Thread 103562433

one day these women will learn that they shouldnt abandon their audiences for jp bros.

>>103562433 (OP)
How could Nimi do this? Her lore drop was so powerful that it waited nearly a month before magically killing all of EN vtubers' viewership on exactly august 14th

>>103562433 (OP)
It's a watchalong of some old anime, obviously it won't be a popular stream. Almost no watchalong is popular.

I was gonna say seems about right, but then I found this.
>>103562759
Oh yeah?

>>103562646
Almost like she isn't the one responsible... NAAAHHH

>>103562784
>January 2024
there's your answer

>>103562843
What? That you can get viewership on an old anime watchalong?

>>103562433 (OP)
I'm out of the loop, what's going on with Nerissa? I thought she barely spoke JP.

>>103562433 (OP)
>Nerissa
>abandon their audiences for jp bros
>>103562784
>counterexample is Fuwamoco
Looks like I slipped into bizarro /vt/ by accident

>>103562784
>Jan 2024
>before the move when they were still rocketing in popularity
>still a significant drop compared to literally any of their other streams in that time period
That's just disingenuous.
Even people as big as Miko gets like 1/10th her normal views on watchalongs.

>>103562646
So you're telling me that Shiori has better numbers than Nimi these past few days and it's not due to bots? Great!

>>103562978
The fuck are you on about? Nerissa speaks fluent Japanese and the twin dogs can barely muster up a konnichiwa.
Now excuse me, Aloe is about to collab with Rushia in a few minutes.

>>103563083
Well Holo buff is real. Shiorii would stay as a 2 view if not for it.

>>103562646
nice fucking cope her last watchalong barely did better than this and was a collab with a graduating member

>>103562826
he's making a joke about the censorship laws you fucking retard

>>103563178
So am i, you sperg

>>103562759
Subaru watched a 1995 anime 2days ago and she hit 25k effortlessly

>>103563204
sorry :(

>>103562884
she wont leave japan. shes been there for the entire year.

>>103563248
It's ok when JP does it

>>103563248
>Subaru watched a popular nostalgic kid's anime
so?

>>103563129
I don't mean to pick on haachama with this, but watchalongs are notoriously awful for numbers

>>103563273
What does that have to do with abandoning your audience?

>>103563321
shes hardly streamed at all on normal american viewer times and instead streams at jp times. are you retarded? holy shit. why am i having to type this out?

>>103562784
>>103563248
And I said "almost" which means that they are some streams that are still popular despite being a watchalong but they are the minority of watchalongs.
You really don't need to give me an example. I know they exist.

>>103563363
uh oh, amerigolem meltie

>>103563363
Why are you just making shit up? The main issue is she is just not streaming much at all, but when she does almost always is at her normal ~5pm PST time

>>103563120
The point is that Shiori's numbers haven't changed at all. So people pointing to this mysterious YouTube cull are all bullshitting and coping. This is the fall of ENvtubing and they just don't want to accept it.

>>103563009
Funny enough, a lot of their streams are pretty bad for viewership if it isn't something that appeals to the JP fanbase they cultivated. Their SC readings are down almost 50% on average from 2023-mid 2024.

>>103563592
Dunno if it's some cull or not but the way I see it is that Shiorii is still in Holo while nimi and saba are not and that's why their numbers are lower recently in my opinion.
If Shiori left Holo she would be back to her normal 2-3 view after a while.

>>103563721
Look at the OP retard, that's Nerissa. Last I checked she's a Holo and she's also getting shit numbers. ENvtubing is dead.

>>103563746
That's a different discussion. It's a watchalong. Almost no watchalongs are popular.

>>103563804
>Enter thread about numbers
>Get mad when numbers are shown.
You ok there bud?

>>103562759
>>103563248
Imagine comparing Nerissa to Subaru, Jesas Christ sisters

>>103563921
how do you even get a "sister" out of this?
Like what?

>>103562433 (OP)
I swear, numberfags are incapable of looking at numbers with contexts in mind
>Outsidfe of her usual streaming time
>Watchalong
>Of a emotionally-heavy anime
>a few hours after many Holos just spent 4h watching a big cross-branch Minecraft event
>Nerissa

>>103563921
Gotta seethe at Hololive somehow

>>103563248
Subaru has the best reactions in the entire industry and she's done public anime watchalongs every Friday for 3 and a half years, pretty sure she's the only vtuber who watchalong streams are a buff for

>>103562784
2000 unique chatters in 6 hours, this was botted

>>103563829
that you think numberfagging is a good thing already means you're a monkey

>>103562784
Come on, dude.

>>103563248
Comparing Subaru to Nerissa is fucking insane, man. She's literally Top 5 Holo talent
Do you really want us to compare Vox to kuzuha?

