Thread 103274320

Kayfabe is Dead Edition

Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Nyan is LIVE! And is checking out spooky stuff. There'll be a game later but untilt hen it's spooking out. Henya is also LIVE! And is yapping. Simple as. There'll probably be a game there later too. Mata is also LIVE! And is yapping. She just got back from Evo and is talking about the trip. She also brought milk. Tori is also LIVE! And unlike the rest of these jokers is already in a game. Peak specifically. Finally Froot is NOT live, but she IS playing APex on NiaMocha's channel! If you want some running and gunning with Froot noises there you go. That's all that's happening at the moment so pick a stream and keep things comfy and civil by ignoring and espcially reporting bait, and being excellent to each other.

Image source: https://x.com/glorpouslink/status/1953942168889962767

/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related /in/dies:
Beri - https://www.twitch.tv/beribug
Tori - https://www.twitch.tv/torioriane
Mint - https://www.youtube.com/@mintfantome
Feebee - https://www.twitch.tv/feebee
Pia - https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo
Momo - https://www.twitch.tv/momo

Related:
/999/ + /総長/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>103264714

Matara spilling all the beans!

I love lewd waifu Mouse

Everything about Vshojo was a mistake

Vei, drop chance and let's go back together

>>103274488
>ghosted for month before
Fuck you Gunrun

EVIL WOMAN

I thought michi was better than this. The upcoming collab is cancer and cunty towards Zen, and it's fucking Peak. Fuck you michi

I think it's cute that they're pretending to be friends just to meangirl Zen in her moment of crisis.

Mouse please add #mouseylust to your twitch bio again.
It would make my year.

>>103274657
*twitter

>>103274532
they pooling up the talents into a group and having a community around it is good in my book

>>103274737
*X

>>103274599
Mental illness she'll never fuck you

>>103274747
Said community resulted in massive drama btw

>>103274651
dont think too hard about it. michi is plugged in 24/7 for the marathon and very likely has no fucking idea what is going on between zen and ari, and just thinks its nice that her friends are helping organize collabs for her

even Grimmi is gonna play heartworm, fuck you mouse for your garbage game selection

>>103268215
shoto is gay for kuro

>>103274657
donate 10k to the idf with that message amd maybe mouse might do it

>'I love streaming'
bs

>>103274651
Just like the last collab, this one was planned before Zen had a meltdown.

Where IS Mouse

>>103274652
No one cares. Positive or negative, everyone moved on.

>>103274999
what does he have that I don't.

The two types of posters in this shitty thread

How long until Mouse replaces Ari with a different leech?

>>103274898
said community also raised 1mil+ for IDF

>>103275059
a penis

>>103275073
half a year to a year

>>103275069
Not accurate. The first one should be some samefag trying to make both Zen and Mouse look evil.

Bao 3D ass shaking tomorrow. Be there or be square.

>>103275009
>Gonna try for 2 streams a week
Lmao

>>103274999
a personality

>>103275147
tabs but thanks for the heads up

>>103275147
If it's not on fansly I don't care.

>>103275073
Put down the bottle zen

>>103274747
When I mean everything, I mean it. Everything Vshojo and Vshojo-related was and is a mistake and has overall been damage to the Vtubing industry and community that cannot be undone

So Mata has said nothing and is scared of the outcome

>>103275006
If I had that much money to donate I would.

>>103275073
ari is a master leech so never unless someone outside her publicly like a video

>>103275171
get fucked momos

>>103275171
>I'll only be streaming 2-3 times a month going forwards...
noted

>>103275059
does your bussy snap?

>>103275195
>all the vtubers
It's just Zen.

>>103275195
You are the one who joined a community where women dominate

>>103275069
Complete reversal in 3 years...

>>103275073
>next leech is a fleshfag
Do you accept the trade?

Mata you were never a consistent streamer stop acting like the frequent vacations and lack of streams are something new

>>103275171
Such a low amount for a streamer and still looks very unlikely that would last more than 2-3 weeks.

>>103275171
Boyfriend reveal coming soon

>>103275221
legitimately Vshojo did fuck up the whole western vtubing industry, but the talents and community formed shouldn't be called a mistake/negative.

>>103275216
it is, actually. well, i think. i don't know. she returns to fansly that day, I assume that's what it is.

Mata spoke about how she had several ideas and they've always been shut down as bad etc and she's now going to together then a go closer to her 2nd anniversary etc. I'm curious to see what these ideas will end up being or just kinda being another I'll make a podcast that won't like actually get made again but I'm optimistic

>>103275315
bbinos already self inserted himself to the concert

>>103275314
kek how the tables have turned

I hope blind Momos see her true colors eventually. Some have already regained their sight thankfully.

So I'm guessing no Puta today

>>103275343
>but the talents and community formed shouldn't be called a mistake/negative
But they are a mistake, they actively make vtubing for the worse, death to Vshojo and everything related to it

>>103275314
lmao that picture was true for so long

>>103275320
She was pretty frequent and one of my top watched before the cons and vacations and oops I'm tired teehee so I will tweet for the next five hours instead of sleeping.

>>103275195
>tfw the Vanoss Crew have been together for over a decade but vtubers can't seem to keep friendships going for more than two years

>>103275314
Karma for all those years of Zenfags acting superior to everyone else

>>103275367
>I'll make a podcast that won't like actually get made again
She has two podcasts.
And one of the ideas was merch that was supposed to be more for con goers, which is kinda funny because I don't know what VShojo was thinking by rejecting an idea that would generate more money.

did matara say anything about the zentuation? of the meltuation? or the secret CEOtuation?

