Is Calli gonna die in a few years? People with pulmonary fibrosis usually don’t live very long…

>>103300608 (OP)
nah, i wouldn't allow it.

>>103300608 (OP)
She'll be fine, but jesus christ this is why we need more girls like Liz, and to train the ones who aren't to be like her so these amateurs don't kill their fucking voices.

>>103300689
Pretty sure it was COVID that fucked her lungs up

>>103300608 (OP)
>People with pulmonary fibrosis usually don’t live very long
That is not true. There is a lot of medicine to keep you stable for long time. The problem is since the condition is presented into middle aged and older people there are a lot of years of neglect that make the conditions worse.

vax status?

>>103300689
vocal training against... covid?

>>103300608 (OP)
Not all lung scarring is considered progressive/terminal.

>>103300689
Covid fucked her, so there is nothing she can do.
Sora also has damaged lungs due to pneumonia before her debut and I don’t see her having troubles with her throat like the rest.
Problem is that most Holomems came to Hololive without any training and bad technique.

>>103300897
>>103300793
I meant in a more generic sense to get on a soapbox about avoiding situations like marine/suisei/mumei.
With covid the most you can do is vax, distance yourself, and pray, though.

>>103300608 (OP)
Damn… that sucks. She’ll live a long life though. Should probably quit smoking if she already hasn’t.

>>103300891
Max level of vax
I have heart failure so...welcome to the club Mori. Your rain cloud of impending doom is floating two doors down. Hope you have a good sense of humor about it!

The fuck she talking about?, she doesn't sing for shit, she raps, a completely different school of music and one that's muuuuuuch less technical and stressful on the lungs and vocal chords.

No one expects her to perform like Tay Tay lol

Everyone's blaming the covid virus but not the copious amounts of alcohol and junk food in her diet kek

>>103301067
>smoking
The fuck? When was that a thing? I knew she used to drink a lot, but never heard about smoking.

>>103301084
vax demolished my grandparents
not a pretty death awaits her

>>103300608 (OP)
>black corpo cripples yet another talent by making her record musicals when sick
Surprising to no one at this point...
Weird how indie Vsingers never wind up getting mauled like this, huh?

>>103301270
Anon, they do. Likely far more of indies do than corpos because many of them work too hard without proper rest or training.
>>103300975
Her extreme workaholic tendencies likely didn't help either.

>>103301270
more like nobody notices because nobody knows them
it's the same as everything before internet, everything was still shit but nobody knew

>>103301258
Smoking and drinking go hand in hand, especially for addicts

>>103301198
>copious amounts of alcohol and junk food in her diet kek
Because that doesn't cause these conditions, you seafag.
>Alcohol
This would hit your liver before anything else, why the fuck would it be a lung issue?
>Junk food
You eating pagpag would cause more damage than someone indulging on doritos. Covid is proven to fuck your lungs permanently if you get unlucky.

>>103301270
>it's the corpo fault
Mori Calliope did all this from herself, she does a lot of stuffs because she wants to, not because she's forced.

>>103300975
Sora is a special case though. She trained since childhood so despite her bad medical conditions she can adapt her voice and actually knows her limits.
Calli's bad living habits also contributed to her injuries.

Hey the pagpag eating seaniggers finally made a thread about this!

>>103301020
Still amazing how you have retards only wanting to do the third thing and actual condemn the first two.

i think her obesity is more of a concern than her covid side effects

>>103301584
You should worry more about the microplastics in your pagpag seanigger.

>>103301440
My older cousin is a massive alcoholic but doesn’t smoke

>>103301642
There are literally microplastics in my balls

>>103301642
wtf is pagpag

>>103300897
sounds like something Goku would do
>Gets medicine to prevent disease
>"I didn't feel bad so I just kept training"
>dies.

>posts a 3 year old picture
yeah the seanigger has more plastic in his brain than flesh.

>>103301734
When are you going to update your dox images?

Doctorfag anon here, pulmonary scarring is not the same as pulmonary fibrosis (IPF being the one that commonly affects young women). If anything it's just going to reduce her lung capacity and affect her PFTs, but she doesn't have any significant obstructive or restrictive lung disease like someone with COPD or Cystic Fibrosis has

>>103301734
She don't look like this retard. I know you guys are a 4th world country but you can't be years behind.
>>103301533
Read this carefully:
It is because of covid after effects.
Your living habits WILL NOT scar your lungs. ONLY diseases that attack your lung (Covid for example) can damage it. Even smoking doesn't normally scar it (it can happen though) but she wasn't a big enough smoker for it to be a risk.

>>103301959
wtf is a seanigger? i googled sea and it says south east asian, which would inherently not be a nigger right? I'm a white guy who is genuinely pointing out that being obese is worse than getting covid for health.

>>103302063
Yeah she has explained this before that it is just reduced lung capacity and a small persistent cough. The tweet was just her giving the latest update on it. You just have a thread full of braindead shitposters here who don't care.

>>103302068
>Doubles down on wrong info
You know she doesn't hide who she is right? You could at least use an up to date picture.

>>103302174
He is a seanigger pretending to be white. He doesnt have the brain capacity for that.

>>103302066
>fat girl angle and filters all her photos
s-she not lose weight guys really

>>103302153
Yeah that was mostly in response to OP, it's not like she's going to die in the next 3 years or go on an oxygen machine. She just doesn't have the same capacity for breath control and voice control.

