Thread 103439549

Sleepy Edition Edition

Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Don't be retarded

Image source: https://x.com/binsake6969/status/1954916887906992404

/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/nagisekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related /in/dies:
Beri - https://www.twitch.tv/beribug
Tori - https://www.twitch.tv/torioriane
Mint - https://www.youtube.com/@mintfantome
Feebee - https://www.twitch.tv/feebee
Pia - https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo
Momo - https://www.twitch.tv/momo

Related:
/999/ + /総長/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>103429684

How do we save NijiEN?

>>103439567
i dont know if theres anyone still there worth saving, other than maybe Scarle

say it

>>103439582
Fat Bi...

>>103439567
let gunrun become the CEO

Why do you even need new threads? It's literally the same sperging every time. Just let it die. All ex-corpo threads are doomed, there's no saving it.

>>103439582
I’m looking forward to her collab with Mouse again someday.

>>103439578
This Scarle?

>>103439567
no need to save it, jp management is actually ok
having a small en branch just in name (to please investors) is the best move in this case

>>103439567
Hire MTD

>>103439630
Cry more

>>103439659
scarle is soon to go too

Team Geega

Team Vei

>>103439726
>>103439746
cucked faggot

Team lewd Mouse

>>103439578
Mouse was going to save her but then she discovered she was a fake latina. she's just a flip

>wake up
>ironmouse still hasnt killed herself despite overwhelming public demand to do so
why does she insist on living?

EVIL WOMAN

>>103439746
Hell yea

>>103439790
Every time someone says something like this it add a year to Mouse’s life.
Fuck you cunt

>>103439582
pink cat good

Will Vei cry when she meets Zen again

>>103439659
you convinced me, she good

>>103439891
Probably not since she's not as emotional as some of the other girls and she doesn't like crying on stream

>>103439861
>adds a year to Mouse’s sad pathetic life of pain and suffering
based

>>103439891
No, it's probably gonna go like
>Yo, Zen, Soda's cock is bigger than yours, LOL

>Vei of all people is collabing with bbno$ soon
How does this fag manage to keep worming his way deeper into xvsj+?

>>103439966
big if true

>>103439966
Because he’s a clout chaser so he just wants to collab with everyone and yes you can clout chaser off people smaller than you.

>>103440035
No believe it or not it is actually true

>>103440078
One can only hope this distracts him enough for Mouse to drop him finally.

>>103440078
Lmao this dude is like a roach

>>103439966
hes a tiktok rapper, he knows that his career and popularity are a very strict fifteen minutes of fame, so he has to do as much shit as he can before he gets dragged off into the dark

>>103440078
bbno$ will bring unity

Will Mouse ever post some ASMR on Patreon since it is still listed as a reward?
I want some Mouse ASMR.

>>103440078
What's the contest about?

>>103440279
It's a cosplay contest apparently
https://x.com/emiru/status/1940524370423886139

my oshi hates me

>>103440415
Same

>>103440379
>An excuse for him to ogle at hot women on stream
Maybe that anon that keeps saying he's a sexpest is right lol

>>103440415
I hate my oshi instead

My oshi goons to me

>>103440415
Every female vtuber hates her fans
They just like your money

>>103440544
Mouse used to love her viewers, I’m not so sure anymore.

>>103440756
Mouse loves me. She just hates you specifically because you're a miserable pathetic loser faggot.

Is Geega the only Vshojo to admit to being evil?

>>103440544
Geega appreciates

>>103440834
Wait for the Mel heel turn

>>103440756
that's a bold statement, got any proof?

>>103439826
F in chat. She will be missed.

>>103440078
bbnos going to try to fuck emiru o7

>>103440465
hes a known sexpest like wtf

>>103441184
did miz and her break up

4 words are all you need to say daily to bring your life peace and happiness.

>>103441355
i really like kchon

Good morning Did henya killed herself yet?

oh yeah, peak got a new biome yesterday, prepare for impact

>>103441355
I love you geega

Did someone say... DA WOSE?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D47vrD7fFLY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFMuq6IJ1F0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Ri1LjukjE

>>103441212
What do you mean "known"? That doesn't mean anything.

I have a question - when you fap in your rooms, do you cover your plushies so they won't see you or not?

>>103441554
They're my onaholes

NOOOOO MICHI DON'T OPEN THE ENVELOPE

>>103441526
Mysta-ry meat for da wose.

this lorevid aged like a fine glass of fresh milk

>>103441564
I can be your onahole <3

Michi should stop speaking to Henya. She’s a bad influence. We don’t henya to corrupt Michi

Just woke up and remembered that Zen won, today will be a good day.

Cute.

>>103441704
I hope zen finally kill henya career

>>103441554
Oh I cover my plushies alright.

>>103441704
Vedal won.

With any luck Mouse will do the long delayed fanart stream soon.

>>103441778
Vedal winning directly benefits Zen, so I'm happy with that.

>>103441725
notice how mouse instantly responded to this cute shippy bbno$ animation while completely ignoring that connor one she is finally learning to break free and focus on those who actually care about her and will go out of their way to make time to be there for her important first concert ever
>>103441784
it will be amazing to see all of the cute bbno$ fanart and animations shown off mouse is so happy to see them and she likes that people are drawing shipping art of the two of them its adorable

>>103441829
At this point your just being weird

Mouse please bring back #mouseylust

>>103441287
Most likely yes. He's basically been kind of ostracized from most of their friend group since then

>>103441902
>techy and Zen
please tell me they're fucking in the next panel

>>103441902
is that symboli rudolf

You know what would make zen happy? If henya killed herself

>>103441829
you're so desperate pushing this

Nathaniel actually Canon lore ICANT KEK

>>103441877
no weird than connorfags pushing their delusions
>>103442033
mouse is pushing it herself i only have to sit here and enjoy

mata bad

Why doesn’t Mouse get much art like this?
https://x.com/35p_com/status/1942871353293500421
https://x.com/yu_zu_co_kuro/status/1942879134109327515
https://x.com/xdeyuix/status/1943607949412483293
https://x.com/raituna_/status/1955369496841212113
She has multiple ranges of sexy lingerie but we rarely get any good art in lingerie.

