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Anonymous No.103466578 >>103466984 >>103470275 >>103470912 >>103476218 >>103487708 >>103488380 >>103492382 >>103502389 >>103513243 >>103513301 >>103516544 >>103519488
Fun fact
NijiEN lost TWICE number of livers in span of 3-4 months than HoloEN this year, and they are 1 graduated liver away from matching the number of graduated Holo talents in total since August last year

And sisters will say they are still fine and HoloEN will collapse first
Anonymous No.103466984 >>103467088 >>103467092 >>103467757 >>103471479 >>103484918 >>103484967 >>103487704 >>103488380 >>103493054 >>103493557
>>103466578 (OP)
I'm actually surprised that Wose is leaving. Like didn't niggas pull out a poll and she is one of the livers who would rather go down with Niji ship? She even said it was due to management disagreement, which is interesting
Anonymous No.103467088 >>103469413
>>103466984
The general sentiment for a while now was that if she hadn't left yet for whatever reason then she was going to stay there until the end (ie Neversemi Leavinglock)
This change came out of fucking nowhere
Anonymous No.103467092 >>103471364
>>103466984
>She even said it was due to management disagreement, which is interesting
Why is that interesting? They saw how well that excuse worked for Holo and decided to use it themselves.
Anonymous No.103467757 >>103467801 >>103476159
>>103466984
Either the goal will completely shift to cater to JPs and will never set foot on America again, or Niji is on its way to become male-dominant agency and full speed on catering to fujos which will not be compatible to some Niji girls I can imagine
Anonymous No.103467801
>>103467757
I'm down with either.
If the girls are only focusing on their men then there's no overlap and we don't have to worry about their rabid fans.
Anonymous No.103469413
>>103467088
With hindsight it's become clear that she only stayed because of overture and an expectation that the selen shock will blow over, and now that overture is done and the selen shock is still plaguing nijien, she's finally decided to throw in the towel
Anonymous No.103469585
Graduation conga is still ongoing right? Last I checked we still had more bodies trying to flee the ship.
Anonymous No.103469991 >>103470943 >>103470984 >>103485048 >>103493665 >>103516112
a visual of just how many nijien has lost compared to holoen just 3 away from having the same number of members.
Anonymous No.103470275 >>103470715 >>103476062 >>103478214 >>103479598 >>103484900
>>103466578 (OP)
holo en lost their heaviest hitters while niji en has mostly lost irrelevant 2-3views. come back when the big niji boys start leaving.
Anonymous No.103470469 >>103478093
One more meatwave coming up.
Anonymous No.103470715
>>103470275
What big Niji boys?
Niji has big vtubers?
Anonymous No.103470912
>>103466578 (OP)
The fact that only bots and clippers watch most of the ones who remain in both branches speaks more to their downfall.
Anonymous No.103470943
>>103469991
remember when gura et al were graduating and people were like, see holo has just as many graduations as niji!!
i think niji legitimately looked at that and was like, damn, we can't let holo get ahead of us
Anonymous No.103470984 >>103475941 >>103493665
>>103469991
>Niji has lost just over 1/3rd of their talents
>Holo has lost just over 1/5th
Damn. Nijiniggers having a rough time.
Anonymous No.103471364
>>103467092
Same words, different meaning. With Holo, those words mean "management does not want you to be angry at me for having chosen to leave," but in Niji it means "management are a bunch of spiteful and vindictive cunts who would rather burn the company to the ground than allow me to be even marginally more successful than they want me to be"
Anonymous No.103471479
>>103466984
>Like didn't niggas pull out a poll and she is one of the livers who would rather go down with Niji ship?
People were saying that kind of shit about Pomu right up until she announced her graduation
Anonymous No.103471502 >>103475241 >>103488925
I actually saw the "sisters" organizing to send complaints to Anycolor about the women being shafted in favor of the boys. Took a while but enough departures finally got them concerned enough to mass send to the suggestion email.
Anonymous No.103475241 >>103475361
>>103471502
Too late
Should've done it back when they were showering luxiem with half anniversary goods instead of seeding ground to the fujos
Anonymous No.103475361
>>103475241
>seeding
Anonymous No.103475941
>>103470984
Oh, it gets better, and by "better" I mean "funnier": out of eleven waves total, Niji EN has two waves which are down to their last member, with one of those waves being left with someone who hasn't streamed on her own channel in over a year. And they also have a third wave whose remaining members are not particularly likely to remain in the company for one second longer than contractually obligated, due to the company's gross mistreatment of the now-retired member of that wave. And they only have two waves remaining with all original members; one of which hasn't been around for half a year yet, and the other has an asterisk in the form of a member who retired before debut.
Oh, and three terminations, two immediate "graduations" which may or may not have been stealth terminations, and a "separation" which definitely should have been a termination.

