Thread 103348010

With vtubers proving to be a problem for Japan's declining population situation

What are the chances Abe bans vtubers in his country?

>abe
anon...

I don't think Abe is gonna do anything at all. He's too dead for that.

>>103348010 (OP)
>Abe
Anon....

>>103348010 (OP)
How do vtubers have anything to do with Japans population?

Abe was killed for telling Japan to have sex. They'd rather die apparently.

>Abe
....
>Japan's declining population
Fucker you're on /vt/ lusting after women you can't have either, you're just as worthless in your country

>tfw you could have impregnated 2.5 women
>but decided to watch koseki bijou instead

>>103348010 (OP)
>abe
anon, I...

>>103348193
Can a white man like me help abe's cause?

>Guys replacing women with anime/vtubers is a problem for population growth
Anyone that thinks this hasn't researched the problem
It's not a gender wars bullshit problem. It's a newer generations make far less money than previous generations problem

>>103348176
I could impregnate Koseki Bijou 25 times.

>>103348293
anon she is a child..

>>103348258
I don't think he really cared, he just wants people to have children. He himself never got to have any because his wife became infertile early into their marriage.

>>103348307
Why do you think I said 25? She's go over 20 years of perfect fertility in her.

>>103348010 (OP)
What is it with SEA and thinking that breeding like vermin makes them superior to Japan

>>103348448
Soon there won't be a japan unless they increase immigration

>>103348637
>increase immigration

Please god no. I don't want any brown hands on my japanese princess suisei

Abe has no child and declined Japanese economy though...

>>103349111
meme politician was not actually good? ...oh no ...I totally expected otherwise

>>103348737
>He doesn't know about Sanseito

>>103348371
i blame the nukes

>>103348737
To late for that, they're importing jeets by the truckload.

>>103348010 (OP)
deffinitly part of the problem, but Japan in itself is doomed in how they treat their employers. You live for the company, no room for romance or a child. Those that have children are CEO/people that are high rank enought to dump all the work onto their underlings and therfore have more freetime.

>>103350033
Not all jap CEOs are bad. Just look at yagoo

>>103348010 (OP)
Abe failed HARD in his mission to stop the population decline. A total LOSER

>>103350033
None of this matters. Europe has some of the best work/life balance for employees in the world and their birth rates are dog shit, countries like Spain actually have a lower birth rate than Japan.

The future of japan is Indian.

Why don't japanese men want to fuck this?

>>103350641
Because she doesn't look like that and is also an attention whore, so very likely mentally ill.

>>103350028
They just voted in a bunch of anti-immigration politicians so I wouldn't be surprised if they deport them desu

>>103350729
>third largest party just wrote up a declaration to reinstate the power of the Emperor.
God I hope the Sanseito get into power.

>>103348010 (OP)
Make all girls act like vtubers irl, hear marriages are shit over there, no love after they get together. A woman that doesn't want her husband, a man who hates his wife so much he rather toil away commuting to and back from work than spend time in his house. Who wants to be miserable for their entire existence like that?

>>103350798
What would that do? The emperor probably spends his days writing pottery, can't they just tell the UN to fuck off without his approval?

>>103350798
Japanese political system is set up to guarantee LDP win 89% of the time
what you wish isn't happening
one could try to push LDP more right, but considering deep connections between LDP and corporations that are starving for fresh labour that isn't realistic either
so in the end you will get jeets and you will like it

>>103348010 (OP)
>Abe
...I'm so sorry anon...

>>103351048
previous and current Emperor is a leftie ideologically so it doesn't even make sense
also Sanseito is a joke

>>103351119
>so in the end you will get jeets and you will like it
I don't live in Japan, if they want to fuck their country up that's on them. Not my problem

>>103351119
Abe is like Trump. He will never allow the japanese people to be replaced

>>103350798
The emperor and monarchy in general is fucking gay. Just invest more in AI and automation and don't fall for the immigration meme.

>>103350276
Turns out child-rearing is expensive AND time consuming. Capitalism got your cock, brehs?

