Thread 103476123

>>103468989
>>103467895
This fucking branch, man.

>>103476123 (OP)
The leaked messages in question

not wrong dough

>>103476123 (OP)
mucho texto

oh look another inspect element thread

>>103476123 (OP)
>>103476132
You dumbasses will fall for anything huh?

>>103476275
>>103476286
The fact sisters are getting defensive makes me think it's legit

>>103476286
this is the only real leak btw

>>103476123 (OP)
LOL unironically source or fake?

Apparently Enna is a PDF
https://streamable.com/2qgth0

>>103476384
I will now subscribe to Enna

>>103476384
>a PDF
I hate this zoomer algospeak so fucking much

>>103476384
just say the word faggot.

>>103476439
i like algospeak, it makes it very easy to identify people who dont belong. its the modern equivalent of rawr xd and the people doing it, just like the old days, are so retarded they dont even realize that they are glowing like a beacon.

>>103476123 (OP)
On the of chance this is true LMAO Alban is gonna get torn to shreds

>>103476123 (OP)
Why would they do that? Did they think leaking this would make Selen look bad?

>>103476384
>PDF
kys kid.
also.
Wtf was Enna smoking Even Millie was trying to shut her up.

Once again, Elira is evil

>>103476439
I like all of the creative ways they go about saying suicide

>>103476384
Subbing to her right now, based af

>>103476545
I doubt this is real because you'd have to be an utter retar- wait...
>>103476567
That's the million dollar question everyone assumes it was actual cp

>>103476545
Never underestimate how spiteful a latina can be.

>>103476384
Not strong enough of a redeeming factor for me to forgive her.

>>103476123 (OP)
Alban better have gotten at least a yacht blowjob from riku himself with that hardcore corpo glazing

>>103476439
tiktok and its consequences on the human race

>>103476494
Alban is literally in the right here. What’s private should remain private, and what’s public should be public. It’s just professional courtesy to ask for permission before sharing a discussion that was held in confidence.

Bro are you guys really trying to make up new NIJISANJI drama

it's a literal corpse man

>>103476275
>>103476244
>>103476367
Just like aster am i rite?

>>103476596
That's hot

>>103476656
Why are you so defensive?

>>103476646
>the other organs want me gone leak
>We want selen gone leak
so she was just stating facts?

Wasn’t there an inspect element arc not too long ago?

>>103476123 (OP)
what absolute ratfucks and to think people were demanding apologies for Kotoka and claiming she was innocent
piece of shit cunt

I inspected your mom's element

Leak more Reimu, expose Rosemi as the backstabbing cunt she is.

>>103476722
bro, we knew kotoka was a bitch since the zaion situation, what are you smoking

>>103476761
find a single vtuber with anything bad to say about Rosemi

>>103476656
Then it shouldn’t be an issue if this gets discussed, no?

>>103476761
Rosemi could have caused the tarrifs that destroyed most companies and i would still love her for how funny and original she is.

>>103476706
Whether the leaks are factual or not is irrelevant, since they can easily be altered or taken out of context. Selen is undeniably at fault for disclosing information that was meant to stay private. Internal conflicts happen, but handling them publicly is unprofessional. They should be addressed internally or through proper legal channels.

>>103476123 (OP)
Any REAL leaks would include the rest of the "all out war" conversation.

>>103476123 (OP)
Kotoka can't write like that, so that's really all you need to know if you wonder wether this is fake or not.

>>103476832
yes Niji has a spotless record as far as handling internal problems go

>>103476832
You're so right. We should go back in time and try to kill her and make it look like a suicide attempt. She can be /vt/'s Jeffrey Epstein

>>103476832
bugman mindset

>>103476832
this post >>103476132 is private tho
as private as these dms >>103476123 (OP)

>>103476855
can't write like an obvious ESL?

>>103476857
Then she can pursue legal action, that’s what professionals do. Didn’t the tranny take that route, and everyone ended up satisfied?

>>103476275
Have you considered the fact that every single NijiDiscord leak so far has been proven real?
Even the Aster ones?
The track record is there.

>>103476855
She has all the time in the world to check her writing in Deepl before sending in

Are people really eating up this high school drama over what seems to be a child care taker who still has weird photos of children on their phones?
wtf if wrong with you guys

>in 2025
>Nijisis still playing the "it's fake" card
I WILL REMIND THEM

So Reimu or Wose? who's leaking these?

>>103476855
Didn't she flash her insane english profiency before? She even aced some kind of N1J1 equivalent on stream

>>103476932
So we've moved from "It's not real" to "it's real but nobody should care about it"

>>103476936
>expecting honesty from nijiniggers

>>103476932
Wrong thread Anon this one is about Niji having yet ANOTHER discord leak proving they did infact want selen gone

>>103476942
>>103476855
https://wikiwiki.jp/nijisanji/Kotoka%20Torahime
Yeah, Kotoka has a fucking perfect command of English, at least in writing.
She knows what she's doing with words

>>103476898
you're so stupid and stinky stfu

so scarle isn't one of the good ones?
I'm honestly shook

>>103476123 (OP)
The way this leak is ostensibly an attack on doki while painting niji in an even worse light makes this extra believable since we know from the black screen that they're just that stupid. Could still be a clever fake made by someone pretty smart, but who would?

>>103476868
If her suicide attempt was due to workplace harassment, then the proper course of action would be to pursue legal action. That way, everyone involved can be heard in the appropriate venue, the courts, and all stakeholders, including the fans, can be presented with the truth. The ironic part is that despite all the damage Selen caused, she hasn’t provided any evidence to support her claims. That’s not only unprofessional but also malicious.

>>103476939
there's no way Rosemi did this but it would be hilarious if she did

So who leaked it?

>>103476123 (OP)
I know this is not fake
Why? Because if you're a Nijisis, it's not THAT bad of a leak.
>Oooooohhh it's confirmed that my chuuba also hate Selen whom I already hate because she destroyed NijiEN
Just watch. After the "it's fake" crap is done, they will then say shit like
>based Vox for speaking truth
or some shit. It fits.

>>103476932
>High school drama
>A literal crime that would land you in prison

>>103477002
Probably Reimu, funny answer is it's Rosemi

>>103477019
Yeah, fags need to ask the "Who benefits" question.
Remember, it was posted in /nijien/ >not in a catalog thread
>not in /#/ the drama general
Kinda shows that there's a chance the leaker didn't think it was a big deal

>>103476596
And that's why hololive does not have an ES branch

>>103476820
Honestly that would've been pretty funny.

>>103477019
Yeah, all this leak confirms is that Selen probably did feel like she was bullied, and it confirms that her bullying didn't come just from management but from the talents as well, which any rational person already inferred.
Also, Chinese people generally think bullying is a good/socially acceptable thing, so it doesn't affect their view of the talents at all.

>>103477019
>say shit like >based Vox for speaking truth
They literally did, check the original post in /nijien/

>>103477090
Between deciding not to endeavor in ES regions and also avoiding (thus far) a Korean branch, Cover must’ve been paying close attention to what happened in Niji.

>>103476984
>The ironic part is that despite all the damage Selen caused, she hasn’t provided any evidence to support her claims.
Why would she?
The only thing she wanted was to leave, not to "attack the company" or whatever.
She's out. She got what she wanted.

No matter how you try to spin it, Selen is at least partially in the wrong here. If she were a responsible adult and a true professional, she should have brought this to the proper venue, where everyone, including the fans, could be presented with the full truth. The fact that she didn’t directly accuse anyone, yet somehow there were 'leaks' with no supporting evidence, makes her actions appear childish.