>>103300608 (OP)
Hopefully

>>103301562
The vax sure did a lot for mori and mumei, huh

>>103302246
Actual fatherless seanigger behaviour

>>103302385
thanks for not charging me rent to live in your head

>>103302385
you're arguing with like 3 people at this point, just watch the video of her hanging out with kson. she is fat and that's somewhat recent.

>>103300689
You can't vocal train against getting long covid after being forged to get the short covid vax.

>>103302452
That was 2 and a half years ago

>>103300891
>>>/pol/

>>103302493
here have one of her ID visit which was like 2 months ago

>>103302493
why are you so obsessed with claiming being fat is healthy or something? obesity is an extremely real concern im not trying to just shit on your oshi for no reason, she needs to lose weight

>>103302431
>rent free
very ironic

She must have been really unhealthy to get some damage from a fucking flu lol

>>103301478
>>103301562
>>103301642
>>103301552
Tubby cope lmfao
Lemme guess, CICO is a scam as well?

>>103301478
>burger faggot is trying to argue that a horrendous lifestyle of beer and junkfood doesn't directly cause someone to have a weak immune system, thereby causing covid damage.
my 80 year old grandma had covid and kicked its ass lmao. maybe lay off the deep fried butter, you dysgenic faggots

>>103302603
Why are you so obsessed with using pictures and video from 2+ years ago to prove a wrong point? even that more recent picture above you only shows a relatively thin arm since she is wearing baggy ass clothes.

Amazing how far you retards will go out of your way to talk about literally anything other than vtubers on the vtuber board even in a bait thread about a vtuber

>>103300608 (OP)
why did she get that sick last year? Cover?
The kneew, the extra weight, the lungs now. She is giving it all for her career. Somebody please, give a child asap

>>103302666

>be fat, alcoholic, and hookah addict
>develop health problems
how could hololive do this to her?!

>>103303683
her smoking and drug use probably fucked up her fertility

>>103303852
actually her obesity probably did more dmg then that, also it's not like any nip would actually touch her disgusting body anyways

>>103303683

>>103303796
>>103303852
>>103303893
Mori has been fit since like 2023, basically dropped alcohol since like 2022, and doesn't smoke you dumb SEAmonkeys
>>103302709
>my 80 year old grandma had covid and kicked its ass lmao
Your 80 whore of granny is just lucky ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>103300608 (OP)
The pasta about Ina being the last Myth and continuing streaming long into the future with no one remembering the others and only a few people coming in to watch her draw streams might become a reality.

>>103303960
>basically quit alcohol
so she didn't actually quit? rumao

>>103300608 (OP)
>is death
>is dying
bravo tanigo

>>103304044
Akbar, I know alcohol is haram where you come from, but moderate drinking is what most normal health adults do in the first world

>>103302357
I keep forgetting you actually believe evolution is a hoax too.

>>103300689
I dont think ERB can teach her how to not get sick during a pandemic anon

>>103300608 (OP)
She should do cardio to increase lung capacity.

>>103300793
I hate covid
>get covid
>im fine nothing happened
>oh man i cant smell
>slowly get my smell back
>get covid AGAIN
>this smell doesnt come back
Its been years now, at this point im used to it but it sucks

>>103304121
The amount of obvious seaniggers in this thread is hilarious honestly.

>>103304166
But covid was jsut a hoax anon, your sense of smell isn't actually gone.

>>103303960
>>103304202
My dad had a friend who was a covid denier, all about how its all fake and how exaggerated it is, then the guy gets covid and it gets bad, like bad bad. Ends up a couple of weeks with a breathing machine while he looks at his wife crying while shes talking to the doctor. He described it to my dad like you dont have enough force in your chest to breathe. He made it but the whole experience freaked him the fuck out, dropped the covid denial pretty quick after that.

>>103300608 (OP)
>Is Calli gonna die in a few years?
Why nobody is commenting on this? SEA hours are now the full 24 hours.

>>103304166
this is me but with flavors

>>103300608 (OP)
Bet her bucketlist includes horses.

>>103300793
covid isn't real

>>103304158
It's honestly not really that HUGE of deal tbqh
In abstract it sucks sure, but in reality she able to perform a 22 songs Sololive LIVE, and was less gassed than she was in 2022
So it's not its limiting her ability to perform/do her job or anything

>>103304492
Yeha as far as I can tell the most annoying part is that persistent cough that acts up sometimes, but even that seems to be happening less often.

>>103301510
true cover would never

>>103304327
My uncle was also a denier on a breathing machine, but he denied that covid is real until his death, towards the end he gave the doctors the fault, saying they were killing him to make it look like it was real, well before he couldn't talk anymore and started just looking confused the whole time because of a lack of oxygen.

My aunt leveld up from covid denier to antivaxer after this, which is funny because didn't get it thanks to being vaxed for her job (retirement home) at the time.

>>103302645
This is funny because the flu does the same thing covid does. It just gives you scar tissue on your heart instead of your lungs.

>>103300608 (OP)
Nice. She is becoming a dead beat.

>>103305209
Anon, it was clearly all in his head from absorbing too much liberal propaganda. He should've pulled himself up by his bootstraps and went back to work instead.

>>103300793
You can't get your damaged lung tissue back, but if you weren't trained before you can still "get better" by doing cardio and improving your max stats.

If you had already maxed out your body you are fucked though.

>>103304992
Amazing that Mumei wanted to rest for 4~5 days but Cover forced her to keep streaming and singing oh wait you're a retard

>>103305496
>4-5 days
yep im the retard, keep licking the boot

>>103304456
covids more real than your anime wives

>>103303697
wheres the full picture of this without the meme text?