>>103441829
Bbno is moving onto vei instead, he's done with mouse

>>103441829
you just being creepy now chill out dude

>>103441778
Did he finally stop using the voice synthesizer?

henya is a bitch

>>103442089
so are connorfags when they push their shipping delusions even after mouse has emphasized otherwise yet you all let them run rampant

>>103442089
They don’t care, they are a 93% who is trying to get Mouse away from Connor and false flagging as a Mouse gosling.

>>103441970
>please tell me they're fucking in the next panel
https://nhentai.net/g/589564/
Indeed they are. Heads up it's Futa however

>>103442085
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/124603236

>>103442080
Why??
What's your opinion on melody and froot? What aren't they telling us?

>>103442085
If I had a nickel for every time I see an artist who draws sexy art of many vtuber but when they come to draw Mouse they draw her cute or much less sexy than their normal style I would be rich.

>>103441829
connor broke you so fucking bad holy fuck

>>103442158
HELL YEAH

>>103442182
>nearly a year ago
I’m not saying they don’t exist but god damn they are rare these days.

https://bsky.app/profile/splicermechanium.bsky.social/post/3lwarxou3dk2k
#mouseylust

>>103442193
Mothers should not be sexualized.

>>103442239
Eww why is it always bad

kek
kuro x squ eating good
kuro x deme in the shit

>>103442319
?

>>103442319
>>103441987
forgot the reply...

>>103442343
I'm kind of confused can't Michi just ask the members if they are still okay with them being in it? Unless she is talking about non Vshojo peeps?

>>103442290
It would be funny if Michi release her game before Mouse gets her VN out.

>>103441704
>>103441747
Mental illness. Like fag like streamer.

>>103442366
It’s one of Mouse’s subgoals so I doubt she’s even started working on it.

>>103442356
it's might have a lot of vshojo branding all over it

>>103442144
Zenfags turning on henya is a real mask off moment

>omori style game
>main character would be Jared

i need more drama, sisters

>>103442436
ari stole my virginity

Michi is really confirming herself as the true unity queen.

>>103441987
>>103442379
She's not wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhbnI5eMUEg

i will watch nanner today

>>103442150
you love to type your fanfics here so much like you do 20k words here a day

>>103442524
i will watch geeger today

>>103442526
ironic you connorfags have been doing that for years

Mouse should show her Decora panties on stream, just for a second ‘by accident’.
It will piss Connorsperg off so much.

>>103442607
Mouse has pretty much said she hates people seeing her like that.

>>103442580
you're not even a mousefag idk why you trying so hard

>>103442611
never happening and mouse has made sure no artist will "accidentally" add them to another model ever again

>>103442668
even more ironic considering you are connorfags pretending to like mouse

>>103442670
Mouse likes her monke panties it makes her feel like he’s close to her pussy and that makes her wet.

>>103442611
I was watching Cluseller work on Mouse's Halloween model and thought for a second it also had Monke panties. Sadly they only seem to be pink but it would have been hilarious.

>Geega on GTA
I'm mad.
>Geega not on GTA
I'm worried.

I'm so cooked bros. I need help.

>>103442607
>it...
...

>>103442741
Pink panties are good too.
I need more Mouse panties in my life monke branded or not.

>>103442765
You need more Geega

>>103442741
I’m praying for a yump and sitting on this one.

>>103442731
beyond delusional
>>103442741
unlike nano cluseller is a professional who doesnt add unwanted additions without mouses approval

>>103442417
Those aren’t zenfags. It’s obvious that they are falseflagging

I watched the Zen Silver reunion clip. I teared up when Silver cried.

I never really cared for nano she’s way overrated imho

>>103442930
gay

>>103442741
Cluseller is dogshit. Why does that guy keep getting work?

>>103442930
Mouse could never

Peke live for Subnautica
Hotaru live for Persona
This has been your Nova update

>>103442966
Mouse should never

>>103442930
It was a nice stream. Was bored as hell after half an hour and no one was using fbt but nice to see them together

>>103442689
is this dude fucking retarded like bro wtf?

>>103442930
we're so back bros

Henya bunny model is dogshit. The only reason it’s popular is because it’s lewd but honestly the rigging is one of the worst I have ever seen

>>103442986
My wife and our daughterwife.

>>103442986
Tabs go back to your hugbox

>>103443036
niji models and hololive models exist..... someone post kroni or Ike slenderman

>>103443071
Still worse than Niji rigging desu

>>103443063
This is the nova thread
Keep crying about it plusfaggot

Is this thread only for anti? I don’t get it

It's hard to deny Zen's winning the optics war right now. I hope Mouse can mount a quick comeback to appease us moderates and level the playing field at least.

>>103442930
Same it was really nice to see her reunite with Zen.
Fuck Gunrun and fuck VShojo.

>>103443111
Nova are literal who + you have a thread dedicated to them

Why does Geega only do comedic bits when she's on other people's streams? She never does it on her own stream.

