Thread 103255288

Did anyone actually lose their vtubing career after bf/husband reveal? Nimi is still growing after all despite the backlash

Have anyone heard of Nyannears lately?

>>103255288 (OP)
>Nimi
>Pippa
Anon...

>>103255288 (OP)
Any vtuber who reacted positively to this news probably also has a bf and want to shift the culture.

>>103255469
Nerissa...
Mint...

>Woman has woman moment
>Retards spend the next couple of months going "LOOK IT DIDNT MATTER"
>Year later they're gone and numbers are in the toilet
There I saved everyone the same fucking discussion

>>103255380
>Sub growth went from a thousand almost everyday to a thousand every 5-6 days after dropping a nuclear bomb on the 22nd
Its effects are slowly setting in

>>103255540
isn't Nyanners still making a living out of vtubing?

>>103255540
happened to mori, happened to kronii, happened to shiori, history repeats itself and women never learn

>>103255567
no

>Mega GFE grifters
Actually nuked their careers
>Nyanners (actually spammed her BF on-stream)
Crashed with big CCV losses, but it coincided with leaving vshojo + streaming far less, so muddies the water
>cuckconnect members
No effect since phasecucks love bf reveals and NTRplay
>Nimi
No immediate "crash" but momentum slowed - could just be her honeymoon period (no pun intended) ending. Needs more time to verify a significant fall-off.

>>103255652
>subs tank instantly
>”could just be (something other than the major yab), idk”
lol

>>103255652
>cuckconnect members
They just stonewall yabs and I think indies could also pull this move off if they had someone to wrangle them. I think most career crashes are self-inflicted by trying to explain things on twitter

>>103255380
any stats on views? that is more telling given the prevalnce of dead subs on youtube

>>103255971
If you had a case you'd actually be posting about CCV (and you know this)

>>103255540
>>10325559
None of that matters, because they've officially won the game of woman life.

>>103255288 (OP)
>After
They've always had one, anon. The only ones who ever lost or would lose it are:
>GFE Whores
>Grifters
>Liars like Rushia
Otherwise you only lose the weird portion of your following and still maintain livable income.
>>103255469
Or they're not weird lonely faggots like (You) people that need an 18+ woman to be single and 0 male contact in her life.
>>103255652
All chubba's momentums slow especially unless they're corpo which is the only reason "momentum" even exists as a vtuber because brand generally has much more power but also leads to A LOT of dead accounts on youtube.

>>103255288 (OP)
There hasn't even been any backlash aside from /vt/
>erm you're not allowed to get married because I declared you GFE

>Giving money to a woman who gets dicked on the daily by an another man
Cuck behaviour

no because women can get away with literally anything, society will always baby them
the will have the cake handed to them while men have to struggle with everything

Nimi will be a family-friendly streamer that mothers and fathers can watch together with their children. She's always been normie-adjascent, and was considered the most seiso in Holo. Even if you don't find her laugh-out-loud entertaining, she makes for relaxing and pleasant background noise.

>>103256446
It's so sad that some people purchase 3D pornography.

>>103256456
if she brings her kid on stream I'll anti her
every kid deserves privacy and not being surrounded by pedophiles

>>103256456
Vtubers are never going to be considered family friendly.

>>103256456
>streamer that mothers and fathers can watch together with their children
This is not a thing that exists.

>>103255417
>>103255567
Yeah, she left vshojo and made more money in a few months than she did in all her time with them. Still streams a few times a week, usually to around 2k-3k viewers.

>>103256510
>>103256539
CookieSwirlC

>>103256571
That's not a high bar. Anything is bigger than 0.

Nimi's voice is very nice and soft.
Not many vtubers have a voice like hers.
Pillowdear lacks Nimi's "elegance"
Does anyone have any recs?

>>103256705
yeah and lol fuck off. Ex Holofans should stick with your own mess

>>103256539
>This is not a thing that exists.
Not yet.
Nimi will create it.
She will "give birth" to a new market, a new meta.
After all, she is Mother Nature.