>>103351340
Abe is dead you moron
his party insider faction was purged as well after the slush fund scandal

>>103351342
unironically this. if any country is in a position to and desperate enough to try hyper acceleration, it's Japan
you never know, maybe when the freeters and ambitionless zoomers get their state-mandate robot wife they'll actually want children

>>103351402
considering even most generous welfare states can't substantially increase birth rates I think the problem is purely cultural

>>103351420
>state-mandate robot wife they'll actually want children
artificial wombs can't come soon enough

>>103351446
>Richest 1 percent bagged 82 percent of wealth created last year - poorest half of humanity got nothing
Name a "welfare state" more generous than the 1% not getting vast majority of everything. Besides your "generous" welfare states are being gutted, because you need to fund the military to fight Russia, or something.

>>103351420
also to flip the genders on this, I bet a lot of women would line up around the block for a host clanker they don't have to keep putting money into every night for champagne towers

>>103351532
I mean Nordic countries specifically like Norway which has so much money it doesn't know how to spend it

>>103350641
They do, but western feminism is starting to poison the east. Plus, Japanese men who are employed and thus somewhat desirable are mostly overworked and underpaid, so they're too exhausted and stressed out to socialize and meet women, who would just reject them anyway for not being wealthy.

>>103351625
>Japanese men who are employed and thus somewhat desirable are mostly overworked and underpaid, so they're too exhausted and stressed out to socialize
no wonder salaryman love vtubers

>>103348281
It's the opposite actually. Income negatively correlates with fertility.

>>103351625
>starting
Korea has literally been a shithole country for ages with worse feminism than the West ever had.

>>103348281
as any country gets richer fertility drops that's universal

>>103351474
How far along is that technology anyway, you'd think nations in europe and east asia would be investing more in that considering their dog shit birth rates

>>103351729
Korea was alright under Park Chung Hee

>>103348281
Poor people have kids, rich people have kids. Middle class people don't have kids. It's precisely because they have too much money and have grown accustomed to being selfish (but not so much money that they worry about legacy) that most people in the first-world opt out of children.

>>103351754
>>103351715
So are you paid to be retarded or do it for free?

>>103351446
The problem is purely the decrease in accidental pregnancies. Only teens have actually experienced a fertility collapse. As it turns out, human civilization has relied on teenagers accidentally getting pregnant for thousands of years and we've created an environment with contraceptives and sex-ed to make sure that doesn't happen.

>>103351795
>Researchers in Japan have developed the world's first complete artificial womb capable of supporting mammalian embryos from early stages to birth
https://engineerine.com/japans-artificial-womb-breakthrough/

>>103351905
And abortions, forgot to mention that.

>>103351916
Oh shit, cyberpunk future where most people are grown in vats is fucking here. Maybe the Japanese will be the first ones to do it.

>>103350641
you mean aside from the obvious photoshopping

>>103351869
Africa is already experiencing fertility drops in the cities
the trend of industrialisation » low fertility can't be reversed unless one engages in more creative public policies
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_on_childlessness

>>103351981
so one should either be abortion + contraceptives or just embrace cyberpunk lab grown children dystopia
got it

>>103351916
Japan coming to save us once again

>>103352102
*ban on abortion + contraceptives

>>103352102
>or just embrace cyberpunk lab grown children dystopia
Hell yeah dude I choose that option

>>103351916
can't wait

>>103352102
I'm starting to think there's a crazy conspiracy with these artificial wombs on top of those companies that tell you about your ancestry. They're getting paid to take genetic info from these customers so they can eventually their DNA to create artificial super soldiers in these fake wombs. It's the perfect crime.

>>103351869
Do you just somehow think it's an accident people had tons of kids when they were poor and now that they're no longer poor they don't have kids? Why is it poor countries where people still have tons of kids and rich countries where they don't? Just look at your own family history. It's once people had money they stopped having kids.

>>103351832
Middle class people are not "too selfish" they can't find a partner who isn't selfish so they withdraw.

>>103352064
Tax on childlessness won't work unless it's more expensive to not have a kid. That would never happen without major uprisings.

