r8 the debuts

>>103274757 (OP)
GG >> CC = ERB imo
Deducting point from CC cause that kart racing bit went for too long + was a bit too "japanese humor" for my taste, and Biboo took up almost as much screen time as CC did despite being it her debut
Deducting points from ERB cause of Homostar wanking

>>103274757 (OP)
If i be fair CC need to improve her singing. Erb is solo carried by her singing and nothing else so even if her 3d has shit in it. That thing will be far better than whatever 3d live cc cooked up

>>103274757 (OP)
mindbroken lol

>>103274757 (OP)
gg>cc>erb
but doesn't necessarilly mean erb's 3d performance was bad.

>>103274757 (OP)
>??? > 56k > 53k > ??? > ???

>>103275370
>autistic garbage she pulls at 53 seconds
na, she's tripping over herself, it's embarrassing
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6nx8sPqAw_E

>>103274757 (OP)
Yeah pretty much

CC >> GG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERB

so far

>>103275512
Go back to your shithole Ruffian

>>103274757 (OP)
ERB will always be the worst 3D live of any Holo.

>>103274757 (OP)
GG's was the greatest of all time, CC's was one of the best as far as more traditional 3D debuts go, and ERB's was still really good. I guess she gets hate because of the Stars guys.

>>103275767
The Sims segment sucked, old wizard was kino though.

>>103275767
She lives in Unicorns heads rent free lmao

>>103275889
na, it was just bad, it didn't have a fraction of the effort or budget, if it did it was completely wasted

>>103274757 (OP)
GG>>>>CC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ERB

>>103275665
>When you're mad for no reason. But you're also mad because
you're mad for no reason.

Not knowing the truth doesn’t make you ignorant; not wanting to know the truth does.

1.GG
2.
3.

Didn't watch homo party or the chuck e cheese band.

>>103274757 (OP)
GG>>CC>ERB

GG's was a full showcase with a plot and The Sims segment, while long, was funny and absurd. Oji-chan was such a chaotic feature that it mindbroke anons.
CC's was a standard holo3D, not even a 3D debut. You can find JPs riding a cart and singing covers every month, it's nothing special. The violin performance was good though and technically impressive. The real kino was the orisong which doesn't apply here.
ERB's was a typical 3D debut but with The Boyz™. Zeta was a cute guest too. Complaining about unicorns after sucked the little enjoyment I had for it though.

>>103275928
NTA but
>it didn't have a fraction of the effort or budget, if it did it was completely wasted
I wouldn't say it lacked "effort" it was just a fairly standard and by-the-book 3D debut

>>103276427
gigi and ceci had like 3 stages and a bunch of songs going through each of them, erbs was just a dumb theater

ERB > all
stay mad lmao

>>103276544
extraordinarily rancid bloodshit

>>103274757 (OP)
Back to #

>>103276544
Best post frfr

>>103275593
/thread

>>103276507
>erbs was just a dumb theater
She had like 3 but they cut/remaped them in a way to where they could fit inside the larger theater, which is only pretty creative now that I'm paying attention to it

ITT: Melty unitards lmao. Eat a bullet, troons.

>>103275535
She's having so much fun.

>>103275767
Because of homostars, not inviting a single EN or JP guest, her entire debut felt more like a glorified VR Chat singing stream rather than an actual 3D debut and also her temper tantrum because of the funni "unicorn tears" fiasco

My opinion is the only correct one.
GG>CC=ERB

Ok I have no idea what happened but I'm morbidly curious.
Someone explain to me why ERB is bad.

For me they kinda all have thier strengths and weaknesses. I felt like gigi's skits went on a bit long but there were some really strong moments thay made me laugh.

For Cecilia I felt the kart bit was a bit too long but it was nice seeing her interact with her jp senpai. She had some good song choices tho and I liked the band version of SSS.

For Elizabeth. Her singing was definitely the highlight fallen angel is a song I really enjoy and she sang it really well. While people lost thier minds over the boys and the unicorn tears stuff I thought that segment was pretty fun. I felt her skits were the weakest out of the ones shown so far since she relied a lot on that one surprised expression.

If I had a gun to my head and I had to rank them tho.
Id go Gigi=Ceci>(slightly) Elizabeth

>>103276870
Nah. Even putting holostars aside, it's obvious she had less thought put into it than cc and especially gg. she probably pocketed most of the budget.

>>103277062
>invents things in his mind to be mad about

>>103274757 (OP)
CC>GG. Looking forward to Raora's. The rest? Irrelevant.

>>103277062
Eh it was a pretty normal 3D, it was the other two that went above and beyond.

>>103276870
lol

>>103277121
>being mad at chuubas
Nope. I don't have the energy for that. I simply dislike ERB's 3D and I know it's not because of the holostars because I watch them sometimes.

>>103274757 (OP)
Raora's will be the most cliche one and it's going to be rated highly because of her perky tits eating the camera for 1 hour.

>>103277291
and her endearing voice

>>103277208
>I'm not mad at the holostars I just keep dickridign them
riiiiiiiiiiiight

>>103277376
what dicks? lmao

Liked CC's and ERB's, don't really have any opinion on GG's wasn't my cup of tea.

I kinda know Raora will middle between CC and ERB but I still have my fingers crossed she will blow doubters like me the fuck out.
She's just such a sweetie dum dum, please have it not be boring

>>103277023

- She barely streams
-Sells herself as a musical vtuber but she barely releases covers or original songs
- No one really knows what she brings to hololive outside being nerissa's fuckbuddy
- She's immature
- She's Bri'ish

>>103277197
>Reused stage
>New stage
>The same new stage but with different lighting
>The same new stage but with different lighting
>Reused stage
So long like 3 stages in total, just like GG and ERB

>>103277023
They dont watch her, just seethe.

>>103277506
Thanks for answering my question!

>>103277653
erbs all look the same

>>103277023
She's fine? If you like her singing then you'll probably like her if not well probably not.

What Gigi has done will forever set the bar for many 3Ds to come, CCs was better than ERBs but both weren't any special

>>103277811
I mean I feel thats kind of intentional? It all had to fit in with her "theater", if you had something completely different it wouldn't fit in. There's a fair bit of difference on a detail level, but if you're just taking an overall glance it's not as obvious.

>>103277811
>erbs all look the same
Yea bro that's the gimmick, its all suppose to be in a Theater like a stage-play
But that's not *LITERALLY* the case tho, you can see she's using the generic karaoke stage as seen here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0UFPrFbuwQ
And here
https://youtu.be/tZXIA-2fbuQ?t=1222
But just refitted to fit INSIDE of the theater

>>103277811
One has forests and trees and purple spotlights (like a theatre)
One is a karaoke bar with disco lights
One is a sweetland dream with oversized sweets
One is a lava waterfall with a raised stage and lanterns
One is a blue/orange rose garden with an oversized chandelier
The last one is a bit simplistic with a swirling large heart on the background

>>103275767
Question to anyone here, ignoring the homo appearance and Unicorn Tears, how do you think ERB's compared to IRyS's?