>>103275428
ok now buddy, you're just rage baiting

>>103275367
>I'm so excited to stream again!
>I will be streaming half as much as previously!
>I'm OpTiMiStIc AbOuT hEr StReAmS!!!

>>103275394
She was planning to stream today but we've not heard anything from her yet.

>>103275453
>Ohm
>MiniLadd

>>103275350
Hm, I see the twitter post. That's fucking late for me but I'll try to check it out then. And make a recording.

>>103275465
We're still superior to you

>>103275195
fuck. it supposed to have audio. oh well.

>>103275465
Like when? Seriously you faggots keep saying shit when zenfags barely even posted when she was streaming

>>103275505
anon I don't think anyone is gonna talk about that topic again unless Zen brings it up again

>>103275530
What number bottle are you on now Zen? 7th?

>>103275314
>KILL THEM ALL
Kek Zen is really trying to, including her own self

Well court proceedings can take years so I guess you matafags aren't going to hear from her much since she's afraid of spilling something on accident

>>103275522
maybe plasma day or meetings with lawyers
Because even monke was surprised she wasn't streaming he was gonna raid her

>>103275314
kek how the tables have turned

>>103275508
Nope, Vshojo culture is a cancer to the overall Vtubing space, it's a cancer that needs to be cut out

>>103275572
Finished my fourth Ardbeg while fucking connor in the ass. Gonna send mouse the video shortly

>>103275556
Arifag is just grasping for straws, ignore him.

>>103275616
Brother Mouse and Mata aren't getting responses, we are here for the long run.

>>103275505
get a hobby, jesus christ

>Mata cutting off Zen
It's over.

>>103275453
Well not quite all of them...

>>103275622
I hope she lets us know soon if she will stream or not.

>>103275505
Nothing specific, shes focusing on herself and her experiences before being fired and after becoming indie. if you squint hard enough she implied that she doesnt blame zen for lashing out because everyone is in a hard emotional situation -
-and now shes talking about it directly

>>103275691
No she isn’t

>>103275171
Why though? Isn't she free to do her own thing now?

>Juniper agrees to let one of her streamer acquaintances live in her LA 2bedroom apartment for the summer.
>This chick is a decade older than her, she has to have her shit together.
>This chick absolutely doesn't have her shit together.
>This chick invites her elderly eastern European parents to live in Juniper's 2bedroom apartment.
>Juniper is now here.

>>103275673
what they need do to is hire pinkertons to hunt down the c-suit trio

>>103275691
>I’ll message her in a little bit
??

Everything Mata says feels so fake.

>>103275748
no way this is real kek

>>103275691
she didnt say that anon, stop trying to make a mountain of a mole hill

>>103275748
Who in the fuck is Juniper?

is henya on in-between games or this bitch is still on her intro yap segment for 2 and a half fucking hours
is this normal? i feel like this is normal now

>>103275776
Pinkertons don't hunt down management, they work for management.

>>103275748
this was known already anon, they admitted on stream a few weeks ago

>>103275829
This thread has been infected by liggermen
We can't escape them

>>103275526
>Ohm
Still a massive dramafaggot and backstabber
>MiniLadd
Lost a lot of weight and disappeared

>>103275833
Her streams have dropped off a cliff, Rainhoe is better alternative.

>>103275833
she went to vshojo to learn how to be a stalling and reaction streamer. Remember when she used to play one game in the morning, take a break, and come back to play a second game at night?

>>103275748
If this is true, this is retarded. Even if they came for a week or two, stick them in an airbnb.

>>103275748
Bravo Mata

>>103275829
moth woman

>>103275691
I wish she would cut off that dramasperg but unfortunately not

Jesus, this thread is filled with Dramafags and tourists

>>103275691
Uh oh, someone's coping by making shit up again, I wonder who that is.

>Mata meeting other bugs
Soon

>>103275935
how new?

>>103275748
Her parents are already gone wtf are these just blatant lies?

>>103275833
Games are the most boring part of the stream, for the streamer. How have you not picked that up after watching as much as you have? The ideal sitaution for 99% of streamers is to build an audience that likes you enough to just listen to you talk about whatever or who will watch you watch random videos with light commentary and be entertained. Low effort friendsim.

>>103275962
But Henya never says anything interesting

>>103275932
what this blud waffling about

>>103275961
Nah, they are still on visit.
Not living that's the only lie.

>>103275962
Henya is not a good yapper.

>>103275935
You couldn't tell? Hell, near the end of the last thread someone was asking if people would like Haruka less if she showed up more often in Zen's streams. Fucking Haruka of all people.

>>103275887
Yeah, I summarized it comedically retard-kun

>>103275748
>live in the apartment
Visiting their child isn’t moving in anon

>>103275958
Shut the fuck up, dramacuck, it was never this bad, shitters here at the very least knew what they were talking about

>>103275505
>>103275707 cont
basically 'please be patient with us girls (ex-vshojo), this probably isnt even going to be the last time some of us lash out, every day we learn more information that goes from bad to worse, its going to take a lot of time for things to settle, i was afraid of streaming the past week because I would probably lash out too'

>>103276032
I like her yapping fuck you

>>103275776
They work for companies, not individuals. Yes, they still exist, and yes, they still get hired to fuck with unions.

