Thread 103393458

summer edition
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>>103393464
BAU BAU

They keep doing less and less FWMC mornings, which of couese are their evenings.
If they were actually busy with work, wouldn't it be better if their mornings were free and not their evenings? The only reason that it would be good for them to have their evenings free would be if they were hanging out with friends or dating or something.
Because we are sure as hell that they aren't going to bed at 10 PM.

Is that schizo who thinks Fuwawa is abusing Mococo still around? His comments are so surreal to read.

>>103393898
Fuwawa banned him 2-3 month ago

>103393693
Shitty bait that doesn't deserve a (you)

cute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqyP0IVpjpk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqyP0IVpjpk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqyP0IVpjpk

>>103394322
I am worried about the elementary schoolers drawing Marine

>>103394376
They love her tiktok slop. I am surprised FWMC never consider doing stuff on tiktok

>>103394482
notFuwawa and notPero at number 2

>>103393913
Probably for the best, but I do miss reading his specific strain of mental illness ngl

Fuwawa is happy knowing that the Wuffians cum to her floofies

Man this thread really did not survive the split, huh

Fuwawa 3:16
"For Fuwawa so loved the wuffians that she displayed her floofies, that whosoever looketh upon them should not perish, but have everlasting life"

>>103395132
You say that, but the same /baubau/ tower thread has been open since July 27... what's the real dead general here?

>>103393464
BAU BAU
>>103395554
BAUMEN

>>103394679
I was so fucking confused on who was speaking until I realized it was Shiori.

>>103394355
>Everytime you die, you hear Mococo moan and Fuwawa giggle

>>103397354
>kronii

>>103395964
I think a few generals moved to the hlgg thread

>>103398549
fuwawa if green instead of blonde

>>103398560
No one has green hair naturally

Nice. Shame we're finding out the schedule through thumbnails but this should fun

>>103398853
I am going to presume that outfit on the thumbnail is going to be in the solo live and just for that I would be tempted to buy a ticket but instead I’m just going to wait for screenshots.

>103399034
You really gotta beg this early?

Did they mention anything about participating in the summer minecraft event?

>>103399293
It's creative mode till the last day, do you think they'd actually try to build something when they don't know 80% of the blocks
They'll probably join in on the sights on celebration day

>>103398853
Kanata's 3D lives were immensily kino in the past, I'm sure her solo live will be amazing.

>>103399374
They could try to build some small pixel art with just wool blocks I guess

FWMC should play Groove Coaster too, it's a fun music rhythm game and has many holo songs by now

>>103393464
UAB UAB

>>103398853
One of my all time favorite performances: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pC9JaHyyjQ&t=1847

Just amazing

>>103401321
This 3D LIVE was awesome. Too much stuff to buy this month though so I'll sit this one out.

>>103401321
That range
https://youtu.be/UdbB5g1ncHs?t=844

They should do an idol autism talk with Kanata, she knows quite a lot about idols too

megaanon
https://gofile.io/d/8QIc2A

Kissing Fuwawa with tongue

>>103401567
Yeah, Kiara and Kanata talked a bit during her Holotalk about idol stuff. It would be cute.

Meh, will be a kino sololive but I can't afford to buy anything at this time.

>>103399096
>>103401377
>>103403131
Okay okay we get it already, fuck

>>103403176
language

>>103398853
her 3D lives are always kino

so where is the schedule?

>>103403429
Pero ate it the FAT FUCK

>>103403429
up my butt

nice

>>103403578
how the hell does Ao have more dots than a lot of her JP senpai.

>>103403578
>approximately tied with ERB
lmao

>>103403176
Did you buy the ever cute and ever sweet 2nd anniversary merch? It's only available until the first of September and only costs $291 shipped to the US before tax!
You get the cute (and nasty) Pero hat, a really nice ita shirt (image print shirt), a cool new art piece of them by Icomochi with the Ruffians on it, a double sided pillow, and last but not least a really overly sweet voicepack of (you) on a cute date with FWMC at one of their favorite places, a cat cafe!
Don't forget the all for one merch, wanna make sure Cover knows we want more EN idol concerts so FWMC get more chances to do what they love, singing and dancing on stage! It's only $240 to get everything FWMC are in on that one, including that sweet happi with all of them in their idol outfits. The money will show Cover (you) want more concerts which will make FWMC happy!

>>103403578
what do the colors mean

>>103403648
EN is a dying market. it got hard carried by JP in the latest quarter

>>103403666
Nothing

>>103403686
>NA falls to half
>overall sales still increase
NAbros... we're negligible...

>>103403578
Some of these have multiple pages stacked already

>>103403718
Kill the branch already then if it's so negligible
Oh wait, they're still making good money on it so they never would. We'll just increasingly desperate pleas from EN members to buy their merch like IRyS did the last few days.

it's Dirty Fuwawa's 5th anniversary.

>>103403648
I never want to see you shitpost about them shilling their merch

Or you could just acknowledge that it was due to tariff scares

>>103398853
That's cool, won't be watching it though. I'm gonna be there in person, I hope I don't show up in the crowd cams...

>>103393693
This is why they never talk about what they do off-stream anymore, btw.

FUWAMOCO is the saving grace of EN

>>103403881
The sets struggling/failing to sell out limited was eye opening to me, I assumed they weren't even half of the revenue of merch sales, but I guess it's actually the large majority. If even Limited isn't selling out, then zero regular complete sets are sold. And while individual items may have decent sales, I doubt they make for most of the sales.
Back when limited sold out instantly I assumed regular complete sold a lot more than Limited, but now I find that very difficult to believe. They weren't selling out with THAT many people missing out.

>>103403960
I don't know about that. I myself have sometimes only bought individual merch items of various holos instead of full sets cause I often just want one or two things and not some other expensive thing in the set.