>>103564061
Sisters don't know that, kek

>>103563829
not your hugbox

>>103564061
>Do you really want us to compare Vox to kuzuha?
Or hell, Pippa vs any other Phase chuuba

>>103564061
It's still crazy that he's just a 3view now, for over a year already

>>103564117
Pippa fell off once she turned on her mostly 4chan /pol/ fan base. She's barely higher than the other popular(I use this term loosely) phase members now

>>103563962
Pretty sure actual numberfags would laugh OP out of /#/, which is why he created a bait thread instead of posting there.

>>103564152
from postponing a stream duo to lower numbers to being a constant 3view. Must be depressing.

>>103564198
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

>>103564061
Damn, feels good seeing Mio so popular. She deserves it.

>>103562433 (OP)
You need to start generating enough revenue to get your divisions out of the red. The popular members from Japan are currently earning the money that's covering the salaries for EN, ID, Dev_IS, and Stars.
Essentially, you all need to put your money where your mouth is.

>>103564049
classic holo graph

why are people who haven't even seen a over mainstream title like CLANNAD watching vtubers

>>103562433 (OP)
fwmc whoring out so hard to jp viewers made me drop them

>>103564357
theyre trying to transplant EN into jp by having the girls do a lot of streams with jp members. the la+ stream was just horny bait to get the jp bros into nerissa.

>>103562433 (OP)
>Watchalong
Bro the only popular watchalongs I remember were Gura night of the dead and Fwmc school days

>>103563829
It's just jealousy that makes them mad fyi
>>103564092
>>103564018

>>103564577
>Gura night of the living dead
I miss this gura

>>103562646
It's unavoidable since the entire overseas market is stagnating. westerners are interested in streamers, but they don't have much interest in vtubers

>>103564509
EN has a 3rd the talent pool, of course it's harder for them to do events with each other and get together.

>>103564061
Subaru is top 3 CCV wise
Actually her average is higher than the number 1 niji kuzuha.

>>103563248

now aiming at her older audience wich actually produces money. that's why she's the goat.

I wonder what she haves to say when she notices her fans compare her to tallgeese XD

>>103564490
Clannad was before anime went normie tier. Anything pre-Demon Slayer might as well not exist.

>>103564685
Yea EN vtubing is dead

>>103564619
am I autistic for feeling that Saba is way less girlfriend-coded than Gura was?

>>103562433 (OP)
EU time...what's the point of this nonsense?

>>103564710
you lost phasecuck.

>>103564321
feel the power of tarot mama

and the doom of her unavoidable predictions
When will she accept Subaru on her lap?

>>103564656
Pre-attack on titan
Pre-Naruto/Bleach
Etc
The line keeps moving

>>103564721
TOMBOY

SUPREMACY

>>103564061
When it comes to watchalong, most vtubers see a significant drop in their numbers. Even someone like Subaru, who is an exception and can usually pull big numbers, will see her viewership fall when she plays a title there isn't much demand for.

>>103563592
>>103563083
She played Uma musume and got a fat raid. Shut up retard.

>>103564812
Pre-dbz and sailor moon
Pre-Speed Racer lol
etc

>>103564890
But /vt/ told me gacha games are debuff games?

Subaru is a very rare exception among all VTubers who can get decent numbers from long game playthrough and watchalongs, so she shouldn't be used as a basis for comparison...

>>103564292
This guy is such a slimy bastard holy shit.

>>103562433 (OP)
i don't want to spend my saturday binge--watching fucking clannad. also, watchalongs are the lowest effort content and thus are usually really boring.

>>103562433 (OP)
I dont want to watch clannad again

>>103562433 (OP)
Rissa, you should alternate watching Gundam and Starship Troopers.

>>103563009
Watchalong are a necessary evil just like long story games are. I don't know if any other holo publishes polls but Subarus fanbase has a very good split between games, watchalongs, talk and random streams.

>>103565102
True, which is why react content is so popular.

She needs to deal with her lack of content consistency before anything else. It even seems like she's just hanging out at Cover's HQ to avoid streaming.

She hasn't stated this publicly because it would make her a target, but she stopped coming back here after E33fag attacked her beloved FFVII
If you want to blame someone, blame E33freak

>>103564647
Better than Sandrock at least

>>103565376
BASED

>>103565376
Nerissa should just go for longest streak as a corpo vtuber to go without playing any game

She likely has more reason to stay in Japan than Biboo, given her numerous recording and 3D programs.

>>103565789
?
if they stream for NA until late at night, they would be streaming from Japan during the daytime to early evening. this allows them to treat streaming like a regular day job without disrupting their sleep schedule.

>>103566244
>girl likes trashy lewd novels
wow stop the presses

>>103565789
While it would be fuck for vtuber like erb, wawa, and cc to stream from Japan for EU, it is a rational choice for NA vtubers work there for the sake of their own body well-being

Is there anything going on with YouTube's viewer counts today? Saw a couple of channels with lower than normal numbers, but weirdly some that seemed like usual.

