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Anonymous No.103254096 >>103254276 >>103254401 >>103254612 >>103254687 >>103254750 >>103255151 >>103255432 >>103255441 >>103255470 >>103256292 >>103256329 >>103257058 >>103257389 >>103261287 >>103269114 >>103275636
I love goth girls, but Shiori sucks
Can we get a better goth girl in the next generation of EN, or at least alt adjacent?
Anonymous No.103254128 >>103254158 >>103257926 >>103268600 >>103280445
her model and voice are sex. i just wish she wouldn't do some things
Anonymous No.103254132
pls one that is not a whore
Anonymous No.103254158 >>103254754 >>103256587
>>103254128
I like her model, but her voice and personality suck
Anonymous No.103254188
I miss emo Moomers
Anonymous No.103254276
>>103254096 (OP)
She is all over the place, and she basically has become a lewd shitposter instead of sticking with the goth aesthetic
Anonymous No.103254398 >>103254432 >>103254521
It's kind of funny, we've had a goth aesthetic every gen
>Gen 1
Mori had the aesthetic
>Gen 2
Fauna/Mumei had the personality
>Gen 3
Shiori has the aesthetic
>Gen 4
Cecilia has the personality. She could very easily turn into a goth doll
So it seems like we're due for another goth model but they're probably going to give it to a bimbo
Anonymous No.103254401
>>103254096 (OP)
rrrats, it is in the works
Anonymous No.103254432 >>103254473
>>103254398
Advent technically has 2 because Nerissa is goth adjacent. Every Gen should have at least 2 because it is cool
Anonymous No.103254473 >>103259592
>>103254432
Nerissa is like dark academia goth
Anonymous No.103254521 >>103254632 >>103256509 >>103257605 >>103268904 >>103268989
>>103254398
I think Justice was missing the dark, cool factor in their gen, even in Myth, a lot of them have mysterious/dark backstories and stuff.
Anonymous No.103254612
>>103254096 (OP)
pls replace shiori with someone better
Anonymous No.103254632 >>103254668
>>103254521
Yeah Myth made you want to explore this weird Hololive company and see what was going on. ERB is supposed to be their leader and she's just...missing. Raora seems nice but I never see her (timezones) so for me Justice is just Gigi and Cecilia and while they're a lot of fun they're only two people.
The only way those two could whimsy it up is to put little Gigi and Cecilia cards around the Cover Corp website where they're doing random chores or beating bad guys but I doubt Cover wants to do something like that. The whimsy needs to escape
Anonymous No.103254668 >>103254700
>>103254632
It is interesting if at least one character is mysterious, and has a darkness about them. I liked Mumei's lore a lot, she was basically crazy because she embodied all of civilization and a watcher, that kind of thing is cool
Anonymous No.103254687 >>103254725
>>103254096 (OP)
sucks Jurard? yes
Anonymous No.103254700
>>103254668
And I like that Nerissa makes people go insane with her voice, she is like a Touhou Project character
Anonymous No.103254725
>>103254687
Sucks Jurard's fat Dino cock
Anonymous No.103254750
>>103254096 (OP)
Slutori Whorevella
Anonymous No.103254754 >>103254798 >>103256587
>>103254158
This. Shiori gets my personal "#1 carried by the model" award.
Anonymous No.103254798 >>103256587
>>103254754
Also "#1 carried by her generation and Hololive"
Anonymous No.103255151 >>103255182 >>103255401 >>103255687 >>103257016 >>103259512
>>103254096 (OP)
Was Natsumi Moe as obnoxious and unlikable as Shiori Novella?
Anonymous No.103255182
>>103255151
yes
Anonymous No.103255392 >>103255594
Right, got an amazing model, I'd even say her voice matches well too, but my god she simply can't vibe well with any of the other girls.

She say and acts like a freak but has no follow up if anyone actually tries to uncomfortably play along. Though I do think she is a good girl and cares about her co-workers and fans and will be there and do what she can but man it hard to look past the awkwardness.

