Thread 103503823

They really were running a mean girls clique behind the scenes that people were afraid to criticize for fear of getting blacklisted in the industry
They really were poaching talent from other companies, making them graduate and then debuting for them soon after (if they weren't being ghosted by them right after leaving)
They really paid people off to shill for them and shit on other vtubers, including clippers and 4chan posters, as well as paying off award shows so that only VShojo could be voted on
They really ran scam auditions, paid people a few hundred bucks to shut up about them, and brought in orbiters instead
They really threw Silvervale under the bus and protected Froot (who also didn't donate to charity) when it came to Hogwarts Legacy
They really lied about donating to charity when Ironmouse had raised so much for the IDF and were embezzling funds for other projects instead
They really were hosting drug fueled talent parties and orgies with orbiters and staff which likely resulted in people getting roofied (that's the next accusation coming up btw)
They really scammed people with shitty merch, often time limited too, and didn't even dispatch merch that people paid for this year, leaving everybody out of pocket

People were warned about this company years ago that it wasn't a good place and they were being laughed out of the room, you're not laughing now are you?

>>103503823 (OP)
Where's the no talent no freedom pic

Yeah I know, I fucking told you idiots.

“Weird feeling without concrete proof” stocks are at an all time high

>>103503823 (OP)
>They really were hosting drug fueled talent parties and orgies with orbiters and staff which likely resulted in people getting roofied (that's the next accusation coming up btw)
I was there. Aethel held me down and raped me. I liked it.

Remember how that vshill got so angry his whores got called whores he had to post this webm over a thousand times in "retaliation"

>>103505662
I never stopped doing that wrong boogeyman btw

>>103503823 (OP)
honestly, we already knew most of this was true without firsthand confirmation, but someone who doesnt know will never understand how we knew so its not hard to see why they were skeptical

I suspect they encouraged Magni and Vesper to jump ship too. I recall shortly after the graduation announcement, IM making a comment about them and zooming her model in and saying "I think they'll be just fine"

>>103503823 (OP)
>They really were running a mean girls clique behind the scenes that people were afraid to criticize for fear of getting blacklisted in the industry
>They really were poaching talent from other companies, making them graduate and then debuting for them soon after (if they weren't being ghosted by them right after leaving)
>They really paid people off to shill for them and shit on other vtubers, including clippers and 4chan posters, as well as paying off award shows so that only VShojo could be voted on
>They really ran scam auditions, paid people a few hundred bucks to shut up about them, and brought in orbiters instead
>They really lied about donating to charity when Ironmouse had raised so much for the IDF and were embezzling funds for other projects instead
>They really were hosting drug fueled talent parties and orgies with orbiters and staff which likely resulted in people getting roofied (that's the next accusation coming up btw)
>They really scammed people with shitty merch, often time limited too, and didn't even dispatch merch that people paid for this year, leaving everybody out of pocket
Nobody ever said any of this shit lmao
90% of anti-Vshojo sentiment was just 3rd worlders calling them "whores" cuz they didn't like Vei/Nyanners/Silver/Froot/IronMouse
The reality of what was going on behind closed doors with regards to Vshojo was unironically SO much more interesting that than lazy bullshit >our shitters had been throwing at them since like 2021

The schizos were right all along.
I will never doubt them again.
From now on, I will always listen to the voices in my head.

>>103503823 (OP)
They were laughed out of the room because a lot of what you said isn't even right
1. No? The corpo itself engaging in blacklisting has nothing to do with the talents
2. That one is true and it's funny because Kyo is the one they fucked over
3. So far only one clipper has come forward and said they were told what to do by VShojo. Most people are skeptical about the 4chan posters thing, and you made up the award shows thing.
4. They brought in 1 orbiter in the first round of auditions, not orbiters plural. The second round of auditions is legitimate by all metrics.
5. That's a whole can of worms on its own but they didn't really protect Froot because Froot didn't need to be protected because she didn't do anything to piss people off. In the same way they didn't protect Ironmouse, or Vei, or Zen, or anyone else. This rrat only makes sense if you have it out for Froot specifically and take anything that isn't actively antagonizing her as a bad thing.
6. They didn't really lie about donating to charity on anything except for her 2024 subathon which is the half a million that didn't get paid up. Mouse trusted them because they had successfully paid up in the past, notably for her 2023 subathon.
7. Not really? Mowtendoo was the guy doing drugs and shit at parties and you just added an accusation at the end of that lol. Other vtuber parties have resulted in people getting roofied, but not a VShojo party.
8. FOMO merch is industry-wide, not a VShojo-only thing. The rest of that is correct though.