>>103305524
Kiara said she should have just called her.
This mainly happened because Mumei was a wet towel and when her manager went "Oh...ok....guess the other girls are in trouble then" she folded and did the work.

Kiara said she would have folded the manager instead, but what's done is done.

I'm always shocked how little the girls help each other in general, when Kronii had trouble with her manager Ina was also taken aback that she didn't ask any of her colleagues for help with management.

>>103304166
>oh man i cant smell
But you smell

>>103300608 (OP)
she got vaccinated eh

>>103305524
Damn, you're right, throwing out all my Mooms merch rn

>>103305793
you don't have any, nigger

>>103300608 (OP)
>>103300793
>>103300897
>>103300975
>>103304166
>still believing in “covid”
>in the year of our lord two kay twenty five
no wonder the jews have all but established total world domination
wake up sheeple

>>103305964
Nice try Mossad

>>103302336
Kill yourself

>>103301258
Mori loves hooka and cigars. It’s an oral fixation thing.

>>103300608 (OP)
>Is Calli gonna die in a few years?
Yes, she only has ~60 years left....

>>103300891
So not only are you invested in a nerdy hobby, you're also a fucking retard.

>>103305524
>i had recording
The same recording that are volunteer to apply.

>>103306716
sure thing retard she volunteered to destroy her throat for 2 years straight

>>103304121
clearly isn't working for mori. She found out a way to be fat and alcoholic in the safest country on the planet

>>103306739
Mori did this, so yeah it can happen, even unconsciously

>>103306667
Probably closer to 50. I’m the same age. It’s a sobering thought.

>>103304121
Just because is something "most normal heath adults do", doesn't mean it's healthy.

>talk like a retard, never sound genuine especially when screaming
>fuck up your throat
lmao

>>103302063
I've had my own bouts of pulmonary issues and you're right. Unfortunately, this thread is full of retards who will ignore this so good job for trying

>>103306918
Vtubers should never speak

>>103306918
fuwamoco are in trouble

>>103304121
I don't drink because I don't like the taste of alcohol

>>103306918
Suisei is this.
Her post surgery self can't sing some of her old songs because of that.

>>103302063
Shut up degreetard. Just because you can read some information out of a book doesn’t mean you know what you’re talking about.

>>103304123
No but genetic failures like you existing makes me question it

>>103306918
I seriously can't believe people think her "aaaaaa" is real.

>>103304123
Science still has yet to prove biogenesis despite how much you express your faith

>>103306954
fuwamoco are professional idols, they know how to do it without hurting themselves.

>>103307055
>Actual retard triggered by 4chan post
More news at 11
>>103306918
I feel like Mori only put on a voice for her first year. She pretty much sounds the same as DD so I doubt it’s that.

Her workload is probably a bigger factor.

>>103307144
theyve taken more breaks than anyone else in all of hololive

>>103304166
>get covid
>no loss of taste
>no lung damage
>no long term effects at all
>unvaccinated
I should've taken the vaccine... then the covid would make me STRONGER...

>>103307106
abiogenesis*

>>103307144
>cancel 2 streams a week

>>103307106
Reminder even the Catholic church has accepted Evolution as objective fact. You can stop LARPing.

>>103307162
t. triggered by my post

>>103307171
>Gura

>>103306769
>clearly isn't working for mori.
This doesn't even make sense in the context you're trying to use it ESL GOD
>>103306769
>be fat and alcoholic
Give these two fucking rrats a rest around you dumb Seafag
She gained weight during lockdown and then lost it cause she's not naturally a fatass. Memes about her being an "alcoholic" got rampant that she cut back on drinking to the point where her tolerance is non-existent
YOU. LOST.

>>103307237
It’s the American education system

>>103307205
>>103307237
Spontaneous generation has been disproven many times. You're all retarded

>>103307255
gura didnt cancel streams, she just didnt stream. thats not taking a break.

>>103306918
>>fuck up your throat
>Tweet literally mentions lungs

>>103307255
>not in hololive

>>103307281
Yeah, the department of education forced us to plummet test standards so that minorities can graduate. Sad.

>>103307171
>>103307212
Indeed, that's what i'm talking about.

Taking a break it's essential if you don't want to destroy yourself.

>>103307355
>theyre canceled because theyre destroying themselves

>>103307289
explain where the covid virus originally came from then

>>103300608 (OP)
People with severe obesity don't tend to live very long either.

>>103307375
>be holotuber
>recording sessions
>streaming
>today the voice isn't so good, better take a break
>cancels the streams
It's not that hard anon.

>>103307385
explain where humans came from? checkmate idiot

>>103307385
Well, there's this place called Wuhan...

>>103307447
>fanfic

>>103307476
So why would they cancel the stream?

>>103307427
Good thing she's not obese then

>>103307533
it's in their tweets but that wouldn't fit your narrative

>>103307547
she showcased her obesity in your capital not long ago

Why are you idiots butting head with a troll?
Just fucking report the thread and move on, let him bump his thread in solitude.

>>103307171
Not a rufftard and no offense to my oshi, but if what they are doing has been working, and part of what they’re doing is taking lots of breaks? I see no reason for them to change that.

>>103307584
If she you think she looks obese in of her recent pics then I'm convinced Jakarta is your capital and you're used to be people being <45 kg desu

>>103300608 (OP)
KWAB

>>103307385
Chinese lab with connections to Dr. Fauci’s research into novel coronavirus

>>103300608 (OP)
How many doses?