>>103352382
So they are just the right amount of selfish? Or not selfish enough? What the fuck do you think you're saying?

>>103352464
Wasn't it Columbia or some South American country that tried to do this?
It created a market where women would get paid to reject men and then sign documents saying they did so so the men could avoid the tax

>>103352464
A typical selfish idiot who thinks anyone cares that you're deleting yourself. That tax has nothing to do with encouraging anyone to have kids, it's about removing the burden on society you create for everyone else.

>>103351916
We're still going to need real eggs, so I think hot women are going to live in nutrient pods to ensure their continued health, then their eggs will be harvested and used in the artificial wombs. As we are right now, women don't exist, so the next step to a completely woman-free society is to hide them in vats and extract their resources. Sexbots can take over the social part of human reproduction, because real "women" have utterly failed their role

>>103352560
Are you one of those people who thinks they'll be reincarnated as their children? Why does it matter if I don't have kids? Everyone gets deleted by default so I don't really understand your point.

>>103352542
in USSR a lot of men fraudulently escaped the tax by claiming infertility and providing forged medical documents

>>103352598
>think hot women are going to live in nutrient pods to ensure their continued health, then their eggs will be harvested and used in the artificial wombs
I think I read that ero doujinshi desu

>>103352598
I uh, think a more realistic scenario is that the state pays people for their sperm/eggs and creates children that way.

>>103352560
You must be insane if you think two adults with kids are less of a burden than two adults without kids. Where do you think the resources come from to support children?

>>103352598
more likely that both sides choose the bots and so both sides have a demand for the others gametes

>>103352662
You think the tax is about trying to incentivize you to stop from jumping off a building but it's about forcing you to pay for the cleaners who have to scrub your entrails off the sidewalk. No one cares about you, you don't need to beg for attention here of all places.

>>103352729
Pretty soon women will be replaced by replicant women who do everything better than them. So yes, they will live in pods and the men who are allowed to continue will live with replicants. Unless you think the elites are going to kill everyone and then exploit an inferior product.

>>103352768
>trying to incentivize you to stop from jumping off a building
You can't even make a relevant analogy and you expect me to reply seriously. What depth is there for me to reply to?

>>103351402
As opposed to starving in communist countries? NK must be a paradise according to you.

>>103352738
You cannot possibly be this fucking stupid. The reason governments want people to have children and will import children if their population refuses to have them is because the economy is a pyramid scheme. Once there are less people at the bottom than the top, the whole thing collapses. But if they just put an extra tax on all the people who are a net loss to society like you, then at least there's a chance no real loss will be incurred.

>>103352865
Crying into your pillow would be more beneficial to you at this point.

>>103352738
>Where do you think the resources come from to support children?
From the government taking debt that the next generation of tax payers pay off. But if the next generation is too small it collapses.

>>103352896
It's a Ponzi scheme, not a pyramid scheme.

>>103352896
>But if they just put an extra tax on all the people who are a net loss to society like you,
You just said the system fails when more old fucks exist than younguns. The only net loss to society are the oldies. And you think taxing the only youth you have left in society is going to produce more welfare to support the old people? They will just leave or stop working. The worst idea in history was to disincentivize the people who produce your society's wealth.

>>103348010 (OP)
>abe
bro don't even shitpost about that, sharpie in pooper RIGHT NOW

>>103352896
Any additional tax on the middle class is just going to further depress consumption and tax revenue as a consequence. It'll save nothing or just be easily gamed. I know you really want to punish humans you deem worthless but you're going to have to get more creative.
>>103352542
>>103352672

>>103352936
Let me rephrase. What is it about childless people that you think is equivalent to them jumping off of buildings? I can't understand your position, no steelmanning is possible.

>>103348010 (OP)
Your oshi is /childfree/ and /antinatalist/ and that makes her one of us!

