>your one and only gimmick is singing
>the two shittiest singers from your generation made an original song before you

>nerissa
>debut date: 31 July 2023
>EP out by 7 august 2024 with 4 original songs
>373 days

>erb
>debut date: 21 June 2024
>one TV size song for her twitch roleplay
>473 days and counting

>>103316196 (OP)
Unironically concerts.
At this point I expect her to get a sololive because they're so desperate to use her voice that they even wheeled her 2D out to concerts.

>>103316196 (OP)
Quality over quantity.

>>103316196 (OP)
And she claims to be LEADER of justice...... I think she was hoping to be given a label record like Calli just for being in Hololive.

>>103316196 (OP)
>>the two shittiest singers from your generation made an original song before you
She literally has an original but "people" on this don't count it for shitposting purposes

>>103316314
>that they even wheeled her 2D out to concerts.
People keep forgetting this.

>>103316323
Anon, out of anybody left in EN, she's the most likely one to actually get that.

>>103316196 (OP)
>manage to insult ERB, CC and Raora in one single post
You are an amazingly unpleasant person

>>103316221
Yeah, Erb is a grifter alright. I wanna bet she will graduate next year just because. The thing with holo is that if you wanna make it big, you gotta spend alot of time and money and it appears Erb doesn't wanna do that.

the money is elsewhere

>>103316314
what's a erb concert like?

>>103316401
all signs show a lack of interest in making it big, same as shiori

>>103316429
Unfortunately there's no footage since it was at SOAR, which didn't have streaming tickets and didn't allow recording but I know afterwards a bunch of people who went were raving about her rendition of Snake Eater.

>>103316401
>>103316459
just a roundabout way of saying they resent their fans, which is true

>>103316196 (OP)
Why are you seething over her? just go watch the other 3 or get a life

justice is 3 member gen

>>103316615
she makes justice look bad

>>103316196 (OP)
remember how they tried hyping this kek. i hate her singing she always does that thing where she draws out a note for far too long

>>103316692
Only in your peabrained skull

>>103316692
She's the only one in the gen who can sing.

>>103316677
Where is Gigi original song?

>>103316196 (OP)
They hired her for the express purpose of showing up in collabs you don't want her in to ruin them for you

>>103316314
I'm going to rape Yagoo if ERB gets a sololive before IRyS

>>103316776
it's a fact that everyone clearly sees, justice would have a better reputation without her, they do more without her together than she bothers doing back and everything she does do is mediocre and unoriginal, she doesn't fit justice at all

>>103316891
she sings poorly, like a choir kid that would never make it in any creative endeavor

>>103316987
Better get that lube ready.

>>103316916
Well, that's one thing she's doing a good job at
Every time I'm forced to hear her say "what the frig" I die a little inside

>>103317103
https://youtu.be/wE7eeeTDZRs?si=5606B38hdttjMysx
can't wait till you're dead.

>>103316991
>she sings poorly
This is such cope lmao
I'll never understand why faggots on this board feel the need to pretend that people they don't like can't every be good at anything

>>103316358
link it

>>103316677

She still hasn't made fan mascot. How hard is it to make some rose/knight/blue flame theme ball?

>>103316730
that's not even a song, what are you talking about?

>>103317103
I simply close the stream whenever she shows up. I'm not listening to that

>>103316991
holy seethe

>>103318080
This is the clearer sign that she doesn't give a shit.

>>103317893
wait a minute none of them said that

>>103316196 (OP)
To arouse me specifically with her outrageous hagtits. Kill yourselves.
>>103318053
Except you.

>>103318170
Idk the picture tells me they said it so they said it

>>103316891
True she can sing but it's so forced and pushed. It's strange, when she sings it doesn't feel like it's for you and more like she just likes to show off voice and range. Then given that she almost never streams makes her not as beloved like IRyS or Gura, great singers and well loved.

>>103318080
>>103318153
Suisei...

>>103316991
>doesn't fit justice
actually ERB doesn't fit Hololive or being a vtuber in general

>>103318272
>It's strange, when she sings it doesn't feel like it's for you
Cuz it's not. It's for her.

>>103316991
Are you retarded

>>103317999
It's a TV size song she uses for the ending of her Twitch roleplay streams
https://youtu.be/e9rY7slCeOw

>>103318080
Not every talent has a fan mascot. It's not a requirement.