>>103307550
post it. Go on.

>>103307204
Thats why THEY didnt let you take the vax, you would have been too strong

>>103307144
Nigga they were in a small group years ago, thats like saying your local soccer team made up of working dads are professional soccer players.

>>103307237
Not really, they just said its an allowed position. So they taken no actual stance on it.

>>103304166
To this day I don't know if I ever even caught covid, if I did I was totally asymptomatic.
I did get vaxxed and boostered though. Which also did nothing bad to me.

>>103307828
and directly funded by trump

>>103301092
Hey anon time-warped from 2020, can you please email me and tell me to buy bitcoin

>>103300608 (OP)
Status?

>>103300608 (OP)
And anons were saying Gura overreacted to those parties full of strangers.
Karma.

>>103305209
Damn. RIP bozo. Wait, was he the source of that nurse's testimony about denier patients continuing to deny while on a ventilator?

Who care how fat she is I would still pump her full of baby juice and let one her cuck deadbeats deal with the kids.

>>103300793
We never should have stopped masking, and it should have been N95s on everyone's faces from the beginning. Seriously doubt that anyone on this hellsite is ready to have that discussion, though.

>>103300608 (OP)
Not all lung scarring is Pulmonary fibrosis, Pulmonary fibrosis is only when the scarring keeps spreading.

If she's got a small bit of scarring in some tiny part of her lung, only thing that happens is that tiny part of her lung becomes useless.

>>103309651
how she knows it isn't Pulmonary fibrosis when the doctors couldn't even tell it was covid? I'd get a second opinion from a non jp doctor.

>>103304166
>>103300608 (OP)
its the vax doing that, you retards.

>>103309770
Oh look, we got a live one.

>>103309528
Except in BLM protests, governor dinners and backstage in press conferences. No masks needed there.

>>103309770
>its the vax doing that, you retards
Five years later and you fucking idiots are still everywhere. The US is toast istg

>>103300608 (OP)
Heres hoping she retires

>>103309862
>it's the virus spiking children's heart issues by ten thousand percent...

>>103309851
No, they were needed in all of those places, and still are. Have I established that I'm not a shitlib yet, or do you have some Ivermectin that you'd like to sell me?

>>103309817
>I can't believe all these people are dying when we treated flu symptoms with iron lungs, remdesevir and solitary confinement. How could this be happening?

>>103310033
t. Herman Cain Award dodger

>>103300689
>She'll be fine
Shell be fine

>>103309985
Agreed, just shut down restaurants, make eating outdoors illegal, restrict oxygen to children's brains while they're at school. You can never be too careful!

>>103310079
It wasn't easy. When I got the coof I had to resist going to the emergency room, and just treated it like a flu. Would've been so much easier if I had pipes lodged into my throat and flooded my body with poison.

>>103310137
>just shut down restaurants
For dine in service at the very least, yes.
>make eating outdoors illegal
COVID is aerosolized, which means that it travels through the air like smoke. So yeah, pretty much.
>restrict oxygen to children's brains while they're at school
One of these things is not like the others

>>103310286
>people went to emergency rooms, because their symptom level was "flu"
Damn. So not fair you didn't die. Disgusting oxygen thief.

>>103310079
I'm surprised that they haven't flooded the thread by now

>>103300608 (OP)
>Is Calli gonna die in a few years?
Inshallah brother.

>>103310409
>people went to emergency rooms, because their symptom level was "flu"
Yes, all the fucking time, retard, and even more when every media outlet is screaming that they're going to die.

>>103300793
*the vaxx

>>103310547
>and even more when every media outlet is screaming that they're going to die.
NTA but they quite literally dead

>>103310695
1 million dead in the USA alone, and people continue their bullshit.

>>103310695
From malpractice, yes. Meanwhile I'm alive because I'm not a fucking hypochondriac jewish media drone.

>>103300689
>this is why we need more girls like Liz
Said no one ever

>>103309862
>Five years later and you fucking idiots are still everywhere.
Yeah, unlike the vaxxmaxxers who kicked the bucket LMAO

>>103310786
>1 million dead in the USA alone, and people continue their bullshit.
As soon as Biden said "mask or vaxx", COVID was pretty much over for everyone who'd rather die than suffer inconvenience (which is 99% of Burgerlanders). They were provided all of the excuses and scripts of regurgitatable nonsense that they needed to shut each other's brains off.

>>103311100
>They were provided all of the excuses and scripts of regurgitatable nonsense that they needed to shut each other's brains off.
>>103311100
>Yeah, unlike the vaxxmaxxers who kicked the bucket LMAO
Case in point.

>>103311204
No, it's still rooted in class struggle - petite-booj strive for economic gains, but can't afford ANY regulations, so they oppose them. This overrides every single sense of survival they have.

>>103305739
what a surprise that a bunch of social inept girls are social inept for asking for help...
then you add the "healthy" japanese work culture, that is bad even in the good companies, then you have the girls overworking, not because it is on purpose, but because everyone involved is too autistic to notice the limits

>>103310786
1 million? Cute. How many died from your magic science juice?

>>103311329
Haven't seen it put this succinctly. Thanks, anon!

>>103311329
Please lecture me more about economic gains at any cost, pharma bootlicker.