Meanwhile in Holopro EN, there are either three or four gens out of either six or seven with all original members (depending on whether or not you count Tempus HQ and Tempus Vanguard as two different gens), and all gens have at least two members remaining.
And of the three gens with any retirements, only one has more than 2 retirements, with 2 of that gen's 3 retirements being at least partly for medical reasons. And of the other two gens, both have exactly 2 retirements each, but one of the retired members is only "mostly" retired.
And no terminations, unless you count the manager who tried to turn himself into a Mary Sue but ended up being more of a Poochie.
Anonymous No.103475964 >>103481407
https://streamable.com/2qgth0
>Sexpest The org
Anonymous No.103475977
I truly hope the Clique stays together as an irrelevant group though, don't want them leaving their 2434 containment zone
Anonymous No.103476062
>>103470275
>the big niji boys
Did you just step out of a time machine? Luxiem is a shell of what it used to be.
Anonymous No.103476159
>>103467757
They already bank on fujos which is why Luca the sexpest still hasn't been punished. Aster, the other Nijimale exposed as a sexpest, was terminated just because he was never as popular as any of the Luxiem fags and they finally decided putting up with him wasn't worth the trouble anymore.
Anonymous No.103476218 >>103476253
>>103466578 (OP)
Gawr Gura was literally the biggest vtuber in the world
Anonymous No.103476253 >>103478675 >>103494820
>>103476218
lol
lmao
Anonymous No.103478093
>>103470469
>Driving out females while adding new male waves, eventually reaching a full male roster, maximizing cash milking of Nijisisters
Ssg Riku, I wasn't aware of your game
Anonymous No.103478214 >>103478238
>>103470275
Ike literally disappeared months ago because of depression. He was the most popular one outside of Vox.
Anonymous No.103478238 >>103478277
>>103478214
Didn't they fire his ass and nobody gave a shit? Or was that Aster? Hell if I know which of these idiots does what
Anonymous No.103478277
>>103478238
It was Aster, and he was never big. He streamed to less than 200 CCV even when Negrosanji was still in its prime.
Anonymous No.103478675 >>103479154
>>103476253
>B-but mah dead subs.
They lost gura years ago when she stopped streaming, they lost nothing with current gura leaving aside from normies overblowing the issue.
Anonymous No.103479154
>>103478675
Gura transcended so that she was still EN's cash cow.
A void that will be difficult to fill in, with HoloEN dropping 50% YoY.
Anonymous No.103479598 >>103480650
>>103470275
I'm pretty sure Pomu was once the queen of NijiEN and Selen was the one who brought attention to NijiEN in a positive light (before the shitshow hit her). Also let's not forget Mysta and Ike and that trans dude who is now bigger than ever
Anonymous No.103480650 >>103484415
>>103479598
>Dude
That's a woman who was forced into a male gen and then got fired for sperging about her pronouns too hard
Anonymous No.103481407
>>103475964
I've never watched enna outside the "dont kill the truth" clip but Jesus christ does she always talk like that? what's wrong with her voice?
Anonymous No.103483020
What is Rosemi's indie account so I can follow her there once she leaves
Anonymous No.103484415 >>103488598
>>103480650
How much of it was forced? She is a genuine gender special and those fujo-trannies love that type of environment to live out their "gay" fantasies.
Anonymous No.103484900
>>103470275
The losses were truly negligible.
Anonymous No.103484918
>>103466984
It's because she was too good for them (morally), but seemed completely disinterested in leaving. Obviously fans can't read her mind, but it's not like she was unaware of what was happening around her.
Anonymous No.103484967
>>103466984
People expected her to jump ships for years, when it never happened, they stopped believing in such possibility.
Anonymous No.103485048
>>103469991
I wrote >>100459455 this a while back but here's an updated %

>HoloEN/StarsEN grad. rate: 7/32 = 21.87% (78.125% retention rate)

>NijiEN grad. rate: 17/45 = 37.77% (62.22% retention rate)
>NijiEN grad. rate if including the original NijiEN (aka NijiIN): 20/48 = 41.67% (58.33% retention rate)
Anonymous No.103487704
>>103466984
people will always say they are staying up until the moment they decide to leave
i don't know why anyone takes "i am staying forever"-type statements seriously
Anonymous No.103487708
>>103466578 (OP)
This is not fun or a fact
Anonymous No.103488380
>>103466984
>>103466578 (OP)
looks like the merge has been decided now
Anonymous No.103488598 >>103513771
>>103484415
Apparently it was enough for her to crash out and said "If only im a real boy"

