*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/
Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/
Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/
is Gigi unicorn friendly?
Can someone tell me why people pretend ERB's 3d debut was a failure?
It had the 2nd to highest CCV
The highest Superchat amount
The 2nd to highest unique chatters
The highest amount of members chatting
So why is everyone spamming how her 3d debut was a failure? She's clearly the most successful out of the entire Justice gen.
Is ERB back at Great Exardia?
>>103367264Please Liz... Feed CC and GG... They look like starving Somalians..
Really? Don't they still have a justice 3d collab?
>Take the indie pill bro
>the indie pill
>>103367529We don't defend dubais, but if indieshitters LOSE to even homodebuffed Holos, what hope do they have to match unicorn-approved ones?
do holodrones have marching orders to attack indies now or something?
>>103367736yes. we will attack those who try to undermine Cover's brand
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEE!!!
>>103367524>no google dockeyI'm disappointed
>>103367691>>103367695Youtube pays you based on what your video does in total views, not just from your live ccv. Sorry looks like Nimi is making bank while Yagoo is collecting pennies from Advent.
103367725
https://youtu.be/1rzCDwmSvzQ
https://youtu.be/Nj17tbZP4oA
forgot these!
Marine really just did a low effort react stream and said fuck the akatsuki huh.
>>103367524That whole post. Sounda like the perfect place for the indie avengers and the akatsuki honestly.
They can be among people like them!
>>103367764BASED BASED BASED
>>103367749>>103367255>>103367179Cope brown tranny
Unicorns Won
Yaoi faggots are irrelevant botted shitter
>>103367179yikes CC was botted?
>botting ERB so she gets gold
pathetic
>>103367407?
they recorded that weeks ago
>>103367746so... yourself?
>>103367764Absurdly based
>>103367760>Youtube pays you based on what your video does in total viewshow much of a pajeet do you have to be to give a shit about adrev LOL
FUCK OFF ERB I DON'T WANT TO REMEMBER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>103367787ERB > Nimi simply because holos > non-holos
>>103367808just close the stream nigga
>>103367787>unicorns winning anythingPFFFFFFFFFFFFFT
>>103367736>>103367746you can walk away at any time
>>103367764It's funny because the EN avengers' efforts to kneecap EN events completely failed
>>103367736>marching ordersEasy trick to save some money, Gunrun. People see shit they're gonna call it shit, you don't need to hire them.
>>103367808>actually watching
>>103366941 (OP)Bow to you're Numbers Queen Unikeks
We love ERB and Daboiz in #s
NEVER FORGET LMAO
>>103367760Yagoo is losing money paying for bots.
What I'm getting from this is that Naplings are actual botters and they are melting over Erb's 10k+ karaoke mogging Nimi...
PTSD SONG AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
>>103367804How you think Mr. Beast/Speed made their Millions? With CCV or their overall video views?
>>103367837you cannot buy what's given for free
>>103367821if it's something like that Apocalypto scene where they free their slaves, but they have to survive getting speared on their way out, then yeah.
>>103367825>missing some of the best karaoke in EN
Having to bot is admitting failure btw. If you bot, you admit the streamer would have low numbers without you.
>>103367760>Youtube payskek
>>103367820Do you think Saba still has enough funds to buy out her award now that she lost allher simps?
>>103367837>Yagoo is losing money paying for bots.STOP TALKING GUNRUN AND VSHOJOKE!
KEKE!!!!
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>ITT liggertroons fighting with homobotting shitters
well now that's a funny twist
That raid from Kronii, Ame, Mori collab to Gigi's stream on that day was so fucking hilarious. One of the few moments of board unity
>>103367852I'm not watching homocollabers
>>103367179>why is everyone spamming how her 3d debut was a failure?Maybe in your mind? ERB is someone that only gets brought up when people want to shitpost and rile the thread up, other than that even GG oji has a higher mindchair
>>1033678588.5k likes btw
That's nearly Nimi's peak CCV just 1k away
>>103367837Yagoo is losing money making Merch and then not being able to sell it. That Acrylic plastic ain't free to make you know.
this thread smells like pagpag
>>103367852I hate her voice, idc how well she sings.
>>103367825holoEN member streams, I watch
>>103367834this but unironically
>>103367787Can someone explain to me while someone would shit on ERB because of homocollabs to defend Nimi of all people????
Your belief system in regards to male interactions makes no fucking sense.
>>103367867>HOLO PODIUM SWEEPWHERE. IS. THE. COMPETITION.
>>103367179>It had the 2nd to highest CCVshit was botted shes the lowest, couldnt even break 50k
>The 2nd to highest unique chatters>The highest amount of members chatting
>holodrones are sea.
oh no no no hahaha
>>103367820>>103367816>Vshojo is Dead>Niji is dying and no longer can compete with Hololive Yep Total Unicorn /CGDCT /Idol Culture Victory
>>103367858Yeah, that chart looks sus l, reminds me of the Clio one
>>103367867GOT MOGGED BY THE DEAD COMPANY
>BOTTED>HOLO VS HOLO>HOMOSTARSKEK!!!
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>>103367858>>103367300who the fuck is watching her? did she unironically get all the old nijiEN audience or something? who the fuck are these people
https://x.com/mcdonaldsjapan/status/1954860355668279573
McDonalds JP just got involved in an extreme yab and now they're being forced to apologize for it!
Oh nice, at one point it was looking like a NijiEN stream could possibly get cripple gold but now NijiEN didn't even make the podium
>>103367867INDIE AVENGERS ABSOLUTELY MOGGED
>>103367867>Not a single indie in sightHuh???
>>103367866I wish Kronii did more Inzoi chatting streams.
Holofags, stop victory lapping
>>103367921>>103367867>>103367770Uh oh, what happenned to your indie avengers gunrun?
Jusy like that hilolive wins forever?
KEK
>>103367834Do you mean Saba and Miko, right ?
>>103367902>if you don't like the married grifter you are a vshojo/niji shillwut
>>103367898>covercuck coping with their golden gooses loss to a male collaborativeAhahaha pajeet melty
>>103367955Move out of the way gunrun yoy're getting trampled
>>103367524This post almost feels like a callous of Ironmouse.
>>103367858She peaked at 8-9k before the bots
>>103367917Hololive fans I think
>>103367955I'LL DO LAPS ALL DAY
WATCH THIS
>>103367990ALL indies are snakes, anon. That includes Ironmouse, that includes ex-holos, and that includes the ones doing the call outs
>>103367999>She peaked right below Nimi according to my assWhat a coincidence
>>103368007nah it's Hololive fans since homobeggars don't watch streams
>>103368000I wouldnt exactly call fans of karaoke, hololive fans. There are some mixed in there though.
>>103367858Biboo is a failure?
>>103367983>collaborativejesas christ
>>103367893Napcucks have lot all consistency in their arguments at this point.
>>103367983>covercuck coping with their golden gooses loss to a male collaborativeSTILL HOLO WON
KEK
PAG PAG
ESL....
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Bow down to the Queen and her Kings you Cucks! The Age of Lesbos is over! The Age of the Homo is now!
>>103368018Saba and Dooby are no snakes
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>>103368066next time don't put statements that could be used against you. :)
If a Hololive member wins I celebrate simple as
>>103368071TRUE QUEEN
BUT FORGOR ABOUT SORA COLLABS WITH HOMOSTARS
ERB has more likes than Nimi's peak CCV btw
>>103368071based erbie the unity queen
>"indie acengers" & "akatsuki"
>look inside
>bots, marriage, garbage cintent playing shogi, backstabbing snakes, vshojo funding
I'll stick with ERB, thanks
>>103368017>>103368019>>103368056>>103368061>concedes cover corps golden goose lost in her prime to a fat man and mousey kek
>>103368031>>103368083Reine raided her after getting raided by EN
>>103368071>DONT LOOK FOCUS ON ERB
>>103368077Same thing was claimed about Nimi, and the only shitty indie thing she has yet to do is bring up politics. She couldn't even ignore the Vshojo collapse dramashit.
/#/ actually seething and coping Holy shit, it's been a long time, the last time being Salome winning almost everyday
>>103368018I'd argue that indies that are solos who are contempt in their own niche have a smaller chance to be like that. But collaborative ones yeah.
>>103367967>>103368120We can't loose with the likes of Queen Liz leading the culture change through all of Hololive.
>>103368134don't worry, Kaela will get hers soon enough!
>>103368121This has to be intentional. What's your primary language?
>>103368129the meltdown is genuinely funny to watch from both sides
it's like a zoo
>>103368126Speaking of Rio
One of his cover hit 1M
Power levels
Unicorn Approved Holo JP(Miko) > Homocollaber Holo JP (FBK) > Unicorn Approved Holo EN (Biboo) > Homocollaber Holo EN (Shiori) >>> indie shitter
Don't you forget it, indiepag
>13k viewers
>almost 10k likes
botted your ass, faggot
>>103368127Neither could Saba, she followed ironlung and donated to her anti-holo trolls salary fundraiser
>>103368139kek, not part of your culture war retard
>>103368162>More likes than Nimi's ccvAIIIIIEEEE NIMIBROS WHAT COPE DO WE USE NOW?
>Monkeys are talking to each other
SEA hours....
>>103368139WOWWWWW!!!
FIRST TIME IN HOLOLVIE
HACE COLLABS WITH
THE HOMO
OMGGGGGGGG!!!!
ITS OVER!!!!!!
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!
>>103368136>solo indie>look inside>follows nimi and ironmouse
>>103368151Uh oh your mad
Mousey won
Pagora lost kek
>>103368185how can i making this about nimi
>>103368169kek, I didn't know that, even the girl once known for her complete avoidance of all drama couldn't stay out? Not a good look for the indie world.
>ERB just says "daisuki"
>Massive amounts of Jap chats
Let this be a lesson: all indies are snakes who should be blacklisted from the walled garden forever
>>103368190gurrun won
11M+
kek!!
The indieavengers are losing their mind since last thread
Vtubers I don't like - botted
>>103368207Only if Mint is included
>>103368169Proof dhe donated?
SEA hours got rejuvenated? They were more peaceful than nimi hours in the past weeks
what changed?
>>103368206So in the end, Gura was nothing special huh. They just needed a better singer to latch onto
>>103368206nipbros love ERB
>>103368162It's also plateauing now it seems, been around 13.5k for a while.
>>103368210>Still Seething Kek mousey won
Fagoo and covercorp got humiliated at the game awards
Kek
ERB was singing September when I checked in which for obvious reason is a very buff karaoke song for Justice. It looks like the song before September was also a fairly popular/buff one as well if I'm reading the graph correctly. After those 2, the graph has acted fairly normal as ERB sang her usual debuff tunes
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her new shorts are popping off
>>103368206Maybe the myth of the polite Japanese fanbase have some true to it?
Idk, at least for me, unless I want to send a SC, I almost never chat
>>103368206They do love their Zabe-san
>>103368243too bad her growth is already in the gutter
>>10336821775%? Clearly botted. She needs to get 50% max like Nimi.
>>103368230ERB stomped on their tiny homo hating balls
LMAO
>>103368237>Buy out the game awards>implode a few minths laternot a good look gunrun
>>103368215I remember when holofags said their corpo wasn't coombaiting shit like Twitch whores
>>103368231she's negligible for Cover
>>103368217>Fucked up ratio des-HOLY FUCK 0 LIKES
>>103368245They won't spam chat of an EN streamer because the streamer won't know understand they're saying, unless the streamer initiates it
>>103368218>>103368267Poor corpocuck coping with their loss to the indie community once again
>>103368264this is why the best approach to homocollabers is to ignore the nasty collabs and just enjoy their solo content and collabs with girls to avoid mindbreak
>>103368273Has he disabled them ever since the gang rape thing?
>>103368189If they're looking to leech then they're not really solos now, are they?
>>103368270>niji memeyou ain't slick. There's nothing wring with cutting off a cancer like gura
>>103368268It's okay when hololive does it
>>103368282I was agreeing with you lil bro
VSHOJO TO THE MOON
>the indie community
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>103368230Nah their 3 day vacations just expired anon
We should give them another one for the hell of it
>>103368285she loves the boys
>>103368285They're too stupid to do that
Is it brownraid time already? Time really flew by today
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AIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
What is the most tolerable reason for graduation?
>>103368304>concedes pagora lost to mousey
>>103368256Never underestimate short spamming anon
It's the reason why Filian skyrocketed to begin with
blud thinks the indie "community" is a single entity not full of grifters and girls leeching from each other
>>103368340Is kuzuha's IP dead?
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>>103368243on topic of shorts, DOOOORYAAAAA
I want to pronebone AZKi's pale hag ass until pregnant
>>103368342Health
Honesty about just wanting to move on in life
>>103368342Degenerative sickness that a hiatus won't help with. That's it.
>>103368340what a stupid blunder from the king, he's supposed to collab with only males to get views
>>103368354Who is pagora? I only know the big VSHOJO names like Zentreya and Ironlungs
>>103368256Better than Nimi's
>>103368362To be fair, Hololive is not a monolith either
The only thing keeps them together is (unironically) management act as a barrier and mender of conflict
>>103368342Got a better career opportunity outside of vtubing and had to mutually terminate the current contract
>>103368358are shorts still good?
felt like they were stronger last year
smile
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pls consider
learn to drop hate
invest in a smile
love will come
maybe you will like it
ERB is releasing her first proper orisong (the full version of that song for that RP thing) once Season 1 ends
Whenever that is
Kronii wouldโve done better
>>103368358I don't think it gets subs like it used to, Niko gets good shorts views and hasn't rocketed a ton. Also might be different for EN anyway, Mori has a bunch of shorts with good views and it barely does shit for her subs.
>>103368342Disliking the corpo.
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>>103368256>>103368408Raden got to 1 million with a single short
>>103368389>Still Deflecting from pagora's loss to mousey
>>103368408Raden went from literal who to a sizable talent thanks to this
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A Horny Money World
https://youtu.be/2_opjVlYhi4?si=qB6RhjtGy-QXFkFd
>>103368430it's cute that she keeps up the kayfabe of still living with her parents
>>103368400Honestly there is no better job than streaming while pretending to be anime girl
>>103368470Shes basically shiori tier whenever she streams, no?
>>103368396wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
>>103368455Are indie avengers shills really gay communists who hate Cover for proving that capitalism works? LMAO
>>103368470I still don't get it. I don't think I'll ever understand tiktok / shorts
>>1033684554.99 for a bibidibum? What a STEAL!
>>103368506Is this anon baiting grudgeposts or is he absolutely retarded?
>>103368427There is a reason Filian went from 20k subs per week to 20k subs month
https://socialblade.com/youtube/handle/filianislost
The fact that non of the Ex-Holo graduated girl has willingly collabed with males since their graduation(Coco doesn't count she joined Vshojo)
Should tell you everything about Cover's management and who's forcing the collabs.
>>103368506HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
>>103368523 it is fucking gokischizo how new are you
>>103368500>>103368475>saba/hololive antis don't know about billy maysSigh
>>103368492Raden is one of the JP talents that's big outside of streaming like Suisei.
She gets a shitload of sponsorships.
