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Anonymous No.103554051 >>103554085 >>103554173 >>103554222 >>103554272 >>103554347 >>103554462 >>103554977 >>103555064 >>103555321 >>103555345 >>103555975 >>103556902 >>103556907 >>103558411 >>103559043 >>103559921 >>103565218 >>103565520 >>103572672
Unironically, how much do the Holos earn if one of the members with the lowest numbers in Roboco can afford all this?
Is there somewhere in the Cover quarterly report that you can extrapolate from?
Anonymous No.103554085 >>103554292 >>103555241
>>103554051 (OP)
Some Holos earn money outside of Holo.
Anonymous No.103554173 >>103559043
>>103554051 (OP)
What part of golden ticket did you not understand? They are all millionaires, in real currency not just yen
Anonymous No.103554222 >>103554587 >>103566620
>>103554051 (OP)
ok, but who cleans all of this?
Anonymous No.103554272
>>103554051 (OP)
bot rental fee is very high. That's why early Cover had to survive on investment funds and debt financing
she is high spec after all
Anonymous No.103554292 >>103555198 >>103555281
>>103554085
>earn money more than with holo
>invest it on holo activity
what a retard
Anonymous No.103554347 >>103565402
>>103554051 (OP)
cover a tech company maybe they gave stock-based compensation to founder talens like her and sora
Anonymous No.103554462 >>103554751
>>103554051 (OP)
I mean, do it for yourself.
Anonymous No.103554463 >>103554755
>Is there somewhere in the Cover quarterly report that you can extrapolate from?
It's literally listed as "talent renumeration"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remuneration

>Q1/2025
>993m Yen
>92 active talents(?)
>993/92
>On average: 10.8m yen = 73.500 Dollars a quarter year (lowest quarter)
If we take the full year of 2024 it'd be something like 350.000 dollars a year? Number of talents would be different but I can't be assed to do it properly.
Anonymous No.103554587 >>103554624 >>103569819
>>103554222
They have maids. Subaru talked about it openly and Kiara ofc threw the others under the bus by saying a lot more holomems have maids but they don't talk about it.
Anonymous No.103554624 >>103554689 >>103554710 >>103554783 >>103554890 >>103560550
>>103554587
They don't. Lui was horrified when she visited Roboco and started cleaning up. Towa was the same when she comes to Subaru's house and usually folds her clothes.
Anonymous No.103554689
>>103554624
this
Anonymous No.103554710 >>103554890 >>103555531
>>103554624
They don't have a slave 24/7 but someone who comes by every 2 weeks or whatever. Might as well burn the money if it's daily.
Anonymous No.103554751 >>103557231
>>103554462
wouldnt performer remuneration only cover salary and the talent's cut for shit like SCs, members, and holo fronted merch? I thought a lot of their earnings came from their personal merch
Anonymous No.103554755 >>103558085 >>103563769
>>103554463
Entire FY2025 remuneration wad 5729 million yen or between $38-39 million.
Divided by 92 talents, it would be more than $410k.
Holostars and ID definitely do not earn this amount and some JPs earn more than that.
Anonymous No.103554783
>>103554624
NTA but I mean, the girl failure ones have either their parents, managers or even fucking other Holomems cleaning up for them.
So technically it's like they really have maids kek
Anonymous No.103554820 >>103554924 >>103554939
Take whatever insane number you think they’re raking in, then cut it in half because Yagoo takes his share. Add the mountain of expenses like flights, music videos, and 3D events. At the end of the day, they're not exactly swimming in money. Once you include taxes, they’re basically living off cup noodles and exposure.
Anonymous No.103554890 >>103554968
>>103554624
>>103554710 (me)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57JxWPL5wvY
Kiara talked in a member stream about thinking to hire someone to clean and cook for her since many holomems also do that but she didn't name names.
Anonymous No.103554924
>>103554820
Holy /lig/ger cope
Anonymous No.103554939
>>103554820
stop talking about phaseconnect
Anonymous No.103554968 >>103564074 >>103565259
>>103554890
I'm sure Reine's Family has a whole staff.
Wouldn't be surprised if if Mori does too, somebody has to clean her teo houses and she is only not working when going out with the girls or asleep
Anonymous No.103554977 >>103555282
>>103554051 (OP)
She was talking about her Minecraft world in this stream.
Anonymous No.103555064
>>103554051 (OP)
if its not in the middle of a city the prices arent that high. for 200k you can get a lot. I believe roboco works outise of hololive too, so she can easily get a mortage for that.
Anonymous No.103555198
>>103554292
Yeah what a dumb idea, imagine spending money to pursue your passions and create what you want.
Anonymous No.103555241 >>103557020
>>103554085
ahem
https://asmr-labo.com/rj01316693/
Anonymous No.103555281
>>103554292
>Spending money to earn money, that's insane!
t. wagecuck
Anonymous No.103555282
>>103554977
no she wasn't
hell you can even read the reactions of the chat in the OP pic
Anonymous No.103555321 >>103558565
>>103554051 (OP)
>Is there somewhere in the Cover quarterly report that you can extrapolate from?
You don't need those reports because most data can be accessed for free, and you can use it to estimate the bare minimum each member is making.
FYI, Coco/Kson have mentioned Cover takes 50% from merch sales, and Pekora/Marine talked about the default 50-50% split for superchats (after YT's cut), and it's most likely the same cut for members. For sponsored game streams it seems that vtubers/streamers are paid 10-30k for a ~10k CCV stream, and that was corroborated not only by recent sponsors complaining about Twitch bots, but also "ancient" chink leaks that showed NijiEN organs like Vox for B2 shill streams made around 10k USD.
As for how much merch each talent sells, you can (or could) actually see decreasing available items inventory on the official holoshop and thus get the number of available items for sale/preorder. It's also possible to use bots to query Shopify platform to achieve similar results. On top of that, a lot of EN talents were making sales on Geekjack.
Gura's "shittier" official merch runs used to hit $500k, and her dino plushie broke the record of sales (according to Gura) while other members like Pekora were hitting 1M for every major merch sale like Birthday merch. I vaguely remember that while Vesper was still there, he'd sold 50-70k worth of merch on the official shop and probably at least half that on Geekjack, and he was a shitter by Hololive standards. At the same time HoloEN members had ~200-270k sales (except for Kronii) for their equivalent merch runs JUST on the official shop.

