Proven innocent. Whoreca organized the whole slander campaign against her. /vt/ loses again.

based thread

Really don't care, not going to watch twitch whores.

>>103256962 (OP)
I don't care about her, but it would be fun to see all that shit pulled against Lily, she's an insufferable cunt

she wasn't proven innocent, the whore clan was just proven also guilty. she's still a petty bitch who stabs her friends in the back, but now we know her friends stab her and each other in the backs as well.

>>103256962 (OP)
have you finally lost your mind yet

>>103256962 (OP)
She was never accused of a crime. She's just a bitch and a whore.

>>103256962 (OP)
did anyone on this board actually watch this whore in the first place

devour each other, you whores

Fooian should arrange a death match between the Whorca and the discount Silberwhale.

>>103256962 (OP)
Her only crime was being a massive slut

>>103256962 (OP)
>So mindbroken hems even schizoing a return.
At this point you are a lolcow, better than th niji dancing jobless monkeys of 2 years ago.

>>103257647
I don't know how her simps fail to understand this.

>>103257807
Hot

>>103256962 (OP)
no one knew her until drama, /vt/ had their fun and no longer care, you lost.

>>103257807
I will pay to watch this

>>103256962 (OP)
We all know the orca is a whore

>>103257224
Did anyone drop a Google doc or vid about it?

>>103256962 (OP)
Outside of the fact she's a grifting whore with a bf that is also a cheater on top. Literally the lowest of the low.

>>103256962 (OP)
inocent? Yeah man i doubt that. Pretty sure if she returns and makes some shit flinging she will catch echos back. That Whorehound can go ahed and kill herself together with her husband/boyfrined/boytoy or whatever

>>103256962 (OP)
Eat shit, sinder, you're an amateur.

>>103257224
You just described women in general.

>>103256962 (OP)
Is she finally gonna start releasing porn?

>>103256962 (OP)
How? Did she release a Google doc or something?

The pussy has evil demonic juju needs a priest immediately

>>103256962 (OP)
Literally no traction on twitter so no don’t think so

>>103256962 (OP)
>/vt/ loses again
but I always supported sinder, wtf are you talking about
she didn't do it
if she did, it wasn't so bad
if it was, they deserved it

she's a better streamer than the others so whatever she does, me the viewer should side with her

Theyre all horrible and deserve each other.

>>103268882
https://x.com/wiccanistVT/status/1953147955411861637
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16CIOIC3ocyoq8J5sO5D8iq_8JlU_Wd5T6oypW0OJhY0/edit?tab=t.0
the tl;dr is
screenshots are doctored and out of order
nano wasn't coerced, she considered the offer from red
timelines don't add up from bao and lily
shylily is suspected of releasing all the docs around the same time in order to force sinder out of gamersupps
the evidence is her past actions including the ironmouse donation fiasco and basically admitting to keylogging her boyfriend's computer to find out if he was cheating

Who? buy an ad.

>>103256962 (OP)
We still have simps after she was exposed for having a secret bf apparently

>>103269636
Who are they?

>>103271397
So basically, nothing defending sinder and just more deflecting blame.
And all of this is cooked up by dramafags who either worship sinder and/or orbit kirsche

>>103272645
man I can't believe it, the woman that literally sells porn isn't a virgin?
I shouldn't have to explain this to you, but idol rules don't apply to pornstars, it's a different genre

only reason i would care is if she went full whore and posted irl nudes of her fat tits

Fucking what sad to witness what the indie vtubing scene has devolved into

>>103257807
HAPPY VORE DAY

>>103257130
>>103269251
>>103269636
i just want more drama
personally i want more shit to come out on nano

>>103256962 (OP)
She was never innocent. Its just everyone involved was also being shitheads.
>Sinder
is at least a serial cheater (which is unforgivable at least in my eyes) and did not do the basic diligence to see what both her manager and and boyfriend was doing with her brand and image
>Red
conspired to fuck over several of his GF's friends and potentially ruin her business relationships
>Nano
was a dumb bitch who failed to uphold the NDAs she signed, leaked privileged information of her clients to others, willingly fucked over her clients on the behalf of others, and conspired to throw another under the bus to avoid the blame hers. You always have the ability to just say no. If nano had had an ounce of a backbone and simply said "No" there wouldn't have been a doc to begin with
>Lily
gleefully conspired with nano to remove her greatest competitor. Abused a friend she knew was mentally unstable to generate a narrative. Would repeatedly lie on stream and in other space about the information she was privy to and the timeline it was on.
>Vampire Peaches, Nocleur, Spite and other assorted personalities from her past as ASMR and her earlier Vtuber career
All of those jumped on a bandwagon to tear down a woman who they largely had nothing to do with for several years or had loose claim at best.
>Bao
Bao is the one person i don't really hold at fault if only due to her alleged medical conditions at the time made her so mentally unstable that I personally judge her unfit to stand trial as she was seemingly pushed to take part in this organized attack by her friends
So yeah they're all retarded and i hope whore clan falls apart

