Thread 103370672

Most other ex-nijis have devolved into vomiting out lazy content. VShojo Ex-nijis are particularly guilty of this, and I'm pretty sure their proximity to Ironmouse influences them into doing so. Meanwhile these two are always trying to be up to something. Had Mint's idol wave project worked out, I can only imagine how happy the Wisps would have been for her. Credit where credit's due: they're putting in work.

"Putting in work" as a "vtuber" outside of Hololive is worse than putting in no effort at all because it just prompts more garbage content to exist. They both should have quit after their Holo application got rejected

>>103370917
If no vtubers existed outside of Hololive, fans like you would just start targeting specific Holos and say "her content is garbage, it doesn't belong in Hololive"

Garbage is necessary for jewels to shine. If you can't recognize that as a basic fact, you're a blight on your oshi's fanbase and the broader internet.

>>103371015
>Garbage is necessary for jewels to shine. If you can't recognize that as a basic fact, you're a blight on your oshi's fanbase and the broader internet
So, you admit that Mint and Dokibird are garbage, right? As long as we agree on that, we're on the same page.
No idea why people care so much about these Holo rejects, Biboo could literally put in a tiny fraction of the effort of either of them and produce better content than they ever have in their entire career.

>>103371228
What is your opinion of CC?

>>103371228
>no idea why people care so much about these Holo rejects

Because all Biboo does is look cute for the camera and play games the broader majority of a male audience likes. For all her streaming hours and the work she puts in, it all ultimately benefits Hololive and its gilded cage. Unironically unityfagging is the future going into 2026. Hololive EN continues to be a lighthouse: a beacon people look up to, but is located at the far end of the shore all alone.

>>103371592
>Because all Biboo does is look cute for the camera and play games the broader majority of a male audience likes
That's literally exactly what vtubers are supposed to be. They're not supposed to pander to dykes and normalfags like Dokibird and Mint.
>>103371496
She's great.

>>103371015
>If no vtubers existed outside of Hololive, fans like you would just start targeting specific Holos and say "her content is garbage, it doesn't belong in Hololive"
They already do this constantly.

>>103370672 (OP)
Nijiwhore on screen? Alt+F4

>>103371924
Still not watching your nijiwhores.

>>103371706
This might surprise you, but did you know that CC was a vtuber before she joined Hololive? Do you think she was garbage back then, and that Cover hired, according to your own definition, garbage?

>>103372194
The whole point of Hololive is that it's a blank slate. I don't care that CC was some shitty indie before, once they're in they've made the cut and anything before ceases to matter

Honestly, I watched a few of their streams before and after corpo and now they feel like they have reached higher quality.

>>103372502
>now they feel like they have reached higher quality
but they're still hololive rejects, so their streams are trash

>>103372601
Go back to cooking your stake over the fire, you damn Holokek tribalist

>>103372335
The "blank slate" only gets applied after being hired. Cover's hiring process happens before they are hired. Ergo, Cover hires garbage.

>devolved
They've always been like this, because Niji only hires shitstains

>>103372746
>Ergo, Cover hires garbage
Well, yeah. The whole point of Hololive is that it makes idols out of basically nothing. That's the whole idol journey and why they're so restrictive as to what they can say and do, and don't make me tap the sign etc

>>103372816
You do know that just because some of the current nijis are pieces of shit doesn't mean that the older ones/ex-nijis are shit as well, right?

Hate the corpo and those who worship it, not all of those who work on it

>>103373082
All of them are scum you fucking retard. Every single one.
Doki is a fucking menhera who dishes out "bantz" but can never take them, who has mental breakdowns every time she chokes and gets exposed in FPS games.
Mint is a lying bitch who was perfectly fine with being Luca's cocksleeve, did that disgusting fake yuribait offcollab that had a surprise male sex pest (which Finana openly admitted to lying about), shittalked her own fans for being ESL, not to mention pretending to be indie for a fucking year.
Kuro is tax-evading dramaqueen who got one-guyed by a single anti for literal years and STILL shitlicks and whiteknights Nijisanji and seethes about Niji antis.
Matara leeched off the luxiem sex pests for numbers so fucking hard the nijisisters actually hated her more than men, and still dicksucked the bully clique even after leaving.
The list goes on.
All of them are scum, all of them very completely aware of the many many internal acts of cartoon villainy perpetuated in that black hole of a corporation and never cared until they were personally affected.