I just did a tarot reading based off the vibes of this leak and it told me that Scarle is the one leaking all of this because she's such a Pisces. It explains so much

>>103477155
I hope she Pisces on my face

>>103476286
You do realize that your post is having the opposite effect, right?
>OP's pic: Everything looks correct
>your pic: misaligned text fields. weird UI spacings
>incorrect profile pics

>>103476384
Keep abriviating it because it's making the sisters mad af

>>103477002
It was me

>>103477147
>>103476984
you really arent actual humans

I bet its not Rosemi or Reimu.
It's too obvious.
It's definitely someone who hates Reimu though.

>>103477147
Selen doesn't have to prove anything to anyone, sis. You're free to file a lawsuit against her for defamation speech if you feel like it

>>103477155
Next you'll say mercury is in retrograde of some shit

>>103476123 (OP)
It feels weird seeing people not in management calling for someone's firing. Like, it's not your place. Reeks of people thinking they're more important than they actually are.

>>103476123 (OP)
>black company full of snakes
what else is new

both sides were in the wrong here

>>103477140
>The only thing she wanted was to leave
We judge by actions, not words. The fact that Selen released an unapproved MV while still part of the company shows her immaturity and unprofessionalism. It’s clear she doesn’t intend to leave quietly, despite what she claims. Everything she did appears to have been premeditated.

You know what I'm gonna make a left field guess. It's Ryoma or Fulgur. Fulgur acted as basically the one who tard wrangles them and actually has a conscience. Ryoma probably got hate internally after going off on aster

>Rosemi, the one person who kept her mask on through all this bullshit and never once broke character
>leaking random shit
this isn't a spy thriller movie

How can we find a way to blame this all on Finana?

>>103477241
>We
are you a clique member?
otherwise this >we is gay and you should breathe water

>>103476596
Genuinely the most bitter and toxic people I've ever met in my life have been Latina women. So much fucking gossip and backstabbing. They think real life is a telenovela.

>>103477202
kek

>>103477219
Why are you making things up? In a good company, everyone can voice their concerns, not just about policy changes, benefits, or personnel. It just so happens that the group collectively agreed that Selen was problematic. Maybe she was right about some aspects, but the way she handled it was detrimental to the whole group and self-serving.

>>103477219
It's Niji's MO
Feed the talents biased narratives and make it so that half of the sentiment against the targeted talent is other talents.
They did it with Zaion too.

>>103477208
Vox?

>>103477315
>Good company
So when is Roa coming back to streaming?

>>103477262
>flip phone opens
>yes this is Wosemi
>now that I’m weaving they’ve all outwived their usefulness
>krill them
>flip phone closes
>MGS3 soundtrack

>>103476384
Erm... Based?

>>103477219
>not in management
The clique is the management

>>103477147
Alright which Niji staffer wrote this?

>>103477147
hmm yes today I will fire my top 3 employee for the unprofessional crime of getting mad when I take a year to clear a project she invested thousands in

>>103477353
>time to kick ass and piss
>and I'm all out of piss

>>103477353
KOJIMA!!!!!!

I just can't believe these are grown ass women.

>>103477262
>>103477353
Da wose with the plan

Based Vox for dropping trvkes o algo

>>103477353
nigga stop leaking the secret theaters

>>103477451
>ISREAL
ISREAL

If these are real, then post caps of everyone shittalking Zaion during her suspension and after she got fired. Or better yet grab a much clearer screen of the famed "All Out War" cap.

I just want to see if theres a chance these are actual leaks

>>103477219
because her behavior was affecting the entire branch and everyone else was catching strays from Selen's MV thing

>She broke the rules
>The rules that were made up the day she posted the MV, specifically to fuck with her
You've been trying this bullshit for literally YEARS now, there's nothing even left of nijiEN and you stupid bugs will still keep seething until the heat death of the universe

Remember them trying to peddle they needed the ex-organs permission shit lol

>>103477472
That shit, I'd LOVE to see how that one went down.

>>103477472
that's not happening because pomu, like everyone else besides zaion, thought she deserved getting canned

>>103477486
Pretty sure that rule existed prior to Selen, but regardless, she did not get final approval to post the cover. Even if you follow all of the rules, if you don't have final approval, you are not allowed to post it. This isn't just a Nijisanji thing, but a corpo thing in general. Bae had to delay her cover of Mind Craft because management needed more time for approval. Did she try to kill herself over it? No.

>Make a song including everyone in NijiEN to leave on a friendly note
>absolute thunderfuck cunts go SHE DIDNT ASK FOR MY PERMISSION REEEEE to get it pulled down

>>103476984
I don't like Doki because one fuckface would spam anti-holo takes with a crying Selen image for years, and I don't like her preferred kind of FPS games.
But fuck niji anyway.

>>103477472
They are not real. Stop falling for obvious shitposts.

What a petty bunch of snakes
But honestly, none of the names here surprise me
they probably all love sniffing their own farts

>>103477582
pomu never said anything of the sort

>>103477472
>Or better yet grab a much clearer screen of the famed "All Out War" cap
Not just a single cap, I want a video of them scrolling through that entire conversation to see who's all involved

glad to finally have proof that it was the bullies that had it taken down as another way of bullying her
every leak always proves the worst is true about them

>>103477451
What the hell

>>103477628
This is why all corpo must burn

Was alban on the list of possible bullies?

>>103477647
>I don't like Doki because one fuckface would spam anti-holo takes with a crying Selen image for years, and I don't like her preferred kind of FPS games
You realize that there are much better reasons to dislike her than that, right? Doki/Selen literally enabled anti-Hololive behavior from within NijiEN for YEARS and only switched sides once she got fired
>b-but friends with mumei/zeta/whatever
Literally a grift

Petra needs to get out of there, let the toxic cunts have the company all to themselves (and eventually they'll turn on each other too, they always do)

>>103477681
That'll end up backfiring, because it'll become more apparent they were talking about the male audition announcements.

>>103476123 (OP)
Kotoka seems like a massive fucking bitch tbdesu.

Isn't Alban friends with Regis, who is friends with Doki?

>>103477315
I don't know what company you've worked at where it's reasonable to ask for someone to be fired and discuss sensitive details in a discord chat

>>103477582
actually it has come to my attention that sayu is a massive amaburi fan so I'll stop anting her for the next 69 days, gomen

>>103476123 (OP)
This is obviously fake. Vox is Selen's best friend as he stated during the black stream.
He would never plot against her.

>>103477647
Fun fact. That guy didn't even watch her.

>>103477241
The facts that iluna and xsolei perms weren't checked until *after* this blew up shows that management was either incompetent and sleeping on the job, or malicious and they were intentionally dragging their feet hoping for Selen to get impatient and give them an excuse. Either way they're the cause of this.

>>103477698
He's always been one of their golden boys and he caters exclusively to the chinese fujos.

>>103477647
>I don't like Doki because one fuckface
Stopped reading there

>>103477769
>That guy didn't even watch her
he was literally proven to have a Selen, and later Dokibird membership

>>103477794
Oh I'd love to see your proof of this
because the instant Selen left, someone started coming around doing the exact same shit but using Fuwamoco/Enna/Mint for their avatarfagging.

This is the same company where Vox got personally shown direct communications between Selen's lawyer and Anycolor's lawyers.

>>103477732
>and only switched sides once she got fired
Maybe, but Pomu always liked her and Doki has a good heart so it's good she came around.

Still 0 proof these are real btw

>>103477822
you don't understand, he had to THOROUGHLY review the sensitive legal documents to ensure no harassment was taking place

idk, working at a workplace where I could collectively decide with my coworkers to fire someone big brother style would be pretty fun
I have super rizz so I'd definitely be safe

Crazy how close the clique came to winning it all. If Doki’s ceiling fan was actually able to support her weight we might have never heard a peep about any of this. Things would have continued business as usual.

>>103477784
i'd say it's much more on the "incompetent" and "Japanese people being completely oblivious to how the world works outside Japan" than actual malice. malice takes being competent.