>>103275829
This guy doesn't watch bug girls

>>103276073
A fucking roach has the most common sense approach to the zentuation

>>103275833
When Henya doesn't have a game planned, she just yaps. Sometimes even when she does have a game planned, she yaps for a couple hours anyway because she talks with chat, it's honestly my favorite part of Henya streams, although her gaming parts are great too

>>103276000
>>103276032
She's building an audience that likes that stuff. Like Snuffy did the same thing, and now most of her streams are watching random 90s and early 00s television. Her commentary got a lot less interesting, but she't more relaxed and streams more often, because it's easier and less stressful than trying to play a game and be funny or intersting at the same time. If you like the streamer, don't you want them to be able to relax? What does it say about you if you demand only high stress, demanding entertainment?

>>103276070
This. We had chill couple of days after the creation of this thread and then catalog dramacucks started squatting itt and ruined eveything.

>>103276073
She's making what Mel did seems like the most sane thing to do these past few weeks.

>>103276142
Brother we're talking about playing video games.

>>103276086
i like her voice, i like when she talks, but she is unable to just sit in front of a greenscreen and just yap for a few hours. she loops the same 50 stories eternally.

Completely unreleated, one of Mata's worst nightmares is having someone record when she was having a private talk with someone else

>>103276122
kek

>>103276073
Finally a reasonable take

>>103276169
Lol no
If the Mel rrats are true then Mel could have straight up committed a crime. Zen's situation is nowhere near as bad.

>>103276032
sou sou sou ne ne yeah yeah yeah sou na no

>>103276122
>one ball and still the most competent vtuber
How does he do it?

>>103276142
To each their own, but I thought one of her better streams was when she was playing that roller skating doggystyle office rage game. She's pretty funny while angry.

>>103276189
Evil woman doesn't want her evil conversations recorded

What happened to Mata's merch?

>>103275935
The crumbling of the past few months was already pushing anons away but the implosion of vshojo was the nail in the coffin for most anons. Doesn't help that Holofags left for tower taking with them some of our posters. All we're left with now is a very few anons who actually watch streams and a lot of tourists and threadshitters using this thread for gossip.

>>103276290
She bought it back from Vshojo, received it in a messy heap, and paid someone to sort it back out so she can add it to her new shop.

Any words from Mata about the undebuted talent or is she still deathly afraid of the NDA?

>>103276290
She was terminated in march and went through another vendor for her more recent stuff.

>>103276279
>She's pretty funny while angry.
this
Henya playing up her rage for a bit is one of the most entertaining parts of her streams.

>>103276169
i mean, given the rrats we know and assuming mel was unaware of what management was doing behind her back, she absolutely had to tidy up affairs at home before she could deal with anything outside.

I didn't realize this until reading the last thread but Ari is the one person I hated seeing in streams because I couldn't stand her voice. I spend more time listening to streams in the background than watching them and she is just unbearably grating. Public break-ups are always a trainwreck, but at least she's not going to be cutting in on people I actually watch anymore.

>>103276239
wait what happened to mellibell

holy hell she forgot to plug merch for an hour straight

Matara got the harshest NDA because she dared to stand up to Apek about Mint and the money.

>>103276290
>Debut Merch
>Takes 6+ months
>Shit quality
>Summer Merch
>Good qual
>Missing items
>Mint never paid
>Bricky
>GREAT QUALITY
>ON TIME( GOT MINE EARLY)
>Gets fired

>>103276412
This

>>103276142
I stopped watching the streamer formerly known as snuffy when she went soft and I will stop watching henya too.

>>103276357
Mata is terrified of everything. Always.

Guy like me, I'm not signing those NDAs

>>103276442
>formerly known as snuffy
What is she known as nowadays?

>>103276494
Snufflepuff

>>103276442
What if snuffy and henya both got hard together? Would you watch that?

>>103276494
sorry,
*streamer formerly known as snuffyowo

You're just not parasocial enough to appreciate the Henya chit-chats, skill issue.

>>103276479
And now she's down to planning to stream 2-3 times a week, momos will be lucky to get a stream weekly

>>103276361
No but that's what I mean. She abandoned VSJ over merch, and yet she still doesn't have merch ready for the next big con?

>>103276383
in the most generous interpretation, vshojo's cofounder/COO/CFO/legal advisor holds the title to melody's former streaming studio in escrow and therefore has access to a significant chunk of her finances.
in the least generous terms, they are cohabiting.

Why doesn't Mouse leech off flesh streamers anymore? I remember a year ago after the Streamer Award she went around with all types of big streamers.

>>103276717
NAGI NO

she needs rest and time to heal guys calm down

>>103276717
>Oof
AAAAAAAAA

Someone make this make sense
>Mei confirms Ari was ghosting her.
>Mei still hangs out with Zen regularly during all this.
>Ari also hangs out with Zen regularly during all this.
>Ari and Mei make up.
Is it just me or does this not make any sense at all? Why would rratmancers here think Zen is the cause of this?

>>103276717
People on that site are not going to like that...

>>103276716
corpo mandated flesh collabs

>>103276717
NAGI YES

>>103276767
You are making shit up

>>103276767
because they want a villian for there drama, when its just 3 dumb fucking woman who cant communicate

>>103276717
basebasedbasedbasedbased

>>103276826
>nothing in the can
ironic

>>103276767
ari dived back into mei dms after the zenpost dropped, because ari being in one active feud is a coincidence but simultaneously being in multiple active feuds from the same friendgroup is a pattern.

i miss the moose

My spider sense is tingling
Mouse soon

>>103276890
Yeah, even Froot came back to streaming. With Vshojo imploding and now with this Zen mess, it's getting harder to believe we'll ever see her stream again.