Tl;dr
EN and JP holos all have at least 1M USD after doing it for 2-3 years, and top ones have millions. This is especially true for talents who don't really "invest" back like Gura.
Anonymous No.103555345
>>103554051 (OP)
Majority of them do porn on the side that’s how
Ask holo id how they’re doing
Anonymous No.103555531 >>103555851
>>103554710
Once every 2 weeks isn't even that extravagant. If you're too busy or ADHD to do a thorough clean semi-regularly, it's not a stretch for a middle-class income to afford that, especially if you just have an apartment.
Anonymous No.103555851
>>103555531
To each their own. Some like doing chores, it's simple work that doesn't require brainpower, perfect time to relax/reset
Anonymous No.103555975 >>103556222 >>103556310
>>103554051 (OP)
Houses in Japan are way cheaper anon
Anonymous No.103556222 >>103556847
>>103555975
Countryside yes. Urban? No.
Anonymous No.103556310 >>103556847
>>103555975
countrysdide its cheaper

but in tokyo?
Anonymous No.103556847 >>103557344
>>103556222
>>103556310
Even urban varies a lot, median square meter price in Minato Ward is 1.6M yen, but in Hachioji it's only 310K yen, and that's just comparing within Tokyo, even staying within Kanto a decent amount of Tochigi and almost all of Gunma are sub-200K.
And if we ignore the fact that Holos are all presumably in Kanto, urban areas further out are even cheaper, Wakayama City is 89K and is connected to Osaka.
Anonymous No.103556902
>>103554051 (OP)
i mean there is houses outside of big Jap cities for super cheap. As long as its not in tokyo its not that impressive.
Anonymous No.103556907
>>103554051 (OP)
roboco gets her bag from goodsmile merch and plushies from real companies, unlike ENs shitty "collabs" with chinese companies making overpriced "designer" slop that no one buys.
Anonymous No.103557020 >>103557224
>>103555241
may I inquire a name perchance?

