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Anonymous No.103607182 >>103607217 >>103607246 >>103607310 >>103607344 >>103607411 >>103607479 >>103607490 >>103608164 >>103608571 >>103608901 >>103609014 >>103609022 >>103609160 >>103609383 >>103609683 >>103610691 >>103611838 >>103612986 >>103617758 >>103618067 >>103620069
Which ones are (or were) the nastiest behind the scenes?
Anonymous No.103607217 >>103609228 >>103621969
>>103607182 (OP)
>holo v holo
The answer is Elira and Vox.
Anonymous No.103607246 >>103607278 >>103607293 >>103607381 >>103610691
>>103607182 (OP)
Probably the whorish dancer who struggles to contain her lust for cock and fucks a male prostitute every night
Anonymous No.103607278 >>103610691
>>103607246
do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
Anonymous No.103607293
>>103607246
Right, I forgot about Millie.
Anonymous No.103607310 >>103607378 >>103607858 >>103608053 >>103608103 >>103608361 >>103610691 >>103618317
>>103607182 (OP)
>Gura ghosted everyone including her genmates.
>Ina lost her temper and was unpleasant to be around irl.
>Mori had 0 awareness and regularly made people uncomfortable.
>Ame and Fauna both lied to get out of stuff.
>Fauna was a bitch to Kronii and avoided her for 2 years.
These are the ones I know, I also suspect Mumei had an off-stream personality similar to Gura-Ame-Fauna, but have no evidence to prove it.
Anonymous No.103607344 >>103610691
>>103607182 (OP)
you mean the nastiest in bed? ina for sure
Anonymous No.103607378 >>103607454 >>103610508 >>103610691 >>103613816
>>103607310
This can't be right. Mori told me you needed to pass a vibe check to get into Hololive.
Anonymous No.103607381
>>103607246
different kind of nasty
Anonymous No.103607411 >>103610691
>>103607182 (OP)
not nasty, but Kiara is rude as fuck due her ESL
same goes for CeCe
Anonymous No.103607442
If the Sabadoob-Nimi rift is confirmed for good, then it'll be Fauna and it's not even close.
Anonymous No.103607454
>>103607378
they might not be nijisanji levels of nasty but remember, they're still women.
Anonymous No.103607479 >>103607521
>>103607182 (OP)
Gura ghosted the girls all the time and went complete radio silence for weeks sometimes.
Fauna was dropped by Kronii for a reason.
Anonymous No.103607490
>>103607182 (OP)
Fauna
Anonymous No.103607521 >>103607546 >>103607929 >>103608060 >>103610691
>>103607479
Gura was just a reclusive sperg. Fauna was genuinely nasty.
Anonymous No.103607546
>>103607521
Fauna had a few woman moments during an otherwise respectable career, Gura and Ame constantly didn't want to be there.
Anonymous No.103607630 >>103607979
Fauna.
Anonymous No.103607858
>>103607310
Basically this except none of it actually qualifies as being "nasty" and it's a testament to the quality of EN's character that this is the worst examples we have after FIVE fucking years.

If Fauna really burned all bridges she's obviously a huge bitch, but we don't even have the slightest clue how or why.
Anonymous No.103607929
>>103607521
>Gura was just a reclusive sperg.
Who constantly delayed everything because she missed every deadline ever
Anonymous No.103607979
>>103607630

Anon, you know it's dumb to quote your own post when the thread is both still active and has responses, right?
>>103599638
>>103601535
>>103603912
Anonymous No.103608032
100% Gura. You can tell she’s incredibly petty and mean spirited
Anonymous No.103608053 >>103608132
>>103607310
Is any of this true
Anonymous No.103608060
>>103607521
Gura was and is a genuinely bad person
Anonymous No.103608103 >>103609074
>>103607310
>>Ina lost her temper and was unpleasant to be around irl.
Proof? Obviously the gura shit is true.
Anonymous No.103608132 >>103608740 >>103621943
>>103608053
Ina's temper thing is based off accounts of both Kiara and Ame from when they all met in 2022 and recorded at Ame's house, the rest is all Tier 1 common knowledge.
Anonymous No.103608164 >>103608396
>>103607182 (OP)

definitely not Irys and probably not Mumei. Everyone loved Ame even though she seemed to have the least control of her temper.