>>103256354
What are you doing on this website?

>>103255288 (OP)
As we seen with Kronii, when unicorns leave its like one big collapse, its very slow and gradual until there is a clear downward trend.

>>103255652
Phase is overall really small, for as much they get talked about here, most of them are mid 3 views.

>>103256705
I dont want you freaks watching my oshi. her beautiful voice is only for me

>>103256763
Anon her new fanbase is slowly being filled hy NTR fags, what family friendly?

>>103256539
Northernlion if you’re just talking in general, he always bring his kid on from time to time and it’s very cute

>>103255288 (OP)
>Did anyone actually lose their vtubing career after bf/husband reveal?
Some GFE chuubas whose entire brand is "teehee I'm a lonely virgin, please buy my wedding ring merch" maybe. Other than that, no.

I wouldn't know I don't follow whores

>>103256173
>Dead subs now subscribe up
Has this argument ever been NOT beyond retarded? She’s clearly still going up, cry me a river.

>>103255540
>Zero examples
In a year you will be still crying like a cuck?

>>103258979
tourist-chama, everyone already knows the examples
but I'll be nice and spoon feed you since you're a baby and tell you to look up Yuko Yurei since it's the funniest one

>>103256539
>This is not a thing that exists.

>>103259125
wholesome mommy hags this is what true vtubing looks like

>>103256705
Fauna?

>>103255971
Keep in mind Nimi gained a lot of subs from twitter activists and the "own the incels" crowd.
But her sub growth still slowed down a lot, quite some people left.

What will be really telling is her merch. The kind of people that would leave were actual fans who would bother flying to concerts for her or buying her merch.
The "fans" she GAINED from this lore drop will not stay for long and certainly not buy her future merch.

>>103256539
I've watched Marine clips several times with my 11 year old cousin. She's a big fan of vtubers now (not Marine, but still)

>>103256705
Nene Amano

>>103257148
I tried watching him, dude is just boring

>>103259668
I admire Nimi's ability to replicate his vibe so well

>>103259618
wouldn't her CCV and VoD count take a hit? I doubt twitter freaks are there watching live or VoDs
Her CK had 10k CCV which we can say is the benchmark for simplicity sake. If she can get 10k again next week, and the weeks after, then we can say she did not crash.
I don't numberfag her VoDs but saw a screen shot showing some consistent numbers there too

>>103259668
Watch librarian cuts on youtube not the stream. millenial reference humour tho
>>103259711
Leave nimi alone incel ur giving her the ick, her bf is gunna kick ur ass

>>103259618
Her fans are as loyal as ever, going by the number of viewers.
Twitter virtue signalers do not watch streams.
She's still gaining new subscribers through this anti-campaign.
Her growth has always been slow but consistent, even in Hololive.
She's telling others not to get involved, and she can handle it herself.
Another future collab with Saba will return her sub rate as it boosted it before.

>>103255598
Mori did learn though

>>103256705
stick to your whores holocuck

Post spacha numbers, that's the only thing that matters.

>>103256539
Let the man have his dream. It may not be accurate, but the idealism is endearing. Its a world I would actually like to live in.

>>103255288 (OP)
Rushia counts imo as a loss but you cant really 'lose' once you get big enough

>>103255469
>unicorns ACTUALLY THINK the culture was ever based in their retarded delusions

>>103261414
The whole thing was based on idol culture until normalfaggots like you invaded. If you want to watch someone else's girl and call her your oshi and give her your money and time then go ahead and be a cuck..
Everyone else understood the deal before you came in and shitted everything up.

>>103261560
Idol culture was trash, anyway.

>>103261560
>>103261414
Parallel culture clash.
Vtubing was never purely based on idols but Hololive is based in the principle of pseudo idol principle of fans first. If you want to share a dream with your fans then they have to come before any personal love life.
On the other hand the /trash/ board grew this dreamless simp loser culture that worshipped e-whores from twitch and crawled into the board uninvited.