>>103353071
If we can't make people immortal than the best option is The Giver, just send old people in the incinerator when they hit their expiry date
>>103353200
He considers not procreating to be ending your genetic line and the equivalent to throwing yourself off a tall building. Generational suicide

>>103352896
your in /vt/ yelling at simp and whore to make baby

>>103353352
>He considers not procreating to be ending your genetic line and the equivalent to throwing yourself off a tall building. Generational suicide
Yeah I get that but the comparison makes no sense. It's like he said I chose not to drive a car, therefore society needs to tax me for not buying gas so that we can afford to hire gas station employees.

>>103352896
>But if they just put an extra tax on all the people who are a net loss to society like you
women most affected

>>103353242
Child-free, yes. Anti-natalist, I would seriously doubt.

>>103353352
>If we can't make people immortal than the best option is The Giver
If we do make people immortal, having children will be considered a crime unless it's to help populate a new world

>>103348010 (OP)
>>103348159
>>103348193
The only Japanese president who was so godawful that somebody actually killed him and people still meme him years later like he was some sort of hero. Ridiculous

>>103348159
>Abe was killed for telling Japan to have sex.
No, he was killed for supporting grifting

>Yamagami told investigators that he had shot Abe in relation to a grudge he held against the Unification Church (UC), a new religious movement to which Abe and his family had political ties, over his mother's bankruptcy in 2002.[2]

>The assassination brought scrutiny from Japanese society and media against the UC's alleged practice of pressuring believers into making exorbitant donations.[10] Japanese dignitaries and legislators were forced to disclose their relationship with the UC, and Kishida was forced to reshuffle his cabinet amid plummeting public approval.[11][12] On 31 August, the LDP announced that it would no longer have any relationship with the UC and its associated organisations, and would expel members who did not break ties with the group.[13] On 10 December, the House of Representatives and the House of Councillors passed two bills to restrict the activities of religious organisations such as the UC and provide relief to victims.[14]

>Abe's killing has been described as one of the most effective and successful political assassinations in recent history due to the backlash against the UC that it provoked. The Economist remarked that "... Yamagami's political violence has proved stunningly effective ... Political violence seldom fulfills so many of its perpetrator's aims."[15] Writing for The Atlantic, Robert F. Worth described Yamagami as "among the most successful assassins in history".[16]

>>103348010 (OP)
It's simple, we kill Abe.

>>103356903
Have sex

>>103356992
Japan has a weird problem with cults. I read a book about the sarin gas attack in 98 and that was also done by a cult.
Japan's way of life strangles people so much they just turn to that stuff I guess.

>>103356992
The equivalent of the president and several members of his cabinet having ties with Scientology

>>103351729
And they have the worst birth rates in the entire planet, your point?

>>103351869
>he doesn't know
Anon, the factors are composite of several bits but the trending is fucking real

>>103348371
This is some hard hitting deep lore.

>>103351905
Is that, but add
>porn of all kind of tastes are (almost always) easily avaliable
>the education "meme" for the offsprings (2 things in one to be fair, the sum cost falacy of "with more education you will have more chances to get a better salary" and the "if some service cost more it must be better" put together; and yes, the university jews with their ludicrous prices also enter into the equation)
>contraceptives and abortion
>the moral shift of sexual preferences (lgbtq niggers plus more mature women)
>"being parent is a full job ocupation", aside your real work that's it

>>103352560
>it's about removing the burden on society you create for everyone else.
In comparison to a bunch of eldery in retirement houses? Anon, children are an investiment for the society (being both future productors and consumers) but the eldery just keep consuming and cannot produce anymore (unless of course you want them to keep working until death)

>>103358101
imagine believing you'll get to retire instead of working until they decide to turn you into onions

>>103358238
Yes, me, the anons in this bait thread, in this board and in the entire site, but specially (you) are going to die working 12/6 anywhere

>>103348010 (OP)

I hate to break it to you,"anon",but,....
Shinzo Abe,...IS DEAD.

Google Search "Shinzo Abe Death"
when you get a chance to.

And please feel free to go to this(!) URL/website
for more information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinzo_Abe

Thank you,...NOT SO VERY MUCH!,...For your time.

Go frick yourself.
Meds,E!
KEK.

