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Anonymous No.103432645 >>103432684 >>103432699 >>103433022 >>103433060 >>103433111 >>103433281 >>103433486 >>103433629 >>103433735 >>103434131 >>103434194 >>103435237 >>103436657 >>103436818 >>103438790 >>103438863 >>103443966 >>103444519 >>103445004 >>103446587 >>103446622 >>103446754 >>103448841 >>103449509 >>103455720 >>103461867
Why do these corpo vtubers never admitted to abuse or getting mistreated during employment?
Anonymous No.103432672 >>103433561 >>103433794 >>103448270 >>103448571 >>103448820
becauase they are under a NDA

are you dumb
Anonymous No.103432684
>>103432645 (OP)
They do and it's OK actually
Anonymous No.103432699
>>103432645 (OP)
Because they're idiots who signed NDAs and there's a whole industry built around buying bankrupt companies to enforce their NDAs on people
Anonymous No.103432726
Why doesn't OP ever admit to not knowing English?
Anonymous No.103432832 >>103438445 >>103448687
If only Mousey and the management had stopped being greedy for a moment and hadn’t touched the money that was meant for charity, none of this would have happened.
Anonymous No.103432894
God I hate blatant clickbait thumbnails.
Anonymous No.103432950
because now is the time to farm pity
Anonymous No.103433012 >>103433341 >>103448716
well

she can always

just join Hololive, you know?
Anonymous No.103433022 >>103433341
>>103432645 (OP)
She's a lying cunt and this is to farm sympathy.
Anonymous No.103433060
>>103432645 (OP)
NDA , and they can be sued for defamation.
Anonymous No.103433111
>>103432645 (OP)
I didn't know people giving you money was so traumatic
Anonymous No.103433281
>>103432645 (OP)
NDAs and the threat of a defamation lawsuit.
I know this one doesn't apply to Vshojo, but especially for Japanese corpos, they can sue for defamation AND win the lawsuit even if what they call defamation is entirely true.
Anonymous No.103433341 >>103448796
>>103433012
>>103433022
Duality of the unicorn
Anonymous No.103433486
>>103432645 (OP)
mix of nda and thinking its what everyone goes through instead of asking others for help. like the money thing since none of them talked about it they had no idea they all haven't been getting paid and thought it was just them.
to the /here/ tubers, fucking talk to people if you don't feel something is right. nda does not block you from talking about illegal stuff.
also if you are going to sign anything. Get a lawyer, not a fucking chat bot. Not a 'friend' who knows law. A lawyer to look over what you are about to sign. It sounds scary but its better then a corpo effectively owning you and anything you are building up and giving you nothing.
Anonymous No.103433561 >>103461930
>>103432672
>becauase they are under a NDA
Ah, yes, an NDA. The one way to get away with illegal things.
You wanna know how the rest of us know your mother drank while she was pregnant with you, outside of the physically retardation?
Anonymous No.103433629
>>103432645 (OP)
>I cried every day
>but also I had a say in running the whole thing next to the staff and gunrun
>oh and in every other video before this one I talk about how they’re the greatest thing to ever grace this earth
women.
Anonymous No.103433667 >>103433759
come to hololive, IronMouse