>>103403960
Yeah, what people don't get is if limited is still available no one with a brain is buying a regular set. There might be some that buy single items but with how high shipping and tariffs are it becomes a matter of already spending a lot on shipping regardless so either get the full set or nothing. Cover's optimism for recovery in EN merch seems misplaced but maybe they have a solution that isnt just shit out a thousand sets and thr card game to drain whales

>>103404019
Shipping is a lot less if you only buy small stuff instead of a set that also has a daki or giant pillow or huge plushie in it.

FUWAMOCO will be in the kingmaker's karaoke twitter space in a few hours. You better be there too.

>>103404010
Sure, me too, which is why I assumed most people were like that, but if 2000 fans willing to buy a full set is a tall ask, how many single item fans really are there? I assumed the 2000 sets selling out instantly meant that many more thousands wanted the sets but just couldn't buy them in time, but it was probably just a couple hundred missing out at most.

>>103403960
>Back when limited sold out instantly I assumed regular complete sold a lot more than Limited
You assumed wrong. Fauna sold 1500 limited and about 200-300 regular set at her peak

>>103404060
Yeah, I realize that now.

>>103404042
Maybe. I remember even if I wanted only the pledge which was legitimately a printed paper and cheap holder it was going to be $75.

>>103404042
>Shipping is a lot less if you only buy small stuff
Are you sure about that?

>>103404049
>4:00am JST
yeah no, these hags will be fast asleep and so will I

>>103404110
I can only speak for myself, but yes, for me it makes a big difference to my country in the EU. Always have to look at things individually, it's never easy to tell what some thresholds are.
With FWMC I buy the full limited sets asap when I can anyhow but for others I often wait and try all combinations to see what makes sense.

For example I only bought Biboo's cyberpunk-ish mouse pad and for CC I only bought her otomo cable holder and squeezable otomo toy instead of their sets.

>>103404110
I mean the hat is relatively big compared to the plastic knickknacks. DHL accounts for size while ems would mostly account for weight

>>103404080
I only got the pledge too, went with geekjack because holoshop was way too expensive to ship a package this small since they only use fast shipping.
It was still like 20 bucks in shipping which is wild for paper.

>>103403960
It also costs the talent money to produce the test example.

>>103404222
>isreal
yt is gay...

>>103404158
That's utter horseshit. Cover NEEDS to fogure out shipping. The tariffs are what they are and they have no way to change that, but 45 dollars for a hat that will be packaged flat is fucking insane.

>>103404019
>maybe they have a solution that isnt just shit out a thousand sets and thr card game to drain whales
Seems like they want to ship from the US. Wouldn't help much with tariffs but could make a big difference in shipping costs at least since they'd ship everything to their own warehouse in bulk and then customers only pay for local shipping with a slight markup to help recoup that initial bulk shipping cost. At least you're not paying Japan->US anymore, you're paying US->US but slightly more expensive.

>>103404179
Just the pledge alone is crazy when you think about it. The item + shipping + tax all for a sheet of paper in a little frame, really. The things we do for our oshis...

>>103404222
The world gets gayer by the minute...

>>103404222
In their defense, Fuwawa's very existence is NSFW. She's the aspect of sex, the incarnation of lust.

>>103404326
Say that again when the yellow mark on their channel means they get even more Pero-happy next VN stream and hold back on the members christmas VN.

>>103404222
Why. It's just upskirt shots of a fully-grown demon dog puppy. Even 70s kids anime had more gratuitous fan service.

>>103404222
Is this why their 3D seems to get hidden by the algorithm? Probably flagged for some gay reason?

>>103404352
I'm just saying, Fuwawa is so erotic...

The idiots at youtube are also rolling out AI assisted age verification tools. Prepare for more fuckery this year

>>103404404
At least for that I'm safe because even if my youtube account was made on the day I was born I would still be 19 years old. Won't need to verify anything, probably.

>>103404404
I swear to god if those faggots expect me to upload a photo of my license or passport when I have an account from 2008 I'm gonna be fucking pissed

>>103404384
Don't listen to him, he's forced to say that by you know who...

Without the corporatization of the internet we wouldn't have Holo/FWMC, with it we get this gay ass shit.

>>103404446
That shit will come on all sorts of pages. And fuck if I will do that, there WILL be data breaches and leaks before long, no way that info would be truly secure with dozens of different sites and vendors forever.

>>103404446
>If the system has inaccurately called out a viewer as a minor, the mistake can be corrected by showing YouTube a government-issued identification card, a credit card or a selfie.

Fuwawa soon will have to have Pero covering her obscene tits at all times on stream and she won't be allowed to use her 3D model anymore without a censor like what they did to korosan in raora's 3D.

even in this bleak future where Corporate Wars between mega corporations will begin, FWMC will still protect my smile.

>>103404501
>there WILL be data breaches and leaks before long,
That's exactly what I'm concerned about, google can barely keep youtube running stable for a stream.

>>103404604
Google already has access to everyone's everything info in the US if you use the internet. They're essentially a government entity.

>>103404566
>or a selfie.
Ok that I can deal with if they want a pic of my face then fine.

>>103404626
Yeah I tend to forget just how intertwined google with everything nowadays, it's getting way too far out of hand.

>>103404629
They'll force you to use it as your profile picture to avoid identity impersonating and make handles your full legal name

Muiru just bau bau'd playing FFVII Rebirth

>>103404658
Well atleast Fuwawa can see how handsome I am

>>103404724
Who?

>>103404726
>wuffians, this belly of yours can be bigger. ehehehehe

>>103404783
I could see Fuwawa doing that in an SC reading

>>103404726
They're giving a serial wapist access to a full database of pictures of potential victims...

>>103404726
>The wuffians are really dusty
>eheheheh~

>>103404280
I don't understand how that wasn't something they did the moment rhey announced a US branch/office. How can they act like they were caught off guard by this? I'm beginning to believe they full on are stealing money with the shipping they charge by getting a cut from DHL.

>>103404596
You jest but Choco-sensei's default outfit got censored because she kept getting youtube strikes for her cleavage. She was NOT happy about it, and it shows it's an actual possibility.
Patra's panties became spats in the FWMC collab too, so there's very recent precedent of Cover making this kind of change to avoid trouble with youtube.

