Thread 103653496

>3D live for Anniversary
>5 new songs
>Mori song collab
>World Tour Concert -Synchronize-
>HoloEN Concert NYC
>Gigi Murin's 3D debut guest
>Cecilia's 3D debut guest
>Raora's 3D debut guest and Vocal Director
>AudioBook with Kronii
>ASMR Dom with La+
>Advent Hologra

Apologize

>>103653496 (OP)
I would apologize if she gives me a paizuri

>>103653496 (OP)
I'm swory Wissa.....

>>103653496 (OP)
>Doesn't stream
Good for Nerissa being involved in all those projects, but losing connection to your actual fans by not streaming sucks pretty bad.

>>103653631
fpbp

Hololive should hire a drummer, a dancer, a guitarist, a base player, a violinist, along with a singer, and create a full band.

>>103653496 (OP)
>Mori song collab
why would she shoot herself in the foot like this

>>103653496 (OP)
Imagine if they gave this level of support to Gura and Mumei.

>>103654298
Gura has all the support now what the fuck is she doing with it ?
Deepthroating mr sweden?

why do they spend the most resources on the worst members, is it a squeaky wheel thing

>>103654564
sounds more like /vt/ is terrible at judging who are the "worst members"

>>103654298
Nerissa is the best vocalist on holoEN, it's ridiculous to imply she doesn't deserve that level of support.

>>103654612
>/vt/
more like the general fanbase, she's the second least popular in her gen

>>103654564
It's almost like she volunteering in doing it and this is how the company works.

>>103654624
She's not even the best vocalist in her gen, you twitter trannies are annoying

>>103653496 (OP)
any of this is supposed to make me connected to her how?

>>103653496 (OP)
Fauna the idol-hating grifter could have NEVER

>>103654692
ok liar

>>103653496 (OP)
>when your whole personality is being an american and being obsessed with FF7

>>103654750
t. clipwatcher

>>103653496 (OP)
None of those are solo projects though, they're part of a group and every member of those groups is still able to stream more than her lazy ass does (lowest in all of EN)

>>103655093
>every member of those groups is still able to stream more than her lazy ass does

I was expecting this, exaclty this type of post.

Not every member of those groups did all of this all together, you dummy.

>>103654769
looks obsessed to me

>>103655124
You wanna explain what you're trying to say here?

She did a boring zatsu for her anniversary
She released 3 covers
The rest could have been done in two-three weeks at 40hrs a week but somehow stretched it to 6 months.

>>103655124
Pretending to be retarded just makes you a retard anon.

>>103653496 (OP)
>3D live for Anniversary
Biboo, FWMC, and Shiori are in this
>5 new songs
Biboo, FWMC, and Shiori are in this
>HoloEN Concert NYC
All of EN is part of this
>Gigi Murin's 3D debut guest
Biboo was in this
>Cecilia's 3D debut guest
Biboo was in this
>Raora's 3D debut guest and Vocal Director
Biboo and FWMC were in this
>Advent Hologra
Biboo, FWMC, and Shiori are in this
All stream more than Nerissa. Biboo has also been doing a shit ton of recording (probably for her own 3D live) and has still streamed 61 hours this month compared to Nerissa's 14 (she isn't even in Japan anymore)

>>103655544
Correction, Shiori was also in Ceci's 3D debut

>>103655544
>>Gigi Murin's 3D debut guest
>Biboo was in this
>>Raora's 3D debut guest and Vocal Director
>Biboo and FWMC were in this
Yeah but she had musical numbers in these while they didn't

>>103653897
Hololive does the pop idol journey backwards where they should start as a group and develop a sound then go solo but instead it's solo work and occasionally they do groups songs

Eg. Justin Timberlake, Beyonce, George Michael, Gwen Stifani, Michael Jackson all took that path.

>>103653496 (OP)
She is also the HoloEN member with the least amount of streamed hours this year. I guess she loves Hololive but hates spending time with her fans

EN hours streamed year to Date(Aug 1st)
Biboo 813 hours
Kiara 458 hours
GG 448 hours
Raora 439 hours
Mori 418 hours
FWMC 393 hours
Bae 366 hours
IRyS 350 hours
Shiori 336 hours
CC 322 hours
Kronii 298 hours
ERB 241 hours
Ina 216 hours
Nerissa 212 hours

>>103655206
>>103655459
It means that you cannot say "b-but those were in group"! It doesn't matter, the members inside that group are different and they were doing different stuff. For example, those others involved in 5 new songs aren't the same involved in the Audiobook.

