Thread 103362335

if the stars somehow gained a massive popularity boost through some genie magic, which talents do you think would instantly drop the pure idol shtick

>>103362335 (OP)
Is this thread a stealth brag about how some of them are 4views now?

>103362335
imo depends on how big they are.
>half as famous
most would still not collab. the first to drop the act would be the dev_is girls, subaru, ID, and the usual EN suspects.
>equally as famous
more or less about one third of the girls would be open to collab, depending on how controversial the holostars are.
>slightly more famous
numbers chasing girls like pekora would be open to collabs
>double as famous and so on
most girls would be strong-armed by management to male collab. the only unicorn bastions left are the dykes (flare, koyori, etc) and super idol purists (kanata, fuwamoco, etc)

>>103362335 (OP)
your mom

>>103362606
>fuwamoco
But fuwamoco are majorly #s brainrotted.

ALL of them. If they become high 5-views, every single hologirl will suck their cock. They don't even need the fans, if they can get into their beds they won't have to care about money.
That's why Mori sucked connor's cock by the way, she got dumped like an used condom but she tried

>>103362643
they have been idol purists for far longer than they are number chasers.

>>103362335 (OP)
Aren't the EN stars major homosexuals? Almost every time I see a clip thumbnail on Youtube it's about homosexuality.
So even if they were 10 times as popular, the overlap would be minor.

>>103362800
They're as gay as EN hololive is lesbian.
Not at all.

>>103362335 (OP)
Pekora the numberfags

>>103362335 (OP)
I could truly see it happen with fwmc, they are THAT number-addicted.
Kiara as well
Kronii if you want to pretend she is anti-homo now
Raora considering her past seems likely

>>103362335 (OP)
My bet is Kroni and Calli doing weekly collabs

>>103362690
Nope, I can see them chasing numbers since you know they want to be famous and make money.

>>103362800
>He doesn't talk about dicks with his bros

>>103362335 (OP)
The homos would need divine intervention.

>>103362335 (OP)
See this scenario basically happened to NijiEN during the peak of their popularity and because of this we know that collabing with super popular males results in 0 viewership gain for girls.
Only Mori would be stupid enough to do it.

>>103362335 (OP)
There would come a point where they’d be too popular to ignore. Cover and the girls really only became super cautious about the male collabing because it actually hurt their numbers. If the reverse were true, Cover would obviously be pushing for male collabs. Unless they thought it would somehow hurt the boys and plummet their numbers in that scenario.

>>103362659
Literally this out of all of them remaining. Maybe Gura would be the exception but she aint there anymore. The problem with Homostars is they aren’t worth the trouble, 10k ccv tho? All of them would be collabing either them like they did vesper and Magni and those has 4-5k ccv at the time.
>but what about__
Every single homo is a sub 2k shitter other than Roberu who has a harem a women and Jurard that has someone botting his ass. Most are sub 1k shitters even

>>103363916
Has any female stood their ground against a male partner, or was it just like "mother" collab - complete stream take over?

>>103362820
I mean some of them are definitely a bit fruity and I mean on both sides

>>103363644
It resulted in 0 gains because the biggest male collabers wanted the dick and not to have fun or get numbers, a lot of twitch chuubas got better numbers by actually being funny in collabs with fleshies

>>103362335 (OP)
What kind of stupid question is that? It's like asking if Gunrun wished for a billion dollars would he try to buy Nijisanji and Hololive. It's nonsensical

Besides the truth is that would never happen because da bois would immediately quit and go indie to deny Yagoo his cut. If tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum quit because they were hitting 5k what makes you think someone like the homo dino would stay when he could take his sexpesting worldwide if the world went retarded and gave him the views.

>>103362381
the only genuine 4view is bettel. everybody else averages 300-700ccv unbotted, same as they ever have for years. even bettel routinely drops into 3view territory during overlap or when he's putting on a shit boring stream, the only guaranteed buff is the twin collab

>>103362335 (OP)
It’s been repeatedly proved that the majority of homo collabs have been mandated by management who are trying to merge the branches despite the opposition of the talent.
Kronii wasn’t initially opposed to the merging, but after talking with her fans (the ones that actually pay so she can live) she agreed to not initiate and stream if she did stream with them. This guerrilla stream, the EBWM incident, infuriated management and combined with the continuous harassment of beggars resulted in the betrayal tweet. As a result Kronii’s growth completely stopped and her numbers plummeted for two cunts who would soon betray her as well.
Now we have shit stirrers like ERB and Shiori trying to drag the rest in their cock hungry shitfest.
Kronii paid the price, and why I’m still not happy she never apologised, sometimes it’s better to pretend something never happened and I’m happy with that.