>>103443161
She hates us

>>103443145
Mouse can’t comeback from that. The only play right now is to sacrifice henya when she kill herself to farm pity

>>103443145
what does that even mean? winning?

>>103443156
This is the ex-vshojo thread.
They are ex-vshojo.
I used the smallest words I could to make it easy for even you to understand, hope it helped.

>>103443219
Buy an ad

Peke thread, Peke board. Pekek.

>>103443219
don't engage with that schizo.

>>103443274
Peak thread, Peak board.

>>103443274
She’s the worst nova

>>103443156
>>103443255
kys faggot

>Zen showed up on Silvervale birthday stream
>Silver has collabed with Nyanners and Vei after they all left the company
The elephant in the room is now Silvervale and Ironmouse, will they collab and smooth things out or have the bridge been burned?

>>103442930
Based

>>103443314
Mouse burned the bridge and blew up the supports.

>>103443314
They don’t need to ffs.
That friendship has passed it doesn’t stop Mouse being friends with people silver collabs with.
Let’s just be happy if we get pink love back.

>>103443274
double pekeroni

>>103442930
>>103443338
Girl cries at the drop of a hat

>>103443384
and it makes me want to protect Silbur every time

Why hasn't Hime collabed with all the leavers? What is happening? Why does she hate them? I'm stealing her boobs.

>>103443412
That would require her to stream

>>103443412
wtf give them back

>>103443412
That's so fucked up dayo

>>103443384
You don't know the backstory of that hat and why it meant so much to her. Pfft. Newfags. Pfftpfft.

>>103443457
It's an expression

Reminder that every negative post is confirmed to be either MTD, Apek, or a mentally ill /swarm/fag

>>103443426
Last stream - Friday 13th of June
That's when she unleashed the curse
She's an evil genius sent to destroy from within

>>103443504
at least 1 of them was me and i'm not anyone of them
i think

Kuro has a Thailand con meet & greet and exclusive merch

https://x.com/AniEx_event/status/1955600232223240666

>the gays
Uh huh sure numi

>>103443504
don’t forget the retarded thread detective. he makes most of the shitposts. he got banned before and you could tell he was responsible for most of the thread shitting

about to look up gray haired elf doujins

I wonder how much Geega was pushed towards idolshit by hololive obsessed gunrun

>>103443676
0 considering she never sang or danced

>>103443689
geega has polyps

Vtubers needs to stop doing covers of Giga songs...

ironmouse should reconsider this whole being alive thing that shes doing

>>103443791
she should come live with me. ill be her malewife

I think I need to come to terms with the fact that Haruka is just never going to stream again.

Nagi live for the last few chapters of yakuza3

>>103443807
Nah. Her only work experience outside of vtubing was theater work for people with disabilities. If she needs to pay rent, vtubing will pay 10x if not more whatever else she can do

>>103443063
Rude and disrespectful post.

>>103443523
aww his thai fans in the quotes are so happy

>>103443791
she gets stronger with hate it adds years to her so your fucking up

>>103443847
She sould start disabled cirque du soleil.

>>103443847
>needs to pay rent
>husband
Moving on.

>>103443359
It literally does. You'll never see Mouse collabing with anyone Silver is friends with. There's a reason Mouse will never be a part of the 4skinz reunion.

>>103443935
*wife

>>103443847
>rent
You vastly underestimate how rich these girls are

>>103443982
>rich
You vastly overestimate how rich these girls are

>>103443943
I don’t fucking care. I watch Mouse fore Mouse, collabs are fine but she can collab or not collab with whoever she wants.

>>103444013
if a low 3view makes six figures

autism thread I stg

When is henya joining her sibling

>>103444055
true

>>103444070
Soon

>>103444070
Kindly kill yourself subhuman

>>103444013
A 4view with merch is a millionaire

>>103444017
how many of them collab with both teams?

>>103444222
Bitch there are no teams you delusional fuckwit

>>103444222
There’s no team

>>103444246
>>103444247
i'm team mouse

>>103443943
>You'll never see Mouse collabing with anyone Silver is friends with
Even Nyanners?

>>103444271
She would rather kill herself

I mainly care about solo streams anyway. One on one chatting collabs can be fun though.

i simply watch streams.

I'm team who ever sells their pussy water first.
as long as its not mata's,ari's or zen's ass juice.

>>103444349
ive seen mel produce some egg white lookng juice before. thats gotta be the premium shit.

>>103442106
Vedal never used it in the first place.

>>103444395
Does Mel ever so IRL shit?
or does she just post like aftermath shit

My life will be complete and I could die happy if I ever hear real moans of pleasure from Mouse.
Also there are no teams but if there were I’m team Mouse.

>>103444449
You are a good person anon.

>>103444461
For which part kek

Will mouse kick Ari to the curb or will Ari abandon mouse for a hololive first?

Kuro is live, stripping on stream

https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro

>>103444504
Nah vtubers love to support the underdog because it makes them look good.

(You) lost.

Michi has hit 39k subs 13 days into August

>>103444449
Sorry Connor stole any chance of that happening.

>>103444535
>stripping on stream
gay

>>103444636
has she redeemed her cuck status?

>>103439891
She saw some of the shit Zen had to go to just to have her husband unbanned in her channel. Vei was in the private comms chat where the Vshojo collapse was planned and Zen put her restraining order on Matara, Heavenly(Henry), and Arielle. We'll see, but Vei was a team Zen and Vince person then.

>>103441704
Zen and Vince fans RISE UP!

>>103442384
>>103442949
Stop talking about yourself in third person.