we could even have a spanish branch just for you
Anonymous No.103433735
>>103432645 (OP)
They’re just using the faceless company as a scapegoat. They act like a victim as a way to hide the fact that some of them are actually complicit.
Anonymous No.103433759 >>103446418
>>103433667
Oh yeah, she'd love to give up on one of the biggest VTuber IPs and join a company where she can't go to the mandatory in-person meetings.
Anonymous No.103433794 >>103434669 >>103435288 >>103435778 >>103436019 >>103436585 >>103436665 >>103444489 >>103445375 >>103446587 >>103458860 >>103466723
>>103432672
Do I have to post the bajillion clips where her and kson were basically fellating gunrun and/or vshojo management with endless praise?
Some of which happened not even that long ago?
How do you explain this? Gunrun holding them at gunpoint?
Anonymous No.103434131 >>103434545 >>103434979
>>103432645 (OP)
It's primarily this:
>OMG! It's terrible to work here!
>Bad enough that it's not worth the money?
>Well, no.
Only time anyone actually quits is when the money stops. So, you know, there you go.
Anonymous No.103434194 >>103434368 >>103443501 >>103455331 >>103455648
>>103432645 (OP)
Why hasn't a single Holo graduate spilled these beans?
Anonymous No.103434368
>>103434194
Why would they?
Anonymous No.103434545 >>103434669 >>103436019
>>103434131
Anonymous No.103434669
>>103433794
>>103434545
KEK
Anonymous No.103434979
>>103434131
>OMG! It's terrible to work here!
>Bad enough that it's not worth the money?
>Well, no.
/thread
Anonymous No.103435237
>>103432645 (OP)
Because they needed to project the image of a happy wholesome chungus company while they were there, but once the company imploded they can cash in on the pitybaiting
Anonymous No.103435288 >>103436585 >>103437421 >>103438123
>>103433794
Kson blocked someone for pointing out how she was essentially lying to her fans for years and how if anyone asked her a month ago she would've been singing vshojo's praises about how great it is lmao.
Anonymous No.103435778 >>103437329
>>103433794
Yeah, please post the most recent one.
Anonymous No.103436019
>>103433794
>>103434545
LMAO
Anonymous No.103436585 >>103436819 >>103448882
>>103433794
neck yourself windy
>>103435288
neck yourself mizutranni
Anonymous No.103436657
>>103432645 (OP)
>they gave me 20 models bohoo I'm so sad
Anonymous No.103436665 >>103449052
>>103433794
same reason why the raped didnt bring up bill cosby for like 30 years
Anonymous No.103436753
>I cried every day
>but also I didn't know anything was going on
>but also I was victimized every day!
>that didn't stop me from pushing my """friends""" to join the agency
Something smells smelly.
Anonymous No.103436818 >>103437002
>>103432645 (OP)
>I cried everyday
I do not believe this for a second, she kept praising vshojo before the drama happened. She's lying.
Anonymous No.103436819 >>103437081
>>103436585
>VPoachjo drone seething
Anonymous No.103437002
>>103436818
she was crying everyday *for the last week sniff sniff but Vshojo was the best group ever just a month ago
Anonymous No.103437081 >>103437147 >>103438781
>>103436819
>TVA doxxgroid nijifaggot crossdresser seething
Anonymous No.103437147
>>103437081

It's every boy's dream to be a little girl

Then you grow up, and your bone structure is already set in stone as a grown ass man
Anonymous No.103437329 >>103437421
>>103435778
Hm I wonder why this was ignored?
Maybe because nobody really praised the company in a long time and shills are just making shit up to anti vtubers outside of their bubble as usual?
Anonymous No.103437421 >>103445343
>>103437329
the whole "they were praising vshojo just up until last month" thing is word-for-word what proctor and mizutranni and their phasefag goons were pushing on twitter
they're in this thread seething because kson blocked them >>103435288
Anonymous No.103438123 >>103445343
>>103435288
She blocked you because your reading comprehension is like that of a 5 year old
Anonymous No.103438445
>>103432832
it would have happened earlier, since they'd run out of funds quicker, that's all.
Anonymous No.103438660 >>103438991 >>103442977
excluding 2024 hires because they have not been around long enough to see the flaws in the company and were likely misled as to what is 'normal' and 'acceptable' behavior by their compliant senpai
>long term hiatus, unclear stance
hime, froot, haruka
>left when talents werent getting paid on time
nazuna, vei, nyanners, silvervale
>left or applied to leave when talents were getting paid years+ late, artists and contractors also werent getting paid
matara, geega, zen, kuro, kson
>fully intended to stay before criminal activity was discovered, such as potential that misappropriated charity money may have been spent to pay for vshojo branch activities such as concerts and debut videos and MVs, an action which even individual talents and staff would be criminally liable for if they remained in the company and accepted payment while aware of the charity scam
mel, mouse, henya, michi
Anonymous No.103438781
>>103437081
Need more buzzwords next time?
Anonymous No.103438790 >>103442082
>>103432645 (OP)
>I don’t want to lose my job prematurely
probably something like that
Anonymous No.103438863
>>103432645 (OP)
Grifter
Anonymous No.103438991 >>103446539
>>103438660
They didn't know about each others finances retard. Geega confirmed that they had little idea and that wasn't the reason they left and that's still true for the first leavers too, Vei literally also said that she would have continued with Vshojo if they didn't try to take extra money from her mythic sponsors.
Vshojo was running on accumulated good will, empty promises and lies, that's all, the ones you mentioned at the end also lost the most money, they didn't benefit from the system at all.
Anonymous No.103442082
>>103438790
But they weren't even getting paid
Anonymous No.103442977 >>103446668
>>103438660
Matara got fired. She shouldn't be considered to have "left"
Anonymous No.103443501 >>103448750
>>103434194
Rushia did. Cover has strong NDAs too
Anonymous No.103443966 >>103444054
>>103432645 (OP)
when it comes to mouse, it's because she was repeatedly told by the execs if she leaves then the company goes under, and she didn't want to do that to all of the good staff and other talents. it's the exact same thing that anycolor did to mika/michi, told her that nijiID relied on her to get her to stay, and it works because they love their coworkers/friends. if she leaves or says anything bad then everybody loses their jobs, and because none of these bitches talked to each other they didn't know that they'd all been unpaid for 8+ months so it wouldn't have mattered anyway
Anonymous No.103444054 >>103444148
>>103443966
Of note is that this wasn't their primary revenue source that was being delayed, so they weren't in a rush to get their money. They were also paid quarterly, so delaying by like a month doesn't SEEM like a big problem. That's how the agency got away with stalling so long. The charity money was where they crossed a line for the talents
Anonymous No.103444148 >>103445090
>>103444054
exactly. although I think something that would have gotten them all to leave earlier would have been if the artists who weren't paid had spoken up en masse, everyone who had been contracted including myself was giving the company the benefit of the doubt and weren't nagging the managers or talents about it. vsj talents all greatly respect artists and wouldn't put up with them not being paid, just like if they'd known each other were shorted they'd have stopped sooner
Anonymous No.103444489
>>103433794
CONS