>>103351532
>under what kiddie commies call "capitalism", the top 1% horde 80% of the wealth through business
>they want to replace it with a system where the top 1% horde 100% of the wealth through the government

>>103352598
We've been turning male gametes to female gametes for decades

>>103357281
AIPAC

>>103356903
The Abe procreation memes are exclusively western

>>103348010 (OP)
>abe
Anon… he… he graduated…

wait whos abe

>>103359902
ligma balls

>>103348010 (OP)
Fun fact, pretty much every 1st and 2nd world country has a declining population if you only look into the actual population and not counting immigrants or said people coming over to make more kids. You pretty much have to pay poor people form other countries to make babies for you or bring them over

>>103360379
Even the poorest countries are seeing fertility drops. As much as people are whinging about immigration across the world it's going to become a problem that solves itself when there's no more people to import.
Endemic populations are getting economically destroyed so it needs to stop regardless but even if you could convince them to not riot in the streets for a couple decades, it's not sustainable in the long term. Maybe not even the medium term.

>global birthrate is heading into total collapse
in the end:
incels won
losers won
weirdos won
This is some extreme karma

>>103348010 (OP)
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>>103348258
Why do white guys seem to feel more threatened by Asian women dating other races rather than by Asians themselves? This doesn't appear to happen with any other racial groups of men.

>Blacks dgaf if Asian or White guys date Latino
>Latinos dgaf if White or Asian guys date Blacks
>Asians dgaf if Latino or Black guys date Whites
>Whites FUCKING LOSES IT if Latino or Black guys date Asian

it's crazy to open with loli as an example of one of the many things a female anon might be interested in
I know it's pasta but wow lmao

>>103348010 (OP)
No...

>>103348010 (OP)
It has nothing to do with vtubers or anime, the main cause of the global population decline is feminism, but it seems like humans will be extinct before they realize that, what a wonderful world e live in anon

This thread is a bait for a politics thread goddamit

>>103361021
>the legendery "Beta uprising" turned out to be betas just sitting around doing nothing
>its super effective

>>103351625
>>103351729
>>103357954
>>103363082
This

>>103363082
no, it's capitalism

>>103363323
>humans will be extinct before they realize that
See? Just like I said

>>103363323
It's this >>103351905 and >>103357954
If you can blame that on capitalism then sure.

The eugenics movement was a mistake.
Today, mildly eccentric people are pathologised as children, drugged with pills, and told that they have mental illnesses such as autism, ADHD, homosexuality, and transsexualism. Then they're told that they're too gay and autistic to function, so indulge in "hyperfixations" (capitalist bread and circuses) instead.
This is because the elites do not want eccentric and creative people to create more of themselves.

>>103348010 (OP)
he would have forced them to make babies with their fans

You've been called an autistic retard since you were in elementary school.
You've been pathologised all your life by men in white coats, and even your parents and teachers.
You've been told that you shouldn't drive a car because it would be "stressful"
No wonder you feel like dead weight, and the government agrees.
RFK's wellness camps aren't for reproduction, but rather the opposite.
Everyone wants me dead, they just say it in nice ways
MAID is coming worldwide soon.

>>103359283
The capitalist mind cannot comprehend what a non-capitalist system would look like, so their only option is to project that it will be the exact same, but... somehow worse.

>>103348010 (OP)
another 5 years AT BEST (or worst) until Japs develop real life AI vision implants that turns every foid into a 2D cunnoid

>>103363763
That is why Distributism is the answer.

>>103363875
>theocracy
Any man who puts the needs of a God above the needs of his people is unfit to govern

>>103363875
>Social Democracy
>but with Religion this time!
Shut the fuck up.

>>103363763
Or you could read a single history book about any non-capitalist society of your choice and learn how it turned out. You're living in one of the best times in history for economic mobility but you're too lazy and gloomy to do anything about it

>>103364340
>>103364360
Even though you hate Him, Jesus loves you.