Sisters thought "he" was joking or there were mistranslations since it was said in Japanese. But now it turned out that she really was a tranny (or an NB? god i cant with the gender shit) and Anycolor didn't really want one of their males to announce that they like to be female in a full-male gen, especially Luxiem 2
Anonymous No.103488925 >>103492474 >>103494228
>>103471502
True sisters, which are in majority and in literal sense, will not complain to Anycolor until they fucked Vox or any known boys up

Hell they would probably be okay with females leaving the company since those livers will only interfere with their fujo minds, and the livers who have large male audience already left with them so they are unironically negligible

Nijisanji is starting to part ways with the mix gender ideology and they realized that fujos are the real money-makers. The numbers did not lie, and Kuzuha is still the only Niji guy who managed to get 2 mil subs. Their new business practice is clear, if Hololive got money from lonely males, then Niji should get money from lonely females! "Wow it was that simple huh" Riku thought
Anonymous No.103492382
>>103466578 (OP)
Oof
Anonymous No.103492474
>>103488925
Kuzuha is popular because he is a pro gamers with rizz. Its mixed demographics none of the EN guys are particularly skilled.
Anonymous No.103493054 >>103493291 >>103493543 >>103493797 >>103494685 >>103497069 >>103502939
>>103466984
Anybody who actually watched her would tell you this was a long time coming and if anything should've happened far sooner than it did
>Was very obviously hit genuinely hard by Selen's termination (despite a lot of retards trying to claim otherwise)
>Almost everybody else she was truly friends with in the company left
>Constantly griping about how stupidly hard it is to get perms for anything, the latest one being fucking Scrandle of all things
>Literally hasn't had her own manager for months because her previous one left and the company didn't bother assigning a replacement
Anonymous No.103493291 >>103493491 >>103493858
>>103493054
The fuck
I thought they said things were improving
Anonymous No.103493491
>>103493291
Losing dead weight IS improving
Anonymous No.103493543 >>103493797 >>103501263
>>103493054
You seem to be in the loop. Who's next?
Anonymous No.103493557
>>103466984
You are? Management is shit and they take too much money.
Anonymous No.103493665 >>103494643
>>103469991
>>103470984
So Hololive needs to add 4 more members, then they win
Anonymous No.103493797 >>103493826 >>103501263
>>103493054
>>103493543
I'm curious too. I remember hearing everyone say Reimu was set to graduate and wasn't hiding that fact from the public.
Anonymous No.103493826
>>103493797
Reimu has been graduation baiting since like the beginning of this year
Anonymous No.103493858
>>103493291
Things can be different for different people.
Anonymous No.103494228 >>103494979
>>103488925
>will not complain to Anycolor until they fucked Vox or any known boys up
They won't complain for that either. Look how fast they abandoned Ike and Hex
Anonymous No.103494643
>>103493665
Calling it now. New homo Gen announced at the concert.
Anonymous No.103494685
>>103493054
>this was a long time coming and if anything should've happened far sooner than it did
isn't that what the other replies are saying? that it was due to happen at any time and yet it took a needlessly long time to happen, hence why so many people changed their mind on rosemi ever leaving?
Anonymous No.103494820 >>103495467
>>103476253
>gigi: 19k views and 11k likes
Vs
>saba: 63k views and 13k likes
this isn’t the win you think it is…
Anonymous No.103494979 >>103502965
>>103494228
Ike literally said he was gonna fuck off, not like they could do anything about it
Hex was the new kid on the block who thought "damn, Vox is farming the fujos well, I wanna piece of that" and dialed the pandering up to 11, resulting in the insane fanbase he had. Part of that mob is still loyally watching him
Anonymous No.103495377 >>103498469 >>103508322
Can someone explain me what a merge would accomplish?
Their managers already are japanese, they barely get any special merch, only those living in Japan have access to the 3D, their western fan base is a minuscule fraction of their viewership, and so on.
On the other hand, nuking the EN branch would do nothiing but announce to all the stakeholders that their plans to expand beyond Japan failed once again.
Anonymous No.103495467
>>103494820
it's an unarchived stream and half the length, that's pretty good actually
Anonymous No.103497069
>>103493054
>fucking Scrandle of all things
How would you even get perms for Scrandle? Whose permission do you need to look at pictures on the internet?
Anonymous No.103498469 >>103508322
>>103495377
They wouldn't have to put away any resources specifically for EN to create an illusion of giving a fuck about that branch. When the merge happens, the ex-ENs would have to fight for the same resources that JPs get.
Anonymous No.103501263
>>103493543
>>103493797
I'm only in the loop for Rosemi herself, so in my completely uneducated opinion I think Aia is next.
Anonymous No.103502389 >>103502433
>>103466578 (OP)
crazy that fulgur willingly wears that pube stache
Anonymous No.103502433
>>103502389
He graduated, anon. He doesn't wear anything anymore
Anonymous No.103502939 >>103509241
>>103493054
If she was obviously hit hard by the selen shock why did she wait 18 months to graduate?
Anonymous No.103502965 >>103504241
>>103494979
>Ike literally said he was gonna fuck off
Yeah and if the fujos had any loyalty to him they would've burned down anycolor over it
Anonymous No.103504241
>>103502965
we're working on it man, these things take time man
Anonymous No.103508322
>>103495377
What >>103498469 said. Closing the EN branch saves money on payroll and other overhead, even if all livers not already in the graduation queue are merged into the main branch.
Think about it for a moment - which non-vtuber employees in Niji EN would avoid being laid off at a branch merger, other than UMG Harry? Which livers' managers would be able to avoid being made redundant? What tasks does any member of EN staff do ("speaking English just a little tiny bit better than Meloco" doesn't count) which aren't already being done by JP staff members?
Anonymous No.103509241 >>103510697 >>103511677
>>103502939
Because of contracts. The livers cannot unilaterally terminate their contracts without help from lawyers; and depending on the circumstances, they might not be able to unilaterally terminate their contracts even with help from lawyers, and would instead have to negotiate graduation terms with the company (or just wait it out as Kunai did)
Hex made his decision to graduate on the spot, either right after the termination or right after the black screen, and even then he still had to wait 6 months before being allowed to leave.
Anonymous No.103510697 >>103510769
>>103509241
Didn't stop vivi and kunai from terminating their contracts within the year, what makes Rosemi so different?
Anonymous No.103510769 >>103511296 >>103511695
>>103510697
It's very likely Niji would try harder to keep an actually decent liver they've invested into already than some random fucks who;ve been there less than a year and aren't showing much growth
Anonymous No.103511296
>>103510769
So she took the 30 pieces of silver? Not exactly a ringing endorsement you seem to be making
Anonymous No.103511677
>>103509241
>Hex made his decision to graduate on the spot
This I find suspect as hell. With how incredibly flamboyant his complete support of the black stream in full.
My bet is that he sent in his papers the instant he saw everything go to shit and that the black stream wasn't having the result he wanted.
After all, it worked so well when he made one for Zaion, why isn't it working this time?
Anonymous No.103511695
>>103510769
>It's very likely Niji would try harder to keep an actually decent liver they've invested into
Oh, like Selen or Pomu?
They didn't invest shit.
Anonymous No.103513243 >>103513317
>>103466578 (OP)
I'm not very interested in comparing graduations and moreso just predicting if there's any future graduations left. I think all the girls who wanted to graduate from Myth and Council have done so by now.