Kuro didn't even know the convention is in Thailand

>>103439942
reddit post

>>103442144
a bad bitch
dayo

>>103442930
Silvervale is pro-truth and pro-Vince truth on Vtubers. She has been very supportive of Zen and Vince since the beginning. One of the earliest members to the Vtube-general threads too. She deserved a really happy birthday for her honesty wholesomeness.

>>103443145
>being vtubemom
>making your husband visible.
>gamer of the year
All of these are very feminine wins.

>>103444878
aiiieeeee

So who's this new poopdickschizo?

>>103444426
nah aftermath only

>>103444901
me
check it out
( )

Is Michi digging up pre Mika clips?

sex with Jared

>>103444968
who

well the good news from the past few weeks is that i purchased the haruka boob mousepad before they started scamming people

>Mono mention in Kuro's stream
It's so over

>>103445157
he's going to steal the K9s' mans

>>103444944
tried finding it on her fansly, not really getting anything.

>>103445157
I know hes kinda not liked, but he could help Kuro with his music stuff

>>103443212
you already know

>>103445179
The only thing he'll be stealing is people's sanity when he inserts himself for the hundredth time

>>103444836
Cringe like henya

What the helly

i don't think i can last until geega's stream...

Thank you so much for a lot for the hundredth time

I'll jack off to the third chuuba posted after this post

Going to bed for geega

>>103445219
So HIV and mental illness. That's rough.

>>103444850
who the fuck is vince

>>103444917
Real life deniers are getting BTFO.

I jerked off to an evil woman :(

>>103445340
the creator of Vtubers, Zen's husband, and the guy who started the Vtuber movement online with the Vtuber General threads. The Vince posters were the ones who said Vshojo was gonna collapse.

Michi why do you have to wait so fucking long to play GTA? I have to go to sleep in a couple hours

why did Zen call mouse their boss?

>>103445411
>Zen's husband,

my name isnt vince

>>103445308
>xvsj
>posting vtubers
Not happening this thread. Drama sisters have no saved images just threadshitting

>>103445468
Gunrun was an absentee, MTD was shitposting, and apek was busy stealing money. Mouse effectively ran the company. Every major company decision was planned and organized by mouse and gunrun showed up to sign his name on the dotted line. Every concert, every video, every merch campaign, every company sponsor, every con. All mouse and her managers.

>>103445468
?

What the hell is going on in this thread

>>103445571
Mature discussion

>>103445515
soooo mouse....

Seeing places talk about subtember makes me sad we are not getting a subathon this year. At least Mouse is planning to do a promise week even if I fear she needs much more than a week.

>>103445527
>bison

>>103445515
>Source
He made it the fuck up

>>103445601
I'm sick of subathons tbqhwy
When can we get a domathon?

>>103445646
But Mouse isn’t a dom, not that she would admit that anymore.

Idk People are trying to throw mouse under the bus but I can't for the life of me figure out why other then skitzo takes.
If she/her managers were managing the company in some way then i guess it makes sense but there is too little info on it to buy the idea.

>>103445308
>>103445689
alright Naggers it is

>>103445679
Anon, it's just hard to think that people can be THIS stupid, I honestly can't take any of the girls that go "I didn't knyow" about 5 years of their career being a lie

>>103445679
It’s antis who are squatting here trying to push that narrative.

>>103445715
So did Zen, Froot and Kson to some extend, and maybe even Mel
If there was more evidence then I'll start believing the rrat

>>103445715
You are stupid

>>103445679
TVA monkeys aren't people

Kuro has been having auditory hallucinations

Morning, boys. What's the narrative today?

>>103445772
Oh I'm not on the "blame mouse" team that's just schizo babble. I just generally expect that if there are ever any leaks from the bankruptcy proceedings, it's going to look "worse" for the girls in terms of what they knew.

>>103445715
Anon just look at all the artist who didn’t get paid and never complained, people put up with a lot of shit an no one wants to be the whistleblower only reason Mouse did was because of the charity money, if she thought it was just herself losing money I don’t think she would have said anything, some people are just like that and get taken advantage of because of it.

>>103445840
Nagi cute.

>>103445610
Kson is probably the only real vtuber lesbian and even she isn't 100% gay

>>103445846
Not really, it’s scary how much of their own suffering people hide when in an abusive relationship, which is what vshojo was.

>>103445840
Geega fucked 1000 anons last night

>>103445851
>no one wants to be the whistleblower
I think this is the part people forget or ignore when they think" why did no one say anything"
>>103445846
Skitzo takes and ass kissing aside I have to agree. When and if stuff comes out its going to take one hell of a google docky to clear things up.

it's fucking insane that anybody is still trying to make serious posts here. what on earth are you doing

>>103445625
>mastering by loutlout
Mouse had direct authority over JP CEO

103445938
>He says to him self after just finishing jacking off.

>>103445907
Anon, what I mean is that if you are constantly late/stiffed on payment for 5 years, you are either okay with it and aware, or should ride the short bus.

>>103445937
>this is the part people forget
Exactly, this is why every time a big thing like this comes out it’s always followed by a flood of more people coming forward.
No one wants to start.

>>103445421
Nevermind, I forgot this is the shitposting and schizo rrats thread, not the thread to actually discuss streams

>>103445981
it was 8 months according to kson

>>103445981
Sometimes i feel like people give up critical thinking when giving people they like the benefit of the doubt, so much so its almost like the doubt doesn't exist.

>>103445981
tourist detected. non-payment was only an issue since last year, this was not a five year problem

>>103445959
What?
This is some Nyan is a shadow CEO levels of crazy again.

>>103446026
maybe for kson, but both vei and nyan said payment issues were there from the start.