From the outside Gura seemed the worst, not because she was nasty but because she wasn't on board anymore after like halfway through 2022, couldn't schedule her for anniversaries, ghosting genmates, low effort/energy collabs, wouldn't participate in anything beyond the bare minimum, formed a clique. The definition of quiet quitting, someone like that would be incredibly difficult to work with
Anonymous No.103608361 >>103608427
>>103607310
What are the most awkward Krofau moments?
Anonymous No.103608396 >>103609233
>>103608164
Gura is just a bad person who won at life. I will anti her forever
Anonymous No.103608427 >>103608525 >>103619520
>>103608361
somebody post the clip from the event where Fauna landed next to Kronii and they sat in silence for a complete minute until a third person came along.
Anonymous No.103608525 >>103608595
>>103608427
Why do you have to exaggerate what happened
Anonymous No.103608571 >>103608604 >>103608749 >>103608874
>>103607182 (OP)
Probably Gura, she doxxed Ame on stream, ghosted people, overlapped Biboo, just refused to interact with Advent and now dropped Nimi like a rotten potato.

Fauna supposedly had a falling out with Promise, specially Kronii but I haven't seen solid evidence of this and we don't know why it happened.

Kiara can be rude on stream and sometimes she sounds mean or jealous.

Ina was supposedly uncooperative and overall cold.

Kronii and Gigi can sometimes banter a little hard.

Mori is clueless and sometimes makes other girls uncomfortable.
Anonymous No.103608595
>>103608525
Timestamp?
Anonymous No.103608604 >>103608711 >>103608778 >>103608828
>>103608571
>she doxxed Ame on stream
Source?
Anonymous No.103608711
>>103608604
My toilet bowl
Anonymous No.103608740
>>103608132
People often overlook that she and Ame spent 12 hours or more trying to get Studio da Ame working so Kiara could do a 3D birthday live. Kiara didn't help, by the way, and then asked her and Ame to dance with her as soon as they got it working.
Anonymous No.103608749
>>103608571
It’s 100% Gura and it isn’t close. She is a cold blooded shark (I made myself laugh) and will cut anyone out of her life as soon as they don’t y her. I hate what she represents and worst of all she’s successful because of it. At the very least I can say she’s morally bankrupt
Anonymous No.103608778 >>103608876
>>103608604
This is oldfag stuff posting it will probably get you actually banned in this place for once
But ame didn't even notice and they seem cool with each other still even now so it's whatever
Anonymous No.103608828 >>103608932
>>103608604
It used to be a meme here
Anonymous No.103608874
>>103608571
Fauna had a falling out with Kronii specifically. She got on fine with the others until the end, especially Mumei.