>>103362335 (OP)
Fucking duh?
Every single 'unicorn friendly' vtuber would be bending over backwards in a sexual pose is Asmongold or Mr Beast or any of the other sapient number-banks offered them a collab.
Their main paypigs are never unicorns and they know it. They'll drop the act the very first time the numbers favor it.

>>103362335 (OP)
>unicorn mentality
Fauna never collabed with males. That turned out so well.

>>103365982
That's just because her husband didn't want her hanging out with guys

>>103362335 (OP)
If they became super popular overnight they wouldn't change a damn thing that they were doing when they became popular.

>>103362335 (OP)
People acting like plenty early gen JP Holos weren't thrilled to leech off Niji males initially. It's always just been a numbers game

Its a dumb hypothetical because if they actually became popular its them who wouldn't want to rock the boat, they'd tell the girls to fuck off

Hard to say. If they simply got magically boosted to 10k without changing a thing about themselves, and assuming that the boost was legit (albeit magical), not bitter and not a Luxiem tier mirage. Most of the girls probably still don't Collab with them for a few reasons
>Hardline unicorn (Kanata, fwmc, Miko)
>Knows that their audience aren't comfortable with mixed collabs and wouldn't want to risk it.(Mio, Noel, etc.)
>Got burned by or suffered consequences from previous interactions with stars (Kronii)
Newer gens probably would be more open to collabs since they're nowhere near as established as the old guard. Now, if you want to create a condition where >80% of Hololove would be willing to interact with stars, you'd need one more change to make that happen
>Removing the loud minority fujoshi audience from the guys or unicorn audience from the girls would be the main one
You also need to figure out how to not turn the situation into another Nijisanji, where the male nijis completely turn even the top female nijis into accessories for themselves instead of it uplifting both parties.

>>103365538
>300-700 ccv
>These is supposedly bad
Motherfucker, do you know how many indie males struggle to even hit 1/10th of that?

Who's gonna be the Nina for Hololive and draw the ire of the HoloSisters?

>>103362335 (OP)
None if they don't wished to be impaled by my unicorn horn. I sharpen and polish it every day. Dooooon't FUCK with me.

>>103366601
They're not indies, though

>>103366574
>You also need to figure out how to not turn the situation into another Nijisanji, where the male nijis completely turn even the top female nijis into accessories for themselves instead of it uplifting both parties.
Is it even possible to stop that? One of the reasons I like Hololive is that keeping male interactions to a minimum stops this kind of shit from happening.

>>103366601
s'truth. it's not an equal opportunity market for men and women in vtubing; you have to be exceptionally good at what you do to break into being a mid 3view as a guy, and there's no real playbook to follow, no trends to chase; BFE has the best hit rate but you have to be GOOD good.

>>103363307
I don’t give a shit what you've made up reality is different

>>103365640
There are some delusions mixed in

>>103366716
>Is it even possible to stop that?
Not from what I see. vspo is also a case of male streamers overshadowing girls.

>>103367460 (me)
Still, there's no doubt that YAGOO's biggest misstep was with stars. It's even worse than earth.

>>103366716
Probably not. Based on the template set by niji, a successful male vtuber needs to either do fujoshi bait, or someone who is a clear alpha Dog of the group. Both of which completely clashes with Hololives female dominant formula.

Why are you looking for a hymen from the morning?

>It’s been repeatedly proved that the majority of homo collabs have been mandated by management who are trying to merge the branches despite the opposition of the talent.
Considering things like the Ririka incident, where management was blamed but it wasn't actually their fault, I'm finding it hard to fully trust the Holomem side of the story.

>>103362335 (OP)
It's just another episode of JUST GET LUCKY BRO!!

>>103366690
It's big for any non-Niji male vtuber, and you don't want anything to become more like Niji.

>>103362335 (OP)
>Pure idol
Don't care.
Not watching idolshit.

>>103367765
>where management was blamed but it wasn't actually their fault
?

>>103364173
as much as people shitted on her, kronii and vesper had the only normal and balanced mixed collab in the history of en vtubing

>>103367961
Why are you in this thread?