NONE
Anonymous No.103444519
>>103432645 (OP)
Vtubers corpos have imported the retarded jp idol industry mentality where they trick employees into thinking they are a "family" and it's ok to be exploited and you should be grateful for everything.
Anonymous No.103445004 >>103445379
>>103432645 (OP)
>just stop getting abused forehead
Anonymous No.103445090
>>103444148
who are you?
Anonymous No.103445343 >>103445377 >>103445536
>>103437421
>>103438123
Cope and seethe vshojodrone. They all lied and now they want to act like they're innocent victims when they were deceiving people for years.
Anonymous No.103445375
>>103433794
gunrun's reputation in the streaming industry was impeccable until recently.
Anonymous No.103445377
>>103445343
dilate, mizutranni
Anonymous No.103445379 >>103445564
>>103445004
Why'd they suddenly become aware that they were abused the second IronMouse said something
Anonymous No.103445536
>>103445343
I'm still waiting for one of the bajillion clips you promised
Anonymous No.103445564
>>103445379
I tried to look but I couldn't find any
Anonymous No.103446418 >>103448842
>>103433759
Technically she doesn't need to give up her IP, suisei joined hololive with her IP and even tho it started weird she now is full-on a part of hololive and she owns her IP, also she can probably get a exception for the in person meetings.
Honestly if I was yagoo I would do almost anything to get the biggest indie vtuber in hololive especially with all the models and songs that she has and don't forget how well liked she is by everybody
Anonymous No.103446539 >>103446722
>>103438991
>Geega didn't know so-
Yeah because the newblood fart huffer would have been in the know.
Anonymous No.103446587 >>103446722
>>103433794
>>103432645 (OP)
At least half of these vshojo girls were complicit and knew for many months if not years. They benefited from it and/or didn't warn anyone, nor try to change a thing.
But of course with vshojo imploding and everyone blaming all of it on Gunrun alone they all get out of it without any blame at all and can wash themselves clean of them being complicit for a long time.

Pretty scummy if you ask me. Not to mention all the poaching attempts and trying to reason with other vtuber friends you made to come join too. Especially girls like IM/Melody/kson are definitely guilty.
Anonymous No.103446622
>>103432645 (OP)
pressure
put a clip of clip of clip of herself react sleeping to connor
Anonymous No.103446668
>>103442977
With current information the strongest rrat is that she got fired for raising hell about mint not getting paid for the summer podcast merch.
Anonymous No.103446722
>>103446539
Geega was in Vshojo for 2 years, retard.

>>103446587
That's retarded anon, especially Ironmouse lost more money than anybody else so explain to me how they benefited from Vshojo being scummy? All of this happened in the last 8 months btw, before that Vshojo still paid their talents so the talents didn't lie.
Anonymous No.103446754
>>103432645 (OP)
Same reason why you put up with your boss at work anon
Anonymous No.103448270
>>103432672
why are people so legally retarded, an NDA does not stop you from mentioning your employer NOT PAYING YOU FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD it's not like some magic fuckin spell that means you cant speak ever
Anonymous No.103448467 >>103458587
She was like a giga millionaire, right? I could understand being enraged for some corpo asshole stealing millions from you but she and her family wasnt near being close to homelessness or starving from garnish wages. Why cry? You are vastly in control of your entire life with that fuck you money, use it for fucksakes.
Anonymous No.103448571
>>103432672
Mouse definitely could have used her power to fight for something better though, especially when Silver and Vei left. As it is she just seemed somewhat complicit in hindsight by onboarding future talents to what became like a rugpull scam.
Anonymous No.103448687
>>103432832
They would continue to bleed members, kson was about to leave them before all the charity fraud was unveiled.
Anonymous No.103448716
>>103433012
Anon, have ever seen an idol in a wheelchair?
Anonymous No.103448750 >>103449136 >>103450710 >>103452320
>>103443501
What did Rushia say?
Anonymous No.103448796
>>103433341
>anyone who disagrees with me is a unicorn
hi proctor, feet first!
Anonymous No.103448820 >>103448970
>>103432672
>becauase they are under a NDA
sure you cuck