voice sounds familiar but there's at least 5 person i know with the same tone.
Anonymous No.103557224 >>103557333
>>103557020
type "rj01316693 hololive" in google image search
Anonymous No.103557231
>>103554751
It covers everything Cover pays them, but it doesn't cover the cash advance / what Cover lends their talents for their personal projects (which effectively is more money since those are tax-free with 0% interest).
In Q1 2025 (Q1 FY 2026 / 3), it's ~JPY15.46M / talent / quarter, or ~US$105.3K.
(Noted that this was just the overall HoloPro average, average HoloJP / EN members likely make more than this since homos and HoloID members dragged the overall average down by decent amount)
Anonymous No.103557333
>>103557224
I guessed right, thanks anon.
Anonymous No.103557344
>>103556847
WYEN TO YEN NOT DOLLAR TO YEN
Anonymous No.103558085 >>103558335
>>103554755
Taxes are eating a lot of that revenue. Would not be surprised if they lose like 40% of that amount.
Anonymous No.103558335 >>103558491 >>103558554
>>103558085
If they are smart to put everything they do as business expenses they can reduce the rates.
Even if ID earns a tenth of the average amount (41k dollars), that is still a lot by Indonesia standards.
Anonymous No.103558411
>>103554051 (OP)
If this on countryside and I assume it is since she bought the land, what I understand it is not that expensive and people do take loans all the time when bank agrees that they have good enough income. doesnt Jap goverment also want people to fuck off from Tokyo to the countryside by giving them reasons to?
Anonymous No.103558491
>>103558335
By indog standards the average ID girl is rolling in dough.
Anonymous No.103558554 >>103559758
>>103558335
No shit. Even in Jakarta they earn several times the average salary.
Even with that, we have an ID princess who is only in Hololive for fun, not for the money.
Anonymous No.103558565
>>103555321
>This is especially true for talents who don't really "invest" back like Gura.
>gura got shark'd, blue horizon and ash again made all for free
what a lucky girl! didn't have to spend a dime
Anonymous No.103559043 >>103562103
>>103554173
>>103554051 (OP)
Ofcourse they wont tell that theyre millionaires so that non-holo vtubers wont kill themselves
Anonymous No.103559758 >>103560281
>>103558554
Didn't Moona say something like she has the salary of a waitress or something like that? Not that i believe anything she says
Anonymous No.103559921
>>103554051 (OP)
Check out Marine’s MV. The budget for just that one video could build an entire house.
Anonymous No.103560281 >>103560590
>>103559758
A waitress in Japan earns more than 2.5 million yen or 17k dollars. Still high for Indo standards.
However, if she says that it means that ID are dragging down the average more than expected.
Anonymous No.103560445
i am noticing an uptick in roboco threads
Anonymous No.103560550
>>103554624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9IJGooCIQ0
I'll always remember the hilarious noise Noel made when she tripped.
Anonymous No.103560590 >>103560772
>>103560281
It should also include StarsJP, right? They would likely drag it down too.
Anonymous No.103560772 >>103561067
>>103560590
It also includes all Holostars
Anonymous No.103561067 >>103561828
>>103560772
Ye, so there would be a lot of people dragging down the average, though I don't believe EN is doing as bad moneywise as JP.
Anonymous No.103561828 >>103562064 >>103562117 >>103567627
>>103561067
They account for more than a third of the entire group I reckon. I know some of them can earn more in SC and membas than some of the EN and JP girls, but they get destroyed in merch cuts (which is the bulk of their earnings)
Anonymous No.103562064
>>103561828
It's sad because their primary audience (women) LOVE buying random tchotchkes with their oshi's shit on them. Even if they don't watch the streams, they love repping a brand and showing off their favorite characters.
As far as I know, though, any physical merch from the boys gets sold out just as fast as the average girl's, if not faster, and it's clear from their one single JP concert that the fans will show up in person for shit.

It's completely disproportionate to their actual stream views, though, so it's hard for the suits to gauge how actually popular their stuff is. L
Anonymous No.103562103 >>103562888
>>103559043
Also so fans keep handing money over.
Anonymous No.103562117
>>103561828
It's sad because their primary audience (women) LOVE buying random tchotchkes with their oshis on them. Even if they don't watch the streams, they love repping a brand and showing off their favorite characters in public.
As far as I know, any physical merch from the boys gets sold out just as fast as the average girl's, if not faster due to lower totals, and it's clear from their one single JP concert that the fans will show up in person for shit.

