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Anonymous No.103619286 >>103619316 >>103619996 >>103620189 >>103620336 >>103620416 >>103620564 >>103620603 >>103621880 >>103621930 >>103622010 >>103623739 >>103624312 >>103624788 >>103624952 >>103626148 >>103626621 >>103626650 >>103627226 >>103629556 >>103629586 >>103630119 >>103632771 >>103638696 >>103639484 >>103651968
Why is Amiami dropping Ina?
Anonymous No.103619306 >>103622001
Cause she'sb ring
Anonymous No.103619316 >>103619451 >>103619833 >>103623739
>>103619286 (OP)
Ina is graduating so they have to finish all sponsorships
Anonymous No.103619451 >>103650019
>>103619316
so she lie
Anonymous No.103619833 >>103620136 >>103620186 >>103620356 >>103621537 >>103621724 >>103625479 >>103628536 >>103629811 >>103632758 >>103639584 >>103650693
>>103619316
>Ina is graduating
The AmiAmi sponsorship was only for a year so this was the time for it to end. The Ina graduation rumor isn't that crazy when Hololive recently had 7 graduations but I don't think Cover wants to cause any more graduations. It took Aruran 37 months to get a model redesign and while that is currently the new design record in Holostars, and Hololive, there will likely be a few talents breaking that record in the next year. Cover hates giving out model redesigns and they vastly prefer giving out a visual update (what they gave to Ayame). Still they did give a redesign to Kaela so they are starting to compromise.
Anonymous No.103619996
>>103619286 (OP)
I cant blame losers here for not understanding what a working contract here is. Uneducated
Anonymous No.103620136 >>103620418 >>103621228 >>103625701 >>103627521 >>103627614 >>103627813 >>103629825 >>103650693
>>103619833
Dude HOW the fuck is outfitschizo in LITERALLY every Hololive anti thread?
Anonymous No.103620186
>>103619833
Anonymous No.103620189 >>103620338 >>103623739
>>103619286 (OP)
I am going to miss Ina...
Anonymous No.103620291 >>103623739
Damn. I actually liked Ina.
Anonymous No.103620336
>>103619286 (OP)
it was a one year ambassadorship and a year has passed since she started?
Anonymous No.103620338
>>103620189
its okay, you'll get to tweet missusina as a hashtag three months later
Anonymous No.103620356 >>103621196
>>103619833
>21 graduations for Vshojo
>17 graduations for Nijisanji
Anonymous No.103620416 >>103620479 >>103621228 >>103639539
>>103619286 (OP)
To be honest, Ina has really dropped off with her streaming this past year, so I wouldn't be too shocked if she ended up graduating, but man, I don't want that. I want her to drop all the extra shit like the partner streams, concerts, and guest appearances and just go back to comfy gaming and drawing.
Anonymous No.103620418 >>103629825
>>103620136
That faggot and the tinfoil hat sabaschizo must be competing head-to-head on who can be the most insufferable scumbag in this shitass board.
Anonymous No.103620479
>>103620416
>just go back to comfy gaming and drawing.
a return to classic ina would be grand
Anonymous No.103620564
>>103619286 (OP)
They fell on hard times and can no longer afford Ina's collab fee
Anonymous No.103620603
>>103619286 (OP)
idk, why did bamco drop kiara in 2021?
Anonymous No.103621196 >>103623663
>>103620356
Hololive has less members so it can't afford as many graduations. If HoloEN had 17 graduations that would be the end of HoloEN. Nijisanji can survive it because it still has 28 people left.
Don't play the numbers game. You will not win.
Anonymous No.103621228 >>103621470 >>103621584 >>103637456
>>103620136
There still isn't an official MMD model for Ina while there are zero MMD models for Promise. There aren't that many other explanations for that besides certain talents are embarrassed to release a model using their default outfit. Does feel notable that everyone in Advent released their MMD models and they were the first EN gen to have creative input on their designs.

>>103620416
Ina has the second lowest stream hours in 2025 HoloEN so it does feel somewhat grim. She obviously was considering graduation in 2022 while the current demoralization feels like it's mostly related to the recent wave of graduations. That has soured the mood in the EN branch though I do believe them when they say they are okay with the new direction of Hololive.
Anonymous No.103621470 >>103622398
>>103621228
>while there are zero MMD models for Promise