an NDA is a just a contract between 2 parties, not a law, it does not legally protect the parties from braking the law in any way
in this case the talents were part of it as they helped up to cover up multiple illegal actions, and they share full responsibility, covering up a crime is still a crime, even if it happens to you or people or people you know
still, the talents like iron lung want to hide their responsibility, so there will be no reports, just a bankruptcy
Anonymous No.103448841
>>103432645 (OP)
>It was this bad
>But still leaves alll her financials blindly with Gunrun
Something doesn't add up here
Anonymous No.103448842
>>103446418
>Honestly if I was yagoo I would do almost anything to get the biggest indie vtuber in hololive
he tried but CookieSwirlC doesn't need holo nor would she ever stream
Anonymous No.103448882
>>103436585
she'll never fuck you lil bro
Anonymous No.103448970 >>103449110 >>103449187
>>103448820
The talents didn't cover up a crime you retard. The responsibility with the charity money getting stolen lies squarely with Gunrun promising to transfer the funds. Once the talents found out that the company was effectively bankrupt and the money was nowhere to be found we got the series of ooof posting and one week later the company is dead, as it should be.
Anonymous No.103449052
>>103436665
so it never happened?
bill cosby conviction was overturned and the court found that his rights were violated and that his accusers were allowed to commit perjury with no consequences
most of the whores who accused him literally went at night with him to his apartment, then claimed that after partying, drinking and smoking weed they were totally drugged since they planned to sleep on the floor not in the bed with him
to top it off one of his main accusers was his long time partner, but he still had to totally drug her to keep sleeping with him, since she would totally not do it otherwise
Anonymous No.103449110 >>103449151
>>103448970
But mouse herself said she was working things out with Vshojo behind the scenes for months?
Anonymous No.103449136
>>103448750
nothing of value
Anonymous No.103449151
>>103449110
You're being so vague that you have to give me a timestamp of her saying that.
Anonymous No.103449187 >>103449460
>>103448970
no, the responsibility is 100% on ironmouse, she collected the money, she gave it to gunrun not to the charity, she had the legal obligation to make sure it goes where it needs to, not to mention she took half which she could have used to pay off her financial obligations
ok, but lets say you are right, you still have the most important part
>Once the talents found out that the company was effectively bankrupt and the money was nowhere to be found we got the series of ooof posting and one week later the company is dead, as it should be.
they ignored months of people not being paid, thats a crime, the law is crystal clear, signing contract with intent of breaking them is fraud
we know from all of them that they knew since 2023 that talents arent being paid and that gunruns is cooking his books by not reporting his profits and faking expenses, instead of reporting it to proper authorities they helped to cover it up

i know for you kids it seems like nothing since you never had few hundred thousand $, yet alone had such sums stolen from you, but we are talking about fraud and theft of millions of $ here
Anonymous No.103449460 >>103449798
>>103449187
>no, the responsibility is 100% on ironmouse, she collected the money, she gave it to gunrun not to the charity
Wrong, she didn't gain anything from it and she acted in good faith so she's 100% not legally liable for it.

>they ignored months of people not being paid, that's a crime, the law is crystal clear, signing contract with intent of breaking them is fraud
They were only aware of their own payments and them getting delayed isn't really that special in the industry; we have a specific example of Kson saying it took Hololive a year to pay her, you have to keep in mind they are not regular employees they're contractors that were strung along with the promise that the money WOULD arrive. They had no awareness of the definite finances of the company and once again, it was Gunrun's responsibility to not fool the talents and declare bankruptcy before a situation like this could occur.
Anonymous No.103449509
>>103432645 (OP)
This is bullshit there is no way she was totally oblivious to what was happening. She just wants sympathy and drama tourists are easy marks.
Anonymous No.103449798 >>103450278 >>103450294
>>103449460
>Wrong, she didn't gain anything from it and she acted in good faith so she's 100% not legally liable for it.
Fuck you on about? She took half of it, she gave other half to gunrun so he can "totally send it to the charity", if half goes missing, the other half needs to be used to cover the financial liabilities she made, you cant just ignore your financial liabilities and still claim the revenue for yourself, fuck you on. If this was the case why would any business ever pay what they owe? They can just forfeit their debts and cash all profits every time.