>>103276911
On a scale of Blizzard soon to Mouse soon to normal person soon, how long is that?

>>103276768
shes on the third movie already

>>103276996
idk
1 hour?

>>103276641
She didn't abandon, she confirmed earlier and it's been confirmed previously that merch was 100% not the reason she was "fired"

>>103276890
sorry bro i ran over the moose last week

>>103276991
at the very least stream solo and and not appear on others streams

Ari took advantage of the kindness of a mentally unstable vtuber and dropped her as soon as she showed signs of... Mental illness. This is why leechga is the GOAT because she's still friends with Zen.

>>103276821
Yea women are pretty insecure and really assume stuff

>>103277152
Because Geega can communicate like an adult.

>>103276611
But I am parasocial enough to want to breed her.

Does anyone know what kind of underwear Beri wears

Mouse spotted on w/place map

>>103277479
This is necessary info because she wears a skirt if someone gets an upskirt it needs to be accurate

>>103276032
only when compared to xvsj

>>103276379
Yeah and we don't have to hear that annoying TTS bullshit anymore.

I never told anyone this but in a Geega stream a few months ago, you could subtly hear her fart. I don't think anyone in chat noticed or they did but didn't say anything. I know she farted because as soon as I heard it, her eyes darted to her other monitor to where her chat is.

>>103277152
no, Ari took advantage of a popular vtuber desperate to make connections and real friends, and just used her to climb the ladder and then dumped her
Ari is a fucking snake

>>103277615
Real and true

Wait is it true that Mouse has once again baited us with a Henya collab that was turned into a group collab with Ari?

>>103277633
'fraid so

>>103277457
Found her

So is Mouse streaming today or not

I hope Mouse does bring back her nsfw tag and the nsfw dakis and maybe some new ones.

>>103277619
No, Ari tried to become friends with someone who can't make real connections or friends because they've set a weird boundary around themselves suspiciously. So she ends up making genuine connections with people that person was around that probably feel the same way and that person got jealous and upset and through a temper tantrum like a baby.

>>103277865
holy run on sentence batman

>>103276746
>>103276768
>>103277854
Did you niggas just noticed that?
Shes been watching the movies for weeks now

>>103277959
So no argument? Went the grammar police route instead of having any substance to say back?

>>103277457
>>103277769
theres a big one in havana cuba for some reason

>>103278028
there is no argument for love

Zentreya

>>103278110
AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE

>>103277780
Probably not

Henya is not real

>>103278157
have we seen her anus?

List of evil /xvsj/ women
>Mel
>Vei
>Zen
>Mata
>Geega

>>103278028
why are you so mad?

>>103277865
i have read this post about 6 times and I still genuinely cannot comprehend the argument it is trying to make
I believe it is
>ari tried to be friends with zen
>zen has boundaries and doesnt make friends
>ari became friends with henya and mouse,
>they were also trying to be friends with zen but also failed because of zen's boundaries
>ari and mouse and henya bonded over their inability to form a close relationship with zen, and formed their own friendship
>zen became jealous of this friendship

Can I ask a genuine question? Zentreya is just kayfabe right? Like you believe the character itself is a woman, Latino, lives in Texas etc. But you don't actually believe the person behind it is, correct?

>>103278110
Check DMs

>>103278250
that is normal with every vtuber anon

>>103278264
FUCKING KEK LOSER BITCH

>>103278211
Is there one of these cosplayers that does?

>>103278250
don't really care about the person behind the mask
I watch zen for zen, not for the man or woman behind the camera

>>103278238
hes mad that noone is taking him seriously

>>103278055
Cute

>>103278157
Mouse and Mouse related cosplayers are so hot.

Geega and Vei should mud wrestle

>>103278250
I generally dont believe in "the person behind it" at all.

>>103278110
makes my pp feel funny

>>103278386
how can you guys enter
Its giving me an error 500

>>103278419
This is the type of collab content that the people want.

I still think that VShojo rejecting Mata's idea of more merch in cons to be really fucking goofy, like, did they dislike getting more money?

>>103278419
Geega and Vei should graduate together because they're both a plague on vtubing

HAHA

>>103278468
..... to mud wrestle

>>103278018
>>103275935

>>103278466
But they did do that. They sold an entire set of standees and some other merch only at AX in 2024.

Henya is too ESL to get the jokes in The Big Lebowski

>>103278238
I think the argument is that Zen refusing to be real and using a TTS due to boundaries hampers her ability to actually connect and make friends, so when Ari met Mouse and clicked with her, it wasn't a hard choice when made to pick between the two

>>103278157
She could let us know

Breaking news: Numi's mic is gigafucked

>>103278654
>Big Lebowski
>jokes
Genuinely might be the most overrated "comedy" of the 90s.

>>103275171
Isn'tt this what she has always done

>>103278740
Yeah...well...thats just like....your opinion man.

No puta today shes sick

List of evil /xvsj/ women
>Amalee
>Froot
>Geega
>Haruka
>Henya
>Hestia
>Hime
>Hotaru
>Kson
>Kuro
>Mata
>Mel
>Michi
>Mouse
>Nagi
>Nazuna
>Nyan
>Peke
>Silver
>Vei
>Zen

>>103277860
Me too

no geeg today
no geeg tomorrow

>>103278927
she's having sex with me, her secret gtarp friend

Nyan is the tallest women

>>103278948
I posted this

>>103278809
Yeah but she always overprimised, so 2-3 times will likely also be more than reality

>>103278927
she was supposed to be here all week

>>103279002
>zen that tall
uhhhhh

>>103279002
zen is taller this?