>>103259627
correction might be needed for watching too many brainrot chubbas

>>103261781
Nah, idol culture has always been what made vtubing worthwhile in the first place. If you don't have someone to wrangle them then they're just the same as any other female streamer. There's no magic.

>>103258945
>clearly going up
that is ur faggot homobeggar cuck vision i am afraid.

>>103262006
You having delusions a streamer is your girlfriend isn't magic.

>>103261414
>tourist fag ACTUALLY THINK it was never based in the culture
KWAB

>>103260793
In her defense, she lost her career because she's a fucking psychopath and not in the sexy way, not because people found out she's married (In fact, it wasn't even confirmed until after the fact)

>>103262055
So the unicorns are absolutely spending money, right?

>>103262038
You don't have a clue about how idol culture works. Why don't you go back to your glorified twitch whores and leave the rest of us who do in peace.

>>103262038
nta.
Disney cast members staying in character vs someone just dressing up as a Disney character.
Now change it to vtubers. You are retarded to think there isn't a difference.

>>103262129
Don't I? Unicorns are all forever alone losers, that have more money than personal life or fulfillment. So they get sold the "experience" of having a girlfriend. It's the same as host clubs, OnlyFans, boy bands etc. etc. Social interaction is just a commodity under capitalism.

As soon as money stops, so does the idol culture it funds.

>>103262100
Unironically yes tourist faggot, you HAVE TO ASK? that is why you are retarded.

>>103262228
Then what's with all the "I never give money to women" posts in Nimi threads?

>>103262182
Yeah, but the difference in this case is more like anons going to disneyland and expecting the cast members to stay in character, and then going to a fan meetup and yelling at anybody in a goofy costume for not being in character.

>>103262250
You tell me, why are you making them?

>>103262283
That's a bold accusation, I just clown on unicorns in those. If I decide to post, anyway.

>>103262250
Just more self incrimination about how the people "upset" with Nimi were never paying customers to begin with and are instead just virtue signalling.

>>103256173
she started botting a couple days ago

>>103262282
Vtubers isn't a fan meetup faggot. If you want go watch normalfags streamer, feel free. Just don't put on an anime avatar and call yourself "vtuber".

>>103256173
No, not really. Everything's in roughly the same ballpark as before. (100-200k depending on the stream)

>>103262300
So you admit to falseflagging, there you go. Just look in a mirror to find these "unicorns".

>>103255522
This and Sondo.

>>103262382
Yes it is, anon.
"Vtubers" isn't a monolithic entity. It just means you have an avatar instead of a face cam.
You're running into a pizza hut and throwing a tantrum because they don't have sushi.

>>103262442
No, I don't falseflag, I openly shit on unicorns.

Are you doing a "no true unicorn" right now? Are posters upset about a vtuber having a significant other, saying it's not true idol culture, calling others cucks, are not real unicorns, because they also brag about not donating anything?

>>103262419
if anything this just makes me think vtubers in general aren't actually as popular as they seem to be in terms of sub count and when you're unicorn friendly you get dedicated fans that bot your sub count stealthily because they're numberfags

>>103263069
This one I wouldn't doubt, too. Especially with how blatant botting has been this year.

>>103261560
oh look, a unicuck trying to invert history
must be a day that ends in -y

>>103256571
>2k-3k
Didn't she used to be a 5 view? Lmao

>>103255522
It's true

>>103262530
Who is this semen demon?

>>103263588
Let's think, where did vtubing originate from? Couldn't have been a country that has a dominant idol culture. No, you're right it all started with twitch whore entertainers with boyfriends. Fucking nigger.

>>103264930
not even hololive was an idol corp until several years in

>>103256922
He's a cuck and needs to project this immensely

>>103266065
People do not have to put up with your lies anymore, liar.

>>103266800
go back to your cuck garden

>>103267161
You're the cuck, watching other men's girlfriends.

>>103256446
Pippa is cuck, we know

>>103266065
And it remains a pointless gimmick outside of a couple special events

>>103256456
No such family exists faggot, even me as a massive weeb I'd be dead first before exposing my children to the degenerate hobby which are vtubers.

