Thread 103624923

How did this happen again?

>>103624923 (OP)
Who cares.

>>103625223
People with actual cash?

>>103624923 (OP)
Turns out the purple dragon really was negligible.

>>103624923 (OP)
Anycolor confirmed that there will be dividends and even more dividends in the future, so investors obviously join in to get guaranteed cash. Hell it went so well that they asked Riku when he will split the stocks again to give them money immediately and he said he will think about it

>>103624923 (OP)
During shareholders meetings whenever Riku is asked something problematic he deflects by saying "Our competitor has Holostars". This strategy is brilliant because no one wants to be on side supporting homos.

>>103625540
[ ] The media convinced me he was washed
[ ] I didn't watch actual streams
[ ] I miss Selen
[ ] I don't know VTubing
[ ] I was jealous of Salome
[X] Mercury was in retrograde
I will hereby respect [Mr. Negligible] and I will NOT talk down on the future first-ballot Hall-of-Famer

>>103624923 (OP)
A few of these to keep the investors happy.

>>103624923 (OP)
Massive investor circlejerk. How's the en branch doing btw?

>>103625649
Another buyback?

>>103625655
Hey, they haven't had a graduation in what, 24 hours?

>>103625609
But in Niji the males are the main attraction

>>103625740
The competition desperately trying and utterly failing to capture the same market is a pretty good selling point.

>>103624923 (OP)
They may not pay their vtubers, but they do pay dividends

>>103625772
So you're saying either us or the VTubers make the dough? Interesting

>>103625815
Soyuz nerushimy

>>103625740
>But in Niji the males are the main attraction

>>103624923 (OP)
They're cutting off dead meat.

>>103625914
>kanae
do EOPs really

>>103624923 (OP)
NijiJP
EN is negligible

>>103624923 (OP)
Because Anycolor would rather spend their money on buybacks and dividends then remunerating their organs or investing in their 3D technology. If it was up to stock bros, Riku would chain his organs to a PC and pay them by throwing peanuts like circus monkeys.

Basically Anycolor is pivoting from a company for vtubers into a pyramid scheme playing musical chairs with stock bros money using streamer income to pay dividends.

>>103624923 (OP)
because if this

>>103626026
This
Anycolor is a professional in this regard.

>>103624923 (OP)
They pay investors rather than talents and employees like Cover does. Japan doesn't have laws like the US does where companies can be sued if investors think they aren't doing everything they can to make them money.

>>103626272
That's good, no?

>>103626319
It is, but it also means if someone's working in bad faith it's easier to drive it straight into the ground

>>103626026
it's called fiduciary duty, holokek

>>103626358
Or in language you actually understand, what they're supposed to do

>>103626358
>it's called fiduciary duty
pumping stock value isn't fiduciary duty. running the company in good faith is.

>>103626038
>tech startup
>already doing buybacks and dividends
what the fuck? they should be putting the money in and make more money. not waste it on shares like a crypto buyback shitcoin

>>103626319
no it's bad. it effectively caps growth because the company loses all its cash that it could use for investments of its own

>>103626805
Sucks on them. I'm here for that line going up

>>103626026
>or investing in their 3D technology
They still don't need to
Cover is yet to catch up with them in this area
Look how janky the pekomari 3D streams were.

>>103626794
Here is a hint, this isn't the first time he has done this. As soon as he thinks his own payout will be good enough he is dumping that shit.

>>103626933
>Look how janky the pekomari 3D streams were.
They were not using the studio for that anon. It was their home 3D tracking inside VR chat.

>>103625540
He won

>>103624923 (OP)
Usually, when Anycolor goes down, so does Cover.
However, it differed from recent Hololive graduations. Anycolor kept rising, while Cover has yet to rise above the point before Gura's announcement.
Confidence has returned to Anycolor.