>>103477822
>looks at private documents he isnt legally allowed to see
>Cries about being recorded privately when the recording proves he's a piece of shit
god he's pathetic, I hope the artist gave him that ugly chinese peasant model because they thought so toom8tvm

>>103477902
it's like my Dangle Rompers vidya gaem
Who will we turn on NEXT?

>>103476123 (OP)
>Kotoka and Vox actually wanted a termination to happen, knowing the shitshow that was Zaion's termination
Holy shit these people are evil

KEEP LEAKING, REIMU

>>103477848
I remember when fagoons got pissed at this leak then went on to spam the board with tons of fake leaks btw. OP is the same guy who made this thread

>>103084813

>>103477784
It’s possible some of the “livers” actually pulled perms last minute.

>>103477764
Wait real? If you have a source, that's based

This is probably fake. Someone tried spreading another leak a couple of weeks back, but got called out for all the messages having the same timestamp. They probably realize their mistake and decided to wait a couple of weeks before trying again
>>103078341

>>103477959
This is real and Doki is a Chinese money grubbing scumbag but it doesn’t excuse the shit niji did to her.

>>103477959
no proof picrel is real either

>Reimu leaks all this shit as an olive branch offering to Doki
Bitch, Doki's gonna ignore you, what's the point

>>103477959
>>103477986
you're not being very subtle. space out the posts more and don't post the same image.

>>103477738
Kinda hilarious how people tried to defend her backstabbing Zaion by claiming she was ESL but she clearly isn't, she knew exactly what she was saying in her own black stream

>>103478004
Considering the previous leak >>103477959 >>103477986 , it doesn't look like they're trying to get on Doki's good side.

>>103478004
>Reimu leaks
That's fine by me, I like girl pee.

>>103478013
This kills the sincrocuck

>>103477959
It was literally /nijien/ making the fakes.

>>103477732
Isn't the fact that she's part of Niji a valid reason for some people to dislike her?

>>103478043
Like clockwork, keep seething sis lmao

>>103478004
It’s more likely to trigger Doki’s PTSD. Seems like an attempt (lol) to get back at her and niji one last time before she fades into absolute irrelevancy.

>>103478049
>It was /NijiEN/ faking leaks to attack their own corpo
Fagoons think anyone buys this

>>103477732
>Doki/Selen literally enabled anti-Hololive behavior from within NijiEN for YEARS
how?
She's never been anti-hololive.

>>103477732
>literally a grift
Nigga please, learn what your buzzwords actually mean

>>103477732
Yeah, once a niji always a niji. And Mumei is literally retarded so I’m not gonna take her judgement into consideration.

>>103478068
Well at least we know it's definitely not the vshojo social media team, they all graduated last week.

>>103478089
>always a niji
Ogey SHITster

>this is supposed to look good for niji
are nijifags retarded?

>>103476900
ok I'm waiting for the proof

>>103478068
>>103088233
>>103088653

Correct if I'm wrong, but all of this is because she wanted to put everyone's picture in a MV? Holy shit

>>103478146
Yes, anon.
That is the "permission" she needed. The ones management knew about for over a year.
Because of that, she needed to be publicly humiliated and then terminated.

>>103477353
kek

>>103478142
That "leak" is clearly a joke compared to the fagoon dramafag ones

>>103477763
What’s wrong with discussing company policy and staff changes over Discord? The leadership in America got caught talking trash about Europe on some boomer messaging app. It’s already 2025, grandpa.

>>103476123 (OP)
Nijishitji is literally being kept alive by drama posts like this. Just let this shit corpo die. Phase Connect already overtook them for views in the West. It's over. It's finished. They're done.

>>103478033
Funny how fagoons and sisters are both fighting the leaks but also each other. It’s like a mexican standoff between a retard, a femcel, and reimu.

>>103476123 (OP)
>vox, supposedly selen's friend, going "burn her, quarter her, then electric chair please"
>just because of the music video fiasco
If this is real the dude is a bigger piece of shit than I imagined

>>103478173
>every single post within 1 minute
yeah sure it's real

>>103477902
>fire someone big brother style
nijien is bb19 and elira is paul
enna is raven

>>103478189
True. Vox should have stopped talking to Selen after she bullied Scarle and Reimu

>>103478173
>it was just a prank, bro

>>103476384
Based bird
>PDF
Holobrowns not sending their best lol

HAPPY 2.5 YEARS OF NIJISEETHE

>>103478146
>I'm putting everyone in my MV, it's already out now btw
>"Woah, wait a minute, I might need to double check upper management is okay with putting ex-members in, can we take the vid down until we're certain?"
>-ACK!

>>103478200
Oh, so Selen somehow bullied Scarle from a clearly fake screenshot, but Aster is magically innocent of all charges despite multiple victims and the company immediately doing damage control?

>>103478211
>double check a day before release
>not bother doing that a year in advance
Management are lazy assholes

>>103478232
>multiple victims
Show me evidence of sexual harassment now, Twisty. It's been a year. Stop being a race traitor too

>>103478052
Well yeah that's why I hate her. If she wasn't holoan she never would have joined niji

>>103478248
>race traitor
She’s literally the only nijiwhore who isn’t a nigger worshipping slut

>>103478176
Your argument is that american politicians are really fucking stupid, and so it's okay for any company to be really fucking stupid too, because it's [current year]?

>>103478232
You think Aster ever tried anything on Selen or does he think he’s too good to pork fat chicks?

>>103478268
lol
lmao even

>>103478146
crazy innit

>>103478278
Proof or kill yourself cunt

>>103478232
Actually, how on earth is it even bullying to crack a joke about a sponsor?
Hell, how on earth would that even be their first interaction? It happened over a month in.

nijiEN and its consequences on vtubing etc. etc.

>>103478245
>Management proves Selen only sent the video in to be checked the day before
>"Hurr they had a year"

Who bullshit will you make up to try discrediting the evidence?

>>103478176
>What’s wrong with discussing company policy and staff changes over Discord?
well, for one thing, it can get screenshotted and posted online. HR exists for a reason. whatever online chat you use for work isn't meant to be a season of big brother.

>>103478295
LMAO

>>103478295
Watch any stream where her and Vanta are together

>>103478312
Except management is supposed to be working with her the entire process and was in charge of getting perms the moment she announced her intentions of doing it.
You've been trying this angle for over a year now and nobody's bought it.

>>103478206
>holo out of nowhere
rent free

>>103476384
I remember that, good times.

>>103478312
They didn't prove shit.

>>103478329
>Except management is supposed to be working with her the entire process
Shame Selen wouldn't let them because of her management hate boner. She hated them so much that she tried to make them work on Christmas Eve and when they got back to her on Christmas day, she had a meltdown

>>103478329
How come it didn't end up being an issue for Bae, when she had to delay her Mind Craft cover because of management permissions?
Oh right, because she didn't try to kill herself after the first day

>>103478248
So why was Aster "separated?"
They were allegedly doing investigations, so couldn't they have pronounced him innocent?

>deflecting to a Holo
How the mighty “innovators” have fallen.

>>103478146
This just shows how stupid and greedy Selen was. If all she wanted was to show appreciation, she could have released it without monetizing it, and it wouldn't have needed to go through the IP verification process. She ended up wasting over a year just because she was greedy.

>>103478338
Who else is making constant niji threads?
Guess it could also be phasecucks but they and holobrowns are pretty much the same people.

>>103478377
probably because it was delayed for a couple of weeks instead of over a year

>>103478430
Selen's was only delayed a day, and we have timestamped screenshots to prove it.

>>103478409
The fuck? They need permissions to even play demonetized games.

>>103478396
Twisty herself said Aster has the ability to defend himself but isn't doing so for some reason. So this retarded argument is moot

>>103478409
>without monetizing it
And fuck the corpo out of their cut?