>>103311437
some people just don't want to rock the boat, so to speak. they all seem to assume everyone else is doing great, and they are the only one with problems, so they don't want to drag others down or burden them with drama

Imagine thinking that it's the average person who is the smart one.
lol

>>103311437
>The suits will try to convince you that you're replaceable. You're not. They are. Realise that, and you can do business.

if her lungs suck, she can just go back to mumblerapping

>>103311941
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCg_EyrD27o

>>103311647
If they're using terms like "petite-booj" then they're not a pharma bootlicker.

>>103311329
>reject untested mystery drug coinciding with spike in heart issues, even if it costs you your job
>THEY PUT MONEY ABOVE SURVIVAL INSTINCTS
Yep, this tracks.
>>103312088
>if they use communist rhetoric they can't be corporate shills
So true

>>103312310
It's SinoVac for me.

>>103312310
>>if they use communist rhetoric they can't be corporate shills
>So true
It's not likely, imo. Their shills usually don't like to draw any attention to class analysis at all. Much safer to keep everyone's attention on red vs. blue bullshit

>>103312709
>red vs blue bullshit
Did you even look at his image

>>103304202
Only a few nutcases believed it was a hoax if at all. It was used as a strawman to discredit any critism about how the covid situation was handled.

>>103312709
>bourgeois don't like to employ communist rhetoric, or blame everything on the petite-bouj aka the middle class

>>103312818
>Did you even look at his image
By all means, post an image of libs doing the same thing at a brunch place. I don't doubt that one exists.

>>103312905
I know some communists who believed it was a hoax to distract from class struggle

>>103313006
>>103312818
The (D)s and (R)s belong in the same mass grave, and that includes Bernie "Yugobomber" Sanders. But at their insistence, I can do two separate ones, but by no more than five meters apart. Better?

>>103312905
>pandemic
>didn't shut down the airports
This was the first red flag and it only got worse from there. It was a giant wealth transfer.

>it’s another “/vt/ magically becomes medical experts who study medicine in their free time & sleep and therefore know more than (You)” thread

>>103313031
Extra-large retards exist in every group.

>>103313157
>don't question the heckin science popes chud, questioning science is unscientific. they wanted to hide the data for 70 years for your own good.

>>103312981
They're both to blame. The bourgeois more so, since they make the final decisions about who gets to eat at the end of the day and what narratives get any attentional resources. The petite-booj are their useful idiots, but by no means innocent

>>103310137
>restrict oxygen to children's brains while they're at school
What brains?
All kids these days just have AI do all the work for them, turning education into a more blatant scam without an ounce of benefit.

>>103313157
Probably better than your Experts™ who didn't consider it important to separate vaccinated and unvaccinated people in their study on heart failure caused by covid, because implying the heart failure was caused by the object of their worship was heretical.

>>103313276
>sure these guys pulled the biggest wealth transfer and medical rights breach in history, but these filthy middle classers who didn't fall for it are just as much to blame
You're boring

>>103313157
How the fuck did this spawn from a damn mori thread.
I hate this board and all of the goddamn tourists.

>>103313248
>>103313519
notice how i didn’t even make my opinion on the vaxx known and yet you mongoloids immediately go ape and assume i’m a mindless sheeple that doesn’t know anything, literally proving my point? i wasn’t saying anything about “listening to the science”, i was saying the amount of people who claim to have mastered science or their own interpretation of suddenly balloons when the coof/vax is mentioned

>>103313817
>notice how i didn’t even make my opinion on the vaxx known
You did actually. Twice.

>entire thread devolves into vax debate because deadbeats can't accept that mori is unhealthy because she makes unhealthy choices

>>103313889
Does being a fat alcoholic cause lung scarring?

>>103313877
show me when

>>103313099
It could still be better. Do you support communist revolution, or are you going to argue for some nonsense like neofeudalism like most anons do at this point?
>>103313130
>This was the first red flag and it only got worse from there. It was a giant wealth transfer.
This doesn't dispose of the need to mitigate transmission of the virus. It does, however, show that communism is necessary.

>>103313817
>people who claim to have mastered science
Where the hell do you people come from?
Go back.

>>103313971
Yes, Excess weight can lead to reduced lung capacity and inflammation. inflammation leads to scar tissue and scarring. As for alcohol, it can make lungs more susceptible to pneumonia and general structural damage.

>>103313522
>You're boring
I support the dissolution of both groups by abolishing private property.

>>103314534
>he tells me to go back to 4chan because he knows im right

>>103313889
There hasn't been a deadbeat tint his thread for 150 posts.

>>103314775
Deadbeats can't be communists? You have a pretty low opinion of Deadbeats.

>>103300689
erb will always be useless and shit

>>103314867
most deadbeats are reasonable and left leaning

she's just preparing a graduation indie grifting arc
her voice hasn't changed at all and she's singing better than she ever has, none of the illness shit is real

>>103300608 (OP)
>Is Calli gonna die in a few years?
Hope so

>>103315091
>thinking about politics is hard and scary, so I'll just assume that everyone who's been fucked up by COVID is lying

>>103315272
I'm more correct than the flow of money dictating these conversations.

>>103315359
There's money in advocating for the abolition of private property? How does that work?

>>103300608 (OP)
is this one of those things where Mori is "sick" but her "other side" streams with ironmouse and is just fine?