Probably best to pair her with Ollie, Gigi since they can handle the off-colour jokes better, but keep her away from Cecilia, or Bae, they were totally uncomfortable trying to change the topics
Anonymous No.103255401
>>103255151
Shiori Novella is Natsumi Moe
Anonymous No.103255413
Words literally cannot describe how hard Shiori's model carries her. HOLY FUCK.
Anonymous No.103255429 >>103255447
Any new Phase yab?
Anonymous No.103255432
>>103254096 (OP)
cute sioli fangs
Anonymous No.103255441
>>103254096 (OP)
>Shiori sucks
Yeah me.
Anonymous No.103255447 >>103255588 >>103255617
>>103255429
Just the typical Shiori bashing since it's easy
Anonymous No.103255470
>>103254096 (OP)
emo>>>>>>>>>goth
Anonymous No.103255588 >>103255633 >>103255650 >>103255691 >>103255700 >>103255739 >>103256131 >>103256522
>>103255447
Shiori threads are unironic (You) and screenshot farms for failed "le ebin /vt/ screenshots" pages and discord circle jerks
Every single bait her about her since her debut is literally the same 5 posts worded slightly different until the thread either hits bump limit or gets drowned in the catalog by some new indie drama.
This also applies to Biboo vs Gura threads, Saba threads and Nimi threads.
They're all SEA retards with a twitter screenshot page hoping to get someone to post something they can frame as a fan sperging out to go "why are (Fanbase Name) like this?" and maybe bait some vtweeters into replying and looking more stupid.
Replying in any way that isn't calling OP a faggot is unironically supporting low effort content farms.
Anonymous No.103255594 >>103255691
>>103255392
I can't get past the voice, I can't listen to a minute of it without it giving me head pains
Anonymous No.103255617 >>103255691 >>103255838
>>103255447
Shiori is very unlikable, the bare minimum that a Vtuber needs to be is likable.
Anonymous No.103255633
>>103255588
This post is being farmed for content on Twitter? Which account?
Anonymous No.103255650 >>103255691
>>103255588
never seen saba and nimi haters dislike someone as much as shiori is disliked
Anonymous No.103255687
>>103255151
Just look at her twitch archive, it's full of homos collab
Anonymous No.103255691 >>103255732 >>103255738 >>103255988
>>103255588
>literally the same 5 posts worded slightly different
>>103255594
>>103255617
>>103255650
2 more and (You) finish proving the point kek
Anonymous No.103255700 >>103255761
>>103255588
Remind me of the time when I saw Shiori and Advent cuckposts on the boomer site, checked the poster's profile and he was a brown flip. I still remember the posts he replied to so I can share his face here for le funni.
Anonymous No.103255732 >>103255757
>>103255691
shiori is gross and unlikable, i wish that being subscribed to hololive mems wouldn't come with the baggage of getting her suggested constantly
Anonymous No.103255738
>>103255691
stop quoting me, cuckfag!
Anonymous No.103255739
>>103255588
>you HAVE TO like Shiori because people I don't like screenshot posts about Shiori being disliked
Bizarre logic.
Anonymous No.103255757 >>103255793
>>103255732
You're doing great! Just one more and you'll have gone full circle for the 3rd time this thread!
Anonymous No.103255761 >>103256196
>>103255700
share his Twitter acct
Anonymous No.103255793
>>103255757
>not allowed to voice discontent about a vtuber, apparently
who do you think you are bro? go white knight somewhere else? kekkaroos
Anonymous No.103255833
they have to employ the s-team to save face for whorevella lol, how pathetic
Anonymous No.103255838 >>103257187
>>103255617
unlikable when interacting with other people, yes, sucks the momentum out of the conversation with left field takes and derailing everything, no malice, just super bad social skills.
She is alright if she just plays alone and has her one sided conversation with chat, those are alright. But that is a bit sad, I do honestly hope she can grow a bit more, her heart is in the right place.