Dunno if you guys saw but there's a beastiez + zentreya collab tomorrow

>>103445978
Lolol get a load of this chino. Doesn't even know how to reply properly.

>>103445851
Mouse knew artists werent getting paid, and she cares more about getting concerts paid for with company debt than she did about seeing 100k in merch paychecks.

>>103446069
>Mouse knew artists werent getting paid
source required

>>103445981
Fucking dumbass, you do know people stay in abusive relationships for years or never leave them, taking the leap is harder.

>>103446053
yeah because they quit and vshojo tried to cheap out by not paying them.

103446067
>Irony is lost on the dumb

>>103446027
Anon it’s him that is not thinking.

Kuro commissioned new key art for himself because he doesn't want to use the VShojo one anymore and he needed a new one anyway for this model

>>103445938
you want a serious post here you go
I feel Vshojo was functioning like this company that Coffeezilla talked a bout a while ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD-McWZz_pk

TLDR it was a merch company but they wasted money so they go to the point
that creators were bing paid by the money being made by other creators drops merch drop
So for example Mouse did a merch drop, and 2 months later Zen would drop merch as well
Mouse would be paid with whatever money Zen made, and there was an upcoming Mel merch
thats how Zen would get paid
The problems arise when one drop was bigger than the other so they were on the negative
The question was what happened to the original capital(in our case the investment)

>>103446125
slut

>>103446107
I'm sorry you don't like what they are saying but more or less its true.
Some people knew about the payments and didn't say anything others were just ignorantly waiting for payment.
There really isn't much to argue.

>>103446069
No she didn’t.
She had been under pressure to be the breadwinner of vshojo for 2 years and had been fed lies about her friends but she only found out about the money stuff this year when she tried to take back control of her own finances and they didn’t have any of her money that she thought they did.

>>103446125
nice it seems like the same artist mouse used for hers looking at the anime NYC tweet

>>103446079
It was revealed to him in a dream

>>103446137
>The question was what happened to the original capital
Hookers and blow, mels new 3d studio, candy pop explosion.

>>103446156
Have you never followed the news we things like this happen?
It’s always the case that people just put up with a shitty situation and no one wants to be the whistleblower.
You are treated humans as if they are robots.

>>103446137
Yes anon, we all know how a Ponzi scheme works

>>103446137
I'm pretty sure the original capital mostly got fucked during the SVB bank run because their CFO was an incompetent fuck

The sooner Mouse can talk about everything the better.
These conspiracy theories aren’t going to stop until everything is out in the open.

>>103446284
Yeah the problem is we might not hear shit till 2026 given how vshojo is ghosting her lawyer

>>103445340
Basically the one person who started Vtubers that they're trying to cover up. He got married to Zentreya in 2017 and they planned the restraining orders against people, the Vshojo collapse, and all of her Vtuber models, afk screens, etc. The two of them created the Zentreya character when they started getting hate crimed for being married since they were little.

>>103446125
>>103446125
brother really just remade his vtuber into the girly guy he wants to fuck, didn't he?

Nyanners Silverwhale Zentreya and Ironmouse all quit over non-payment without telling their friends that they suspected vshojo was bankrupt. Real nice and warm community.

>>103446284
Yeah because Mouse hasn't been known to lie or anything.

Where were you when you heard the news?

>>103446226
You are arguing nothing.
again, use critical thinking.
We are just saying they knew or were ignorant.
No one (in this conversation) is shitting on them because they were scared to come out. Your fighting ghost brother.

I miss the Petschizo, at least he was funny sometimes.

>>103446419
You just misses dick posts.

Henya whenya?

>>103446328
He did straight up say that

I guarantee MTD will have a google doc where he will partially admit to wrongdoings, but also throw mouse, mata, and mel under the bus for knowledge of shady business while doing nothing about it. he'll also try to get zen for being controlling behind the scenes and ruining vshojo's reputation.

>>103446407
Ok but we already knew that so why bring it up unless you are be accusatory?
Don’t act innocent

>>103446402
Mel got Epstein'd.

Some people have been talking about Henya being a "guy" but to be honest if Henya was just a sissy asian otokonoko my views on them wouldn't change, I'd still rail that flat bussy.

>>103446340
Zen tried to tell her friends and they told her 'we know, but if we hire maidmint and senzawa and keeki then their merch sales will pay off the debt' so she blocked them.

>>103446478
I've been as charitable as i can be on 4chan, but Jesus dude, you're a bad relationship waiting to happen.

>>103446518
nah I'm with him, you know damn well what you're doing and if for some reason you don't- you can't have a reasonable conversation about this kind of thing when the thread is stuffed with antis

Mario Kart time. First time Kuro is using the Switch 2.

>>103446518
Fuck off we all know your game

>>103446559
Just fucking ignore the antis and schizos, they are not going away so we just have to ignore them.

>>103446599
it's been three weeks which is long past when antis usually get tired, I don't know how it's not clear to you that this probably isn't going to go away

>>103446634
It’s still an active situation.
We don’t really know much yet.

>>103446634
This thread has literally been worse pre fall than post.

Mouse deserves to be thrown under the bus, metaphorically, and literally.

>>103446713
No it was good when we were in the eye of the storm following the drama a reforming the thread into xvsj

If you guys aren't women then you need to get your hormones check out because holy shit was that an emotional mess in an otherwise logical conversation

At least the antis are talking about the streamers and not the current situation with the thread you boring fuckwits

>>103446634
>they are not going away so we just have to ignore them
>I don't know how it's not clear to you that this probably isn't going to go away
At least read what you respond to holy shit

best thread on vt no lie

>>103446741
Ding ding you are wrong

The real question is why did Zen suddenly get away with being a controlling abuser because she went sorry guys I’m an alcoholic?