>>103627029
Damn, that's a moggin

>>103627029
Cover purposefully handicapped themselves by lowering the expectation and withdrawing from Prime market application

This may look like a stupid move for short-term investors, but this is actually a smart move. Cover does not plan to pay dividends anyway, so why spending so much effort on getting useless "early lead"? By doing this, less investors will bother them and Cover can spend money in peace. Not like Cover is gonna go bankrupt anyway so they can pay investors later once they found a solid footing

>>103624923 (OP)
Nijisanji EN is negligible

>>103627525
Covercope

>>103627617
true, but that was also the case before dookie left

>>103627634
no. Because NijiJP now considers and enforces that EN is negligible the extra assets going to JP generates way more revenue for return.

>>103624923 (OP)
>nijisanji: giving everything their earn to their investors
>hololive: spending their profits in a dead game years after its fad died
>phase connect: owner is a cryptobro so he could disappear or be arrested at any moment
Are VTuber companies the new Machinima scam?

>>103624923 (OP)
Stocks are not a good indicator of a company's finance

>>103627923
Covercope x2

>>103626358
>Unironically

Unless you have money in this game you're only degrading yourself cheering on for Riku sucking banker cock debasing the concept of corpo vtubing. But why am I saying this, of course you do it for free.

>>103627978
I got those sweet dividends, so sucks to be you ig

>>103628040
It's like 25 cents per share. Aww man I'm really butthurt I missed out on that. Guess I won't be able to buy that cup of coffee this morning.

While the company is called Anycolor, red is a primary color and green is a secondary color so red takes priority

>>103624923 (OP)
The more cuts you do, the worse you treat your employees, the worse the quality of the product and the more "bonus" paychecks the higher ups get the higher is your stock price. It's pretty much the mondus operandi of every company in the stock market the last 20-40 years, and is arguably one of the main reasons everything's shit nowadays.

>>103628222
Typical wagey cuck wasting money on coffee

>>103625223
This board used to have multiple stock price threads daily when Cover was doing well lol

>>103627923
Stock is an indicator of future growth.

Last year, anons were trying to predict where Cover would expand next.
Now, HoloEN is -50% YoY.
Blame it on not adjusting to tariffs or ignoring high shipping costs. But they lost some major cash cows. Outside of Japan, Gura was the brand image of Hololive; partly because the world's second language is English, not Japanese.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flGVlL622p4

>>103627525
>Cover does not plan to pay dividends
And investors don't plan to spend money on Cover.

>>103627923
>Stocks are not a good indicator of a company's finance
Stock is an indicator of future growth.

Last year, anons were trying to predict where Cover would expand next.
Now, HoloEN is -50% YoY.
Blame it on not adjusting to tariffs or ignoring high shipping costs, but they lost some major cash cows. Outside of Japan, Gura was the brand image of Hololive; partly because the world's second language is English, not Japanese.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flGVlL622p4

>>103628755
chumfaggots still exist, lmao.
Imagine investing into a fucking vtuber company

>>103628755
>Stock is an indicator of future growth.
It's investor confidence based on past trends, not necessarily an indicator of future growth.

Next Niji yab when?

>>103628815
Past trends that help determine future growth.

No sense in investing in a company that is sustaining itself and not growing.

>>103628863
>Past trends that help determine future growth.
Not necessarily. Past trends can be used to manage risk, but risk can never be completely abated. From what I can see Niji is the riskier choice given their past, but it seems that investors have confidence that the risk is being managed well.

>>103628681
But you see, you can't do that with Nijisanji because they kick babies for a living or smth

>>103628920
Or, there is less confidence in Cover.
Hololive had a huge upper hand outside of Japan, with huge future growth potential. Now with a major setback. The focus has returned to JP.

>>103625540
RikuGODs can't stop winning. I should have had more faith

>>103628980
Trump's tariffs did lower confidence in companies trying to do business with the USA, but those aren't going to last forever.