>>103368512>JP homobeggars are poor
>>103368523>indie faghe's retarded. They're not even smart enough to bait
>>103368535botted vs natty
>>103368342Better career opportunities/ transitioning into something more serious in the entertainment industry (Reserved for tip top talent)
Marriage / Wants to pursue serious relationships (Most common for idols)
Health reasons (It's unfortunate but you can't literally go against this)
In that order
Last thread where we had gobs of undeleted porn was much better than this shit
>>103368532It doesn't tells me anything since there are hologirls who don't collab with fags at all retardchama that angle is fucking busted
>>103368544saba/hololive
HAHAHAHAHAHA
LITERALLY HOLO BEGGING 1 MONTH AFTER LEAVING
HOLY GRIM
>>103368544begging is still sad, even when it's a reference
>>103368558>2nd after GGAnon?
>>103368492She's a household name in Japan now and gets first army levels of sponsorship opportunities
All the numbers are natty. Every single last one. Cease questioning things.
>>103368532The girls that graduated weren't homocollabers to begin with (except ame but she has saba everyday now).
Nimi did announce her marriage though?
>>103368545Yeah Im aware, just that her getting that 1M doesnt translate to ccv since she got it purely through shorts. Its not good or bad, I guess.
>>103368532>Gura and Saba were never homocollabers>Ame stopping homocollabing before graduatingwhat is this angle my man, do better
Just like that total indie death?
>>103368587>>103368588Vshojo is not paying you fags anymore, and phase will stop being able to soon enough
Might want to find an alternative "career"
>>103368532>The woman who announced she's trying for a child left because management is forcing male collabsYeah okay
>>103368545>>103368592Is it because she's the only one who's interested in actual culture stuffs instead of Internet culture?
uhoh Roabros we are losing viewers
>>103368506>slightly better CCV>10k more likesI'm noooooooticing
>>103368544>if you don't care abou Saba you are holoanwild logic
Next roa-ruka collab: 5k ccv
>>103368528She gets 10k subs per month because of her size retard
You can only see the real pace of growth sub milly and she exponentially grew when she spammed shorts
The only exception to this is Gura/Saba
>>103368615>vshojo payimg holofans tp shit on indiesHoly retard
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>>103368544Retard fish cute
>>103368591>1week advantage and rara and cici already on their way to pass heruh oh... we have to loop the erb 3d on discord ERBbros...
>phase number one envtuber company
only Phase OriginS have 3D
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I took some screenshots when she spoke some japanese and her chat was filled with JP bros but I did it on my phone. How do I merge them into one long image or do I need to post them one at a time? Use the SC disappearing timer as a proof of continuity I guess
>>103368599They blew most of the bot on her chamer appearance
>>103368558Liz stood with the boiz and still beat the rest of justice without bugman help or coom bait.
>>103368648>fag can't even type>its clear its him and his gay friend shitposting>ERM IM TOTALLY A HOLOLIVE FAN
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>>103368614https://x.com/baovtuber/status/1954586610730967424
indie life
>>103368625>as soon as a holo stream starts all the actual viewers leave the indie snakes stream to watch it leaving only the bots
>>103368663I wish we could bet on it because it's guaranteed easy money
>>103368669Can't you just ... Wait after the stream and take the chat cloud from VRabi instead? Surely there will be some JP in there
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>>103368677>browncucks Still Seething at pagora's loss to mouseyKek
>>103368669You do know that every hologirls has JP fans and they show up every time they speak moonrunes
Are you niggers new or something wtf is this
>>103368636Anon, he's saying that her sub growth is down because YouTube changed something with the shorts algorithm and it's no longer as easy to farm subs with them, which is what was being discussed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVbplaLvcDA
Why is she lying again. We all know who's her real oshi
>>103368683you said collab
>>103368675>Liz stood with the boiz>without bugman help or coom bait.Literal Homo coomers on her 3D
>>103368677>incomprehensible indie cope
>>103368293niji invented negligible
Listening to AZKi and Riona is like listening in to a wholesome phone call between mom and daughter and for some reason it's making me hard
>>103368695Well there was some argument last thread about her having JP viewers
>>103368689Sure saves me the trouble of posting the images
>>103368701no she talked about korone many times during this year, you're just coping. I'm sorry they don't hate each other
>>103368710>>103368648>>vshojo payimg holofans tp yeah, you truly are incomprehensible
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hmm
>>103368675>still beat the rest of justiceDid not, not in ccv, not in SC
And with some flip homopagpag
Shameful
>>103368704The EOP dramatourists won't watch the next Collab now that the novelty is gone. I guarantee it.
Remember Ruka debuted to 174k and now she struggles to get 2k.
>>103368553at this point i just like to throw any random shit in this thread because i know i get a bunch of (you)s with it.
>>103368721She has JP viewers, like any Holo girl. She has barely any JP mindshare.
So do you guys actually watch streams or do you just sit here and see the 24/7
>>103368701Uh oh, phase melty
So wait, is Ruka currently โnotโ dating her genmate? I thought that was the whole point
>>103368285> Serious Cope Detected.
>>103368695why are you getting mad
>>103368711Deflecting won't change the past cuckie mousey won pagora lost
>>103368754Gokischizo is melting down because gokisei won
>>103368713indie snakes and china invented being a liability
>>103368753>She has barely any JP mindshare.How can we even measure that anyway?
>>103368765Because you fags are retarded? She's having a karaoke at JP hours no shit japs are going to show up in chat when she speaks jap
Are you that new to hololive?
>>103368745>EOP dramatouristslol
>>103368695I've never seen a guy more stubbornly be in denial about something this inconsequential.
>wplace still down
My brazillian niggas please fix your shit
>>103368754Nothing indies do is ever genuine, anon. She will probably backstab her to go hang out with a popular ex-holo if she hasn't already
>>103367867>Indie avengers mogged to the oblivion>Niji slowly dying>VShojo already fucking deadJust like that HoloGODS simply can't stop winning? LMAO
>>103368809In denial about what?
>>103368797https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/1mmhcnq/its_finally_happening_the_jp_indie_avengers_will/
>EOP dramatourists aren't realRetard
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https://cover-corp.com/en/ir/calendar
>>103368742She literally did all on her own with an active debuff, the others had to go all out and pander like crazy.
>>103368786JP clips, social media presence, her chat, and not when its an unarchived at JP prime time.
>>103368794why are you getting mad
>>103368849Nene looks odd here
>>103368832In the nile of being a cutie!
>>103368813just checked it
it's up
>>103368854>Just quantify her social media presence in Japan bro
>>103368849It's still funny how Cover shilled them so hard only for them to shit on janitors and become the most unpopular gen in hololive
>>103368848The "others" give a shit about their job and used that opportunity to do fun shit with their branchmates
Your red whore used hers to prop up a bunch of flip homonigger and now the peak of her career will always be "based she had armpiss on her 3D"
And even the shit wavebots were not enough to boost her above a big retarded sex cat
>>103368883Pipe down EN tard vshojo died this year your market is dead for a reason.
>>103368879I can't fucking log in though
>>103368849Holo could use a horse girl, all those animal girls and they have no equines.
>>103368753idk bro I think out of all of justice erb or cc might have the biggest mindshare
>>103368881I gave a few other examples. Like, does she have dedicated JP clippers like some other girls do?
How long until Roa runs out of money and begs to be let back into hololive? Or did she get blacklisted?
>>103368896yeah I had that issue a couple days ago
have to wait I guess
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>>103368913>How long until Roa runs out of money?
>>103368913I doubt anyone who wasn't terminated is blacklisted
>Millions of dollars a years
>tens of thousands of viewers
>Millions of subscribers
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>>103368936So she's gonna keep grifting the most gullible losers in japan until she inevitably gets exposed for being a snake. Then what?
come to think of it, gunrun probably paid for ironlung to get CC of the year award didnt he?
>>103368933>concedes pagora lost to indie mousey
>>103368903I would say CC or GG, they participated the most in JP box streams, especially recently.
>>103368913she's never coming back and doesn't need holomoney anymore, she wants to be an indie and collab with her indie friends
>>103368957Why are you seething
>>103368888Last time I checked the branches you hate are still Holo and need all the exposure they can get so no you can't say ERB doesn't care about her job idiot.
>>103368953>>103368936Wanna bet that Roa and Sakuna are the ones funding the anti-holo shitposting these days?
>>103368959>CC of the year award
>>103368989why are you pretending to be a kronie
>>103368982>friendsuntil the google dockey drops LOL
>ERB planning to be in Holo for a long time
So much for some of those rrats.
>>103368990Don't need fund that, wait for the next Graduation/Termination to happen and the Doom posting will just naturally happen on Twitter.
>>103368989Don't use my maidwives to jerk off your homoniggers you shit eating pagpag faggot
>>103368970Oh shit, that blue hair loli is a Niji? I keep seeing porn if her in my Twitter feed
>>103369013Honestly, no one is ever leaving of their own free will ever again now that they've seen what happens
>>103369013you want her to say she's leaving soon? she has to pretend to be happy. graduation pretty soon because of feeling isolated and ignored by her branchmates
>>103368983>do not point out how vshojo members clearly made a deal with gunrun to get away from vshojo without getting their names dirty in return for not suing him>do not point out that phase is dying>do not point out that nijien no longer exists>just repeat holoxholo or xholoxholo
>>103368989>shitter on the lefts merch still hasn't sold out kek
I just cant hate erb bros
reminds me of a relative thats just happy I still visit
even though I just go there for free food
>>103369037>now that they've seen what happensbeing succesful indies that no longer have to share revenue with a useless corpo?
>>103369002Don't respond to me you schizo faggot, put another hole in your wall and then in your head.
>>103369025>graduation beggingBetter hope you live a long life, retard, no one else is leaving until retirement age
>>103369029Maud shitter kek
>>103369042Not only are you putting words in my mouth, you both brought up something irrelevant to the original point, as this was about Roa, and you did not answer the question. Why are you seething?
>>103369061The snakes that this appeals to have already left.
>>103369062stop pretending to be a kronie then
>>103369036>hat blue hair loli is a Niji? I keep seeing porn if herI'm sorry to inform you that she's almost 40 and waay older than Mito
>>103369061Nimi losing to everyone in HoloEN was devastating for this thread.
>>103368989>>103369062All your threadshitting will not make anybody cares for your homos.
>>103369041She was just talking about interacting with other Holos a few minutes ago, doesn't sound that isolated.
>>103369013No one will be leaving now that all of the exholos are entering the kson dead spiral
What is the fun of playing in creative server? unlimited block?
>>103369093>getting tired of corpo bullshit = being a snake
>>103368989>and need all the exposure they can getThey had plenty of exposure already homosis, none of that worked because they can't even pretend to care about themselves as a team, kys
>>103369061You know that talking point doesn't work anymore right?
>>103369110Who lol? I dont hear anyone ever bring her up.
>>103368636As
>>103368697 pointed out, my whole point is that shorts is no longer a โinfinite subs glitchโ endeavor and thatโs why her growth tapered down and, at the same time, is the reason many content creators (Filian included) no longer spam it
>>103369100Hope she retires or gets fired soon so that some of the blue hair loli freaks are forced to draw Roa instead. She needs art badly to increase her mindshare to Shion levels
>>103369104she's making more money than any HoloEN except Mori, Kiara and Fuwamoco
>>103369107Yagoo cares and that's all that matters.
>>103368978i think gigi has the least. she doesnt really care about jp fans and hates interacting with jps due to language barrier. and her streams are the least jop friendly out of justice i think
>>103368959probably didn't even have to pay most likely just knew people working for the game awards
its the same shit with how vshojo got favorable coverage with all the game sites
>>103369119From where I'm standing, the shit in the indie world seems far worse than just having a few games you can't get perms for. Like 90% of the stuff indies play is the same as Holos anyway.
>>103369133You should make your list public, on cat box maybe
>beggar hiding behind Irys
>>103369155>SHE DISABLED SCs SHE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT MONEY>SHE'S PRINTING MONEYWhich one is it?
>>103369159You tell that to the JP homos who are drowning kek
Riona's voice is really goofy
>>103369119You can be tired of the hard parts of working together towatds something without sabotaging everyone by stealing part of the cake and leaving with it
>>103369060Hate?
I completely forgot about her, until the homobeggers started spamming about her botted streams
>>103369179I have thought about it but i need to clean out it somewhat from other stuff that isn't relevant
>>103369160Im going by how much shes actually shown herself to that audience, by appearing on certain streams.
>>103369110she's a homocollaber, she thinks homos are holos
>>103369191Itโs not like the EN homos are doing any better, theyโre acting like the JP homos in that โlikely last concertโ of theirs
>>103369147Gigi and Nerissa. Also talked about saying goodbye to the girls and how she would see them in a few weeks.
>>103369112only the JP ones, the ENs are thriving
>19 results for "kek" in this thread
man it really IS SEA hours!
>>103369133i knew name seemed familiar
>>103369250Brown cuck Seethe
>>103369067>>graduation beggingLol many Holomen are coming up on their anniversaries ie Contract renewal (or contract ending) season, brace your tight little asshole.
>>103369250For 400 posts that's literally nothing. We literally get more during Napling hours
>>103369181she disables SC because she doesn't want to share with YT. Buy her merch instead
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>>103369235So her genmate and the one girl shes been leeching since debut, k.
>>103369250all me I'm just a jolly guy that likes to laugh
>>103369196>no you cannot be a vtuber after you leave you are damaging the brandfuck off lol
>>103369272erb would be the top in SC of justice if she actually streamed
>>103369290Ao but of course we will celebrate that one
>>103369264HAHAHAHAHA AN ACTUAL GRAUATION BEGGAR
-1 Niji again
>>103369264My negro you are fucking late
>>103368633gunrun's paid shills are going fucking nuts on this thread kek
>>103369277>Claim her genmates are isolating her>Talking about her genmate doesn't countOK.
>>103369309you said many, name many holomen
>>103369067ao vill graduate and marine vill go full menhera
>>103369041I'm not sorry to tell you this, but it wouldn't help your case of undermining Hololive even if what you said came true, just like all the other times of praying and hoping people graduate, pretending like you cared about them, and they end up just ports in a sea of storms of indies that everyone wants to cozy up to, but it never works out. You can pray Hololive goes under any day now, seething when it doesn't, then repeat the process, or you can rest your weary soul and move along.
>>103369308yeah and did nothing but karaoke
>>103369181Both can be true. SCs could be disabled because she has no incentive to enable them; they're just an avenue for drama especially right now with LLD in recent history. But she's still making a pretty penny off of her memberships, ad revenue, and merch sales. Remember, for the former two things, her channel could be half as healthy as a Holo's and still be putting the same amount of money in her pocket.
Where she, and other indies, really lose out is sponsorships, not that she ever did any of those anyway. Those can be really good money, I'm sure. But what's the split? we'll likely never know.
>>103369328I never claimed that, just that no other girls bring her up.
>>103369272>Liz mogg3d bibots anniversary with a random karaokePffft ahahahahaha
>>103369320holy shit
Is that why we are so fast? Ligtroons getting uppity again!