>>103478409
I'm sure she was salivating for that 2% cut

"Leaks" aside, the fact that, after a year and a half, some people are still hyperfocused on the MV as if it were the only issue, and not just the last straw, makes clear to me that they didn't get it and probably will never get it. They'll continue to have their "black stream" moments, be dumbfounded by the backlash, and cry about it afterwards

>>103478329
Selen never worked with management. She always did things on her own. She still does, and it pisses off her staff now too.

>>103478435
This is the only real leak

Niji managers are running damage control in this thread, say something nice to them :)

>>103478452
Please understand. They think that if they somehow "prove" that Selen was a liar, all of the fans and Pomu will immediately come back.

>>103478451
Apparently she was rich off of that 2% cut and bragging about it to her coworkers.

>>103478319
>it can get screenshotted and posted online
And you can be terminated for that, which is exactly what happened to Selen.

This reads like a larp. Look at Alban's post, this is just an average /vt shitpost about selen, I am pretty sure the guy just looked through the archives and took one that fits well in the screen. I remember when twisty/scarle leaks came out we literally had forensics team comparing discord styling, avatars of the users, writing styles, I would rather wait for more confirmation

>>103478176
Are you being retarded on purpose?

>>103478466
Uh oh, fagoon melty

>>103476123 (OP)
No need to comment on this or “fake or true”. Look at the results, they are a dying mess of morons 3views. The ship is only sinking faster and faster.
Not even vshojo imploding fixed shit. Doomposting is everywhere, the only reason they are still around is fagzumi not wanting to give something negative to investards becaise with buyback+dividends any crash of the title will fuck him for billions again.
Everyone our agreed it’s ass in there. At this point any accusation will stick, and that just proves how fucked they are.

>>103478496
If it's a larp, they did a fantastic job with the details. Everything from Kyo's annoying line-by-line speaking style, Hotoka sounding like she just edited shit out of chatgpt, and vox sounding like a complete narcissist.

Alban's is the only surprising one, but the only reason it's surprising is because the only people who watch him are chinese fujos, so nobody can verify it.

>>103476123 (OP)
>This needs to be remembered every time the phrase "Selen loves Nijisanji" is used to soften the blow on us
Is this trying to imply that management was desperately trying to convince the members that Selen loved Nijisanji so they shouldn't fire her? KEK RETARDS BELIEVE THIS

>>103478440
They needed permission because they don't own the IP, genius. For anything that doesn't involve monetization but uses Niji's IP, there is a pretty clear set of guidelines that everyone, including clippers and fan artists, bases their permissions on.

>>103478541
>OP continues fellating himself all night
As egotistical as his oshi

>>103476123 (OP)
Hey retard
If you check any of the actual leaks of their discord servers you'd see that they all have roles and different names. They're not white

>>103476123 (OP)
>>103476132
So it turns out that Selen was in the wrong all along and apparently this wasn't the first time either. She went ahead and did things before some of them were ever contacted by management. Which when you look at the timeline and how she didn't give management much time meant that she did not give a fuck, but did her best to act like a victim all the same. You can't do this in any corporation and you can't even do it as an indie, not just legally but it's a really shitty move that will get you a bad reputation.
Don't believe me or think I care about NijiEN? Okay I will debut as an indie tomorrow and include all the top 10 indie vtubers in my debut intro. I'll have Nimi, and Dooby, and Saba, and Doki, and Mint, and Ironmouse, Shylily all those whores. What permission? That doesn't matter, I'm doing it for THEM don't they get it?
If you don't understand how that is extremely narcissistic and shitty, then you're delusional and clouding your judgement by hating Nijisanji.
Selen/Doki is a shit person and a liar apparently. Why would anyone take her side except that they are also just as bad.

>>103478451
Oh, definitely. Didn't she have a stream where she begged for money because she was something like a hundred thousand short?

What's with all the seething sisters, did something happen with Nijisanji again?

>>103478544
I think the implication is that Selen would be telling management that she loves nijisanji in meetings about her misconduct and management would relay all that information to the clique.

Remember that Vox and Elira were aware of the letters that Doki and her lawyer were sending to management, and that management was even passing that stuff off to the clique to look over.

>>103476984
Why would she? Nijisanji rolled over belly up and gave her free credit and reputation over this entire incident that boosted her next career. Black screen antics anyone? lol the corpo just kept on painting themselves as the bad guys thanks I guess

>>103478609
If you needed proof it was real, just look at this thread.
They only get this desparate when it's something real juicy.
>>103478587
NijiSEETHE

>>103478609
It turns out Selen was a grifter all along. She still hasn't released any proof. Meanwhile, the leaks show that she was extremely disliked by her coworkers for being a grifter and a prima donna obsessed with money.

>>103478628
>Selen would say she loves Nijisanji during meetings with management about her behavior
PFFTTTT
>Selen sent letters using carrier pigeons to communicate
BAHAHAHA

>>103476275
We know there is a leaker at least since someone posted Krisis on here a full month before they were even announced by Niji.

>>103478541
You forgot to mention Reimu, being a snake spiteful latina whore in there.
>Whenever you speak with her next could you ask her about these messages...

This was said seemingly in the context of Selen having provided some kind of a apology.
>This apology does not feel honest nor does it address our concern properly

The only thing that alcoholic pedo enabler is good for, is to get fucked in the ass.

>>103478587
>Didn't read the posts
>Claims it defends his bias
Pathetic

Ain't no way not cause the contents implosible but that its long and not full of errors.

>>103478587
>Selen/Doki is a shit person and a liar apparently.
This has been known. It’s also been known that the clique is real, they are evil, Niji is a black company, and that EN is a bunch of talentless hacks that drop leaks because it’s in their indie-backstabber dna.

We have learned nothing new.

>>103478563
>inb4 the next leak in a couple weeks will have colored names

>>103478636
What was so bad about the black screen? They said that she betrayed their trust and that was pretty much it. Her antics were far worse and there is good evidence that she is a liar and manipulated the situation. Even this thread and these supposed leaks exonerate the others for acting reasonable in response to her actions. An abuser threatening suicide and screaming "but I did it for you" doesn't make them an actual good person. Dokibird will always have this cloud hanging over her head for the rest of her career. Exonerating herself is what she would gain from taking it to court.

>>103478653
>Grifter
How is she more of a grifter than any other vtuber?

>>103478587
If Niji management whipped out its small cock in public you would be the first to work that shaft and balls.

is there a single thing that selen actually did wrong
i struggle to come up with one

>>103478609
Nijisisters never stopped seething at Selen, what do you mean. The fact that Selen alone gets more ccv than their entire failing branch combined makes their yeast infected vaginas twitch with anger.
And yeah, 2 more graduations. Reimu and Rosemi so of course they gotta blame Selen for it again

please protect Selen from nijisanji dark forces. especially kotoka.

>>103478719
She relaxed around the clique

>>103478563
>>103478699
There are multiple discords. The one with colored names was a private one set up by Elira for everyone to gossip and share porn. The one in the OP is the company one, which is why it looked different and everyone is way more professional.

“Professional” as they can be talking about backstabbing a coworker.

>>103478653
All the DMs show is that the people there are the ones willingy sitting in front of the class, next to the teacher and willing to throw people under the bus for any infraction.
These are the people where in any other workplace, would be avoided like a plague by everyone else. The ones called Kyle or Joe who sit in the cubicle next to you and run to the boss to report you for daring to take a bite out or your sandwich 10 minutes before its breaktime cause "Its against le rules".

>>103478701
Black screen was timed to coincide with her stream. Those 3 never stream at that time ever. Talk about going out of your way to make a hit piece and being publicly ridiculed for the obvious bullshit you tried to pull off. It was a masterpiece in disaster PR Niji is always good for a laugh.