>>103655544
>audiobook
>over/ride
>vocal direction
>World Tour Concert -Synchronize-

You're purposelly ignoring things anon, things which the members you listed weren't present.

>>103653496 (OP)
She has one of the best voices on YouTube, the problem is that Hololive’s people do NOT know how to use it. Hopefully Mori can steal her away to UMG.

>>103654298
>Imagine if they gave this level of support to Gura and Mumei.
>YEAR 2 OF 2 MORE WEEKS UNTIL I RELEASE MY HUGE PROJECT
Nerissa and FWMC are living proof that Gura and Fauna were lying.

>>103655873
No, you don't understand, anon!! They were working REALLY hard on their projects!

>>103655743
You're the only one coping, reaching and even shitting on other girls rather than facing reality.

>>103653496 (OP)
Forgiven!

Nerissa is just meta gaming vtubing. She wants pre-recorded content, to make the most money for the least time spent and to be able to fuck around with her friends.

So by shoehorning herself into every project where she can sit in a booth and ignore streaming is basically her dream. She also has no obligation to share behind the scenes info so she could get away with less work hours than a 9-5 and spend the rest going out.

>>103653496 (OP)
You forgot Haachama's 3D live

>>103655724
Biboo is a real grinder, good for her

>>103656212
>even shitting on other girls
Explain me where did i "shit" on other girls in that post. Go on. Do it.

>>103655873
Where are their streams?

>>103656751
This whole act you've got going diminishing other girls activities in order to protect Rissa.

We can read the room idiot we know what you're doing.

>>103656880
>diminishing other girls activities in order to protect Rissa.
No, that wasn't the point. What i said is that the other weren't in all the projects Nerissa where, so you cannot say "b-but even those people where in THIS specific project too!", it's stupid, and you're diminishing Nerissa's work by ignoring what she did.

It's not diminishing other girls because i didn't say, nor imply they weren't doing anything.

>>103654692
I can feel the feminine bitter resentment radiating from this post

>>103656370
streaming has been so entrenched in the vtubing meta that a vtuber doing mostly pre-recorded content feels alien now.

>>103653496 (OP)
Her last 2 or 3 streams had less than 2k live viewers because her complete lack of streaming this year so people just have come to not expect her to stream because she doesn't post a schedule anymore she just tweets out less than a day before about it

>>103653496 (OP)
I want Nerissa to pee on me

>>103655724
>Nerissa 212 hours
Someone broke this down and 114 hours have been Hololive collabs which she was just another pov, watchalongs which she barely spoke or Hololive events (ENReco, Paradise, Advent anniversary etc)

>>103653496 (OP)
>worst CCV in her gen
>boring personality
>topics for conversation run out in 50 minutes even after two weeks of absence
>no striming
>the whole personality is built around hamburgers, Korean and FF7
>leeching her family
>Lazy and lying
>hates games, last gaming stream was 40 days ago and this is a forced Advent collab
>All her recent musical projects have flopped hard
>low effort in everything related to streaming, in two years she still couldn't come up with anything that would diversify her content
>the most fake and boring shipping in all of Hololive

>>103655724
>Nerissa 212 hours
This is fucking grim, it's no wonder she has almost no fans left

>>103657993
Jesus Christ, does she actually hate her fans or something?

>>103653496 (OP)
>>103655724
>>103656370
i could forgive all this if she wasn't so directly dishonest with her fans. lying about not being back from japan (both times) instead of just admitting you want a few days off doesn't seem like a big deal, until you extrapolate and wonder what other small (or big) things she has deliberately deceived her fanbase about. she wouldn't have streamed at all the past few days if her dog hadn't immediately outed her as a liar.

>>103658213
>>103658248
>>103658269
okay lets stop samefagging here plz

>>103657741
>2k
lol

>>103658248
She probably believes that communicating with people on twitter is enough.

>>103658213
That's not even the worst part, out of those 212 hours 114 were collabs or Hololive events where she just had her own frame, and of the remaining hours of "her own content" 40 or so hours were rebroadcasts of old streams.

>>103658314
kys

>>103655696
Speaking of MJ, if he were still alive you just know he would be hell into vtubers.

>>103657727
Who even does the most pre-recorded stuff now? Shiori does her 5 minute long member video diaries every month and even that concept feels really out of place compared to everyone else

>>103653683
Hololive isn't a streaming company anymore.