I actually don't believe any of you whiny fags, you can be retarded about ERBs 3D cause of males and Ollie but you're not fooling anyone thinking you will replay & rewatch CC 3D over ERBs regardless of the guests appearance.

>>103278254
Why would I base my ranking on the possibility that I might rewatch any of them instead of how much enjoyment I got watching them initially?

>>103278116
lazy

>>103278147
do a screenshot compilation like this one, I didn't watch it >>103277197

>>103278245
They're "good" tier both imo, kinda basic but gets the job done
I'd place Irys's *slightly* higher cuz I think her translating the car karaoke bit from 2D into 3D was neat, but I also think it suffers from the what everyone in Myth/Promise did were some of the "Wow!" factor in seeing their 3D is taken away due to use having already seen it at HoloFes

>>103278422
NTA but I've rewatched multiple of ERBs songs from hers. You're not wrong that it shouldn't be a primary factor but for a musically based 3D I think it's fine to consider.

>>103275714
She did nothing wrong, though.

>>103274757 (OP)
I actually like Gigi's singing the most. So for me her 3D has everything I could've ask for.

>>103274757 (OP)
CC's band performance is uncanny, the Solos are better

>>103280586
the band part felt really personal

>>103280509

>>103280631
did they actually play the instruments? to me it seems like they were just pretending

>>103278254
CC's song selection was way cooler to my tastes. I liked Giri Giri from ERB a lot but I don't much care for "it's a cute song but with DUDES XDDDD" ironic weeb crap.
The instrumental SSS was fucking amazing and the Rozen Maiden dance focused number was awesome.
I don't watch any of Justice at all but CC was the only one that made me think "this is a true idol"
Didn't care for any of her guest segments other than SSS though.

>>103280719
they did but she kept it simple for the ones that weren't as advanced with their instruments

>>103281188
maybe that's why i think it's uncanny. If it was as you said, i'd rather have her do it solo or get people who can actually play the instruments

>>103281279
she said in the stream she just wanted to play with them, not random people

>>103274757 (OP)
Even if you’re not a ERB hater you seriously can’t think her debut was anything more than mid

>>103281307
and that is why i think it's uncanny. i never said it was bad, i just didn't like it

>>103278254
Fuck you. Who the FUCK would watch ERbs shitty fucking generic 3d debut WITH DA BOYS a second time? What was fucking good about it?
It was literally the worst most generic 3D debut possible BUT WORSE!
You are everything wrong with vtuber fans. You are holding the entire medium back. I hate you so fucking much.

>>103281698
Holy yap

>>103281727
ERB FANS VANT FUCKING READ 3 LINES OF TEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!
I REPEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ERB FANS CANT EVEN READ 3 LINES OF TEXT.

>>103278254
don't include IRyS images with your faggy posts

>>103281784
>VANT

>>103274757 (OP)
IRyS was in CC's so hers is the best.

>>103275093
>Biboo took up almost as much screen time
and that's a good thing, she deserves it

>>103281784
Holy yap

i expected CC to be cute in 3d but she was WAY cuter than i could have imagined?? skinny white women, my only weakness. also it was really sweet to have sora come. japanese hags, my only weakness.

>>103277023
I'm just a casual observer to this gen but I keep hearing ERB's singing shilled as the greatest ever.
It was certainly not. Her fans are fucking obnoxious so I'm rooting for them to be put in their place is all.

>>103284317
the non-unicorn erb critic. i appreciate you. there's two of us!

>>103284317
ERB nerfs her own singing by overdoing it which makes it sound like she isn't in control of her own voice. Her JP pronunciation isn't great either.

>>103284417
Holy yap

All I know is ceci's cart racing segment was over 25% of her showcase and that's fucking criminal

>>103285090
biboo is my oshi so I was cool with it lol

>>103277023
i like her in general, unfortunately she is british

>>103274757 (OP)
I didn't watch any of them but...
>CC's had Chihaya so that's an automatic based
>GG's was too zoomer for me
>ERB made unicorns seethe which is always good
Only way Raora could top would be to have Merryweather on stream.

>>103284317
>>103284417
it's honestly hard to describe that singing style; overdoing it is one way to put it, but it's got that "i'm known as the singer so i gotta exaggerate every note to remind people i can sing good", similar to nerissa.

ERB sings the wrong fucking songs for the voice she uses

>>103285735
>CC's had sora, ririka, kanade, and chihaya, all of my favorite JPs
>i love CC
was pretty based, as far as these scripted events go it was the best

love GG too but hers was not great because it doesn't really suit her improv style of humor and entertainment, was pretty cringe.

>>103285735
The most brown twitter tr00n homobeggar post ever. Hits every mark

>>103286011
We don't narrate our posts here.

>>103274757 (OP)
>Gigi's 3D debut
The only thing I've seen people talk about is that old guy wizard and his comedy scenes. Imagine not even being the star of your own 3D debut

Gigi was the best.
Not a fan of CC's, it almost felt like she was acting as a director more than a performer in some parts.
ERB was good if you wanted a concert, meh (I'd say the most boring in en so far) if you wanted something different.

>>103285948
>doesn't really suit her improv style of humor and entertainment
Almost all of it was improv though?

>>103276906
rrat - ERB invited some en to her 3d (Nerissa 100%) but they turned it down because the boys were in it.

>>103286312
Meds

>>103278254
That part

>>103286372
I will go even further. The post on twitter was not about the unicorns, it was about some of the girls not wanting to collab with holostar.

GG>(Slightly lower)CC>>ERB
I think that the Sims bit for Gigi was a bit long but Mori did save it a bit for me. Otherwise I liked it especially her freestyle rap & her killing the dragon with cringe with the children's choir in the background. I also liked the performances though I wish she had a solo one. If she did the gap between her and CC would probably be bigger for me.
For Cecilia I think her performances were great, the kart segment was fun, though she did get overshadowed a bit. I do prefer Gigi’s a bit more but I could see myself liking Cece’s more with time.
As for ERB it felt average to me. I don’t really think it’s bad, and her singing is good but nothing really stood out to me in any way like the other two debuts. I also don’t care for the stars but I’m not going to dock any points off for that, I just don’t really care for them.

If I had to rank them in a tier list it would be
S GG CC
B ERB

Also am I the only one that thinks it’s weird that ERB didn’t release any music related thing after her debut?

