Yes nijisanji doesnt bot stream and yes all of their viewers are legit 100%
>>103283318 (OP)even marine and subaru were botted kek
hololive really lose
>>103283318 (OP)>bots vs bots>As if the others were legit.Is there enough proof to prove the others are innocent, then?
>>103284170Well to start not having <3k likes on stream with 60k people is a big plus
>>103284226Another big plus would be having an average CCV that's more than 50.4% of peak CCV
>>103283318 (OP)Just kill yourself, fucking faggot
Everybody is getting botted
Anyone from Niji, HoloLive and HoloStars and whoever from Phase Connect for whatever the real fucking reason are getting botted, have been getting botted and will keep getting botted.
>>103284226>33k ccv 7k likes for 4M subs>30k ccv 8k likes for 1.9 subsDonโt you see bots vs. bots? Do I have to remind you that nobodyโs innocent? Not sure if youโre actually blind or just pretending.
>>103283318 (OP)okay what do you want us to do about this
>>103283318 (OP)This board would improve if all numbertrannies like you would kill yourselves.
You fuckers for the past 2-3 have served no purpose because those who bots streams, even now more than ever, destroy your retarded homosexual general.
Remember when gura got a million subs super fast, and then niji debuted a single talent named juan millionsubs and they got a million subs even faster than gura did? What happened to them?
>>103283318 (OP)sorry, niji just found out the bot holo has been using for years
>>103283764>>103284599Neither of those were botted, look at the charts
>>103283318 (OP)1. 62k ccv max, 160k views, 2.5k likes
2. Cece's looks normal
3. 25k ccv, 100k views, 1.4k likes
4. 30-34k viewers, 13k likes. Probably okay? If there were bots they don't seem to have made a difference.
5. 30k average ccv, 7.5k likes
6. 27-30k ccv
7. 20k average, 200k views, 1.3k likes?
What the fuck is going on over there in japan? Do they have some culture of never interacting with videos or streams, or are bots THIS rampant?
>>103286666The length of the stream should also be taken into consideration.
The number of high ratings is a cumulative total, so if the stream is short, there will be fewer high ratings.
marin-pekora is 15 minutes, and subaru is 2 hours.
On the other hand, I think it is unusual to stream for 6 or 8 hours, exceed 30,000 cvs, and still not get 3,000 high ratings.
>>103286666knowing jap business pratices, those are likely bots. won't be trusting their numbers until youtube addresses the problem, like twitch did. (saying this as thirdie screeching at my ears because their phone plan doesn't include free data on twitch)
>>103286998True, but at the same time those short streams have far higher ratios of interaction.
I can't fathom how a 12 hour stream of 20-30k only ends up with 1.3k likes.
At this point I have to wonder if it's malicious or if this is just the meta now for companies to bot their talents.
>ririka
consistent growing indie that was getting good numbers (much smaller than this), could easily be confused for a holo
>yorumi
niji who had multiple interactions with holo, holofags were worrying she was getting buffed by them
>hayama
common answer when asking holofags if they watch nijisanji
least obvious /#/ falseflag
>>103287577I just realized that those weren't okayu and koyo in the thumbnails.
Man, the botting is even worse than I thought.
>>103287014Poor holokeks, still thinking that she'd be their unicorn queen when she stil does weekly collabs with the homoJPs.
Holokeks will never stop being cucks
>>103288624Mongoloid SEAster, stop outing yourself as an EOP.
I don't even understand the motivation. even if someone's botting, why the fuck would they bot random minecraft and nightreign streams at absolute dead jp hours? why yorumi and hayama who are middle of the pack, non-standout female nijijps?
>>103288916They started botting Hayama back in December.
>why?anycolor loves bullshitting on their reports. Expect them to pretend nijiEN "recovered" when they've been viewbotting that entire branch for 8 months straight.
Niji is straight up a money laundering front.