>>103658314
You don't have to samefag to realize that her streaming hours are fucking terrible this year. Is she aiming to be the new gura? How do fans like you tolerate this, don't you want to spend time with your oshi?

>>103658269
she lied about being a demon of sound too. turns out she's just a midwestern white woman. unbelievable

>>103658318
KEK less than the homos? That's actually an achievement...

>>103658387
Says who? Nerissa? Because all the other ENs don't seem to have any kind of trouble finding time to stream while they also work on their own projects.

Another shitty Rissa catalog thread

>>103655873
tf does fauna have to do with that

>>103658269
>lying about not being back from japan
Did she really lie about it just to have an excuse to not stream for a week? Because that's incredibly disrespectful towards her fans

>>103658411
That faggot actually thinks that five minute appearances on OTHER people's projects are worth not streaming for five months, especially when her channel has been in decline since last year, especially funny when she is credited with appearing in Cecilia's 3D debut as a JOB where all she did was beat the tambourine.

>>103658411
>>103658507
bro just stop this is sad

>>103653496 (OP)
i don't give a fuck about vtuber music or 3D. No one with talent works in vtubing. in another universe Rissa would be waiting tables and talking about how it's just a part time thing until she makes it big.

>>103658490
Didn't outright lie just neglected to mention it until her dog ratted her out.

Nerissaschizo, Suischizo and Flareschizo all hitting the catalog in the same hour, I wonder time it is in Jakarta

>>103658614
KEK based dog

>>103658583
But she had an established music career before Holo.

I...I... I'M PRERECORDING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>103658411
>How do fans like you tolerate this, don't you want to spend time with your oshi?
He's not a fan, he's a faggot clipwatcher or a casual viewer for whom she's not the main oshi, only they can be happy with the output that Nerissa has shown this year.

>>103658647
IM GONNA PRE

>>103653496 (OP)
>The Demon of Sound who loves to sing, the last karaoke was on february 14th
More like Demon of Prerecording.

>>103658485
Shitty oshi, shitty thread, I don't see the contradiction

Nerissa is the type of girl to ask "am I doing it right?" every 2 20 seconds during sex and if not she cries

>>103658490
She ignored the chat that asked if she was home after the dog barked and froze for a whole minute, although she had already been home since monday.

>>103658411
It depends on how you're marketing yourself, basically. If Bijou started taking breaks every 2 days to record stuff her fans would throw a tantrum, and that's expected since she marketed herself as the "monster streamer" of HoloEN. Then you look at Suisei, and her fans don't care if she's not streaming that much, as long as she takes care of her voice and still puts up a ton of good projects.
My oshi streams once or twice a month, but she releases covers and original songs every 1 or 2 weeks, so I don't really mind.

>>103658427
thats just kayfabe, not all lies are created equal. its like your wife lying that you look handsome today (you don't) versus lying about going out with "just the girls" the previous night. one is an expected social norm and the other raises questions about every other excuse shes given in the past.

>>103658921
I DO

>>103653496 (OP)
I would rather have more and longer streams than half of those things

>>103658818
So she didn't lie

Thanks for confirming that the others are literally schizo.

>>103659215
Yes, she simply forgot to mention such an important thing as returning home after three days until the dog intervened, although before she reported it on the very first day.

>>103658813
I don't get that vibe at all tbhdesu. Theatre kids unfortunately have a lot of sex.

>>103654298
>Cover didn't support their most subscribed talent
>Doesn't stream consistently for 2 years
Chumbuds will do anything but hold their oshi accountable

>>103659261
There is literally nothing wrong in this. You might be obsessed to think she just wanted to hide it for "malice".

>>103655873
>FWMC
Oh yeah must be hard to present the same song for 3 years in a row.

>>103653496 (OP)
None of this equals the other Holos that release music, appear in 3D lives, do the world.tour, and somehow manage to stream 200+ hours more than her.

>>103659627
Name me at least 5 Holos which did this number of things in this span of time.

>>103659555
>Oh yeah must be hard to present the same song for 3 years in a row.
>3 years
Advent is 2 years old
FWMC told the Ruffians that the only reason why Lifetime Showtime took so long is because they wanted to release it on debut but management said holos aren't allowed to have original music on debut. Probably because it makes lazy bitches in hololive for a free ride look worse.
It's unironically myth and councils fault lmao

>>103659657
NTA but Irys, Mori, any jap chuuba

>>103659657
I know the other two world tour members release as much or more music, Mori even has more 3D appearances, and they have double her stream hours. I don't know why you think a couple minutes long 3D appearances somehow bridges the gap for the other Holos that have streamed 200 hours more than her.