>>103279028
She lied, people died.

>>103278849
>no monster gen or mint
why do you hate unity?

Mei really is joining a talent agency

/\bMei\b/i
/\bMeicha\b/i

>>103279222
who?

>>103279296
so true hes a who

>>103278927
She's literally on GTARP right now and been on there for hours offline.

>>103279222
source?

>>103279359
She follows and was followed by "gg talent".

>>103279002
Mata 180 IRL and in character

>>103279396
Is that Geega's new VTuber agency?

>>103278264
I would shoot four ropes on this face

PUTA SOONMORROW

>>103279222
Who is Mei? Never heard of him.

>>103279127
>Nyan is the tallest !Momen!

>>103279545
aw man

>>103279396
Oh Rainhoe, and Juniper is in that one.

>>103279633
but more importantly, forsen

Can't find any more vtubers
Just Mouse 3 times

Ari is just a fat mudshark

I want Ari's fat mudsharts right on my face

I miss her

>>103280272
post the tape

geega should do serious asmr for next year's April fool's joke haha

Geega should do a handcam show her feet for next year's April Fools haha

Melody is retweeting

>>103280489
I too wanna see her size 5 feet

geega should do a nopixel graduation stream next years april fools haha

Choco mint

geega should do a horror game collab with froggy, ari, and chibidoki for next year's April fool's joke haha

1. Fuck Zen for suicide traumatizing. No one deserves to go through that. Her audience doesn't deserve that. She owes a big fat apology for doing that. If anyone does that irl to me I'm cutting them off for good, and I think I should do the same with watching her.
2. If the person Zen was policing Ari about was Mouse, and they haven't hung out for a few weeks already, it means shit was bad between Mouse and Zen way earlier than we assumed way before Zen's subathon.

>>103279002
Zen is a women, chud

geega should do a collab with my penis for next year's April fool's joke haha

Zen IS a woman
Zen IS a woman

>>103280701
She would probably just be non verbal the entire stream

>>103280767
it would be funny seeing how overstimulated she'd be

Mei and Ari are on Michi modcast

>>103280933
Uh, weren't they supposed to avoid each other? Or was it someone else?

>>103280999
They are friends again.

>>103280999
No, I'm supposed to avoid them and I've been very successful at it.
Life is good.

>>103280767
ten minutes of silence followed by "its goryo get in the truck"

>>103280816
Slutty elfs are always getting overstimulated.

>>103278862
Mouse hates us

How long do you think Zen will be gone for?

>>103281384
bout tree fiddy

I was at a bar drowning my problems in alcohol. Did Nyan mention if the collab is still happening tomorrow?

Escape the Cycle

>>103281501
It's about a 90% chance of a vei ditch

>>103281501
depends
is soda involved in the collab somehow? because if not i have some bad news

>>103281506
STOP
MAKING
WAVES
ALREADY

>>103281501
Yes, but she said she had to check up with Vei first on the time

>>103274950
do you think grimmi has worms in her grolon (grimmi colon), I would slurp them up like noodles

>>103281851
that's disgusting

>>103280999
They were, Ari realized that having two people casually ghosted by her and with issues with her would alert some flags about her. So, she made up with Mei while showing unflattering pics about "Zen manipulating her", for extra forgiveness and rift apart Mei and Zen.

>>103280762
>zen is not a woman
>everyone who stopped collabing with zen gets cancelled for being transphobic
total zen victory

>>103282122
zen isn't trans, he's just a tex-mex fag.

>>103281786
Vei has done collabs with nyan more than once without soda involved

>>103281501
I think physical therapy is more frequent and intensive than Vei realized so it probably won’t happen because of that

>>103282286
wtf happened to Vei?

PINK RAT DOKO

>>103282423
She has a herniated disk

>>103282444
how?

>>103282461
fat

>>103282461
Bad posture according to her. Doesn’t make sense to me because I probably have just as bad posture and I’ve never come close to a herniated disk

>>103282444
>herniated disk
It's "disc" btw.

>>103282442
>>103278822

>>103282442
>@everyone im so sorry guys i am feeling a little under the weather. i will be back tomorrow for a fun Saturday stream!

>>103282535
Okay

>>103282535
Thanks doc

>>103282495
I think that’s BS. I think the real reason is more embarrassing.

Womp womp

i'm going to simp for geega

i'm going to pimp for geega

Not trying to start a rrat or anything since i actually like henya.
But i feel like she is being a little cold about everything, like she only says she's sad but never comes close to sounding like shes about to cry.
And i get it can be many thing, it might be her japanese side not wanting to cause a fuss.
I just find it a little odd.

>>103282804
nah bro, what the ACTUAL FUCK???

>>103282423
>>103282444
This is what happened to Vei

>>103282849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4hC1DLuSbI

>>103282849
Some people don't like pitybaiting

>>103282849
Henya should fix this by implying suicide.

>>103282545
>get home from eleven hour shift
>no mouse to soothe me for the two hours I have before I go to bed for my next eleven hour shift
now what...

I'M GOING TO END IT ALL THIS SKIRT IS TOO FUCKING RUFFLEY

>>103282896
I guess thats what it is.
Everyone (except maybe kson) have all had a ,and for lack of a better word,pity party about it.
It's just funny how Henya has been the most mature about this i feel.

>>103282894
>>103282922
shhh adults are having a discussion, maybe try looking for a job?