>>103318080
Dooby doesn't even have a fanbase name.
Girl really got a 3D concert before deciding her fan name.

>>103316196 (OP)
Nepo hire from star en

>>103318730
this is nothing compared to nerissa >>103316221

>>103318983
If stars EN could nepohire, they would've grabbed Doki.

>>103316196 (OP)
ERB (14 works)
>debut cover - 1,7m
>AB - 5,4m (+424k eastern version)
>SA - 853k
>BB cover - 264k
>3 Christmas covers - 129k (for all 3 covers together)
>SH cover - 331k
>Homocover -1,2m
>Nerissa cover - 723k (botted)
>Odyssey - 2,2m
>love song cover - 660k
>Renegade -730k

Gigi (14 works)
>debut cover -1,3m
>AB - 5,4m (+424k eastern version)
>monster - 602k
>birthday cover - 896k
>Roara cover - 519k
>2 Autofister covers - 799k + 649k
>SH cover - 331k
>odyssey - 2,2m
>kyukurarin cover - 544k
>Hai Yorokonde cover - 1,5m
>Renegade - 730k
>Monitoring - 32k

ERB total: 14.350k
Gigi total: 15.926k

Meanwhile
>Cc orisongs: 1
>Raora orisongs: 1
>ERB orisongs: 0
They are all doing music better than "the music hire"

>>103318992
Agreed. I'm not the anon that you originally responded to, I just thought I'd link it since he refused to

>>103319071
So... how many concert appearances did the other 3 have so far?

>>103319071
Holy yap

>>103316539
She only sing in one way so I can imagine she just roared on stage like usual

>>103316891
She doesn't even try to learn new way to sing, she thing her way of roaring loudly will work all the time with all song. So I gave up on her. I admit she has a really strong throat btw

>>103319306
Yeah, she can only sing in the popular way that makes /vt/ seethe apparently.

>supposedly best singer
>tries to scat in every single fucking song

>>103316891
Gg can be endearing if she want to, like ina but sweeter. Rare but kind of precious

>>103319379
Better than the J-Pop slop way

>>103319414
Learn what a solo is

>>103319421
GG's singing is the equivalent to shoving needles in my urethra. Anyone who likes her singing is deaf.

>>103318472
Exactly this. She'll never rise above those who can adapt to different songs

>>103318730
so not a real song, got it

>>103319490
There are other things she can do that don't ruin songs.

>>103316196 (OP)
give her 4 years to go through a mori cycle and then everyone on this board will pretend she was always their favorite

>>103319490
Not every song is jazz, Liz.

>>103318983
>nepohire
retard

>>103319557
she lacks a lot of things that Mori has

itt: rosarians scrambling to defend erb because for once she was legitimately not criticized for male collabs so their unicorn strawman doesn't work

>>103319197
>mfw i am with fact so i cannot respond with something else

>>103319681
I see complaining about her voice, which is just a lie and cover obviously disagrees.

>>103319379
Isn't that a noble cause for her entire existence? Petty quarrel against mongolian basket weaving forum will bring her fame and money, she look like the type that really think so

>>103318477
she may have gotten one before the concert but nimi had to force the concert to happen asap to get the grift before the lore drop

>>103319442
Honestly, the sad takeaway from /vt/ is that they only want people to sing in one specific way rather than branching out into different musical genres.
She fills a ton of gaps in Holo's coverage and is absolutely gonna be center stage in a lot of concerts. If her 3D karaokes are anything to go off of, she's gonna be incredible.

>>103319627
>close contact with homo before and after debut
They fear me cuz I told the truth

>>103319753
It's a miserable existence to sing in a popular way?

>>103319740
the original post wasn't even about her singing skill, it was about her song output. they had to pivot because she is proven to be objectively unproductive compared to her peers.

>>103319848
the last time there was a nepohire was Gamers, retard

>>103319740
>is just a lie and cover obviously disagrees.
Proof?

>>103319557
I still hold a grudge against mori for what she did to my oshi. She doesn't seem to forgive mori, and so do I

>>103319910
>the last time there was a nepohire was Gamers, retard
>What is Sana
>What is La+

>>103319907
>>103319931
Again, anon.
How many concerts were her peers in so far?