>>103478641
I don't watch Nijisanji. I am being objective here. Selen lied and was in the wrong. That is a fact.
>>103478679
I actually did read the posts and the logs. If you read them too you would understand that it implies that Selen was in the wrong. That is an inescapable fact.
>>103478685
I don't keep up with all the drama with Nijisanji, just what gets posted occasionally. So I don't have the benefit of knowing her entire history. I'm just commenting on what is very obvious from what has been posted.
Even if Nijisanji and the entire branch are evil and dirty, so was Selen. It's a case of two wrongs don't make a right. I don't see the issue here.

>>103478749
Reimu leaked the company server in her first month of streaming. Its all colored names too

>>103478719
The only thing I've seen is that she was overworked and made a lot of mistakes.
She was always working to the point where she rarely ever spent time with the rest of the group and wouldn't even notice new waves until they debuted.
And all of this was because Niji wouldn't let her hire assistants. Now she has like 12-13 people working under her and she's much, much better.

>>103478459
Funny enough, I believe it was the exact opposite. Since Selen got excluded from the Elira-adjacent power structure, the only way any coordination between her and the rest of the branch could be done was through the management. And this pissed people off, partially because said management sucked at their job.

The only reason I think this might be a real leak is that it's in line with all the other attempted Doki slander where they try to show she BROKE THE RULES but actually just reveal the other talents were petty evil narcissists

>>103478758
I always thought that it was a bit of a stretch and desperate cope by fagoons. You're not really convincing me otherwise. Who the fuck cares that it was a black screen, and why does it matter it coincided with her stream if nothing she did prior pointed at as sabotaging matters?

>>103478719
Publish the cover without final approval.
>b-but muh perms!
Doesn't matter. Shouldn't post it without final approval. Hololive operates the same way, and covers have been delayed at the last minutes due to needing more time for final approval, but you don't see any of the Holo girls killing themselves over waiting a day.

>>103478768
so you assume Selen never went to hospital then for your self ranting to have any wings like a crazy person?

>>103478721
>The fact that Selen alone gets more ccv than their entire failing branch combined
>2k CCV on a birthday stream even with bots
LMAO

>>103478788
But it does reveal that she broke the rules and didn't give a shit about anyone else. So ...

>>103478768
Explain what she lied about, then.
This should be good.

>>103478796
I think his point is that Selen trying to kill herself was on her, no one made her do it. And he’d be right about that.

>>103478801
kek

>>103478811
>Management says I will not be allowed to host anymore tournaments
>Hosts multiple tournaments after this

Hmmm

>>103478801
And that’s still more.

>>103478805
would you give a shit about anyone in that toxic ass work environment?

more fake screenshots huh
man remember when we got the original aster ones and the masterful detective work in validating them?
but /vt/ is so dead and only filled with schizos so this shit just gets mindlessly consumed. all the actual autist who built this board culture since /jp/ left after the hack

>>103478796
Nobody knows why she went to the hospital. Others have pointed out you can be put under observation just for saying you want to die. In either case she milked it, had a very speedy recovery, and then milked throne for $$$ a few days after being released.
Things get posted here, and people remember, then eventually it starts adding up into an ugly picture.

>>103478834
Didn’t refute his point

>>103478791
your like always forget that she already had legal representation. Imagine if Niji kept professional through this situation instead of PR antics like the black screen. Even Riku did the right thing earlier with the checkerboard apology but lo and behold the livers did something retarded lol pure entertainment. Imagine trying to spin that incident as good you'll have an easier time sailing a yacht with holes in it

>>103478719
>did wrong
1. she's a woman
2. she's a chink

>>103478801
>2k ccv
>its actually 4k

Assuming those are real. Whoever leaked it made a grave error.
You know what would have made people unite for once?
If the leaker had posted the livers trying to get Aster out.
Selen, huge drama, I get it. Spicy.
Aster? NOW if THOSE message had been leaked, that may have been actual good PR for once to see that the Livers and sane fans were all against Aster. Maybe get a scratch of good will back instead of making them all look like they have a notepad with them at all times to report if anyone has broken rules. Cause this achieved is make livers look like pic related.
Assuming its real cause Kyo is on there and he had no problem to talk Aster when he could have spoken about Selen a long time back. Heck even Mint could have if she is such a threat but here she is, constantly vibing with her.

>>103478811
It's in the leaks you guys posted. Some entire branches were not even asked about it. Then she told others that they didn't want to be in it, lying, and hiding the fact that she didn't even care what they thought before posting it.

>>103476123 (OP)
It can't be fake because Pakistani and Malaysian sisters wouldn't be able to write such decent English.

>>103478777
she was too business-minded for her role.

>>103478805
Nobody gives a shit about asskissing snitches in a workplace. These are people usually at the bottom of the chain who get pushed around or avoided like a plague by the entire staff. In Niji, they just managed to form a collective cause they all are rats.

>>103478866
Um... you're chinese.

>>103478834
Yes? You're projecting peak pissing in the coffee because your boss is a jackass behavior. That stuff will get you in jail. If you sign a work contract then you must adhere to that contract.

>>103478848
O now all of a sudden you are a master of what exactly happened? lol that is where the crux of this entire matter depends on. Selen with her lawyer was coached to be silent while documentation / correspondence gets settled with their side of management. Livers get a hold of it and brag about it online for the entire world, start to do stupid shit like the Black screen, JP management being silent at the wrong time.
Lol and you can't figure out why Doki became as big as she did. Like I said Nijisanji let her roll over the entire EN branch because they are an unprofessional company. Even your attempt at spinning things is ham fisted.

>>103478866
Petra BTFO

>>103478867
>Max never actually reaches 4k
>Average is 2k even while botted
Fagoon cope

>>103478857
You guys were already sperging out at the fact that they weren't saying anything. Let us dispense with the bullshit and be honest about this. Most of you would have reacted the same no matter what they did.
Anyone that doesn't understand that much is a fucking imbecile.

>>103478866
Why do you hate milord and lucuck fans?

>>103478946
Still gets more CCV than the entirety of NijiEN...

People be forgetting we all know Niji rules are bullshit.
Reimu at the end of her TEW LP even said she doesn't know what the graduation rules are cause they are so unclear from management about overlapping and time. Heck, she doesnt even know if her videos can stay up cause of the rules either and hopes managements just respect that she wants them to remain up.
Niji and its rules. Yeah right.

One thing is clear about this whole incident: Selen thought she could strong-arm everyone by bypassing them and going directly to management for permission. It’s now pretty clear that the reason her permissions were delayed is that many Nijisanji talents don’t want to be associated with her because she’s a horrible person behind the scenes. She should have released her MV without bothering anyone, but instead, being a woman, she decided to throw a hissy fit because her MV flopped.

>>103478146
kind of wild a single petty vid take down cost them millions of dollars lmao
cancelled concerts, image in the shitter, mass graduations, empty expo kek

>>103478946
Cherrypicking like usual.

>>103478932
>Nobody knows why
>now all of a sudden you are a master of what exactly happened? lol
Maybe you're just a retard. I think there are more people that will think you're a retard, even if they try and take your side. Not really a good argument and they probably don't want to be associated with you.

>>103478947
>You guys were already sperging out at the fact that they weren't saying anything
Fucking rightfully so

>>103478979
I don't think Nijisanji's failure of holding a concert had anything to do with Selen that year. The evidence turns out they are incompetent.

>>103478968
Selen out menhera'd Rushia

>>103478982
>big event streams
anon...

>>103478914
because it impacted them personally? she did it to them, so doesn't the snitch thing go for her too?
>no because um um double standards umm umm umm reasons and umm change the subject
cool

>>103479003
That concert failed and was cancelled cause of a bomb threat. Source: Sisters.

>>103479003
Customers fucking off en masse had everything to do with Selen that year.