>>103315489
I want to see you kikes crucified. You only want to "abolish private property" for people who are better than you

>>103315489
>if we eliminate fiat currency, wealth no longer exists. there is no wealth disparity in communist societies.
Imagine being such a fucking loser you try to indoctrinate weebs on an anime puppet show forum

>>103315572
>I want to see you kikes crucified. You only want to "abolish private property" for people who are better than you
lol and there it is!
surprised that it took until almost post #240 to whip out the old antisemitism. were you hoping to coast on vaccine FUD until the thread gets archived?

>>103315635
>Imagine being such a fucking loser you try to indoctrinate weebs on an anime puppet show forum
Why not? I like the anime puppet shows. I can talk about the anime puppet shows. I and at least one other anon has shown how capitalism causes the fucked-up shit in the world that's happening to the anime puppet shows.

>>103315764
oy vey it's anudda shoa
you're being antisemitic
*fake tears timid pose scissors out to clip a baby penis, other hand on a vial of poison dripping in the well*

>>103304166
took me 2 and a half years to get my taste & smell back anon, there's still hope. for me, everything tasted and smelled awful. peanut butter tasted like gasoline, garlic/onion tasted like ass, coffee tasted like soap. I can now enjoy everything that I used to

>>103300608 (OP)
>obese
>alcoholic
the answer is yes

>>103315869
*Translator's note: capitalism is when governments collude with corporations for global conquest. Communism is something totally different though.
Sure it is.

>>103315914
Aww yeah, blood libel! Playing all the hits!
In all seriousness, though, male circumcision is fucked up and should be banned. Totally doable under communism, btw.

>>103316125
>exclamation points
holy reddit

>>103316125
>I totally agree circumcision is bad, my jewish ideology, communism will stop it goyi-erm I mean comrade

>>103316122
Corporations as you understand them don't exist under communism. Their property has been seized by the proletarian state.

>the vax debate thread now turns into a economics thread
is this still /vt/?

>>103314540
I'll grant you that Burgerlanders make some unhealthy choices that could complicate COVID recovery. I'd say the riskiest thing that they've been doing for the last five years is raw-dogging an aerosolized plague for the last 5 years.

>>103316383
Economics is playing a direct role in the shit that's threatening vtubers' health and livelihoods.

>>103316236
>we don't call them corporations out loud anymore so it's not the same
>we don't use the words class or private property so there's no wealth or power disparity
>if I use female pronouns on a man he becomes a woman

>>103314464
>neofeudalism like most anons do at this point?
I'm not an ancap, no.

>>103316500
>we don't use the words class or private property so there's no wealth or power disparity
We explicitly do use words like class and private property. They're necessary for describing the world as it actually operates.

>>103309817
yeah he's live cus he didnt take the clot shot unlike your walking corpse ass

>>103316644
>we claim that our society doesn't have these things, therefore it has no disparity

>>103316762
Thank goodness for Juche necromancy.

>>103316818
How many strawmen you got back there? Can any of them explain how you do away with disparity while leaving private property intact?

>>103316969
You don't do away with disparity you fucking nitwit. You give people equal merit based opportunity, instead of selling a lie of equal outcome only to widen the disparity between the ruling class and the peasants.

>>103317192
Aw yeah, meritocracy. Gonna put that in the spoon with "it's corporatism, not capitalism" and then it's going right in my eyeballs, baby

>>103317364
That's right, outcome shouldn't be based on merit, it should be based on your political class.

>>103301562
Still amazing how you have retards that think natural immunity doesnt exist and that a vax that didn't stop a single person on earth from getting it and left people with covid cases so bad they got permanent damage is a preventative measure worth pushing. Its tiring arguing with people who get their scientific views from Stephen Colbert.

>>103317489
>That's right, outcome shouldn't be based on merit, it should be based on your political class.
It should be based on need. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" and all that.
>>103317594
>Still amazing how you have retards that think natural immunity doesnt exist and that a vax that didn't stop a single person on earth from getting it and left people with covid cases so bad they got permanent damage is a preventative measure worth pushing. Its tiring arguing with people who get their scientific views from Stephen Colbert.
This reads like you're having a stroke. Put this post back in the oven, it's not done yet.

>>103300608 (OP)
IM is still alive so probably not

>>103317892
Complaining that you dont know how to read is not a convincing counter argument. try again.

remember when deadbeats would brag about how mori would never get sick?

>>103317594
I can't even tell whether you're pro vax or antivax. For the love of god, use punctuation.

>>103317892
That's right, the ruling class "needs" all those mansions and antiques and yachts. No disparity here. The heart surgeon and sewer worker earn just as much as a bureaucrat, so there's no disparity in their quality of life.

>>103300608 (OP)
She'll be fine.

>>103318159
The fact that you cant tell my stance has nothing to do with punctuation you fucking retard, its because I'm not conforming to your strawman of no booster = flat earther.

I believe in you, you can read a single sentence and understand it if you try hard enough.

>>103317594
>nearly 50 words without a single comma
god damn

>>103318166
>That's right, the ruling class "needs" all those mansions and antiques and yachts.
Who's arguiing that, you?

>>103318366
Yes, because your breadtubers never say that part out loud, they only show it.

>>103318350
>3 posts complaining about a lack of a comma, no actual arguments
you do realise that once you resort to being a grammar nazi you've completely lost the argument

>>103318460
bro, i'm not arguing for anything, i can barely tell what that post was trying to say

>>103300608 (OP)
Yes.
She will still continue working for Hololive afterwards.
She will outlive the entire entertainment industry along with Kiara, Kronii, ERB, Shiori and DSP.

>>103317594
This lacks punctuation, but if you can't read it you're either ESL or at a grade school reading level.