>>103367965
She said during a members only that management told her to collaborate with a men, but it was already known through Valorant and LoL trackers that she was voluntarily enjoying games with men in private. oc, this was after she became a Holomem.

>>103368198
the LoL tracker has been such a rrat factory for practically all the hololive branches and yet the girls refuse to use different accounts to play off-stream

>>103367980
I think incels are also strongly jealous of their oshi having good buddies of the opposite sex.

>>103364468
good gif haha

>>103367460
Everything I just typed was factual.

>>103362335 (OP)
If they're doing kayfabe right now, I don't care about hypotheticals. If the time comes and they betray me, I'll unsubscribe, get rid of the merch, and cancel membership. That's all!!!

>>103368527
It's always the same, it's just a shame, that's all

>>103368527
This. Just don’t interact to males on stream and it will be ok, but if she does, just gonna leave, no drama, and move on to some chuuba who knows her place.

>>103368527
They don't even fucking know you. There's nothing to betray.

>>103368527
I'll buy that, but please cancel your membership before unsubscribing.

>>103368637
So you are okay with being cucked in secret?

People forget that vtubers are a 50/50 mix of 2D and 3D. Those who only see them as 3D streamers get a schizo to doxxing

>>103368768
NTA but this is such a retarded view to have.
A Vtuber deliberately cultivates a certain fanbase which means that they have certain expectations and standards that they need to either maintain or fulfil. If they're going to go back on their word at a whim or break their promises or standards, people are going to feel betrayed for supporting them
Imagine a vegan brand being found out to have been putting animal products in all of their products or a group that was promoting some sort of politic aim had been taking money from people opposed to those supposed goals. Not that hard to understand

>>103365640
>It’s been repeatedly proved that the majority of homo collabs have been mandated by management who are trying to merge the branches despite the opposition of the talent.
Cover wants to boost Holostars and therefore they don't mind the Hololive talents blaming management for those collabs since that allows unicorns to drink some copium. While HoloPro unity is heavily encouraged it doesn't seem to be mandatory or Cover would have convinced Gura to agree to a few Tempus collabs.

>>103365640
>As a result Kronii’s growth completely stopped and her numbers plummeted for two cunts who would soon betray her as well.
Anon don't be naïve it was obvious that Kronii was doing a lot to get on the good side of management. Kronii has one of the sleaziest coombait designs with the worst boob window since original design Flare, a skimpy outfit that is only slightly better than Ina, and the most absurd boob jiggle in Hololive. She is obviously embarrassed with her design and was asking for a redesign. The HoloPro collabs did lower her merch sales and Cover was still ignoring her requests for a new design. Cover was forcing Kronii to jump through hoops and it was clear that Magni and Vesper were upset since that situation was unfair. They waited until after Vesper got his 2.0 design to get into a fight with management and their last messages in Holostars directly tied into their final collab with Kronii. The truth will eventually come out is a clear indication they would like to explain what actually caused their "graduations" especially since unicorns on this board are still throwing shit at them 2 years later.

>>103368851
>in secret
What do you suggest, wise guy? Hacking their xitter accounts to see all their DM history?

>>103368930
>Kronii hates Wadamama

>>103368925
they love their plausible deniability though
It's more like a brand doesn't say vegan, seem to use animal-friendly and cruelty-free imagery. But then reveal they use animal products
still pretty shitty.

>>103368930
too long didn't read you're outfitschizo

>>103368930
She only gave her 3D model's butt a lift, so you're taking their every word and stream way too seriously. Some fans pride themselves on catching every single stream, even the exclusive ones, but keep in mind that even that membership-only content is still public. And if she have a real passion for making corrections, like Flare, they'll actually listen.

For a company to survive for decades, it's not sustainable to rely on a shrinking market like incels, a group that can't reproduce.
While I'm against homo, I foresee that this constant division will inevitably hit a wall in the long run.

>>103368925
You're mixing up a social relationship with a business relationship.
Anon isn't making a retarded view because he is stating that there is no such relationships to begin with, hence there is nothing to betray.

>>103362335 (OP)
You are invoking a Vtuber philosopher who makes no sense...

>>103368851
They all have boyfriends dude. For example, Saba keeps the kayfabe, that’s good, but she doesn’t give a shit about her fans, so I don’t watch her. If a vtuber respects her fanbase and produces good content frequently, that’s as good as it gets.