>collabs with males
>/vt/ out in full force to anti
Never change

>>103319997
>moving the goalpost AGAIN

>>103319910
Explain riona then

>>103320048
>concerts aren't song output
I accept your concession

>>103320014
>she collabs with male chuubas therefore she is beyond criticism

>>103320134
>My criticism of she should die for collabbing with males needs to be addressed and taken seriously

>>103320075
She didn't sing an original song (which is the entire point of this thread), and singing a cover in 2D at a concert is equivalent to singing them in a karaoke stream, so you're right, they're not.

>>103320169
You are literally the only one in this thread that's said that

>>103316987
The Crimson Nephilim crumbles at the face of true talent

>>103320075
>>concerts aren't song output
That's correct. They aren't

>>103320192
>singing a cover in 2D at a concert is equivalent to singing them in a karaoke stream
You know, except for the fact that she's at a concert and people paid to be there.

>>103320320
OK, still isn't equal to actually releasing a song

>>103316196 (OP)
Doesn’t stream, doesn’t collab, karaoke re broadcasts only

>>103316314
>>103319997
>>103320075
you keep saying concerts like it's a gotcha and that other EN singers weren't subject to the same.
calli had an original song out at debut when cover's support for EN is paper thin.
irys released Carbonated Love not even a year after project hope's closure.
how many of their peers' concerts were they in?

>>103320359
If you say so, anon.
If you can find any examples of other girls getting roped into paid hololive concerts before receiving 3D, I'd love to know about them.
Clearly she's cooking something.

>>103319855
So she's the Justin Bieber of Hololive
Cool cool

>>103316314
>At this point I expect her to get a sololive
What is this joke? You need an album for a sololive, good numbers, high spotify streams, good CCV, high album sales and someone willing to sponsor. ERB has literally non of that

>>103320014
It's hilarious, if she was unicorn friendly you know for a fact anons wouldn't be pulling out their lists of everything they hate about her while insisting it's totally not about homos.

>>103320417
Why are you so desperate to push this concert when the entire point of this thread is original songs and ERB's lack of them?

I've said this before ERB debuted and it basically came true now: management needs to treat ERB's music output differently instead of just doing the same things with her and calling it a day if they expect her music to do well. Not special treatment per say, just different. The easiest way would be to find some up and coming Western lyricist/producer to work with her on coming up with original songs, because her voice and style of singing is so different than the others that just putting out JP music covers wasn't going to cut it. The covers through distrokid somewhat alleviates the issue but it's just really not the same and also she honestly had terrible choices for songs there too so probably her fault there. Before you say cope and say her music wouldn't have done well regardless, ERB is probably the only person ever in holo where her karaoke covers did better views than MVs on her original channel.
https://youtu.be/hohMZgYigBQ - 1.7M
https://youtu.be/4S481KPPXZ4 - 1M
https://youtu.be/6lDTCrUzvhQ - 970K
Not karaoke but also worth mentioning
https://youtu.be/vGDznl7PAFI - 1.6M
None of those clipper channels are very big, and in fact, all four of those clips are the biggest viewed video on their channel. Clearly the demand is there, it's just the supply hasn't and she with the help of management needs to fix that in year 2.

>>103320722
>https://youtu.be/hohMZgYigBQ
She fucking butched this song btw. I dunno why people like this. Her whole belting shit ruined the song. Why not sing the song like intended? Respect the song and it respects you. But no, had to ruin it instead

>>103320659
Mostly because I don't care about the topic and it's fun to watch you desperately try to hard focus in on one specific type of song.
>>103320722
This is something I'm actually hoping they don't fuck up. She excels in english songs and she needs that to actually reach people, but I also can see cover completely failing to capitalize on that and watching her collapse just like they did with IRyS and Nerissa.
I still can't understand how they ended up flubbing those two. IRyS' PL has a cover that has more views than some entire holomem channels, and Liz's PL has one that's even double that.

>>103320839
I like her singing most of the time, but I feel the exact same way about the version of September she sung.