>>103565376
E33 is objectively better than every iteration of FF7, including the original.

>>103566602
Youtube is requiring ID verification for several countries now

>>103562433 (OP)
>watchalong
kys tourist

>>103566645
Would you please not bring your Soulfag behavior here

>>103566602
Yeah, YT has been culling hard live views these past few days. I don't know why or when it will end and I don't want to ask numberchimps (they won't give a straight answer anyways), so it is what it is

>>103564292
Based

>>103565376
but they both originated from the same fanbase, didn't they. the toxicity is similar

>>103566645
>garbage is better than every iteration of trash, including the original

>>103565102
>Watchalong are a necessary evil
I guess I'd ask why, just for variety streams so you can get a wide audience and show normies that you do other things than just video games?

>>103565376
kek
The French backseaters didn't achieve their original goal of making her playthrough, but they did succeed in semi relocating a Midwesterner to Japan. It's far fetched

>>103566381
>black interracial trashy lewd novels
Bro is trying to make it seem like its Twilight lmao

Comparing you to the top JP talent doesn't make sense because the underlying conditions are just too different. It's unproductive, like telling someone to clear an extremely high hurdle in a very short amount of time

>>103567322
short answer:yes
bigger audience isn't a bad thing unless the vtuber really doesn't like watching movies. Throw everyone a bone once in a while and you have a big happy fanbase.
Patra even had 2 Gundam songs in her recent 3D birthday.

>>103566261
except they treat the JP trips like vacations and want their days free to relax.
>>103567000
yt has no competition, now they can reduce views to lower ad payouts.

>>103562433 (OP)
Okay, please list some alternative movies

>>103567778
VOD views seem to be normal, and I thought that's where most of the ad views come from. But then again all of YouTube's metrics are a mystery that constantly changes.

>>103567894
Into The Void
Trainspotting
Gummo/Kids
Hard Candy
Happiness
Falling Down

>>103564605
They FEAR the Numberfag’s ability to maintain an accurate count and organize the facts according to his infallible statistics

>>103566645
AAAIIIIIEEEEEEE NOOOOOO

>>103568159
need images of Kitase, Nomura, and Nojima

>>103562433 (OP)
Start by being concerned that your market is shrinking

>>103562433 (OP)
>JP bros actually care and aren't being retards
Idk anon, more of them should abandon you faggots, they seem happy enough to do so. Also watchalongs never do well, you faggots stated this every time JP members have low numbers.

I don't understand the logic at all. How does doing an English watchalong late at night in their time zone become something for jp viewers? It seems much more suited for an EU, doesn't it?

>>103564630
People are still interested in vtubers as any other streamer but vtubers are usually very mentally ill and you end up dissapointed when they come up with another bullshit that makes you sad. Meanwhile they could just watch some bald man on Twitch and laugh instead.

>>103568845
OP is just Nerissa-anti throwing shit at the wall

>>103562433 (OP)
That's a weird time to stream for her, but a Saturday daytime watchalong is definitely for the NA audience, and, it's something that's already famous here.

>>103564018
It's suspicious that these monkey pics never come out when people are trying to brag about a homo supporter's success. Almost like numbers are only good when they benefit you...

Is EN vtubing finally dying? Less and less of them are able to reach 10k ccv these days, guess all the anti-unicorn shit made most people go back to JP where they won't get openly fucking cucked

>>103569082
She is just staying awake for the advent collab i guess

>>103569342
saba is the final boss. once she drops below 8k, its over.

>>103569342
EN seems to have really lost their way.

>>103563804
>holos get called out for botting
>they resort to calling people monkeys

>>103562433 (OP)
JUST LET HER HAVE HER MILLION ALREADY

>>103563273
shes back now

>>103565603
nah she stills plays friendslop with advent

>>103569342
EN doesn't do fuck all, they get no special events, barely any songs, and Cover doesn't seem to give two fucks about their events and content.
I'm not surprised, it's been this way since Myth debuted. It's only marginally improved as of late.

/#/ will tell you about "twitch magic numbers" but when you check the overall ccv of a twitch vtuber you can see that her numbers are pretty much the same for years, meanwhile a youtube vtuber goes from 6k to 10k to 50k then all the way down to 2k, this makes no sense at all.

>>103573132
retard

>>103564780
Hopefully never since that lap is for me.

>>103562433 (OP)
Actual JPbro thinks it's pointless if the people who are supposed to earn foreign currency have to rely on existing markets, and therefore can't earn foreign currency. So, while it's not entirely wrong to say that the overseas markets are coming to an end, what you're saying is also somewhat correct.

>>103564721
Saba was made to be a literal child. So no, you're just normal.