>>103658645
>Established music career
No one cares about a plastic love cover anon.

>>103659657
NTA but both Mori and IRyS have done the same things Nerissa has, yet they still stream more than her. Not to mention Mori had a sololive and IRyS released an album.”

>>103658462
>all the other ENs
It really doesn't help your case when you're retarded like this.

>>103659930
A working musician is not a waitress

>>103655544
Bijou is a streaming outlier and she actually lives in Japan. I don't think you realize how much time is lost just needing to account for going there and returning. You've got over 24h lost in travel time alone and probably just as long being fucking useless due to jetlag and you're in an environment where you don't have your standard streaming setup which is why most Holos prefer to do collab shit when they have to travel. Between all the recording shit, the travel time, the jetlag and loss of a personal workstation it probably sets them back several weeks.

>>103660178
holy cope

>>103660168
Jailbirds can't read

>>103660424
>retard
Concession accepted.

>>103653496 (OP)
Apologize for what?

>>103659736
>>103659748
>>103660036
Those are just 2 names.
Also tell me and prove me where other 3D Live where Mori and Irys. Because they haven't produced 5 songs in the meantime, they weren't working as vocal director for a 3D live, they weren't working on an Audiobook and Irys specifically wasn't in Raora's 3D Debut.

>IRyS released an album.
When? 1 year ago?

>>103654750
Is it? I Don"t watch her often solo but I would think I would atleast heard of that

Why are Jailbirds the worst fanbase towards their own oshi?

>>103653496 (OP)
>mother of my children

>>103660671
brrats hold that title
they publicly embarrassed their oshi by trying to scalp tickets for all for one concert so they could have a disproportionate amount of fans there
imagine being Bae in that situation having to tell her fans to not do that without calling them attention seeking faggots

i love nerissa

>>103658488
She's a liar.

>>103660671
How would you behave if your oshi didn't give a shit about you to such an extent that she only streamed for a maximum of 1 hour a week?

>>103660544
>they weren't working as vocal director for a 3D live
retard, Nerissa only gave a couple of tips about one song in Raora's 3D.
Mori also wrote lyrics and recorded four original songs in two weeks, which she talked about on holomelo radio.

>>103660544
>produced 5 songs
Neither has she. Reading your post you're cleanly an ESL retard that has no idea what he's talking about. IRyS also just released an EP on top of the other music she releases like covers ,sponsored songs, and groups songs. Mori doesn't even need explanation, she literally said in the HoloMelo stream she's working on 4 new songs right now, and she has far more 3D appearance than Rissa easily.

>>103661209
>Nerissa only gave a couple of tips about one song in Raora's 3D.
You have no clue what she actually did. To be credited she did more than that.

>Mori also wrote lyrics and recorded four original songs in two weeks, which she talked about on holomelo radio.
Indeed she also tweeted about it. Like she wrote lyrics for 5 songs but only one is hers.

>>103661273
>IRyS also just released an EP on top of the other music she releases like covers ,sponsored songs, and groups songs
When?

>she has far more 3D appearance than Rissa easily.
Not this time span, prove me wrong if you dare.

>>103661308
Raora barely had any singing in her 3D, yet had 3 vocal directors listed, two of whom do it for a living. You should have Raora remove those other two from the credits because you make it sound like they didn't do anything.

>>103661370
IRyS released an EP just last month you braindead monkey

>>103661124
dunno, maybe drop her?

>>103661308
>You have no clue what she actually did. To be credited she did more than that.
Unlike you, faggot, I watched Raora's stream and I know exactly what she did.

>>103661372
>Raora barely had any singing in her 3D
But she did, she had 4 songs, one it's her first og song.

>You should have Raora remove those other two from the credits because you make it sound like they didn't do anything.
I'm not the one here saying them being credited for few tips.

>>103661370
Bro Mori had a sololive this year, appeared in the world expo opening ceremony, has another 3D concert coming up,.as well as appearing in Justice 3D and a couple others.

>>103661407
Right indeed, 1 EP one month ago vs every other thing Nerissa did in this time-span.

>>103661447
>I watched Raora's stream and I know exactly what she did.
Indeed she said Nerissa helped her.