>>103320839
You don't have to sing the song like the original for it to be a good cover. There's probably other examples, but the most famous one is of course Whitney Houston's I Will Always Love You being a cover of a Dolly Parton song. Don't take this as me saying that ERB is like Whitney Houston at all, I'm just giving an example of how a cover being different than the original didn't ruin the song even if it probably depends on your taste of music

>>103320933
Well for IRyS that's because she sung a pretty popular anime OP and sung it so similar to the original singer that a lot of people thought she was the original singer

>>103320629
it's almost like male collabs is just a symptom of a larger issue, but you homobeggars are too narrow-minded.

>>103319954
Is your oshi kiara

>>103320839
Because it's karaoke

>>103321035
>You don't have to sing the song like the original for it to be a good cover.
While you are right, it is also possible to completely ruin a song by giving your own spin to it. Not everything works with belting as if it is a Disney song, Adele or Christina Aguilera. Viva La Vida is one of those songs. You can ruin it very easily by desyncing. ERB's belting in this song does not fit the genre, the aesthetic and the text of the song. And worst of all, it was out of rhythm. Her belting went against the music

>>103321120
Yeah, the larger issue of you being an insecure manbaby.
>>103320722
>Not karaoke but also worth mentioning
>https://youtu.be/vGDznl7PAFI
This one is funny because Mint was so entranced with ERB's voice and fangirling so hard she messed up her own portion of the song. She redid it in another karaoke later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VCkRoyK3pw&t=3466s

But seriously, how did they fuck up Nerissa and IRyS like this? If they're not spamming songs out of cover's new label, then the company's music dreams honestly deserve to fail.

>>103321456
>If they're not spamming songs out of cover's new label, then the company's music dreams honestly deserve to fail.
Nerissa has already co-released 2 songs under the label retard.
>Override
>Genesis
And atleast 4 more are coming

>>103321499
That's encouraging at least.

I know she's boring but just because her 3D live had "drama" doesn't mean we need to start making threads about her like she's Shiori or something. She is genuinely not worth the energy.

>>103321456
do you have any other tricks other than erecting your unicorn strawman? maybe a statistics of how many concerts erb is invited to?

>>103316991
Then imagine how bad the rest of justice is, if she's that bad at singing

>>103321107
NTA, but this has been bugging me ever since. So many tone deaf faggots confuse the two, like it's so easy identify which is the original. I kept wondering why they keep playing the "original" even though she sounds NOTHING like Kana.

>>103320263
let's ignore the unperson'd Justice edits

>>103321906 (me)
I hear the first two syllables and I immediately know which is which, how can these retards not know. Im fucking seething. I wanna kill these niggers.

The only people I've ever met who like Liz are women/lesbians

>>103322055
You don't talk to women

>>103322247
kek

>>103322055
>anon casually mentions that he cheats on his oshi
The ABSOLUTE state
But yeah, what this >>103320722 anon said, she needs to be allowed to flourish in a different direction, music genres wise. I could see western songs like "Hit the road, Jack" or even jp songs like "Flyers" by Bradio doing well compared to the usually entertained songs. Management needs to nudge her in a different direction.

>>103324307
The peak that is Flyers cover, I'll unironically kneel to her if that ever happened.

>>103320417
>If you can find any examples of other girls getting roped into paid hololive concerts before receiving 3D, I'd love to know about them.
fuwamoco for Taiwan super karaoke party

>>103316196 (OP)
To make /vt/ trannies seethe uncontrollably. Worked like a charm.

>why the fuck do they even hire this lazy bitch?
Is English the official 2nd language of this board?

>>103316395
Grems are all underage, it can't be helped

>>103316891
You're not allowed to be talented in Hololive

>>103316991
Ah the Hololive fandom, where we pretend that 70 of the other talents don't exit...

>>103318472
>OP is the strongest Mintbeggar
Of course

>>103320192
>>103320192
>>103320359
https://youtu.be/e9rY7slCeOw?list=RDe9rY7slCeOw

>>103319681
Right, so you have to lie about why we're supposed to hate her so you can keep your hugbox going

>>103322055
That's funny, because those are Liz's antis too (namely femcorns and the rest of oomfcord)

>>103324509
Right!? That song popped into my head when I heard her voice, it's a match made in heaven. I kinda hopped that she would've singed and somewhat mimic the hand gesture of Death Parade's op's start. Or any other "power" songs. Throw a "You give love a bad name" or a "Warriors" by Imagine Dragons and you're playing in her zone. Though I'm not sure of Hololive's relationship with the western music market and if songs like those are possible...