We don't know why, and will never know why, and anyone claiming to know the truth here is just guessing. But I do think it's obvious that it was Kronii stonewalling Fauna and not the other way around.
Anonymous No.103608876 >>103608922
>>103608778
>ame didn't even notice
FUCK YOU! GO AWAY GO AWAY GO AWAY!
Anonymous No.103608901 >>103608936 >>103609032
>>103607182 (OP)
Fauna flipping out because the rice bowl was "contaminated" because someone had taken rice from it with chopsticks that "may" have touched some meat before was crazy, definitely not a good look for her, especially as she was a guest in Japan.
While streaming she was always like "I hate those vegans who annoy everybody around them" but I guess she is one herself.
Anonymous No.103608922
>>103608876
Wrong event, schizochama.
Man, I remember when you spammed they hate each other after that. What happenend?
Anonymous No.103608932
>>103608828
Anonymous No.103608936 >>103608978
>>103608901
Surely you have a timestamp?
Anonymous No.103608951 >>103609133
Didn't know there were so many women on /vt/. Damn
Anonymous No.103608978 >>103609032
>>103608936
NTA but I would love a timestamp too, because I remember it and want to watch it again.
Anonymous No.103609014 >>103609085 >>103609468 >>103609777
>>103607182 (OP)
Fauna literally grifted her way by lying through omission to swindle as much money as possible from her fanbase. She was never a gamer, otaku, singer, dancer, or anything related to the Holo job. She literally exclusively did asmr before joining
Anonymous No.103609022 >>103609167 >>103609205 >>103609268 >>103609502
>>103607182 (OP)
It has to be Gura. Not a single one of them cried, not even Kiara, when she graduated. And not a single one of them have mentioned her since.
She ghosted them, was a liar, hurt her fans, and was doing the same shit Fauna did. It probably made them sick knowing how much support she got while she constantly betrayed her fans, and they couldn't say anything about it.
Anonymous No.103609032
>>103608901
>>103608978
It was at the japan off-collab with Mumei and Bae, I remember that much.
Anonymous No.103609074
>>103608103
That was only during the time she worked on that one chink gacha, and it was most likely because she pulled 20 hour days between streaming and drawing. It's why she just stops streaming for some time when she works on "outside projects" now.
Anonymous No.103609085 >>103609171
>>103609014
Anyone with two or more brain cells could figure out that, she literally copied everything from northernlion. Nothing about "Fauna" was ever original.
Anonymous No.103609105
What's her secret? Being honorary Jap?
Anonymous No.103609112
Since Not-Ame and Not-Gura both dropped Not-Fauna like hot iron I would guess it was her.
Anonymous No.103609133
>>103608951
how new?
Anonymous No.103609160 >>103609520
>>103607182 (OP)
Anonymous No.103609167
>>103609022
Kiara literally cried while recording her exit hologra. No one cried on their individual streams bc they've accepted and knew Gura was ready to leave a long ass time ago
Anonymous No.103609171
>>103609085
she and shondo did learn how to ASMR pretty well with each other desu
Anonymous No.103609205
>>103609022
Everyone knew that Gura was leaving long before so it wasn't sudden heartbreak
Anonymous No.103609228 >>103609306
>>103607217
You’re seething, huh? It’s obvious.
One caused all the trouble, pulled others into chaos, and spread corruption.
Anonymous No.103609233 >>103609403
>>103608396
>does nothing
>omg this makes me so mad
I'm getting seething 2view vibes
Anonymous No.103609268 >>103609306 >>103623489
>>103609022
She's also ghosting them again, after saying she would "keep in contact".
Three of the girls said she just leaves them on read since 2 weeks after her graduation.
Anonymous No.103609306 >>103609942 >>103610399
>>103609268
>She's also ghosting them again, after saying she would "keep in contact".
>>103609228
Again, Elira.
Anonymous No.103609383 >>103609436 >>103609663 >>103610384
>>103607182 (OP)
>Mori
Socially retarded and uncomfortable, but probably not malicious
>Kiara
Loud and obnoxious
>Ina
Quiet and prickly
>Gura
Ghosts people constantly
>Ame
Temperamental
>IRyS
Rich girl who has no concept of consequences
>Fauna
Kind of girl who tells so many white lies it turns into an avalanche
>Kronii
Can't even maintain a pleasant act for the camera, let alone off camera
>Mumei
Genuine autism, 100% there were some off camera meltdowns
>Bae
Australian
Anonymous No.103609393 >>103613909 >>103617710
Towa is probably the nastiest EN. She traffics talents while in Japan using her position of power in the company and films them doing filthy, disgusting things to use as blackmail leverage. She once made Bae cancel stream because she got her sick after giving her laxatives and going ass to mouth.
She also roofied Biboo and broke her hymen and forced her to get an abortion after impregnating her adolescent eggs.
This isn't even getting into the torture stuff, either. I just wish new talents knew about her and Sora's "hazing" before it was too late.
Anonymous No.103609403 >>103609465 >>103609524
>>103609233
She lied to her fans for 2+ years to the tune of millions. She took advantage of the mentally ill and the lonely and troubled among her fanbase to farm parasocial relationships and sell the idea of being single when she most certainly was not. To me that is evil. The worst part is how she treated her coworkers and her fans she just ghosted them. I don’t care if she’s depressed or has another form of substance dependency or genuine mental illness: she had millions rely on her and she lead them astray for years. That is hallmark narcissist
Anonymous No.103609436
>>103609383
Fauna didn’t lie once unless you count lying by omission. She gets a pass from me
Anonymous No.103609465 >>103609596
>>103609403
>still at it
come clean with your own conscience and you may stop projecting someday
Anonymous No.103609468 >>103609559
>>103609014
Anon, I hate to tell you, but that's true of 90% of them. Most of them at most have one genuine interest (if even) and then fake the rest for the camera.
Anonymous No.103609502
>>103609022
Kiara did mention her on her 16000 karaoke though.
Anonymous No.103609520
>>103609160
I love /vt/ personification
cute
Anonymous No.103609524 >>103609596 >>103609731
>>103609403
Everything you said except the bit about ghosting your coworkers is true of literally every idoltuber. Gura isn't special. She never was, despite chumbuds hyping her to the fucking moon.
Anonymous No.103609559
>>103609468
Ina likes to draw and is pretty good at it
she also has cute voice
Anonymous No.103609596 >>103609885
>>103609524
Nah hard disagree. Many are not as manipulative as she is.
>>103609465
Idk what to tell you man I’m not the boogeyman you want me to be. I just think Gura treated her fans like shit
Anonymous No.103609663
>>103609383
>Kronii
>Can't even maintain a pleasant act for the camera, let alone off camera
she's literally hot Hinedere
Anonymous No.103609683
>>103607182 (OP)
they aren't NijiEN you dumb nigger
Anonymous No.103609731
>>103609524
>literally every idoltuber
don't project faggot
not every idoltuber is a lying whore
Anonymous No.103609777 >>103609848 >>103609865
>>103609014
>Fauna literally grifted her way by lying through omission to swindle as much money as possible from her fanbase
Unlike the other holomems, none of which have secret partners!
Anonymous No.103609848 >>103609945 >>103609946 >>103609998
>>103609777
Yet those are all speculations and can therefore not be used as an argument for who is the worst. Fauna on the other hand has now confirmed the existence of her fiancee, which she has been hiding ever since she joined Hololive.
Anonymous No.103609865 >>103609917
>>103609777
None of them except Azuki do, but I understand you want to shit on Hololive regardless
Anonymous No.103609885
>>103609596
>Many are not as manipulative as she is.
Are you kidding? Gura wasn't farming half as hard as the average vtuber. Hell, she wasn't even farming half as hard as her own peers. It's why I never understood why chumbuds were such a dedicated cult. It's like an elaborate running joke to pretend some chick with the streaming skills of your average 2view is some kind of goddess.
Anonymous No.103609917
>>103609865
>azuki
Anonymous No.103609942 >>103609985
>>103609306
Kiara also said in members that Gura isn't answering any of the holo girls anymore.
Anonymous No.103609945 >>103610199 >>103610307
>>103609848
This is so incoherent. The one who is honest about her partner is the one who's the worst for lying?
Anonymous No.103609946 >>103610002 >>103610168
>>103609848
Dabbling in GFE, then realizing it's not for you, isn't being nasty.
Anonymous No.103609985
>>103609942
>Kiara also said in members that Gura isn't answering any of the holo girls anymore.
She didn't, she just said she doesn't know anyone who's talking to her.
Anonymous No.103609998 >>103610198
>>103609848
>Yet those are all speculations
Several are absolutely confirmed, but you're not allowed to get specific because the mods will snipe you.
Anonymous No.103610002 >>103610127 >>103610148
>>103609946
It is if you decide to sell debut merch to your mentally ill fans BEFORE doing the "lore drop".
Anonymous No.103610127
>>103610002
So because a farmer decides he no longer wants the job, he should let his last crop burn?
Anonymous No.103610148 >>103610267 >>103610318 >>103610379
>>103610002
You guys act like she debuted and sold shit and then did the reveal the next day. And that's somehow worse than selling shit and then keeping up the lie. Is the real sin here breaking the illusion at any point?
I seriously don't know what you guys expected from the "We are not friends" girl. Anyone who didn't take the hint then and there deserves whatever came of them.
Anonymous No.103610168
>>103609946
She didn't dabble she was IN
Anonymous No.103610198
>>103609998
meds
Anonymous No.103610199 >>103610229 >>103610385
>>103609945
Their job is to tell convincing lies and Fauna did a good job of it until she made the mistake of thinking she knew better, thus the LLD which unraveled several of her previous lies
Anonymous No.103610218 >>103610273 >>103610308 >>103610445
Hololive is a lot more fun to watch when you're married and your wife also likes them because you dont have to give a fuck about their relationship status and you can just appreciate them for being entertainers.
Anonymous No.103610226 >>103610297
cucklings trying to smear other talents as being the same as their whore is honestly the most disgusting response I read so far
Anonymous No.103610229
>>103610199
>Their job is to tell convincing lies
They're all really fucking bad at their job then
Anonymous No.103610267 >>103610461
>>103610148
>Is the real sin here breaking the illusion at any point?
Yes, you absolute clown.
Although you're correct that the people who invested so heavily in her should have absolutely known something was up after she told her entire fanbase they're all parasocial fucks and not her friends.
Anonymous No.103610273 >>103610487
>>103610218
>appreciate them for being entertainers
go back and never come back
Anonymous No.103610297
>>103610226
Deflect to the niminiggers as much as you want, but you're just hiding your head in the sand at the end of the day and you know it.
Anonymous No.103610307 >>103610579
>>103609945
No, the thread's question is "Which ones are (or were) the nastiest behind the scenes?"