Outfitschizo you just gotta kill yourself at this point my man.
Anonymous No.103621537
>>103619833
lmao come on man, this has gotta be a bit. This has to be the funniest thing in the world to you, there's no way I believe you're actually mad about this shit anymore.
Anonymous No.103621584
>>103621228
I love you outfitschizo. You're so mentally challenged.
Anonymous No.103621724
>>103619833
Fucking hell you got me again, outfitschizo.
You're a schizophrenic, but a damn funny one.
Anonymous No.103621880
>>103619286 (OP)
Holly fucking retard, please watch streams.
https://youtu.be/Ona-9_dYIwQ?t=311
Anonymous No.103621930
>>103619286 (OP)
Saba will announce her Nendoroid/Pop Up Parade soon. Ina is ending the sponsorship at Cover's request because shilling an enemy is seen as a conflict of interest there.
Anonymous No.103622001
>>103619306
I... see. Should I be concerned that she'sb ring?
Anonymous No.103622010
>>103619286 (OP)
Just going to leave this here for your retared ass.
https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/news/20240913-5/
Anonymous No.103622398 >>103622536
>>103621470
I never did notice any mention of the Promise MMD models being released on /vt/ and after the recent graduations don't bother much with the subreddit. Sure is curious though that their MMD models weren't released until June 2025 while Advent was released in April. I guess Cover really didn't want to release the models for either Fauna or Mumei.
Anonymous No.103622536
>>103622398
>Sure is curious
It can't be that much of a curiosity if literally no one else cares or remembers any of this but you
Anonymous No.103622608
Damn, it's already been a year...
Anonymous No.103622930 >>103623739
Ina, Kiara and Bae are all kinda done desu
Anonymous No.103623663 >>103627667 >>103628598 >>103630126
>>103621196
>5 out of 20 Holo graduated (25%)
>17 out of 45 Niji graduated (37.8%)
Really, sister? Are you sure you want to play the number game?
Anonymous No.103623739 >>103624329
>>103619286 (OP)
>>103619316
>>103620189
>>103620291
>>103622930
Anonymous No.103624312 >>103640521
>>103619286 (OP)
Fucking finally. The casuals cleared out all the discounted items. Looking forward to some overpriced shit actually getting a vaguely sane price now.
Anonymous No.103624329 >>103624688
>>103623739
you posted this two years too early
Anonymous No.103624688 >>103624864
>>103624329
Why, what happens on August 17 2027?
Anonymous No.103624788
>>103619286 (OP)
Good bye Ina weยดll miss u
Anonymous No.103624847
You all aren't ready for the extent of the graduations that are coming over the next year
Anonymous No.103624864
>>103624688
Mint Fantome becomes the CFO of Amiami.
Anonymous No.103624952
>>103619286 (OP)
Goodbye Ina.
flare couldn't save you with her platonic yuri fanservice to raise your fanbase income.
Anonymous No.103625479 >>103629778 >>103631079
>>103619833
Ina respects Kuroboshi too much to ask for a redesign
Anonymous No.103625701
>>103620136
Because mods don't hand out rangebans anymore
Anonymous No.103626148
>>103619286 (OP)
because ambassadors are a marketing gimmick, and marketing hates staying the same

it's why sites and apps get redesigned for no reason every few years
Anonymous No.103626621
>>103619286 (OP)
The allegations have resurfaced.
Anonymous No.103626650
>>103619286 (OP)
They're upgrading to FWMC
Anonymous No.103627181 >>103627497
I hope it was profitable for both Ina and AmiAmi
Anonymous No.103627226 >>103627528
>>103619286 (OP)
Just like Gura losing the Tokyo Ambassadorship.
And anons still refused to accept it.
Another graduation wave is coming.
Anonymous No.103627497 >>103630415
>>103627181
A monthly stream at a studio.
Ina drew a few art pieces for AmiAmi, one was also used as AmiAmi's thank you card for a bit.
AmiAmi gave Ina a few figures.
Anonymous No.103627521 >>103627568
>>103620136
At this point, i'm convinced that he's a bot. He never engages with the counter-arguments nor responds to insults. He just appears, takes a massive dump on the floor and leaves.
Anonymous No.103627528
>>103627226
You lost phasecuck
Anonymous No.103627568 >>103627599
>>103627521
Chad
Anonymous No.103627599 >>103627657
>>103627568
>a male feminist
>chad
Good one
Anonymous No.103627614
>>103620136
He probably is a phasefag. There is no other explanation.
Anonymous No.103627657 >>103627710
>>103627599
describe him with non-brainrot tropes next time
Anonymous No.103627667
>>103623663
Are you retarded?
Anonymous No.103627710 >>103627723
>>103627657
Fuck off, zoom-zoom tourist
Anonymous No.103627723
>>103627710
*diarrhea sfx on you*
Anonymous No.103627813
>>103620136
he makes the threads and samefags them, if you hadn't figured that out yet
a pathetic creature
Anonymous No.103628536 >>103629778
>>103619833
>oh no hololive JP/EN keep graduating
>better treat holostars/holoID better with model redesign
really ?
Anonymous No.103628598
>>103623663
ps. nijiEN just can keep accelerating
that's how sexpest keep getting in
Anonymous No.103629556
>>103619286 (OP)
because they got rumbled on the unmarked AD streams for the Red Gundam so now they're ending things in a hurry before anything happens about it
Anonymous No.103629586
>>103619286 (OP)
Sponsorships end, retard kun.
Anonymous No.103629778 >>103636818
>>103625479
>Ina respects Kuroboshi too much to ask for a redesign
They are both artists who did contract work for major companies it's not like they haven't done major alterations of a character design to better match what a client wanted. Kuroboshi does a wide variety of characters so it's not like he does only a single character type.