>>103300689
Whoever trained Liz should be ashamed of themselves. It's amateur hour when your biggest vocal strength is just being loud and belting like you're at bar karaoke.

>>103318710
thanks for using punctuation now

>>103318573
here ill bullet point it for you like the little baby you are, be sure to read slowly and carefully this time, wouldn't want to short circuit your brain.
1) the vaccine doesnt stop you from getting covid
2)it didn't stop anyone from getting covid (including you)
3)it evidently didn't stop mori from getting such a severe case it fucked up her lungs
4)if calli already had covid, as did the entire rest of the western world why the fuck would they need a useless jab when they at minimum have natural immunity (which in almost all cases is better than artificial)
5)why in 2025 is anyone listing taking that jab as a worthwhile preventative measure?

ontop of this, vaccines for rapidly evolving corona viruses are mere guesses at what strain will be prevalent in the next wave so half the time they are completely fucking useless (intop of an already useless jab). I'm going to completely ignore the side effects since it'll probably trigger you.

6) stop getting your scientific worldview from dumb fuck American comedians

>>103318459
Breadtube is Shitlib City. Go to the source.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXUFLW8t2sntNn5jQO8vF7ai9x0fna3PV
>>103318920
>1) the vaccine doesnt stop you from getting covid
Okay, I'm with you so far.
>2)it didn't stop anyone from getting covid (including you)
Repeat of point 1.
>3)it evidently didn't stop mori from getting such a severe case it fucked up her lungs
Yeah, it's not 100% at stopping Long COVID.
>4)if calli already had covid, as did the entire rest of the western world why the fuck would they need a useless jab when they at minimum have natural immunity (which in almost all cases is better than artificial)
And now we've reached the point where you've started to pull stuff out of your ass. The fucker shreds T-cells and mutates too quickly for your natural immunity to count for shit.
>5)why in 2025 is anyone listing taking that jab as a worthwhile preventative measure?
Because it has been shown to reduce the severity of acute stage symptoms, i.e. the shit that lands you in the hospital.
Not a word in your post about stopping transmission (N95 masks, air filtration, etc.) Why is that?

>>103318159
>>103318346
>"I can't understand what you typed"
>"NO I WON'T CONFORM TO YOUR FLAT EARTHER STRAWMAN"
/vt/ is objectively the funniest board and no one can convince me otherwise

>>103300608 (OP)
now imagining a handjob from callis pulmonary fibrosis club fingers

You guys still have covid?

>>103319736
I'd take a footjob if she offered one. She's cute, and I bet she's got strong, agile dancer feet now.

>>103307144
>Mocothroat

>>103319673
You have no idea what long covid even is, Its a random list of symptoms many of which encapsulate known side effects from the jab, what causes it? The jab? the virus? being a fat fuck with a shitty immune system? probably all of them, the degree to which you can blame any one is unknown because scientific research on this matter was not encouraged. data on "long covid" incidences among unvaxxed vs vaxxed were not collected by government bodies because they didn't give a fuck.

> The fucker shreds T-cells and mutates too quickly for your natural immunity to count for shit.
this is a completely retarded statement, the virus is not mutating into a completely alien strain as you fight it, this is a freak occurrence that happens over millions of infections and millions of tiny mutations as it passes through million of people. Any type of immunity that results from a jab will be a shitty version of what unvaxxed people got from fighting it naturally.

>Because it has been shown to reduce the severity of acute stage symptoms
yes, just like how it was 95% effective at preventing infection oh wait then it was 92%, oh 82%, oh 67%, uhh i mean 40% uhhh never mind it doesnt stop it at all. But it was good for stopping transmission! oh wait never mind. sure is nice when the pharmaceutical companies are the only people grading their own homework.

>Not a word in your post about stopping transmission (N95 masks, air filtration, etc.)
Because wearing n95 masks everywhere and putting them on 5 years olds is completely fucking retarded and wouldn't work, if you dont want to die from an illness as light as covid then stop being a fat fuck.

Turns out filling your lungs with random powders ruins them in the long run, what a surprise !

>>103302493
... and when did Covid happen, exactly ?

>>103300608 (OP)
This kind of shit should not be mentioned in their holo account. This has nothing to do with vtubing.

>>103320466
5 years ago
2012 was 13 years ago

>>103319734
>I cant tell if you're black or white on this issue!
The fact that you even think there's a black or white indicates that you think vaccine scepticism is a hard binary pro vs anti/conspiratorial stance.
>oh my god he said flat earth and we weren't even talking about flat earth!
Taking everything 100% literally is a sign of autism. If you want to continue pretending like you're a retard who cant comprehend a sentence if it lacks a comma then stop talking to me, I dont like arguing with disingenuous morons.