>>103278657
Be so for fucking real man, it was the clout and nothing more. Ari had already upgraded from Haruka to Zen and then from Zen to Mouse. At least Haruka and Zen were friends though, Mouse had fuckall to do with Ari before those two introduced her to the group. And a year from now, Mouse wont even remember who Ari was.

>>103282849
Basically every day she's gone on about how she wants her stream to be happy, she deals with this shit offline

>103282974
ew don't reply to me

Oh no.

Buckle up boys another Zen discord post

OH FUCK

If I don't see it, I pretend it doesn't exist

Pretty decent handling of it all things considered.

>>103283005
>ew
the women are online today.
pack it up boys, the most emotional non cognitive replies will come out today.
Wold rather have skitzos honestly.
At least they are only pretending to be retarded.

At least she admists she was retarded

>>103277865
Oh yeah what a coincidence she just happened to make a connection with the biggest fucking vtuber on Twitch. Not even you believe that bullshit.

calm down

>>103283075
>>103283056
Ah ok it's not that bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Voa01r3UOE

>>103283056
>>103283075
SHE'S BEING APOLOGETIC AND RESPECTFUL QUICK ARI UNLEASH ANOTHER CRYING STREAM

>>103283056
>>103283075
There, Zen is not evil. Good fucking night.

>I wish her only good health and a good future
Kek why would she embellish the lie so much?

>>103283056
>>103283075
Could have been worse

>>103283056
>>103283075
I'm gonna be real this makes it look like shes trying to sweep it under the rug hard

>>103283056
>>103283075
There, Zen is evil. Good fucking night.

>bringing up a private communication .
Is zen Indian ?

>>103283149
none of this should've been public in the first place, any reconciliation has to be private

>>103283131
It's just Zen doing proper pr to reign in her community. Ari didn't deserve to be shit on as much as she was by the spergs.

>>103283075
>oops i was drinking
so 0 change in behavior going forward. i hope the next generation of zen plusses enjoy the eventual zenhera

>>103283075
>>103283056
She needs to go to some AA meetings or therapy
Wasnt she trying to quit drinking

>>103283149
Nah. The only thing Zen could have done better imo is an open pledge to try and do better and maybe get help. And also maybe mention going on a break to recover from all of this as well. But outside of that it's pretty much all that was needed.

>>103283131
She literally said that on the first post, nigger

>>103283149
If the rrats are true that Zen was mad at Ari for collabing with Mouse then Zen almost certainly wants to sweep this thing under the rug so that it doesn't escalate.
Starting public drama with Ari is one thing, but starting public drama with Mouse would have been a disaster.

Are Henya and Zen still friends?

>>103283233
Probably not

>>103283075
>>103283056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfjtpp90lu8

Why are you all so fucking stupid "teehee Henya deals with it off stream she is just real mature" no its a fucking business and business are very shaky right now, and Mouse handpicked her finally, she'd be retarded to back or even care about Zen. They are not friends and neither is Mouse, she is just a big fucking bag, and Mouse knows that too.

>>103283229
Yeah because you can never ever imply Mousey can do anything wrong, ever.

>>103283256
zen... go to bed

So Ari good now?

>>103283149
>>103283229
To be fair with Zen
She only brought up that Ari and her weren't friends. Never demonized her or anyone else, it was purely a "we aren't friends, don't harass, support both if you want". Going on a drunk mess was the issue that should have been more touched imo, but Ari brought something to light that won't be forgotten.

Unless zen is gay there was no way mouse was going to get closer then collabs with them.
How is the Henya x zen meter looking like?

Zen chose to do this after Ari was spotted interacting with Heavenly just more textbook manipulation.

>>103283286
if the moose likes her, i like her

>>103283197
Well I hope the old generation has an exit plan for when Mouse dumps them.

>>103283256
Jesus dude.
speak english.

>>103283292
You're naive if you don't understand the way big content creators weaponize their communities.

>>103283286
No zen just caved because Ari was slowly getting the favor of mouse defense force.

>>103283195
She deserves way worse. But karma will get her in the end, that sort of careless ladder climbing behavior will fuck her up when that ladder breaks.

>>103283256
Kinda true with less sperging and less ESL.
These people aren't really like HUGE friends as people usually say they are, some are, but not all.

>>103283292
Zen only started having issues with Ari because of Ari collabing with someone Zen hates.
While there is a good chance the person Zen hates is Mouse, we don't know exactly why she hates Mouse. It could be for a reason that makes Zen look bad.

dramaretards so starved for content, trying to drum this up more than what it is

So in other words, Ari won

>>103283292
yeah the discord post is one thing but the stream that followed is another thing anon
and that shit made it way worst and made her community paint Ari in a bad picture

>>103283345
Like how Ari was doing too?

Ari isn't "good" she's just in the new circle.
Now that vshojo is no more everyone is splintering and have no reason to force collabs with each other.
zen has her friends anyway. she likes to play big fish in little pond

>>103283355
From the looks of it, the whole drama started because Zen actually wants to be good friends with everyone she collabs with

>>103283357
But none of those issues were presented by Zen, in fact said person that Zen hates hasn't been brought up by anyone. If Zen hates Mouse and was the main point of their argument, that was something Ari brought up, not Zen.

Tomorrow Mochi x Henya x Ari x Mouse collab

>>103283284
This but unironically

>>103283383
The mouse won. Ari is just a fucking leech.

>>103283286
If you hadn't noticed it was only Zen that spoke against her while the rest stuck by her. Zen was retarded to publicly throw a fit even if her scuffle was valid. Especially now when a lot of dramafags have their eyes on ex vshojo talents.

>>103283398
Ari was responding to abuse sent her way by Geckos.