I'll buy merch later to cheer on their seethe
>>103369293>mikeneko shit>kson vshojo scam>sakuna sketchy shit with gaou>lore drop!>sabadoob justice overlapI'm proven right every single time. All indies are snakes.
>>103369320>concedes pagora lost to mousey
>>103369369What are you trying to say, that all women can't be trusted unless there's rules to keep them in line?
>>103369362got mogged
>Holo vs HoloHomostar home
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
>>103369272>bots 3D live>bots karaokesimple as is
>>103369272Why is your image tinted?
>>103369336not that guy, just mentioned the one I know about
>>103369369>sakuna sketchy shit with gaoumight as well call you mr. fantastic with how you're stretching here
>>103368342having more than 3 kids one after other
its ok to be married and have kids in hololive btw but more than 3 requires more time and attention
>>103369341I only want ERB gone though? Don't know why you are talking about Hololive as a whole
>>103369410Oh but "abloo bloo some indies overlapped justice" is totally good as if when you quit cover you gotta forever be mindful of what they're doing that day?
ok the amount of seethe is funny, did something happen in ligcucklandia?
>>103369410He knew sakuna's real age, they were way too close. When he claims to have bagged a popular vtuber it's not hard to guess which one.
The state of this thread now that Saba and Nimi barely lose to holoEN make me wonder how bad it'll be a few months from now once their novelty has completely worn off.
Here's hoping they'll forget they exist like Dooby.
>>103369320>op admits to samefagging>>103369363>>103369405why are shitposters so fucking weak nowadays? all it takes is a little bit of pushback
>>103369435I didn't even see that one as worth addressing. But blaming Sakuna for something that her artist did, the same artist from when she was in Holo? Shit would have gone down the same whether or not she'd left, so it doesn't even make sense to mention.
>>103369453it's just erbcucks and unicucks fighting each other again
>>103369290My biggest bets are Kiara and Korone. They'll be gone/announce by the end of the year.
Ao and Iroha's futures are also very shaky.
>>103369461The beauty of course is that we can manufacture wins and losses to incite whatever reactions we want, just like we always have. We're doing it right now, even
>27k likes vs 8k likes
Embarrassing performance from gen 5, losing to two smol indies doing a debuff collab
>>103369477Remind me to never let you bet for me at a casino nigga damn
>>103369467>Would've been the same if she was in holoBut, crucially, she's not in holo, is she?
Because she left, because she's a snake.
Good riddance.
She's talking about why Nerissa wasnt there
>She knew the other girls were picking Nerissa
>decided not to have her and added her as an animation instead
>expects to have more 3D lives so she'll save that for the future
>>103369477>Year 5 of 2 more weeks until Kiara graduates
>>103369490>World Tour>Japan and China ?
>>103369477>betsI hope you aren't betting anything precious, anon...
>>103369490china world
wwwwwwwwwwwww!!
>>103369477from those only Ao is leaving
>>103369547WAO! Thatโs amazing , how did nobody figure that out!?
>>103369511>even ERB will have a 3D Live Fauna...
>>103369477>>103369540>He rhinks anyone is leavingJaHAHAHAHA oh man you're ridiculous
>>103369477>Koroneweird angle
>>103369507I was one of the people said Gura was gonna graduate late last year, and early this year, it happened! I even said Shion would also bite the dust in 2025 she hadn't been doing too well in 2024. I did not predict Chloe Fauna or Mumei those one's surprised me.
>>103369578Anon hates the letter โKโ
>>103369580Big retard energy
>>103369511>expects to have more 3D lives so she'll save that for the futureI don't think it's like ... HER live, but she's expecting to join other concerts/events
>>103369580>I "predicted" the easiest graduations!! I must have something in me!! I'm so smart!!!You sound like an indian ngl
>>103369569>6 months break>nobody talks about her anymore except for Marine>all of Regloss projects are fine and working as if Ao never existedyes, she's out, just waiting for her contract to expire around anniversary date
>>103369580Brother if you WEREN'T predicting Gura and Shion you're a fucking idiot. I can't think of 2 more checked out holos
>>103369579>>103369578 She's already dropping Hints. And she recently moved out to the countryside further from the Holo Studio. And she refused to shill out Holo Merch showing signs of disillusion with the company.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjaJCFvG9GI&t=181s
>>103369528proof?
>>103369547yeah, thanks to her the homos are getting 8k ccv yippee!
>>103369601Kson feet on my face and cock
>>103369580>I predicted the most obvious graduations ever that were telegraphed for years would happen that means my random guesses are also correctGood job. Gura was basically outright telling people during membership streams. You're deductive skills are truly amazing.
>>103369625>korone's graduating>here's a clip of her explicitly saying she has no plans of graduating, as proofhave fun with the rest of the threads anon, not here for this kind of retardation
>>103369614I just don't see why would she graduate, I know she was a pretty big menhera in the past but she's worked through almost everything and this is her best shot at being successful
>>103369608that's her own words
>>103369625Yeah, Iโm with you here. I as well made some predictions, got Twisty and Aster right.
Missed VShojo imploding tho
>>103369580>last yearmy nigger in christ, everyone knew she was gone by 2022
>We have actual indie avengers beggars
Who's funding them this time? Gunrun? Or is it the Saba/Sakuna themselves
Gotta say that's ungraceful of them. If you couldn't convince your colleagues to leave with you then respect their decision! Don't start running interference from the shadows. I expected better. We should boycott them and ban mentionning them in these threads like on tower
>>103369625>Clipwatcher who didn't even watch the clip
>>103369511Why would she talk about it at all?
>>103369663If you throw enough shit at the wall something will eventually stick. That doesn't mean you aren't a retard
>>103369569>"za menhera BPD vith more personalities than dooby vill not graduate!"
>>103369649because she's mentally ill and a quitter, Cover didn't do their scouting job properly
>>103369642if it doesn't happen on a public stream, it might as well not happen because it's not something that can be backed up by clip evidence.
>>103369614>Miko is totally gonna graduate after her hiatus guys, trust meNijisis? Is that you?
I feel like a good number of posters here these days did not live through EN's GRIM era
Either that or they conveniently ignore it when comparing all the things the departed girls didn't do (because they weren't given the chance) to all of the things the new girls have done or are doing (because they were given the chance, precisely because the previous girls left in frustration over not being able to do said things)
>>103369690Please tell me you're posts are bait
>>103369649Aqua was on top the world when she graduated, 4th highest ccv average, especially on her Apex Streams, had one of the strongest fanbases in Holo and with overseas bros. But then decided to bounce anyways.
>>103369704i dont care about history, i just want to shitpost
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cc does the T pose because this makes her uncomfortable
>>103369704Ah yeah, the new girls like Kiara, Ina, Bae and Kronii
>>103369689ya but it's been over a year and she didn't show any signs of her old ways, anyways it wouldn't be shocking if it did happen but it doesn't sound reasonable at this stage
>>103369717Fair, carry on
>>103369667Too right. I'm extremely dissapoimted on one hand but on the other hand we're better off without girls like that in the walled garden. It's a Rushia situation is all it is
>>103369511will any girl even want to join her 3D's now that its essentially guaranteed to have the homos?
>>103369704Totally retarded when there has been many girls who fought for it all and didn't left
Change didn't happened just now
It happened back in 2023 when omega got the boot and the 2 homonigs died
>>103369704>old good new badno one cares grandpa everyone is free to make their choice
>>103369682Someone in chat said nerissa was the 5th justice member
>>103369747The same ones that joined this time?
>>103369662*yoink* she's mine now
>>103369714We know why Aqua left though and it's shady shit. Ao has nothing like that, Marime obviouslyapproves of her
>>103369694>Ignored by Dev_Is>not part of any of their projects>Regloss more united than ever without hershe's not even needed, most of the Regloss and JP fans have already forgotten she exists and think of the group as 4 members. I don't know why you are defending Aruran's cocksleeve anyways
Seen a very pretty child at work today
>>103369714aqua was also extremely lazy so it made sense she left to stream only 2 times a month and not do idolwork
>>103369580Of all the Holo graduations in the last year, the only ones who were not considered most likely were Fauna and Chloe. Good job predicting the ones everyone else was predicting and missing the ones no one talked about.
>>103369778what are you doing with my wife?
>>103369470Rosarians don't exist
i want to cum on CCs legs
>>103369649>and this is her best shot at being successfulI say the road she was sold and the road she ended up taking diverged significantly.
She was supposed to be โShe-Princeโ, the irresistible harem protagonist towards which every Holo girl and every female Holo fan would throw themselves at her feet.
But the thing is:
>she doesnโt have the model >she doesnโt have the voice>she doesnโt have the charisma and worse: she doesnโt have the support of the Holo fanbase because she was marketed from the getgo as โnot for the current audience consumption, keep awayโ meaning she doesnโt even have a preexisting fanbase to lift her to the place she needed to be.
Towa, Okayu and Flare all could play and have played โikemen harem protagonistโ before with great success
>to a point Flare had to SCOLD the audience trying to make them stop and Ao clearly couldnโt fill their shoes and ended up living out of the scraps that fell from Holo girls tables (and the sympathy thrown her way by Marine).
My opinion is that sheโs either graduating or pivoting hard, getting a new model and a new role because she already prove โshe princeโ is out of her reach
>>103369704Maybe they shouldn't have been quitter pussies.
Not that I believe that Fauna would have done shit. Fucking Shiori is doing more with the opportunities she's given.
>>103369736>she didn't show any signs of her old waysyeah she didn't take a break out of nowhere for some made-up condition while still posting videos somewhere else and hanging out with Marine. Wait...
>>103369683Oh, yeah!?! I predicted Reimu as well and Iโm currently 90% on Ren Zotto
>>103369511THE RRATS ARE WINNING HARDER. EACH DAY
>>103319228>>103319596
>>103369647Of course she's not gonna say it right there and then, and will instead just say what people want to hear so there's no panic. But even Miko knew right there what Korone was really hinting at.
>>103369802lock in the fwmc morning prep fuwawa
>>103369736>she didn't show any signs of her old waysa-anon, she said she didnt have this disorder shit since 5 years ago, all her menhera stuff happened 5 years ago...
>>103369818>with the opportunities she's givenMan, what could have led to that, huh? Being given opportunities?
>>103369829I think renfloppo might be more than 90%. Enna is already grieving
>>103369834stop you are pathetic, phasekek.
>>103369810even some of the worst "performing" JP holos like matsuri still make a shit ton of money and are successful
I can see the model thing happening but also unlikely
>>103369823no shit im talking about before her break, there's still proof she made up the condition
>>103369849Maybe this argument would work if everyone in Myth and promise didn't also do way more shit than her before she left.
Shiori doing more is just the icing in the cake.
>>103369856Anon, Matsuri is only a โworst performingโ girl in comparison to the other JP girls and only in recent memory.
When Matsuri was in the company for as long as Ao is today she not only was one of the top Holos but her gacha streams were already legendary
Ugly holos literally shouldnt exist so Ao should get a remodel or fuck off
>>103369667Honestly I don't think they're doing it 100% out of malice, they're just desperate. They had a plan to kill and replace hololive and now that that clearly failed they're in panic mode.
Especially after getting mogged saturday, you could hear their voice deflate everytime they checked the CCVs
>>103369831Wdym she just said she DIDN'T invite Nerissa
>>103369912Sorry anon, the rats already won
>>103367834No, its not even jealousy, people know for a fact a large portion of the stars fanbase is just crappy for a lot of reasons(up yo and including making videos saying botting is okay, not watching streams is gine, only engaging in clips to supoort your "oshi" is fine aka giving money to clippers instead of your "oshi" and calling that support), and "dabois" themselves aren't the best people.
So associating with them, let alone feeling like you are in the camp of "rejecting idol culture" or owning "unicorns" for people that care more than a passinf interest in their favorites isn't gonna win you fans except with those who want to start shit unfortunately. She just ticks all the boxes to be anathema. And you can shitpost about CCV all you want. Guess who has 1.38 million subs now who also went down that road, and the so supportive Stars fans abandoned them? Ollie. So laugh now, but past precedence shows you should be mindful.
Wait, this shit's real? I thought it was a shitpost, wtf? She never mentioned him, did I miss something?
>>103369855You getting nervous aren't you Anon? Well don't clench your cheeks to tight, it'll hurt more when the news finally drops.
>>103369894Maybe shiori and bae, but they seem to be pretty specific with what types of collabs they do with the homos. So yeah probably just ID.
>>103369918lmao thats smart. roa should copy her cuz its lookin grim for her on the fan art side
>shiori ERB in seahours
>nimi in burgerhours
You just cant escape cuckoldry
>>103367834Am I retarded or did she get literally the lowest CCV?
>she's not leaving it's just a hiatus
meanwhile she has been posting shorts, videos and streaming A LOT while supposedly being in a bad mental state
https://youtube.com/@minoruhanagasaki_game
https://youtube.com/@minoruhanagasaki_game
https://youtube.com/@minoruhanagasaki_game
One less homowhore, good riddance
>>103369878Ah yeah I forgot about all those things Gura did- oh wait, those all got delayed forever and cancelled, which led to her leaving too. Ever consider something similar might have happened with Fauna? Hell, they might not have even offered to let her do anything because they knew she sucked at singing and dancing. If she hadn't released several covers after redebuting we wouldn't even be having this conversation; she clearly has at least some level of drive to do things.
bro, AI is getting insane
https://litter.catbox.moe/mh03zhxs8odcci6o.mp4
>>103369989Indie avengers lost bro. Let it go.
>>103369918I have no idea what I'm supposed to be seeing here
>>103369936You miss a lot
>>103369918Running out of thumbnail art
>>103369912Ollie also said she couldn't afford to be in ERBs 3D either, while Moona was in Raora's. And that the homos replaced Ollie DYRBI? . If you genuinely believe that ERB didn't ask Nerissa, her main target, to be in the biggest event of her career, namely her 3D debut, and you choose to ignore this rrat, then I have a bridge to sell you. Both are obviously lying out of their crooked Bong and Indog teeth
>>103369975How do niggas even find this shit? kek this one is literal who tier. Might as well find my personal channel while you're at it
>>103369918Did this artist stopped drawing Nimi entirely after Fauna is gone so Nimi had to commission this herself?
>>103369989>those all got delayed forever and cancelledAll the girls had to deal with shit like this you fucking moron.
>>103370017*Lore drop all over your place
Heh, nothing personnel saba
>>103370044who cares nigga it shows she lied about her condition and is just being a quitter again
>>103370017lost what? Honestly the only chuubas I ever see losing around here are nijis. Everybody else seems to be maintaining status quo, even phase
Oh, and any small chuubas on twitch. they lost hard, lmao
>>103370041proof on the Ollie one? Timestamp, not some random post on /#/
>>103369975Doesn't even sound like her
>>103369849contrary to popular belief, yagoo tea parties already exist ever since Cover was founded, and problems with middle management never happened.
>>103369989With how Holo members have been talking about the inner working of their projects over last few years, I'm more and more inclined to believe that most of Gura's issues could've been solved with proper communication instead of just shutting off and ghosting other side.