>>103362335 (OP)
It's a bit sad that for that reason, ERB is kind of isolated in the EN and Matsuri is in the JP. They both do a great works in collab streams.

>>103362335 (OP)
>IRyS
That fucking married whore fake as fuck

>>103369430
Are you implying that streaming isn't a business? The majority of the girls who get discussed on this board earn more than the majority of posters do. You're just being dishonest now for the sake of it
You only get this sort of weird attitude with Vtubing. When you talk about bands "selling out", everyone knows exactly what you're talking about. But suddenly as soon as it's Vtubing, people act like fans can't have any actual expectations for the Vtubers or their content

In the end, we'll be forced to reflect on our lives anyway, so we won't do it now. I hope the bitches keep up their mental care for our pathetic selves.

>>103369630
>Matsuri is in the JP
Lol, Matsuri is not isolated because of her male collabs

>>103369557
>They all have boyfriends dude
This is a statistical impossibility and repeating it only makes you look like an actual retard
Have you not seen the percentage of women still single in their 20s/30s nowadays, especially in Japan?

Even if she collabos with a homo, the damage is significantly reduced if she herself is entertaining and diligent. If she avoids collaborating with a homo and has those qualities, she’d likely become very popular. We’re quite lenient about their personal talents, and I’m somewhat dissatisfied with that. /vt/ are especially prone to that tendency...

>>103369724
qrd

>>103369066
>Kronii hates Wadamama
The Kronii design is perfect coombait but I doubt Wadamama wants to force a vtuber to jiggle boobs for coomers. If a vtuber finds it embarrassing of course she would give them a new design. Cover on the other hand is far more concerned with merch sales.

>>103369345
>And if she have a real passion for making corrections, like Flare, they'll actually listen.
Shion left Hololive because she was embarrassed with her pedobait design. If a 2nd gen Hololive JP talent who knew management for over 6 years couldn't get a model redesign than imagine the absolute nightmare it would be for Ina, Sana, and Kronii. Flare was lucky since the Chinese yab was an obvious issue with her original design (along with Nenechi who liked her design). Cover did give a redesign to Kaela and that modest visual update to Ayame so it's not like management is completely misogynistic but even in 2025 it's a difficult battle.

>>103369807
Cope all you want. I wish they were single, but most are not. Expect nothing and you won’t be disappointed.

Until that day, Naplings took pride in believing that their oshi was the most sincere member of the EN branch.
But in the face of facts like these, the narratives each fan tells about "how innocent and sincere their oshi is" hold no weight, completely.

>>103364173
I think kronii vesper had some good back and forth banter.

>>103370624
The primary reason is a combination of Sion becoming a Valorant addict behind the scenes (which has been confirmed multiple times by trackers) and an increase in her workload. In short, she just wanted to earn money at a relaxed pace. As a non-native Japanese speaker, you are making quite a few unfounded statements.

>>103370624
New Kaela's boobs, though...

Some, like Suisei, outwardly reject sexual attention precisely because they know it will only intensify the fantasies of men. For this reason, it's useless to try and fully embody someone else and understand their every motive. In this culture, what you do is far more important than what you say.

>>103370657
I think you're just dim

It looks like the naplings KYS'd and came back to life as kronies

>>103362335 (OP)
This is a meaningless question without a top-tier individual joining HOMOs.
Even trying to answer that question would only amplify our distrust of Holomem.

>>103362335 (OP)
Definitely someone like Gigi who's very entertainment-brained and doesn't do GFE
It would basically be Kronii 2.0 with the meltdowns on here

>>103362335 (OP)
Saba

>>103362335 (OP)
They all do once the stream ends. These are 18+ women after all, none of them are idols.

>>103371900
Maybe your oshi is a whore, but not all of them are that shit

>>103372034
>Not all of them are humans
Your oshi wouldn't like you thinking that about them.

>>103372136
Are you implying that idols aren't human? Or do you not understand what the meaning of "idol" is in this situation? Or are you just stupid?

>>103362335 (OP)
Two completely separate things aidsbrains, idol shtick has nothing to do with content creation and roru if you think most even try. The not collabing with shitters is just common sense.