>>103364491
no he doesn't

>>103360947
Solves itself after it's already too late (it's already far too late). People who see it as a problem that solves itself do so because they see humans as numbers on a chart but the people who are upset are upset because they see people as living beings who pass everything on to the next generation.

>>103363875
Why don't you distribute these nuts in your mouth, cunt.

>>103352598
>>103352820
Just like lab-grown meat, only vegan faggots like it.
Livestock should not be kept in bug pods.

A poor shepherd blames his flock.
It's easy enough to psychologically sway passive creatures.
Just use social pressure. Look up "torches of freedom".
Introduce anime charm school lessons to girls in school.
You can convince women to behave in any way you want.
Remember: "It's toasted".

>>103364644
Ligma balls first, bitch.

>>103363875
Right, everyone should live with an aim toward altruistic principals. That's why pastors and ministers in the US drive around in late model Mercedes and the pope walks around in gold filigreed silk slippers

>>103364491
Jesus has been dead for two thousand years and anyone telling you he's coming back is trying to control your life

>>103362389
They fear losing an easy source of sex (at least conceptually, nobody here is having sex)

>>103363082
Yep, this is it. Even in places like the Nordic countries with generous incentives to have kids, they haven't really been able to reverse the decline.
The simple fact is, when given the choice and not pressured by society, partners, whomever, many women simply won't have children.

>>103348010 (OP)
>Abe...

>>103365081
Does he know what?

>>103365133
That he is no longer in charge, in fact he is no longer even in charge of his own body..... Or what's left of it

Actually now I'm curious, are there any JP vtubers who encourages procreation?

>>103365570
Fauna

>>103348010 (OP)
Abe bait thread

>>103365704
kek

>>103348010 (OP)
Japan's declining popular was a thing way before there was even vtubers.

>>103360379
>You pretty much have to pay poor people form other countries to make babies for you or bring them over
That's partially because immigration itself actually makes it more difficult for the natives to reproduce due to the knock-on effects
The thing is you need to actually encourage people to reproduce at this point. I think the only country that has had any actual success without immigration is Hungary and they're still below replacement rate

>>103366767
If anyone actually cared instead of pretending to care, they'd look for solutions that don't require a replacement rate. If those solutions were in place, there'd be way less uncertainty among the population about the future and it would be much easier to justify children, even though they are no longer as necessary.

>>103348307
stfu with that gay shit. You're probably literally Vaush with the ATF servers in your goddamn home.

>>103367122
>Vaush
>all the hoes are playing a horse game
he won

>>103367295
> horse game
which one?

>>103357141
hololive is a cult

>>103367578
Okay indiefag

>>103363726
I do genuinely find driving stressful. It's why I haven't had a license in 21 years, despite how inconvenient it is for my mother to drive me everywhere in my late 30s.

>>103348010 (OP)
I want to see it happen, I'm interested in the consequences.
>Abe.
Shigeru Ishiba is the prime minister.

?

>>103367612
this is the light

>>103348010 (OP)
where is the problem?

>>103362389
Nobody brought up black people anon, you just wanted an excuse to talk about your fetish

>>103348010 (OP)
What do you mean?
Holos have made tons of people lust for Japanese hags. It's the best advertisement there is.

Look at all the people wanting to mercilessly breed women like Mio, Korone or Koyori.
Abe is smiling in the heavens.

>>103377564
anon.. their eggs

>>103348010 (OP)
Give me Biboo and I will repopulate Japan

>>103378002
She is too young to have children. Have fun trying to get her pregnant when it's literally impossible dumbass

>>103378033
Oh I will.

>>103378033
>literally impossible
We shall see

>>103378033
It's possible to impregnate literal 10 year olds

What if they just put something in the water that made everyone incredibly horny?

>>103378271
everyone is already incredibly horni

thats why we are all fapping to vtubers

MAKE RAPE LEGAL AND BAN ABORTION
IT'S THAT EASY

?

>>103348010 (OP)
Instead of banning Vtubers Japan should pass a law so only pregnant women can Vtube

Saba is even younger than biboo. It would be physically impossible to even fit inside of her without hurting her