>b-but the grim 2022 eraYeah, 2022. It has been long past 2022
cuckposter it's to early for you to clock in, I am not going to pay your for your extra work hours
>>103370092some random jp indie shilling himself in /#/, regular monday
>>1033700861. you are deaf that's literally her
2. the account started being more active after her hiatus announcement
Nimi ruined my hobby. Someone was going to do it eventually I just didn't expect it would be her of all people.
>>103368869Fauna grabbing kronii's clock....
>>103369975I'm pretty sure she's leaving because she's mental, but that sounds nothing like her.
>>103368340Is 3.6m fast or slow for a Marine song?
>>103369975>streaming while on vacationwait a minute, isn't what the homos did before getting- oh...
>>103370092read the thread
>>103369989After the way Gigi and CC have talked about basically manhandling staff in their 3D debuts, I am 100% convinced that Gura's actual problem was being too passive about everything and that management crumbles like wet paper if you apply even a little pressure. Which is how you get things in any company. Notice how the pushy girls always get what they want. But it's easier to concoct some management conspiracy that just happens to only affect the passive girls than admit that your oshi just didn't have the guts to fight for anything.
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This pic is what # fell into. It's no longer about data or facts just agenda.
>>103370095>grim eraFauna is unicorn queen on that era and look how she betrayed them
>>103370166>no longerWas it ever?
>>103370166>he thinks the โnumbers threadโ is about numbers
>>103369945Vshojo is dead and there's nothing you can do to cope with the utter defeat at the hands of your superiors.
>>103370126>>103370130>retards can't even recognize her voicekeep coping homotards, you will lose another of your weapons
>>103370095I do think you're right, she's famously awful at communication. But you have to remember that Cover is a talent management agency, their job is literally to tardwrangle their stars. The way they fumbled Gawr Golden Goose Gura was truly legendary. It was entirely in their power to fix the problems they had with her, and they failed completely. All it would have taken was either side, her or them, making an attempt, but neither did. So who would you blame more for failing at the same task, one lone retard, or the combined might of hundreds of professional business people?
>>103370166The agenda exists to preserve the impressive data, no one would be like "cute girls doing cute things is kino content" if no one watched
>>103370168>numbers over their headThis is how I see chuubas I don't like
>>103370166It has become like that since ENshart started making their own tally when they couldnโt win.
>>103370199>homotardretard, I just hate graduation beggars like you.
>>103370165>didn't have the guts to fight for anythingYeah I'm sure that's why she managed to work with Casey Edwards to produce Ash Again, clearly management didn't stand in the way of that and she didn't have to fight them.
If both Kronii and IRyS managed to pull through the insane amount of shit they had to deal with with management then others can too
>graduation beggars
Didn't know that was a thing but thats me.
Please homos, please graduate.
>>103370226no need to beg when she's showing the signs herself kek
>>103369975That sounds nothing like Ao.
>>103370201What were they going to do, fly someone to America to knock on Gura's door because she won't respond to her DMs? Jail her when she's in Japan and force her to do shit?
>niji can't literally touch the top 5 anymore
What the fuck is going on?
>>103370166Since when were you under the impression that people posting anonymously and there being clear benefits to sowing discord wouldn't be posting with an agenda? That is what informational warfare is all about. Critical thinking is the way you combat it.
>>103370165are we suddenly defending middle management now? are we corpokeks all along?
>>103370246Maybe Cover shouldn't be giving them insane amount of shit to deal with, ever thought about that? They are a talent management agency, they're there to make things easier for the talents not to oppress them. Despite all the embezzlement Vshojo had the right idea about this.
>103370253
>kek
oh it's ennacuck again, my bad.
>>103370165>basically manhandling staff You mean talk about things like functional adults doing their jobs?
>>103370246People really don't give IRyS enough credit for sticking it through everything she's been through
Can't speak for Kronii, I don't pay any attention to what she does
>>103370201Gura was never a golden goose, just a flash in the pan. Some stuff looks impressive at first but if you scratch a little but below the surface, it's just air.
Putting ressources inti capitalizing on something like that is sure to blow up in your face. Many companies have died like that. Cover was smart to let Gura die off
>>103370269that's also why the thread is being littered with AI slop because it's scientifically proven to retard mental development.
>>103368342Becoming jaded
>>103370268has ohayama streamed today?
So how do I coom to ASMR stream if I'm an EOP and I cant see an apple in when I close my eyes?
>>103370256Literally check 5ch and the matome threads, all of them agree it's her.
>>103370263>should they have given her a local personal handlerUnironically, yes. Wouldn't have cost them all that much and would have paid insane dividends in retrospect
>>103370268First time seeing the post Koshien Niji slump?
>>103370308I excluded her for obvious reasons
>>103370256she sounds exactly like her voice she started streaming 4 months ago just before announcing the "hiatus"
>>103370273Whoa there Bucko, we don't question Cover's wisdom around here. If the girls feel like they're being overworked or underpaid or they gotta pay for shit with their own money, that's because they're lazy!
Reminder that a random upload from Cookie that isn't even youtube kids completely eclipses Saba's debut stream and she has many videos like this. There's always a bigger fish.
>>103370313>5ch says Aqua slapped Miko in front of Yagoo
>>103370271There are certain realities to dealing with management in any company, there's nothing unique about what happens at Cover. Your oshi not being able to deal with it doesn't mean there was a conspiracy specifically against her.
>>103370076https://www.youtube.com/live/ZxGtRif3F18?t=9511
>>103370309You really don't need to see what's happening to get it going, voice can be enough
But if you need to, you might watch some booru art (on topic) while listening to increase your enjoyment
>>103370338You should remind us who Cookie is because don't nobody know who the fuck she is.
>>103370238she literally just gave him an essay and told him to write a song, he is already an established artist so there was no need to demand anything more
>>103370168I remember this one, it's good
>>103370285She's talked bout how she couldn't even setup collabs because management kept ghosting her, couldn't produce covers and how a lot of her streams idea were canned
That was back in 2022
>>103370273Things have changed and they were already changing back in mid 2023, the one who left did because of their own sets of reasons and you fags are so fucking desperate to pin it all on the company it's fucking comical
>>103370334HoloGODS have been shitting on cover and management for years, we do so when we are given reasons from the girls, nobody needs you dramashitter to hop in and act like fucking monkeys, know your fucking place
>>103370325Gura would've ghosted the handler too,
>matome and 5ch said it, it's true
SEAmurai... I....
>>103370361One random video mogs Saba's entire career
>>103370349Maybe Cover deserves to die if it wants to be run like a typical nip boomer company instead of giving talents the freedom to do what they want.
>>103370375Kek you didn't even read the lyrics of the song she had to camouflage to get it past management.
>>103370379That's just biboos mane-chan blogposting again
>>103370330should exclude holo streams too then
>>103369831I'll believe this rrat
>>103370295Gura, the IP, the mascot, absolutely was a golden goose for Cover. Her merch sold insanely well, and they didn't have to rely on her personal performance in order to sell it.
ERB would easily be the SC queen of justice if she ever streamed. This random guerilla karaoke just mogged Raora
>>103370410>le talent freedomThat didn't work too well last time
>>103370399the real numbers.
>>103370419Nothing but a flash in the pan. A trap that they saw and you missed
shitting on Cover when they do something at the expense of the girls is the morally right thing to do.
>>103370421Raora is just a shitter bro
>>103370399Jarvis, compare cookieswirlc's numbers to this anon's oshi
>>103370379She was about 3 feet tall. Brown curly hair. White of course. She had these blue 'I can keep a secret' eyes
In about 10 years, she would be very hot
>>103370330kek I triggered the niji intern. The truth stings.
>>103370429>nothing changed for the girls even though the company went down in flames, they still own their IP and can stream whatever they wantWorked well enough
>>103370442in other words, she's negligible.
>>103370432>15m average durationyou're not even trying sabakek
>>103369625anon, i actually watch korone. she has mentioned that she's not going to leave hololive unless she gets terminated and this was less than a month ago.
>all the girls left in holoEN are talking positively about management and staff
>shitposters still stuck at months ago screaming "black company!!!"
just let it go...
>>103370252I don't know where you've been then. We've seen this for the last year and a half or more. Like when Kiara started saying Nerissa saved her when she joined Hololive. People have hovered like sharks waiting for a drop of blood from a sniff of what seems like doomposting to start the feeding frenzy. And they just had three graduations the start of this year, they're snarling for more. Hoping that it'd be the last domino that crashes everything. The funny part is that instead of that, its the indie scene and its adjacents who try to create some mutation of indie and corpo that fall, one by one by one. Its kinda funny, like some kind of reactive armor that instead of blowing up Hololive, it blows up the surroundings instead, and they can't do anything but gnash their teeth.
>>103370450What if anons oshi is cookie?
>>103370464>vshojo is dead>stole millions in charity money>not paid at allyup yup preach more commie cancer
>>103370442Gosh, you're right. it's a good thing they're investing so much into long term payouts like Holostars and HoloEarth, right? That's where the real money stands to be made. The popular girls selling millions in merch, who needs them?
>>103370477>positivelyI didn't know that admitting you had to pay for your own 3D is positive. Meanwhile Oshispark will do it for a cut of the ticket revenue instead from the talent's own pocket
>>103370374someone who start out doing kids content for the kids who parents just plop their child in front of an ipad
as they are growing up she need to change her content accordingly
kinda like how pewdiepie grow more edgy when all his audience are becoming edgy teenagers
>>103370477This im glad saba got no happy birthday
>>103370486If the one adult on earth who oshis cookie is in this thread, then godspeed to him
vtubing needs a new yab to entertain the schizos
>>103370501They paid for oshispark. Ashton implied it on stream. As usual lignigger don't watcyh streams...SAD
>>103370481>Nerissa saved herbased
>>103370410please dont tell me you seriously think she wrote any of the lyrics
Holy shit, sabahumans are desperate... they thought Gura was the only thing keeping HoloEN afloat... what they don't realize is that she was MIA for years already while holomems were doing their thing without her
Is it Oshis Park or Oshi Spark?
>>103370512Same as it ever was
If you notice. we aren't shitting on Phase Connect lately. i believe the programming is working.
>>103370421>Unarchived>Never streamsThis man is made of straw!
>>103370501ligkek... you're so fucking retarded...
Remember when Kiara tried to get Fauna in on the Minecraft event after Fauna complained and she then ignored Kiara
>>103370432I guess she is more of actual youtubers that make vids like kisuna AI instead of streamers
can you even compare them by the same matrix?
>>103370510ya she will just get happy birthdays from every single male e-celeb and leech vtubers in existence
>>103370501>Meanwhile Oshispark will do it for a cut of the ticket revenueDo you mean sololives? If so thatโs how it works for Hololive as well.
If you mean 3D regular lives, given that there is no tickets sold I doubt oshi park will do it for free.
>>103370517Talk more about Kiara in DC
>>103370575No, please elaborate
>>103370556they are so irrelevant that not even the schizos care about them
this is how you know they are meaningless
>0.6%
You hate bots, right /#/
You also agree that ai art is soulless.
If so then it's perfect opportunity for (you) to learn how to draw from an expert and decrease the amount of ai art in the thread and increase the amount of oc art!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IgXTzVyBEU
>>103370515Well, Iโm trying to induct her in the Lamy Council as the promised return of the Third Lamy.
Wish me luck!
>Fuwawa can continue being the fourth Lamy as usual
Arguing is no fun anymore, western vtubing is so cancer that supporting jap corpos like cover makes you win any argument by default.
>but they are restrictive and talent freedoom
Vshojo died, your ideals are dead with them.
>but they can't collab with boys
Nijisanji
>b-b-but indies
Oh you mean ex holos? The only relevant indies? Or do you mean UI and Patra?
Not only there's no competition but the lack of competent antis is also painfully boring.
her song suck
when it came out you niggers keep praising it like its the second life on mars so i thought it was great going into it
but then it sound like some random korean mmo opening trailer song
>>103370603sorry no I don't speak alien
>>103370612HOLOLIVE IS DEAD
>>103370556indifference is worse than hatred
>>103370603i dont watch homowhores
>>103370603>You hate bots, right /#/IN THIS HOUSE WE LOVE, CHERISH AND GIVE GOOD MAINTENANCE IN THE CUTE ROBOTIC FRIENDS!
>>103370594iirc chat asked if she was gonna join the pegor minecraft server
said she'd love to but she can't cause she'd need management to reach out to pegor
kiara was streaming, chat told her
she did her best to get fauna in
then fauna didn't bother
>>103370393Get an US handler who can physically contact her
>>103370576That 1hr video was the closest we got to a livestream/collab for the editing was light, and she got 300K VOD views for a 1hr upload.
CookieSwirlC is a massive EN indie and no one wants to accept it for some reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl0mLGLOOSo
>>103370612DELETE THIS NOW
>lui live
Lui can handle horror game now?
>bae pays for this in 2 months
KEK
>>103370313You're just saying this in hopes nobody actually checks them.
>>103370650we don't acknowledge her because she mogs every other vtuber with her metrics so we might as well pretend she doesn't exist
>>103370650>fat fingerstop kek
>>103370677where do you think I got the link from in the first place, dumbass
>>103370603>expertThat's not very nice anon
>>103370663No she doesn't, she pays less because she's not constantly outsourcing backgrounds or other shit.
>>103370603her tip about line smoothing was interesting and it's neat to see her improving from reps
>>103370465Stop tryimg to make your niji memes stick to hololive, sister
>>103370663Nah, you have to cut Doki some slack here. Bae can finance hers with a zero interest loan, split it in as many paychecks as she wants and get one of the top studios in the world at cost or even at a discounted price.
Doki has nothing going for her
>>103370692That's her hag friend. It's a handcam collab. She's the one with slimmer hands.
>>103370705how much less are we talking? negligible difference I think
still very impressive
>>103370663Using pre-existing assets/equipment/staff costs less.
This menduksai elf is getting older
>>103370650i guess she is kinda cheating
cause she was already estrabish fresh youtuber long before she debut her anime skin, without switching channel too
I mean its like when pokimane or soda put on anime avatar for like couple of streams couple of years back, it just doesnt count
>>103370575>>103370594KEK
I completely forgot about that. Basically Chat asked her why Fauna wasn't in Pekora's hardcore Minecraft event and Fauna proceeded to tell them it was because Pekora and management weren't replying to her to get her whitelisted on the server.
Kiara heard about it through her chat, asked Pekora directly to whitelist her. And the Fauna proceeded to ignore everyone in her chat who mentioned it.
In retrospect that entire episode makes sense now.
>>103370490AFO is coming up, cockroach, hope you're ready for another mogging, and then an entire new gen of mogging
>>103370759sorry guys it was me
>>103370745>it doesn't count, she's cheatingstill a vtuber
Your next cope will be she's botted
>>103370616Not to mention mr nightmare is railing nimi so every argument here is pointless
>>103370647What if she won't answer the door? Or calls the cops? It isn't worth it, even Hollywood couldn't handle people like Marlon Brando, you really think Cover could force Gura to do anything?