>>103283380
>Zen burns bridges with Ari
>Zen has also likely burned bridges with Mouse and Henya
How is this not a big deal for the thread? It's a major rift in the main friend group now

>>103283404
It's a bit of the point Zen is missing, not because they are friends on screen they are friends on the background. Zen probably thinks this way, and doesn't try to really reach out in private, and obviously the people that do, ARE in fact more friends between them than with Zen.

>>103283075
>>103283056
If she starts stream tomorrow with her usual antics
I'm actually gonna be mad
She needs to go on her week break ASAP

>>103283357
Maybe something to do with Mouse always avoiding Zen, then all of sudden getting all of Zen's friends to hang out with her more and more? Without even bothering to include Zen? If you don't see anything weird about how Mouse treats Zen, then you are clueless.

>>103283417
When is that? Hopefully Zen won't be online to see it

>>103283349
>careless ladder climbing behavior will fuck her up
Only if there's malice involved. This is the norm in vtubing community especially among indies. Even Mouse has done the same and it's just part of doing business.

>>103283459
Maybe Zen tried the same with Mouse and she was like nah bro

>>103283445
It's a big rift till Mouse gets tired of them and gets back to the fleshies like always. Then everyone can go their own way and we can stop pretending these people are friends.

>>103283409
>that was something Ari brought up
Which Zen hasn't denied.
The only arguable thing here is who Zen hates so much. Mouse is the most likely candidate but it's possible it's someone else.

How did Zen softblocking Mouse and Ari morph into Mouse being the one that unfollowed her? Mouse never unfollows anyone on Twitter even people she had good reason to like Silver.

Zenfags still trying to attack Mouse to deflect. Give it up, your oshi apologized. Accept the L and move on.

>>103283466
Read what you are replaying to again
and think around what time Henya and Michi are online

Not that i care about zen, since the only male streamer i like is moonmoon.
But they really did throw them under the bus on this one. pretty much equating them to how gun or who ever singled out mouse.
Shits fucked for zen. She can only confide in the clout vultures who will take advantage of them in this desperate state.
Enjoy the stream toasties, or what ever his their fan name is.

>>103283417
Should be fine if Zen has no alcohol within reach

>>103283401
>zen has her friends anyway
what little mouse left her at least

>>103283396
It is a questionable thing, because you see a person who is depressed and you likely assume that the other is at fault, because you with a mindset that they are the victims, when in reality both mindsets can exist. You look back to the stream now, and you see a guilty person realizing she fucked up and ended up alone.

>>103283524
it's Zen's fault

>>103283417
At this point she's just trying to fuck with her. Very immature for that what, 40 something year old woman?

>>103283495
I'm just glad the mouse won't have to involve herself with zen anymore. Always disliked the tts speak.

So basically Zen is /out/

>>103283486
But all of her friends specifically are yea bro. Very cool Mouse not bitchy at all.

Geega I forgive you for not streaming today

>>103283445
>Mouse and Henya
Agree, might be because of the zen to ari sperg ratio is one sided. its like the bottom 15% of posters who actually care about them and not just shit posting .

>>103283056
>Was drinking Monday night when she made the post
>Got absolutely hammered on Tuesday on stream
>Made a post late yesterday that she was spending her time away from streaming Wednesday and Thursday drinking and thinking
>Majority of the Zenhera meltdowns in the past involved alcohol as well. Its why every gecko panics when Zen does a late night stream where she's been clearly already drinking.
Jesus Christ Zen, you have an obvious problem and you need to finally get some help...

Here's my ultimate final rrat to settle things. I don't think Zen hates Mouse. I think Zen's afraid of her.
>Zen has abandonment issues about people leaving her behind, to the point where she views a friend of hers hanging out with someone else over her as something concerning
>Most friends Zen makes tend to go on to become friends with Mouse as well. Heavenly, Mei, Ari. This leads to Zen feeling resentment towards Mouse for stealing her friends
>Zen voices this resentment. Gets rightfully told that's an insane way of viewing things which only builds further resentment
>At some point it boils over
>Zen becomes wary of Mouse and avoids her because of not wanting to lose more friends to her
>Henya and Mouse collabing more frequently leads to Zen not wanting to stay close to Henya because she's just afraid she's going to get burned again
>Ari skipping out on a kidnapping only to later join a collab with Mouse extends this to Ari
>Ari is not okay with this and things get heated and leads to the two splitting
>Zen is now terrified of being left alone and drinks a shitload
>Discord announcement -> stream -> days off
There you have it.

>>103283495
That would a retarded assumption, and regardless of it, Twitter follows don't really matter that much. Of course when Zen does it in that way, it does basically mean something, but Mouse still following her (until she got blocked) could mean nothing if behind the scenes there's an actual fight.
For example, Mouse followed Nux for a good while on Twitch and only unfollowed him live because she saw the notification.

>>103283483
With all the drama shylily and sinder caused amogst eachother and others I really do think its just a matter of time before Ari bites more that she can chew, theres always a bigger bitch.

>>103283575
I mean literary this week after the Zen drunk stream we got a Geega and Ama collab with Mouse
Is it really her? If it was mouse I figure at least Geega would know

>>103283564
You guys are gonna run this mouse defense till she pisses off every former vshojo member wont you?

Jesus at this point just give me /mouse/ and get me away from all this drama

>>103283459
I still think Mouse hates the TTS.

>>103283582
Zen/Ari is getting the main focus because that's what is public right now.
Zen's broken relationship with Mouse and Henya is a much bigger deal for the xvsj sphere but no one wants to make any of that mess public. Yet.