You can only truly answer this question if you have evidence of something. There is no confirmed evidence of other Holos being in a relation during their whole tenure in Hololive except for Fauna. This means Fauna was the worst Holo due to her lying through omission practices.
Anonymous No.103610308
>>103610218
>Hololive is a lot more fun to watch
Correct. Imagine if Nimi had stayed.
Anonymous No.103610318 >>103610814
>>103610148
At the moment of her debut she 100% already knew she was going to marry this man. Yet she kept it hush hush until she managed to build up a sizable membership and sell half a million $ worth of merch. You can keep it a secret or you can be open about it, but what she did is simply bad morals.
Anonymous No.103610372 >>103610437 >>103610987
>virtual hostess engaging in fanservice should be allowed to talk about her boyfriend in front of her client
you can't be that retarded
Anonymous No.103610379
>>103610148
They always miss the extremely important context that she announced it in the middle of vshojo imploding. The timing was not random. To me, it seems extremely obvious she used this moment to soften the blow and let the energy be lost in the midst of the bigger drama.
Anonymous No.103610384
>>103609383
>Kronii
https://x.com/nameronii/status/1686037938633850881
Anonymous No.103610385
>>103610199
I will never forgive her for the superchat tangent where she told a lonely incel guy that she also feels locked up and alone while she was already in a relationship with her future husband.
Well that or she married the next best guy after knowing him for 8 months.
Anonymous No.103610399 >>103610470 >>103610533
>>103609306
Don’t you wanna play with fire? Despite their potential, HoloEN didn’t overgrow like in their earlier days and couldn’t prevent the top dog from having graduated, while Saba left to focus on her safety, and Dooby and Nimi, clinging to her for what she’s worth, slowly made her bleed.
Anonymous No.103610437 >>103610653 >>103610760
>>103610372
Imagine how much better women's lives would be if they realized they could just be interesting people instead of using their bodies to get by in life and then complaining about it later.
Anonymous No.103610445 >>103610607
>>103610218
This isn't true. My girlfriend watches Ina and she would kill me and then herself if Ina did a lore drop.
Anonymous No.103610461
>>103610267
The illusion is always flimsy. None of these dumb whores can keep kayfabe for shit. You're just constantly averting your eyes from the truth whenever it peeks out at you.
Anonymous No.103610470
>>103610399
Weird thing to say when Saba clung to Dooby like an obsessed lesbian.
Anonymous No.103610487
>>103610273
Anonymous No.103610508 >>103610574
>>103607378
Doesn’t that start with advent? Otherwise mori v1 wouldn’t survive
Anonymous No.103610533 >>103610713
>>103610399
>and couldn’t prevent the top dog from having graduated
This is like listening to some boomer talk about how great of a player the current benchwarmer of his favorite team used to be and how much of a loss it would be if he left.
She didn't stream, she didn't take part in activities, she didn't produce anything. She brought in views WHEN she streamed 4x a year, but from a company perspective she has long been a dead asset.

