Thread 103446983

The repercussions are still felt even to this day

*crinkles*

I'm surprised anyone could stay or join after that besides the 3 idiots

>>103447030
4 guys, Denauth was already signed on for months before the Selen fiasco.

genuinely so funny how their downfall was entirely self-inflicted
The "boycott" really didn't start until this happened, everyone was still coping with "le management bad but the talents dindunuffin wrong", their collective CCV didn't take much of a hit even after Selen's termination, right until this happened

>>103446983 (OP)
Yes, the board is still fucking unusable for days each time something happens in nijien. Who knows when it's going to stop, if ever.

>>103448046
>why is board talking about a burning trashcan, this never happens on Four Channel Dot Org!

The best move for them after the termination notice was to shut the fuck up and let the drama die down. After over a full year, the talents are still hurting from the aftermath. Even Rosemi, who is now graduating, never got back to 500k subscribers.

>>103446983 (OP)
I seriously can't think of anything that could top that, in terms of PR disaster.

>>103448366
They haven't gone full Wactor yet, so it could always be worse.

>>103446983 (OP)
Holy shit. I watched legal mindset dissect and react to this. That’s how much of a shitshow this was. Calling it a shitshow is generous to be honest. But yeah. It was bad

>>103446983 (OP)
I loved watching the chat turn from supportive to angry as the stream went on.

>>103448572
legalmindset is a retard grifter that will say whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear
I remember his analysis of the selen situation was essentially "she totally can and should sue nijii for the slander they did against her"
blatantly retarded take, and was clearly just him realizing which side public opinion was mostly on, and then just saying "you guys are SO right, actually even more right than you think"

>>103448779
I remember there was some 2view lawyer who was also Canadian that reviewed the Selen Fiasco (everyone called him Canadian Lucius Malfoy kek) but since he wasn't a grifting memelord nobody remembers him

>>103447030
What other options do male vtubers have?

>>103448567
Wactor did objectively worse things but they are still better than nijisanji in the PR department

>>103448572
>>103448779
Didn't people find out he doesn't have a law degree and fled to some SEA country to facilitate underage sex tourism?

>>103451078
I dunno but I'm convinced most successful youtube content creators are sociopaths

>>103448046
As opposed to normal days, when kekfoot makes 30 threads a day

>>103450877
First stage production

>>103451380
I do know he was pandering to anti-vax MIGAs before he started leeching off vtubers.

>>103448046
No. This is when the board is at its most fun. I only got into vtubing because of the drama high.

>>103451078
AFAIK, he is an actual lawyer. There are allegations that he has tens of thousands in unpaid debt, and that he tried to groom a teenager in Florida.

>>103446983 (OP)
In the end though, she had a negligible impact on their stock price. Guess Riku won in the end

>>103452193
JP branch is too big and established to fail but EN has been a non entity since the black stream

Notice how you can't even see the blackstream on this graph?
Because the truth is, the blackstream only exacerbated problems that were already there. The branch was already in a freefall decline even before that

>>103452757
Let's be real, losing your two top female talents weeks apart was always going to be a major blow but there was always the chance for at least a partial comeback. Black stream pretty much made the entire branch radioactive for life

Did Nijisanji have any presence at AX this year? I know last year they had the canceled concert and a booth nobody visited

In a way, I'm grateful for Elira and Riku to have done it. This stream set in motion a chain of events that led the Western Vtubing world onto a path away from the Japanese idol crap and made it reexamine core tenants like PL/relationship status taboos and overthrow them if they were shown to be retarded.
Had the let Selen graduate under amicable terms you would still get banned on /vt/ for mentioning a vtuber's alts/PL.
So thank you Elira. You might be a huge(in every sense of the word) backstabbing bitch, but your greed and hatred have made the entire industry a better place in the end.

>>103452757
If this is your graph, could you make a version without linear interpolation between debut/graduation points? It's kind of difficult to parse with all these slopes when it could just be horizontal and vertical lines

>>103452757
Anon the graph is only of total people in the branch. Why would it have the black stream in it? Nobody left that day.

>>103450905
This. At least they lie low now and then

>>103451078
It's not that severe it's just that he works as like a guide to help you file for immigration to SEA countries not doing much actual lawyering

>>103453150
Sometimes a little accelerationism goes a long way.

>>103447228
6 to 8 months before it happened