Thread 103601881

What are red flags you can detect from a vtuber's debut stream?

>>103601881 (OP)
Lack of kayfabe means tourist, probably a politics fag, will hate vtuber culture and all things Japanese

>>103601881 (OP)
Egirl voice is always a bad sign
Pandering too hard to any particular group
Too paranoid or cautious

I can generally grasp the vibes in the first 5 minutes, but it's hard to put it into words. Interact with lots of different people, be perceptive, and eventually you will be able to intuitively sus people out.

>>103601881 (OP)
When they say their oshi is:
>Some big-name Holo/ex-Holo (Pekora, Gura, etc), because it often means they are a tourist looking for big numbers
>Someone in NijiEN (Elira, Enna, etc), because it means they are a Nijisister
>Pippa/Kirsche/Alana/False/Rima/etc, because it means they are a /pol/fag / dramafag

>>103601881 (OP)
>twitchslut intonation (think Veibae)
>they like phase
>their model is obviously hyperfocused on massive tits or otherwise being hypersexualized because she has no other talents
>wants to do react streams
>already has a bunch of mods in chat, some of which are obviously guys who are all "competing" for her
>has her own discord where she hangs with her closest friends and groomers
>playing a lot of league and/or valorant/apex

>>103602410
>their model is obviously hyperfocused on massive tits or otherwise being hypersexualized because she has no other talents
hey I think Dizzy is funny and Nene is cute

>>103602314
>>103602410
this but first and foremost either:
>proclaims to be trans ally/friendly
>has a troon mod/vip in chat or discord
>le based streamer

from my experiences of oshis that graduated prematurely vs those that haven't, it's having "goals" on their list that seem like a pipedream instead of something realistic that can be achieved in a year or 2. Don't fall for scams pretty much.
for ex.
>oshi that graduated before a year put this on their debut
travel all over the world!! Play a game with CEO!! Get 10 million subs!!

vs

>oshi that stayed around for more than 4 years and counting
do my 3D debut! take vocal lessons! improve my (insert current talent they have)!

Threads like these are why I appreciate 4chan. Every reply so far has been correct about everything.

>>103601881 (OP)
Debuting with an discord server is a huge red flag. It indicates the streamer is ahead of themselves, and it's guaranteed to be a drama breeding ground.
Indie with moderator on debut is a red flag for boyfriend.
Having zero spine when responding to chat and their demands.

>>103601881 (OP)
Deciding to become a vtuber

>>103601881 (OP)
1. empty or sparse or no schedule
2. Politics/culture warring/gender nonsense etc
3. Who is their Oshi? This anon >>103602314 nails it. I would also include some ex-VShojos. Those are fairly universal. There are more but they heavily depend on the context— whether indie or corporate, male vtuber female vtuber etc.

>>103602009
fpbp

>all this discord seethe
how is that any different from twitter dm's? it isn't.

>>103602617
the first two are the opposite of red flags
matter of fact gender stuff is good because it makes them scared of sex

>>103601881 (OP)
Mod already chatting as if hes a regular (bf)
The most generic of mainstream anime or game taste (grifter)
Larp or kayfabe the entire stream which will not be followed ever again (lazy)

>>103601881 (OP)
Having a penis

>>103604406
groomtards love dcord

>>103603353
>Having zero spine when responding to chat and their demands.
This is an absolute big one to me.
Getting one-guy'd too much early on can lead to a LOT of nonsense, and if you encourage that shit you'll end up with a fanbase that cries and screams at you for any perceived slight.
Kronii on debut was a good example of this. I had to leave the moment she went from "okay these are my goals and here's how I'm gonna do them" to "omg fuck it I don't know anything chat what do I do to fix my career"

>>103601881 (OP)
>"Respect my collab choices."

>>103606248
Not really related to the topic, but how long did it take for her to get rid of the 'mommy' shit?

>>103601881 (OP)
>no [good] anime taste
>no particular hobbies/interests

vtuber who is a loli but is in massive denial about it.

>>103607042
Pic unrelated

>>103601881 (OP)
Overt tranny colors, mentions xis pronouns, talkative mods (boyfr) in chat,

I only watch debuts to see the model. You can't really tell anything from them.

>>103606735
Tenma is boring and should graduate immediately.

>>103607435
2 weeks lil bro

>>103601881 (OP)
Discord

>>103604706
>the first two are the opposite of red flags
This is a complete lie
>gender stuff is good because it makes them scared of sex
Homosexuals, a group famous for their restraint around sex

>>103606303
she's still channeling the money energy just not dominant type

Having a feminine model.

>>103609905
retard

>>103609190
so you are concerned your oshi might be a gay man?
I would feel reassured if mine had read fucking andrea dworkin and thought all heterosexual sex is rape

>>103601881 (OP)
>favorites games: competitive FPS

>>103611236
or league

>>103601881 (OP)
Being an EN vtuber.
Chances of being a terminally ill western retard are close to 100%

>>103604706
>>103610905
What the fuck is this mentality? You better be fucking trolling.