Who's left from Niji EN that will likely graduate?
Anonymous No.103513301
>>103466578 (OP)
Let's be real, it's just because people actually give a shit when a Holo leaves, while if a Niji leaves it's more like "Oh, it's Tuesday already?"
Anonymous No.103513317 >>103513359
>>103513243
Ren is the only one I can realistically see leaving.
Everyone else is either to spoiled by management (Alban, Sonny, etc.) or would wither and die outside of the nijibox (Finana, Maria)
Anonymous No.103513359 >>103513401
>>103513317
What abou Scarlet?
Anonymous No.103513401 >>103516220 >>103516299
>>103513359
She and Aia are locked in. They don't even interact with the rest of the branch anymore and as long as Luca is kept away from them, they don't have Aster to worry about anymore.
Anonymous No.103513771
>>103488598
unnΓ€med is F2M
Anonymous No.103516112
>>103469991
Crazy how 4 nijiens were terminated
Anonymous No.103516220
>>103513401
which is funny because that can also be a reason for why they are leaving because they stand to lose very little by doing so
Anonymous No.103516299
>>103513401
People said that about Rosemi because she didn't leave for the longest time. What makes you think they will keep Scarlet or Aia if they catch on that Riku abandoned NijiEN and their time is up after their projects are done.
Anonymous No.103516544
>>103466578 (OP)
vtuber 1st law of thermodynamic
for each hololive debut and graduation there will be X2-3 nijisanji debut and graduation
Anonymous No.103519488
>>103466578 (OP)
ACCELERATE