>>103625540
tpbp
/thread

>>103629188
The tariff is small compared to the outrageous shipping costs that the Western fans have been complaining about forever. Switching to a US supplier, like Saba, could have been done for pre-orders. They've done orders with Omocat before. Cover's handling of the tariffs and shipping costs is a reason to lose confidence.
Though they were able to avoid tariffs with the re-release of Dino Gura, curious who is supplying those.

>>103629360
Cover should just move their American production/storage to Mexico.

>>103629360
The tariffs and shipping costs are negligible compared to the damage done by several of EN's biggest talents dropping out. Their biggest talents have left and the newer ones aren't as popular.

>>103624923 (OP)
It's a failing company on every side you look at it, but it's still being artificially inflated. Someone's getting a paycheck, the rest would lose. It's just a question of when.

>>103630401
Just lemme know when you OD on that copium, okay?

>>103624923 (OP)
>>103625540
Reminder that Riku continues to increase dividend payouts to investors because HE owns the majority shares at over 46% and so he benefits the most from it directly, at the cost of investment into the company and their talent. He is essentially legally embezzling money from the company and lining his own pock with miliions of doallars of Niji fan's support.

>>103631241
He paid himself millions dollar in dividends, so why nijisister sucking his dick, did they also get paid in giftcard?

>>103632238
Are you calling all the investors "nijisisters"?

>>103630579
Did you reply to the wrong post, or are you unaware of what that statement actually means?

>>103632633
No, dumbass, he's calling the fans of the company retarded because the performers they are ostensibly fans of aren't receiving shit while the company is ripping them off.

>>103632837
What does that have to do with anything

>>103633241
Get checked for autism.

>>103633290
This is a thread about stock prices, not glassdoor

>>103632633
anon do you know what a stock buyback is? What do you think happens ina stock buyback? Please explain in your own words, I'm fascinated

>>103633901
I've got a stock you can buy *unzips*

>>103624923 (OP)
What do you mean by "how", retard-kun? The more Niji exploit their talents, the better for profits, drama is negligible, and Nijisanji is actually a somewhat good company to buy stocks. Money talks, anon, who cares about the people.

>>103631241
Giving profits to shareholders is not embezzling you retard. That's how a business works.

>>103624923 (OP)
Dividends that keeps increasing, which means more money for him and his friends and less for the company each time. Japs will keep working for a bowl of rice a month, sisters will worship their sexpests even if they rape children while streaming. so he stopped giving a fuck about EN.

>>103626038
Holy shit, the dividends are MORE than the expenses and investments combined? That is NOT a sustainable economy.

>>103628515
Dunno, anon.
NijiEN sure lost a lot of money from their last cup of coffee

qrd?

>>103624923 (OP)
Stock manipulation and lying to investors.

>>103639364
Anycolor promised free money (dividends) to shareholders

>>103628717
Unless they're fans, which is probably what Cover wants.

>>103624923 (OP)
EN itself was negligible. All growth has come from the jp side.

>>103640111
>Free money
You know shareholders are buying shares of the company, right? It's an investment

how close is this to the EA strat being used today

>>103624923 (OP)
infinite graduations = infinite new hires = infinite growth

>>103625568
>split the stocks again to give them money immediately
investmentchama....

>>103626038
>talents gets 5%
>shareholders get 60%
yeah this story will end in yachts.

>>103625568
this

Over under on a necro bump from OP?

>>103624923 (OP)
>keep firing streamers in your EN branch
>profits and stock values skyrocket

>>103647518
>>103647744
WINNER WINNER DING DING DING DING!

You know what's so funny is that the stock market historically drops in september. But all the normalfags I've met who know a little about stonks are now saying the same thing so I'm wondering if we get an unusually shallow drop in september followed by a massive climb, just to confound them, before the rug is pulled in january.

>>103625649
Ah so more buybacks.

>>103625540
I KNEEL

>>103647518
is he going to do another??

>>103624923 (OP)
How did this happen?

>>103650957
>>103651036
Two! Two necro bumps!