>>103661469
>Bro Mori had a sololive this year
Sure, too bad i said "this time span" which means the time span Nerissa did all those things, so when she was in Japan during this Summer.

>>103661494
>every other thing Nerissa did in this time-span.

Girls should learn from her, how to treat yourself as a side character who focuses on supporting other talents instead of focusing on your own career in the company it's a terrible idea, not selling all merch and the decline of her CCV are proof of that.

so does nerissa hate kiara now or what? she went from constant collabs and meantions to basically nothing after they went on vacation together

>>103661545
Yes anon, it's written in the OP.

>>103661494
>>103661530
What is this retarded nigger cope

>>103661530
>Indeed she said Nerissa helped her.
She gave some advice on how some parts of the cover should sound.

>>103661494
Why are you saying over this time span. She recorded that in Japan because that's when she was there. It changes nothing about the fact that those other two will do as much this year while double her stream output.

>>103656579
Learnt from the best

>>103661530
Nerissa did some voice coaching at most. She was teaching Roara how to harmonise a while ago.

>>103653496 (OP)
I will never apologize because I never doubted

>>103661746
This is what Raora said, to be included in the "Vocal Director" part it means she did more than that.

>>103662080
Yeah indeed even this is part of her work.

So as we can see she did many things for the vocal direction part instead of just undermine her work.

>>103661748
>Why are you saying over this time span
Because that was my question you retard.
Read here: >>103659657

If you want to include an entire year i don't care, because i'm talking about her staying in japan this summer, since apparhently for you guys she's doing nothing.

>>103653496 (OP)
Nerissa is boring and her audience is special needs.

>>103662271
You created some cherry picked bullshit timeframe because you knew there are a lot of others that do more than her, got it.

>>103653496 (OP)
id prefer streams

all that shit is nice but i stopped caring after i got nothing but slop streams. shouldnt have let her content suffer for all this

>>103662411
Nerissa has always done "slop" streams because she can't handle looking incompetent on stream so she always plays baby games.

>>103653496 (OP)
>Wastes an inordinate amounts of time on things that will be consumed and forgotten in an instant or have to be shown behind closed doors and no filming because the product is shit.

Nice career

>>103659695
>holos aren't allowed to have original music on debut
Mori
Irys

>>103662499
Mori did a lot of the work on her own song which cut down on time/money needed. IRyS is a special case because she debuted an the EN equivalent of AZKi but that didn't pan out because EN management was fucking retarded at the time and did a bunch of stupid shit.

>>103662332
>you knew there are a lot of others that do more than her
No, because it's in context of what she does when she is in japan and "nooo she's not streaming!! lazyy!!"

If you don't know what we're talking about in this thread you can fuck off.

>>103662572
You had to create the equivalent of sports stats saying x player has scored more goals than any other player between the hours of 3 and 5pm while moon is waxing gibbous in order to try to say she's doing more than others. Shut the fuck up you brown retard.

>>103653496 (OP)
Solo streams >>> all that shit she did for other channels

>>103662435
There are many ways to fill your streaming content besides games, these are handcam streams, various shows and quizzes, karaoke, but Nerissa is too lazy and all her efforts come down to pressing the single record button and shitty zatsu streams, where she repeats the same topics for two years.

>>103663149
>exaggerating the concept
>he still doesn't get the context of discussion
Next time read better, seriously.

>>103662080
If only she spent so much time on her fans and streaming instead of teaching ESL talent, who should hire teachers for this purpose, maybe she would have sold out her limited merch and not ruined her channel for this kind of shit.

>>103655724
She needs to bring Aradia I'll watch that, the sisterly bickering is fun.

Now all I see her do is in collab she runs off on her own or dies so she can ghost mode
Or it just a mukbang and she is complaining about life

>muh food
>muh family
>muh fake lesbo larp
She is boring

>>103663324
Cherry picking stats makes them a complete joke, and her output compared to the others at the end of fhe year is all that matters. Who gives a fuck if she recorded a bunch of stuff in japan if at fhe end of the year others recorded just as much but streamed double the amount she did.

>>103663679
She moved with her parents, so no more Aradia on streams, except for big holidays, if Aradia has time to come to them.

>>103658213
She just broke 900k subs, but keep seething

>>103664092
It's just a shame that these dead subs from Japanese tourists don't affect her CCV and VOD numbers, which have continued to decline since last year.