>They were only aware of their own payments and them getting delayed isn't really that special in the industry;
You gotta be trolling at this point.
The fact others commit crimes dosnt mean you can do it too. Unless the money owed is written down as companys debt then its a fucking crime. You either get paid or not, there is no "delays" unless the terms of contracts get modified to take such things into account. Even being 1 day late is already a breach of the contract, and with signing it with intent of never paying in first place its fraud and a serious crimes for which people do decades in jail.
>we have a specific example of Kson saying it took Hololive a year to pay her
The same dumb twat who ignored Vshojo crimes? Go figure, she has long history of doing this. May shock you, but what hololive did is also ... illegal. Another company that has cultist sucking its dick.

>They had no awareness of the definite finances of the company and once again,
Which is a lie. How many of them now came out and said they knew since 2023? And has director information from other talents about not being paid as well as blackmail by members of the company?

> it was Gunrun's responsibility to not fool the talents and declare bankruptcy before a situation like this could occur.
Two wrongs dont make a right you tard, more than one person can be involved.
Everybody is now trying to dodge financial and legal accountability, dodging responsibility left and right, while the talents lie to, gaslight and manipulate their audience to repaint themselves as victims.
In reality they are all perpetrators, they were fucking over each others hoping the other girl will be the one to lose more. Just weighting the cons vs pros as long as it was in their favor. Kson is best example of this.
Anonymous No.103450202 >>103450257
could you imagine lying and withholding information from the people who financially support your business?
Anonymous No.103450257
>>103450202
vtubing is built on deception
Anonymous No.103450278 >>103450946 >>103451247
>>103449798
She didn't take half of the charity funds, you moron. That money was never intended for charity, it was her own you disingenuous retard. She made it very clear she would donate half of her subs so Vshojo taking the money without using it for the reason they received it makes it clear where the responsibilities lie.

You clearly don't know shit if you think that payment towards contractors don't have wriggle room.
Why do you larp as a lawyer on 4chan? Did you get inspired by Apek?

>Which is a lie. How many of them now came out and said they knew since 2023? And has director information from other talents about not being paid as well as blackmail by members of the company?
None of them said that they were aware of other talents debts or that the company was bankrupt. Why lie?

>Two wrongs dont make a right you tard, more than one person can be involved.
Everybody is now trying to dodge financial and legal accountability, dodging responsibility left and right, while the talents lie to, gaslight and manipulate their audience to repaint themselves as victims.
In reality they are all perpetrators, they were fucking over each others hoping the other girl will be the one to lose more. Just weighting the cons vs pros as long as it was in their favor. Kson is best example of this.
Except they're trying to do right to their fans as best as they can in this situation, telling their fans to do chargebacks where it's possible and trying to acquire a list of merch so they could fulfill it if possible + compensating artists that were not paid by Vshojo. Once again, those talents are not responsible for the company lying to everyone, making promises they couldn't keep and not announcing bankruptcy. In reality Kson and Ironmouse were some of the biggest victims of the situation, which was completely out of their control.
Anonymous No.103450294
>>103449798
retard chimp moment
Anonymous No.103450710
>>103448750
that aqua bullied her and also that everyone is a bitch and she wants them all to suffer
Anonymous No.103450946 >>103451434
>>103450278
>That money was never intended for charity, it was her own you disingenuous retard.
Its not her money you twat. The profits she makes come after costs and taxes, until then its a pool thats to be used to cover the financial promises she made. Shes not a fucking 12 year old lemon juice seller, shes an adult working at a company organizing a charity event, and everything has to check out financially and legally. Charity scams are ... a crime, go figure.
The fact she got her shitty parent company to manage the money is on her, she organized the event, she gathered the funds, she took the half, she lost the other half.

>Why do you larp as a lawyer on 4chan? Did you get inspired by Apek?
Where did i say im a lawyer you strawmanning cunt? I did work in finances though, not like it matters, even a child would know something isnt right here. But not eceleb worshipers, nope, for them their religious idols cant do no wrong. Poor iron lung and kson, crying into their money piles.

>None of them said that they were aware of other talents debts or that the company was bankrupt. Why lie?
Why are you lying? I watched Kson, Silvervale and one more of those vshojo chick discuss clear examples of fraud, breach of contract, theft, blackmail and multiple other clearly illegal practices going as far back as 2023. Silvervale especially didnt hide how other talents knew and just didnt care since it didnt affect them. Grifting queen Ironmouse herself said she knew about the charity situation.

>Except they're trying to do right to their fans as best as they can in this situation,
Cool, when they are giving the money back?