>>103627887
that was already happening long before grifterbird left. they were swirling the drain the second Pomu was gone

>>103652156
A third necrobump! Wow.

>>103652182
I'm betting he's going to do a fourth necrobump

>>103636119
It doesn't have to be.

>>103652182
how is it a necrobump if its the first time you've seen the thread? not everyone is a neckbeard who lives here 24/7 constantly scanning the catalog

>>103652849
Here's the fourth

>>103651036
Double the profit, double the stocks. Sorry, Holodrones

>>103627029
>while Cover has yet to rise above the point before Gura's announcement.
They're literally 40 cents away from doing so.

>>103624923 (OP)
I remember when some dramamonkeys used the AC stock graph as the background for their Youtube videos.

I wonder if they still are.

>>103654745
>Answers the necrobump post
Thank you cofor confiming you are necrobumping, Nijisis. So mentally broken their company is a stock scam they can’t even do a thread about talents anymore.

>Vshojo was basically nothing but their EN side
>Value is in the negatives, company explodes

>Holo treats their EN branch as secondary, but nearly equal to their JP side
>Value is floundering

>Niji treats their EN branch like garbage, only keeping them around for appearances
>Value is rising even with endless drama

Conclusion: EN vtubing is not only worthless, but an actual negative. If you open a stream and the vtuber speaks anything but grorious Yamato Nihongo, help save vtubing by turning it off immediately.

>>103657576
The difference is niji doesn't pay their talents and pays stockholders instead. Hololive has a global monopoly on vtubing

>>103657605
Maybe the whole EN really is just negligible this whole time

>>103647518
13% chance

>>103654745
How convenient that someone just so happens to find the thread for the first time when its at the bottom of page 10 about to be pushed off the board. Multiple times. In a row.
You know just as well as I do that nobody scrolls past page 4 at most.

>>103658693
Have you heard of this thing called schizophrenia?

>>103658733
Nah, you're thinking of retardation

>NijiEN irrelevant
>Stonks rise

>>103658733
Do you think I'm making it up? I just watch it happen in real time, I sit around and keep the thread ad catalog updated every few minutes and watch the thread yoyo from the bottom of the catalog to the top and then it just goes back down to the bottom again because you just necrobump and go back to a different bait thread where you're getting more replies to post more garbage. Its not unique to this thread either, its a bunch of them, its why you see multiple bait threads live for days on end when in reality its just a bunch of you retards doing the same thing. Its really sad to see you idiots organizing this strategy together in order to fight whatever culture war you are trying to push. People can see it, you're not fooling anyone.

>>103658884
Like he said, retardation

>>103658884
Bait used to be believable

>>103658884
It might be healthier to get off /vt/ and touch some grass to get the necroposters out of your head. /vt/ is not serious business.

>>103658884
How do you even organize on this shite? Genuine schiz

>>103658693
I didn't push this from 10 but I bookmark catalog because I'm not a retard.

To be on topic all japanese black companies are some form of money laundering/pyramid schemes and the big earners at Niji are retards who will get caught up in prosecutions when this shit folds.

>>103658884
Do we have these "necrobumpers" in the room with us?

>>103658985
Make popcorn when that happens, gonna be sick ngl

>>103658963
Necrobumpers live rent-free in his blockhead, forgive him

>>103647744
Fire sale! Fire em all!

>>103658985
This is now my headcannon. Money laundering vtubing companies just sounds like a mega interesting topic.

>>103658884
> Hates necrobumpers
> Necrobumps himself

>>103642638
How do you expect the average retard on 4chan to understand money, let alone investment?

>>103624923 (OP)
They literally have cameos in multiple anime, something I've yet to see Hololive have. The truth of the matter is, the overseas market is indeed negligible in the grand scheme of vtubing things. Niji as a whole might be below Hololive, but Niji JP is bigger than Holo JP and Holo EN taken individually.