It's completely disproportionate to their actual stream views, though, so it's hard for the suits to gauge how actually popular their stuff is.
Anonymous No.103562888
>>103562103
No. "Fans" cry about not having money literally all the time and turn into antis over it and then get mad at Cover when talents say they are paying for their projects with money they earn (like any normal person) and demand Cover should pay for it. Where do they think Cover would get the money from? By taking a bigger cut from the talents. It's literally the same basic principles of how government taxation works. Good talents who like their fans will openly point out that your financial support went to pay for this thing they then did for the channel and so on (and they'll also talk about things it went to that improved their real life or that of their family). More people are outraged when they get tricked into believing the girls aren't millionaires than when they are told that they are.
Anonymous No.103563126 >>103565499
If Kson talking about missing "a ferrari" amount of money and basically not being worried about it is true, then there is so much money at the top of vtubing we don't even understand it.
Anonymous No.103563769
>>103554755
That is actually a lot of money. Job is not stable, but it can be enough to set someone for life in a few years if money is used correctly
Anonymous No.103563846 >>103564648
Early members likely have a better deal than newer members. Sora should have shares which would be worth a shitload now
Anonymous No.103564074
>>103554968
>teo houses
Teostra houses?
Anonymous No.103564648 >>103564705
>>103563846
Would not be surprising for Sora’s case. She joined when Cover was a tech startup, changed the direction of the company and gave them a golden goose in the form of a Vtuber agency.
Anonymous No.103564705 >>103564863
>>103564648
But it was years till they went public. No stock options till it does on account of no stock. Weren't there already a lot of girls when they had their IPO? Seems a lot of them should own stock.
Anonymous No.103564863 >>103566259
>>103564705
Depends on how they are treated before the IPO. Start ups usually pay their early employees with equity, more so if they are foundational people.
Some of the talents (like Botan I guess) said that she can’t own stocks because of their nature of being in an agency, so this probably applies to all talents that came when Hololive started as an agency.
Anonymous No.103565218
>>103554051 (OP)
unironically any streamer that has been a 4 view for 3+ years and isn't a millionaire is dumb
Anonymous No.103565259
>>103554968
>I'm sure Reine's Family has a whole staff.
Not for too long. The Luffy cosplayers would take care. kek
Anonymous No.103565402
>>103554347
this
Anonymous No.103565499 >>103565568
>>103563126
That numbers could also be inflated by VShojo. There is no way to know the real money behind that case unless it was a public discovery of the company.
Anonymous No.103565520
>>103554051 (OP)
Mortgage interest rates in Japan are < 1% and the terms are stupid long
Source: my friend in Japan who recently got his home built and mortgaged
Anonymous No.103565568
>>103565499
why would they tell her they owe her more than they actually do?
Anonymous No.103565961 >>103566224
If you consider the math, there's a lot of small factors making up their monthly income.

Cover Salary (This have been hinted at to be around minimum wage)
Superchat (-Youtube Cut, -Cover cut)
Hololive Official Merch Cut
Birthday Merch

So not only is the income pretty high, it's also a variable depending on how much a given Talent is doing each month.
Anonymous No.103566224
>>103565961
And members, that's basically a second wage.
Like, Kiara in her latest stream had 3.4k ccv with 37% members --> about 1.3k subs just among viewers live there --> 6.5k euros month pre-cuts at least

Though I guess it's lower due to gifted subs paid for another currency.
Anonymous No.103566259
>>103564863
Gotta say, those who had stocks before Cover went public are fucking rich. Had to dig a bit and they made a 1-to-100 split before the IPO.
If someone had 2000 stocks in Cover before going public, they now have 200000 stocks, and that is not even 0.05% of the total stocks.
Anonymous No.103566620 >>103568123
>>103554222
In Roboco's case, nobody. Unless she invites someone over and they get so disgusted they do it for her. If you consider history.
Anonymous No.103567627
>>103561828
They already backtracked on the merch cuts last year, JP is not releasing standardized merch anymore. They get a lot of themed merch sold through animate too.

EN also get their own merch done with outside shops from time to time but honestly most of it is ugly because they're Western artists/shops, but their fans still seem to eat it up.
Anonymous No.103568123
>>103566620
I want Roboco to invite me over so I can not get bothered at all about the mess.
Anonymous No.103569819
>>103554587
Not all, but a lot of streamers realized they could just hire a housekeeper for not that much money. The cost effectiveness of a live-in cook has also been discussed.
Anonymous No.103572672
>>103554051 (OP)
shes a bot so she doesnt have to spend on food