>>103479015
Threat to whom? Nobody bought seats

>>103478995
And I just want to clear up any misunderstandings, so we're all in agreement on that. So we can move the fuck on from fake arguments that nobody really cares about.

>>103479027
It was real to them, okay?!

>>103479010
The "concert" was advertised literally 2 minutes before it went live for people who reached the end of the stream, anon.
We'll see more concrete numbers once the edited version goes live later this month.

>>103479009
Fishing too far here anon. I know this is bait but let me assure you for you own future attempts, nobody will legitimately buy anyone being a bigger Menhera than Rushia.

>>103478982
This is the face of indie vtubing? Grim.

>>103478987
Assume she was suicidal and had an incident
Laugh no she is so obviously faking it just ignore the hospital band
You do know as a professional business they could have just quietly forced her termination right? They had control of her accounts and just had to say she is on temporary hiatus.
The fact you are so dismissive about mental health is the core reason why Doki won.

>>103478968
But she did it for THEM!! DONT YOU GET IT!! She gave her WHOLE for THEM and this is how they repaid her KINDNESS!!!

>>103479033
Nah, nah-nah-nah. You're full of shit. You act like were supposed to be happy that Selen was taking ten thousand kilometers worth of dick up her ass at the behest of the management and the clique

>>103479022
Sounds like you are forgetting the fans who did buy into the concert and even flight tickets only for the rug to be pulled under them in the last week.
But sure Nijisanji is a professional company lol

>>103478312
>Management proves
only single digit IQ retards would take management's specifically selected couple of messages cut out of context as proof
but keep arguing, someone will probably leak the full logs another time and you'll cry more then too

>>103479047
Speaking of concerts, this will always be so fucking funny to me.
>Nijisanji concert published on the front page of the channel involving all of the girls from lazusydia minus selen/pomu
>camripped bootleg on a completely unrelated channel of only selen/pomu still gets more views

>>103478968
>>103479076
Psycho nijiturds

>>103479089
Clearly, the numbers of these fans were insufficient.

>>103479089 (me)
treating your most die hard loyal fans this way. oof

>>103479089
BUT THE BOMB THREAT

>>103478982
>New outfit +birthday stream
>5k average
Holy grim

*is empty*

>>103479118
G R I M

>>103479104
>cut out of context
The time-stamps were there clear as day, fagoon

>>103479113
yeah yeah Lelouch was too powerful they were quaking at the mere thought lol
>>103479110
they were humiliated leading up to it but with everything set up why cancel the show?

>>103479050
Mental health isn't real you bitch. You don't believe it is and you don't care about it until you can weaponize it. People choose to commit suicide because they want to die or because they want some kind of attention. Those in the former category tend to succeed. Those in the latter category have multiple options including no-risk options such as telling professionals you want to die, then you will also be held for observation.

>>103479015
>>103479113
LELOUCH
AAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE

>>103479108
I’m surprised they bother leaving /nijien/ just to defend their organs from a “fake leak”.
Oh wait, no I’m not.

>>103479140
>Mental health isn't real you bitch
Huh
>then you will also be held for observation.
you mean like how Doki was mysteriously absent for exactly 1 week after that christmas, coming back with a hospital band?
Or how Doki was mysteriously absent for exactly 3 days of no activity from Jan 17th to 20th?

>>103476286
Wtf is her problem?

>>103479140
exactly. That's why the fact during the incident the fact management thought to larp as Selen was a red flag, or at least thats why that rumor became as powerful as it did.
But still as a company you can't take a stance to dismiss someones claim of a mental health episode. Especially when you are the source of their conflict and WERE ALL PARTYING IN JAPAN at the time. You stupid fucks still can't figure out from an objective 3rd perspective why everything looked bad for Nijisanji and they dealt with the entire situation in the worst way possible.

>>103479160
At this point more than half of them don't even watch Niji or any ex-Niji. They come for you because you're annoying retards.

>>103479107
Speaking of this retard spamming this low effort Holo bait everywhere, this will always be so funny to me
>Concert focusing solely on Doki without ex Holos
>11k views

>>103479114
Pretty organic for a popular indie chuuba. I think Nimi and even Saba will eventually normalize around that range. Now let's stop the numberfagging.

>>103479132
I'm not even a doki fan you seething retard, I just think the clique and their fans are stupid cunts, because it's an objective observable fact

>>103479197
the ex-holos cope again?
If you watch that video, you'll see why it has terrible views.
The dude wouldn't shut up and rarely ever looked at the screen.

>>103479189
>nijiniggers care more about /vt/ than their own organs
For once, I believe you.

>>103476123 (OP)
Wow those guys are evil

If NijiEN is so good then why do livers keep graduating?

>>103479140
>Mental health isn't real

>>103479219
>Uhh it was a bad video
Top tier cope. It is the only video of the full concert

>>103476132
>bring nothing good
What the hell she sacrificed the most for the branch

Every single person mentioned here, doki included, seems like an unbearable cunt to deal with.
How did Pomu end up with assholes like that? I'm glad she's out at least.

>>103478701
>Dokibird will always have this cloud hanging over her head for the rest of her career. Exonerating herself is what she would gain from taking it to court
If you took your head out of your circlejerk, you'd realize that this is bullshit. Nobody that matters gives a shit about what happened a year and a half ago, not the sponsors, not the other Vtubers she has collabed and continues to collab with, not the various corpo she has had contact with (such as v4mirai, who paid her watchalongs a while ago). The only ones who still have a cloud hanging over them are NijiEN's fans and orbiters, and you wouldn't convince them anyway. She would have absolutely no advantage in turning back the clock and starting a long, expensive, and stressful lawsuit against a million-dollar company on the other side of the world.
I could also turn the argument around. There is no doubt that the incident cost them a fortune and torched the reputation of their EN branch, probably forever. If she lied and has no proof of what she said, as you have been claiming for a year and a half, why haven't they taken her to court? It should be a very simple case, and they certainly have the money to do so. Yet nothing has happened.

>>103479234
I wouldn't bother with him. Most of the sisters that can formulate any defense over the entire situation HAVE to take the argument that Selen was lying but still avoid reminding everyone that Nijisanji fucked up their response to the entire thing.

>>103479181
It's not real you dumbass. It's fake.
>you mean like how Doki was mysteriously absent for exactly 1 week after that christmas, coming back with a hospital band?
Which means you don't know why. Not because she literally slit down the street in a bath and was luckily found before it was too late.
>>103479186
And nobody knows why, or even if Selen or her lawyer suggested or agreed to it. Just going dark would have been a bad move, but in all your speculation you're ignoring that you just filled in the blanks with made up bullshit.
Go to court and put it on public record. That's the only way, and otherwise you will always have to desperately try to convince people. It is more than a little bit suspicious that she does not pursue such an easy slam dunk case. But I guess we all have to believe that she is just that merciful.

>>103479234
No, really, you can trust Random Nijinigger 3000 over the lengthy study of the human mind and brain.

>>103476123 (OP)
FAKE NEWS

>>103479238
That's not true at all.
Especially since we know she's releasing the full, extended, polished version soon for free on her channel.
>>103479255
Eh, You're believing too much sister nonsense.
There's a reason that every single person outside of Nijisanji who's worked with her in the past or present sings her praises about how good she is to work with and are constantly inviting her back to things or accepting commissions.
Well, aside from the scammers at least.

>>103479255
Get bent /lazu/fag

>>103479292
Why do you always believe that Selen has to pursue legal action? She wanted to get OUT of Nijisanji amicably and they wouldn't let her. They wanted to make an example out of her, and they got fucked in the ass for trying it. So badly that in fact the entire incident wasn't Negligible unless you assume all of Nijisanji EN IS Negligible.

>>103479234
Because it's made up. It's not health, it has nothing to do with a medical definition of health. It's also not mental, it has nothing to do with the brain. Mental health disorders are made up by old men voting in a committee.