>>103628536
There have been a few model redesigns in Holostars, including the stealth redesign with Astel, so it was never an issue of cost but only an issue of getting management to agree to it.
Anonymous No.103629797
>graduation beggars
Anonymous No.103629811 >>103632151
>>103619833
Kronii or Sana I can understand but Ina? She flat as a board and isn't a loli. At a glance she looks pretty normal, only after examining longer you realize it pretty sexo. It's like Fubuki and Pekora, looks pretty normal and cute at a glance but it's no coom bait like Kronii or Sana.

QRD, how did this whole Ina hates her design shit even start?
Anonymous No.103629825
>>103620136
>>103620418
there's some off site chatroom(s) where all this shit is coordinated, it's been too repetitive and consistent for years to be free range schizos
Anonymous No.103630119
>>103619286 (OP)
>one year sponsorship ended
>why the sponsor stop sponsoring ?
brainlet OP
Anonymous No.103630126 >>103630779 >>103630992 >>103639964
>>103623663
5 out of 11 Holo en graduated and pulling a nijisanji and pumping out 2 shitty gens to shore up the numbers is even worse
Anonymous No.103630415
>>103627497
>Amico and Ina
did Liluco die or something
Anonymous No.103630779 >>103631690
>>103630126
>pumping out 2 shitty gens to shore up the numbers
Aramis isn't that bad, at least it gave us Ruze.
Anonymous No.103630855
>Kiara can't graduate because she doesn't have the self-esteem to think she could make it indie
>Mori can't graduate because her name is tangled in a bunch of record contracts
>Ina can't graduate because she's a brand ambassador for... oh right
Curious
Anonymous No.103630992
>>103630126
the fuck are you even talking about
holo en graduation start with sana 1 out of 11
advent and justice debut before ame become affliate
Anonymous No.103631079 >>103631600 >>103632151
>>103625479
She also just likes her design, she has personally paid Kuroboshi for art in her supposedly horrible design.
Anonymous No.103631600 >>103632711
>>103631079
>Anon also just likes paying rent, he has personally paid his landlord a shitload of money to live in his supposedly horrible apartment.
Anonymous No.103631690
>>103630779
>Pretending Gura hadnt effectively graduated years before it was official
Anonymous No.103632151 >>103633892 >>103633904
>>103629811
>QRD, how did this whole Ina hates her design shit even start?
Watch her first Minecraft stream and Ina was noticeably uncomfortable with her default outfit and how it looked on screen. You don't move a vtuber model around to make it look less yabe unless you find it embarrassing. Didn't help that viewers would send messages telling her that she looked naked and Ina was the first Myth talent to openly tell viewers she was considering graduation.

>>103631079
Ina and Kronii are fully aware that many of their viewers like sleazy coombait. Kronii released a daki and booba mouse pad for the coomers who like her design. That doesn't mean she likes the boob jokes and her response to a random grey name saying holy boobers is closer to her real feelings.
Anonymous No.103632711
>>103631600
I know you have never had money or a job before but your example makes no sense. It would have to be a landlord of your summer home and you voluntarily paid him for an additional adjacent suite or some shit like that. And it would still be retarded because it doesn't actually help clarify any point.
Anonymous No.103632758
>>103619833
>The AmiAmi sponsorship was only for a year so this was the time for it to end
This is correct. Everything else is schizobabble.
Anonymous No.103632771
>>103619286 (OP)
Because Amiami knows sales to the US are about to collapse
Anonymous No.103633892 >>103637018
>>103632151
Well it has been 4, 5? years since the FIRSTMC stream, I think plenty of time past for her to get used to it now. I think she has garnered a pretty comfy fanbase that more memes at her 'sexy' model than actually going full nasty thirst right?