And soon she will return to being one as an indie, she is already slipping.
Anonymous No.103610574
>>103610508
It started after Sana left, yes.
Anonymous No.103610579 >>103610982
>>103610307
This is just a repetition of exactly what I said. You're saying the one who is honest about it is the worst for lying.
By definition, if they're lying about it then you won't know. But it's flat out retarded to assume that they're not in relationships just because they haven't openly said they are. The default assumption should be that they are in relationships.
>There is no confirmed evidence of other Holos being in a relation
funny joke
Anonymous No.103610607
>>103610445
Uh, you okay, buddy? Being in a relationship with a female unicorn doesn't sound healthy.
Anonymous No.103610653 >>103610760
>>103610437
They know that. It takes a lot more effort, is the thing.
Anonymous No.103610691 >>103610753 >>103611045
>>103607182 (OP)
>>103607246
>>103607278
>>103607310
>>103607344
>>103607378
>>103607411
>>103607521
Absolute Mental Illness
Anonymous No.103610713 >>103611022 >>103611160
>>103610533
What caused her to stop streaming? She had the most subscribers, then suddenly got bored and decided to ghost.
Anonymous No.103610753 >>103610836 >>103611076
>>103610691
Lol
Anonymous No.103610760
>>103610437
>>103610653
>just be interesting 4head
Women are not incentivized to develop a personality, which takes a lot of effort, because men approach them solely for their bodies. And every fuckwit that keeps posting "Would" and "Sex" only contributes to this.
Anonymous No.103610814 >>103610933 >>103611104 >>103611282
>>103610318
>You can keep it a secret or you can be open about it, but what she did is simply bad morals.
So good morals is lying forever? Was Rushia a moral person because she kept up the lie until it was forced into the light?
Again, I just don't know what you guys were expecting from the one who actually said "We are not friends". After a certain point, how can you have sympathy for these guys who willfully ignored the clear warnings?
Anonymous No.103610836
>>103610753
>screencaps that can easily be edited
Nice try samefagging monkey
Anonymous No.103610933
>>103610814
at the end of the day browns dont care about morality they just want women to lie to them
Anonymous No.103610982 >>103611109 >>103611154 >>103611610
>>103610579
>The default assumption should be that they are in relationships.
Sorry, but I actually believe my kami oshi because she's actually decent human being that shares my idolfag views and can't be compared to your used up whore.
Anonymous No.103610987 >>103611034
>>103610372
There is no such concept in the west, which is why EN doesn't work out
Anonymous No.103611022
>>103610713
After she got enough money, she decided she wanted to concentrate on her personal life and that meant no longer traveling or having to do any work for hololive or spend any time with her fans. There is a reason people are saying she was like Nimi. Except she was worse, because Gura constantly lied about feeling lonely or not having any friends, and it turned out it was all lies.
Anonymous No.103611034
>>103610987
I think it exists in the west just by different form and degree
Anonymous No.103611045 >>103611076 >>103611115
>>103610691
fuck
Anonymous No.103611075
I noticed that IRyS has least amount of antis
good for her
Anonymous No.103611076
>>103610753
>>103611045
kek
Anonymous No.103611104
>>103610814
>how can you have sympathy for these guys who willfully ignored the clear warnings?
Honestly this. Although I guess it doesn't really change much on her end, not that I really care
That's the whole gamble of this industry though
This audience is cultivated and either chuubas are honest or lying. If they're lying they better be good ones
Anonymous No.103611109 >>103611156
>>103610982
There's no point arguing with brownposters like this. The one who was honest about committing herself to a single person for the rest of her life is a lying used up whore, sure, whatever.
Anonymous No.103611115
>>103611045
All me btw
Anonymous No.103611154 >>103611313
>>103610982
>decent human being
>idolfag views
pick one
Anonymous No.103611156 >>103611211 >>103611287
>>103611109
Fauna had multiple partners and was lying about not being in the relationship
wake up
Anonymous No.103611160
>>103610713
She did the same thing in her previous two incarnations. It is just how she is as a person, and nothing will change that at her age.
Anonymous No.103611211
>>103611156
>Fauna had multiple partners
thats not cheating
Anonymous No.103611282 >>103611452 >>103611483
>>103610814
Yes, if the lie dies with you nobody will ever know it was one. A lie only becomes a lie the moment the truth comes to light, until then it's all just conjecture and surmises.
Anonymous No.103611287
>>103611156
F for Kronii.
Anonymous No.103611313 >>103611364
>>103611154
Just admit you hate Hololive and their vtubing culture
Anonymous No.103611364 >>103611520
>>103611313
I don't
Anonymous No.103611452 >>103611551
>>103611282
>A lie only becomes a lie the moment the truth comes to light
that's kinda philosophical
Anonymous No.103611483
>>103611282
>t.
Anonymous No.103611520 >>103611541 >>103611560 >>103623634
>>103611364
you do realize that Hololive only became monetarily successful because of parasocial idolfags right? Hololive idol concerts are here to stay and so will singing/dancing reps for the talents
Anonymous No.103611541 >>103611605
>>103611520
So?
Anonymous No.103611551 >>103611581
>>103611452
That's just superposition or physics Schrodinger cat paradox
Anonymous No.103611560
>>103611520
Source?
Anonymous No.103611581
>>103611551
when all you know about philosophy comes from anime
Anonymous No.103611605 >>103611650
>>103611541
you just said that idolfags aren't decent, are Yuu saying that idolfag talents and idolfag fans of Hololive aren't decent?
Anonymous No.103611610 >>103611689
>>103610982
>Sorry, but I actually believe my kami oshi because she's actually decent human being that shares my idolfag views and can't be compared to your used up whore.
Anonymous No.103611650 >>103611765
>>103611605
idol culture preys upon the weak and mentally ill, it's dishonest
Anonymous No.103611689 >>103611710 >>103611993 >>103612059
>>103611610
Ru-tan always had rumors of her being Mafu cock sleeve
I will not even entertain the thought of this super generalisation of every Holo being a such a fraud because it's as close as possible resembles normalfags labeling every vtuber as male with voice changer
Anonymous No.103611710 >>103611807
>>103611689
Why?
Rushia was the absolute shining example of a pure maiden GFE girl.
Anonymous No.103611765 >>103611833 >>103611862
>>103611650
There is nothing mentally ill about it
your conception of mental illness is artificially subjective and enforced by those around you living much more pathetic lives that may appear "normal" and "happy" but are far from it
The feelings idolfan experiences seeing his oshi on stage can't be compared to mere happiness of the brutes
Anonymous No.103611807
>>103611710
>shining example of a pure maiden GFE girl
she was GFE, but not pure. Japs knew what she was like from NND days
Anonymous No.103611823
Why did they make an entire board to seethe about five women?
Anonymous No.103611833 >>103612419
>>103611765
I said it preys upon the mentally ill
The feelings you're talking about are a pale simulacrum of what people with real lives feel
Anonymous No.103611838 >>103611903 >>103611948 >>103612025 >>103612460 >>103613658
>>103607182 (OP)
according to her stream with kronii, irys either loves big black cocks or cocks that can shoot a lot of cum
Anonymous No.103611862 >>103611992
>>103611765
>The feelings idolfan experiences seeing his oshi on stage can't be compared to mere happiness of the brutes
Calling people who aren't idolfans "brutes" doesn't really beat the allegations of mental illness.
Anonymous No.103611903
>>103611838
That's based, have you seen porn of her?
Anonymous No.103611948 >>103612264 >>103613658
>>103611838
https://youtu.be/U3Om4sooB1w