>>103279857
I also hope that sinder, bao and lily all resort to fleshtubing on porn sites to make ends meet.

>>103279857
we truly live in a society

>>103256962 (OP)
Total mean girls indie clique destruction

>>103256962 (OP)
>sinder herself literally admit and dump all the mistake to RED
>sinder is innocent because this google duckey
holy shit sinderfags really more pathethic than 0.6%+nijisis combined

>>103271397
>gamersupps
So you retards actually buy this shit? It can't be that lucrative, surely.

>>103279857
>Lily
>gleefully conspired with nano to remove her greatest competitor.
never understood how people came to this, lily found out the same time we all did, she only decided to stream her response so it was more personal.
>Spite
I guess the discord messages of sinder actively wanting to keep her down just are not real?
>bao
the fuck did she do but get fucked over, she didn't do a god damn thing to sinder other then get fucked over, how mentally retarded are you?
Google doc is still up, every 'drama tubers' videos are still up, you are just upset you didn't get picked up when sinder fell down.

>>103256962 (OP)
shes better than any of the whore clan. I welcome my queen

>>103284298
>Lily
She quite literally said on stream she knew for weeks ahead of time since nano came to her first and she collaborated with her to convince a very imbalanced Bao to post a document too
>Spite
Those messages were aimed at silvervail not spite retard sinder herself said that
>Bao
I quite literally said I don't hold bao at fault for the fucking disaster since her so called friends took advantage her to write this doc.

>>103286040
Forgot to mention Lily also said she was dodging colabs and get togethers with sinder for a while before hand. She already wanted sinder gone and found nano's behavior as a spineless rat to be the perfect excuse to get rid of the women who was showing her up

Would you guys watch collab between Sinder and Shylily?

>>103286090
only if they were openly hostile to each other with a good bit of sexual tension thrown in.

>the phasemonkey dramatweeters are still trying to push their retarded google doc
sad

>>103256962 (OP)
No bro she needs to stay cancelled so she gets desperate and starts an OL. Trust the plan.

Personally I feel like if Sinder had anything to drop on anyone she would've done it when she threw Red under the bus. The fact nothing has come out now just means either everyone else is clean (I dont believe this) or Sinder didn't get dirt on anyone and had to run with her tail between her legs (The most probable explanation)

>>103257224
Twitchwores getting into vtubing was a mistake. I'm not giving any women any money for anything ever again. You bitches can go work at fucking Starbucks for minimum wage.

>>103284079
I don't buy the drink/mixture, but I think the normal merch is fine.

>>103286825
Docs can't give as many pills to kids anymore so they influence streamers to get kids hooked on something else now

>>103256962 (OP)
Nope, in term of business side it's 90% done.
News of Sinder betrayed her group is already out in the open and that group have bigger influence than her.

>>103279857
>Bao is the one person i don't really hold at fault if only due to her alleged medical conditions at the time made her so mentally unstable that I personally judge her unfit to stand trial as she was seemingly pushed to take part in this organized attack by her friends
Unless it's schizophrenia I can't think of a medical condition that downplays your autonomy.

Personally I hate everyone involved, since they had no issue unleashing all this shit on Sinder. Sinder is a bad person, but if they all had issues with her they should have raised them at the time, instead they held onto that shit then dogpiled. Any kind of moral grandstanding goes out the fucking window when the bad shit is something you ignore because it's a freidn, then highlight because you now dislike the person. At that point it's not about morality, just character assassination.

>>103288151
>but if they all had issues with her they should have raised them at the time,
If she had issues with them she should've handled them one at a time.
She made her bed by fucking over so many people at once. Now she gets to lie in it.