Any recent examples of Ina saying or implying she doesn't like her model? Again can she really be genuinely complaining about it now after all these years?
Anonymous No.103633904 >>103636251 >>103637018
>>103632151
>Watch her first Minecraft stream and Ina was noticeably uncomfortable with her default outfit and how it looked on screen.
No she wasn't.
>You don't move a vtuber model around to make it look less yabe unless you find it embarrassing.
**OR** she was rightfully concerned that the retarded youtube AI would mistakenly ban her stream because of her bare shoulders?
>Didn't help that viewers would send messages telling her that she looked naked
Because she did. Pekora sometimes has the same issue and adjusts her model so it doesn't look like she's not wearing anything because of the bare shoulders. It doesn't mean she hates her model. It means she is intelligent and is aware of how awful youtube's detection system is.
>and Ina was the first Myth talent to openly tell viewers she was considering graduation.
Which had nothing to do with her outfit and was instead because of Cover's incompetent EN management messing up her work visa and making it so that she had to delay or cancel some of her projects.

>Ina and Kronii are fully aware that many of their viewers like sleazy coombait.
Because they like it too.
>Kronii released a daki and booba mouse pad for the coomers who like her design.
Because she likes it too.
>That doesn't mean she likes the boob jokes and her response to a random grey name saying holy boobers is closer to her real feelings.
She doesn't like people saying it directly because she is classy and doesn't want her chat to devolve into constant boob talk. But sometimes she likes to mess around with her model and bounce her boobs around too and enjoys her chat's reactions. You can tell that Kronii likes her model's proportions because any time she has to make a custom character in games, she always chooses to have big tits and revealing clothes.
This is because she used to think men were only interested in her body, but after being in hololive for so many years, she realized that her fans genuinely care about her and are there for her, and not her tits, which has made her a lot more confident and happy.
Anonymous No.103634438
Idiot doomposter.
Anonymous No.103636251 >>103637018
>>103633904
Outfitschizo gets btfo'd every single thread. I wonder if they enjoy being humiliated and that's why they keep coming back?
Anonymous No.103636818
>>103629778
Outfitschizo, stop it.
Anonymous No.103637018 >>103637773 >>103638132 >>103638625
>>103633892
>Well it has been 4, 5? years since the FIRSTMC stream, I think plenty of time past for her to get used to it now.
Ina tolerates the sleazy coombait better than in the early months but she went on multiple rants about the back meme and how she never wanted to be a lewd vtuber. Why do you think coomers mistake her for a lewd vtuber? Do you think it might be due to the skimpy skirt, open back dress, or high heeled geisha shoes?

>Any recent examples of Ina saying or implying she doesn't like her model?
Her stating in 2022 that she doesn't like revealing outfits before that sudden 3 month "health" break is still the longest stealth suspension in HoloEN. She may occasionally say that her design is perfect but Kronii does the same thing which is a thousand layers of irony.

>>103633904
>had nothing to do with her outfit and was instead because of Cover's incompetent EN management messing up her work visa
Cover "forgetting" to renew her work visa was 2024. The Hololive twitter account also forgot her 2023 April's Fools collab despite it being the largest event she hosted that year. Certain talents are forgotten more often than others.

>>103636251
>Outfitschizo gets btfo'd every single thread.
The redesign for Kaela and the visual update for Ayame were only done because the talents wanted those changes. No one at Cover was forcing Kaela to replace her skin tight dress or for Ayame to get a longer skirt.
Anonymous No.103637456 >>103639651
>>103621228
>There still isn't an official MMD model for Ina
anon, talents can decide whether they want an official MMD release or not. it's almost guaranteed that Ina she asked for it to not be public
Anonymous No.103637773 >>103639073 >>103639442 >>103639442 >>103639442 >>103639442
>>103637018
>Ina tolerates the sleazy coombait better than in the early months but she went on multiple rants about the back meme and how she never wanted to be a lewd vtuber.
Nope. She never went on rants. She simply asked her chat not to overuse jokes just like Fubuki, Gura, Pekora, etc have all done in the past. She was never a lewd vtuber and she doesn't think her default outfit is lewd.
>Why do you think coomers mistake her for a lewd vtuber?
They don't. Ina's fans sexualize her in fan areas like image boards because they are attracted to her and some even love her. Seeing someone you are attracted to in a sexual way is something that is completely normal for human beings, and her fans respect her so they don't do it in official areas where such intimate expressions would be off-putting.
>Do you think it might be due to the skimpy skirt, open back dress, or high heeled geisha shoes?
None of those elements are inherently sexual and it says a lot more about you that you associate geisha shoes with lasciviousness when geishas are not synonymous with prostitutes.
>Her stating in 2022 that she doesn't like revealing outfits
She was talking about her real life attire, not her model.
>before that sudden 3 month "health" break
You mean her trip to Japan to record for hololive and have meetings with the gacha company that she was doing work for because they were making an anime and needed her design input for the characters she drew for them?
>is still the longest stealth suspension in HoloEN.
There are no stealth suspensions in hololive. If you have evidence to the contrary, then provide it.
>She may occasionally say that her design is perfect
Concession accepted.
but Kronii does the same thing which is a thousand layers of irony.
And Kronii too likes her model and design, as evidenced by her choosing to make similar created characters in games.