>>103659496
You're transgender

>>103661601
Kiara tried to initiate sex. She does this every single time. If someone goes on vacation with Kiara and they are still on speaking terms, you should assume they had sex. Nerissa rejected her so things are awkward now

>>103663794
>Who gives a fuck if she recorded a bunch of stuff in japan if at fhe end of the year others recorded just as much but streamed double the amount she did.
Because is a matter of context you retard.

If she goes in japan and doesn't stream and focus on other things and you hear people crying about it because they don't see results, and then she shows result, of course i have to point out the time span when she was in japan.
Mori and Irys are always in Japan, they have advantage in this sense.
The point is how much she can produce when she is in Japan, not comparing to others in the entire year.

The way I see it, if some other activity is going to encroach on streaming time it has to be big stuff, like an album or Cecilia writing and composing her first song. Anything else (3D stuff, etc) you should be able to do while streaming

>>103664723
Which is what everyone else does.

>>103664626
Bro who the fuck cares about your cherry picked "while in Japan". At the end of the year her overall output is going to be far below many others.

>>103658813
That's kind of hot though

>>103653683
Biboo got that cover on advent side, she’s the one that keeps the projects going so it’s fine that she doesn’t stream

>>103664626
Then it's a combination of company direction to more projects, solo, collab, concerts and just overall less games and streams.

Streams and games provide the most connection and interaction between fans. Voice packs, MVs, group collabs to shill are pretty much one shot things and to just up numbers. Suck the change in focus and it give the talent an excuse for themselves to no stream. Nerissa probably loves this, clock in do your homework give yourself a day off from streaming and away from interacting with fan because that is stressful.

Look I get it management is on your ass to do xyz, you can tell yourself to take breaks since you did something already but still people like streams and she is really lacking in that side

>>103665337
I don't think that's a "company direction", it's more like Nerissa wanting to do projects and the best way is to fly over Japan and finish them. So when she's there she prefer focusing on those project rather than streaming, then once home she will focus on streaming.

>>103666107
She doesn't really focus on streaming at home either

>>103666282
the last 2 streams were pretty long for her standards

>>103653496 (OP)
she should do more mukbang ASMR as an apology

western slop shows

When’s the last time Nerissa had sex? I’d put money on two weeks ago.

>>103653496 (OP)
stream

>>103662572
>nooo she's not streaming!! lazyy!!
Maybe she isn't lazy, but she definitely hates her fans.

>>103664092
Yes, and her CCV keeps getting worse, and she had the worst limited merch sales in the company

>>103665337
>company direction to more projects, solo, collab, concerts and just overall less games and streams.
This is not a good excuse because all the other HoloEN girls manage to stream a lot more than Nerissa while as many projects as they want. The issue here is clearly Nerissa, who hates spending time with her fans for some reason.

>>103654298
Fucker. They gave Mumei AN ORISONG WITH A FULL MV AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF HER CAREER IN HOLOLIVE. She squandered their good will time and time again, all the while never putting out any voice packs and doing terrible, sporadic streams between weeks to months of vacation breaks. She was shunted to the back of the line because she was an unreliable ingrate who did nothing for Cover.

>>103654624
Let's not get ahead of ourselves now

>>103653496 (OP)
Based Rissa

>>103669060
Irys is good, but that's it.

>>103668490
>She squandered their good will time and time again, all the while never putting out any voice packs
Anon unless you work for Cover or literally own their stock why are you so angry that Mumei didn't do more to earn money for her employer?

>who did nothing for Cover.
They don't own their Hololive character, channel, or any of the content they create. When they leave to be an indie vtuber they have to start over and can't even mention the years they spent in Hololive. Why do you expect a contractor to have that much loyalty to a company?

>>103670487
Before anyone else responds to you I'm just going to say, kys outfitschizo
Not only did you respond to bullshit, you did it by adding even more bullshit that the other guy will take as truth when you didn't even know that Promise MMDs were released. You just post bullshit and know nothing

>>103670487
>When they leave to be an indie vtuber they have to start over
That's disingenuous as fuck. You don't "start over" after you leave a major corpo. I'm not sure if you realize this but even hitting a triple digit view count consistently puts you in the top 1% of vtubers. Every single Holo who has left the company has received huge benefits due to the exposure Cover gave them and got a new starting point of several thousand viewers; that's top 0.1%.