Ohnono one of them didn't get the memo

>>103508702
I'm getting real convinced this is what happened. The timing on Mysta getting accepted, Kyo getting ghosted (kek), and the Mousey "oh I'm sure we'll see them again *wink wink wink*" that she did every single graduation where that person was either approached or ended up signed onto VShojo makes way too much sense.

>>103503823 (OP)
Has any dramatuber called out any of the girls for being clearly involved in the company's shady bullshit? Or are they all still pushing the idea that “all companies bad” and the talents are innocent little creatures who did nothing wrong?

>>103503823 (OP)
Never liked them because of how catty they were when talking about their superiors. Which im sure their own management pushed them to do that but going along with it is unforgivable.

>>103503823 (OP)
>paying off award shows so that only VShojo could be voted on
This is new.

>>103503823 (OP)
How did Kuro slip through the cracks? Michi had no weight to swing around, Matara didn't either.

>>103508702
>IM making a comment about them and zooming her model in and saying "I think they'll be just fine"
Israel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbZho5ifh5g
All rats are real.

What are the chances that, in the coming years, we learn Ironmouse, Melody, and Kson all actively knew and participated in taking investor/sponsorship money and bussed Gunrun?

>pikamee got poached
She left a real genuine friend behind too..

>>103511910
>Ditched TMSK
>Never once reached out to Magnet's new chat
Bitch is just as wretched as IM. stop letting her squeaky voice dictate her treachery

>>103511910
tmsk is not a real genuine friend, regardless of what tmsk thinks pikamee clearly never gave a shit about her.

>>103511897
it will happen when you neck yourself mizutranni

>>103511910
nijisisters like h*nya don't have friends

So were the rrats of them supposedly trying to poach the two homostars but then going back on their promise and not hiring them after they quit?

>>103513072
probably true

>>103513005
that's not true, some of her longest running friendships are with elira and millie. these are some of the few friendships she has kept across years and multiple PLs for both her and her friends.

>>103513072
two other males, cyyu and i think shoto have also mentioned were approached in 2023 as part of a male gen that eventually fell through.

>>103508811
>>103511878
What's funny is that they're not fine.
Sure Vesper is semi-fine because he still has a small dedicated following but he obviously makes way less money.
Meanwhile the mag is babyraging at cover because he can't pay off his loans, his YouTube channel is dying and he could realistically hit 1 view status.

>>103503823 (OP)
The day that they first showed off those talent freedom ads, I was at least certain that Vshojo probably spent a not insignificant amount of time and money on shitposting on /vt/.

>>103513254
she should have joined niji with them

>>103509288
>t. Gunrun
1. Veibae confirmed this
3. Veibae confirmed the 4chan thing
4. I'm not even addressing this because it's so fucking obvious by now that anyone denying it might be fucking gunrun himself
5. Silvervale confirmed it
6. "they didn't lie except they did"
7. This one is still developing so let's just wait for the inevitable google dockies confirming it
8. "Everyone is doing it. Just ignore that others don't run off with the money"

>>103508811
>Nobody ever said any of this shit lmao
I said half of that shit and got a million (you)s that seemed to be written by chat-gpt. Now I know I was talking to paid shills. Suddenly it all makes sense.

>>103513703
I certainly remember reading you and several other people saying a lot of that shit.
A lot of it was obviously true to anyone who has spent enough time on imageboards. It’s not too hard to sniff out people who are getting paid to post here.

>>103513072
I unirronically believe Saba and Fauna also got lured by sign up bonuses and got screwed over. Would explain why they didn't go affiliate.
I was arguing for most of the shit OP posted so that hunch is probably corrext too.

>say 10000 retarded things
>10 turn out to be partially true
>WE WUZ RIGHT ABOUTS EVERYTHING SAAAAARS

>>103513741
Well senzawa started following Gunrun on twitter sometime around 2024.

>>103513795
The poaching shit was extremely obvious. We just didn't know that VPoachjo talents along with management were the ones doing it and that they were doing it to active talents from other corpos

>>103513795
You can stop defending them, anon.
You're not getting paid anymore.

>>103514647
i will stop when you turdie TVA /#/ phaseretard faggots stop harassing and slandering the girls
how much is zhangfish paying you btw?

>>103514873
Uh oh, VPoachjo melty

>>103515965
don't forget to dilate while watching your favorite "livers", mizutranni

>>103514873
Fucking literally no one mentioned phase in this thread, why the fuck are you faggots so obsessed with, what according to you, an irrelevant company?

>>103505236
Every popular schizo rrat has turned out to be literally true down to the fine details.
This is possibly related to significant numbers of vtubers posting here and leaking information as speculation or rumors.