>>103283056
>>103283075
Not only zentreya is a pos but a coward.

>>103283056
She knows Ari could destroy her if she released DM's

>>103283636
The Arispergs are 100% Mousefags and would take it there.

>>103283636
Mouse has literally been involved most of the drama we've had this year you retard.
That isn't gonna solve anything.

>>103283495
Asmon

>>103283632
I don't have anything against zen, I just didn't the like tts speak in collabs.

>>103283619
Geega is smart, I think shes trying to figure out what is going on. Still, she would never publicly call out Mouse, at most she would just quietly bow out from this whole thing. She doesnt really need this anyway and shes smart enough to know Mouse aint gonna care about her forever. Shes just playing the game.

>>103283662
check dm

>>103283694
FUCKING KEK LOSER BITCH

>>103283649
Well, in fairness, if things are true.
Like, does it change if Mouse and Zen don't really collab anymore? No, because they barely did because of what Zen likely referred to.
Henya is probably the one that would be more relevant but then again, she hasn't been seen for a while now, people would eventually forget.

>>103283529
I honestly have never seen mouse interact with the E grade streamers zen has on.
mouse is long over that vr chat ecosystem.
If zen was smart (or /here/) they would use their clout to become friends with the top vrchat streamers, so she can control the narrative for up and coming streamers that crawl out of that place.

>>103283677
Weak

>>103283698
It could soon evolve to Zen drifting away from some of the other girls who are more closer to Mouse than her

This doesn't really matter. What matter is that did Ari successfully get Zen viewers to come back?

>>103283636
Sure, and take the Arifags with you since you just love that two faced leech so much.

newthread
>>103283726
>>103283726
>>103283726

I still find it funny that all this drama is Just Zen and Ari shit
Somehow Mouse and Henya is part of the main narrative lol

>>103283712
I'm honestly baffled when you fags say this. Why would I enjoy tts when voice is such a core component of vtubing?

>>103283723
We are talking present, not your doomed futured

>>103283698
I feel like Henya is exactly like mint.
They are both introverts who struggle to say no to things so they just end up doing shit.

>>103283744
It literally started because Zen was mad at Ari for frequently collabing with someone
Mouse is one of the few who matches up here

>>103283744
Yeah keep acting like Mouse is just a totally naive clueless girl. She's a fucking grown ass woman, maybe the oldest in vshojo.

>>103283744
Need to look for new wood now that this bridge is burnt.

>>103283744
mousespergs wanted their daily shitpost so they would include any problem in world in relation to mouse

>>103283781
And they both cower out and hide behind that le cutesy idol shit too.

>>103283744
Mouse is the the main girl and her unfollowing was a shock

>>103283800
then what did she do please tell me
give me a reason

>>103283286
Always was.

>>103283445
Why? It's the opposite, that is not a problem, but an information to celebrate, the tts tranny won't bother my oshi ever again.

>>103283401
>zen has her friends
Like Sigrid? She'd be better off alone.

>>103283969
Your oshi is either Henya or Mouse but let me tell you buddy you really have that Ari mentality on point.

>>103283832
>le
Hag and change your pad.

>>103283056
>>103283075
this doesnt solve anything

>>103283595
So like Nazuna EN version.

>>103277865
what the fuck is this retarded schizo babble
>arifag wrote it
ah, yeah, just like I thought

>>103278250
hi gay ass doxfaggot schizo, you still didnt kill yourself, that's bad

So Michi was in fact talking about Mata (the ambitious one)

>>103280707
She owes you a fat log of shit on your face, schizo. Rope yourself.

>>103282147
>he
kill yourself retarded doxfaggot

>>103283155
>>103283656
>>103283662
seethe harder arifaggot

>>103283056
>>103283075
>Please report any malicious people
So uhh... about that... how can I report Ari?

>>103282940
catch up on shows or porn

>>103283524
>since the only male streamer i like
Kill yourself doxfaggot schizo

>>103283565
Nope, Ari is /out/. And thank God for that.

>>103283286
>>103283383
No, she was always a backstabbing cunt (besides being an unashamed leech) and this fact didn't change. She didn't win shit. She lost, just like her schizo white knight who's still squatting in this thread.

>>103283056
>>103283075
Zen won. Ari lost. Things are as they should be.

>>103280707
you never watched her, sperg, go suck up to a leech who will be eventually google dockey'd lmao

>>103284648
I know who you are contrarian schizo

>>103284897
>t. contrarian schizo
you just couldn't help it but out yourself again KEK
keep seething tho, its fun to watch

>>103283662
Ari doesn't have shit on her lmao. Zen, on the other hand, could destroy her EASILY, but decided that she's better than that and too good of a person to do that to her former friend, even though that cunt backstabbed her.

>>103284965
Parrot schizo at least you’re waiting at the end of every thread instead of shutting new ones I’ll give that to tou

>>103285107
yep, yep, keep seething, parrot schizo

>>103285107
>shutting
>tou
TIL contrarian parrot schizo is an illiterate ESL. And I'm not surprised at all.

>>103285218
You will always give me a (you) <3 parrot

>>103283702
Mouse selectively picks and chooses zencollabers as they pass the 4view barrier. Haruka, geega, and then ari and froggy.

>>103285253
How can I not, if it makes you mad, parrot kun. I love to make you mad.

>>103285107
>>103285253
>parrot this parrot that
>says the parrot
nta but holy smokes my siderinos
how can someone not have any self-awareness is beyond me