>In reality Kson and Ironmouse were some of the biggest victims of the situation, which was completely out of their control.
Ah yes, Ironmouse, the victim of all the money she made, despite 50% of the marketing being spent of her lying ass. Kson is a victim of her own refusal to ever accept that she is wrong about anything. Would burn all her money and still glaze Vshojo if Ironmouse didnt decide its time to cash out and dump the company.
Anonymous No.103451247 >>103451683
>>103450278
>she would donate half of her subs so Vshojo taking the money without using it for the reason they received it
Why did the money go to vshojo in the first place? What's the logic there? Anyway, she was obliged to pay that to the charity, not to her company, it was 100% on her to see it through.
>None of them said that they were aware of other talents debts or that the company was bankrupt
Please anon. Did each one of them think that the company HAS the money and is paying everyone else but them for some reason? And nobody discussed the issue with each other either? It's a ridiculous idea,
Anonymous No.103451434 >>103453756
>>103450946
You're re so fucking retarded it's unbelievable. She didn't lose half of the charity money, she lost ALL because Vshojo STOLE it. The other half wasn't meant for charity in the first place and Vshojo likely stole that part too.
She was owed "a house worth of money".

>Where did i say im a lawyer you strawmanning cunt?
Because you're larping as if you know the law and their contracts you stupid cunt when you don't even know the difference between a contractor and an employee.

>I watched Kson, Silvervale and one more of those vshojo chick discuss clear examples of fraud, breach of contract, theft, blackmail and multiple other clearly illegal practices going as far back as 2023.
>Silvervale especially didnt hide how other talents knew and just didnt care since it didnt affect them. Grifting queen Ironmouse herself said she knew about the charity situation.
Ok post a clip of them saying that the other talents knew about them not getting paid. You can't because it doesn't exist and you made that shit up.


>Cool, when they are giving the money back?
The money never went into their pockets you retard.

>Ah yes, Ironmouse, the victim of all the money she made, despite 50% of the marketing being spent of her lying ass. Kson is a victim of her own refusal to ever accept that she is wrong about anything. Would burn all her money and still glaze Vshojo if Ironmouse didnt decide its time to cash out and dump the company.
Ironmouse lost a huge amount of money and 50% of the marketing went to...nowhere because Vshojo barely had any marketing because MTD was a lazy cokehead. She's going to promote herself better as indie, that's for sure.
Kson was already planning to leave the company and she didn't glaze the company for a long time. That's literally made up by retards like you, obviously with 0 proof as always. You're 100% one of those retarded TVA chimps aren't you? Don't even reply to me anymore unless you add proof of your claims next time.
Anonymous No.103451683 >>103453887
>>103451247
Here's an AI answer for your low effort post:

It’s completely legitimate — and pretty common — for Ironmouse to have routed the charity money through VShojo instead of paying it directly herself, especially for privacy, logistics, and tax reasons.

Why going through VShojo makes sense
Privacy

Donating directly in her own name could reveal personal information (real name, location, financial details).

Going through VShojo let the donation come from a corporate account, protecting her identity.

Tax handling

If she received the subathon money personally, it would count as her income — she’d have to pay taxes on it before donating.

By letting VShojo receive the funds and donate them directly, she avoided that extra tax burden (the charity gets 100% instead of what’s left after taxes).

Public presentation

Agencies often make large donations on behalf of their talents as a PR move (“VShojo & Ironmouse donate X to [charity]”), which also keeps the charity dealings clean and official.

Logistics

Twitch sub revenue doesn’t arrive instantly — VShojo was already handling payouts, so funneling it through them was administratively easier.

Legal perspective
If she instructed VShojo to donate the money, and they agreed to do it, she fulfilled her part.

If VShojo then failed to send it, the liability is on VShojo, not her.

As long as she didn’t knowingly lie to donors (“I already sent it” when she hadn’t), she’s legally in the clear.

So in short:
She had no obligation to personally make the payment — and using VShojo as an intermediary was both legitimate and smart. The problem only starts if the intermediary pockets the funds.
Anonymous No.103452320
>>103448750
Rushia is a complete nutjob and even the dramatubers dropped her story after they figured that out. All you need to look is R's activities after being fired. It would have been extremely easy for her to throw shade if there was anything egregious happening behind the scenes.
Anonymous No.103453756 >>103453830 >>103454144
>>103451434
>speculation and claims someone who always lies
Oh fuck off with your "it came to me in a dream" shit, when she shows her financials i will believe it
We know for a fact money is missing, money she collected, thats all that matters

>Because you're larping as if you know the law and their contracts you stupid cunt when you don't even know the difference between a contractor and an employee.
I signed more than my share at work, including NDAs. And i dont care what kind of contract or terms of employment they signed, bottom line they werent paid, they knew of people who werent paid and did nothing about it. More, they lied about the company at every turn shilling how great it is, people got scammed with a fake charity campaing and again, all i care about is that money is missing.