Anonymous No.103255879 >>103256028
I want a goth/goth adjacent vtuber in Cover that is a yandere GFE waifu and not a dude-bro cuck fetishist
Anonymous No.103255988
>>103255691
>everyone who disagrees with me is one samefag
Anonymous No.103256028 >>103256060
>>103255879
ye, shiori is the worst brand of corpo "menhera" that I have seen, ig the reference to the metamorphosis hentai in her debut picture should have been indicative of her being a slut
Anonymous No.103256060
>>103256028
Anonymous No.103256131 >>103256355
>>103255588
Anon please stop noticing things, these threads are totally just angry unicorns and nothing else okay? There's totally nothing else that's been going on since the day she debuted.
Anonymous No.103256196 >>103256264 >>103256646 >>103257080
>>103255761
Not Twitter, it was Facebook. He's probably /here/ and posting in this thread rn. 4chin won't let me post the link.
Anonymous No.103256264
>>103256196
>this is the guy that has been spamming AI slop
kek
Anonymous No.103256292 >>103256404
>>103254096 (OP)
I used to hate Shiori, but now I think she’s okay. I know she and the homos are nothing more than buddies, and I understand clearly why she chose to part ways with the GFE. She’s been trying to be more honest with her audience, some (many) can’t take it, and that’s okay too, but I don’t see a point in lashing out at her anymore.
Anonymous No.103256329 >>103256375
>>103254096 (OP)
i like shiori like i like watching animals at the zoo. i think at some measurable level she is genuinely retarded. like her brain just stopped developing when she was 11 and she escaped into a chris chan type fantasy land in her head to cope with being a retard in a shitty life. it's fascinating.
Anonymous No.103256355 >>103256400 >>103256488 >>103256570 >>103256741
>>103256131
>do not like a single vtuber from hololive = you are an anti
>shut up and consume media, like all girls, be happy, they are cute anime girls (insert BBC joke)
>ash again is not a vengeful song against hololive, be happy, go back to sleep
>graduations with complaints against management are their faults, not the company's
>if you think shiori is horrible, you must hate all of hololive and advent
typical gaslighting on here
Anonymous No.103256375
>>103256329
I don't want a Chris Chan idol...
Anonymous No.103256400
>>103256355
yep, you totally got it
Anonymous No.103256404 >>103256520 >>103256796
>>103256292
>"honest"
lies all of the time
Anonymous No.103256423 >>103256508 >>103256543
SEA man doesn't like Shiori so you HAVE TO LIKE HER NOW.
Anonymous No.103256488
>>103256355
on point
Anonymous No.103256508
>>103256423
Okay...
Anonymous No.103256509
>>103254521
If we're just going strictly off the lore and putting aside how these girls actually act, I think it's fine for Justice to be more lighthearted whereas all the gens before have been more morally ambiguous.

The vibe they seem to be going for is more heroic, though with the layer of silliness in that they suck at being heroes - ERB is too easily manipulated and the others are just too lazy and/or easily distracted. I think this works as an intentional opposition to Advent, who are increasingly being framed as villains.

The latest Justice song they put out (which I didn't actually like very much honestly) has a somewhat darker tone though, possibly implying they're going down a corruption arc where Justice becomes more brutal and unforgiving in their pursuit of Advent, and that's where the edginess would come in.
Anonymous No.103256520
>>103256404
fucking kek
Anonymous No.103256522 >>103256586
>>103255588
kek this post post struck a nerve it seems like
Anonymous No.103256543 >>103256569
>>103256423
Shiori herself is SEA and they still don't like her
Anonymous No.103256569
>>103256543
Truly the low of the low
Anonymous No.103256570
>>103256355
best post i have seen in weeks, holy based
Anonymous No.103256586
>>103256522
Someone even provided proof so they're samefagging again
Anonymous No.103256587
>>103254158
>>103254754
>>103254798
this
Anonymous No.103256646 >>103256767
>>103256196
What is his username?