You only really need unicorns early on. When a girl is sub4 view she can get destroyed by bf/husband yab. Nimi has escaped planet unicorn orbit.

The problem is, she, like all vtubers, used to pander to it. And yes, not admitting you have a bf/husband while small is pandering to unicorns I will not explain its lying by omission.

>>103264930
you faggots complaining about her "leading you on" failed to understand one of the first lesson of idol culture, even entertainers in general.
They are trying to sell you on a lie, a persona, kayfabe and you are buying into that to make yourself happy and enjoy.
but if youre not a brain dead retarded, you understand its just to entertain and dont buy so deeply as be mentally crippled when the presented world isnt actually how it seems.
this isnt some japanese idol only fucking concept, wrestling culture has been around for longer and anyone a fan of wrestling understand that the shits fake but they dont care, they are there to watch muscle men slam eachother, just like how vtuber fans are there to watch anime girls play games or talk

>>103255522
>Nerissa
probably too dumb to imagine second and third-order effects, give her a break

>>103255464
>PHASE BOARD
>HAHAAHA NAPKEKS get fucked
>don't talk about that one catbox with Pippa screaming and the other voice though or CAMELOT331
>We're gonna continue to disrespect Nimi and her fans but we still need to guys to tell her to collab with Pippa please
>JUST JOIN PHASE NIMI WE LOVE KEKING
>we need you ;_;
it's all so tiring...

>>103255380
ERB beating her soon

>>103279048
Since when does Pippa stream on Twitch?

>>103279048
holy shit saltybet is still going?

>>103256354
Hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, Crystal Cafe is two blocks down

>>103255288 (OP)
Unicorns deserve death

>>103256450
This just means men will always be on top. Power is built through conquering adversity. Women don't face any so they will never be able to handle competing against the best of men

>>103256450
>>103285508
i like how /vt/ will have anons contradict themselves because theyre on the board thats gossip board, the most woman thing ever.
also whose fault is it anyway for women not competing against men? men.
and women compete against eachother and its way worse emotionally since women are way more spiteful.

>>103256450
retardation. women can just as easily be ruined, it just usually takes different forms. women usually win in societal conflicts vs men nowadays, but women will hold grudges you never knew existed, and will happily destroy each other.

you can even see it in as recent of an example with shylily organizing the complete takedown of sinder. destroyed over what was ostensibly some fairly normal women shit, but sinder didn't have anything to really defend herself with, with how overwhelmingly she got destroyed. straight mafia-style character and career assassination and lily psyop'd everyone into thinking she was the worst person in the world.

you don't get that kind of masterclass in social warfare with guys anymore

>>103284834
>Crystal Cafe
Damn. Haven't heard that mentioned in a long fucking time lol

>>103255380
Is the growth a round up number? Is this normal in vtube sphere?
Usually most growth comes in curve.

>>103256958
Fucking this dude
/vt/ acts lie they're the next mega stars of the vtubing world when i've literally never seen them outside of /here/ and the occasional ligger collab.

>>103255288 (OP)
the only ones criticizing the vtubers for having a partner, are people who are too retarded to understand that vtubers aren't owned to be commanded by the critics, and that they can choose whoever they wish to partner with just like any other people. I mean why do you even devote your life to your idols to the point where it becomes a religion of pious martyrdom? When in reality they probably don't even know who you are. I'm sure they would much rather prefer people to be fans than to be absolute retards that think they own their idols.

>>103286272
Sinder deserved it for being duplicitous.

>>103286510
It's almost like gfe has been pushed by vtubers for years now. You should stop being retarded and let them do what they want.

>>103286510
I'm sure that they prefer fans who give them lots of money which just so happens to be the unicorn GFE fags. Hence why so many of them actively try to hide it.

They can, at any time they wish, get rid of their unicorns by just being honest, yet they don't.

>>103286673
but arent they doing so by being honest now?
the any time honesty is literally now

>>103286510
I'm not into GFE or I speak for others but I cannot catch up with the boundary she keeps changing.