>>103371313
I know you want to live in a fantasy world where your Oshi is a single and honest woman, married to her fans, because facing reality is too painful. Unfortunately (for you), it’s much easier to lie than to deprive yourself of affection to satisfy strangers on the internet. It must be especially hard for someone with such a rigid mindset that they are incapable of understanding what a hyperbole is. Stay safe.

I often see people claiming that Mori and Kronii have had a change of heart. However, Mori has only stopped working with the stars guys, and still collaborates with other men outside of Holo. And while Kronii may have become incel-friendly, she has her own other issues, like streaming infrequently and not even bothering to post her schedule clearly on X.
I won't atone for them.

>>103366716
force EVERYONE (including starsJP) to solo stream EVERY DAY, even if for only 90 minutes
basically, force everyone's personality to exist to the public eye constantly
even outside of unicorns this is a good thing to do as a streamer

>>103372355
Is this sort of passive aggressive cuck posting your fetish or something? It must be difficult being brown but I'm glad to see that you don't let it ruin your entire life
If you actually went and looked up the information about dating in Japan, you'd realise that the idea of, say, every single JP Hololive girl being currently in a relationship would be unironically less than 0.1% likely. But again that would cut into your ability to cuck-post and virtue signal, so I'm sure you refer to read up on this stuff (or simply lack the intelligence to)

>>103362335 (OP)
Women like popularity (numbers, money)

I just laughed picturing a bunch of numberfags talking about nothing but homo

>>103372549
>If you actually went and looked up the information about dating in Japan
Nta, but there is no information about the rate of dating among wealthy, charismatic, well connected women in their mid to late twenties

>>103372505 (me)
in fact i'm willing to say cover could actually not be brutally eviscerated like yuko yurei by hololive doing male collabs if talents could do the very simple act of not flirting with collab partners and solo streaming everyday

>>103372481
mori hasn't changed but she thinks she is above the homos, and the males that she would like to collab with think she has fallen off. there is the microscopic possibility that she figured out that the only people that even remotely like her content are her fans, or that the normies she wants to appeal to think that both her and her music are cringe, fake and low quality. if there has been any change, it's because the anabolic steroids are eating her brain

>>103372920
>well connected
Lmao they play games in their apartments, they're not "well connected"
>mid to late twenties
The majority of HoloJP are hags at this point.

Once you make an extremely suspicious assumption, you've already hit your limit. If you prioritize not being betrayed, you should return to anime content without real women.

>>103373395
>don't leave your house because you might get killed
you sound like a unicorn false-flagging as an anti. not my fault you don't have the sharingan to detect whores

>>103372549
>Japanese dating market
Completely irrelevant to the topic, you’re only mentioning it because you’re trying to pull a straw man. I mocked your inability to understand figures of speech, yet you’re still trying to lean on the “not all of them” discourse. No shit, not all (100%) of them have boyfriends, I wasn’t being literal, having a boyfriend is not a requirement, it’s commonplace. You try to sound smart, but just come off as autistic.

What a Doomers nest...

>>103366200
>not ASMR either
I beleev

>>103373682
nta but 1. you lost 2. you are arguing with him (and losing) on 4chan.org/vt, what do you think that makes you

>>103373905
>nta
lol ok

this entire thread is a great example that people just enjoy being confidently wrong on the internet, because typing a wall of bullshit that reads like a scalding critique in their mind makes them feel bigger than they are

>>103366200
Yes, anon.
Now you can take that information and apply it to the rest of the branch and the only girls who're truly safe are the homocollabbers.

>>103372942
retard

>>103369807
Yeah? How many of them are rich and relatively famous, with only needing to appear in public for 1-2 hours every few days?

>>103372818
Congrats, you're back in 2022.

its great that Hololive is slowly kicking out the unicorns, the vtuber community doesnt want that toxicity, if a girl wants to collab with a guy then its her decision not some lonely incel like you guys

>>103373682
>commonplace
70% of unmarried women in Japan are not dating someone and the trends are only going in one direction year after year.
So no, it's not common.
>You try to sound smart, but just come off as autistic.
Except you are actually retarded and have no idea what you're talking about, and spend hours cuckposting on /vt/ about your fetish and your shit coloured skin

>>103375143
I've seen delusional before, but this is some new age shit.
So how many chuubas have you been "betrayed" by already? 3? 4?
Rushia would never betray you, right? She even sold wedding rings.

>>103374892
>with only needing to appear in public for 1-2 hours every few days?
You realise appearing less often in pubic makes it harder to date, not easier?