>>103479319
>Especially since we know she's releasing the full, extended, polished version soon for free on her channel.
No, she's not. She's releasing two songs, that's it.

>>103479341
Hey, really quickly, is rape real?

>>103479341
> it has nothing to do with the brain
Are you thinking with your ass or what.

>>103479292
>Go to court and put it on public record. That's the only way, and otherwise you will always have to desperately try to convince people. It is more than a little bit suspicious that she does not pursue such an easy slam dunk case. But I guess we all have to believe that she is just that merciful.
well in this case the situation has been consistent with her MO.
She just wanted to move on and leave Niji behind. The terms of her negotiations were to be immediately cut loose, and they were ghosting her on that until she showed that she was serious.

She didn't want money. She wanted out. And in a way, she got it.

>>103478701
>Dokibird will always have this cloud hanging over her head for the rest of her career.
hundreds of companies blacklisted nijisanji and even publicly rebuked the company. Doki has had more sponsorships than all of niji EN combined since the black screen
nobody believes you, nobody likes you

>>103479341
>it has nothing to do with the brain
Except it literally does

>>103479330
/lazu/ should not exist. Fractured sisters who believe there is good in Niji while seething at every awesome collab Mint has with Doki.

>>103479335
She does not have to pursue legal action. But if she had a real case then she ought to have pursued legal action. Many have done so for far less.
Suppose that Ironmouse does not pursue legal action again vshojo or Gunrun, that would be her choice, but it would make her look suspicious and leave open the possibility that she doesn't want the truth to be part of the public record. It's the same for everyone, not just Selen.

>>103476123 (OP)
maybe if you post this shit 3 more times people will eventually believe it

>>103479341
Sexual harrasment of women never happens in Nijisanji. Mental health episodes do not exist they just want a vacation badly.

>>103479319
>That's not true at all
A singular YouTube search proves you wrong
>She's releasing it on her channel later!
Immediate cope

>>103479365
Rape only exists because women CHOOSE to not consent, if they'd just consent it wouldnt be a problem, so you see it's really their fault, it could all be avoided if they changed their way of thinking
I'm a male vtuber btw

>>103479206
>Fagoon starts numberfagging
>Selen's numbers are still laughable
>"Guys, let's stop numberfagging"

Run back to your dying general

>>103479341
I know realize I was debating with an idiot all along. You humiliated me you win this round stupid dumb as fuck keyboard warrior. o7

>>103479219
>The dude wouldn't shut up and rarely ever looked at the screen
Sounds like a fagoon to me

>>103479402
>Suppose that Ironmouse does not pursue legal action again vshojo or Gunrun
The situations aren't even remotely the same. Gunrun could be taken to federal court for the charge of charity fraud. The plaintiff would be the state, not Ironmouse. Why would she need to unnecessarily dox herself?

>>103479365
Yes.
>>103479369
You can look it up, none of the DSM committee members know anything about it.
>>103479375
No, it doesn't. You can look it up. It's like anyone could create a right-wing disorder, and you can "find it" in the brain, you literally can, and you can probably find some genetic disposition for it too. By definition mental disorders are made the fuck up on the basis of voting by people that don't work in science or on brains.

>>103479470
>It's like anyone could create a right-wing disorder
Go back to /pol/

>>103479402
Why the fuck would doki sue a JP company for anything less than an open-and-shut case worth tens if not hundreds of thousands. Having a case doesn't automatically make it wise to pursue legal action.
Vshojo is a much different situation and it will be pretty suspicious if we don't start getting filings in the next few months.

>>103479463
They don't need to be the same. Your limitation is in thinking that one dispute being different to another dispute doesn't make them both disputes with legal consequences. Both are only clarified by being settled in court.

>>103479402
You sue someone so you achieve your desired outcome. Selen just wanted out and Nijisanji after fucking everything up terminated her, she got what she wanted and was ready to move on, still being silent. THEN NIJISANJI GETS A DEVILISH IDEA

>>103479448
Should we start posting the great and mighty Vox of the golden wave not having a single 4digit ccv this entire year?

>>103479362
...Wrong concert, sister.
>>103479402
She flat out doesn't want to extend the drama. She's never mentioned them once. She just wants to focus on her career and leave that part of her past in the past, overwriting the sad memories with good ones.

>>103479470
>>Yes
Huh, that’s odd, since that was also made up by some dudes voting to make it so.

>>103479341
Thank you for your analysis professor.

>>103479402
>>103479262

>>103479514
Please no numbers they are not our friends anymore

>>103479495
I don't use /pol/. You're just having a breakdown because I'm revealing the truth and you've never heard it before. But you can look it up and look up criticisms of the DSM by other professionals. You will find that what I am saying is true.
Many old disorders are no longer considered mental disorders not because of new science or new evidence, but because goals and opinions have changed. You can't change an opinion about cancer or TB and then suddenly it goes away. This only happens for so-called mental disorders. Because they made them the fuck up.

>Fagoon
>Fagoon
>Fagoon
Holy fuck this loser is posting on cooldown lmao, absolutely mindbroken

>>103479545
your opinion is shit when your logic has holes in it. You do know that right? Like stop assuming that a course of action that is a pain in the ass to do is the right choice especially when she doesn't want fiscal reparations.

>>103479524
No it wasn't. Rape is a physical act.

>sisters spending 2 seconds not being obsessed about Selen challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
The absolute definition of rent free if you have to make fake discord logs just to have any shred of an attempt to attack her

>>103479448
>>103479514
I’m just laughing at this thread

>>103479566
Your lot says coronavirus was also made up, you don't have proofs, you don't have a medical degree, you're the one making shit up

>>103479601
Sex is a physical act, you fucking idiot. "Rape" is merely an internal perception of the act based on "lack of consent"

>>103479609
The NDF never sent their best. It was a losing war fans too stupid please understand

>>103479601
Perhaps, but classifying it as rape and criminalizing it was a chambered event by said old men. Therefore, it’s got to be fake.

>>103479595
Reply to the question. If she lied and her lies caused a huge financial and reputational blow to Anycolor, why didn't they take her to court? Going by your logic this the right course of action when you have a case and not doing so makes you look suspicious.

>>103479514
Goalpost shifting in 3,2,1

>>103479679
Uh oh, fagoon melty. Third attempt when?

>>103479811
I guess you've won

>>103479811
Let me guess. All of their charts look botted as fuck
grim

>>103476123 (OP)
Why is kurosanji like this?

>>103479811
Look at those numbers! Zamn!

>>103479646
No, it's a physical act like violence, whether you punch or kick.
>>103479658
Your point is basically that all words obtain their mention through some decision process. That's not incorrect but it is meaningless and besides the point. Illness has a specific meaning in healthcare that does not have the same meaning in mental health, but tries to legitimize mental disorders by associating them with physical disorders and illness.
>>103479632
No, my lot says that the coronavirus was a severe virus that had a lasting impact on much of the body including the nervous system and immune system. Why? Because it's real. It's an actual illness caused by a virus.
Neurological disorders are real too, they are disorders of the brain. Mental disorders are not, at some point they tend to cease existing all together and are replaced by new mental disorders that describe modern behavior. They cured the world of drapetomania when slavery was abolished, funny how such things work.

>>103479811
>Lower than Doki
What happened?

>>103479811
>sister bites the bait and shows his shit numbers
Bruh
How are they so fucking stupid?

>>103479899
>Both at 2k average
Kek, I remember when his mascots birthday made more money than the entirety of Doki's wrestling tournament

>>103479811
>Used to rival gawr motherfucking gura in ccv and views
>now almost a 3view
how does one say GRIM in chinese?

>>103479923
Your pic shows a lower average

>>103479948
>how does one say GRIM in chinese?
Finana

>>103479948
Wi Tu Lo

>>103479885
Trick question, is depression mental or neurological? Why are you trying to draw a clear line between the two?