>>103285814ah a beautiful natural unchanging plateau how normal
>>103287014Regardless of whether her streams were botted or not, her streaming hours and her game selections can't be faked
Look at the Plays/Views (3rd number)
Ccv Average(first number,) and CCV Max(2nd Number)is always less than Plays/Views(3rd number) on legit viewers
For instance Guras Announcement was 180k+285k ccv and 2 seconds after ending there was 515k watches in the watch count
Nijisanji watched count is only 4k vs the 30k ccv as there was no ISP tag on the "watchers" to count
The Hololive Watch count is higher then their ccv on all Hololive listed there as they count total isps that hooked up even for 30 seconds
Nah, Cece's views/watch (3rd Number) is lower then her CCBs
Doesn't mean Hololive or Cece did it, could be a dumb ass fan or anti trying to make her look bad
Or or bots came to watch "their own kind" on their own
All those numbers and no one can defeat this ccv-to-likes ratio
>>103289144They actually already did that in their latest one with "YouTube KPIs improving for the branch"
Gura's Million Subs was from that fucken "Gura is Senzawa" rrat that went Viral between 10/20 and 4/21 in YouTube Recommends( Reddit gave up on something Gura said that contradicted something Senzawa said but try telling that to brain dead fanatics). Senzawa is an alt and she only redebut her main account on Twitch from 7/21-7/24 as Senzawa had been regulated to Twitch Sings Karaoke night or VRChat from 2018-2020 while her main vTuber Account did Just Chatting and Art Streams(looks enough like Senzawa that she was being congratulated for joining Hololive while streaming on her main on Twitch and she would say that she is not in Hololive (Has worked with Hololive, vSohjo,Phase,and Indies as an Artist, is friends with a lot of vTubers including Saba,Dooby,Doki,etc but was never in Hololive)..she helped redirect chumbuds to Saba as it was expected they'd come to her alt
Her CCV was still only like 2.2k with a few thousand views even streaming near 24/7 back then as it was all doom scroll subs from the YouTube recommends push until Selen Tatsuki collabed with Gura and Myth and Counsel with her Apex/Overwatch Clique(Selen,Pomu,Nina,Mika,Aia,Scarle) and Selen's habit of Simulcasting on YouTube,Twitch,Billibilli,Niconico,Afreecatv PT Barnuming Gura and Myth/Counsel to the World and Especially the ESports Bros that just cashed in on Gamestop,Bitcoin,and Dodgecoin
Gura's Post Selen Buff is 6.7k ccv Average, 37k ccv Max, 330k-585k views
Saba is currently doing about 12k-37k ccv, 330k-595k views with those subs a parting gift from Hololive EN and House Warming gift from Indie Spheres...her Kanikies are about 595k not whatever the Subscription is
Likewise the 11k Memberships is already Surpassed by FuwaMocco's 13k Memberships, Ironmouse 37k Paid Subscriptions this year(327k paid subscriptions last year) and Doki climbed up to 9k memberships in 10 months vs Gura's 4k paid memberships last year(#1 vTuber my ass)
Well, Mikeneko made her Silver Play Button in Spite of them, Made her Gold Play Button in spite of them, found a new group of friends (that troupe of VAs and Comedians that failed to make an Agency twice and gave up cause unlike vSohjo they realized they didnt know what the fuck they were doing) that she is doing some kind of variety Show thing with bits (making fun of her haters included) .. there was a clip of her crying with joy cause they were killing her on site in Rust cause she was being an asshole in game(she was accepted in the group and given no slack for her action)
Till this day nobody is making 6 million in Superchat like Russia did.
Aqua had $500k last year, FuwaMocco $400k, Vloe$300k, Dokibird $285k(Ironmouse $800k Gura $900....no not a typo)
>>103291127>>103291499Holy fucking nijibrown cope
>>103285587They stopped paying for bots and her popularity crashed after that
>>103285814holoJP have been getting botted since 2020
>>103291499>found a new group of friendsshe doesn't have a group of friends, just new groups of people she tries to leech for a bit. the same way she was all in with kickers shit and now completely ignores them.