>Cover "forgetting" to renew her work visa was 2024.
Yes, and the first time Ina said she thought about graduating before she decided against it was in late 2024 when she came back from Japan and talked about the visa issues.
>The Hololive twitter account also forgot her 2023 April's Fools collab despite it being the largest event she hosted that year.
The hololive EN twitter account was run by someone who only cared about holostars, much like yourself, and this was recently confirmed by Mori when she essentially said that the previous person was replaced because of this very issue.
>The redesign for Kaela and the visual update for Ayame were only done because the talents wanted those changes.
Kaela's design was never sexual and her current iteration is more masculine, which fits the way she sees herself. It was never about being too revealing. Ayame did not have a redesign at all. She is still wearing the same outfit, but her expressions, animations, and body proportions like her arm length were updated because her old model's rigging had issues. With that, various changes such as her model's default posture and the positioning of her kimono on her shoulders were very slightly altered to make more sense on her updated model. It is just as "revealing" as it has always been and her skirt is the same length.
Anonymous No.103638132
>>103637018
Sorry man I really can't imagine Ina going on a 'rant' unless her saying something like
>"I see what you takos are doing in my art tag... I'm gonna have to bonk you/no cookies for you"
Then those are not really rants... you are reaching. Might need to get some clips or something to convince me otherwise.

Now the health break thing being a cover for a stealth suspension is also a weird speculation, I doubt Ina is a trouble maker to warrant such a thing by management. Feels that is more of a Kiara/Mori/Kronii thing to butt heads with management. Now I have no proof of any of this, Fauna was able to keep all this well hidden for 4 years and she is most like Ina so who knows what the management situation for any talent

Though again 2022 is a long time now, I have no reason to believe that she hates her model current year
Anonymous No.103638263
You can't exactly have your talent be sponsored if they're not renewing their contract
Anonymous No.103638625 >>103638816
>>103637018
Why do you misinterpret the things Kronii says? Why do you hate her? You are the kind of person she is talking about here.
Anonymous No.103638696
>>103619286 (OP)
HOLY FUCK HUGE NEWS I AM GONNA FREAK THE FUCK OUT
Anonymous No.103638816 >>103639073
>>103638625
Feel bad for Kronii having to babysit and give a reality check to her coomer brain fan base to the point that she need to publicly address and tell them they are dumb.


I don't see Nimi out there making tweets to wrangle the Naplings
Anonymous No.103639073 >>103640027
>>103638816
These tweets were in reference to people like you that misinterpret her words and say things about her that aren't true, like the way you do when you say she hates her model. It had nothing to do with coomers. You are the kind of "fan" that she doesn't want. You are the kind of "fan" that stresses her out to the point she feels she has to make tweets like this.
Also, everything you've said has been continuously proven wrong by >>103637773
Anonymous No.103639442 >>103640495
>>103637773
>None of those elements are inherently sexual and it says a lot more about you that you associate geisha shoes with lasciviousness
High heeled geisha shoes are not sexual is some impressive gaslighting.

>>103637773
>She was talking about her real life attire
Anon your not fooling anyone she had an image of a half naked Ina daki on the screen while she was telling viewers about revealing outfits.

>>103637773
>There are no stealth suspensions in hololive.
Ina, Laplus, and Altare all had obvious suspensions. They couldn't stream on their channels for 3 months after getting in trouble with management.