>>103656984
oh the irony, posting about necrobumps...thereby necrobumping yourself

>>103657605
If by global you mean "except Japan". They're the underdog on the home turf and it's only difficult for /vt/ to see that because of how good their reputation is overseas. Look at fucking VSPO. Barely anyone overseas knows anything about it, yet they're the third biggest vtubing company in the world.

>>103624923 (OP)
Inside trading

>>103659220
>doesnt know how to use the options field

>>103657605
>Hololive has a global monopoly
Not the biggest vtuber company. Can't even scratch Nijisanji's money even when they're abusing and scamming their employees

>>103624923 (OP)
Profits over people

Almost time for another necro bump

qrd?

>>103665075
>>103665703
And there it is

>>103665723
Blud literally not beating HIS OWN allegations

>>103666472
Do you not know what the options field can do? Are you new to 4chan? Are you underage?

>>103666622
Projecting much?

>>103651036
NijiEN is negligible, but the entire COVER is also negligible

>>103657576
This but unironically. Sanseito was right the whole time

>>103667924
>expands outward using ridiculous, unethical jp corpo nonsense that doesn't fly outside of Japan
>people don't like the corpo
>surprisedpikachu.jpg

>>103667340
RikuGOAT

>>103647744
N E G L I G I B L E

>>103658884
The mental hospital is that way

>>103658884
I just saw this retarded post and now I'm going to bump this thread
PSA: a lot of us sort by last reply and not last bump so if you really wanted to let the thread die you should have said nothing at all

>>103659220
This in action

>>103634444
Do you think room temperature retards understand how money works?

>>103658884
Touch grass, it's not that deep

>>103659210
Mujin video incoming

>>103671798
Bump it harder

>>103673869
I'm just surprised anyone is legitimately triggered by stock market threads. We're all vtuber fans here right? None of us actually give a fuck about stock market prices because they don't actually mean anything. Everyone knows that they're bullshit and investors do whatever they want. So these threads are just banter in the end. Why would anyone get mad about them?

>>103675840
You severely underestimated the amount of retards claiming that Niji is over when their stock price plummeted, meanwhile the Covercopers stay mum when theirs haven't even ever reached half of Niji's peak

>>103634444
If it's damaging the company then he should be removed, but he won't be because he's raising the payouts

>>103649021
They need to keep a certain percentage of their shares publicly available to avoid being delisted, and they're already dangerously close to that limit. That's (part of) why they offered dividends instead of a buyback last December.
Incidentally, their Q1 report is three weeks from today (JST), on Sept 10. I don't expect any "bad" news for Niji EN between now and then other than potential graduation notice(s); but I also don't expect the Q1 report to have any good news for the branch, unless it's in a "no news is good news" context.

>>103679304
Scarle grad Sept 9

>>103679355
She has to kill all her upcoming events past that to make it happen or get it done by then...

>>103683529
Assuming that it's her choice and not the company's.
EN upper management (not Maneguni, but the suits) has been waiting over a year and a half for a way to get rid of her without causing a mass exodus among the other livers for picrel and other reasons, and now that she's technically a heart patient they can just say "graduation for medical reasons lol" and remove her as quickly and unceremoniously as they did with Yugo and Ike. They'd be able to get rid of her without giving her a chance to say goodbye, all of her content would be nuked before the fans could finish reading the one-page "graduation" notice, and since it wouldn't technically be a termination the other livers would be contractually prohibited from having any emotions regarding her departure other than a little bit of sadness over the fact of her departure - this would be a triple win for the suits.
Sure, they'd be getting rid of the liver with the top streaming revenue in the branch. But she isn't even in the top 100 of the company as a whole, and probably isn't the branch's top overall earner, and the branch is already just one case of "one of the C Suite assholes was mildly annoyed by some random commuter on his way to the office" away from being closed regardless of whether she stays or leaves. So for a business that does its business like a late Showa era zaibatsu, it would make perfect business sense to "grant" her a medical "retirement" regardless of whether or not she actually needs or even wants to retire.

>>103624923 (OP)
>didn't buy da dip