>>103324818
You mean the one they got suspended for showing up unable to sing for?

>>103319071
Cope lmao

>>103321499
>Genesis
I don't think gen song should be counted

>>103316196 (OP)
I think she’s cute. I’d consider myself lucky if she became my baby mama.

>>103326055
Indogs argue with flips on a godforsaken shit-flinging forum, while the rest of the world just cheers for their oshis

>>103320722
I wouldn't be surprised if she's secretly working on a full album. The whole situation stinks of Goku about to drop the Genki dama. I personally find Erb's voice exhausting to listen to but people do seem to like it and it's undeniable her singing has impact that would dazzle a first time listener. I think they're scheming something

>>103316677
"Just us"

>>103327466
Romantic

>>103316196 (OP)
Just let her cook.
Seriously if that was a problem for Cover, they would just kick her out.
You guys are making up problems.

>>103316987
Keep seething

>>103321035
You absolutely do have to sing the song like the original to be a good karaoke cover, especially if the premise is the original song was good. It's not hard to improve a song by doing a wildly different version but those wildly different versions are also different in the arrangement and speed and instrumentation used, etc. Not just the singing.

>>103330153
>You absolutely do have to sing the song like the original to be a good karaoke cover
You're just making up rules right now.

>>103330153
You are retarded. Id ask if you've ever done karaoke for fun but you probably haven't even been out of the basement in the last decade. The whole point is to pretty much fuck around and do whatever you want, doesn't matter how you feel about the tone of the song or whatever

>>103330185
Karaoke is literally playing the real song in the background while you sing along. Good karaoke literally tracks your vocals and scores you. It's not even the same thing as actually doing a cover. Someone doing a cover of a popular song on their guitar is by nature changing the song with their guitar playing and their singing now has to align with their playing rather than with the original song.

>>103326261
Isnt oomfcord perma cooming over her tho? Like maddie and eli are paid actor tier

>>103318927
Waitlings.

>>103330299
The whole point of Karaoke is having fun, anything else is just made up. If the performance is good i don't care if it's not like "the original", also i don't remember if it was ERB herself or another member, but i heard from them that they prefer to do something more personal rather then following the original song because they then want you to check the OG anyway.

Erb is a known quantity. They hired her because she's an established VA. They don't need her to churn out original songs when she's better at covers. She doesn't need to prove her value to cover.

>nobody homo
>drops 5 original songs on debut

Cover should have hired Mint over ERB

>>103330423
i'm glad you don't work for Cover

>>103319529
How is it not a real song?

The only people that like Liz are people that don't watch Hololive or Justice. I don't even understand why she's in this gen. Yagoo should just be like, "Fuck yo contract, actually we want someone that streams regularly and respects unicorns. See ya, bitch!"

>>103330623
>The only people that like Liz are people that don't watch Hololive or Justice
Imagine thinking like this unironically. Liz single-handedly made me interest in "Idol stuff" for Hololive. She's great i don't even mind she doesn't stream so often, there are other girls i could watch anyway.

>>103330153
>>103330299
In this context:
>karaoke = vtuber sings the song; quality is not as important as it is hearing your oshi sing
>cover = actually trying to properly sing the song; high production value is expected
No one would ever invite you to karaoke if you're this autistic aboun bening aspects

>>103330418
Apparently CC sang the song he composed in her 3d debut.

ITT Unmedicated pathological self-importance and delusion

what the fuck happened to /vt after the break? the amount of esl ramblings and sister exploded

>>103316401
ERB's only goal is to shill the homos as much as possible.

>>103316196 (OP)

>>103326463
>facts are cope

>>103330397
Then why doesn't she deliver covers? Where is her post 3D cover?

>>103331151
>if you collab with this person then you're shilling them!

>>103330707
>Liz single-handedly made me interest in "Idol stuff" for Hololive.
How? ERB does not embody "idol stuff". Quite the opposite ERB embodies anti-idol behavior

>>103331280
How can someone be "anti-idol" if they put that show in her 3D debut with dancing and singing?