Love GG's. Okay with CC's. Meh with ERB's

>>103286727
>Also am I the only one that thinks it’s weird that ERB didn’t release any music related thing after her debut?
Nah, Gigi just likes doing covers, and it seems like CC was working on her original for a long time. They shouldn't be the standard. I doubt Raora will release anything after hers.

>>103286727
ERB did 7 songs dude

>>>>> SHITrb

>>103277062
Bro these are all management ideas not the talent's. The talent is not the one spending the budget, they are not paying out of pocket lol.

>>103281698
Calm Down guy.
Breath,

>>103285090
But it led into Carbonated love... So forgive?

>CC puts a variety Japanese game show in her personal 3D
this should be enough to tell you she had no plans or direction for her 3D
https://youtu.be/LD6f_6w2q7g?t=610

>>103286991
Bait harder next time

>>103274757 (OP)
I only watched Liz's because she's the only Holo I trust to have zero Holostars antis in her fanbase since she's a huge unicorn repellent. The idea of watching anyone else in Holo makes me too uncomfortable.

>>103275370
>Erb is solo carried by her singing and nothing else
Imagine being this retarded and deaf, homo lovers really are just subhuman mouthbreathers.

>>103274757 (OP)
CC and GG were good for variety streamers. ERB was good for a singer

>>103287450
Go back to blasting your brain-dead J-pop slop.

>>103274757 (OP)
What was holo thinking putting Raora last...I dont know what she can do woth her talents...The only people still excited are probably the coomers because of her design and the hardcore chattini. This was unfair to her. The schedule should have been changed

>>103278254
t. THE whiny fag

>>103278245
Just finished watching all of 'em and I just think the IRyS one has more emotional and clever use of the 2d and 3d model it felt nostalgic but fresh (so good imo). ERB's suffers in comparison of her other genmates in scope, it just feels too 'theater kid' like unironically, CC's Raora's GiGi's felt like they had a good structure with a climax and everthing, while ERB's felt more constraint which isn't a bad thing like stage plays use that and lighting to their advantage but in 3d you don't have that lighting advantage and there's really no reason to restrain yourself unless, I guess, you thought trying to be too ambitious and setting expectations too high would hurt you for your future 3D events. I know you said ignoring x and x but like it's hard to do so because it's part of the experience which didn't elevated and in some cases hurt it because sometimes the guys were (at least imo) trying a bit too hard because they are aware in the position they are in and obviously they saw this opportunity to take advantage off.

>>103287554
The green and orange one would have mogged anybody back or front, I trust in the big cat to be just a very cute ditz and it will be fine.

>>103274757 (OP)
GG>>>>ERB>>>>>>>>>CC
I'm expecting Raora's to be worst than CC though

The transitions for CC's show were odd and clunky. And I mean like you could see the seams.

>>103284417
This, listening to summer relay kareoke compared to her usual power blasting was a eye opening. She sounded better than IRyS

>>103288081
Sounds like Doll Joints to me.

>>103274757 (OP)
A bunch of cowards hiding the graphs like they don’t matter. Where’re the evidences? All the baiters running their fucking mouths?

ERB's mic was weirdly muffled during some of her skits and I long for more EN duets but other than that it was perfect.
>9/10
GG's was obviously an insane fever dream and that was enjoyable to an extent but I wouldn't have minded just a bit more structure
>8.5/10
CC's was fine. Felt very run of the mill with some classic CC humor mixed in. Not bad but nothing that really stood out.
>7/10

>>103275767
if it was so great why has it brought in the least amount of money

>>103278254
I dont mind the squad rollin in. I prefer them over ollie, shes insufferable

>>103288597
It was very normiecore

>>103288597
Money isn't everything, Shekelstein. Most people were too busy pogging out to donate.

>>103278245
It was flashier than IRyS's and as a mid-2000s otaku I very much enjoyed the Angel Beats and P&S covers. The only downside was the stars and the lack of EN guests, but I could ignore the former and cope about the later.

>>103276347
>Complaining about unicorns after sucked the little enjoyment I had for it though
I lay the blame at containment breaking retards targeting kaneru, which led to either kaneru or the twitter rosarians bringing it to ERB's attention who felt the need to address it. Honestly, her post wasn't even inflammatory. /vt/ just loves making mountains out of molehills.

>>103277023
I'm going to get flack for this, but she's kind of like the second EN Suisei next to Mori. Like Suisei, she barely streams but instead chooses to focus more of her energy on singing and stage performance which is alright if she's going for that route of entertainment. She's also not bothered much with interacting with the homos like Suisei, but she gets more flack about it since she's not as big as Suisei is and is Bri'ish.

>>103289292
It's impressive that they managed to make so many threads out of that nothing burger

>>103289376
It's what happens when they have nothing else to run with

>>103277062
The point is those 3 members did what you would expect from them. It's not like "erb didn't put much thought", but rather that's the show she would had pull off because that's who she is.
It's not about lazyness, budget or whatever you might think, but rather choices of a character.

>>103286727
>Also am I the only one that thinks it’s weird that ERB didn’t release any music related thing after her debut?
I thought the same, but then i found out CC composed, wrote and produced her own song.
Something that maybe Liz cannot do, being a great and talented singer isn't enough. Maybe she did and it's not ready yet (for the same reason that she hasn't done the other things)

>>103285090
Yeah it was a bit unfornate that the weakest segment was also the longest. But desu she throwing the JPbro´s a bone here and and our time to eat was later, and we got some real good food once our turn came

>>103274757 (OP)
I'm not going to rate until Raora's get done (although i don't have high hopes for it) but i'm going to comment that it's interested than even for these ones that were a bit more creative based all of them struggle A LOT to fill an hour.
Despite being their 3D debuts, a year+ in the making, the realization of all their dreams to...every holo is incapable of going a full hour without at least 10-15 minutes of filler.

>>103281389
You have no soul

>>103288273
>>103287825
Fuck off. I refuse to believe there are people with taste as fuckijng awful as this.
>>103289343
NEVER compare ERB to fucking SUISEI ever fucking again holy fucking shit HOW DISRESPECTFUL CAN YOU BE TO SUISIE!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

>>103290141
Wrong.

>>103291599
Ojichan wizard was funny but that's just it. Overall CC's was the best one at the moment. I see people mentioning kart section was too long but GG had the same problem. We'll have too see what Raora has in store for us.