>>103375214
Anon... The "appearing in public" refers to the streams.

>>103375202
>falseflagging as a fan of a Vtuber while cuckposting
Residents of SEA shouldn't be regarded as human beings.

>>103362335 (OP)
No one cares about whores like Shiori, but if FWMC collabed with a man, crazy "bau bau" unicorns would be suicide bombing at Hololive HQ

>>103363307
You should know this is a schizo take. They're hyper weebs that drank the koolaid and believe what they say
If management tried to make them chase noombers and betray their idol intentions you'd see them start streaming as often as Gura with constant tummy hort before quitting

>>103375340
>not even recognizing the vtuber in the image
Okay, ragebaiting tourist. Have fun, I guess.

>>103375394
>If management tried to make them chase noombers and betray their idol intentions you'd see them start streaming as often as Gura with constant tummy hort before quitting
Anon, they're already doing that even without da boiz.

>>103375402
I know who Mint is. I know you're not a fan of her

>>103364468
really good point. they'd quit well before reaching that level of popularity, this scenario could only really happen if all the girls tanked first. Which would probably cause most of them to quit due to whatever was making everyone tank

>>103368930
>outfitschizo
Keep being wrong each day of the week bucko
>Cover would have convinced Gura to agree to a few Tempus collabs
Cover couldn’t get her to stream at all. Don’t apply the rules of others to Gura, she had a different contract and greater sway than everyone else due to her status.

>>103365982
Things turned out well for her either way. She never had to martyr herself by collabing with a male but came out the other side with a fanbase that wasn't as schizo as it could've been because they're crossposting NL fans.
She's in the process of taking the hit still from her announcement but long term she'll be fine.

>>103375462
This should be good.
Please, explain why you think that, and why you believe Mint would agree with you.

>>103375623
>and why you believe Mint would agree with you.
Lol, that's not the reason
Nobody would be retarded enough to avatarfag with their oshi in a bait thread in the catalog, especially if they're acting like a retard and cuckposting for hours. Unless of course you're actually retarded

>>103375692
Why not?
I like having excuses to post my girls. Helps bring a bit more cheer to this sorry state of a forum.

>>103363307
You are wrong.
Yes, they love success and numbers and are much like Koyori in that regard, they work hard.
But they will not do anything just for the sake of some extra subs. For example, they have completely ignored the multiple times those DaVinki faggots tried to interact with them and get them to reply.

>>103362335 (OP)
>Myth
-Ina was talking with various male artists on a danboru art festival - after hours on a somewhat small twitch stream, but still
-Mori is Mori, she needs dick
-Kiara will refuse until management can't work it to where she seemingly HAS to, like when she practiced that one card game with Garnt

>Promise
-Kronii is just depression mode Mori, so she will
-Bae has and will
-IRyS will hold out until they can spin it to be some sort of heavily corporate guided collab

>Advent
-Shiori will, but will wait for the right moment
-Nerissa already had her "brother" (funny how all her PL has her being a family of 5 with no brother until Hololive), so it's no stretch to see her do it again
-Biboo probably will hold off until everyone else reports no massive hit to numbers
-Dogs will die on the hill of Idol

>Justice
-ERB, do we even need to discuss?
-GG probably would, if for the sake of competition over collaboration
-CC would back Kiara and wait it out near forever
-Raora would probably do a Biboo and not even consider it until the pros far outweighed the cons

>>103375341
sharia law but only for anime girls

>>103375747
Oh you actually are retarded then. Jesus Christ

>>103375788
I found a 2020 brother mention in a two-minute search. He’s the real deal.

>>103375986
You should try it, anon. Be free. Just smile.
>>103375788
The dogs are one I'm actually curious on.
I don't know if I agree with them entirely avoiding men because I can 100% see them agreeing to collaborating with japanese comedians in the same way Gigi did.

>>103362820
Many of them sound kinda' gay, but they might just be Asian. Sometimes the fruity ones are actually sex pests behind the scenes.

>>103376175
If you're going to start fights on 4ch, it's probably best not to attach pictures of your oshi to it or else you're going to get people to start hating them

>>103362820
unlike lesbians, gay men are real

>>103370890
>In short, she just wanted to earn money at a relaxed pace. As a non-native Japanese speaker, you are making quite a few unfounded statements.
Shion had the worst pedobait design in Hololive with a mysterious 7 month "health" break in 2024. That makes it really curious that Kurageu Roa chose a cute modest design when she debuted as an indie vtuber. I don't think Yagoo is evil but he obviously doesn't want to lose coomers since they are willing to spend money on sleazy merch.