found the clip
Anonymous No.103611992
>>103611862
sorry If I insulted your feeling anon
may one day you will experience the idolhood enlightenment
Anonymous No.103611993
>>103611689
>I will not even entertain the thought of this super generalisation of every Holo being a such a fraud because it's as close as possible resembles normalfags labeling every vtuber as male with voice changer
Anon, even flesh idols turn out to have secret boyfriends all the fucking time. Do you think this is somehow less likely to happen with virtual idols who have a whole extra layer of abstraction between them and their idol persona?
Anonymous No.103612025
>>103611838
She reads too much porn ngl
As horny as Marine which probably means she's actually not channeling it other ways
Anonymous No.103612059
>>103611689
Poor MafuMafu, man.
Anonymous No.103612264 >>103612306 >>103612382
>>103611948
Based on the reaction to "chocolate" here their pre-stream conversation can only have either been about dicks or shit.
I choose to believe it was about shit because it is significantly funnier.
Anonymous No.103612306 >>103612382 >>103612489
>>103612264
>So what kind of dicks do you enjoy, IRyS?
>So what kind of shit do you enjoy eating IRyS?
It was neither dicks nor shit, come on, what the fuck was it?
Anonymous No.103612382
>>103612264
>>103612306
Either porn or favorite type of men would make a lot more sense than outright dicks
Anonymous No.103612419
>>103611833
This. Cheering for your oshi among a sea of close minded people you can feel camaraderie for will NEVER compare to your manager giving you a cup saying "best Wageslave" as thanks for your 400h overtime.
Anonymous No.103612460 >>103612617 >>103618712
>>103611838
IRyS is married to a 45 year old Japanese music producer. She loves small jap cock.
Anonymous No.103612489 >>103612609
>>103612306
What I see happening here is
>kronii and irys had some kind of conversation before stream that is not appropriate for streaming
>kronii baits irys into thinking she'll bring it up, irys gets legit worried about it for a moment
>kronii diverts to talking about ice cream
>it's only the mention of "chocolate" that brings back whatever it was they were talking about and they laugh
So it's either "I like chocolate" or "eating chocolate" that's the joke here. Hence dicks or shit.
Anonymous No.103612566
Why are naplings acting like Hololive antis now?
Anonymous No.103612609 >>103612657 >>103612942
>>103612489
The green tea and chocolate answers were obviously random until Kronii brought it back to the inappropriate topic.
It's not about "eating", eating icecream is simply a metaphor for enjoying whatever concept they were discussing before.
Why would they discuss dicks before the stream? Neither of them is Projekt Melody, come on.
Anonymous No.103612617
>>103612460
That ojisan? All me
Anonymous No.103612657 >>103612774 >>103613658
>>103612609
To be fair IRyS likes to bring up yab topics randomly
Anonymous No.103612774 >>103618114
>>103612657
Within reason, she's not gonna start discussing the smell of her feces or her preferred dick size.
Anonymous No.103612942 >>103613022 >>103624166
>>103612609
Dicks in an abstract sense. It's highly unlikely they were actually specifically talking about dicks, but as the other poster said it could be preference in men or in porn or something.
I don't believe that eating ice cream is a metaphor for their previous topic, it's something random Kronii came up with. Irys seemed obviously relieved when the topic was switched to it, at least to me. It's specifically "chocolate" that brought it up again by kronii connecting it back after irys answered earnestly about ice cream.
The only two things I can think of that'd produce that kind of reaction are making the joke "oh so you prefer chocolate :^)" or "chocolate = poo = funny". Who knows what the exact context was but I can't see any other topics fitting
Anonymous No.103612963
fotte di culo la cazzo mierda
Anonymous No.103612986 >>103613049
>>103607182 (OP)
i really hope you're a woman.
Anonymous No.103613022
>>103612942
IRyS shart queen confirmed
Kiara can bond with her over that
Anonymous No.103613049 >>103613076
>>103612986
odds are yes. most of this board is seething women.
Anonymous No.103613076
>>103613049
i hope so, the post reeks of the kind of bitchy cattiness you get from the worst women. if OP was a guy it's really embarrassing.
Anonymous No.103613658
>>103611838
After watching >>103611948 that I don't know why it would be the latter
Kronii did describe her infamous would you rather (the one about the parent/SO bodyswap-have to fuck one of em) "like chocolate or vanilla" before
https://youtu.be/2b3gCdvU5Sg?t=10011
So it was likely just some conversation that became obscene to the point of IRyS really telling Kronii not to reveal whatever it was about ver strongly
It's odd considering the types of things they have mentioned before. It was likely just something of similar level of obscenity that we'll never know of. Regardless of if a "chocolate" or "ice cream" is related in any way to wahetver the topic it was (like the latter was to Kronii's wyr question)