>strongest cookie shill itt
>not even membered
GRIM... this is why she wants to stream more instead of focusing on normal videos... her current fans are all baby poorfags
>>103370745Your logic doesn't work anymore. Youtube completely destroyed her channel's growth last year so she lost all momentum but she didn't give up. These numbers she's currently getting are all natty.
>>103370763how would you fix this dwarf
>>103370801cookie makes more in ad rev from one video than saba does in an entire month
>>103370804>-15B viewskek, she deleted all her for kids videos until YouTube let her out of the cage?
>>103370663Oh boy, Dokibird is whining about money yet again, who could've seen that coming?
>>103370481What does Nerissa not do???
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I forgot that I was hoping for a shiori and cc piano collab before the homo event and since I dont like shiori anymore I didnt even notice her playing piano here
>ERB acting like cutesy
I bet she cringes so hard when she does this
>>103370798ERB raid get
Yopi can't pronounce "huzzah" and says "hooza" instead
>>103370747Literally lying and using management as a scapegoat and saplings were totally not shitting on kiara over it in this thread
You know its SEAhours when cookieswirl is mentioned
>>103370770feel free to bring up cookies numbers if you want but no one cares not even yourself
If you actually cared about her and if she's that popular why don't you bake a thread for her and talk about her there? Are you really that desperate to not stop shitposting that you'll start grabbing randoms to compete with hololive?
Be careful because from the content that we've seen from her she's basically as much honorary hololive en as you can be
>>103370829Youtube deleted them. She was fighting for them to be put back.
>>103370595>>103370633thanks for letting us off the hook then. we can finally shitpost at peace while others get the blame for it.
>>103370840According to jailbirds, stream
>>103370829wasnt that a thing couple of years back when how many youtuber get fucked over by kids stuffs?
>>103370747Most likely Fauna got disheartened after getting rejected fist time.
Things like that can really sour the experience. It probably did sour it so much she didn't feel like playing after that.
I know I wouldn't like to play with someone if it felt like they are taking pity on me for just allowing me to play with them.
Fauna is not the asshole in this situation.
Also it was really shitty of Kiara to pressure her like that live in real time. That's what they have management for. Use them instead of almost making drama out of nothing you orange whore.
>>103370761Who exactly are they mogging? Who even competes in that sector? NijiEN? I'd certainly agree there.
>>103370840eat healthy food
>>103370663Bae doesn't have to pay for the studio access or 3D staffs
why is no one talking about lui stream?
where are all luibros at?
>>103370844you should probably go see an optometrist
>>103370820>ad rev>videos for babiespennies
I'm glad Justice debuts have proven once and for all that hags are best and homolovers are worst
>>103370862not shitposting just correcting people on who the real queen of vtubing is, not my fault they're getting mad and coping
>>103369160its not even full 24 hours since GG appeared on PekoMarine Morning stream
>>103370909/#/ isn't the first place I would go to talk about streams
>>103370920ERB is both tho
>>103370909Lui is a singing talent now and doesn't need creepy idol fans to support her
>>103370801Cookie will be millionaire in 10 years, after all her fans grow up
>>103370877Fauna didn't want to play because it was during JP hours. She made the management excuse as an easy out. Kiara got her in and she still didn't play, because it was during JP hours.
>>103370820You may want to check the views on cookie's videos before making claims like that
Cookie basically matches Nimi in VOD views
>>103370863>mommies seriesso she turn from being a virtual mother figure to another kind of mother figure?
is that not just grooming kids online?
>>103367264Why does Raora get to have a butt
>>103370920Raora is the youngest EN. Biboo is much older.
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>>103370934>not shitposting >getting mad and copingYeah yeah sure anon
>>103370941She's just an old person.
>>103370914I'll not be messing up with my brain's autofilter
>>103370490we've been over this
the male otaku audience is tapped out. only pandering to them will lead to stagnation
diversification is important for the future of the brand
>>103370906Yes she does. Noel mentioned it, with something similar to โif it were for free there would be a whole lot more 3D lives, no?โ
Incidentally that was in the year she got 3 kek, she can always flex some cash money to get her way and if might have been one of the reasons Hololive restricted it to one per year
>>103370952do this one, dwarf
>>103370944I like her songs and her voices but she does sound like shes thirsty
>>103367264Isn't she kinda pulling a ui mama here??
>>103370909>why is no one talking about lui stream?Go to towa for actual discussions
>>103370877Jesas you retards deserve all the shit you get tenfold.
>>103370988the dwarf surrenders... phoneposting can't bring me high enough to fix this one too... you win this time, elf fucker...
>>103370998nah I rather swim in shits here than tranny hugbox
>>103371002stop replying to yourself
>>103370957All I'm hearing is Kiara being self absorbed narcissist putting herself into situation she had no place in. Just her usual me me me pickme behavior.
>>103370877More like Fauna didn't really want to participate and used the management as an excuse / scapegoat not to. If she was just disheartened, she could've just told chat that she was no longer interested in joining or that she got too busy to join at that point instead of ignoring them
>>103371020What a fucking retard lmao
>>103370939my guess is she only did it for cc
>>103371020this board is more hugbox than reddit
>>103370992that's normal she needs to counterweight her fat tail
>>103370962We don't even know how old Biboo is...
>>103371020Then you get shits and not a Lui stream discussion
>>103370861Exactly, pillowdear is the colonizer's choice
>>103370961They gave her the whole cake, nobody else even gets a slice
>>103371071Nobody is talking about that stream over there though
>suddenly elf out of nowhere
nande
post more
>>103371043CC already appeared before without GG
If anything CC join for GG
>>103371036You're the one talking about some gay website no one cares about, using the name of a holo everyone loves to avoid being considered off topic.
You can't just say towa randomly in this thread
>>103371019>elf fuckeryou god damn right, dwarf
>>103370663Bae dances instead of paying someone to swirl her around
>>103371020Don't expect people to talk about non-event streams, then, since most live posters went away
>>103371043maybe, but using "hate" is a strong word, she joined hologta and micomet keyboard touney just fine.
>>103370957dont use that cope anon, the server is up 24h
kaela basically grind the shit out of that server so everyone can live longer
>>103371116Heh, you're right
>>103371088you gotta go to /stars
>>103370864You could also be shitposter and fan of some 2 view Indo indies and no one would suspect you in a 100 years because they are that irrelevant.
>>103371091>ๅ็ฅใใ!5ๅจๅนดใซใฆใณใใใฆใณๆฉ้
>5th Anniversary Countdown Drinks!
>>103371023>Saplings in Kiara's chat tell Kiara that Fauna wants to play but wasn't whitelisted for the server>Kiara messages someone and gets Fauna allowed pretty much right away>Somehow, Kiara getting Fauna what she claimed to want because Fauna's fans asked was a bad thingOh no, Fauna had mental anguish from the possibility of interacting with JPs or not getting her 9 hour beauty sleep, the horror! It's all Kiara's fault.
>>103371071at least I still get some shits to play with
if this was towa some mod will probably ban me for 15 mins and announce it
>THIS USER WAS BANNED FOR BEING A RETARD or something then everyone clap and give updoot to mods LE MOD = GOD BASED
>>103371020based proud indian
>>103370957Nah it was management, but a 'I quit and am locked out of company resources' kind of way
>>103371088Not even on towa /hlg/? That's sad
>>103371020ganges anon...
>Subhuman brown Nijihomo troons and sisters can't stop seething about her
Yep she won
The cute white girl won
>>103371161oh you're just a thirdie that got banned for "funposting"
carry on then
Is the AFO bratt ticket still not sold out?
They should just give it away for free as an Apology to BAE and to the entire holoEN
>>103371196>whiteIs that part of her lore
>>103371146Wait, towa doesn't have star, why didn't anyone tell me it's better than here?
>>103371140That just makes Fauna look worse then for claiming it was management's fault when she really just didn't want to play.
>>103371187No one ever liveposts about JP streams even on a good day, unless you consider "I want to facefuck Mio so bad when she coughs like that" liveposting
>>103371161you sounds mad, what did you post there?
>>103371033Looking back, I wonder how many times her appeals to authority and management for why she wasn't bothering with anything were excuses
>>103371196COPE REDDIT NIGGER COPE REDDIT NIGGER COPE REDDIT NIGGER COPE REDDIT NIGGER COPE REDDIT NIGGER COPE REDDIT NIGGER
>>103371159>Kiara making a mountain out of a molehill is goodWe all know she wanted more attention on herself kfpiss. It's her typical behavior. If Fauna played on the server you would be hearing for months how heroically Kiara saved Fauna and allowed her to play on the server. It's better that Fauna didn't play just for that alone.
smell like a bunch of women in here
nvm just fags
>>103369918I don't understand, the accusation is that Nimi secretly comissioned this herself or...? That's a lot of samefagging for an unclear point anon. Not believable.
>>103371225nothing since I dont go there
>>103371196the flips are the ones that like NTR, those are her fanbase
>>103371270>samefaggingmindbroken
Kek ERB didn't raid the poor homo
>>103371236I liked the Mario tournament where Fauna made up some excuse to bail and IRyS being IRyS tried to solve her problem instead of letting her slink away
>>103370986It's not fully free. They have free access to the studio and 3D staffs, but they still have to pay for other expenses
>>103371196Won getting unfollowed by Doobida and ignored by Saba
Hope you like mint you retard lol
>why aren't there dwarf vtubers
cause nobody wants to be a dwarf
I HATE fighting games
https://youtu.be/KPZL5xI8krM
>>103371209They would rather have Bae perform to an empty hall than give away tickets for free, it's the nature of a (((brrat)))
>>103371261What do fags smell like
>>103371104i think cc just invited her and gigi agreed. i really dont think gigi wanted to be a part of it that much
>>103371125that was a long time ago and she didnt join more recent ones like rust or that smash thingy. even in minecraft she immediately fucked off far away to not accidentally bump into someone. and also shes the only one out of justice to not do a single 1 on 1 jp collab. and she didnt have any jp guests in her 3d debut
>>103371283>where Fauna made up some excuse to bail and IRyS being IRyS tried to solve her problem instead of letting her slink awayWait i don't recall this one
Holy shit just how many episodes of this shit there was???
>>103370877>Also it was really shitty of Kiara to pressure her like thatEvery time I think napfags can't make me hate them more they manage to prove me wrong.
>>103371302Do a Koroneschizo, it worked
>>103371310sniff your pits and tell us
>>103370095>y-you COULD tough it out!You shouldn't have to fucking fight your talent agency to get normal shit. I don't understand why you niggers don't get this. Of course there are giga stacies in a big company that succeed. There's also wallflowers that fail but never leave, and wallflowers that quit, and giga stacies that say fuck this (coco)
>>103371310Would you like to sniff my dick?
>>103371311you know she became Koyori wife now daughter on minecraft right?
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>>103371344https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDgTRY9vGCM
>>103370295Damn Cover must've been retarded constantly using her as their face then.
>>103371326I don't remember the IRyS thing, but Fauna did bail on the Mario Maker tournament early.
>>103370982If Fauna and Nimi are so insignificant then why can't this entire board stop seething over them for even a minute?
>>103367524This is why women need to be under strict rules, even the good ones.
Otherwise, bad bitches will backstab, and good girls will crumble and make a public scene.
>>103371365yeah that happens in a karaoke when you decide to stop singing for over a half hour
>>103371291They donโt, Noel mentioned specifically the 3D staff having to be paid. Iโll try to find the stream or a clip
>>103371331Well she did go from competing and being trained by male to simply watching the competition but what exactly did he do?
>>103371340true they should have joined a kind and generous talent agency that has 100% the best staff members like vshojo
>>103371365>Peak aligns with chat speed>Drop off as soon as she stopped singing and started yappingLooks natty
>>103371374They cut her off at the right time and dodged the brunt of it
>>103371372my dick smells like wd-40
>>103370338Honest question do you niggers even get chumbud bites with this cookie shit? Do you think there's some chumbud sitting somewhere going
>grrr this kids algorithm channel that happens to be a vtuber is truly the greatest vtuber, how can I ever compete...argh! I'm going to fucking kill myself and seethe!Like what are you imagining is happening when you bring up cookie?
>>103371209At this point it'd be extremely unlikely for anyone to buy a ticket so yeah, they are fucked.
>>103371365Looks completely natty, highest chat at the peak, steadily losing viewers when she just talked for like 30 minutes, and no infinite growth.
>>103368218Am I going crazy, or this picture gets smaller every time it's posted?
>>103371302i always wished more holos play fighting games
then they start playing sf6 but then also they only ever do coaching collab stream
fucking monkey pawed
>>103371362yes. through the in-game chat. and if koyori hadn't insisted, they wouldn't have met at all
>>103370863>1 month ago>84 likesJesus fucking Christ the community engagement is NULL
>>103371283Really no fucking wonder Promise barely gave 2 fucks about her leaving, wonder how many Promise projects fell through because they couldn't get her to give a damn.
>>103369975And they say stealth suspension only happens in niji no wonder marine is depressed
>>103371454I've been posting the same one since the first edit was posted. It was always small
>>103371403He poopoo'ed the idea and made fun of her for training for hours in a game that requires thousands of hours of practice and how she basically shit at the game and should give up etc
>>103371442Wrong, city skylines are one of the most beautiful creations of modern civilization
iofi's mic was so bad her manager had to ask her to upgrade it
>>103371447Her singing is honestly her buff content
>>103371507wtf real iofiniggas post here?
>>103371282Dw he's getting engined
>>103371385Probably had a date and didn't expect it to go so long
We know who she chooses in the end
>>103371471Notice how there weren't a lot of emotions when Gura left either, probably for the same reasons. Especially when compared to moom.
>>103371522indoland is still awake
>>103368624>>103368592>>103368545Raden is a good new direction.
You can't take idols seriously if all they do is play games all day.
Well would you look at that, for all your false sense of superiority, it's not 4chan that Watame promotes her new cover on, but reddit!
That's right, when you insult redditors you insult Watame!
Lore drop soon: rissa, kiara, raora
Homocollab soon : GG, bijou
>>103371485I don't remember this at all
>>103371563Raden is absolutely wonderful for cultural outreach and revitalizing the museum industry a bit
>>103371567>He doesn't know
>>103371340It's not having to "fucking fight". It's working as a team - communicate, negotiate and all that. The agency wasn't working *for* Gura. They were working *with* her. You might be thinking of Western agencies (I'm not well versed in how Western entertainment agencies work but I'll take anons words for it), but Cover has always been operating as an Eastern / JP one.
I'm not saying that it was Gura's fault but simply that some of her issues might not be as hopeless as people made them out to be. As Marine said, communication goes a long way.
>>103371555At least Kronii speaked out nicely about Gura and she was close to Mooms
The green one is another story
>>103371571Only the lore drop list is correct. And they're all getting married to me
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>>103368545That's because she sucks both homo and niji cocks
>>103371550Nah, not in that case, it was like 2am in NA when it happened, pretty late for a date. Unless it was a date of the horizontal kind.