I did laugh here and there during Gigi's, but I'd say hers was the weakest. It was funny, yes, but almost everything was left to luck. Even Gigi said they purposely shot one take for most scenes, didn't care for refinement, adlibbing everything, etc. So the result was, for lack of a better metaphor, like absolute bottom-feeder garbage but served up on gilded plates to look amazing (which they were to an extent, admittently)

>>103291796
Forgot to add, the meme-based humor and relying on cringe was just infantile

For now it's GG > CC > ERB. Honestly following up GG and CC is something I would NOT envy , but I really really hope Raora can show us what she can do, she's actually has a good sense of humour despite the ESL. Poor thing, she's probably nervous as fuck too

>>103275593
/thread basically
Love or hate Gigi, it was fucking incredible. She captured the Zeitgeist of 2000s shitposting, drowning Sims in the swimming pool, Ojichan Wizard, getting run over by a car and backed into 15 times.
I'm not even a Gigi watcher but every single time she shows up on my timeline it's great content. She has amazing chemistry with most people she interacts with and carries conversations.

If you took the best of what Coco had to offer and the best of what Gigi offers right now, you'd have the Number 1 Holo. Her only deficit is singing and she's trying hard to still deliver.
>Inb4 "umm akshully your sense of humor is bad and shitposting is braindead genZ humor I am very intellectual and only jork it to Rick and Morty"

>>103291599
unicorn seething

>>103274757 (OP)
Fact:
GG went full shitposts and even normies are loving the shit out of it, hands out the best.
CC was literally holo standards, big party with a lot of guests. 3D orchestra was kino but nothing special.
ERB is a singing monster but that's it. And obligatory "Homo".

>>103274757 (OP)
Aren't 3d showcases usually pretty shit? Gigi's is the only one I've ever seen that went beyond lukewarm cringe. I feel like everyone's expectations of what they should be is now crazy.

Gigi's was good, erb and zeta had a good performance, CC is generally a decent streamer but she isn't funny when she's trying too hard or when she's interacting with JP members, unfortunately that was the majority of the showcase. I feel like she was trying too hard to keep up with Gigi but their skillsets are different. The original song she composed was more impressive than the entire showcase.

>>103291784
>>103291796
Can you otomos please stop trying to astroturf the notion that CC's 3D was anything but a weaker version of GG's 3D? Yeah the orchestra was kino I'll admit, but overall you'd just have to hand this one to GG.

Aaaaand just like that we revert back to GGvCC. Thanks anons

I don't like CC's, but it's more about me than her, her voice is annoying, her skits weren't funny and dragged out, her things with the JPs also weren't landing. Like she tried to do all at once and nothing landed, except for the concert thing, it's nice.
I cringed to death with GG's and some parts of it have been living rent free in my head, but Ig that's what she wants sooooo.....yeah.
ERB sang well.

CC is my EN oshi but GGs was still the best because it was so unique and different. But having said that, as far as more traditional lives go... CCs was absolutely top tier and her personality shined through.
Honestly as long as you have ERBs debut ranked dead last your opinion is fine.
GG and CC are good friends who both had fun debuts, lets not feed the wierd schizos who for some reason want to turn CC and GG fans against each other.
GG>CC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ERB

>>103292280
Awful, awful, objectively bad, wrong, and incorrect take right here.
Don't respond to me, you aren't worth more of my time.

>>103292316
You're an otomo right? No need to get so defensive, it's not for everyone and if you can't take it then go back to your hugbox, no one forces you to come here

>>103281698
Unicorns calling homocollab enjoyers "sisters" while writing like scorned women themselves.

3Ds were bretty gud, looking forward to Raora's and the Justice collab

>>103292195
A shame, we had some good talking points (traditional 3D ones vs heavy in skit) and discussion early on. And even cautious optimism for Raora's 3D

>>103292529
Sisters like to falseflag

>>103277050
>gigi's skits went on a bit long
Everyone keeps saying this but it isn't really true. It doesn't need to be tight because it's not a comedy show, it's a bunch of streamers fucking around. Because Gigi lurks here she has internalised that her skits were too long when everything she does being too long is part of the charm.

>>103274757 (OP)
GG's was genuinely impressive, CC is cute so she can do no wrong and I didn't watch ERB

>>103292727
>Everyone keeps saying this but it isn't really true.
GG's sims skit took up a quarter of her entire 3D live. It was WAY too long and literally nothing happened
The only thing people actually liked from GG's 3d was ojichan and that's not even related to GG at all, it's just an old man.

>>103275093
>Homostar wanking
I read this as Homestar wanking, I didn't know ERB was based

>>103274757 (OP)
Basically this: >>103292797
Pretty sad that GG is such a background character that she gets outshined by her own guest in her own 3D.

>>103292797
>literally nothing happened
She impregnated Nerissa and had a birth scene, wtf do you mean?

>GG
10/10 masterpiece
>CC
9/10 (really more like 8/10 quality/content wise but she gets an extra point for being adorable)
>ERB
Didn't watch. Never will. I have never watched a solo ERB stream after her debut. I have no interest.

>>103292848
Honestly I forgot that didn't happen, people don't even talk about her 3D besides the old dude.

>>103274757 (OP)
CC>>>GG>>>ERB
CC was just more varied, more interaction and honestly more funny. If you take at the end bit of gg's then it was a pretty basic 3d.

>>103292797
GG's singing and performance in both Lower and Niccori are very good, and I enjoy both more than any of the songs performed by CC besides SSS (which arguably the highlight of her 3D). Both get smoked by ERB's Giri Giri Ai and that P&S song though.

>>103292930
That's another thing, GG had way less songs because her actual singing ability is not that great. CC's a bit better than her but lacks confidence but at least CC had the courage this time to tryfor her 3D.
AND she did Carbonated Love which is 11/10.
CC also composed her OWN Orisong. How insane is that??

>>103277506
>- No one really knows what she brings to hololive outside being nerissa's fuckbuddy
Nerissa doesn't even like her that much personalitywise. She moreso respects ERB's singing and VA ability

She did the production of her Mephisto cover, >>103289633

>>103278254
>you're not fooling anyone thinking you will replay & rewatch CC 3D over ERBs
Yes i will. You know why???
>Holorchestra SSS

>>103286488
I will spread this rrat

>>103292995
It's kind of been like that ever since her first two covers, it's cool that she's doing it but if its holding up releases she should considering letting cover deal with it.

>>103292964
I can attest she's very talented and a better musician (and that SSS performance is kino), but

>CC's a better singer

Oh hell no. That's probably the only thing she does not have over Gigi. A better speaking voice? Maybe (subjective), but you can just take a listen to the Holonatsu karaoke relay to see who is more in control of her voice and has finesse when singing. Again they both do not stand a chance against ERB, but I just know between the two who would deliver in terms of vocals

He was right

>>103293156
nta but I cant take you seriously if you're one of the people who think ERB can sing, she's literally temu Amalee

>>103292930
Yet ERBs debut was boring and uncreative as shit. There a fucking hundred 3d lives I can watch at this point with better songs sang by better members. Who gives a fuck about ERbs shitty live? GG and CC both had creative and uinique lives where their personalities shown through. ERBs is just a boring concert (again, of which I have seen many of by members I simply like better) with DA BOYS making it worse.