>>103612657
Kronii does too. In fact Kronii did describe her reaction here similar to whate we saw
https://youtu.be/L8XvX24UESo?t=5968
It's like whatever type of doujin/manga IRyS, CC and GG were talking about when they were togther around last fes that also gave her a similar reaction
It came up again while BBCCRyS was playing the Elden Ring Nightreign DLC but nothing was revealed
Anonymous No.103613816
>>103607378
A lot of Holo EN pre-Advent would've failed their vibe check rolls if they were auditioning in 2025
Anonymous No.103613909
>>103609393
You should consider writing tavern cards for AI chatbots, I think you have a knack for it
Anonymous No.103614609
keko
Anonymous No.103617710
>>103609393
wtf I love towa now?
Anonymous No.103617758
>>103607182 (OP)
fdund
Anonymous No.103618067 >>103621985 >>103622189 >>103623318
>>103607182 (OP)
>Fauna
Nobody (except Mumei) likes her, she's self-centered, fake, no regard for others
>Gura
Ghosts everyone, doesn't give a fuck, can be mean (overlapping Biboo, ignoring GG)
>Mori
Reckless behavior (past), corpodrone (Gura hates her), but I don't think she's a bad person to deal with, her colleagues seem to like her.
>Kiara
Egotistical, narcissistic, envious, but can be sweet.