>>103373257
>shittalked her own fans for being ESL
based if true

>>103373257
>Menhera when chokes on FPS games
You mean what most FPS gamers are when they choke on shit?
>Yuri bait and pretending to be an inde
The fact that you are salty about this means you feel for the bait, which is a skill issue you should know that most vtubers are only in for the money since it's a job
>Kuro is tax-evading dramaqueen who got one-guyed by a single anti for literal years and STILL shitlicks and whiteknights Nijisanji and seethes about Niji antis.
Dunno. who the fuck Kuro is, but tax evasion is peak. The rest, though? Yeah, fuck that. I'll take your word for it
>Matara
Meh
>All of them are scum, all of them very completely aware of the many many internal acts of cartoon villainy perpetuated in that black hole of a corporation and never cared until they were personally affected.
So what? you want them to go fight the place that probably showed them from day one that they didn't view them as human. because as far as the contract they were stuck in said, they weren't?
Not saying that they are paragons, but I can hardly blame them for not trying to fight the Japanese corporation.

>>103370672 (OP)
they've had good output since they first debuted as indies
it's literally everyone else that puts in zero effort

>>103371015
>fans like you
Bold of you to assume that retard is one.

>>103373257
NijiSEETHE

>>103373257
These are some seriously outdated rrats that I've only seen used in sister seethe threads.
You're either a sister or a tourist.

>>103373257
Go figure, the entire reason and narrative for this thread was nijisister seething. Who could've guessed? I'll be seeing you tomorrow for the next thread then.

>>103375242
>>103375503
>>103375658
>mass reply meltdown
Nerves? Struck.

>>103375658
Nah, it's just nijisisters being salty. OP seems like hes chill

>>103373257
>not to mention pretending to be indie for a fucking year.
When indies sign a contract with a corpo, they don't immediately run to their fans and divulge every piece of info, nor do they immediately drop off the face of the internet. They continue streaming as indies for a while, before eventually debuting in the corpo. This is the case for Mint as well. It wasn't going to stay secret forever - she (and the rest of the planned idol gen) were going to debut back in March. Then Vshojo delayed it to June, and then again to September. Trying to shit on her for something that virtually all indies-gone-corpo go through makes you look so disingenuous.

>>103373257
The others I don't care enough to know about, or you've made true statements about them but as far as Mint goes
The yuri bait-and-switch was entirely Finana's fault.
I fully believe management pushed all the girls to collab with males for numbers (specifically the males' numbers)
Shit talking ESLs is morally right
The last point is simply retarded, obviously you can't break the contract that you signed to let people know you joined an org before they officially announce it

>>103376257
>i-it was all management, they scripted it!

>>103370672 (OP)
The thing with the vshojos is more the fact that Vshojo and twitch streamers in general focus on the streams rather than any kind of extracurricular stuff, as streaming is their main revenue source. It's how they're able to stream for 8-12+ hours a day. They can employ clippers whose sole purpose is to attract them to the streams.

Doki and Mint meanwhile are a bit corpo/idol-brained and don't focus as much time on streaming compared to backend.
Mint's a huge idolfag on the level of FuwaMoco and Kiara, and wants to do a lot of music stuff. She loves underground idols and the culture of chanting/dancing along with the girls on stage and/or sharing music and gravure, so that's the kind of thing she's always planning for/cooking up. Wisps travel all over the country to have fun at her concerts. Interestingly, her streams, while entertaining and creative, rarely use any expensive assets or effects. It's always either stock footage or images with some obs effects and royalty-free pngs. Compared to Doki, I'd say she's more resourceful in that way.

Doki meanwhile is content-brained to a fault. She's always planning to one up herself with the next project. She wants things bigger, louder, and with more people smiling and having fun as possible. She's stated before how she always wants her next event/concert/video to be bigger than the last one, and is never content with herself because there's always something she could've done more.

For example in Doki's case, in 2023, Doki worked with Kanauru to have a birthday concert stream using her branchmates and mocap.
In 2024, she had a full blown concert starring her and Mint in person to a near sold out theater in Atlanta.
In 2025, she had a fully produced concert using China's biggest esports company as her production/mocap team, with even more attendants at one of the largest venues in NA, Anime Expo, and made sure to shine the spotlight on friends like Shachi, Hiiro, and the Sloppy Sisters. That project cost over 50,000 USD between the production, flights, dance/singing lessons, etc.
Now, she's currently working on a 3D debut that she claims might reach 6 digits to produce, and she's planning to pay to fly in her friends for the recordings so they don't need to save for a china trip.
After that, her newest long-term goal is to have a massive world tour concert with a ton of indies performing in not just NA, but europe, hong kong, etc.

I'm still a bit annoyed at how much that place held these two and their dreams back.

>>103376713
They basically went through those devolutions that make their power level reach god status

i wonder how they are going to be doing in the next 5 years.