>>103330423
Mint and Nina for EN5

>>103319378
>she has a really strong throat
wink wink

>>103331273
> take any occasion to shove them in the throat of everyone
>raid and support them instead of her own genmates
>only Justice3D debut without any HoloEN girls in it

But sure it's just collabs

>>103333019
You exactly described what collabing is.
Imagine having friends and not talking about them and interacting with them. It's not shiling, it's genuine support and willing to collab.
Honestly who cares if there weren't any other HoloEN girls, it doens't mean anything because you don't know the real reasons and we shouldn't force people to collab with each other if they don't want to.

>>103322055
I'm a man and I like her because she's a big titty hag.

>>103316196 (OP)
>why the fuck do they even hire this lazy bitch?
To integrate holostars. This isn’t a secret.

>>103322055
>>103333318
duet battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmbLqyekmDs

>>103317893
autism

>>103316196 (OP)
>caring about idolshit
>ever

>>103316196 (OP)
>Join Idol company
>Retards get mad when you sing
OP you fucking faggot.

>>103316987
IRYS STILL HASN'T GOTTEN A SOLOLIVE??? Isn't her whole gimmick (originally) supposed to be the diva(singer) of HoloEN? What the fuck are Cover doing? Why haven't you raped Yagoo yet?

>>103317512
she belts well, that is it. Entirely one note and incapable of doing anything else so much so that she ruins songs by forcing it into that niche

>>103330153
You are completely correct but people didn't read past the first sentence to get your point

>>103321035
why the fuck does she have so much trouble staying on tempo it is bizarre and it's not just this song it is every single song

>>103330309
Maddie jumped ship from Fauna instantly because ERB is British, that is literally it

>>103330185
if erb followed the rules more people would like her, she doesn't come off as a cool rebel, she comes across as an obnoxious knowitall

>>103341366
If those rules mattered, then the brand wouldn't be actively recruiting people who don't follow them.

>>103342141
it's not, erb is a cunt anomaly

>>103316196 (OP)
anon demonstrates yet again why idol fans are toxic and idol culture needs to be destroyed

>>103341366
>if erb followed the rules more people would like her
You cannot make up a rule and say something like this. Stop pushing a narrative which goes to nowhere.

>>103316196 (OP)
>your one and only gimmick is singing
>therefore you should give up all rights to your song to a corporation
you can tell /vt/ has never created anything before

>>103316196 (OP)
guess the brits aint winning this time

>>103344904
AAAHHH! HARMFUL CONTENT! BRITISH GOVERNMENT! SAVE ME!

It's Liz not ERB

>>103331319
not all singing and dancing shows are idol shows, retardo

>>103316991
Justice reputation is fine outside of this place.

>>103333120
>who cares if there weren't any other HoloEN girls
If you're joining hololive and you're not collabing and hanging out with the holoen girls, what's the point of you being there?

>>103316991
It's fine to say you don't like her singing style, but when you say she can't sing well it makes you sound like an idiot.

>>103345303
Pursuing a music career while providing entertaining content to a wide audience?

If all you want is the same girl 20 times, there's kpop for that.

>>103318080
Being honest as an ERB fan, this is kinda baffling. She said she had some ideas but that's the last we heard of it.

>>103345378
Every girl should stream Minecraft

For a second I forgot how many women infest this board.

>>103318927
DoobDont's

>>103319681
Defending our oshis is le bad now?

>>103345378
>Pursuing a music career while providing entertaining content
She's not doing that either. There's no music career, only bad covers and unarchived karaokes, and she's not streaming enough for there to be any entertainment.

>>103333120
You aren't a Hololive fan

>>103318992
Nerissa has literally been in a shitload of Hololive events and 3D streams these past weeks. It's probably easier to count the 3D streams she wasn't in.
She's not like Gura who says she's working on shit and then has nothing to show for it'

>>103321120
And there's the actual reason this thread exists, as always.

>>103345606
You say that and yet she's still pulling numbers, and is clearly a hit outside of /here/.
Hell, her karaoke clips reach millions of views themselves, outperforming many girls' official covers or original songs. She's bringing in new fans rather than just shuffling the saturated holobox around.

>>103345792
>clearly a hit outside of /here/
Not necessarily a good thing, the more normies get into the hobby, the worse the hobby gets.