>>103637773
>It is just as "revealing" as it has always been and her skirt is the same length.
Why even lie about the Ayame visual update? There are side by side comparisons showing that more of her chest is covered and that her skirt is noticeably longer.
Anonymous No.103639484
>>103619286 (OP)
>anon can't comprehend everything has an expiring date
Anonymous No.103639539 >>103640055
>>103620416
But ads ads ads buy buy buy is the new Hololive way!
Anonymous No.103639584 >>103640330
>>103619833
>Cover hates giving out model redesigns
Makes me wonder how they caved in so fast with Vesper and Magni. And then they still left.
Anonymous No.103639651
>>103637456
And with good reasons, I've seen what people do with Ina models
Especially the lifeless model in VR
Anonymous No.103639964
>>103630126
Retard, you don't even know the numbers you're trying to shit out.
>HoloEN/StarsEN: 7/32 =21.87%
>NijiEN: 17/45 = 37.77%
>VShojo: 21/21 = 100%
Anonymous No.103640027
>>103639073
kek you got the wrong anon, that anon was actually defending me
Wada Arco did a disservice giving her massive tits and boob windows in every corner + 90% legs
Anonymous No.103640055 >>103640313
>>103639539
>VSHITSHOSEETHING
Anonymous No.103640313 >>103641363
>>103640055
Do you really want half of the content you get to be advertisements?
Anonymous No.103640330
>>103639584
I can answer both of these: the two quitters all but confirmed that their stuff got fast tracked because "the other boys sacrificed stuff for us" aka Altare and Axel passed on updates/accessories/maybe even outfits for themselves so the 2 retards could get updates.
- Magni getting his 1.5 lines up with eating all the budget set aside for updates and accessories. Altare and Axel didn't receive either of those things for their base models until late Dec. 2023 and Jan. 2024 respectively.
- Vesper is a case where it would've been a future problem: his original mama went completely AWOL right after his debut. Like I went and checked recently and her Twitter hasn't updated since July 2022. Cover probably figured it was better just giving him a new model, and since those 4 didn't get outfits their first year (which was a departure from back then where most gens got some kind of group outfit before the end of their 1st year), it probably ate their budget up to get a new model for him.
Anonymous No.103640495 >>103643931 >>103643931 >>103646313
>>103639442
>High heeled geisha shoes are not sexual is some impressive gaslighting.
They are raised geta. They are not high-heeled. They are uniformly raised, which would make them closer to platform shoes if anything. You keep self-repoeting. We all know the entire reason you make endless posts here commenting about "coombait" is because you are extremely ashamed of your own hyper-sexuality.

>Anon your not fooling anyone she had an image of a half naked Ina daki on the screen while she was telling viewers about revealing outfits.
She was talking about what she wears in real life and what her preference for bathing suits was. Not many of these girls would wear what their model is wearing, not only because often times it is more revealing, but also because of the fantasy elements of their model's clothes. This isn't really revolutionary, you just performed a giant leap in logic and arrived at the false conclusion that she must mean she doesn't like her default outfit because it's not what she would wear IRL. That makes you very dumb.

>Ina, Laplus, and Altare all had obvious suspensions. They couldn't stream on their channels for 3 months after getting in trouble with management.
Do you have any proof at all or are you going to continue to lose this argument on the basis that you are making it up? Ina was never stealth suspended. I already explained what her 3 month break was for. The anime came out shortly after her break and her roommate was credited for working on it. Why do you continue to ignore this?
As for Laplus, she was going through a mental health crisis at the time and needed time off. She was receiving constant hate for her involvement with male e-celebs, both in hololive and off-stream. I have no idea about Altare, because I don't watch homo trash like you, but I'm sure you don't have any proof about him being suspended either.

>Why even lie about the Ayame visual update? There are side by side comparisons showing that more of her chest is covered and that her skirt is noticeably longer.
Because I'm not? You can still see her bare legs. You can still see her bare shoulders. She is still wearing the same kimono which you lied about and said was redesigned. It wasn't. You ignored the other changes to her model and focused solely on the placement of her kimono. At no point did Ayame ever say she was uncomfortable wearing a short kimono or with how much skin she was showing. Like with Aqua's touch up, her base model received slight adjustments to better fit her rigging and make her clothes appear more naturally fitting on the model. It had nothing to do with "reducing it's sexyness" or whatever you think it did. If she was concerned about the amount of skin showing, it wouldn't have gone from 60% covered to 62% covered. It would have gone from 60% to like 75% covered.

You use words like "coomer", "coombait", and "male gaze" because you hate men and you hate male sexuality. You are a an extrememly disturbed misandrist and you should seek therapy about your unchecked anger and antipathy towards men. I know that this is caused by an internalized hatred of yourself because you write and complain about things that are typical of trans women that hate their "maleness". You should stop hating yourself for feelings you cannot control. But more importantly, you should stop posting here about it.
Anonymous No.103640521
>>103624312
Fucking this. I think the damage is done on the prices though, it's the new normal.
Anonymous No.103641363
>>103640313
Gunrun ain't paying for your shitposting , let it rest
Anonymous No.103642755 >>103650766
Said a lot of the state of this board when Outfitschizo can keep bumping his threads without people calling him out.
Anonymous No.103643931 >>103646645 >>103647740
>>103640495
>They are raised geta. They are not high-heeled. They are uniformly raised, which would make them closer to platform shoes if anything.
Anon you need to look at the reference sheet for Ina and she even made a drawing on stream about her default outfit having high heels. Why are you going this far to convince anons that she loves her skimpy outfit? Ina was never direct like Flare but anyone that watched her could tell why she was depressed and would tell viewers she had a bad hand of cards.