ERB has that generic Talent Show belting style voice that is just so fucking boring to me. Not saying she is a bad singer, obviously she has technical skill... But I could not be less interested in her singing.
Give me CC and GG and their amateur but soulful singing any day.

>>103293202
>imagine being this contrarian

>the same response 3 times in a row

>>103293332
Maybe it is a common opinion and you are the minority defending ERBs debut over the others????

>>103293213
>>103293202
I'm just looking at it objectively. I couldn't care less about dabois and I think her 3D is whatever. But clearly she's the better singer out of the two. Yet my favourite karaokes are still Gigi's

>>103293332
>most people on 4chan have same opinion???

>>103293332
>Woah, many think ERB is shit? What?? Never in a million years did I expect that to be the general consensus

>>103293368
>minority
>on 4chan
We are like 20 people in this board and it's clear how is pretty much one-sided

>>103293475
Majority of people here seem to think cc's live was better than gg's and I wouldn't trust that opinion either.

>>103293501
>fifth busiest board on the site
>20 people

>>103293512
I'd say it's pretty split actually. Which is great. It means they were both super good but also extremely different. That's like the ideal situation in a gen, and especially with two people who are so close.

>>103293512
Basically this, I've been trying to correct people here on the better points of gg's live but they don't seem to get it

>>103293763
>>103293512
You're not slick, I've seen the same shitpost on /#/. We love CCGG here

>>103293793
I like GGCC too, but that doesn't change the fact the gg's live was better than cc's. Everything GG touches is just gold, even her collabs like with cc and especially mori. Grem Reaper is the hottest shit right now

>>103293842
Yep same shitposter. Give it up. You glow way too brightly, and samefagging like that is TOO obvious man. Have same respect for us, we're not THAT stupid.

>>103293512
Holy deflection trying to start a CC v GG
>GG was more entertaining and funny
>CC was more musically interesting
Both were equally memoriable for different reasons

>>103293912
So I guess all the other people who liked it more are shitposting too? What angle is this? Also this entire thread is opinions about which live was better, why are you singling me out? Hell I'm not even the only one saying gg's was the best.
Get off of me.

>>103293912
he really is obvious kek

>>103291796
Gigi's was theatre compared to most of the girls doing tv.

>>103293512
the gap comes from ceci's being prettier, having more sexy dancing and cuteness, gigi's is just a shitpost, it was funny, and enjoyable to watch, but the performance and music aspects of ceci's was clearly better and more thoughtful

CC 9
GG 7
ERB 2

>>103294025
I can agree with this. CC's was an actual 3d live. gg's felt more just like any other stream

also the complaint of ceci frontloading the stream with a 30 minute driving segment gave 30 minutes of denser and more beautiful art on the backend, as opposed to it being dragged out at any point

>>103293981
Because despite some other anons literally shitting on GG like >>103294025 (which is fine since everyone has different (shit) tastes, I prefer GG's 3Ds by a mile wide), your posts are still so blatantly trying to set up some CC VS GG angle that it stands out way too much (not even one reasoning, just vague shit) that even numberfags are singling you out. Imagine being ousted despite the obvious differing opinions allowing to mask your shitstirring ways

>>103294150
even the kart section was good, the girls were really getting into it. them smiling make me smile

>>103274757 (OP)
Raora better do a pole dance routine and/or make their tits jiggle in front of the camera, because otherwise she would be turbo mogged.

>>103294203
we're just comparing the debuts, no one is shitting on anyone, faggot

>>103294203
>which is fine since everyone has different (shit) tastes, I prefer GG's 3Ds by a mile wide
Okay so to can have opinions on which is better or worse but I can't. Got it. You realize you saying gg's is better is THE SAME OPINION as me right? And yet I'm the shitposter? You even just said gg's blew cc's out of the water, why is your opinion okay and not mine

>>103293514
Yes, the generals are the ones that keep the entire board semi-relevant. Just look at the nosedive the speed of posting suffer after the hack and people moving to infinity and tower.

Idk whether to be proud of CCGG for creating 2 great lives enough for retards here to form actual coherent thoughts to debate or to be depressed because schizos will try to spin this as CCvsGG for the 2399572th time today

>>103294525
I don't know why you're trying to police a thread literally made to compare justice 3d lives. Just leave and let us talk and compare

>>103294525
Be happy. GG's was a wild mess that culminated in a few really funny bits and some great awkward acting from Mori and Rissa.
CC's was more traditional but leaned heavily on her musical talent (playing the violin) while still managing to have a few decent skits to break up the music. If they all were seriously llaying their instruments, I hope this sets a precident for more talents to chose to have a solo or group play with their instrument of choice, because we really need more of that kind of performance variety.

>>103274757 (OP)
I would probably say Cece had an overall more enjoyable 3d experience. GG had the old guy but that was about it. I'm very excited for more 3dcece. She has the perfect energy

>>103292797
You aren't watching a fucking movie it's a streamer doing stupid shit, why are you acting as if staying in 1 location is somehow a crime when having more than a couple locations is already going above and beyond what is required . The funniest parts of the entire show were little things that happened in that segment

>>103294150
I don't understand this line of thinking, it was dragged out, like a lot because it was dumb shit she wanted to do. It's not gonna be better because you say it's "denser" because it's not, it's was boring and dragged out and then it was okay and traditional, she tried with the skit thing and it was uninteresting, that's all there is to it.

>weirdos trying to turn this into CC VS GG
Whats wrong with you people? What causes this forced rivalry? Its not even just for these debuts there are at least two people on this board constantly trying to force this.
Its so weird because obviously CC and GG love each other (platonically) irl and constantly collab and help each other out behind the scenes too.

>>103295274
I think people underestimate how rewatchable the skits/performance are, especially with the added context of the 3D after-party. I think I rewatched parts like the GIMS part 2 times already and still laugh hard due the context of them mostly improving it on the fly. And that Nuyuri performance is filled with tidbits like that (Mori free styling, almost running into Gigi, contrast with Rissa diva-ing it). Hell just now I rewatched it and noticed Mori reacted to the horses whenever she's next to it. There's a reason the VOD views skyrocketed hard and almost matched ERB's VOD views despite being uploaded 1 day later

>>103295481
Basically this, if she just cut the segments back a bit and added more songs it would have been perfect. Like the weird dialogue box part or buying the random items or whatever? Very very boring.
I dunno, I also think it was actually TOO MUCH improve.
The chior kids were kino though, the rest should have been cut back a bit.