>fuwamoco really are aliens
That is the next frontier of vtubing, non-human chuubas.

>>103516093
because your retarded filipino shills and doxxfag fans keep harassing and slandering the vtubers i like

>>103508811
>Nobody ever said any of this shit lmao
how new?

>>103516111
Are those filipino shills and doxxfags in the room with us right now?

>>103516133
this thread wouldn't exist without them

>>103516155
Right... only phase has a problem with vshojo, right...

Amazing how all this flew over numberfags heads. Guess they don't know shit about vtubers after all.

>>103516111
but enough about vshojo damage control hires lol

>>103516244
the froot part of the OP outs it as a phaseshill operation
you people are not very smart but i guess fishy jinping gets what he pays for

>>103516111
>eheeheh based please keep doxxing and shittalking le unicorn idol hololive and the chud magaphaserinos
>NOOOOOO STOP BULLYING MY PERFECT VSHOJO VIRGIN TUBERS THEY WOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING BAD LIKE FAKE ILLNESS FOR MONEY, HIDE HER DAUGHTER, POACH FROM OTHER COMPANIES, PAY MONKEYS FROM THIRD WORLDS TO POST ON 4CHAN TAKE THAT BACK NAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOO
lol i shit on every tuber deal with it

>>103513538
All Magni has to do is attach himself to a bug female vtuber but he was a retard and tried it with Saruei. If he managed to get into Limealicious or Matara and Michi circle he would be doing just fine.

>>103511865
Probably saw mow much money Musta had brought in and rushed to sign him without realizing he hated the sisters KWAB

>>103516333
Right... anyway, do you remember Pikamee? I sure don't, I wonder what happened to her after she graduated.

>>103516419
she joined vshojo and collabed with froot, who also drew the first ever fanart of henya

>>103516451
You aren't very smart are you?

>>103516508
sorry, i haven't read up on the latest filipino TVAfag research

>>103515985
Who the fuck is that

>>103513664
>5. Silvervale confirmed it
Silvervale only confirmed that Vshojo told her not to play it. She didn't say anything about Froot at all.

>>103508870
The truly difficult task is to figure out which schizos to listen to.

>>103516898
Froot was basically a manager in Vshojo

>>103518311
The only talent that was in any way close to being a manager was Melody. You're pulling shit out of your ass now.

>>103514509
That was also very weird. I kind of wish something had come of that because it'd really color my opinion of her post-grad.

>>103518364
It's actually interesting that melody said she will take a 1-2 week break, and now it's week 3 with no melody in sight.
She is getting sued, isn't she..

>>103518595
The consensus here seem to be that she was planning to leave regardless, but wanted to see if VShojo can offer her something better than being an indie. Most likely some negotiations took place, but nothing came from it.

>>103505662
Too bad I'm not a shareholder, I could have shows like these for myself everyday

>>103509902
kyo also mentioned someone having the exact same issue as he did but he wouldnt name who it was and magnis last collab was with kyo

>>103509288
>defending a disgraced dead corpo for free
damn buddy is everything going ok?

>>103508811
>The reality of what was going on behind closed doors with regards to Vshojo was unironically SO much more interesting
This. And you should have went with that

>>103518311
I believe it, after seeing how Kson got censored after calling her a fucking idiot for airing out the "cheating"

It's still baffling that Froot was never fired when any other company would have kicked her out.

>>103509288
>3. So far only one clipper has come forward and said they were told what to do by VShojo.
It was kinda obvious that ENVTubersOOC was on the payroll. The ex-VShojos got dropped like a dead weight as soon as they left and that account barely uploaded clips of anyone else.
They have since started to upload them again. Still heavily biased towards VSJ and even the girls who were going to join though.

>>103511829
Look at the Streamer Awards and Streamy Awards and you'll see heavy bias towards VShojo. This year the award shows might actually see non-VSJ people get included more.
Also note that Ironmouse was going to start her own awards show (which would have been heavily biased) before Filian beat her to the punch, which is why she hates her.

>>103521108
>Streamy Awards and you'll see heavy bias towards VShojo
Nobody from vshojo has ever won a streamy award
>Ironmouse was going to start her own awards show (which would have been heavily biased) before Filian beat her to the punch,
Nobody has won more at the filian awards than ironmouse

>>103511910
imagine being so dumb to quit your old company to join one that explicitly HATES wizard game

>>103503823 (OP)
I do wonder how much culpability do the original girls have, especially the ones who remained to the very end. What Kson described was an extremely obvious pyramid scheme, and yet she continued to suck Vshojo's ass for years, jesus christ. Gunrun and other should be prosecuted, and so should some of the streamers.