>>103286798
Revealing that you were in fact a literal grifter doesn't absolve from the consequences that you were being a grifter. Yes, being honest now is always good, but that is not enough to atone to the potentially tens of thousands of people who gave to you under false pretenses and impressions.

>>103264930
>>103266800
What the fuck are you talking about?, before Hololive even existed we had VTubers and pseudo-VTubers (the ones that are just a png with one or two expressions) collabing with males and Hololive used to collab a lot with Niji males

>>103287531
refer to kayfabe and suspension of disbelief as concepts.
by watching an entertainer you agree to the terms of the performance, via suspension if disbelief.
you shouldnt just consume content mindlessly and then get upset when the contents arent what you wanted, you can complain but that doesnt make the artist a grifter because you couldnt mentally handle the concepts they brought up.
do you need a trigger warning for love lives?
are you that retarded that you cant handle the concept of actors having a social life beyond the act they play?
an act informed in part by that social life?
complain as you wish but your consuming media in a stupid way if you cant handle this shit but put yourself in a position for it to happen.

>>103255288 (OP)
>Nimi is still growing
With the Leddit liberal audience who constantly congratulate her on this and tell her how brave & empowered she is

>>103287882
they congratulate her because its a normal fucking thing to do when someone gets married dumbass, it has nothing to do with owning the incels, people wouldnt even care about you faggots if you werent so fucking loud and annoying

>>103287912
Nimi isn't getting married though, so who are we congratulating?

>>103287699
>Sora was not an idol because she did sponsored streams with males a couple times
you niggers are a disgrace. nobody cared back then. it's when SEAnigs came into the fold that this became a problem

>>103288076
Nigga they did a ton of collabs early on

>>103256450
Good, women deserve to have nice things handed to them.

>>103286510
>the only ones criticizing the vtubers for having a partner..
are men who aren't feminized cucks. If you watch/support a woman who gets dicked down by someone else you are not a man.

>>103287912
Normally in any society, we break the news about getting marry to friends and relatives, we aren't none of those. She's already established the boundary.
I'm not angry or against her having private life being a vtuber but it seems to me that she wants an army of orbiters.

>>103288334
Only SEA thinks like this. Western Christian men know the importance of supporting a family structure. Women that remain single inevitably become loose. All the GFE ones get dicked down on the regular and lie about it. Only weak men choose to delude themselves in such a pathetic women-worshipping way. Don't be a cuck, go out and get a woman yourself like a real man is meant to do and just watch vtubers for the entertainment they provide. Don't believe their lies: All GFE streamers are essentially Rushia.

>>103285913
>men will suffer shorter, more painful, more miserable, and more destitute lives
>women most affected

>>103288670
>just go get a girlfriend
Gee anon, why didn't I think of that?

>>103288670
We dont rape women to prove ourselves in the west Rajesh

>>103288748
I don't know why you didn't, but fostering a culture where weak men get preyed upon by lying GFE 'idols' is not going to help.

In the end, idol culture was indeed at the foundation of vtubing. But this was in Japan, home of the weak salaryman. Now, as the West often does, your concept has been taken and improved upon. And if you choose to stay weak then I am sure there are multiple definitely and surely single and chaste for life vtubers for you to share with your other unicorns.

>>103288857
You have a very one-dimensional view of the loneliness epidemic

>polygamy is based and encouraged by delusionals
>monogamy is cringe and frowned upon by delusionals
And then people have the audacity wonder why the world is becoming more sociopathic. Then again this industry as a whole would shame others into sinking their money for the sake of showing that they're a true fan. Kinda like how gacha waifu games are utilized as a way to absorb money from lonely fags so they continue to be in a perpetual work <-> sink money cycle.
It's sad, very sad, but kinda funny.

