>>103343975yes, i did mean, you, sorry to you and the other anon for mixing up the posts.
now, anon, as someone that's seen how tomboys turn out, they end up as whores too, but now too head strong to be rehabilitated.
what i outlined
>>103343664 isn't to "get laid" or just have sex, but to establish a strong familial structure, built for success for everyone (wife, children, marriage)
submission/obedience aren't just for the well being of the man, but to ensure that there is an established order.
there's no need to demand obedience, if a wife is submissive.
and if she's submissive, she will know she has someone that she can always depend on.
these traits can't be forced, nor should they be done/expected selfishly, they must be done and expected for the love of the spouse (wife loving her husband and husband loving his wife)
if these traits aren't practiced in love, then yes, it will be a very disfunctional relationship/marriage, but if you both love each other, you (husband) will do everything to ensure the security of health, mind and emotional stability of your wife, and she (wife) will do everything to ensure his (your) labor isn't in vain, and bring forth fruit in labor for her husband), while being faithful to him (you)
my post came out a bit harsh, but in reality, i would rather see a loving family, than broken whores and bros.
but the problem isn't fixed with lies and illusions.
tl;dr
without love, we're all trash
with love, shits not so bad