Anonymous No.103256741
>>103256355
shiori is a gross whore and no love for hololive can change that
Anonymous No.103256767
>>103256646
Wil Fredo
Anonymous No.103256796 >>103257546
>>103256404
She can’t outright say the truth, she’s being subtle. “I can’t be your gf, I don’t want you to think I can, hope homocollabing will make you understand”
Anonymous No.103257016 >>103257042
>>103255151
There was a reason why she became a low 2 view and something like only 180 viewers attended her "retirement" before she joined Holo.
Anonymous No.103257042
>>103257016
yep, people can sense when people are bad or disingenuous
Anonymous No.103257058 >>103257091
>>103254096 (OP)
Oh boi! Another Shiori hate thread!
Anonymous No.103257080
>>103256196
>flip
every single time
Anonymous No.103257091
>>103257058
yep, she sucks!
Anonymous No.103257187
>>103255838
She has been doing content for nearly 9 years, she has been in Holo for a little over 2. I dont think she is going to change at this point.
Anonymous No.103257389
>>103254096 (OP)
Pink would have been a better color for her, or maybe baby blue.
Anonymous No.103257546 >>103257659
>>103256796
Throwing a brick at your audience is hardly subtle. The reason she handled it like that is because she actively avoids confrontation. She just doesnt know how to deal with people that disagree with her, she just fumes and stays quite about it until eventually it build up to a point where she has to find an outlet. She just wants to be a child and let other adults handle her issues while she hides away.
Anonymous No.103257605 >>103257644 >>103268989
>>103254521
they are missing blue member.
Anonymous No.103257644
>>103257605
Kronii is part of them
Anonymous No.103257659 >>103257884
>>103257546
people like consistency and the personality marketed in her debut is much different from what she promised to be
Anonymous No.103257884 >>103258065 >>103258230
>>103257659
That was more of a fault on her part. She tried to play into a character rather than just be more natural and she just couldnt keep it up. I dont see her as having enough forethought to do a bait and switch. Most complaints I have seen from people early on was that they didnt like her voice, her mannerisms with her crude jokes, or the way she made some collabs feel awkward. She definitely has an audience that find her appealing so she is doing something right.
Anonymous No.103257926 >>103258093 >>103258296
>>103254128
I don't know why people are saying her model is sexy, it looks goofy as hell with that weird half-color hair.
Anonymous No.103258065 >>103259651
>>103257884
>She definitely has an audience that find her appealing
I suppose she does. But I'll remind you that even before the drama her generals were filled with hatewatchers. Which is a questionable audience.
Anonymous No.103258093
>>103257926
You are gay and everyone knows it
Anonymous No.103258230 >>103259545
>>103257884
How much of the audience would be there without the Advent label, though?
Anonymous No.103258296 >>103258381
>>103257926
Her model looks bad in 3D, very snake-y. Honestly, they should have marketed her as a snake girl or something since she ate the "fruit of knowledge" in her lore. Her character makes no sense to me, she lives in a castle? She eats memories and archives history?
Anonymous No.103258381 >>103258427
>>103258296
Her personality and character seem half-baked, you should be able to describe a well-concieved Vtuber in one sentence buy you can't with her because there is so much needless window dressing
Anonymous No.103258400 >>103258409 >>103258895 >>103259686
Shiori sit on my face
Anonymous No.103258409 >>103258478
>>103258400
It would crush your skull
Anonymous No.103258427
>>103258381
*but, sorry someone is blowing up my phone and I got distracted
Anonymous No.103258478 >>103258519
>>103258409
ok and ?
Anonymous No.103258519 >>103258928
>>103258478
Just wanted to let you know beforehand
Anonymous No.103258895 >>103258974
>>103258400
Is sexual appeal her only appeal?