>doing some kind of variety Show thingshe's doing normal gaming streams on twitch
>(making fun of her haters included)The only thing she does about her haters is keep seething and having public meltdowns about them
>there was a clip of her crying with joy cause they were killing her on site in Rustthat may be from last year in which she was harrassed. Being accepted is nonsense, same as kickers shit; at most tolerated.
Very weird comment.
Likes and sub ratio is always shit cause of lurkers that don't subscribe or like (I'm guilty of that)
That 3rd number with the play symbol is total views logged in connected to a Internet Service Provider address
If that 3rd number is lower then Ccv average or ccv Max then the stream was bottled as bot deployments only come from 1 IPS address or a few at best..they can't fool a unqie IPS address counter for the views per thousand for vod watched ad revenue
And seeing the IPS counter and ccv not matching is enough for YouTube to refuse live ad revenue
Not Bots, Doom Scrollers
Subs don't mean shit... especially now with SHORTS where you can Sub from the SHORTS menu without ever going to other videos in Channel or Channel itself them swipe down
Weird Comment? Rust Tournament Harrasment?
Um, the Group would talk before and after going into the Rust Server and the guy that called her a bitch was saying it was just a game and he didn't take anything personally
She was asking if he really hated her and he told her of course not but don't come near him in the game or he will kill her on site
>>103291984>the guy that called her a bitch was saying it was just a game and he didn't take anything personallyyou're retarded. she's still the black sheep and she doesn't have any real collab groups or public acceptance. the ones shooting at her are just the trolls and toxic streamers of the groups, not a version of "tough love". that she was included in a team as a drama bait doesn't mean anything for her status.
>>103292123>that she was included in a team as a drama bait doesn't mean anything for her status.It definitely does mean something for her status.
ITT: Bots arguing with bots on a botted site for bots about botted bots on another bottity bot bot site.
Bots
>>103283318 (OP)>Yes nijisanji doesnt bot stream and yes all of their viewers are legit 100%Japanese viewers are okay with the fact that vtuber streams are botted to absurd levels. Even for a Nijisanji vtuber getting 2.5k likes on a 62k CCV stream is baffling. No one with common sense is going to believe that and they are burning money to boost the numbers in their investor reports.
>>103286666>Do they have some culture of never interacting with videos or streams, or are bots THIS rampant?AnyColor will do anything to convince investors they are growing even if they have to constantly lie about their numbers. Cover is starting to more frequently use bots, especially when they want to hype up certain talents, but CGDCT is enough of a content advantage that it's not common. The main reason they heavily botted ENreco chapter 2 is because they lost viewers because of the EN graduation wave and they wanted to hide the decline from chapter 1.
>>103283318 (OP)>>103287670Indo orc botter reflection thread.
EVERYONE IS BOTTED EXCEPT MY OSHI WAIFU SURPREME HOLOTURDS BECAUSE THEY JUST ARE OK?
>>103283318 (OP)Good.
Every vtuber should be botted so numbertrannies lose what little credibility they have.
If we're lucky, they will then do some self-reflection and kill themselves en masse.
>>103292201she's still a 3views. She was included (for the same reasons) in the same event last year and did nothing for her.
>>103283318 (OP)Not to defend Niji, but there are bots on every corner of the internet these days. Everything is botted. I know le dead internet theory is a tired topic, but you can't deny it anymore.
>>103292492That's what I mean. That's her status.
>>103290163Niji does viewbotting with embeds and Holo uses in house bot farms.
The method Niji uses is extremely cheap and obvious because it doesn't matter they are running a scam company and only want those numbers to trick shareholders.
Hololives method is much more limited in how many fake viewers they can get but harder to detect they probably at max only get a 5-10k boost.
They use this method because they want to be viewed as legitimate while also not looking bad numbers wise to retarded normies who don't understand what is happening in the space.
Basically everyone who is serious in the content creation business engages with viewbotting in some way.
Sponsors viewbot streams, fans viewbot streams, antis who want to call them fake viewbot streams, and the creators pay to get view, sub, and like botted.
>>103292670my goats a random ass FPS 1view twitch fleshie and a roblox youtuber with 10k subs would never