>>103446844
Because mouse fumbled even worse by aligning with Ari

>>103446582
>>103446559

>>103446844
Ari was nice with her outing and had no ill will towards Zen
She pretty strongly implied that she could throw Zen under the bus if she wanted to but that she doesn't

>>103446892
Saying she tried to control who she collabed with is pretty fucking bad. It is textbook abusive behavior.

>>103446844
Zen is a good person, always has been. Ari is a lying psychopath. She has literally no evidence of Zen being controlling in anyway.

>>103446922
You actually believe her?

What is the purpose of coins in this Mario Kart?

>>103446844
>>103446866
ari fumbled the bag by not saying how zen was controlling. while zen didn’t defend herself. blaming it on vshojo/gunrun would be extremely easy

>>103446922
Show evidence of Zen doing this. I'll wait.

>>103446928
If Ari lied why didn’t Zen say that?

>>103446936
Increase speed

>>103446936
speed and new vehicles

>>103446928
>>103446932
>>103446957
If someone accuses you of something like that and it’s not true you deny it.
Zen has not denied anything she just blamed alcohol.

>>103446968
Because Zen is too distraught and stressed from the whole situation, as anyone who saw the stream after can tell. Zen doesn't just get absolutely smashed drunk unless she's under some insane stress or depression. Ari lied, presented nothing to back up her claims, and caused Zen irreparable harm.

>>103446997
Wrong you hold onto it. When the google doc eventually comes out about Ari...then you say she was lying. At that point its you and a lot of other people against Ari rather than just 1v1.

>>103447032
>caused Zen irreparable harm
Zen literally started it by making it public it could have been a private matter but Ari was forced to address it because you lot harassed her.
I don’t even fucking like Ari but it clear Zen is in the wrong.

>>103446997
>If someone accuses you of something like that and it’s not true you deny it
That is literally the worst thing you can do. If someone accuses you of being controlling the best thing you can do is drop them as fast as possible. Anything you say will just be taken as evidence of you trying to cling to them

zen should abuse me next

>>103447089
this but unironically also this specific anon only

>>103447079
>it could have been a private matter
Yeah, a private matter between zen and ari ...and mouse and henya ...and buffpup and rose

>>103447084
Sure you distance yourself but you also say it’s not true.

>>103447079
She only aired out that they weren't related anymore. She was a drunken mess but never put the blame on anyone. Ari aired out more than Zen, even threaten to release more when it was clear that Zen wasn't going to speak anything other than not them being related.

>>103447079
>making it public
In a private discord, in her community, which was bombarding her with questions. She didn't shout it from the rooftops on stream and twitter. It was a private matter which involved the geckos.

>>103447113
Nope. Zen completely dodging ari as ari tries to fill zen's slot in collabs with zens old friends just shows which one was more obsessed with the other.

>>103447177
>even threaten to release more
This is the big takeaway that shows you Ari is the problem. Basically blackmailing Zen to shut up.

>>103446284
I was in the private comms and I didn't sign an NDA. People were violating the law and got caught.

Basically it's like this

>Zentreya and her husband create Vtubers at a young age, get married at a young age, sign contracts and agreements at a young age. Happy life.

>this pisses off pedophile cults because they're young Christians, so teachers and guidance counselors start to abuse them and target them with harassment.

>a bunch of police reports get filed, some repercussions are felt.

>Highschool: Zen's husband starts the Vtuber general threads, it's mostly peaceful, about the game "Vtubers" they used to play as little kids which was basically a ruleset for playing anime-make believe as a community. People mostly talk videogames, anime, and their ideas for making Vtubers as great as possible. People find out Zen and her husband are married teens then people start targeting her and him for abuse. Some are women, little girls, some are men.

>Vshojo and Ironmouse IP are both first use ownership for Zentreya and her husband.

>Trademark office is contacted early, notes the first use belongs to Zentreya and her husband for Vshojo and Ironmouse.

>Moot promises a VT board, tells Zentreya and her husband who are old friends of his and were at the 4chan founding, "stop the general threads and we'll start banning people for posting them" Vtuber discussion moves off 4chan to an official IRC chat, there's a brief email mailing list.

>2017 comes around, about 10 years after stalking and abuse events. Everyone is gathered on discord.

>Justin, Mowtendoo, and Ironmouse are effectively arrested and forced to perform their performance contracts. There's other legal issues and litigation done in the private comms. Basically the bad guys know they're wrong and are forced to do what the victims said.

>A lot of Zentreya's leeches are hate crime committers and are effectively arrested with performance agreements that have to be fulfilled and restraining orders placed against them.

>Pretty much every Vshojo talent ever was there, some were facing charges.
>Girls like Silver, Nyanners, and Vei decide that since they didn't commit crimes and that it's extremely toxic environment they'll leave to go indie and before that do the best they can to help Zen while she deals with the corrupt members since Vshojo was supposed to be one of the pillars of the Vtuber community.
>Froot, Kson, and Haruka decide they'll stay to the very end to close it out so that they stay involved incase there's any emergencies.
>Vshojo NOVA was basically created as a team to counter the hostile takeover attempt, they are interested in buying the IP from the rightful owners.

>Vshojo has to be forced to disband for violating the law and the intellectual properties of Ironmouse and Vshojo should be forfeited to Zentreya and her husband by the end of 2025 or there will be further litigation.