The others look fine to me
Anonymous No.103618114 >>103618245
>>103612774
>she's not gonna start discussing the smell of her feces
this is absolutely something IRyS would do
Anonymous No.103618245 >>103620044
>>103618114
Eh maybe piss to some extent but not shit. Especially not her own. Or at the very least she wouldn't be the one to bring it up...
Anonymous No.103618317
>>103607310
Mumei's autism leads her to be bad at reading social ques so I can't see her being a bitch intentionally. Unless it comes off as dorky to non English speakers because Towa clearly seemed to like her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msqnELT59Nk
Anonymous No.103618712
>>103612460
That explains why IRyS' dad was so down with BaeRys, he probably prefers someone closer to his daughter's age, even if it's a woman.
Anonymous No.103619520
>>103608427
Never seen any proof. Call me Danny Glover cause I’m lookin’.
Anonymous No.103620044
>>103618245
watch more IRyS
https://youtu.be/urdx5X2ukIM?t=1866
Anonymous No.103620069 >>103621833
>>103607182 (OP)
Ame, did "favors" for the girls so they'd be in her debt and excuse her shitty behavior.
The favors were literally common sense solutions.
Anonymous No.103621833
>>103620069
That's not true, she did them because she's a pushover,
Anonymous No.103621943
>>103608132
Typical Korean aggressiveness.
At least she seem to be reasonable.
Anonymous No.103621969
>>103607217
fpbp
Anonymous No.103621985 >>103624110 >>103624234
>>103618067
This take is pretty accurate if you've been paying attention for long enough.

Gotta add that Kronii is a bipolar drama queen with an eating disorder. She can be very sweet when you're in trouble, but partially because bipolar people tend feed on drama. Fauna clearly used her for emotional support when things were tough and then ditched her.

Bae is an ABG who is just here for the paycheck and to make connections. She's the party girl that Mori wouldn't name drop.
Anonymous No.103622189
>>103618067
This is the correct take.
Mori and Kiara has issues but generally a good friend for her colleagues
Fauna and Gura are Holo-anti now.
Anonymous No.103623318 >>103623441 >>103623478
>>103618067
Why do Mumei and Nerissa like Fauna so much anyway?
Anonymous No.103623441
>>103623318
Who knows? She's probably really nice offstream or plays silly obscure video games with them.
Anonymous No.103623478
>>103623318
Fellow Americans.
Moreover, Moom and Nerissa just like everyone. There isn't any indication that Moom likes Fauna more than Bae or Kronii, for example
Anonymous No.103623489
>>103609268
Surely you have proof of this, pretty sure Kiara has said it's never been better
Anonymous No.103623634
>>103611520
Concerts are pure postering, merch and brand deals make the money
Anonymous No.103624110
>>103621985
Bae has admitted to being a social climber
Anonymous No.103624166
>>103612942
Doesn't Kronii say she likes green tea which coukd point towards piss and chocolate would be shit
Anonymous No.103624234
>>103621985
Kind of funny that you have this detailed assessment of Kronii and below clipwatcher tier assessment of Bae (if such a thing was possible)