>>103284079
People buy the sippycups with tits printed on them out of FOMO. They also carry other merch, which is pretty smart since they already have the the supply chain and distribution network and few indies want to deal with those things on their own

It's a whore eats whore world out there.

>>103256962 (OP)
Anyone with a brain and a soul knows that Sinder did nothing wrong and whorca is 2x as bad. But that wont matter to the drama channels, or the dozens if not hundreds of smaller chuubas making big money of Gamersuppslop merch. And thats a lot of money, like really a fucking lot. Nothing will change

>>103271397
I'm not a twitter expert, but if the tags are blank does it mean that the tagged person blocked him?

>>103256962 (OP)
>return
where lmao

>>103288420
>or the dozens if not hundreds of smaller chuubas making big money of Gamersuppslop merch
Wait how is this a problem
Sinder goes down for being a bitch, hundreds of other more deserving chuubas get bank?
Sounds like a perfect outcome.

Sinder is the real underdog, I want to see her make a comeback just for that.

>>103289156
unironically.
had all the vtubers not turned on sinder, i would'nt care, but the fact they all decided to take the opportunity to attack her to raise their own goodvtuber points makes me want sinder to come back and put them to shame and send them to the bottom of the hierarchy pyramid.

i dont like sinder, but i hate the vwhores even more.

>>103286040
So there is nothing new in this doc so no one cares?

>>103289208
Yuzu was the only one who didn't jump on Sinder immediately.

>>103271397
But SInder admitted in the apology that Red manipulated Nano and that her actions "could be seen as manipulative".
So it's this random cuck's word against Sinder's.

>>103271397
>releasing all the docs around the same time in order to force sinder out of gamersupps
That's psychotic, but also pretty based and business pilled. I would kind of be proud of my oshi if she did something like that.

>>103271397
>shylily is suspected of releasing all the docs around the same time in order to force sinder out of gamersupps
Oh, so I guess it's confirmed that Sinder got kicked out of being a shareholder of that overrated energy drink company

>>103271397
Yeah considering all those docs dropped at like 1-2 in the morning for the timezones Bao and nano were in yet at like 9 for Germany I'm not surprised

>>103293159
Not really unfortunately.

>>103293395
She still has shares in there?

>>103256962 (OP)
Cuckold cope, does your tiny nub of a dick get hard thinking about her faggot ass boyfriend fucking her?

>vshojo dead
>indies taking a huge blow with sinder and now this
>cover hemorrhaging talents
>nimi kills her career and the holo avengers

Sakana wins again by doing nothing

shylily saying that sinder should gave up her parts of gamersupps as a way to apologize for stupid highschool drama, was fucking weird

>>103294195
I don't know. I don't even know why she sold any.

>>103256962 (OP)
Did anything happen yet?

>>103296713
It's now several months later

/vt/ didnt give a shit

>>103298484
Nobody did, that doc got basically no traction on twitter or outside of it

>>103284079
Kirsche said she made like $160,000 from them.

>>103290669
then yuzu will be the only one that will be spared

>>103298457
I mean in response to this new doc. It seems like no one cares.

>>103284079
You kidding? Every creator I know who had a gamersupps drop made serious bank from it.
Mint said outright that it saved her finances after a rough few months.

>>103300203
Mint has never said that

>>103300519
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b1an4TPIyU&t=3980s

>>103300590
Figured you were going to link to that, and of course you took what she said completely out of context.
She said she kept on forgetting about the GS money, and was going to use other money to put towards her 3D debut & stuff (meaning she had the money), but they messaged her saying "Uh you forgot to claim your money", so she was able to use that GS money instead.

>>103300737
Yeah, she had the money, but it still saved her finances, anon, since her plans are expensive.
I could've been more explicit in saying it helped her funds or whatever instead of potentially letting it get implied as if she'd be homeless without them.

>>103256962 (OP)
Nah, she was a grifting, back-stabbing, whore who hid her boyfriend. The artist that this whole drama was centered around is definitely a massive scammer though

>>103279857
Wait nano had NDAs on her models?

>>103301831
Nano would double the charge for a model if it was to be worked on under an NDA for her not to share info on it or stream her drawing it. There is no fucking way Bao did not pay for it

Slylilly is a talentless whore that had to resort to stealing another Vtuber's accent to be interesting

>The narrative is always "Sinder manipulated Nano" yet no one could elaborate when challenged.
>Slylily dragged her sick friend to destroy the career of her rival, yet Sinder's the evil schemer
>Sinder plagerising was debunked
>Slylily takes Nanoless for herself
The one who maniuplated Nanoless was Shylily herself when it's obvious that she directed and wrote most of the doc after Nano broke confidentiality to talk about her business with Sinder. She then said, "hey! This is bad! She MANIPULATED YOU! We need to EXPOSE HER!