>>103330623
I watch several, ERB is just one of them.

>>103345851
She's not even the biggest draw for normies in Justice

>>103345851
Agree, Gura and covid is the worst thing that ever happened to this fandom.

>>103345303
Why not collab with the ones you want? Any particular reason the HoloID girls are just swept under the rug? Perhaps most of the HoloEN girls she would've invited were already booked for the other 3Ds, there's only so much you can expect a talent to do.

>>103346138
>Perhaps most of the HoloEN girls she would've invited were already booked for the other 3Ds
Please don't tell me you believe this shit. I agree the holoid girls would be good too, because they're all part of the same hololive branch and not holostars. If holostars can't suceed on their own without leeching off the girls, then there's no point in them existing.

>enjoying 5 kino songs and 1 peak duet
>/here/ keeps seething about a 5 seconds throwaway gag and 3 minutes of homos
Stop thinking about dicks are (you) gay???

>>103338795
they only give sololives out when the holo has put out a full album for them to promote. Irys has only made EPs so far, so no sololive for her.

>>103316196 (OP)
This is what they hired her to do
https://youtu.be/EN6iol6sJoA?si=7mvFceM8PSHYLKOE
Its been apparent from Day 1 that she was hired with the express intent to being a "performer". If anything, Cover have debuffed her themselves by rigidly adhering to their
>3D debut for the whole Gen is 1 year after Initial Debut
The reality is that they should have made an exception for her and rushed the 3D through to unlock her potential. Now that she has her 3D, it's now completely down to her to gain traction as a Virtual Singing Performer. Her hard work starts now

>>103346754
They haven't stopped seething about Mori or Shiori and they have been around for years now. What makes you think that they would stop seething about their Gen 4 Shitposting Target?

>>103318730
A not even 2 minute song about some shit twitch roleplay she’s doing? God damn you showed us. LMAO.

>>103346950
>Her hard work starts now
I'm ready to watch her do absolutely nothing for another year.

>>103345303
>you're not collabing and hanging out with the holoen girls
Which is what she's doing. Have you heard of stories of ERB in the streams of other members? Did you miss all of her collabs with Holomems?
Or do you just want to point out the 3D debut where you don't even know exaclty why there aren't any Holo EN girls? That's why i say who cares, because you don't have any proof to say anything concrete.

>>103346239
>because they're all part of the same hololive branch and not holostars.
But what's the problem with Holostars collabs? She is friend with them, she loves them, why no collabing?

>>103346950
oh shit I didn't notice this one.
God they should've given her 3D so much earlier, but I guess the chibi was a cute teaser.

>>103345671
You don't have an argument.

>>103345671
>you aren't an hololive fan because you care about the girls and their choices

>>103346950
Always nice to have girls that know how to enjoy dancing, this one's great at singing too!

>>103316395
>You are an amazingly unpleasant person
This board is full of literal 3rd worlders and always has been sooooo

>>103338605
Singing isnt content
sorry, not sorry

>>103347840
Two thirds of those stories are made up, we all know she locked herself in her apartment and only left said apartment to prerecord her 3D

>But what's the problem with Holostars collabs? She is friend with them, she loves them, why no collabing?

They're extremely mediocre, they're all 3 view cunts that are sucking resources that could go to the girls.

>>103350180
>t. I don't watch streams but homos and liz bad

You queers can't just shut up and enjoy, can't just ignore, gotta hate on someone, gotta start wars among ourselves.
Faggots all of you.

>>103350257
We get it, you got raped by your dad

>>103350350
It's true. I'm his dad.

>>103316221
Nerissa's first original song Say My Name was already teased on her 1st birthday which was 4 months after her debut

>>103346754
>3 minutes of homos
It's still to much of homos anon

>>103346950
This very much a "Cart before the horse" problem. People don't go to Hololive or Idol concerts in general for the best music. They go because their oshi is there, the Investigators and the Saplings went not there because their oshi can sing but because their oshi was going to sing.

Then let's say she gets her concert, but what does she sing? She has ?1ish original song (that is two minutes so it can be one of the shortest concerts ever) so Cover has to shell out money for perms of every song she is going to sing (and since she mostly sings western songs they are not particularly cheap) so she is already costing more money to put a concert together than Bae, IRyS, or even Nerissa would need. So we are here with a performer that would cost more money and bring in less (or at absolute most "equal amounts" to peers) money to even do the thing they "hired" her for. This makes no sense from Cover's perspective.