>>103658411
>Is she aiming to be the new gura?
You're burying the FUCK out of the lede with this comment tbhdesu
Gura would stream below 200 hours an entire year and Nerissa already has that at the half-year mark.
Furthermore her lack stream hours is more forgivable considering she's involved projects that actually come to fruition (and shit like the World Tour were they literally get bared from stream for kayfabe purposes)

>>103667966
>Yes, and her CCV keeps getting worse
She literally has the 2nd best CCV in Advent behind Biboo
Wtf are you talking about?

>>103671957
Gura streamed 102 hours total in all of 2024

>>103672469
Not sure its really a good comparison using someone that already knew they were graduating.

>>103672538
as if she wasn't always a fucking lazy and spoiled brat

>>103655724
Lazy bitch.

>>103670487
>Why do you expect a contractor to have that much loyalty to a company?
Because they made you a millionaire and built your fanbase for you?

>>103672170
No mention of her terrible merch sales, huh? I'll remind you again that she had the worst limited merch sales in the company, and she doesn't have the excuse of "tariffs" because IRyS and Fuwamoco sold their merch easily. The jailbirds are getting sick and tired of being treated like shit by Nerissa.

>>103672675
>as if she wasn't always a fucking lazy and spoiled brat
But enough about Nerissa.

>>103653897
Niji just debuted a girls band generation, I'm keeping an eye on the guitar girl, it's a fun concept.

>>103673855
There is no need to compare they are both lazy as fuck, and both american white girl huh

>>103672170
You think that's impressive? It's just the gura effect, her streams are such a rarity that her fans go out of their way to watch as many streams as possible because they know they could have to wait 2 or 3 weeks until the next stream if they miss it.

>>103673798
>No mention of her terrible merch sales, huh?
No mention of it cause it's bullshit concern trolling
Tariffs have fucked over everyone, whether you choose to play dumb about this is irrelevant when Cover themselves admitted in their quarterly report that sales are down about 50% in the US
You mention Irys but remove that context her merch was for her anniversary and it took the literal FINAL DAY for it to sell out
You mention Fuwawmoco but remove the context that their merch was also for their anniversary, or that fact pandering hard as fuck to Nips has given them an advantage in circumventing not having their sell out because of tariffs
You mention that Nerissa didn't sell her merch out but remove the context that her merch wasn't for anniversary or B-day but for an arbitrary sub-milestone and that she was one of the first ENs to do a limited merch run post-Trump fucking with tariffs
That's also not factoring shit like stock, which we'll NEVER fucking know
>>103674190
>You think that's impressive? It's just the gura effect, her streams are such a rarity
Not really tbqh, she streams on a average of about 2 twice a week, that's like double the frequency of Gura or Mumei for example who'd often go 3 week to a month between streams
Her yearly hour total look like because most of her streams are only 2 hours long, but actually streams on a frequent basis

>>103675376
>Not really tbqh, she streams on a average of about 2 twice a week, that's like double the frequency of Gura or Mumei for example who'd often go 3 week to a month between streams
No, this only applied to Gura. She was on another level below everyone else in Hololive. Even then bragging that you streamed more than the person who streamed the least in the entire company because they already knew they were on the way out is...something.

>>103676341
>Even then bragging that you streamed more than the person who streamed the least in the entire company because they already knew they were on the way out is...something.
Nobody is bragging about that retard, stop trying to pivot and stay on topic
If you're going to cope about her having a good CCV by accusing her abusing rarity buff, then easily can be easily disproven by comparing her to the likes of Gura, Mumei, Marine, Suisei, etc and seeing that has almost triple their stream hours in 2024

>>103676721
I'm not that guy, I just think anyone comparing stream hours to low quantity streamers like Gura is stupid. I've been consistent with this, it's like beating up a baby.
Rarity buff doesn't even exist, it's a cope people often use to try and discredit numbers of people they don't like when it's far more likely that when someone doesn't stream much, people lose the habit of watching their streams and they slowly drift away and the numbers go down.
What does exist is buffed event stream numbers and when someone does stream less it means that the streams they do are likely to be tourist heavy event streams or streams with wide appeal rather than slop gaming.
Also, having better CCV for normal streams than FWMC or Shiori is not really brag-worthy. FWMC are the strongest in EN when it comes to 3D live numbers but for their normal streams they don't really do stuff that's good for CCV - see their current stream for example

>>103677035
He didn't mention that Fuwamoco and Shiori both get better viewrship than her in multi PoV Advent collabs.

>>103677035
Yeah Nerissa doing few streams but having them be tourist heavy streams such as family streams or streaming immediately after every graduation works in her favor.