>>103371614that would be a sexy collab group, they should do ASMR together
>>103371582It was the "real" schizo arc of his, less 4chan and more direct I didn't keep screenshots
>>103371442>Iofi teaching anyone how to drawI laughed
>>103371567reddit would become homobeggars playground if Watame didn't post there as which means there will be no reason for helmite to be there and fighting beggars
>>103371610>The agency wasn't working *for* Gura.Well that was their mistake. Was is this managment slop shit you're posting? "Noo we are le corpo team" stfu nigger you are the background cog who's supposed to tardwrangle the actual money makers.
And not just Gura. Every single person, past and future, even homos, are worth more than your worthless ass. *You* learn how to talk to the TALENT because that's the thing YOU are bringing. They gotta worry about massive fanbases bigger than the sum of people you'll interact with your entire life and entertaining them. I wish I could spit on your dumb ass.
>>103371625I knew the circumstances when I posted but part of no longer giving a fuck is not being charitable
>>103371118>this poor scaling Turn Dooby into Ame and this would be perfect.
>>103371679eh? i only remember the coach dying cause of some sickness
>>103371340That's cool, let's hear what Ina has to say about that (youtube.com/watch?v=xqdGzeBa-ZA):
>Working in a corporation is trying to get what you want within the rules that are set, and not everyone will understand how to maneuver the rules to get something out of the company>While it seems like, on the outside, they'll be like 'Oh, the company is taking advantage of the talents!', but in the end as a contractor, as a worker with a company, it's not a one-way street. You have to also know how to take advantage of the company in order to, get a lot out of it.>To me, if I felt like I wasn't being treated properly, I won't be here cause I know I could use my time and energy better elsewhere. And of course I'm not saying the company is perfect and it's the best thing ever. Of course they have their flaws. Of course I fight with management sometimes or argue with them on stuff, but I know that I'm still here because the company actually over the years have worked towards changing to accommodate for us. You guys have seen all the friction I had with management before, and honestly if I felt that it's something that they couldn't fix or they're not putting their effort into fixing it I would have been like 'Okay, then there's no need for me to be here anymore', but I know they were working to fix stuff behind the scenes, and as a Japanese company, changes happen very slow because it goes through so many different hoops, but the changes are there>To put it shortly, I'm here to have fun and to do the stuff that I really enjoy doing. So, if by chance in the future, if the time comes ever, it'll be because I just want to try something else in my life, or spend time in the mountains drawing my life away or something like that.
>>103371610>I'm not saying that it was Gura's fault but simply that some of her issues might not be as hopeless as people made them out to beOf course you schizoids don't understand an issue not being hopeless doesn't mean it's not bad. No one's concerns are particularly bad compared to the starving niggers in Africa. Doesn't mean you put up with your incompetent workplace when they fuck you over again and again. Doesn't mean the tardwhisperer coworker succeeding means it's all fine.
>>103371692>try to talk to the talent>they just don't answer and disappearI like how you're just saying that Cover should force everyone to work and do what they want/say no matter what, regardless of how they feel or what they want to do
Congrats, you're sinking into the njinigger mud and you don't even realize it while desperately trying to justify and deflect Gura being bad at communication
>>103371702Oh yeah now I remember the whole period of him gloating about it, like it was karma
Ok I could ignore all the bullshit rrats you were spewing about the Minecraft thing but you are all fucking faggots bringing up the Mario Maker Tourney when she fucking tried multiple times ON STREAM to connect and it fucking refused to, so she decided to leave because it was like 3 am her time and she was fucking sleepy anyway. Absolutely fucking unreal that you're actually trying to shit on her using that when literally none of them took issue with it and Koyori still invited her to her 3D live because it was an important tournament for her that year.
>>103371209I would've bought a ticket (not that i would've been able to anyway since ther were 8091 people before me when it closed) had i been able to purchase it of the site directly, not second hand, nor through a fucking discord
>>103371711she's subtly doing a dig a Gura for not puttingnup with management much longer. what a snek.
>>103368678>labubusLow quality or not she was already getting scammed
>>103371751You have another chance in 26 minutes
>>103371466if we use "hate" she would not play mc in the first place or just play for collab like ERB
>>103371209>>103371751If anything Bae and all brats should do a naked dogeza at AFO live on stage apologizing to all other fans
>>103371711I don't understand what you think vindicates management in that. "Oooh I can take it" thanks Ina.
I bet you also praise Yagoo for damage controlling and personally talking to every talent after that daisy chain of failures as a good thing. You don't even recognize the cognitive dissonance between "everyone who left is at fault" and that, do you? At the end of the day, it was Cover corp who lost valuable money makers due to incompetence, but all you care about is damage controlling a corporation you have no stake in's reputation. Like if we all acknowledge they're the idiots in this situation, it devalues your oshi who chose to remain with them cause she sees value in it. Just pure emotional thinking from a tribalist.
>>103371745*the on stream attempts technically weren't on stream
I'm your fact checking coz napling
>>103371745>Ok I could ignore all the bullshit rrats you were spewing about the Minecraft thingDo not run away from it nigger. This was no fucking rrat it happened on stream for everybody to fucking see.
>>103371743Honestly I agree with whoever you're talking about, it was karma
>>103371754>dig at guraShe literally said
>To me, if I felt like I wasn't being treated properly, I won't be here cause I know I could use my time and energy better elsewhere.That matches exactly with what gura said and did
She felt like she wasn't being treated properly and so went to spend her time and energy better elsewhere
>>103371737I don't engage with your retarded headcanons. What you read on /vt/ isn't real.
>>103371768I already check, flights from where i love to NYC are all booked for the 19th till the 23rd
>>103371754gura ditched her gen she's the one who snaked out first
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>>103371781Retarded faggot
>>103371823>searching for a roommr and mrs nightmare rn
>>103371806Ina's literally saying to Gura "skill issue" because she can put up with all the bullshit while the latter can't. so yeah it's still a subtle dig against her.
>>103371780Nah I recognize that cover as a company is plenty retarded (holizontal, holoearth, early management), but holos are also real women so they are bound to have even bigger retard moments (like them all graduating instead of taking the deal Ame made).
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>>103371821>she's the one who snaked out first
>>103371854If that a dig then it's so subtle only a woman could take an issue with it.
Want to confess to something anon?
I think Cover defenders and graduate fans think it's an existential discussion. Like if they don't "settle the score" and its either lazy whores who betrayed hololive or black company then the conclusion is invalid.
It can just be "person's experiences at workplace turned sour". Surely you guys have worked somewhere before right? You had a coworker that hated it and you thought it was fine? Or vice versa? We are talking about a company with dozens of managers and red tape. Personal circumstances for 50+ people. 50+ ways of thinking and levels of tolerance. Be reasonable for 20 seconds, Cover is fine for a vtubing (hell, for a company in general) corporation, but that doesn't mean they haven't fucked up many times and that was enough for quite a few people.
>>103371856what's even the difference? Ame and chloe are still memoryholed if official merch is concerned.
>>103371854Everything is a subtle dig if you think hard enough
>>103371796Hey, he was spending a decent amount of time with a woman that wasn't his wife. Publicly. She was spending a lot of time with a man that wasn't her co-worker, when her mum is old...
Alot of imperfection for the sake of a video game that only losers like.
>>103371854Are you reaching that much because you are a 5'5 manlet?
>>103371870Ame showed up for Kiaraโs 3D live.
>>103371792I'm not running away from shit, everyone saying she didn't stream because it was at JP hours is a liar because she said she WANTED it to be empty when she built something random for people to see when they logged on. She decided to do her stream because it was already setup before she even fucking got access in, and quite frankly I wouldn't put it past her to still have waited for her manager to give her the OK. But even if that wasn't the case she got sick.
>HER BEING SICK WAS A LIEThen there's no point in fucking arguing if you're not going to believe anything she sayys.
>>103371870ame is an affiliate and didn't completely ghost them for years
>>103371856>like them all graduating instead of taking the deal Ame madeThe deal we don't know anything about? Like I don't understand why you can look at most people refusing it and think "it must've been a perfect deal with no drawbacks, they refused it out of malice or sheer retardation". What level of corpocuckery are you on?
>>103371870May 1st is earlier than september
>>103371899We're talking about the pegor minecraft event you stupid sapnigger.
>>103371887nta they ask ame for her voice for holofest
It's good to see holodrones infighting. Makes you feel really vindicated after being called niji bootlicker all that time
>mori has many close friends in holo
>but what she has with gigi is something very special and different
qrd on mori's gg obsession?
>>103371931And that's what I'm talking about you stupid fucking retard, do you not know how to read?
>>103371885This is not the place for genuine thought and discussion, friend
This is the shitting street
I am obliged to tell you that whoever you are a fan of is bad, and whoever you personally don't care for is good
What will it take for chumbuds or whatever the fuck they're called now to admit that Gura was a part of her own problems? What will be the excuse when she fucks off again, like she has done multiple times even before Hololive?
>>103371893oh shit its you In hindsight the SF6 arc was a dud
>>103371927It's not if they are from different years
>>103371947Yeah i know how to read nigger and i was ITT when it went down, Kiara did everything she could to get her in and she bailed. All you got is fucking cope out.
>>103371883>>103371892why is it suddenly "reaching" when we can concoct rrats over Kiara breathing and we easily take that as the truth?
>>103371956Whatever problems she had, Cover didn't help her and even exacerbated it. Keep seething Cover defender, they fumbled the biggest vtuber in the world and now they're fucked.
>>103371923I'm still a fan of its just some bullshit they cooked up for Aqua and Ame only got it as collateral
Faunaclique wasn't offered because they quit earlier
>>103371968That's just a rrat
>>103371978And I'm saying that Fauna had already had her stream up and ready BEFORE she fucking got access. Then Kiara got her in. But she decided to do her stream anyway, then got sick. It's not fucking rocket science. All of you are retarded because if she REALLY wanted out she could've played for literally 10 minutes, died a stupid ass but convincing death, and never have to touch it again.
>>103371982This is this and that was that
Kaira and Ina are different people.
I can imagine Kiara being catty like that, but not Ina.
>>103371944leeching homo whore
>>103371957nta, i'm glad she dropped it even though her SF6 numbers were real good, i'd rather from slop and she's in a 5 day family trip with mami and papi
>>103371956>What will it take for chumbuds or whatever the fuck they're called now to admit that Gura was a part of her own problems?We already admitted she quit cause she no longer liked what she got from Cover. You're the ones coping and seething that she's a dirty traitor who should've just kept eating the slop, like everyone else, and the refusal is entirely her own personal problem. Nevermind 3 other ENs leaving. You've made an entire Judas circle out of everyone that dipped from Hololive and you're now having to actually fight against equally powerful tribalists because they're a splinter of your formerly stronger tribal faction.
>>103371957Yeah because God literally does not want the girls to be playing shitty games with shitty men.
That one guy dying is very light consequences compared to what could happen.
Dunno why the girls test it so much.
>>103371944you ask this so many times that it starting to feel like either kiara shitpost or trying to start shipfaggotory war
>>103371944Stockholm syndrome the real one, not the one popularized by media
>>103372010>All of you are retarded because if she REALLY wanted out she could've played for literally 10 minutes, died a stupid ass but convincing death, and never have to touch it again.Or she could have ignored Kiara's efforts and keep on playing minecraft solo, exactly what she did. Actual coping retard. You guys were making the same retarded excuses for this shit when it happened, glad to see you're still the same retarded faggot you were a fucking year ago lmfao
>>103372038I wondered why you were Koroneschizo and not Koronetruthnuke but I see it now
>>103371331Kenzoku should try this to save Towa but it's too late I think, her own thread has the biggest doomers and shitposters
>>103372074he's a tsundere
Serious question holoans
Whats the point anymore? Like who is your champion even at this point? Indies are irrelevant, Saba isn't a holo member in name only (or do you think she'll take up the homo banner lmao), vshojo doesn't exist, nijien is worse than indies in irrelevance and will never recover, phasecucknet manages to be worse still, and Idolen got merged into brave and disappeared
Like what even is the point? Are you fighting for nijijp? Because I don't believe you
Or is perhaps, that hololive fans were right all along about you, that you never watched or shilled those groups because you actually like them, but just used them as a way to shit on hololive? Because its looking miiiiighty like thats the case
>>103372038I don't think jehovah is a vidyafag
>>103370960fucking based, I hope it was grooming
>>103371944Current ship ranking :
Jurard x shiori
Nimi x husband
ERB x holostars
Saba x doob
Gg x mori
>>103371885I've also had coworkers who do a third of the work I do while constantly complaining about the job and how bad their life is and that it's always someone else's fault that their output is shit. Problems in a company aren't exclusive to management issues.
>>103372040neck yourself faggot, this is the first time I even mention it in the thread
the big 3 are collabing, predictions on who gets gold?
>>103371768Aren't those going to be all shitty seats anyway?
>>103371942>the "muH Holodrone" retard is salty Nijisiswho would've thought!
>>103372116yesterday all those three had 30+k kek
>>103371989>>103372035Well, I got my answer, guess they'll just keep deflecting forever.
>>103372132You wish babydoll tranny
>>103372106>Axel x Zeta forgotten>Axel x Nodoka forgottenDid we finally do it Nodokatomos, Zetadachis? Have we finally separated ourselves from the horndog sexpest?
>>103372069Like I said, there's no fucking arguing with you if you're not going to believe her taking over 4 days off after that stream was because she was sick. Literally 0 point because you refuse to believe her words and would rather believe whatever you think up. That's why I didn't want to bring this shit up in the first place.
>>103372100That's what you guys never understood.
You think you're fighting nijiniggers, phasefags, homobeggars, vshojoshills, avengers(lol)fags. No. These are cloaks, skins. You are fighting Hololive antis.
>>103372074Then reality is what is schizo because it will always be how I say it is. I'm always right.
>>103372132babydoll is one of the least popular holo ships and only people on /vt/ push it because they're scared of the real ships like CCGG or Shiboo
>>103372100They are mentally ill. They are incapable of logic and reason. Barely more than animals.
>>103372162Yesterday was weekend. Normal, paying fans have work on weekdays. But your stinky neet unwashed ass wouldn't get it
>>103371772the first thing she did was walk away from spawn by several thousands of blocks. she did this so she could play comfortably without the fear of randomly bumping into someone. she did this because she doesnt like interacting with jps and often actively avoids them because its awkward due to the language barrier and gigi is not the type of girl who can brute force these interactions like some others eop en members
Today, I will remind them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVB8hJaaCBQ
>>103372204>always rightAki didn't recline
>>103372249I love lofi she's my favorite holoid member
>>103372226>All meSeethe and stay mad
>>103372100Cover deserves all the shitting they get, why are you defending them?
>>103372216>43k peak>3 cpmoya?
>>103372212Least popular by what metric? I would say CC is one of her closest, then IRyS, then Raora.
>>103372252I noticed and thats nice but somehow she is less relevant and has less mindshare than ever. She's as rare as a full 2nd gen in 3D concerts now, have you noticed?