>>103257224
correct, kys OP

>>103257224
>she wasn't proven innocent
She didn't fucking "manipulate" Nanoless. She's a fucking grown adult that can say no to business proposals. You try to prend you're smart and above it all, but people like you always just end up exposing yourselves as the retards you are, you just try hard to hide it.

u guys are saying that sinder is vindicated and it's over for nano and the whole situation is reversed and whatever but it really doesn't feel that way on the wider lig tuber scene. nobody is paying attention to this.

wiccanist... lost??

Gamersupps is for Twitch whores. Any vtuber that shills that junk is not worth watching.

>>103303525
Agreed, that's why I don't watch HoloEN

>>103303132
I mean Sinder admitted to it in her apology.

>>103303298
And Sinder can also just not sell her shares

>>103303473
it doesn't feel that way, but deep down you know its over, you feel the death of the vtuber scene coming, you know something is off, but you can't explain it

>>103303656
>One whore is a bitch and gets called out on it
it doesn't feel that way, but deep down you know its over, you feel the death of the vtuber scene coming, you know something is off, but you can't explain it

>>103303473
Because it's all a nothingburger. Its just repeating what's already known and trying to put a different spin on it.

And it's barely one or two things trying to turn the sinder thing into some massive conspiracy. Which we knew to be at least half true already as literally everyone involved admitted to having started to gather together and paint a full picture of the person she is behind the nice tits.

And i hate to break it to the pp's but the only thing that will help is for her to memory hole the whole thing, come back with a half assed promise to her fans to be better, and just move on. If anything this just hurts that as all it does is bring it back into attention.

>>103256962 (OP)
>Proven innocent.

Even if you wanna somehow argue that her behavior towards other vtubers wasn't actually bad she still cheated on her boyfriend at the end of the day. Not exactly the kind of person you wanna step up to bat for.

>>103303298
Blows my mind that people bought into the "manipulating Nanoless" bullshit. Her google doc literally spells out she was angry at not being offered enough money for exclusivity, for fucks sake.

And good God do people need to grow up about her supposedly "backstabbing her friends".

These are people running a business with a LOT of money involved. Not the best fwends act they put on for the audience.

Next controversy will her not being a real hellhound.

I want to see lily brought so low that she's forced to whore her ugly plain jane ass out for pennies on chaturbate

So is she innocent or what?

>>103310517
From the looks of it on the new doc yes, the accusation was Sinder was manipulating Nanoless into canceling models when she did it out of her own accord along with being able to reject the exclusivity deal. The original docs against Sinder had information either left out or edited out of them. Basically threw Sinder under the bus to spin an accusation.
Only thing Sinder was guilty of was hiding the fact of her manager being her boyfriend which is a big no no in the GFE sphere.
To be honest tho, the damage to Sinder's rep is already done and with drama like this, people have already made up their mind and will ignore anything the other side says. Very sad desu.

>>103304061
That's gonna be fucking difficult considering how nobody with a brain would touch her with 10 foot pole out of fear of getting scammed or backstabbed.

>>103310517
No.
The doc is basically "NUH UH" for 93 pages without any actual evidence, and completely ignoring how Sinder herself admitted to everything.
I don't know why the hell she has so many defenders here. Is it just because of the tits?

>>103312575
lol Sinder didn't admit to anything; she blamed it all on Red. that's why her apology was universally hated.

>>103256962 (OP)
All it proved is they're all crazy

>>103312575
It's between people who love her tits, people with hateboners for Shylily and the others, and people just trying be contrarian.

>>103309866
Your argument is retarded

If we take the idea that "business is just business and therefore anything goes", then what Nano, Lily and the other's did to Sinder is perfectly fine and your argument then falls apart. It's just business and they decided to take down a rival via Google Doc. There's no controversy here then

>>103271397
So, Sinder was a backstabbing whore still and ShyLily decided that backstabbing whores need to be curbed stomped? Sounds pretty reasonable to me.

>>103312137
That's not the primary accusation against Sinder. The primary accusation was she was a traitor to her own friends. That's still true.