>>103295534
keeping them on their toes drives them to bigger and better things

I only give a shit about holo for music so for me its Liz then CC, then GG. Liz also gets a bonus point for putting the boys through a humiliation ritual

>>103295682
she only humiliated herself

>>103295604
>actually TOO MUCH improve
THANK YOU. There was like ZERO direction to gigi's entire 3d. It was just "random = funny"
It would say it lost the plot but it didn't even have one to begin with

>>103295717
Nah she flexed her incredible vocals in 7 songs, far more than anyone else so far. I get you hate her for interacting with men, but to try and pretend like she isnt a top tier singer is retarded.

>>103295582
The vod views of GG's is almost 100k more than ERB's by now

>>103295734
I didnt find it particularly funny, but I respect her for wizard ojichan

>>103295806
lol

>>103295682
>putting the boys through a humiliation ritual
>No EN
>No JP
>No Devis
>give attention to homos
If anything, she humiliated herself

>>103295815
Yeah. In the span of like several dozen hours in matched ERB'a VOD views then surpassed it. She even nerfed it by uploading separate performance MVs (and those two parts are the ones I replay the most), so for now the only thing i rewatch it is for the certain funny bits like the freestyle rap (because fruit punch ftw) and also the choir part

>>103295932
Really surprised the unis are so mad about her making them sing the gayest most effeminate song possible and not giving them an MC segment. She was phenomenonial in all her songs though, but to each their own I suppose.

>>103295946
Comparing VODs is a slippery slope into /#/fag territory and no one likes /#/fags. Now people are going to compare cece's VOD to gigi and no one wants that.
Better to keep it subjective and base on entertainment value

>>103296041
>Really surprised the unis are so mad about her making them sing the gayest most effeminate song possible and not giving them an MC segment.
Not a single unicorn even watched it. This is the first time i heard she did not give them an MC segment. I didn't even know

>>103296052
Fun fact: CC's vod is actually doing better than gigi's vod in the same amount of hours. We'll see if cc's vod has legs though

>>103296052
I guess. I just wanna say that I love replaying the bits and performance. And from some of the YT comments I'm not alone. Also others don't enjoy the improv nature of it, which is fine I get it.

Conclusion: Humour is really subjective as fuck

>>103296139
>We'll see if cc's vod has legs though
Most likely not. It doesn't have the same viral impact style that attracts a bunch of viewers after the fact.
Nothing brings in the masses like hecking unhinged and chaotic content.
Re-reading my post I realize I sound anti-GG but I'm just anti normies.

>>103287554
It's just following the debut order, but she shouldn't have debuted last to begin with

>>103296186
Cc also has a lot of clips going around so it has a good chance of beating gigi's. We'll see when 24 hours is over

>>103296207
I completely agree, hoping she at least has some cute bits with guests

>>103295806
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>103287554
Skill diff im afraid
Luckily for me im a coomer and her 3D as EEE cupsize beeg kitty milk cannons that have audible sloshing sounds

>>103287554
>>103296207
>>103296314
Raora just needs to act like a dumb bimbo, giggle, flaunt her tits and thighs and say "i cooka da pasta mama mia!" or something like that and it will be a hit with most vtuber fans.

My opinion:

GG's was really entertaining throughout. I don't agree with some people here saying the sims bit went on too long, I think it was good, especially with context that they were making it up as they went along. In terms of moment to moment enjoyment it's the best one.

If you ignore the karting segment, CC's was kino. It shows off her variety of talents really well. It's hard to ignore the karting segment though when it was so fucking long. It's a bizarre inclusion, it feels very out of place. CC herself isn't a big part of it and the pretty childish over the top energy is definitely not something CC is known for. The debut would have been better off without it, or cutting it down so that it's just the other girls teaching CC how to drive and then she does her run.

I really, really like ERB's duet with Zeta but the rest of her debut was completely forgettable, and it would have been better off without the homos. The joke of "guys singing a cutesy song" isn't very funny.

My prediction for Raora's is that it will sit between CC's and ERB's. I personally find Raora quite boring, and her main talent of artwork can't really be exploited in 3D to make something unique and entertaining. I expect it to be very run of the mill.

>>103274757 (OP)
I loved all three but GG>CC>Erb

>>103296207
Honestly how the fuck can Holo even know about that, they don't even know that Green and Orange would be mega unhinged and be full of retarded creative energy in a year. I guess they went for the safe marketable talents for first and last (singer, artist)

CC had IRyS, so of course it was the best Justice 3D so far.

>>103296569
The Karting section was part of her learning how to drive. It was part of the entire 3d theme.
If you want a segment in a 3d that doesn't fit. Gigi's chior segment LITERALLY HAD NOTHING to do with her in the slightest. That entire chior could have been cut out for other segments

>>103296657
Gigi's 3d made me realize that gigi doesn't really have a personality outside of "lol so random"
She has no one core thing that defines her. Like she tried to do some rpg adventure but also Sims but also 3d people like wtf? What story are you even trying to say?

>>103296657
Gigi's 3d was basically the fidget spinner of 3d lives. I'll say it

>>103296819
True, ranked 3rd place for me so far, but I don't have much faith that Raora will do better

>>103296657
The karting is bad for me, no matter what you say it's still bad to me. And for someone that doesn't really enjoy CC's voice, the only thing that was okay to me was the concert but that's about it. It doesn't have much entertainment value to me beyond that, but hey, if you like the "traditional concept of a idol debut" then the later half is great for you.
Also choir isn't that hard to write anon

>>103296657
I disagree with that. The choir was a joke GG came up with and she wrote the lyrics they sung, I don't see how you can say it had nothing to do with her. It's the same thing as the wizard, she came up with the bit.
Meanwhile the majority of the karting segment is dedicated to people other than CC. It's not like it was an improv bit driven by her, or a joke she wrote. It's just some japanese tv game show thing. And again, that artificial hyper energy has nothing to do with what CC is actually like.

>>103296863
Also the kart segment ran sooo long ate up half the show. Second half was great though

>>103296901
You seem to not realize that GG's sim part also took up 30 minutes of the show and somehow felt like it went on even longer.

>>103296945
Oh that was also quite bad too, didn't find it funny at all

>>103296945
I cringed to death with it but somehow it was nice to me because I was laughing out loud trying to decipher wtf is happening before my eyes. The karting is just plain boring to me, whatever CC tried to do with that didn't work for me anyway.