Anonymous No.103258928
>>103258519
Thanks anon :)
Anonymous No.103258974 >>103259005
>>103258895
no_
Anonymous No.103259005
>>103258974
What is it? Yapping about random things?
Anonymous No.103259512 >>103259877 >>103259898 >>103270204
>>103255151
arguably worse
Anonymous No.103259545
>>103258230
According to an early reply, if it wasnt for Hololive she wouldnt have an audience at all.
Anonymous No.103259592
>>103254473
lol
Lmao
Anonymous No.103259651 >>103259743
>>103258065
Hear yes, but out side of here she has a dedicated following. She has a sizeable female audience too with plenty of people cosplaying her. Her waiting room chat is the most active out of all the other Holomembers.
Anonymous No.103259686
>>103258400
Let shass smother you as she sharts in your mouth
Anonymous No.103259743 >>103259881
>>103259651
Do those female fans actually like her, or just her design and aesthetic?
Anonymous No.103259877 >>103261738
>>103259512
ahh the good old ntr shit
Anonymous No.103259881 >>103259904
>>103259743
They actually livepost on twitter so I'd say they actually like her.
Anonymous No.103259898
>>103259512
Some things never change.
Anonymous No.103259904 >>103264333
>>103259881
Example?
Anonymous No.103261287 >>103261769 >>103265998
>>103254096 (OP)
is there anyone else who comes close to being carried by her model? it feels like 99% of people who know shiori only know her for her model and nothing else
Anonymous No.103261738
>>103259877
it wasnt good
Anonymous No.103261755 >>103262721
Anonymous No.103261769
>>103261287
She barely had anyone cheer for her during FES, most people dont even know who she is
Anonymous No.103262721 >>103264278
>>103261755
This makes sense because Shiori is the one with the fetish. Imagine if the homos are just victims as well as she switches between them and tells each one that he is her "only one".
Anonymous No.103264278
>>103262721
Disgusting
Anonymous No.103264333
>>103259904
>hours later guy is not able to provide evidence of girls liveposting and cosplaying as shiori
Anonymous No.103265998
>>103261287
shiori will not be remembered fondly when she eventually graduates
Anonymous No.103268600
>>103254128
>voice are sex
Her voice is the worst thing about her though? I guess there really is a lid for every kettle
Anonymous No.103268688
Everything about her is the worst. Probably the most hated chuba
Anonymous No.103268818
https://files.catbox.moe/ikfuvy.mp4
Anonymous No.103268904
>>103254521
FOR JUSTICE! *Kicks your balls*
Anonymous No.103268989
>>103254521
>>103257605
They need a blue bird woman.
Anonymous No.103269114 >>103274144
>>103254096 (OP)
There’s nothing goth about her and her voice sucks . Yume fat chink got blessed with one of the best models
Anonymous No.103270204 >>103270338 >>103274910
>>103259512
>it's a cuck or get cucked world out there
Words of wisdom.

Also, if you watched that Genshin video, it was clearly tongue in cheek.
Anonymous No.103270338 >>103271595
>>103270204
https://web.archive.org/web/20230331013039/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMDJpeRfX8k
everyone brings it up but never posts it
Anonymous No.103271595 >>103276737
>>103270338
Her humor sucks
Anonymous No.103274144
>>103269114
There really is nothing goth about her
Anonymous No.103274910 >>103276737
>>103270204
See, you and I know it's tongue and cheek, but why delete it then? Considering it is a joke video, there should be no reason for her to erase it in the first place. If anything, it just makes it look worse since it looks as if she's actually hiding NTR.
Anonymous No.103275636 >>103279567
>>103254096 (OP)
she's a fucking normie. No matter how hard she tries to hide it it's fucking obvious.
Anonymous No.103276737
>>103271595
Always has
>>103274910
For some reason it was still up for a while after she joined Holo. Something prompted her to hide it.
Anonymous No.103279567
>>103275636
all of them are
Anonymous No.103280445
>>103254128
>voice
yeah no thanks squeaky door hinge ass