>>103320538
>ability to perform and stream is significantly hindered
>has nothing to do with vtubing
retard

>>103320280
>You have no idea what long covid even is, Its a random list of symptoms many of which encapsulate known side effects from the jab, what causes it? The jab? the virus? being a fat fuck with a shitty immune system? probably all of them, the degree to which you can blame any one is unknown because scientific research on this matter was not encouraged. data on "long covid" incidences among unvaxxed vs vaxxed were not collected by government bodies because they didn't give a fuck.
Brain damage is a common long-term symptom. Eliminate all of the rest and you should have more than enough reason to never want to get this shit. https://www.livescience.com/covid-19-shrinks-brain
>> The fucker shreds T-cells and mutates too quickly for your natural immunity to count for shit.
>this is a completely retarded statement, the virus is not mutating into a completely alien strain as you fight it, this is a freak occurrence that happens over millions of infections and millions of tiny mutations as it passes through million of people. Any type of immunity that results from a jab will be a shitty version of what unvaxxed people got from fighting it naturally.
>>Because it has been shown to reduce the severity of acute stage symptoms
>yes, just like how it was 95% effective at preventing infection oh wait then it was 92%, oh 82%, oh 67%, uhh i mean 40% uhhh never mind it doesnt stop it at all. But it was good for stopping transmission! oh wait never mind. sure is nice when the pharmaceutical companies are the only people grading their own homework.
I said acute stage symptoms, not transmission.
>>Not a word in your post about stopping transmission (N95 masks, air filtration, etc.)
>Because wearing n95 masks everywhere and putting them on 5 years olds is completely fucking retarded and wouldn't work, if you dont want to die from an illness as light as covid then stop being a fat fuck
It does work. I've done it. Five year olds can also do it. Babies, less so, but that's why us grown-ups should be expected to wear them since we're responsible for their well being and everything. The less of us that get it, the smaller the chance of them getting it.

>>103300608 (OP)
Crazy that it doesn't feel like she achieved much since Mori has always been a garbage singer-songwriter. Try again in your next life I guess.

>>103319673
>it has been shown to reduce the severity of acute stage symptoms
How? Their own narrative is that the coof affects everyone differently, meaning they literally can't control for it. They have no way of knowing whether the vax made a difference and how, even for repeat sufferers because they developed an indeterminate amount of natural resistance. As soon as they changed the definition from "immunity" to "protection," all science went out the window.

>>103320670
kek, wow what a giant coincidence that brain damage is also a side effect of the jab since the lipid nano particles are so small they pass through the blood brain barrier
>We propose that vaccine-induced spike protein synthesis can facilitate the accumulation of toxic prion-like fibrils in neurons
what is responsible? who knows, who even wants to know, the government certainly doesnt.
>I said acute stage symptoms, not transmission.
missed the point entirely. All those statistics you're quoting are bullshit and have always been bullshit. The research is being done internally at the pharmaceutical company that is then selling this product to governments for gigantic profit.

>It does work. I've done it. Five year olds can also do it.
No they cant you fucking retard, you cant get every single toddler on earth to wear a tight ass mask that restricts their oxygen flow for months at a time. if the kid gets sick the parents get sick, if the parents get sick everyone gets sick. you either live like a prisoner for the rest of your life or accept that this illness is going to spread. I've had covid twice, it was less severe than the flu, my 80 year old grandma was fine, this is not something worth shutting down your society permanently for.

Please live.

>>103307693

>>103303960
>Mori has been fit since like 2023
TOPKEK! The American definition of "fit", ladies and gentlemen

>>103326461
Holy shit I’m like a hundred pounds overweight.

>>103300608 (OP)
Yes I'm afraid it's terrestrial.

>>103326674
Did you see her yeet Kronii in 3D today?

>>103309916
You know how this goes...
>vax bad
>why bad?
>[made up stats]
>proof?
>do your research bro

>>103300608 (OP)
Yes, she will die in a few years. Most of us will in fact. People keep acting like covid was a nothinburger, honestly the original Wuhan strain wasn't even so bad. But everyone panicked and listened to the retards, who mandated forced vaccination during a pandemic, which put pressure on the virus to adapt. Now most people will develop early lifelong chronic disease if theyre lucky, if theyre not lucky they will straight up die from cardiovascular disease and cancer. "Immune refocusing", look up and read the works of Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, Japan used mostly mrna vaccines which makes it worse for Mori and all japs, not like the other vaccines werent bad but mrna was specially bad.

All the other sickly chuubas, and your neighbors, and the rising rates of "mental illness", obesity, cancer, all the good stuff are directly tied to this.

>>103300940
It kind of is when you become unable to develop complete and longlasting immunity against a recurrent virus.

>>103304166
So you literally have to imagine the smell?

would be a Godsend for hololive

>>103304327
How does that happen? I know hundreds of people who all got covid multiple times, including old fat unhealthy people, but all of them recovered easily in less than a week. None of them were vaxxed.

>>103328107
It doesn't, anon.
That guy's a nut.

>>103328107
The ones who died aren't around to talk to you.

>>103328356
I knew them from before covid was a thing.

smells like sunk cost cope ITT. you got duped by big pharma, there's no shame in that. plenty of normal people get duped by them every year, you're just not the main character nor as smart as you thought you were.

>>103328451
Naturally, you kept tabs on hundreds of people for years and made sure to talk to each and every one to make sure that they are still around. If that is really true, I guess you'll also want us to believe that you have time for a full time job. Doubt.

>>103326875
Kronii is a tiny korean girl have you fucking seen her? She looks like a child

>>103305964
t.CCP shill

>>103326461
I'm hard capped at 185, go on without me 5'11" bros

>>103328555
???
My close relatives alone are more than 50 people I keep up with.

>>103326461
This chart is for fatties, it doesn't even go below 120 lbs.

>>103309454
No, he died in Switzerland, I think he one you are talking about was in the UK or US.

>>103311437
This is also how FF14 dawntrail flopped.
YoshiP went to work on FF16 and his right hand man took over the same unholy workload without telling anyone it was too much. Until people noticed it was already too late and the end result was shit all around.

>>103329258
I thought Dawntrail was great. I love talking to Wuk Lamat. Such an interesting character.