>>103404867
I was dead serious, I think it's going to happen. They played the Korone censor as a joke but I think it was required.

>>103404809
I mean it could be worse atleast this time it's Fuwawa
>>103404822
Fuwawa poking fun at us will never cease to make me smile

>>103404836
The US office was never mean to be a warehouse. It is an office for them to negotiate deals with US-based businesses. A warehouse will require additional investment. It is more likely that cover will chose to ride it out since JP and the TCG is carrying the revenue

>>103404822
One of these times she's going to cause someone to kill themselves, teasing loke thay is never funny.

>>103404903
As long as they're ok with US sales flattening at a 50% power baseline then that's fine. No one but the rich and mentally ill are paying these prices for merch now. Maybe they're confident that the card game and gacha can make up the money.

All this censorship stuff always leads back to the credit card processors having too much power.

>>103404944
>US sales flattening at a 50% power baseline
US never make up 50% of the sales. It was 50% of FOREIGN sales. If anything, cover seems to be pivoting more to Japan as a short-term strategy with mythmash being targeted at JP

>>103404626
That's more reason for them to NOT bother me asking for shit, not for them to do it.

>>103404944
>Maybe they're confident that the card game and gacha can make up the money
Which is bad for the talents because the profit cuts is definitely smaller there. They earned their paycheque through anniversary and birthday merch

>>103405036
By smaller, you mean probably the smallest of all options.

>>103404598
>we finally live in a Cyberpunk world
>it's just the dystopia part, the cool tech and atmospheric parts were never invented
I hate it

>>103405045
I suspect it is just some flatrate 10k USD for image rights.

>>103405088
Which likely means any future sets are already paid for and they won't get anything past what they have.
We'll never actually know, but you can look at something similar (and more labor intensive) with stuff like artist being hired to make art for a card game.

>>103405036
It does end up helping talents anyway because of the exclusive cards for merch sets. Card collectors are addicted enough to buy your set just for that, probably a big boost to non-limited set sales that used to be just the people who wanted Limited but couldn't buy in time.

I love the Fuwawa part in #FUWAMOCO

>>103405196
Or, like most sane people, you just buy the card second hand on a place like ebay because you don't give a shit about the talent.

>>103405296
If the card is set exclusive, every second hand card is a set sold.

>>103405296
Those are usually way more expensive. A suisei signed card is like 100k yen.

>>103405036
I doubt they even get a cut beyond the tiniest of tiny from the card game and gacha. Cover doesn't need to pay them to use the IP, they own it. Maybe if they design a card like Mori did they get slightly more but still barely anything. The talents are going to be bearing the brunt of the impact of physical merch falling off a cliff and cover seems OK with it. I hope that the ocg and gacha money goes towards helping pay for 3D, studio and projects though because those were previously funded heavily by the special talent merch out of the talent's own pockets.

>>103405196
Not really worth it. The cards aren't even holographic or signed and you can't even use them in the EN version of the game. They suck either way.

>>103404889
>>103404907
She's just being Fluffy

#helpFWMC
Hihi FUWAMOCO!
I noticed that in your music playlist the songs メインテーマ『藍染サマータイム and Gensis is missing!
Would it be possible to add them?
I really love all the music you sing and I listen to your music playlist a lot
Thank you so much in advance!

>738
>SEVEN HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT EMPLOYEES
>Somehow Holos still have to share managers which leads to them becoming overworked and shit falling through
Delete HoloEarth.

>>103405681
Makes sense to share managers if the talent isn't doing enough to keep a full time employee busy full time. Why would Ayame have an exclusive manager?

What's your reason for still being a Ruffian?

>>103405832
I am still having fun?

>>103405804
none of these managers are doing much.

>>103405681
The financial fallout from that flopping will be spectacular

>>103405832
Guilt and sunk-cost fallacy

>>103405832
I love FUWAMOCO

>>103405832
They LOVE the ruffians!

>>103405832
It really makes me rethink my life choices when considering how much time and money I spend on them. Want to cut back and live my life more, but I feel they'll completely forget about me if I leave for a while and it'll all be meaningless, even though it already is considering how one sided a relationship this all is

>>103401366
>>103401760
Aren't Fuwawa's breasts a bit big...? She should calm herself.

>>103405880
are you? why is your response a question?

>>103405832
The fluffy one makes me fuwa fuwa. The fuzzy one makes me moco moco

>>103405832
Sometimes they have fun streams. Sunday was great and tonight will be too.

>>103406121
>vrooooooom

>>103405832
The other girl was watching instead of them turned into a huge mistake so I came crawling back.

fuwamoco should play this hunting game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyYIV2nEgj8

>>103406089
Yes. Because I am baffled why the shitposter(you) don’t move on and instead squat in baubau all day

>>103406178
Are you the guy who oshihened to shiori?

>>103406194
Can't do the no stream loop anymore.

>>103406194
wrong, it wasn't me. I could tell you were a fucking faggot by your response.

>>103406223
Yep and I regret it deeply.

>>103405832
I've got over 20 grand invested in them from merch and superchats so I'm ride or die until the end no matter how miserable I am at times.

>>103406390
fuck off and stay gone, doomer

>>103406351
Before that collab, some of you were pretty obnoxious in /baubau/ about how great shiori was

>>103406569
Oh that was me. I've only watched a single Shiori stream

>>103406569
Thanks to that collab that won't happen again

>>103406390
>20 grand
At that point just buy them a ring and propose to them.

>>103406666
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the more delusional paypuppies already have been shopping or purchased rights. gachitards are losers

How do I break the spell FWMC have over me?

>>103406688
Peroro..

>>103406776
first thing you can do is fuck off from here.

>>103406776
It's too late you're Fuwawa's wuffian forever now

>>103406776
You are her toy now

Now that we know FUWAMOCO are making 60k a month, why is anyone still sending them superchats?

>>103406904
That little? I should send more, then.