I am not even going to touch the "She was hired to collab with Stars" rrat. Because even if she does or does not collab with Stars should have no place in the scouting/recruitment process. If Cover really considers that more important than a prospective talent having both skills and willingness to put in the work then all is lost and we should pack it up right now.

>>103351887
True. They should continue to alienate their western audiences by only singing the cheapest japanese songs they can instead of actively looking to bring in new fans from the market they were supposed to cater to to begin with.

>>103331117
I think it's more or less did the recent Holo graduations mindbreak people into becoming more subservient to the company and/or lashing out on whatever left they have of their make-believe CGDCT that just simply translates to "speak English and no males only" If we're arguing with at least 100 of these people, and if these people want to claim they are the representative voice of the Hololive fandom, then that's what happened, and that golden age without the in-group and semi-in-group tribalism are long over. Nothing is sacred anymore. Just larp.

>>103336301
Mask went off I see. Maybe stop pretending to like Hololive next time.

>>103345303
>the world only revolves around the same 5 Advent and Justice talents
lol

>>103345378
Good comparison lol, HoloEN's unicorns remind me a lot of sasaengs.

>>103345498
Not really women, just angry little men with right-brained thinking.

>>103348247
Oh you care about them all right. Just like they should only milk the same CCGG 24 hours a day 7 hours a week and all ex-Holos must stop all activities or else.
You're not anyone's boss and thank god for that.

>>103352002
Poor excuse. Nerissa's EP has 4 original songs all in English

>>103350180
Right and I slapped YAGOO's great uncle's ass and killed fitty men in Iwo Jima

>>103352002
If she wants to cater to the western audience then she better make some English songs yesterday. Because unless she has something Cover actually has the rights to because if she just wants to sing "Greatest hits of the 90's and 00's" then she will become a bigger money sink than HoloEarth. Unless she and Cover are planning for her to be here for the next decade then she has to release music at Mori-pace not Nerissa-pace or IRyS-pace. You got Holos like Marine and Suisei who have already invested small fortunes and years worth of work to get viral MVs and sold out concerts. You can't hotshot someone to that level no matter how good their voice is unless you want to spin irresponsible amounts of money.

I know most people don't care and it doesn't get talked about very often because she's not particularly popular on this board, but one of the reasons she has slower music releases is she faced a lot of delays plus some cancellations right at the start where she started being more involved in the music making process because of it. For a breakdown:
She debuted with Otona Blue, but she recorded 2 additional songs pre-debut, but both were cancelled. No particular reason was given, was mentioned during HoloMelo with Mori.
Love-Song came out on Oct 20, after a month and a half delay where it was supposed to have been dropped immediately after ENreco 1, which ended on Sep 7.
Mephisto released on Jan 18 when it was supposed to have been released some time around November.
Snow Halation released Feb 21, when it was supposed to have been released with the Justice Half year anniversary collab before New Year's so the end of December.
Bunny Girl still not released yet, originally planned near Easter and her birthday which was in April.
Does it matter? Does anyone care? Probably not, but I'm just providing the full picture.

>>103353168
Thanks for the context, anon.
God, I just don't get how things keep getting so clogged up.

>>103353168
what ifs don't matter, only results

>>103353168
It really is like pulling teeth with cover isn't it.

>>103353168
>oh no, ERB has delays. It's not like any other talent has delays

>>103353168
tldr she got the altare treatment

>>103353168
Based knower

>>103316196 (OP)
Too busy schlicking to gay porn of her male coworkers

>>103360416
That's disgusting where would she even find something like that?

>>103352002
As they should, catering to Western tastes is always wrong.

>>103352378
He never said that, take your meds.

>>103360478
yeah I mean really, that's so gross, I can't even imagine where to begin looking for that sort of thing!

>>103346783
>has put out a full album for them to promote.
That’s not true if you look at Miko, Pekora and Fubuki.

I can't wait for ERB sololive

>>103330418
kind of cheating when you know who he is. also fuck him

>>103319494
You're a dumb fuck.