>>103372177I'd rather believe my fucking eyes than her words and all i saw is that she ignored Kiara who was going out of her way to be nice to her. And quite frankly yes i'm not incline in believing anything she has said considering everything that fucking happened. Bailing for 4 fucking days after this pretending to be sick just so she doesn't have to adress why she wouldn't join after one of her branchmates got her in is entirely possible. Just like how she told you you were not getting a 3D live because she wanted to improve as a singer lmfao
You retards are the most whipped gullible monkeys i've ever seen
>>103372226>s-samefAAAACK
>>103372240It's funny how this faggot really thinks he is something
>>103372216>38k peak>4 cpmoya oya?
>>103372240There's something deeply amusing about this shitter that took 1 year to get to 130k thinking he can contribute to "just" 10k more.
>>103372303>Just like how she told you you were not getting a 3D live because she wanted to improve as a singerNo, she said this about cover songs.
>>103371610>communication goes a long wayThat's the thing though the problems weren't with just with Gura on that: ex: Kronii and Ame with perms; Regis with this equipment, Kiara with her past managers, Chloe and being pushed to use her voice. Mumei said on her last owl friends stream that there is a huge separation in how the talents in Japan are treated vs the ones that live overseas. The implication being that as a talent overseas you are a lot more cut off and "out of the loop" despite the technology of today.
>FWMC morning cancelled again
Did ruffians have a meltdown?
>>103372216>23k peak>2 cpmoya oya oya?
>>103372291No. Maybe you should actually watch streams?
>>103372287Of course you would defend spamming messages like it's twitch.
She enabled slowmode to read messages, something you would never get as your every comments gets ignored in spam.
so if you want (You)s in vt all you have to do is bait Naplings/Kanikis? This is my guess after seeing this thread
>>103372291Other members are also rare for showing up in other girls 3D concerts these days, 2021 was peak for that kind of variety imo
>>103372343That was also the cope for the 3D live roru
>>103372127EN concert not ID
>>103372285Cover is the best corpo that exists and is currently improving
They fucked up during 2020-2022 and still occasionally fuck up but they ARE getting better and that's a good thing
If they ever start hinting at coming back to that grimness even I as a kaniki will come back to help my brothers in arms to protest cover, but until then I only wish them well
And as always, cover can be shit sometimes, but disgusting animals have no place talking among hologods
>>103372116I think ohayama? She usually gets the strongest engine out of the 3
>>103372352cope, the amount of unique users is pathetic anyway
>>103372010Oh so NOW Fauna/Nimi had a problem swapping games/plans last minute
>>103372357This is not really new info, naplings love biting bait, that's why faunaschizo used to camp here the most because saplings would give him yummy yummy replies every time for the most low effort spam
>>103372376t. Coverdrone falseflagging as a chumbud
>>103372365No it wasn't. She never actually said that for 3D lives. She never said why at all, people can only infer she didn't want to deal with shitty fucking management not helping with the language barrier like they hadn't for her 3D debut from shit she said months later.
>>103372352slow mode doesn't result to 3pm for a 43k ccv you retarded SEAster
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>>1033723083/4 is pretty good for anon tbf
>>103372351the homos? not happening. I watch an average of 110 hours of JP streams per week
>>103372362I dunno about that
>>103372384>Oh so NOW Fauna/Nimi had a problem swapping games/plans last minuteThere's a reason why she dropped schedules and why she puts up a frame > 30 minutes before it starts
>>103371989>fumbled the biggest vtuber in the worldOutside of japan, maybe. Her loss as a mascot is much heavier than her loss as a talent.
>and now they're fuckedNot even close. Cover has shown over and over again that they can lose their heavy hitters and continue on just fine by having all of the remaining talents pull just a little bit more weight each. As the other anon pointed out, a more even distribution is ultimately preferable; you don't want to be top-heavy.
Wake me up when Cover fumbles a first army member. Then we'll have something to talk about.
>>103372398Well we know WHY she didn't want to reinvest now
A wedding in Tahiti doesn't pay for itself!
>>103372376I don't think they're getting better. Jurard was worse than any other homo hire and ERB was worse than any other holo hire.
>>103372350She has chat enables only for over 2 year old subscribers as a joke and forgot to switch it off
>>103372426Sana exists, worse than erb
>>103372376TRVKELEAR APOCALYPSE
>>103372320This was members only chat
>>103372423>when Cover fumbles a first army memberCoco, Rushia, Gura, Ame, Fauna, Aqua.
I can feel it carried on the wind
The dogs stir in the yard and whimper
Babies are stunned and drop their toys
Old men's teeth clatter and restless itches wander their skin
Breath shallow for it senses your fear
>Kiara
>>103372426Talents have always been able to do whatever they want in terms of homo collabs, that has never changed
What has changed is the support that cover is giving holoen, and that was the biggest problem they had
>>103372433this is false, I watch her quite often and you're lying
>>103372398Are you actually that much of a gulible retard anon, are you really buying this shit when "le shitty management" was fucking tard handling mumei in japan
How come she's the ONLY one of the EN girls to have had this issue
>>103372473Nope it's true, I don't usually watch her but youtube recommended me this livestream and I was shocked I couldn't chat
>>103372483Mumei also had issues with management in regards to lives are you fucking retarded
>>103372426ERB is fine talent-wise and at least brings singing to the table, don't put her on the same level as the homotards she tries to saviorfag, you fucking homonigger
Even the weakest holo is 10x more than the next nijinig or hometown in line
>>103372464I didn't say otherwise
I said they were the worst hires Cover has ever scouted and are clear evidence of an ongoing malicious pattern that is getting worse
the estrogen levels in this thread are too damn high
at least post tits
Before I'm heading off for lunch
IRyS's anniversary merch remaining stock amount is at 76 (it was at 101 roughly 11 hours ago) with a little bit more than 12 hours left (17 hours to be specific).
The chance to sell everything out is getting smaller and smaller, but she should be able to cut it down to 50 if she drops a stream later tonight?
>>103372509you don't want to see troon tits
>>103372500there are probably ten niji organs I'd prefer to have over ERB
>>103372495no you didn't you fucking faggot, early on she was getting 20 cpm and then it fell off as the stream went on
>>103372483do you watch streams
any at all
like every girl at this point has bitched at them mishandling their lives one way or another
>>103372498>Mumei also had issues with management in regards to livesYeah and that didn't stop her to actually go back and get one for her fans
My god retard your bitch is literally the ONLY one to not give her fans a birthday live
How can you fucking cope so HARD
>>103372414I always hope for RBC as guest in 3D lives and it feels rare
>>103372529mask off already nijinig?
>>103372504worse for them if anything, so far the girls seem to be doing great while the homos are being segregated and begging for ppl to watch their FREE concert
>>103372544kek, AZKi using the good old injun torture
>>103372541>Fauna is the only girl with enough standards to NOT give Cover the opportunity to get their grubby hands on saplings' money when they SC for a shitty 3D live that she had no creative control overAnd?
>>103372500she puts herself as the same level as the homotards
>>103372537>then it fell off as the stream went onThat must be when she enabled old subs only and I started watching
>>103372580she puts herself below them, as an accessory.
>>103372541>Work your ass off for a month>Come back, get covid again>Get hospitalized >Burn the fuck out >Also get doxed again>Have to move again>Why didn't she go back to Japan immediately to do another live less than 6 months later????Gee I dunno buddy
>>103372577>Fauna is the only girl with enough standards>kek buy my fucking merch, it will fund my wedding, thank you retards
>>103372554We have exactly 0 (zero) nijifags in this thread
>>103372545If guests were always unannounced, betting on who arrives would be great for this threads sensibilities
>>103372612Mask off Nimischizo
>>103372617booo get a new excuse nijipag
>>103372584then when did she disable it?
>>103372367In my experience, most of the time when a concert opens extra ticket sales long after it has already sold out initially, it's usually for the crappy seats (i.e: far behind in the back or at the wings) or literally extra seats that they didn't intend to put up on sales at the beginning (which are often crappy, too).
>>103372617It's true
Nobody is pro-anything in here
Only anti
>>103372577>no creative control overpure sapkek cope
>>103372623I bet $5 that Marine will be a guest in whoever's 3D live is next
>>103372644I was just making a sitting in poop joke of course they are bad seats
>>103372639Before I started watching, that's for sure, I'm not going to rewatch vod to find exact moment I joined just for a stupid argument
I wonder what's happening outside that's getting them all riled up
>>103372624ok off the top of my head
>pomu>meloco>kotoka>rosemi>scarle
>>103372540That wasn't the point, anon. No one is trying to pretend that Cover was flawless. The point anons were discussing was whether those issues were as bad and unforgivable as they seemed, or if they could've been solved or improved had the girls (more accurately, the original post was talking about Gura) were more cooperative and communicative.
>1100
what happened again ?
>>103372703Two of those graduated
>>103372679i was asking when she disabled the 2 year chat if you were watching you retard, you were watching right?
>>103372423these people think too much like gunrun
always with the big numbers
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>>103372679Nta
Subscribers only mode is always on btw, you're just that bad at trolling
>>103372703>homo collab whore + can't sing>homo collab whore + can't sing>homo collab whore + can't sing>homo collab whore + can't sing>homo collab whore + can't singya I'd rather have erb
>>103372577>no creative control overhow in the fuck do you say this when we had a girl with a wizard and a 15 children choir and another one with a fucking kart?
>>103372711Gura is cooperative and communicative enough to work with Casey Edwards who had ZERO complaints and also set up merch with omocat all by herself. If there are any problems here, it's not with her.
>>103372703>says he can name 10>asked to name 5>names 2 graduated talents?
>>103372739Ignoring everything else because he's retarded, comparing 2023 to 2025 is stupid as all fuck
>>103372739Literally watch streams, CC was just complaining about how her choreography was unilaterally cut and she practiced a dance for no reason.
>>103372610Now that's fucking hilarious considering how Kronii, the same fucking year in the same timeframe
>took her mom to the hospital twice>got her driving licence>moved>got hospitalized for her follow up surgery>fly to JP to do her 3D live>then fly to korea to deal with a family death>then went back to JP for FesDno buddy maybe you retards were simply not worth any efforts
>>103372687maybe Cover's report or something? the goal seems to be
>PLEASE SHIT ON COVER PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!
>>103372711let's just say Gura's motivation just burned out when it was still Omega's reign of terror. that was the time when Senzawa posted for the first time since Gura's debut.
>>103372712dead board
dead hobby
>>103372761timestamp faggot
>>103372290Fanart, fanfic, fan content in general (tweets, discussion)
Youโd never ever see people going โguys CC is her own person not everything she does is about Bibooโ but you would totally see that about AUTOFISTER, GremReaper, GurAme, TakaMori
>>103372665Hah, that's actually riskier than you think. I bet $30 on Okayu. She wasn't in the last 3D live and she is in them 50% of the time.
>>103372766And the Kronifag reveals himself, still butthurt that saplings correctly called out your clockbitch for sucking homo dick?
>>103372741Casey Edwards was working for her. She paid him and he did what she asked him for - which was just writing lyrics.
Surely you don't think writing lyrics or setting up merch for sales is anywhere nearly as complex as navigating an entire project
>>103372717She forgot to disable it, I said that in my first post. Are you illiterate or esl?
>>103372767yeah, probably that
Some nijinegro or whatever has been spamming about it for a few days now
he literally can't wait lol
>>103372789Nothing Cover does is complex, Saba is managing to do everything herself right now.
>>103372786Do you have any legs to stand on when your cunt is getting married with your merch money and is left to collab with shitstains like mint?
>>103372777That faggot was shitposting in this thread 103368633
>>103372741>its in his best interest not to complainnta but you're not trying with this one
>>103372800then how did she get 80cpm again at the end of her stream you retard
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>>103372766Comparing getting a drivers license to getting doxed is funny. Comparing willingly moving to being forced to because of getting doxed is fucking funny. Implying Kronii continued to stream through all this (she didn't) is even funnier.
>>103372810Yeah, she is an indie. She has a lot less possible legal restrictions. She also hasn't carried out any 3D live on similar level as Hololive's (or for that matter, no other EN non-Holo VTuber has)
>>103372778She is still closer to CC over shiori, which you continue to throw in there for some reason. I dont argue they are like a ship pair in the first place, just someone who she hangs out with on a semi regular basis.
>>103372825He followed her and is willing to make more songs together, that's high praise from Casey Edwards and you'll notice Cover had jackshit to do with it.
>>103372814no one was replying to his dead bait thread?
>a stream is finally being discussed
>it's about a niji stream arguing about a subscriber-locked chat
nice thread niggers!
>>103372714>>103372748why wouldn't graduated talents count? I'd rather have any female nijiEN graduate over ERB, including the valid enbie
Pioneers numberfagging in chat about the ASMR and watchalong viewership, they are proud
>>103372786kekling kronii is a lesbo, nimi literally admitted to sucking dick everyday
>>103372040TakaMori are the rock upon the Eternal Shore. In 1000 years when the ocean has boiled away because people used it all to cool the servers hosting their Grok ERP thereโll be a Filipino in a bunker with a computer powered by a hamster wheel samefagging about Kiara and Mori
>>103372813At least she didn't debase herself on stream by fucking around with homostars
>>103372873You are the thread m8
>>103372813The fuck is mint getting shit on for. Keep your beef with other anon to yourself, don't include innocent bystanders like Mint
>>103372889>inb4 she hasn't revealed the partner is a man
>>103372761and? she also had all the other shit she wanted and asked (between the budget), did you actually watched the stream?
>>103372859What do you need a corpo for then if all they do is cockblock your stream ideas and you can do things a lot more freely without them?
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>>103372857Literally all that list happened in the 4 first months of the year.
>>103372813Do you anti Biboo, FWMC and Nerissa for hanging out with and talking about Mint? Did you anti Kiara for collabing with her? It's so weird how people still keep up this bullshit as if she's not pretty much friends with half of HoloEN
>>103372861Cover did their part, by taking credit on it to make sure no one sings it on stream again.
The truth is that Fauna has always been a disgusting idol-hating normalfag grifter but this thread fucking loved her and not only glossed over that fact but actually started shitting on the "big bad forced idol push investors totally made Cover do".
Only now that she's been completely exposed do people here memoryhole their Fauna worship and try flip the script to criticize her idol-hating pro-normalfag stances.
>>103372932is the green one ohayama?
>>103372889it could still be a woman anon
>>103372426Jurard was hired nearly 2 years ago in what was a very blatant attempt at plugging the hole left by Magni and Vesper which was also the last time homos got any new debuts. The last HomoJP Gen was UPROAR in 2022.
>>103372908what? that leeching boobless whore? the one who went to offpakos? that one just sucked clean Cannur's cock? is she the one you're talking about?
>>103372944>idol-hatingWhy did she willingly participate in a live after she left
>>103372908>>103372934Your bitch worked for vshitshow for a fucking year without even telling your ass LOL
>>103372778>twitterI guess Biboo isn't popular then ?
I hope Biboo stream less and interact more on twitter like Nerissa !
>>103372944Stop making shit up tranny
>>103370238She said they started working on the song years ago. Pretty sure at that point she was still in Hololive and the Holo management took part in it.
reminder Gura has a vampire kyun cover that was already finished but Cover canceled it at the last minute. don't get me started on Full Color too!