>Ok post a clip of them saying that the other talents knew about them not getting paid. You can't because it doesn't exist and you made that shit up.
Yep, everybody just hallucinated it at once, ignore the endless twitter posts and streams talking about it. You expect me to now to go through hours of streams to link you short clips? Look it up yourself, silvervale wasnt only one who left in 2023 and said she wasnt being paid.

>The money never went into their pockets you retard.
"just trust me bro" logic again
Who lost money? How much? Where is the other half of the charity money mouse took?

>Ironmouse lost a huge amount of money and 50% of the marketing went to...nowhere
Every place you looked it was iron mouse shilling, youtube and twitch, endless new costume debuts, events, redebuts, anniversaries and ads.
They paid for Razer, MSI, GFuel and other big brands to advertise her, i wont event mention all the money that went to shill her on every vtuber con, i bet all that missing money went on her.

You think all that was for free? It seemed like Vshojo was just "ironmouse and orbiters", since they funneled all money into her.
Anonymous No.103453830 >>103453944
>>103453756
>glance over the post
>not a single link posted
Ok you're done and lost. Go fuck yourself for wasting my time and responding to me again.
Anonymous No.103453887 >>103453992
>>103451683
>It’s completely legitimate — and pretty common — for Ironmouse to have routed the charity money through VShojo instead of paying it directly herself, especially for privacy, logistics, and tax reasons.
And whose fault is it even if true you retard?
Her job was simple, give money to the charity, what she does? Gives it to a third party all while lying to people she grifted out of money and then dosnt care what happens next as she took her cut already.

>The problem only starts if the intermediary pockets the funds.
And she dosnt report it to the authorities. Again, covering up a crime is also a crime.
Anonymous No.103453944 >>103453992
>>103453830
Ok you fucking simp, keep sucking up to this grifting thief and her retarded orbiters.
Fucking no better than logan paul, tate and all those other thieving lying eceleb scum and their retarded cultists.
Anonymous No.103453992
>>103453887
>And whose fault is it
Vshojo's fault. Anything else is cope.

>>103453944
Don't reply to me you subhuman TVA liar.
Anonymous No.103454144 >>103454894
>>103453756
>They paid for Razer, MSI, GFuel and other big brands to advertise her
the TVA goblinoid doesn't know how sponsorships work lol
thank you pippa and kirsche for bringing these tards here
Anonymous No.103454894 >>103455094
>>103454144
>the TVA goblinoid doesn't know how sponsorships work lol
Yeah, you dumb fuck, you pay to shill a product.
Vshojo paid them to produce endless ironmouse related merch and to have her products on tech events.
You know when the vtubers get paid? When they shill products on their stream, why the fuck would MSI pay vshojo to have her ugly mug plastered all over their own hardware events?
I bet you think convention hall owners paid Vshojo to have bunch of sweaty retards show up and shit up the place too, right?
Anonymous No.103455027
>I cried every day
>never spoke out once to anyone
What lying does to a motherfucker. Nyanners was doing it too
Anonymous No.103455094 >>103455224
>>103454894
>you pay to shill a product.
Holy fucking retard....
Anonymous No.103455224
>>103455094
Phasefags paid fishman for merch back in january that they are still to this day waiting to arrive. And they shill him for free
Anonymous No.103455331 >>103455477 >>103455648
>>103434194
Because Hololive was a generally good experience for all of those who left and felt it was just their time to move on and by not bringing up anything about your past work, you don't make people who didn't start following you until you reincarnated feel like they're "left out" and you also don't invite trolls and shitheads to start harassing former coworkers by spreading potentially malicious information, i.e. why most graduations are due to "creative differences:" Cover doesn't mind the bad PR in the short term because the alternative is faggots bothering the girls still there and accusing them of suffering from stockholm syndrome if they aren't planning on leaving either.
Anonymous No.103455477 >>103456034
>>103455331
Nah, they can't just talk about their issues. You wouldn't graduate if you have mostly good experiences, especially not that many talents in a short timespan. If anything Vshojo's downfall showed pretty clearly how much bullshit can be swept under the rug by NDA's.
Anonymous No.103455648 >>103456034
>>103434194
>why didnt people stand up to this bilion $ international media conglomerate with a thousand lawyers from a country with the most corrupt legal system in any developed country
a true mystery