>>103297063
I feel like you're the type that laughs and smiles when sparkly colors pop up. Gen alphas are the worst

Me on the left.

>>103297124
Yep here we go again with the "my humour is more sophisticated than yours". Is that what it is?

>>103297130
Did they use Ao's model for that? Maybe im misremembering but I thought her model had gloves like that

>>103277121
It's the /vt/ way

>>103297169
If your humor is "lol I don't get what's going on but this is funny" then your bar for humor is extremely low.
You're basically admitting that gigi's 3d live isn't unique, it's just "lol random" which is the same as any other "lol random" social media shit that exists.

>>103297287
Shut the fuck up you dumb autistic bitch yoour opinions are awful and nobody cares how sophisticated you think you are. Goddamn.

>>103297404
Suddenly so hostile. Guess I was right

>>103297287
Oh this anon here has the phd in humour. If things are funny then I laugh, and because I understand what was going on in CC's and I didn't find it funny, does that prove that it was even lower than my bar of humour?
You're the one guy that has been trying the "lol random isn't funny" all this time so talking to you is a waste of time. And btw, I was saying I tried to decipher what was happening like watching Mori acting like a robot or GG and Rissa's family skit and had a good time with it. I didn't have a good time with trying to watch CC's karting thing, I know what it was, lore and shit but it was still boring, that's it

>>103296041
Unicorns didnt watch it, normal people hate extremely tedious british women. Like, I hate Rin Penrose too, do you think I'm a unicorn for that tranny looking creature just because ?I dont think "Tesco XD" is an amazing piece of entertainment?

>>103297287
There's a method to her madness, that in the end even you guys can't agree on ("it's just references!" "It's random!" It's just loud!" "It's not clever"). I'd say your criticism applies to all comedic moments (yes even CC's skits) since in the end humour is in the eye of the beholder and the only metric we can put on is that lots of people enjoy it

>>103274757 (OP)
erb's skills as a singers are the best in hololive unquestionably. she has incredible range, knows plenty of vocal techniques, and can sing just about anything. if someone claims her as a bad singer, I'm almost certain they're clouding their objectivity with bias because they don't like her as a person. this said, as a 3d it felt lackluster, because it felt like it was being carried by her singing alone. I could go to her unarchived karaoke and have just as good if not better of a time. I don't consider myself a unicorn but I also wasn't interested in any of her guests, so there is that too. I like holoEN.
gigi's 3d was an acid trip. it had slow moments with the sims stuff but it stuck with me, and it had some real highs. I had some hard laughs. I will remember it and look back on moments.
cc's 3d didn't push any boundaries but it was fun. I enjoyed it. the cart racing went on too long for a 3d supposed to be highlighting cc as the star, but the rest was great. I enjoyed it.

gigi > cc > erb
gigi - 7.5 / 10
cc - 6.5 / 10
erb - 5 / 10

>>103297553
>>103296819

>>103297564
This is a reasonable, well thought out post.

>half of the people here won't watch the Justice 3D because Liz will be in it

>>103297641
Wow surely they'll miss the 200 viewers from here!

>>103297629
Don't be mean, grems love fidget spinners

>>103297519
I only give a shit about holo for the music and she is top tier. Dunno who that Rin person is, but you seem very upset

>>103297668
>200
Anon I think that there has been like 7 kr 8 anons here, each tries to suck their own dick to further their point and replied to themselves so blatantly obvious that there's literally no point

>>103274757 (OP)
ERB>CC>GG, but it's not a competition

>>103297564
>erb's skills as a singers are the best in hololive unquestionably
And yet she is one of the most uninteresting, least unique, most generic singer in the whole company. You would have to pay me to listen to her.

>>103297847
We are kindred spirits, you and I

>>103297726
>she is top tier
She barely even fucking makes any music dipshit. She is in the absolute bottom of hololive musical output.
CC just fucking wrote, composed, and helped produced her own song, sang it, plays multiple instruments..... But live sings really high notes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dumbass/

>>103297847
Fuck off loser. Letting her stupid tits blind you. Idiot. Dumbass. Never have an opinion again.
>>103297864
Shit taste. Dont respind to yourself freak.

>>103297963

>>103297852
>And yet she is one of the most uninteresting, least unique, most generic singer in the whole company.
say that about her personality and I'll agree with you, but her singing? now that's some bullshit

>>103298040
true, her singing is unique in a bad way.

>>103274757 (OP)
So far ERB was the only good one.

>>103298149
How so

>>103298149
Wouldnt go that far, but she is #1

>>103292296
>t. Seething unicorn

Well it's been fun but Ig it's back to shitposting. Later anons

What I found out from this thread is that some people REALLY don't like karting with friends kek (I personally liked it)

>>103298572
Well most people here don't HAVE friends. I thought it was good fun though, very silly, very cute.

They're pretty close, and i have my biases, but i review them like this
>ERB
7/10
Carried a lot by her singing, the concept was very simple, to its detriment imo. The sets were fun, the performances were all very good, I listen to Giri Giri every time it comes up on my mixes, but 3D showcase about what to do for a 3D showcase really just isn't the most daring concept.
>GG
5/10
Gigi's showcase swung all the way in the other direction from Liz's, again a bit too far. I think her humor doesn't actually work for me unless she has a game or the right person to bounce off of. It kind of felt like a budget Jontron video, and the songs were clearly not the draw. The start was strong, but the showcase kind of unraveled until I lost interest by the end.
>CC
7/10
A good in-between of theatrical performance and non sequitur skits, but the energy was low and some segments ran too long. Something about the pacing made the showcase feel oddly sshort. CC is talented but her singing voice still isn't very strong.

>>103298868
horrible post

>>103298868
good post

>>103298868
mediocre post

>>103298868
I hate you.

I will say though, although I though CC's karting bit went on way too long and was pretty boring, the bollywood over-dramatic edit at the start was actually really funny.

>>103298868
>It kind of felt like a budget Jontron video
Probably the best way I've heard Gigi's 3d live described

>>103298868
ERB should just loosen up a bit. She has this tendency to play things a bit too straight in professional settings. There's a reason her chibi ERB stuff is popular, it's because it fits her personality better unironically. Having a pure shitpost song in the 3D based on that would have been great. Obviously this song can't be done because of copyright but imagine her acting like this on the showcase.
https://youtu.be/ciBeF4W9_3I?list=RDciBeF4W9_3I
Cut out the homo song cause fuck em, and do the Po song dancing like that, with Polka and Kronii as guests for a weird dream sequence and it would have been much better.

>>103296733
>no one core thing that defines her
Funny that you brought this up as if that's inherently bad because even after one whole year the funniest bit that CC could come up with is still about her driving skill shown in debut, except for this time I wasn't laughing anymore.