>>103406904
It's 36k, retard. They don't get paid as two talents for one channel.

>>103406904
Gachitards like throwing water into the ocean if it means they can get a crumb of attention

>>103406904
Isn't that average? I am pretty sure it is skewed towards marine, suisei, miko, pekora etc

>>103406962
It's average but there's no world where FWMC are not at least at average if not above. The entire stars branch counters the heavy hitters on the JP side. FWMC were also some of the top SC and merch sellers in the entire company so if anything they are above average.

>>103406996
Migger numbers were leaked last year and it was 5 million USD a year. She alone counters homoEN

>>103406904
I send them superchats because I like hearing them talk to me. I don't care if they are rich or poor, I love them not their money.

>>103406954
Why are you even here? You sound like one of those retarded normalfags that's against "parasocialism".

>>103406904
>Now that we know FUWAMOCO are making 60k a month
We do? Was that posted somewhere?

>>103406854
Isn't this rape?

>>103407084
Because you give him attention.

>>103407055
That was with her album and the sololive though. She can't be averaging that every year, although it's definitely at least a couple million a year.

>>103406904
That's like nothing split between two people anon.
>>103407055
You also have to account for the fact that they invest a lot of their own money back into their projects.

>>103407095
Cover earnings report lists out the money paid to talents on aggregate. Some math and you get the average.

>>103407107
I am more curious what is suisei numbers like with all the concerts and albums

>>103407125
>~400k USD a year is nothing
I know some of you are tech god millionaires but seriously you are calling that nothing?

>>103406828
>>103406866
No... FuWAWAAAA

We should be a lot more concerned with how much the Homos are getting piad.

>>103407160
Cost of living.

>>103407230
They live in a shitty one bedroom apartment and eat 3 strawberries a day. Even in the outskirts of Tokyo their COL is nowhere near high enough to make 400k a year nothing.

>>103407160
nta, but you lose perspective once you start the grind in big tech. I am guilty of that as well

>>103407160
>400k a year
and that isn't including the 30k they bring in for nothing from patreon yearly

The perfect woman

>>103407278
Kek I was thinking about that. They wouldn't even have to do Hololive and they'd still be set for life.

There's no way they are making anywhere near that is there? I have ignored that part since forever but now I'm having a crisis... I thought that idols were underpaid and a hard working grind dependent on fan support....

>>103407160
The expenditure can ramp up pretty quickly. For example, marine mvs are all 6 figures. FWMC hasn’t gotten to that stage and maybe they never will, but they are probably going to splurge on that first album

>>103407329
2/10

>>103407329
That's only ID because they get paid in SEA money. Which still makes them incredibly rich, just 5x less rich than everyone else because their currency means nothing elsewhere.

>>103407357
They were crying last year that without ruffians support they wouldn't be able to achieve their dreams but to me it looks like being in hololive even with 0 fans is enough to live a lavish lifestyle.

Even a “shitter” like roboco owns land. Holos don’t struggle for money, they struggle for popularity and funding to advance their goals, whatever goals those are

>>103407336
They literally haven't done a single high budget MV. All of their songs have been 3 moving pictures. At max, it's a few thousand bucks.

>>103407394
1/10

It's off topic but I'm upset they aren't doing meet and greets. Even the homos have them for their super karaoke and cons. What could possibly be the hold up if FWMC are being honest when they say they beg for it every time?

They don't deserve what they have

>>103407255
you retards are still pretending like they aren't eating well. they've been mentioning all kinds of food and it's not like they are telling you everything.

>>103407449
They deserve what they have after a life of misery but they won't deserve more unless they start doing content that justifies earning more than nearly all of their viewers.

>>103407416
Then why did Gura and the rest quit dumbass? If they could just make money by doing nothing.

>>103407468
>after a life of misery
Nigga they had a great life, they were just weebs who wished they were Japanese

>>103407445
Unironically because they are not as popular in NA compared to someone like nerissa. Homos get charity slots

>>103407437
Lifetime Showtime is comparable to Unison.
https://viewsync.net/watch?v=Nj17tbZP4oA&t=0&v=_VIeV_LZXHM&t=0&mode=solo
Not any moment as expensive as the sakuga at the end of Unison but more moving parts throughout the song and more unique frames.

>>103407468
>life of misery
>born into a privileged home
>parents that support their every dream
>had great opportunities at every stage of their life
>able to amass fans out of nowhere
>literally had people willing to support them financially for nothing
You have no idea how lucky they are.

>>103407524
exactly. it's laughable when I see people say shit like this when I compare it to my own life.

>>103407512
My bad you're right, I forgot about Lifetime Showtime

>>103407445
Money. You think Cover is giving two talents for the price of one? For karaoke it makes sense since a lot more people will show up for a FUWAMOCO karaoke than for a Fuwawa or Mococo karaoke. But will more people show up for a FUWAMOCO meet and greet compared to, say, a Shiori M&G and a Biboo M&G combined? No way. Maybe in Japan they would, but then the competition is Suisei, not EN anymore, and they lose again.

>>103407468
>life of misery
Just because they act like spoiled brats about their past doesn't mean they weren't more privileged than most. They got to pursue a dead end career as idols in the west and even got to move to fucking Japan for a while. Most people aren't thinking about anything but rent and the next meal and they were living out a weeb fantasy with overpriced merch and all.

>>103407524
that all only happens post-burrito

>>103407580
yes way. more people would.

>>103407445
Their last M&G was over at Anime Impulse right? I forget. Still that one was a shitshow with how the con handled the M&G ticket raffle. Kinda do wish they would do some more here in the states.

>>103407580
It's this. Cover charges cons and excessive premium for FUWAMOCO appearances and meet and greets. Cons get essentially 1 guest for more than any other member of EN. They probably cost more than Mori even which is insane. We saw this when the one M&G they did had them separate initially then had to combine them and double the ticket cost. Not many people are paying $130 plus travel and con badge prices to spend 2 minutes with them.