>She was talking about what she wears in real life and what her preference for bathing suits was.
>Ina was never stealth suspended.
Are you joking or do you work for Cover?

>I have no idea about Altare,
He complained about management not doing anything to fix his 3D suit and couldn't stream on his channel for 3 months. He was the first talent in Holostars to miss his birthday.

>At no point did Ayame ever say she was uncomfortable wearing a short kimono or with how much skin she was showing.
Ayame told fans she wanted to keep her art tag safe for children you don't need telepathy to figure out why her skirt got longer.

>>103640495
>You use words like "coomer", "coombait", and "male gaze" because you hate men and you hate male sexuality. You are a an extrememly disturbed misandrist and you should seek therapy about your unchecked anger and antipathy towards men.
Vtubers are not fictional characters from a sleazy harem anime. They do get embarrassed, angry, and sad when coombrain viewers go too far with the sexual language. Even if they are selling an illusion they don't want the Hololive work environment to feel degrading.
Anonymous No.103646313 >>103647904
>>103640495
>If she was concerned about the amount of skin showing, it wouldn't have gone from 60% covered to 62% covered.
Ayame didn't get a full redesign but a visual update. Cover keeps the same overall design but allows for small changes. The new model looks different especially with the skirt length.
Anonymous No.103646645
>>103643931
Outfit Schizo, I don't know if you're a dude or a chick, but I think you need to get fucked in all your holes because you sound like some purity obsessed retard who's never jerked off in their life and getting out in a sex coma would do you some good.
Anonymous No.103647740 >>103649864 >>103649864 >>103649864
>>103643931
>Anon you need to look at the reference sheet for Ina and she even made a drawing on stream about her default outfit having high heels.
They aren't high heels, they are raised geta. You're actually a fucking retard if you think Ina's shoes look like high heels.

>Why are you going this far to convince anons that she loves her skimpy outfit?
I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm simply explaining why you're wrong. Ina likes her original design, which while somewhat revealing, isn't slutty or skimpy. YOU do not like Ina's original design and are projecting your tastes onto her and seeing what you want to see because of your own self-hatred and rejection over your own hyper-sexuality.

>Ina was never direct like Flare but anyone that watched her could tell why she was depressed and would tell viewers she had a bad hand of cards.
Ina is not depressed. She said she's feeling very content recently. She was never upset over her model and there would be no reason to anyways because besides some 3D streams, she can stream with whatever model she wants. No one is forcing her to use her original design. When she uses it, that is her choice.

>Are you joking or do you work for Cover?
Neither. I am simply telling you what she was talking about because unlike you, I watched that stream. She is talking about what outfits she prefers to wear herself. If you want to see what kind of fictional 2D outfits she likes, you can go look up the art she makes for gacha games, all of which feature much more revealing outfits than her design.

>He complained about management not doing anything to fix his 3D suit and couldn't stream on his channel for 3 months. He was the first talent in Holostars to miss his birthday.
And I'm sure you have proof that these two events are connected or a clip of him saying that he was suspended for complaining. And I'm sure you'll post it in reply to this post.

>Ayame told fans she wanted to keep her art tag safe for children you don't need telepathy to figure out why her skirt got longer.
No, see. You're doing that retarded thing again where you let your schizophrenia make connections that aren't there. Marine has also told her fans that she wants her tags clean in case kids see it or for people who don't want to see adult drawings of her. Almost all holos have said that, including Ayame. That has nothing to do with them being against adult artwork or hating revealing outfits. You really do seem mentally unwell and I'm trying to help you, anon.

>Vtubers are not fictional characters from a sleazy harem anime.
I never said they were.

>They do get embarrassed, angry, and sad when coombrain viewers go too far with the sexual language.
These are all women and they are all adults. Most people do not want to have to publicly address graphic and adult-oriented language. Almost all hololive fans understand this and that is why it is extremely rare to see anyone say anything pornographic in chat. If you actually attended one of Kronii or Ina's streams, which I invite you to do so, you would see that everyone is very orderly and that no one is talking about wanting to cum on their tits or whatever other pornographic thing you believe their fans are saying to them in their chat.
>Even if they are selling an illusion they don't want the Hololive work environment to feel degrading.
It's not. If they felt it was degrading, they would say so and they wouldn't participate in events like holo summer.
Anonymous No.103647904
>>103646313
It's because her previous stance is wider than her current one. I'm sure you have worn a skirt before because you are trans, but the next time you do, try to widen your stance and see whether the skirt hikes up your legs. It's not a skirt by the way, it's a kimono, and it's the same exact length in both photos. Likewise, as far as the amount of skin showing, her bare shoulders, bare thighs, and bare arms are still just as visible as before.
Anonymous No.103649864 >>103653033
>>103647740
>Ina likes her original design, which while somewhat revealing, isn't slutty or skimpy.
There are far sleazier vtuber designs than Ina but only Kronii is more sexualized in Hololive EN. Ina has made it clear that she doesn't want to be a lewd vtuber, that she doesn't like sexy memes, and that she will never release a daki. A sexy design is an anchor that is weighing her down.