>>103479920
>Singular male completely mogs Doki's birthday
I thought she had more CCV than the entire branch combined?

>>103479923
>both at 2k average
in what fucking world is Vox at 2k average?
As for Doki, her ccv fluctuates all the time.This one was just two weeks ago as part like 5 of elden ring.

>was selen following protocol?
no
>is selen known for being mentally stable?
no
>did she do one final check with management over the contents of the video?
no
>did selen lie when she said other nijisanji members were calling for her removal?
no
>did selen lie when she said management had taken down the video?
no
>are japanese corporations known for being retarded with permissions?
yes
>is nijisanji known for understaffing, and especially having underqualified staff?
yes
>did nijisanji blow it by leaving things ambiguous about the nature of removal, and not working with selen in an active fashion to give a statement that would not tarnish the reps of both parties?
yes
>is nijisanji management known for not getting things done and leaving talents on read from days to weeks at a time?
yes
>did nijisanji prevent selen from paying out of pocket for a personal assistant?
yes
>were many other nijisanji members making similar infractions and never received any punishment for it?
yes
>were members of nijisanji asking for selen to be removed?
yes

what it boils down to is that selen was never suited to be in a JP corpo, especially not one as infamously disorganized and problematic as Nijisanji who even on the J side has horrible HR or talent managers who will not bother to intervene on interpersonal drama between members which can leak out into the public. thats why we have things like the aster situation. if they are not willing to invest in and have the staff to handle the meltys and mental instability that are very common in any talent industry (but especially vtubing) they need to be stricter about what talents they hire and stop just looking at fucking PL numbers. They need to look into their reputation, their output, their references. They need to look into if this person has a history of having problems like this.

selen is not a bad or untalented person, but she was clearly unwell and had problems with her coworkers. it seems kind of warrented though, and her co-workers are fucking snakey and suspicious as hell to dog on her like this behind her back. It seems that their talent manager even cops to failed steps on their part in caps that have not been leaked, and why they are willing to cut selen a break and have her stay as a talent. The extremely strong negative reaction to this, because they feel that selens actions make the other TALENTS look bad (they didnt obviously - it made the company look unprofessional which it was).

Kotoka is especially suspect with what she is saying here. maybe those rumors about her and Mel are true after all if this is how she acts.

>>103479977
Why is Vox getting mogged by this nobody? What happened to miiilord

>>103479977
>9k peak
>1,900 likes
>somehow barely more views total than ccv days later
>it's like this for all of them
>a goodbye stream has 1500 average over 3 hours
You can't be serious.

>>103479948
>Still completely mogged Gura's superchat numbers
How do we say grim in Holobrony?

>>103480050
Shame he only got to keep 2% of that.

>>103480050
SC cope
Merch game lower than Pipkin Pippa

>>103479977
Who?

>>103480080
VTA dodgers.
They're NijiJP like kotoka/meloco

>>103480101
Why is he replying with a NijiJP then when asked about Vox?

>400 posts for a fake Discord
Not even in their thread did this shit stay the main topic for longer than 20 minutes.
Lmao

>>103478719
be chinese

>>103480156
>>fake dicksword
You can easily prove this claim, right?

>>103480101
>VTA dodgers
>3 Americans and a Colombian
Dramafags aren't sending their best

>>103480170
>>103478563

>>103480216
>he doesn't know about multiple NijiEN discord servers

>>103480170
Retard lmao

>>103480216
That's the elira server, anon.

>>103480216
Now tell me in which chronological order these two occurred?

>>103480216
That's the Elira server, anon.
You know, the one Selen left that was confirmed in Nina's graduation stream?

Now show me a real leak where their names are white. You even fucked up and got one of their names wrong like the brainlet you are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg2XZDyi7Vs&t=5s
You should go watch this and learn how they type too because none of them type like that

Faggots in here don't notice that the fake Discord is always made in a way where no one in the pic wants to defend Selen, and it always paints her as the malicious one that everyone has to deal with, and there hasn’t been any leaked pic showing someone defending her
especially don't know the discord that the leak came out

>>103479976
Go look up the situation with the chemical imbalance these days, don't take my word for it. Noting that psychiatrists are not and never have been neurologists. Then you can look up Parkinsons or Alzheimers or something. You figure out why the distinction is matters.

>>103480313
>You should go watch this and learn how they type too because none of them type like that
>Why don't they type normally in the 4chan larp stream?

>>103476123 (OP)
kotoka ending up being just as much of a slimy rat as everyone suspected is quite satisfying, i think that's really the only thing new to gleam here.

>>103480356
It isnt a 4chan larp stream. Pomu said she felt uncomfortable because "it felt too real" to what they usually type in their dogshit server.

>>103480368
No, she said it "felt too real" as in the nasty shit they were saying were pointing out actual insecurities they had, like how much Pomu was insecure about her dogshit 3D.

>>103480368
>it isn’t a 4chan larp stream
The first message read “hi 4channers, she’s /here/“.

>>103480397
You can cope how its a 4chan larp stream all you want but that mask falls off almost immediately

>>103480156
These threads are not meant to discuss the OP, they are for dokischizo's weekly meltdown while he pretends that everyone else is having one.

>>103480552
So (s)he figured out that no damage can be done to Reimu/Rosemi so (s)he decided to pull out the good old faithful blaming Selen instead?
Classic nijisisters

Everyone is at fault but not their indian staff sexpesting talents

>>103478801
I hate Doki as much as the next guy but maybe try reading?

>>103480270
>The one Selen left
I thought she never joined it because she was shy?

Kotoka really is a snake, huh? This in combination with what Sayu said and her getting Mel fired shows her true character. She cant see a back without trying to stab it, particularly if it helps her fit in with the group better. Also this shit is hilarious with how Kyo basically was blacklisted with indies. He thought he was him.

>>103476939
Rosemi was agent L

>>103479994
We also know through a contract reading that the Niji ENs get completely screwed there: for example an infraction can be made up and the vtuber can be charged whatever as an excuse to delay payment or management can "forget" to pay your taxes and leaving you with potential jail time with your country, also they can use your account and say anything in your voice (see the Selen's tweet).

>did nijisanji prevent selen from paying out of pocket for a personal assistant?
This part confuses me because she said recently--I think it was at the end of the second Doki/Dooby/Mint/Nimi stream--that she didn't have that must work compared to now and that was the reason she was always holding so many events back then. Not sure if she was bored or Niji didn't give her as much events as she wanted but Selen wasn't overworked back then by her own words.

>>103476692
>>103476668
t. Vox

>>103476123 (OP)
tTLDR by ChatGPT
>The screenshot shows a Discord conversation between several NIJISANJI EN members discussing Selen (now known as Dokibird) and the backlash over her including all team members in a music project without prior management approval.

>Main points:

>Kyo Kaneko says the issue started because Selen uploaded the content without asking management first and then lied about it. The takedown was due to company rules, not personal discomfort.

>Ver Vermillion confirms the same thing happened in another case (xsoleil).

>Alban Knox criticizes Selen for leaking messages and exposing internal issues to outsiders, even telling others this might be her last project. He says she “throws Niji EN under the bus” if it benefits her.

>Kotoka Torahime questions whether management really wants Selen to stay after so many issues. She suggests two options: fire her after things calm down or have her make a genuine public apology that is reviewed by everyone first.

>Vox Akuma agrees with the others, saying her current apology feels insincere and doesn’t address concerns. He suggests indefinite suspension, a public apology and retraction, followed by termination as the only reasonable path.

>In short, the chat shows widespread dissatisfaction with Selen’s actions, criticism over her dishonesty, and strong pressure from several members for management to take serious disciplinary action, up to and including firing her

>>103482151
>T. Illiterate retard who can't read a contract