>>103407492
Maybe not having talents constantly complaining that they don't have enough, like, say, someone in ID begging for Nendoroids every other day, would help a bit in not making her fans feel like they're not doing enough.

Unless cover starts a hololive EN con in the US I genuinely think FWMC will not do another meet and greet in NA for the rest of their time in hololive. They might have one in Japan or another in Taiwan.

>>103407492
Didn’t id complain about their fans not spending enough?

>>103407524
>parents that support their every dream
lol

I prefer stuff like super karaoke over m&g

>>103407725
>dead papa puppy rrat
O I'm laffin

>>103407607
Maybe, I'm willing to think you could be right. I'm not willing to bet with my money, though. Talk is cheap. I don't blame any con organizer for not taking the chance. Especially when they not longer have the novelty factor.

>>103407662
Agreed. This is probably why then. That's what happened at AI where their M&G got combined.

>>103407492
the fuck's even happening in id anw

>>103407766
ID branch concert next week

>>103407591
You could say this about most Holos. It's not like any of them had major tragedies in their lives or lived poor in a one parent household.

>>103407766
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ui2UbZkCUHw

>>103407784
>>103407823
does that really excuses their gura-equivalent to just disappear for a month

>>103407808
The only one with a tragic childhood was Watame.

Counting all our mistakes
Wanna sleep, but It won't happen
Waiting for the daybreak
I'm wide awake, relieving the past and
Still haunted by the ghost of you
Everywhere I look, it's like you're always there
Despite the fact that I'm on my own

>>103407852
She doesn’t stream much. And I think cover prefers she streams more on b2

>>103407662
Cover takes 2x the money
They give 1 (maybe 1.5x) the money
Profit

>>103407865
Newissa please for the jailbirds mental well being just stream something

>>103407856
>Watame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogqv6CtBfbE

>>103407901
KEK

>>103407901
kek

>>103407852
>gura-equivalent
>doesn't stream
like pottery

>>103407691
They did say they want to make something like expo in the US if they can get the right company to partner with. Who would be willing to be NA's Bushiroad?

>>103407936
goddamnit

>>103407901
Watame is so beautiful...

It's best not to think about backstory and just jam. When you put anything more than a superficial thought about their time in the cell it all falls apart. It was the hardest time of their life and the world was out to get them and you should feel bad because... they didn't immediately ger exactly what they wanted all the time? It sucks but that's life for literally everyone but golden spoon nepo babies. Just because you want something and even if you try to get it and don't doesn't mean you had a hard life. It means you're a normal person and need to adapt and have realistic goals. I'm tired of pretending their time in the Cell is something only unique to them. Most of their ruffians are currently living in situations worse than the worst fwmc ever experienced.

>>103407746
What do you mean dead? They just didn't support them.

>>103407901
Fuck it, watch this with Advent

>>103407985
>they didn't immediately ger exactly what they wanted all the time?
Papa Puppy wanted Fuwawa to be an accountant and for Mococo to stop shutting herself in her room playing VNs and get a job but they wanted to be Japanese idols, how fucking dare he

>ger
ESL monkey trying to lecture FUWAMOCO on life conditions lmao. Clean the shit off your hands first, bud.

>>103407901
Why does not having a father create women like this

>>103407985
The difference is that they never gave up. That's what makes people want to support them. They were faced with the same hardships most of us were, but instead of giving up and saying "that's life, not gonna miss a meal to chase retarded childhood dreams, time to grow up" they kept going and trying against all odds, and now they made it.
And that's a great story worth celebrating. Unless you're a tranny faggot who wants everyone else to be as miserable as you are because you can't get over the fact that you were born a man and will die a man.

>>103408046
>life conditions
FWMC had the best, but they wanted to be weebs lol

>>103408071
>They were faced with the same hardships most of us were

>>103408081
Definitely more hardships than any frogposting phonefag zoomer.

>>103408071
Gachitards are so retarded it's pretty remarkable

>>103407985
It's unique to them and thousands of other vtubers and streamers and tens of thousands of actors, artists, and performers. If you don't have a relatable story, no one gives a fuck.

>>103408071
This

>>103408071
>They were faced with the same hardships most of us were
lol
lmao even

>>103408071
Dang wuffian they didn't like this post

>>103408020
To be fair, I'd think the same no matter what situation if my daughter went to college and is now in her late 20s.

>>103408103
https://warosu.org/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=gachitards
There's not any consistency in your posting times, you're literally here 24/7. Kind of sad.

>>103408020
And they succeeded despite his misgivings

>>103408071
basado

>>103408071
>They never gave up on their dream of wanting to be Japanese...how inspiring!

Well, this is a new raid topic from the antis!

>>103408101
No way

>>103408071
Well I doubt they come close to the "same hardships as us" but for the most part this

>>103408071
>not gonna miss a meal to chase retarded childhood dreams
So because I have to drive to work at 6am daily and skip breakfast, I am now the most tragic person in the world unlike everyone else who has to do it especially those earning a fraction that I do.

Improve yourself instead of shitposting here 24/7. Maybe that will get you somewhere in life

>>103408071
I had to start working at age 14 and never stopped through today. Rent is still tough and vtubers are the tiny sliver of escapism I have. While I was working two jobs to make enough to live in school they were off in Japan having the time of their lives as idols. Oh nono they had to do dance practices oh my god so bad.

>>103408071
Blud you can't be serious

Is this the only general where praising the thread's subject gets this much seething replies?
Maybe some MMO/live service game general after a bad update is as bad.

>>103408243
Well I earned roughly the same amount as them for less work put in

>>103408248
>Blud
Did you get a job yet?

>>103408071
It must have been so hard not being born Japanese idols

>>103408293
KEK

Kek the bong neet faggot is mad

Reminder that Indian pags and SEAshitters can't empathize with the struggles of women.

>>103408224
I'd say anyone who actually faced exceptional hardships understands how exceptional they are. Anyone who would identify as "most of us" and at the same time would take offense to that statement very likely didn't really go through anything worthy of note and just wants to pitybait.