>>103654298
>*Imagine if Gura and Mumei weren't lazy whores
FTFY

>>103653496 (OP)
Edit this into me and Nerissa and I will, or Nerissa and Lap+ and i'll laugh

>>103654298
Cover didn't fight that hard despite Nerissa using her own cash with her sister for Lilium and doing everything right by the copyright holder, she moved on. On top of using her own resources for her covers and projects she had the beginning of this year. So I don't know what you're on about other than a contrived way to do Holo vs. Holo.

>>103675376
Shipping sucked before tariffs. Tariffs made it worse. The whole point in having an NA office was to sell that merch to NA without the international shipping. What happened to that?

>>103678593
>The whole point in having an NA office was to sell that merch to NA without the international shipping.
Wrong. The whole point of having an NA office was mandatory sensitivity training

>>103678593
This would require them opening up a distribution location in LA. I wholeheartedly agree they should do this, but Cover probably doesn't believe they'll make an extra $300-500k/yr in sales to cover the expenses.

>>103653897
The joke is Holo has those specific musicians but just uses them for singing?

>>103653496 (OP)
OVERRIDE OVERRIDE OVERRIDE OVERRIDE

>>103654624
>blocks your path
>decides she doesn't feel like it.

>>103684958
ERB is the most overrated singer in holoEN. Everyone praises her like she's the second coming of Elvis of somesuch. Meanwhile she's just above average and absolutely no better than Nerissa or IRyS.

>>103670487
>Why do you expect a contractor to have that much loyalty to a company?
She could have just never joined, stayed poor/irrelevant and left a slot to a motivated person.

>>103653496 (OP)
>Apologize
I don't think she needs our validation, Mate.

>>103687482
She does. She's a needy woman who craves validation and acknowledgement.

>>103685251
As a person who did showchoir, I know people like ERB and Rissa just enjoys people who have talent, but also diminishes her own while doing that. ERB has the talent, but kinda just goes all over, its pretty obvious even being the younger performer, Rissa has been whipped by circumstances (where she told us about knowing what it means to lose your voice and seeing it with her sister), so she has better control. I'd say nobody really probably tried to give ERB more control in her lessons or she didn't listen. Which will come to bite her if she doesn't take it easy. You don't try to take the audience to church every song, it sounds cool to people who aren't really aware and just go "that's cool!" at everything. But you're playing with fire with your voice. She does a lot of ad-lib to cover when she does have issues with it, while the "she's bad at karaoke" people who complain about Rissa mistake when her control and honesty when she has flubs for being "bad". ERB has just as many but scatmans her way through it. So rather than better, I would say as a technical artist, IRyS and Rissa are better while ERB has more power and projection in her voice than them, but is all over the place with it.

>>103687682
explain how this works with ERB being older and yet not having destroyed her voice

>>103687732
It can happen for anyone at anytime, like I said, it happened for Rissa's older sister and why she instilled being so careful with Rissa. And ERB scatmans through parts where she obviously has a hard time, instead of just singing the song without all the flourish. Even Rissa, as nice as she is, you can see her noticing when ERB pushes her voice unnecessarily. She just goes whoa and doesn't say it upfront. You don't tempt fate when your career depends on your voice.

>>103685251
Nerissa and IRys cannot reach the low notes like Elizabeth, Nerissa is the best in High notes of the 3 tho.
IRys is just good, she cannot excel like the other 2.

That's why "BloodRaven" is a good pair, and CC showed it by putting those 2 together in her Violin streaming.

>>103687682
the "scatman" and lack of control of ERB is something i already read in other post and it is wrong. She showed how she can control her voice and when she goes all out it's because she wants, it's not about lack of control, but rather having fun during exibition. Indeed you will not hear such "lack of control" in her covers.

She can be serious when she wants, and she will go all out if she wants.

>Many of the girls are loaded up on projects and can’t stream regularly
>”L-LAZY WHORES!”
This isn’t a Gura/Ame/Fauna/Mumei situation where they either won’t stream if you put a gun to their heads or refuse to do anything except sit on their asses. They’re working but the blithering retards don’t see streams and start throwing fits.

>>103690303
Advent/Justice are just hardworking people, there is no point comparing them to Myth/Council

>>103656370
Nailed it.

>>103660671
Because Nerissa didn't remove the bad apples when it was early, and that culture, even subconscious, spread.

Just compare Nerissa threads here to the rest of advent.

>>103654298
Investment in, investment out