>>103455331
>Hololive was a generally good experience for all of those who left and felt it was just their time to move on and by not bringing up anything about your past work
lol
lmao
Anonymous No.103455720 >>103456045
>>103432645 (OP)
does she actually expect anyone to believe this bullshit?
Anonymous No.103456034 >>103456145 >>103456438
>>103455477
>>103455648
Either the Cover ninjas are really good or maybe, just maybe, Cover has been incompetent at worst and not cartoonishly evil compared to its direct competitors so those who leave don't really care to shittalk it even in vaguespeak.
Anonymous No.103456045 >>103456325
>>103455720
This scandal will only make her bigger, shes like those porn actor whores that sleep with 1000 people.
The narrative is already that this poor dying vtuber was scammed by an evil corporation, people dont care its a middle aged woman who became extremely rich off the whole grift.
I just wonder how will she try to top this? Sudden announcement she has terminal cancer and needs 10 milion for surgery to save her life? I dont know, but i bet we will soon find out.
Anonymous No.103456145
>>103456034
It says a lot when the worst rrat antis can come up with is "they're too lazy to get game perms". Even Rushia (who still regrets getting fired to this day) hasn't talked shit about cover
Anonymous No.103456325
>>103456045
At least you drop your mask in the first sentence, seething numberchimp.
Anonymous No.103456438
>>103456034
It has shit reviews from ex employees on work sites, and talents already told us about them freezing money, constant suspensions and extreme management oversight.
Dosnt help that most cover employees and talents are from japan, where work culture is extremely toxic and having no personal life is a norm.
I work in game dev and trust me, there is no such thing as a nice corporation, at most they have good and expensive PR.
Anonymous No.103457797
VShojo are all disgusting snakes in the grass. From top to bottom. Yes even Henya.
Yes especially management.
Melody knew everything. It was always and ONLY about the money.
Anonymous No.103458587
>>103448467
when she's talking about abuse she's talking about mtd telling talents that they hated each other, continuously, for years. it destroyed her friendship with nyan and she's just now rekindling it. she was told she can't leave vshojo because the company would die without her. she was told she couldn't invite certain people to games or collab with some others, she wasn't allowed to interact with nova even though she really wanted to
basically they were controlling mouse's personal relationships with people and it hits extra hard for her because she's been through it before. on top of that they took close to if not more than a million dollars from her (not including charity money), and money from all of her friends and coworkers. that's what she's been legally allowed to mention, she's said there's more she can't talk about yet and it could be a long fucking time because they're avoiding her lawyers
Anonymous No.103458860 >>103460897 >>103461105
>>103433794
> talent freedom
> except shit we don't like such as hogwarts legacy

This should have been a fucking red flag for anyone seeing this.
It's like the UK claiming there's freedom of speech but as soon as you say something bad about muslims, they send the police after you.
Kson is a fucking retard for promoting this shit and not seeing the red flags.
Anonymous No.103460897 >>103461134
>>103458860
But see they didn't say it was an official mandate, they pretended to just be a high-minded leftie clique that all knew not to play it
Anonymous No.103461105 >>103461184
>>103458860
why do you TVA /#/ retards never understand what time is?
is this what it's like to live with a sub 80 iq?
that screenshot is from one year before any of the hogwarts shit
Anonymous No.103461134
>>103460897
That would be necessary to avoid drawing more ire toward the group as a whole, no?
Anonymous No.103461184
>>103461105
low IQ?

Yeah

I am an earth elemental after all
Anonymous No.103461867 >>103465842
>>103432645 (OP)
>Millionaire talks about how tough their job is while drying their tears with $100 bills
This women makes so much money she didn't notice she wasn't get paid FOR MONTHS
I don't care nigga!
Anonymous No.103461930
>>103433561
Anon. The illigal shit isn't part of this topic you dumb fuck. Learn to fucking read you braindead imbecile.
Anonymous No.103462904 >>103463022
I don't have sympathy for a Vtuber with over 70+ models and chooses to continue to beg for more money when she literally had a lot of money sent to her previously in and out of corporate. This stinks of money laundering from Twitch and YouTube and I can prove it.
Anonymous No.103463022
>>103462904
>and I can prove it
prove it then
Anonymous No.103463613 >>103463626
how old is iron mouse anyways
Anonymous No.103463626 >>103463917
>>103463613
About three fiddy
Anonymous No.103463917
>>103463626
go fuck yourself
Anonymous No.103465842
>>103461867
they got paid quarterly, the didn't get paid "FOR MONTHS" literally by contract
Anonymous No.103466723
>>103433794
>Do I have to post the bajillion clips where her and kson were basically fellating gunrun and/or vshojo management with endless praise?
yes
because you will only get two different situations in 2022
nijinigger with the broken mind