>>103408071
Holy shit that was a good laugh, thanks dumbass

>>103408122
this response is gay as fuck. come up with something better, faggot.

>>103408246
You're replying to someone who lives in a third world country and has been working since I was 12. Did I win the oppression olmypics? Do you have to agree with me now? Shut up, bitch, do something worthy of admiration instead of shitposting about those who put in effort if you want anyone to care.

>>103408246
Dance practice costs money anon. A lot of money. They were thousands and thousands in debt. They still likely are now.

>>103408353
my fault g
roru
rumao even
there

>>103408071
They hate this one, chief.

>>103408362
Money they leeched off their parents who just wanted them to get real jobs instead of being obsessed with another country

>>103408293
BAUSED suck it young Japanese girls you'll NEVER be famous

>>103408071
Maybe gachischizo was right, you're all beyond help

>>103408370
forget it. just kys.

I don’t get this meltdown. I went to an Ivy League, got a tech job right after and am set for life. I find their life interesting, more interesting than the path I took and hence I am supporting them. Not everything has to be like straight out from slum dog millionaire

>>103408395
where u thng u r

>>103408319
Any hardships they faced they brought on themselves. They had a stable life and family and got obsessed with a culture on the other side of the world. They chose the retarded dream and while it is amazing it worked out, they also caused their own suffering. You still see it today when they overbooked themselves and get 3 hours of sleep and cry about it as if they aren't the ones responsible. Own up to your decisions. Sure it's a hard journey and if they want to do it then do it but stop pity baiting and bitching all the time. They aren't doing this to survive they are doing it to feel better about themselves. Most people don't have the luxury to pursue frivolous dreams like this.

>>103406776
get married

>>103408319
>never struggled in their life
>gave up their dreams
>inspired by someone else who never struggled but continued their dreams
>b-b-b-but you've never struggled

>>103408414
>You still see it today when they overbooked themselves and get 3 hours of sleep and cry about it as if they aren't the ones responsible
outdated shitpost sis

>>103408414
Yupperino that's another grvke from the grvke squad

Ruffians I think it's time to move on from this topic and start lusting over their fluffy/fuzzy full grown puppy cunnies

>>103408446
My mistake, 5 hours* on a perfect day per their latest article.

mppg

>>103408378
You're forgetting that they had people who were willing to fund their every endeavor.

>>103408515
We all give thanks to Pero

>>103408411
lies. everyone in here is rich, but where's all the donos. all you broke niggas were leeching off andy.

>>103408414
It's called pity baiting because gachitards love to give them money for absolutely nothing.

>>103408414
Most people don't have the luxury to seethe about virtual idols on a basket weaving forum because they're actually busy making ends meet. Irrelevant argument. Anyone involved in this discussion is categorically not part of "most people."

>>103408414
Based

>>103407997
Except that they were still able to take trips to Japan and aford to live on their own. They put in the grind, but their parents helped them every step of the way like any good parent should. I don't doubt they stopped funding their trips to Japan or their side projects, but it's not like their parents were going to leave them on the street to starve.

>>103408071
>this triggers the pagpag
...why?

>>103408414
This is the stupidest shit I ever read. People celebrate those who take the unconventional path despite the odds. Same reason tech founders(the successful ones) revered because they didn’t pursue a sinecure path at MAANG

>>103408672
>the odds
LOL
Nigga they just wanted to be Japanese idols, nothing else nothing less

>>103408642
I wonder where people get student loans from.

>>103408659
>why?
We may never know

>>103408696
And? I had a friend who wanted to be sushi chef and did an apprenticeship in Japan for 5 years. Good on him

>>103408672
Tech founders are revered because they have huge egos so they do a bunch of publicity and people want to copy them to be rich.

>>103408672
I'm not saying that we can't celebrate what they did but acting as if the world was out to get them when they were the ones making retarded choices is tiring. It's the same with athletes and musicians, literally everyone has a sob story because it's a marketing focused industry. I care about you because of who you are now not whatever happened before especially if the before was all in your control. Maybe if there was some enormous tragedy I feel a bit more pity and pride if they overcame that. But boohoo I wanna be Japanese idol is not a tragic backstory that's called having a dream or goal and doing it like everyone else that has a job did.

>>103408785
Not Satoshi tho

>>103408414
Vtubers and women streamers a built on pity baiting. What world do you live in? Stop falling for it and start enjoying content and turning it off the second they start the waterworks about how hard it is.

>>103408781
Good on him. Did he have parents willing to pay for everything as well as nameless people on the internet willing to do as well?

>>103408642
Saying you're allowed to move back in if you can't make rent (which never ended up happening as far I know) isn't exactly supporting their dreams. You're just moving the goalposts to "had decent parents" which I would definitely agree with, from any objective standpoint they had excellent parents and it's reflected in how much they love them.
Still, the first time they ever heard from their parents that they were proud of them was in 2019. Not exactly when they were starting. I'd say some words of encouragement would be pretty bare minimum "support" and they didn't get that.

>>103408786
Oh my good lord reverse bunny Mococo does things to my dick

Fuck you assholes FUWAMOCO are probably crying reading this. If you are out there the Ruffians all love and support you girls. Don't listen to these antis and morons that only want to put hate in the world because they're jealous of you.

>>103408839
>Did he have parents willing to pay for everything
No and neither did FWMC. So what is your point here?

You will never be a woman. Your life isn't hard. Stop crying.

>>103408800
You suggest that pity and pride are reserved for those who overcome "enormous tragedy." However, this overlooks the immense value of resilience in the face of what might seem like everyday struggles. The person who works three jobs to afford dance lessons, or practices for years while facing constant rejection, is not simply "doing their job." They are demonstrating a level of perseverance and dedication that is deeply admirable. Their story isn't tragic, but it is a testament to their strength—a quality you say you value.