>Various members of Vshojo are there making performance agreements with Zentreya's husband because he's the father of the movement. Some will receive payment from him as thank you for helping to build Vshojo and for the trouble they went through being good to him as a victim of such a crime.

>Zentreya and husband make performance agreements and discuss how to reveal they're married to the world and community. She decides that bluecheckmark, making his profile reflect the truth, and her mods not banning him is enough for the community to connect the dots, anyone else has other issues with them.

>Eventually the plan is to take back the stolen IPs, regain control of the Vtuber movement to get out more of the criminals who use it as a vehicle for abuse, and build it into the entertainment movement it was supposed to be, which would be impossible under persecution.

The people who are here calling others schizo when they post the truth, such as Vshojo was gonna collapse, asking for source for repeat posters to the threads who had their outcome unfold (i.e. Vince posters), and other maladjusted individuals have an interest in victimizing the communities and performers of ExVSJ further, or are a part of the crimes that have taken place.

I.E. hiding the truth about Zentreya being married, they want to do as much harm to her as possible, some are guys she rejected in highschool, some are kids from elementary school, etc.

>>103447177
>She was a drunken mess
Same excuse wife beaters and rapist use

>>103447211
Hitler also drank. Coincidence?

>>103447182
It got posted on Reddit you moron

>>103447211
Yes, when they beat their wife or rape someone.
Zen wasn't a drunken mess when she tried to took control of her friendship with Ari. Her being a drunken mess was a repercussion
Also, comparing a friendship to beating someone or raping it, ain't it.

Holy shit rosemi is graduating,
this is the best day ever! finally she can collab with people other then Niji shits

>>103447253
I know it’s bad taste but using being drunk as an excuse pisses me off

>>103446997
Not when the person who is accusing you is trying to draw you into a "vexatious litigant" lawsuit because she's been trying to separate you and your husband since you were a little girl. Imagine you had someone at your birthday party who was like "This birthday party has to be about me or I'm gonna sue" "we have to be friends or I'm gonna sue." "You have to let me be a Vtuber or I'm gonna sue" Your whole life,this person has orbited you and threatened to sue, then you start an open source Christian Creative Play movement that lets her get part of what she wanted?

The person is trying to draw out money, time, and emotions. There's no reason Zentreya's performer has to deny false claims because if they come up in court she will be able to contest them. She instead has to avoid getting sucked into more time wasting with the spiteful litigant.

>>103447258
sell me on this rosemi girl pls

>>103447230
And? Zen didn't post it to reddit.

Kuro is bouncing on it, crazy style dayo

>>103447292
she like avoid the puddle and moonmoon

>>103447258
Would Da Wose collab with any of our girls? Was she close to Mika?

>>103447291
BTW they all avoid lawsuits with her husband because he wins 100%. So Zentreya and her husband being married was a big play to do in secrecy, their lawyers made a huge move off that one. Now building a home together while handling all those lawsuits can be challenging. This is the main reason you only saw them bring Zentreya's husband up indirectly on her stream. Every performance from the ones she filed a restraining order against will require them acknowledging she's either "Vtubemom", married, or the co-creator of the movement.

Some of those people opted to leave early with drama, others would rather stay for the attention. Either way, this movement has to be liberated.

>>103447335
She was friends with Kuro >>103441526 and Mata

>>103447295
She is, she use alt acc

>>103447272
No one is excusing her, but let's put the facts clear. Zen wasn't drunk when she did the action with Ari, her airing out was a DRUNK move, but nevertheless, she didn't wish ill on Zen neither did she attempt to make people to hate her, her literally message it barely comprehensive emotionally, but it conveys a message that friendship didn't worked out, don't relate the two because Ari WAS an important element of her channel at that point, and people kept mentioning her, and wish her the best.
Ari DID NOT like the first message, because next to drunken stream, people would obviously go "woe is me" to Zen, when she clearly was still hurting and blaming herself, but yet people would form pity out of her, and blame Ari.
Ari CONSCIOUSLY DID mention all of these facts, because she wanted to not leave any doubt that Zen was at fault, that's also a MALICIOUS ACT, one to search persecution, and even threaten for more if pushed. And she didn't have to be drunk to do that.

We don't go eye for an eye, especially for private matters. Otherwise the world goes blind.
Zen isn't a victim, but it is fair to call disgusting to what Ari tried to pull.

>>103447351
the cycle will be broken one day!

>>103447292
She's cute and nice and funny

>>103447292
Cool rosemi facts:
Selen tatsuki would rather attempt suicide than play gtarp with rosemi on december 26, 2023

Imagine typing paragraphs into a vtuber 4chan thread

>>103447432
Grammar check your shit before you post ESL arifag. No ome is reading your shit excuses.

hate matara a lot

>>103447432
Anons were absolutely saying that Zen being an alcoholic explains everything, so yes they were using her being an alcoholic as an excuse.

kuro a sex-haver?

>>103447507
yeah with me

>>103447432
So Ari should have just take the barrage of abuse from Zens community.
Zen is much bigger she has way
More responsibility.

>>103447507
he's had a lot of sex and I want to sex him

>>103447522
my real mommy

>>103447496
It's ok to be drunk, and being drunk offers leeway for Zen's actions. Ari was sober and 100% in control of her actions. Her actions were malicious and hurtful. Ari is far more at fault and responsible.

>>103447490
you and i aren't so different

loving ukrainian women with mental health issues a lot

>>103447556
Fuck right off, Ari was forced to address it because of people attacking her and her friends because Zen made it public.