>>103513254
Show the me the last time Henya has interacted with or mentioned these two in any capacity on social media or streams.

If it's before the black stream, then clearly their relationship was business only.

>>103519591
Nice fanfic.
Kson didn't read the doc and just gave Froot support without knowing anything. Then all of the twitter freaks that attacked Froot and everyone that supported her also set their sights on Kson, bombing her DMs and tweets with whatever retarded rrat about Froot they had. So Kson made a statement that if Froot actually cheated, she would not support her, but she didn't have any evidence of her cheating, as did none of the accusers.

>>103522238
In the case of those who work in VOMS, GYARI may have told them that no interaction with her is allowed.
After all, she quit just because she was poached by VShojo. Other companies with talent that were being poached should have also banned interactions and collabs with VShojo.

>>103520763
Why, because of made up rrats pushed by far right schizos?

>>103522306
>if Froot actually cheated, she would not support her
KEYWORDS RIGHT THERE. This is exactly what i was talking about. She got censored for saying that.

>>103518069
Say it with me now: ALL RRATS ARE TRUE!

>>103522474
No, you were talking about
>after calling her a fucking idiot for airing out the "cheating"
Which Kson did not say,

>>103503823 (OP)
>They really were running a mean girls clique behind the scenes that people were afraid to criticize for fear of getting blacklisted in the industry
Nobody confirmed that at all? If anything it was the opposite; Vshojo lying and starting rumors to break up relationships that are now starting to mend.

Not going to read the rest of your fanfic and I'm still not going to watch Phase Cucknet.

>>103522715
The fact that they believed their employees over their friends is wild to me.
Ironmouse and Silver knew eachother before VShojo was even a thing.
You'd think some alarms would go off when they would say that. That just goes to show that shittalking was a common occurrence in that company.
For Ironmouse it didn't matter that she lost her fiend and most likely didn't even try to reach to her to get her side of the events.
She drew a line when they fucked with her bottom line.

>>103522531
Pedantry

>>103522958
>Ironmouse out of nowhere
Of course a catalog chimp that wants to dramafag but can't even be bothered to watch Aethel's stream on the topic would post something that rent free.

>>103503823 (OP)
Yes

>management of company get exposed as scum
>retards here still want to attack the talent instead of said management
no wonder Vshojo's collapse wasn't talked much about on the catalog, these motherfuckers were bummed they didn't get any tea to attack the talent with

>>103513664
1. Nigga what no she didn't lmao
3. Be less ESL and rereaed what she said
4. ??? I told you what happened and it's obvious if you look at literally anything. Haruka was the one recruited from the 2021 auditions and she was an orbiter. She was the only one hired from that. The 2024 auditions were going to be Pia Beri Tori and probably Vex none of whom were orbiters.
5. I only replied to the claim that Froot was protected, when she wasn't.
6. Saying they lied about donating to charity is implying that it happened multiple times. It only happened the one time, and while that one time was a massive fuckup and literally killed the company, the whole reason Mouse trusted them with this responsibility was because they'd delivered on it in the past.
7. NDA's can't stop you from reporting a crime, and drugging someone is a crime. MTD was a creep I wouldn't deny that, but you're confusing stories because stuff like that Mythos girl getting roofied happened at a different industry party centered around vtubers, not a VShojo party.
8. Running off with the money is a different claim from presenting FOMO merch as a negative, which you did lol. Obviously stealing money from fans is bad, but the act of limited drops is not a VShojo exclusive problem and it happens everywhere.

>>103503823 (OP)
proof of any of this?

>>103523238
>Vshojo's collapse wasn't talked much about on the catalog
Did you wake up from a coma or something?

>>103523303
no, the amount of vshojo threads were barely existent compared to shit like the Nimi situation

>>103521039
>It was kinda obvious that ENVTubersOOC was on the payroll.
the clipper didn't say they wer paid though, just that they couldn't post clips of the leavers, or else most likely receive C&D letters

>>103503823 (OP)
>They really were running a mean girls clique behind the scenes that people were afraid to criticize for fear of getting blacklisted in the industry
The fact that every single exvshojo did multiple collabs with indies after the collapse of the company instantly disproves this

>>103516093
The phasecuck shrieks in horror upon being found out

The sad state of this board. Schizos still schizoing over vshojo while no one else gives a fuck anymore.

>>103522329
>far right schizos

Go back

>>103529322
Imagine being a phaseconnect dickrider, excited that your biggest rival is dead and you are now the top english vtubing organization alongside hololive, only to slowly realize that the streamers involved in that former company still stream just as much to an audience just as large, and if anything are only energized by losing the albatross around their necks, and that your girls didnt actually get a bump in viewership and you are still 0.6%corp.