Celebrating someone's journey isn't just about pity; it's about acknowledging the grit and determination required to succeed in a world that is inherently difficult and unfair, even when the path is technically a "choice." It's a way of saying, "I see the hard work you put in, even when it was difficult, and I respect you for it." This respect for the process, rather than just the outcome, is a more holistic and compassionate way to view a person's life and accomplishments.

>>103408877
>FUWAMOCO are probably crying reading this
That's hot

>he broke out gpt again
lmaoroflkek

The blud poster is just an insecure NEET jealous of their life?

>>103408800
You do know they were literally bullied in school retard.

>>103408937
He's our best poster

I missed Geppetto

>>103408944
OH NOES

>>103408937
Sure seems like it lol

>>103408857
They had support in the form of being a safety net for them. If you watched your kid constantly trying something into their 30's with it never taking off, but were still willing to be there to catch them if they hit rock bottom, I'm pretty sure that's more than a majority of people would get in the first world. It worked out for them and that's great, but if it didn't they'd still be in Canada and their parents would encourage them to move on or do it as a hobby, which I'm guessing was their usual response. You're acting like life is a movie.

>>103408944
He got bullied in school so he thought it's normal.

>>103408937
You love me

>>103408944
And? Every vtuber fan was bullied.

>>103408857
NTA but what was there actually to be proud of besides empty praise.

>>103408944
So fucking what, that's on them for being weird ass weebs

>>103408968
Oh, I forgot to add that at least Mamapuppy was supportive of their interests for a long time and their parents helped pay for things early on as encouragement. Again, once you hit your mid 20's, you better be planning something real if you keep dropping the ball.

It's funny that people reduce their journey to "wanted to be japanese" without realizing that this just makes the odds even more insurmountable. YWNBJ and all that.
You're just making them seem even more amazing if you're saying they did just that.

>>103408800
If they didn’t want to be Japanese idols, they wouldn’t have gotten into hololive so I don’t know why you are whining here.

>>103408903
BAUSED

Holy nuke

>>103408968
>I'm pretty sure that's more than a majority of people would get in the first world
>tfw that was the bare minimum that parent would do in 3rd world country
what a nice first world country you've built there mang

>>103408898
No I'm just sick of people pretending that they went through incredible hardship and that justifies anything they do.

>>103409020
2019 is two years after they performed at an event that is still an unchecked goal in their current Hololive goal list. I'd say that warrants a parent praising you, at least. Maybe not the entire uncaring world, but a parent? Gotta be a pretty strict one to not feel any pride in that.

>>103409092
When will you niggas be able to identify Geppetto

>>103409019
KEK

And this is why you never interact with vtubing or hololive culture outside of streams and concerts when they are live. The more you spend talking about it and participate in fan discussions the more depressing it gets. Stop wasting your time and become a YT only chad.

>>103409019
I wasn't

>>103408968
Most parents would've cut them out long ago. And it's not like they have a deadbeat parent that THEY have to support unlike some others we know.

>>103409092
>and that justifies anything they do.
????

>>103409080
Looking at the archive lmao he was samefagging hard as fuck.

>>103409144
You are right now.

>>103408987
They're just like me... my story was so tragic too... but I persevered!

>>103409166
Holy shit it's my first time

I love nukes...

Is the blud poster a schizo? He went from posting about other holos to shitting on gachis?

>>103409191
And now you understand why they somehow have some of the most schizo fanbase, alongside people like Kiara.

>>103409216
>Is the blud poster a schizo?
Anon c'mon why are you even asking this

>>103409191
I didn't
Currently posting from Makai Network™ right now

>>103409216
Probably, but what we do know he is a faggot and possibly a tranny with how much he complains like a women.

>>103409147
Yeah I had to support my alcoholic mom since I was a teenager and she told me on numerous occasions that she hates me but I don't consider that the baseline, I'm the one who got unlucky. They still did it through their own efforts, not having parents who despise them isn't a privilege, it's the bare minimum.

>>103409199
Bend over wuffian. Someone needs to get bullied.

i'll bully all you bitches. meet up in the pit at AFO.

>>103409216
I checked the other day and he posts on /lig/.

>>103409275
But their parents were never even close to that and DID support them for a while. At some point when your kid is hitting their mid 20's, you gotta ask them what they're doing with their life.

>>103409309
Those tickets are a thousand dollars I can't afford that

>>103409296
Fuwawa please you don't have to do this

>>103409332
Do you have a link to the archive?

Shiori's doing even more collabs with everyone but FUWAMOCO. Why do they hate her so much and why do they insist on lying about wanting to collab with her? No Ruffian likes her anyways so drop the act. They'd get more SC if they came out and said they don't associate with men or men lovers.

>>103409275
You gave up on your dreams. They didn't.

>>103409387
AZKi and Fubuki are homo collabers

>>103409216
>Is the blud poster a schizo?
holy slowpoke

>>103409427
NTA but most people don't have the luxury or choice of continuing to chase an impossible dream. They had the support structure to do it and pathetic men willing to send them money to ensure they never could fail.

>>103409371
https://warosu.org/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=blud
I just looked up blud.

>>103409332
I ain’t ever posted there, I’m here 24/7. it was probably one of my admirers copying my lingo

>>103409427
I agree, not sure why you're bringing that up. I greatly admire them and that's why I support them.

>>103409427
Or, you know, life isn't movie for 99.99% of people which is exactly why they say thanks so much, because they would have been absolute poverty losers in the NWP if they didn't get the job at Holo.
Now they've got plenty of money, so if you don't have a lot and feel bad about not supporting when they turn on the pity baiting, just turn off the stream and come back when they're playing games or posting a 'live' recording.

afternoon Moco-chan

>>103409454
Yeah I agree with that. At the end of the day, they're also women and from my experience if a girl tells you their life is horrible you agree that their life is horrible. It doesn't matter in this case though because they don't beg for sympathy.

who post a tweet at fucking 3AM in the morning
>HOO BOY 3AM

>>103409558
Except when they cancel streams, cut down on streams, talk about their merch, etc
Only when money is on the line!

>>103409521
Kiwawa... no...