Also what is this obsession with Kanauru's animation among Holomems? I mean I don't necessary hate them but I have to give credit to GG for not using them for once.

>>103299376
>Cut out the homo song cause fuck em
But that was the "shitpost song" you wanted. Making her sing a cute song, so she would break her character.

>>103299786
CC's live was very CCcore, it fit her perfectly. Gigi's was just "hey let's just throw some random shit together"
This is because cc actually built up a personality and inside jokes with her otomos and gigi simply did not. Gigi has no jokes or character growth to pull from so just just pulled up some random Sims shit, rpg shit and a chior that doesn't even fit into anything at all.
The whole thing was a clusterfuck

>>103299969
>The whole thing was a clusterfuck
That's gigicore indeed

>>103300028
No it isn't. You can't just say "randomness" is a personality. It's the opposite, it's the lack of personality. Randomness isn't a gigi exclusive thing, it's a TikTok thing. It's a Twitter thing. It's a YouTube Shorts thing

>>103300127
This is why I personally feel Bae's chaotic nature fits her better than gigi's chaotic nature. When Bae does it, she still has a personality of likes and interests buried under there, gigi's is just too... Out there, I guess? Like it's just hit or miss, trying to see what sticks to the wall.

Imagine if your oshi heard how you're talking about her friends
Justice greater than the sum of their parts, can't we celebrate them equally?

>>103300127
>You can't just say "randomness" is a personality
Yes i can, and you cannot just decide things.

>>103300236
This. Hololive as whole since they're all friends. You may like someone more than another, or you may even dislike someone, but trashtalk in this way it's just wrong even if you have an Hololive oshi, since they're friends.

>>103300243
I hope you realize by saying this you're saying gigi has no uniqueness to her character. She's just like any other person saying random things for some shock factor that will be forgotten next month for the next new thing.

Damn got all 3 Rosarians in this thread defending ERB

>>103300127
>>103300188
Gigi's brand of Chaos works better when she's the instigator than the victim, thats what distinguishes her from Bae imo
If her showcase had her doing pranks or solving problems with mischief it would have felt way more in character

>>103299969
>>103300127
>>103300188
>cc actually built up a personality and inside jokes with her otomos and gigi simply did not
>Gigi has no jokes or character growth to pull from
Yeah maybe I shouldn't take you too seriously. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

>>103300339
>f her showcase had her doing pranks or solving problems with mischief it would have felt way more in character
This I can actually agree with! Sadly that was not the case

>>103299786
>even after one whole year the funniest bit that CC could come up with is still about her driving skill shown in debut
That's wrong. She could think of something else but I remember CC asking if we are sick of the car crash bit, but in manner that obviously meant she will still do it even if we say yes. So it basically kind of a in-joke for Otomos.

>>103299969
You are being too harsh on GG.

Let's not forget Reya came up with gigi's 3d live, so if it didn't feel gigi related, that's probably why

>>103300322
Ok find me another holomem which is like Gigi.

>>103298868
solid writeups, terrible scores.

>>103300625
Luckily none of them since they all seem to make a long term impact on their own

>>103300625
korone before she started taking it easy

>>103300707
So she is unique.
We can stop discussing about it then.

>>103300828
Actually I think you just proved they're all unique except gigi. I mean Jesus Christ, she took a backseat in her own 3d live. Everyone loved ojichan. Not even gigi WITH ojichan. Just ohichan. They loved him so much I still see anons posting his face specifically. Not him with gigi. Just him.

>>103300921
>he cannot tell me another holomem which is like GIgi
>"b-but everyone else is unique not her!!"
I think it's useless to go further.

>Everyone loved ojichan
Yeah, that's her idea, she wanted him so much and it worked. So it's a gigi thing.
But still you want to deny everything.

>>103300993
>it was gigi's idea to be a background character
Honestly that's the most on brand thing about her 3d live I've heard so far

>>103300921
Ahhh now I see it, you're the one that has been pushing the angle, jeez you're dedicated schizo I'll give you that.

>>103300921
You are a truly disguting and pitiful creature.

>>103274757 (OP)
I personally had more fun with CC's than any other justice ones. Watching CC interact with the other girls was cute and cc herself was very VERY bouncy. I hope she has a chance to be in more 3d lives and events in the future

Do Otomos only know how to praise their oshi by bringing others down, or is it just a falseflag?

>>103292016
Implying Rick and Morty doesn't have this exact kind of humor

>>103301339
a true otomo never talks ill of cecilia's wife

>>103301354
I just watched an episode of rick and morty where they went to a planet full off ass and shitting out chocolate milk
That pretty much lines up with gigi's 3d live

>>103301417
Comparing one 3d live to another isn't shitting on anyone, though. I like CC and I liked her live the most, simple as.

>>103301472
comparing is still toxic, because they're not competing to each other. Also it will end like this thread, where people will shit on each other for their oshi.

>>103301564
What? The whole point of this thread was to compare them and give our opinions on which is best. If you can't handle other peoples' opinions then why are you even in this thread.
I stand by cc's being the best and if you think me saying that just by itself is somehow toxic then that's a you problem. I literally can't say it anymore civil than that.

>>103274757 (OP)
CC>GG

Erb is not a hololive talent, shes holostar talent

>>103301564
>comparing is still toxic
God this is the sissiest board

>>103302006
Cry more unicorn

>GG
10/10 kino
>CC
8/10 fun and entertaining, she was adorable
>ERB
Stopped watching as soon as I saw Jutard obnoxious face

>>103274757 (OP)
I think CC pretty much nailed it with her's. The other two could've been better

>>103274757 (OP)
>Gigi
9.5/10
Ton of original ideas, most entertaining 3D I've ever seen. Laughed irl at some parts like the choir, oji-san and general Gigi antics.
Gigi needed one more solo song, and less time spent on the sims bit.
>CC
7.5/10
More traditional 3D debut, ton of good guests. Instrument group SSS cover and was specially good, also liked the ballet choreography.
The first carting bit was too long, and it felt like it was a Biboo 3D, not CC's. Didn't showcase her 3D model enough.
>ERB
5/10
Her singing ability and voice is the sole saving grace, not much to talk about other than that.
Had to close the stream when I saw the homos face and rewatched the parts without them later.

>>103274757 (OP)
>gigi
5/10. A bit too all over the place. Didn't seem to have one solid theme plus the nerissa part went on too long as well as all the grem NPCs.
>Cece
9/10. About as good as she could have got. Karting with girls having a fun contest, carbonated love was basically a music video, and the the violin and instrumental section was right up her ally. Giving emotions to the otomos was a nice inside joke too
>erb
She sings nice :D