>>103447538
>Ari should have just take the barrage of abuse
Unironically yes. Had she done that, this all would have faded by now and everything would be back to normal, and Zen would be in a better place mentally much sooner.

>>103447556
Ari is a demented narcissist who has been threatening to sue a married woman for not handing her husband over to her for almost 30 years now. You have no clue how in the fault Ari is but you're correct on your post.

It's basically corrupt judiciary, corrupt federal law, corrupt law enforcement letting her go on for this long.

>>103447623
You are very naive, some people still to this day harass Mouse and the other girls because of the Nux bullshit.

>>103447591
At least your not saying she's a well adjusted level headed adult I guess

>>103447656
Better than Zen being harassed.

>>103447538
>Zen is much bigger
Ari's audience is at worst 80% the size of zen's

>>103447671
>>103447670
Yeah, Ari is trying to draw the vexatious litigant suit on Zen to drag this on for another couple decades. Sometimes people do this after losing lawsuits over and over again.

>>103447671
Delusional. Ari is constantly under 4view status. Zen is always 4view and up.

>>103447538
Speculation will always come. It's part of the job they signed on to. Sadly, people will take their bias and make accusations. It doesn't help that they are in a community where people falseflag and attack for it.
If you clear the specualtion on your favor, it is done with the intention to damage the other.

>>103447507
He was sexually active in his teens and pre-vtuber/COVID period. Nowadays who knows

>>103447661
not that many mental health issues

>>103447573
>>103447669

>>103447399
Oh thats that girl who has no furniture

>>103447715
>Speculation will always come
Even more reason for Ari to shut up and take it. Had she not done her crocodile tears stream, this would be over.

>>103447725
I don't think Anny has a massive number of mental issues. Just one or two issues that dwarf the sun

>>103447671
Zens average is above 5k Ari’s is just above 2k

>>103447713
>Ari is constantly under 4view status.
3view/4view is the difference between 999 and 1000, not between 3000 and 4000. Ari has not been a 3view since fall of last year.

>>103447606
Sorry you don't understand how the real world works, anon. Adults drink every now and then. You can't hold them to an absolute standard like a 100% sober person all the time, especially when it comes to what they say. It's not like Zen was behind the wheel or something.

>>103447715
But it could have been avoided if Zen didn’t say anything.

Can someone give me a timetable on when this thread will be usable again?

Tired of checking to just see nonstop anti posts

>>103447774
Zen was being bombarded with questions. She had to make a statement. Ari chose to go on a warpath .

>>103447770
If drinking makes you a shitty human beings then yes you are accountable, if you drink drive or hurt someone while you are drunk you are still going to jail no leeway just because you were drunk.

kuro getting fucked over and over again

>>103447789
This
>>103447351

>>103447774
And people would still speculate about Zen and Ari, and by seeing how Mouse/Henya/Ari, would continue to bombarded them with questions until one snaps.

>>103447819
sounds hot

>>103447789
We go wild once we hit bump limit.

>>103447804
Right so Zen had to make a statement but Ari should have just take the abuse?
But of a double standard there.

>>103446844
>>103446892
>>103446922
>>103447253
>>103447432
holy mental illness

>>103447826
I don't think mouse n henya give a fuck about zen.
I can see zen snap

>>103447847
Yes it is. If you want a neutral or pro-ari opinion I would invite you to go to /lig/.

>>103447834
But it's shit before bump limit...

Remainder that Geega did it

>>103447870
>/lig/ caring about Ari
>any where that isn't /xvsj+/ caring about Ari

>>103447847
If you aren't guilty of it, you shouldn't worry about worthless speculation for such a small bump

Niji must be going tits up if Rosemi is leaving.

>>103447847
Ari is expendable

>>103447919
All corpos are bad
Except for Vshojo 2 under Panini

>24 hour timeout for complaining about mono in chat
You fuckers said everyone hated him. What the fuck?

The only ATLA content Kuro has watched is the live action movie...

>>103447789
I feel like the Zen and Mouse, Henya, and Ari schism will have lasting thread shitting power, like Silver did pre-VShojo collapse. It's a fundamental divide that isn't getting fixed any time soon. Geckos will defend Zen to the death, and there's also a side that views what Ari did as a completely reasonable response to something Zen did especially since she's still close friends to Mouse, Henya, and Michi. I highly doubt people will stop bringing it up.

Haruka should stream the pokemon world championship.

>>103448013
Well how lucky is he that he gets to watch the show and erase the image he has of it.

>>103448026
>views what Ari did as a completely reasonable
Yeah, the objectively incorrect side.

>>103447986
timeout by mono

All you need to know is that 8 sides with Ari.

We had a good run o7

this is the final xvsj...

>>103448026
Until someone gets Sinder'd and you do a full 180 on them.

>>103448117
No bakers, only trolls o7

Finally, we will be free

>>103447915
Why would /lig/ not care about ari? She is a large indie with tons of friends in the indiesphere, including a bunch of former vtuber adademy members as well as vchiban and others. She's collabed eith whoreclan, with shoto and the exnijis, and so on. she absolutely has feelers out giving her access to what should be roughly the entire /lig/ indiesphere outside of a few groups like girlsfc. Why wouldnt they like her?

>>103448026
it's already getting stale anon

I hope Meicha is having a fun vacation. I miss her. I didn't realize how much of a force of positivity she had on my life.

>>103448178
i miss her gock

>>103448178
she's a good girl

>>103448134
Hopefully

Last

we still alive

I miss Blockbuster. I would go there with my sibling and pick a game for the week every now and then

Last for Harucock

>>103448236
Now we're dead

Last for real

Pet Schizo was right about EVERYTHING!