>>103409590
I am not a streamfag so those doesn’t affect me lol

>>103409590
do you not know what sympathy means

>>103409590
Well they don't pity bait about their past. They only try to explain how hard they're working for our sakes now.

>>103409650
He is a sociopath so probably not

>>103409387
I don't really care much. I like Shiori as part of Advent but I don't think there's that much demand for that particular 1 on 1 pairing outside of people wanting it to check the box.
They work better as a group, any 1 on 1 collab with Shiori would be better with full Advent.
Hell, even Diamond Dogs are kind of hit or miss. The karaoke collab was amazing but the horror game was kind of boring. People like the idea of the solo collab more than they'll actually like the stream.

>>103409701
I want more soundhound. That is the only pairing I care about

>>103409502
>absolute poverty losers
Most women can get married anon. Even if you're a hag unable to have children.

>>103409650
I'm just taking the piss at this point.

>>103409521
They were made for each other

>>103409690
>they don't pity bait about their past
>It's the focus of their second original song MV

>>103409798
Shhhh!

>>103409798
do you know what pity bait means

>pitybaiting their past
They have never went beyond saying "it was hard in the cell"

>>103409798
?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rzCDwmSvzQ

Retards, this is what pity bait looks like
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Bgde3wglIJ4

>>103409856
>black screen thumbnail
AAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Mint suffered more than any of you

>>103409891
I eat mint for breakfast

>>103409835
Which could also just be kayfabe.

>>103409903
I assume she tastes like ass

>>103409798
watame literally made a song called my song

>>103409798
What part of that is pity baiting about their past? It shows them looking up to Momoi and then getting to do the same thing. It doesn't even imply the journey was hard.
Doesn't even show sleepless nights spent working or anything, it shows them having upbeat mornings where they play janken to decide who gets to eat the last snack every day.
Their time in the cell is shown as them just playing games and enjoying idol concerts. If you base your entire knowledge of their past on that MV they were born rich and never had to work.
If anything the ones depicted as having rough lives so far were the ruffians abandoned on the streets inside a cardboard box.

>>103410002
we lived a ruff lives

Reminder that they applied for Hololive many times and didn't get in

>>103410038
JP btw

>>103410002
>mococo wins janken
>she eats chikuwa
>mococo loses janken
>she still gets the chikuwa
What did they mean by this?

>>103409999
Kojima should make a game called My Game.

>>103410046
I always knew mint was a whore

They stayed up to listen to sobbing birthday karaoke

>>103410049
IRyS and Kiara applied for JP too

>>103410046
This is disturbing

>>103410002
it's ruff being a ruffian

>>103410056
Little sisters always win...

>>103410093
Uh well duh?

>>103410002
>>103410026
Fuwawa homed in on the wuffians weal quick

>>103410002
They're too scared about yabs to officially mention their past.

it’s nice that they don’t have to worry about paying for donuts anymore.

>>103410028
Patra should give them her used panties

>>103410132
Let’s thank all the paypuppies

>>103410056
Fuwawa sacrificed everything for Moco-chan...

>>103410046
How is she so good at it?

>they actually joined her Twitter space
no favortism though

>>103410049
EN literally didn't have a gen open for them

Girls, it’s 3 a.m

>>103404139
They routinely stay up until 4am stalking fans

>>103410387
Only their paypuppies

Fuwawa is also waiting for some cultured doujinshi to be released soon.

They don't need my money now. They needed it before and I gave it to them. I'll just coast on the backs of all the supershitters who spam them with cash to get their attention. Thanks for the free ride suckers!

They’ve probably spent enough on donuts to build a house.

Where is Andy's spreadsheet for fuwamoco? Is he meeting up with mane chan in person this time at c106?

>>103410578
be patient, he'll get it done. yes.

>>103410446
Sadly I don't think there's any porn of them for this comiket. They still have a bunch of stuff coming out but no lewds.

>>103410652
They're too pure to be lewded

>>103410479
Based. After they had their first anniversary it was clear they no longer needed money from ruffians with all the sponsors. Your money is best spent on the new debuts or indies because after a year ish in holo your money is a drop in a bucket to the girls.

>>103410479
>>103410703
Wrong. Fuwawa is happy every time I send her a superchat and she loves me.

>>103410792
>he actually believes this
uh oh

FUWAMOCO actually joined the karaoke... wtf shouldn't they be in bed?

>>103410792
I'm afraid to SC them

>>103410886
liar. they are joining sex with me instead.

Which doujinshi you prefer most is one of many questions I've wanted to ask for a long time, but know you probably can't answer, FUWAMOCO 草… You're always very kind and open-minded about encouraging artists to make what they love, but I want to know what you love most

>>103410792
I didn't say she wasn't happy about you handing her money. I just won't because they don't actually need it.

Hello ruffians!
Thanks to your encouragement I started with my Nihongo learning journey!
Day 735: Today I've done my anki and immersion reps. For anki I've learned 5 new cards. For immersion I've watched three episode of an anime.
FUWAMOCO love!
BAU BAU!

>>103410703
>Your money is best spent on the new debuts or indies
Not my oshis, not my problem

>>103410942
How does he keep getting more and more creepy? yeeeeesh

>>103410942
Definitely not the ones that insult Hololive and their senpai.

>>103410942
I don't get it. How can he hate all their senpai and staff for allegedly forcing them to do sexual stuff then at the same time creepily ask them for what their most personal sexual fetishes are? Is it so he can add it to his sex dungeon?

I just... to fuwawa reading my sc for her solo fluffy stream...

>>103411026
Gj

>>103411276
But doesn't Fuwawa always read the SC's?

>>103411315
But Mococo always kills the mood and cockblocks normally. She was able to go all out this time and holy fluff it made me feel good.

Fuwawa is a dangerous sex criminal and needs to be locked up.

If I don't get waped by fuwawa in new york I'm going to have to have a femruffian or one of you do it instead.

I hate my life without them.

>>103411755
>Fuwawa has a wuffian tracker
Alright she's getting too powerful