>>103370967
>New Kaela's boobs
The redesign cost more than a 3D live to give her a new outfit with realistic clothes (tank top, shorts, and jacket) instead of a skin tight dress. Kaela did the same thing as Flare when she avoided her original outfit until she could get a redesign.

>>103375551
>Keep being wrong each day of the week
Ayame got a visual update which added more clothing and made her skirt longer. Vtubers do get attached to their models and only Ayame would have been asking for modesty changes to her default outfit.

>>103375788
>funny how all her PL has her being a family of 5 with no brother until Hololive
source? am lazy

>>103376260
True, but these threads tend to be populated by bad actors who already hate them, so a random pic or three usually gets them steaming.
I don't bring them randomly into threads where they don't belong for that reason.

>>103376762
I think you should try to find some better hobbies or uses of your time

>>103376660
He is wrong.

>>103376892
Yeah, me too.
It's the most fun thing I have on the toilet though once I'm done with today's NYT games.

>>103376984
How long have you been shitting for? Anything more than 5 minutes is actually concerning

>>103377086
My bowels have been fucking me up for years. Doctors are too expensive these days, though. Hopefully my insurance lets me get a checkup soon.

>>103377233
Being anti-unicorn isn't anti-idol, anon.
Even as Pomu she talked about how many idols had boyfriends/husbands but had to hide it for the job, thinking it was unnecessary and sad.

Mandela Effect

>>103368343
Good buddies who block and unfollow each other after one of them got effectively shitcanned. It is baffling to see people still think current Kronii misses the fags when every single point of evidence has pointed to the contrary, to the point of her blocking RM fags who try to pull the "oh it would be hilarious if so and so collabed like they were in a group before" card and ONLY when it's involved the Homo's RMs (and you know you it's because of them because people openly complain about her RM blocking them over this shit).

>>103362335 (OP)
Another therapy thread for ""men"" who are afraid of men

>>103376175
>The dogs are one I'm actually curious on
They wouldn't mind interacting with a industry professionals (comedians, interviewers, music directors...), but they have consistently avoided the stars like the plague since before they even debuted. They unfollowed the Stars’ Twitter accounts before debut (management follows those when they setup the new girls Twitter accounts), they stayed silent on the main channel when the stars appeared on a video even though it could’ve potentially angered management, and they regularly ignore, skip, or ban comments and SCs that mention "the boys" in some way or another.

>>103377549
Did she even actually block them? Kronii's gotten so much shit for every little thing that I wouldn't be surprised if she just does it in private now on discord or something.

I'd be pissed if people started bringing up random people from years ago that you can't contractually talk about, too. Same reason notSana hates getting bombarded with Sana stuff.

Even if supporters of the Democrats preach idealistic principles, many people will prioritize their own immediate interests. It's the same here. Japan, the birthplace of this culture, has had an idol culture for over half a century. In other words, no matter how much they lecture and think they've successfully mind-controlled people, the power to decide whether to pay or not always rests with the consumers. You can't move people's egos with pretty words.

>>103375788
>-Kiara
kek
You don't know about her Niconico streamer days? also there's information that she had experience with that before coming to Japan.

>>103378525
As for Kiara, she's a professional. She's not doing anything stupid at all right now.

>>103372818
They already do that.

>>103378716
She has always been stupid

>>103362335 (OP)
Onstream collabs with male vtubers has literally nothing to do with the "pure idol" ideal and it never has. Only literal schizos and retards believe it does. It's like someone from Japan explained what an idol is to them and they completely misunderstood the concept.

>>103365982
Ironically the "whores" are most likely still virgins

>>103374775
by that logic you'd need to pick girls that have done male collabs in the past but don't spam them nor had melties (no shiori banhammering)...bae and kronii? miko and mio? i'd say zeta too but she DID apparently push the zetaxel ship a little

>>103362335 (OP)
It would depend a lot on management and how they interpret the audience data. If the audiences aren't overlapping at all, it wouldn't make much sense.

>>103368343
Well, yeah that's always true.

>>103362335 (OP)
All of them. Bae and Mori already don't give a fuck so they would be the first ones.