>>103288334
>If you watch/support a woman who gets dicked down by someone else you are not a man.
What kind of third world logic is this?, do you the dudes who had like 13 kids and watched Marilyn Monroe movies are not men? lmao, stay in the mosque Pabrowo

>>103289501
>do you the
do you think the*

>>103288354
pretty much how i feel about it, honestly. it's just an awkward thing to reveal, and i don't get why, when she was already fairly adamant in general about keeping her vtuber life and private life separate in her most well known incarnation (barring inconsequential shit about cats and food, and such).

like, grats nimi, i guess, but you're fucking with a boundary that you've been insistent and consistent about keeping, even when isolating this info from any other conversations about being public with relationships in vtubing. it's just a weird, nimi specific thing when you look at the full context.

nyanners avg ccv

>>103255288 (OP)
>Did anyone actually lose their vtubing career after bf/husband reveal? Nimi is still growing after all despite the backlash

That shit only happens in japan. The rest of the world isn't like that.

>>103256354
uh oh kekling melty

>>103292102
Vei avg ccv

public corpo bros will insinuate that growth isnt enough you need growth of your growth

>>103292102
>>103292188
>>103292274
Now do nimi

>>103296869
Not enough time had passed, come back in a few more months.

>>103274645
If she doesn't care about merch sells from now on that's true.

>>103255288 (OP)
bf reveal and husband reveal are not the same.
People are way more forgiving of the latter.

>>103255545
just wait for monthly stats instead, this month looks like it's be the same as june

it's very clear many on this board were never around for the /jp/ threads
we should've gatekept harder

>>103255652
>>103256571
Nyanners was inconsistent with streaming for years. I suspect that tanked her numbers more than anything else.

I couldn't imagine white person seething about this, I perceive you as a bugmen swarm.

>>103297870
Nyanners abandoning her old fanbase had more to do with it. Does she prefer this one? Probably.

>>103292102
>>103292274
While it may affect them, most VTubers have suffered a decline since 2022. Plus other factors like the leaving and the slander from VShitshow. But became much more profitable after doing so.

>>103296907
>Not enough time had passed, come back in a few more months.
The hate campaign, from a marriage announcement, won't last a few months.
Her fans remain loyal, but the antis may have slowed new subscribers. They can pat themselves on the back. But it won't last as it didn't before.

>>103275895
That's the reason it sucks when the character you like goes: "I'm actually fake lololol", while staying in character.
I'm fine with faunalike (gfe-light?) vtubers being married/having a family as long as they keep it separate from the charater.
I would have prefered the person behind nimi going to stream on twitch as herself during the first few years of setting up a family (the ones where you cannot reasonably separate your job from your family life).
I understand this is skizoid/impractical, but the distinction between reality and fiction is very important for certain vtubers. I'm kinda glad to be in the minority tho, but her streams are not for me now

>>103262055
Been around since the K.Ai days.
It was never based in that culture.
(You) retards just took Yagoo's obvious one-off "AKB48" shitpost seriously, in spite of the mountain of evidence that was already staring you in the face AT THE TIME in terms of stream content.

>>103297365
I don't know if you've noticed, but Holo made an active effort to circumvent you and prevent you from gatekeeping. You never had a chance.

>>103304602
There was never anything to gatekeep. Literally anyone can put on the chuuba mask, so you'll get every kind of content eventually.

>>103255288 (OP)
>still growing
lmao

Her sub growth not only went to absolute shit, her VODs also suffered. She used to easily get 100K+ VODs on 2-3 hours streams, now she needs to play a game for 5+ hours to get 100K+, and also needs to be a popular game

>>103304899
Why doesn't she ask her husband for help?

I am pretty sure saplings already knew they were cucks since Fauna debutted. Or they stayed in denial until the announcement.
Also who the fuck actually even watches Fauna? Bitch was one of the most boring Holo ENs. Gotta be mentally stunted to waste time watching that one.

>>103297870
That and her company had a notorious reputation as being just Twitch whores in a vtuber skinsuit

>>103255288 (OP)
Nimi has currently 9k viewers. Explain how is that suppose to be a sinking career.

Everyone whinging over the potential consequences for Nimi is thinking way too short term.
Wait until the end of the year, then pull out the graphs. The earliest effect she'll really see is a change in memberships by the third week in August, which we can't see