>>103372850thats a lame bait but i bet czech faggot is actually thinking that lol
>>103372932let me guess, Rena, Ohayama, and the one going up is Ars
>>103372934mintfag only 2 of them collabed with your whoreshi and they're all not forced to collab with only her and have a plethora of options from the best chuubas in the world
>>103372828You are throwing a lot of numbers anon. First you argue they have no-to-low cpm. Then you say she had like 40 cpm in the beginning. Now it's 80 cpm in the end. The screenshot was showing 4 cpm. The median and average or whatever they are called is probably some bullshit number too
And all I'm getting from that is cpm is meme worthless stat that you shouldn't base your argument on
>>103372972The only part they had in it was to block the song and try to cancel it like they did all her other covers.
>>103372934>hanging out>she spent one day with each one of them
>>103372944>mittsu larper is backokay this thread is really brown now!
>>103372703>Luxiem onahole>Kuzuha cumdump>Luxiem onahole>Tekken fraud pump and dumped small corpos before>Luxiem fangirl and completely useless in collabs, entire content is just hornybaiting and whale farming
>>103372789napling... you won't BELIEVE who told everyone she herself has been sucking actual dick the whole time
>>103372948>start a family
>>103372225i agree, i just want to say that "hate" is a strong word, from the very beginning
>>103373019It's not the 80's anymore, old man.
>>103372986Ok then, let's use unique chatters
GRIIIIM
>>103372741Is Casey Edwards meant to be famously hard to work with or something?
I donโt know much about him but whenever he pops up he seems super professional and genial so Iโd be pretty surprised
>>103372850>EldenLord1986TOP FUCKING KEK, that dude is a complete homosexual
https://x.com/EldenLord1986/status/1948191335376105709
https://x.com/EldenLord1986/status/1889822430669185044
>>103372986>i don't have an answer for you cause i'm just bulshittingit wasn't that hard was it, now go down your estrogen and suck some cock in an alley
>>103373039MY FUCKING EYES
>>103372955Oh I get it now, you are just a vtubersโinโgeneral anti
>>103373039so thats why he got triggered
>>103372810Everything consisting of a single merch run which she spent who knows how long working out pre debut.
>>103372959Plausible deniability so that she could kill the narratives
Plus she didn't have to pay for shit
>>103372927Connections, fundings, facilities - to name a few. The same reasons why most professionals would prefer joining organizations / corporations if they have a chance to over being freelancers.
She wouldn't have been able to "do things a lot more freely without them" if she never joined Hololive to begin with. Not to mention that not everyone has issues with communicating and negotiating ether
>>103373039Fuck you
WARNING DO NOT FUCKING CLICK ON HIS REPLIES UNLESS YOU WANT TO SEE MALE DICK
>>103373037You don't know japanese
yopi raiding ririka instead of the homo
>>103372741didn't she said that Casey managed to transform all her autist bable into the lyrics for ash again?
qrd on the insane Holoanti SEAthe this fine morning?
>>103372112clearly not your first time since i remember a post with the exact same word before
>>103373039Ah, of course, he's a literal woman-hating faggot.
>>103372959Being an idol is way more than just singing and dancing. You don't need to be an idol to participate in a concert and vice versa.
HOLY KEK AFO was even less sold out than thought before. Cover hoarded more tickets than brats
>>103372908>secret VShojo pretending sheโs indie>incredibly obnoxious fanbase who both constantly beg and attack holos because theyโre convinced she owns the concept of MGS>incredibly falsefaced, pulling out โI donโt care about male vtubersโ as though she didnโt literally offcollab with them>worst of all just an incredibly boring streamer
>>103373112they have their periods synchronized
>>103373117>>103373068It's a shame that side that archived YouTube comments to vtubers got ganked, I bet he would be on Vox, Mysta or some other Luxiem chat
>>103373121Yeah the main thing is interacting with fans...
>>103373098First erb, now this one. Is it opposite day?
>>103372861casey edwards also praised bijous remix of his song and was in her chat, it's not some epic feat
>>103373094I'm pretty sure you don't need to know japanese to see how grim it is! LOL
translated it for you :3
>>103373112their botting was useless cause hololive still won
>>103373089You're to easy
>>103373124>Less sold outIt's already sold out. No one cares about scalpers failing to sell their tickets since Hololive members already flat out told fans not to buy from them.
>>103372778Doesn't that just prove that those shippers are way more insane?
>>103373129>secret VShojo pretending sheโs indieAlright, I guess that's true. But what indie wouldn't take that deal
>incredibly obnoxious fanbaseYou are kinda right, but come on, you can't hold a fanbase against vtuber. You don't think /here/ schizos represent all fans of your oshi
>incredibly falsefaced, pulling out โI donโt care about male vtubersโ as though she didnโt literally offcollab with themDistancing yourself from homos is common sense. You can't call someone falsefaced for that. You would need to condemn all of holo en and half of holo jp if that was the case
>worst of all just an incredibly boring streamerYou went too far! Take that back! She is very funny and entertaining! Watch her mgs vods and you will change your mind.
>>103373180not as easy as mrs nightmare
>>103373144The main thing is working hard and remaining "pure" (or as pure as you can). Most of top idols interact with fans much less than your average idols around do or even themselves when they were still small.
>>103373210anon point is that babydoll is so unpopular that they don't have that insane shippers
>>103372712>Nijis and Homos lost again...
>>103373094Here, more low hanging fruits
>>103373231>and remaining "pure" (or as pure as you can)https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanako_Momota
>>103373174>>103373242Looks like fine ratio to me. They were most likely people just like me, got her recommended, watched for some time without commenting and that was that
>>103373242is this bullying?
>>103373039AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, WHY DIDN'T I LISTEN
>>103373232Sure, but it can be popular without the insane ones too
>>103373218God I can recognise by your faggy typing style youโre the same faggot who always goes >OHNONONO HOLOBROS and then posts your retarded off topic culture war garbage.
>>103373124Holofags, any excuse? This looks a lot more than just 87 seats
>>103373218>Distancing yourself from homos is common sense.>Literally fucking joined a collab with the homoniggers
>>103373270>fine ratioonly if you watch botted indian programming streams in your free time (which might be the case lol)
>>103373279it can, but it's not there yet
>>103373207That isn't scalpers it is the new wave of tickets cover held back and just released directly
>>103373270>people just like mefrom portugal?
wavegods vs infinite linear extrapolationchuds
>>103373269>MomoCloZnu-idol shitters. The last golden age of JP idols ended with AKB's recline
>>103373294It's like smoking. You relapse from time to time, but over certain timeframe you are getting better.
>>103372850>>103373039I don't understand, he's right. Do new age Holofags disagree with this classic take?
>>103373320Oh now it doesn't count.
>>103373319oh shit we back
SURFS UP
>>103372761Funny how you tell people to watch the stream when you clearly didn't, she had to cut down the choreography because she couldn't learn it all in time.
>>103373319who's the clearly superior green line there? I project a 40k+ stream
>>103373336go suck dick @EldenFag1986
>>103373336na it's just the grems and otomos here that can't accept them being openly super woke women
76 sets left and 14.5 hours left
will IRyS make it?
Why are mintfags shilling her whore here?
>>103373276Sounds like cope desu
>>103373124>157 blue dotsThat's way less than amount of brrats' hoarded tickets, though?
>>103371488She's GMI, unlike you
>>103373320Momoclo started 3 years after akb which was before akb's recline
>>103373379Still no 400k subs. she can't publish her DOA song with nimi
>>103373380Doesn't matter how it sounds, my oshi streams for 10-20k viewers every time and yours doesn't
>>103373338If you count nu-idols, there would even be idol groups (2 in fact) consist of JAV actresses. Might as well just call pole dancing whores "idols", then
apparently, the Towa has risen. she posted "ใ"
>>103373391Yeah, but they were Phase-level back then and only got big much later
uh holokeks your event?
https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1954875457385463998
>Additional Venue Ticket Sales are opening soon!
> August 11th at 12 PM EDT
>Best of luck to everyone!
>>103373403>Literally labeled idols >BUT IT DOESN'T COUNT You can't even blame westerners for this, shits changing and all you can do is fucking cope.
>>103373336Part of what he wrote is right, but CC didn't voice her opinion. She simply told a story about her grandpa.
>>103372761>>103373350You're both wrong. She learned the choreo, but it was cut. She liked the end result though. She thought it was really funny.
Source: https://youtu.be/a4-rPhUGKwo?t=44m7s
Idk the likes ratio is quite aeroscumpect
>>103373445>Caption: W0W4
>>103373425? they're selling more tickets than they've already sold, what's the problem?
>>103373425>Less than 200 blue dots on a quick count>Additional venue tickets that opened less than an hour agoIs that supposed to be an issue?
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>>103366941 (OP)* YESTERDAYโS FINAL TALLY *
>85,482: AZKi (Hololive)>79,746: Haachama (Hololive)>68,387: Laplus (Hololive)>61,517: Raora (Hololive)>46,305: Marin (Nijisanji)>41,019: Miko (Hololive)>36,824: Pekora (Hololive)>35,636: Korone (Hololive)>29,138: Ririca (Indie)>27,735: Pekora (Hololive)>27,178: Ars (Nijisanji)>26,917: Kanae (Indie)>25,059: Chiroru (Indie)>23,723: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>22,337: Okayu (Hololive)>21,843: Subaru (Hololive)>18,851: Koyori (Hololive)>18,170: Lauren (Nijisanji)>18,033: Rena (Nijisanji)>16,096: Botan (Hololive)>15,916: Saba (Indie)>15,785: Bae (Hololive)>15,017: Mio (Hololive)>14,711: Patra (Indie)>14,614: Ars (Nijisanji)>14,014: Moka (VSPO)>13,564: Noel (Hololive)>12,776: Met (VSPO)>12,721: Towa (Hololive)>12,053: Rin (MAHA5)>11,672: Kokage (VSPO)>11,442: Hinano (VSPO)>10,742: Furen (Nijisanji)>10,352: Lui (Hololive)>10,272: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>10,112: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>>103373401>10-20k viewers
>>103373490yes
seethe now
>>103373478They held back 1/4 the venue tickets to claim that it sold out on the first release. That's retarded.
>>103373478what ever happened to that retard who said when they sell more tickets they lose more money
>>103373336Don't like it? Stop watching. This isn't an airport, you don't need to announce your departure.
>>103373490If not for scalpers no one would buy tickets for your concert holodrone
>>103373497AUG 2025 GOLD
>1) 84,513: Miko (hololive) 7th anniversary totsu + announcements [19]>2) 93,817: Miko (hololive) 7th anniversary Miko Expert Championship [29]>3) 74,948: Miko (hololive) gifts from holomem [37]>4) 85,596: Miko (hololive) holo smash bros weakest tourney pairing [27]>5) 98,678: Miko (hololive) MikoSuba puzzle [30]>6) 143,949: Miko (hololive) holo smash bros weakest tourney [31]>7) 79,136: Miko (Hololive)>8) 82,181: Towa (Hololive) >9) 92,024: Kagami (Nijisanji)>10) 85,482: AZKi (Hololive)> PER COMPANY9x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji
> PER STREAMER7x: Miko
1x: Kagami, Towa, AZKi
>>103373468why the troon flag?
>>103373478They didn't put up all 12K on sales in the initial sales. Guess the concert isn't sold out anymore, huh?
When you think about it it's a miracle they made it that far, appreciate what you had
what will the cope be when these tickets will sell out again?
>>103373492why are you hiding behind jp napling
>>103373525AUG 2025 SILVER
>1) 55,990: Chiroru (indie) baseball>2) 57,434: Elizabeth (hololive) 3D SHOWCASE>3) 57,929: Laplus (hololive) ASMR offcollab w/ Nerissa + FUWAMOCO>4) 37,042: Pekora (hololive) PekoMari taisou>5) 64,501: Chiroru (indie) baseball>6) 53,414: Chiroru (indie) baseball>7) 49,124: Rena (Nijisanji)>8) 81,220: Rine (Nijisanji) >9) 58,538: Rena (Nijisanji) >10) 79,746: Haachama (Hololive)> PER COMPANY3x: indie
4x: hololive
3x: nijisanji
> PER STREAMER3x: Chiroru
2x: Rena
1x: Elizabeth, Laplus, Pekora, Rine, Haachama
>>103373476you can keep denying reality but all the twitter fags, people in their chat, reddit, concert goers holding lgbt flags, have all accepted it
>>103373506Roughly 150 isn't anywhere nearly 1/4 of 6K. Maybe 10 times that
Brats are going to have to fire sale at half of face value to not lose their ass with their hoarded tickets kek
>>103373540AUG 2025 BRONZE
>1) 46,682: Bandage (nijisanji) 3D Reveal>2) 45,437: Chiroru (indie) baseball>3) 54,434: Gigi (hololive) 3D DEBUT>4) 32,727: Miko (hololive) Shironeko Project>5) 39,049: Marine (hololive) PekoMari taisou>6) 44,302: Kuzuha (nijisanji) LTK>7) 40,239: Subaru (Hololive)>8) 46,042: Wen (Nijisanji)>9) 52,086: Cecilia (Hololive)>10) 68,387: Laplus (Hololive) > PER COMPANY3x: nijisanji
1x: indie
6x: hololive
> PER STREAMER1x: Bandage, Chiroru, Gigi, Miko, Marine, Kuzuha, Subaru, Wen, Cecilia, Laplus
>>103373550There's no way 150 is 1/4th of 60k
>>103373517>Initial sales S/O within minutesWithout scalpers it probably would've taken a few hours or so. The horror!
>>103373528It's proper god given rainbow, troon flag has only 6 colors
>>103373538Because I started watching Hololive summer 2019. Why are you obsessed with one announced marriage of a graduated holo when every single one of the holos are amazing women?
>>103373573I knew those brats were in cahoots with Cover!
>>103373563AUG 2025 holoID
>1) 5,063: Kaela (hololive GoroGoro Mountain)>2) 2,304: Reine (umamusume: pretty derby)>3) 2,876: Kaela (Esports World Cup 2025 GRAND FINAL PUBGM)>4) 2,993: Zeta (free talk)>5) 12,345: Kaela (Umamusume: Pretty Derby)>6) 1,833: Ollie (HOLOEARTH)>7) 2,662: Iofi>8) 6,361: Kaela >9) 28,686: Kaela >10) 1,201: Iofi> PER STREAMER5x: Kaela
2x: Iofi
1x: Reine, Zeta, Ollie
>>103373276Arguably idolm@ster, love live, and bang dream helped this kind of development, right? Seiyuu get to kind of have a โsecondโ identity in a sense. Itโs not completely separate, but are able to perform as whatever the character story is. The difference to V-idols would be that the seiyuu might not have a direct hand in developing the character. Itโs all done by the company, producers, and writers. Arguably why Council started off poorly. Instead of character development being in the hands of the โseiyuuโ, the producer kept trying to self-insert. โA step backโ if you will.
>>103373554i genuinely think they should try facebook marketplace
>>103373581I really hate the "wedge issue" flag, they say it's supposed to be inclusive but it literally just looks like gender discourse imposing itself on everything else.