>>103647740
>No one is forcing her to use her original design.
If a corporate employee wants to stay on the good side of management they don't necessarily get to do what they want.

>>103647740
>If they felt it was degrading, they would say so and they wouldn't participate in events like holo summer.
They didn't have a swimsuit concert in 2025 so they already are going in the direction of making coombait optional in holosummer. That means that sleazy swimsuit concerts were mandatory in earlier years and the only reason they became optional was because of the graduation wave.
Anonymous No.103650019
>>103619451
She's a brand ambassador, she's not allowed to true
Anonymous No.103650642
Jesus Christ it's just 2 schizo wall of texting each other here
Anonymous No.103650693
>>103619833
No one cares Outfitschizo, you lost.
>>103620136
I don't know, but what I don't get is how our newer users that call themselves Hololive fans actually believe his bullshit post-hack
Anonymous No.103650766
>>103642755
He's got backup these days. Really wish people here had the media literacy of other places. Kinda sad. He's actually succeeding in turning people away from Hololive based off his lies. All it took was for /#/ to turn on Saba after debuting.
Anonymous No.103651968
>>103619286 (OP)
KWAB
Anonymous No.103653033
>>103649864
>There are far sleazier vtuber designs than Ina but only Kronii is more sexualized in Hololive EN.
Hololive designs aren't very sexualized. I know you love posting that pic of some no-name porn vtuber agency with comically large breasts, but it's really just a self-own because it shows how tame and dignified all hololive designs are in comparison, even the ones that have a lot of skin showing.

>Ina has made it clear that she doesn't want to be a lewd vtuber, that she doesn't like sexy memes, and that she will never release a daki.
I agree with you but I'm not sure we agree with what a "lewdtuber" is. To me, a lewdtuber is someone who acts lewd and uses models similar to what is in your pic, even though admittedly it's a gross exaggeration to suggest even most lewdtubers look like that. And I'm sure you're aware of that. The issue is that Ina and Kronii are not lewdtubers and have never acted like one, so it's puzzling why you think so many fans of theirs think they are. They don't think think of them that way. In fact, many of them are attracted to them because of their modesty and lack of lewd behavior.

>A sexy design is an anchor that is weighing her down.
But if to you a "sexy design" is one that looks like what is in your pic, then Ina and Kronii don't have designs that are like that at all. This is probably the crux of your hypocrisy, as you both accuse them of having sexualized designs, but then when you post examples of what you think sexualized designs look like, Ina and Kronii's don't match those at all.

>If a corporate employee wants to stay on the good side of management they don't necessarily get to do what they want.
That's not how hololive works. The talent have a lot more independence than most types of corporate employees. Korone and Towa very publicly denounced the recent gacha merch and nothing has happened to them and nothing will happen to them. No one in cover is forcing talents to use models they don't want to use. Talents don't even need to join events if they don't want to as we've seen time and time again. Possibly the only exception is holofes, but Ina doesn't wear her original design to that even anyway. So unless you have some proof that she is being coerced to use her original design, there's no reason to think you are correct.

>They didn't have a swimsuit concert in 2025 so they already are going in the direction of making coombait optional in holosummer.
They didn't have it in 2024 either, and swimsuit designs were customizable in 2023. Suisei decided not to participate in it at all, but Ina and Kronii decided to participate in it both in 2023 and this year.
>That means that sleazy swimsuit concerts were mandatory in earlier years and the only reason they became optional was because of the graduation wave.
Or it means it wasn't as profitable or they wanted to do something else. You are jumping to conclusions again and finding meaning where there isn't any.
Also, you act as though they used to do them every year, but they have only ever done a holosummer concert once. So it's unlikely that them not doing it again had anything to do with graduations, especially since the ones that graduated were all fine with doing it.
Either way, regardless of why they didn't do the concert again, Ina and Kronii both enjoyed doing it and participating in the holosummer activities this year as well, and so as far as your original point is concerned, you still lose.