Thread 103657544

Another Graduation fellas

>>103657544 (OP)
>wind
>white background
Yep. It checks out.

literally who? what's globie

who

>EN grifters leaving
Good.

>>103657544 (OP)
Double graduation?
https://x.com/RhubarbNKustard/status/1957701861571477734

>>103657544 (OP)
Well, Hamilton won't be the only depressing British F1 thing this year then

Make it triple!

https://x.com/VanceVanCreed/status/1957760189181862271

>>103657692
GLOBIE IMPLOSION

>>103657544 (OP)
>>103657692
>>103657744
Is globie dying???

>>103657692
Kani's been hinting at returning for a months now

>>103657782
Globie died the moment they fired a member because they thought her mafia lore was based on real life, this is just the aftershock.

Thr only thing I know about globie is that Bonnie seems to be doing alright. Did they have some drama or something?

>>103657839
They did have controversial double termination few months ago

>>103657808
Wait, they did? lmao

Only the underachievers are leaving. Those with an actual following/profit like Bonnie and cera will remain

>>103657897
Their management don't know english and use google translate to communicate with them. Yes they are this retarded

>>103657933
isnt Kiri one of the faces of globie alongside Bonnie? i would say this is a big graduation for them

>>103657782
mixed gen. DOA!

>>103657990
Not even. Bonnie is a way more successful most people don’t know kiri besides her car niche audience. Bonnie has normie appeal

Bonnie also has nowhere to go, she'd have to go back to that Japanese ojisan for her PL

>>103658083
>most people don’t know kiri besides her car niche audience.
That's probably still more people that anyone in globie that isn't Bonnie.

>>103658083
> Niche audience
You're not wrong, but still :|

>>103658083
Looking at VOD views, Bonnie and Kiri are pretty comparable.

Was this a "donothon and dash" or secret IP fundraiser?
Is Brave different than Cover and Anycolor, and they are willing to sell their IP?

>>103658125
I guess but whatevrr she can just try again as an indie. All I’m saying is theres still big players arround so this isn’t some huge collapse in globie like anons are claiming. Not yet anyway

>>103657544 (OP)
What happened?

>>103658180
It was for her to move IIRC
... Which I guess she's also moving away from globie kek

>>103657544 (OP)
NOOOOO NOT THE SEXO GIRAFFE

>>103657544 (OP)
LETS FUKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>103658517
Please don't go back to the Loli design
Please don't repeat the mistake again

>>103658517
A horny highschooler getting a model from her favourite hentai artist will never stop being funny to me.

>>103658517
Nice maebari

>>103657808
>>103657951
wtf

>>103658537
She's gonna go back to the cat

>>103658517
God I hope the loli comes back. it was so cute

>>103658517
She learned her lesson the hard way. She was quite lucky that Globie actually took off for her as other corpos had likely shut the door on her over the rebrand debacle.
>>103658537
Will be interesting to see if she goes back to the panda or does something similar to Kiri. The panda did do some racing games for a while and that is what likely sparked it.
>>103658580
It was the right model for the right person, she wasn't the right person and if she wanted to do it she should have done it via an alt account. She should have just sold it to a fansly coomer.

>>103657782
Globie went down the drain after they fired Squirmimi and the mafia girl. Then they started to clamp down on social media usage and a lot of them were pissed off.
Unlike V4Mirai which is run by Brave USA, Globie is run by Brave Europe which is really a bunch of Japanese workers working out of Japan. It's basically no fun allowed.

>>103657544 (OP)
Total Brave Group (black company) Death

>>103658683
Ah. that's why they seemed so familiar. they were the mafia chick

I'm not a racing video games fan so despite being someone who watches a lot of 3view small-corpo/indies I never watched her.
Globie is alright with me as long as they keep letting the cow and the big eared green woman continue to do "relaxing" ASMR content.

>>103658683
Squirmimi was justified though they went about it the most retarded way, firing the mafia girl was just absolutely retarded

>>103658683
Wasn't Globie management changed after that shit show?

>>103658683
How are those two doing now?

>>103658517
Imagine admitting it was all for clippers and numbers lmao

>>103658730
Don't forget they tried to make her sign something saying that she had disgraced the company and that she wasn't involved in yakuza activities.
>>103658758
Can't comment on mafia girl but Snailmimi went super coomer and tweeted about squirting and fully inserting a dildo that wasn't coming out.

Once again the bitch is just a grifter. Took another donathon money and ran away.

>>103658757
the guy that left joined hololive
unfortunately I am not joking

>>103658757
Seems to have got worse given the social media policy, seems that Globie now are managing their accounts directly.
Globie didn't handle things well and it seems that there is going to be a few departures. Just before Vexpo might I add!

>>103657594
A mixed male and female vtubing branch owned by brave
They aren't even popular enough to have their own general and need to discuss their streams in the v4mirai general which is the female only idol branch of brave that people actually care about

>>103658659
How did her main audience react to the rebrand? Her primary platform was bilibili.

>>103659080
Universally hated

>>103658909
I'm trying, but I really can't undestand the reason for such a thing from the point of view of management

>>103658517
I don’t even see any videos of the bottom model on her channel now. I remember it causing a controversy, guess it got memoryholed.

>>103657744
I checked, he got like 20 viewers, is he even get sc?

>>103659080
Her main audience was Twitch, the Lolicons hated it, the new people she tried to attract with it didn't exceed the Lolicons that left so she caved in and went back to the pandering

>>103659167
When bilibili went puritanical she wiped the second model from existence on all platforms. She found a new artist (old one went dark before she commissioned the hentai model) for the panda before going to głównie, do she might have a new model ready.

>>103659025
Check out Uniraid, another mixed Vtuber agency.

>>103659224
She didn't give a shit about that. She gave a shit once twitter got hold of that comparison image and started clowning on her

>>103659080
It was very out of place and ill fitting. Plus Bilibili hate coomer models so she was losing that too. She actually had a variation of the titty model that was more covered up but the chinks didn't pass that either.
That model would have worked for the right person especially nowadays with the rise of Fansly accounts but she was not a coomer streamer. She should have just sold the model and used the funds on something else.
I do think that clipfags played their part to blame though as all they were doing was clipping VShojo and orbiters like the whore clan. She thought that the panda model couldn't be clipped, she went the wrong way about it.

>>103659280
The point of the model switch was to grow her audience

>>103658889
Suddenly that explains a lot.

>>103659224
I don't think her numbers recovered because she outright stated the change was for her to get picked up by lewd clippers

>>103658909
I'm uh, finding that hard to believe anon. This happened just the other day. A full Globie gen 1 collab (where Pippa Pebblesworth is now being played by Penny Puffball) that was streamed by everyone involved. I just can't see Globie has being some hawkish brute controlling the girls while letting their talents collab with someone who left globie and debuted just a couple of weeks earlier.

>>103659281
Oh its a grifter, I suddenly no longer give a fuck about this vtuber

>>103659281
this will always be the funniest part of the whole saga

>>103659323
All she did was lose her audience though, as said before if she wanted to experiment with the model she should have just used a second account and kept it separately from Shizukou. Had she done this, she could have limited the damage. Found the Bilibili alt outfit btw.
>>103659355
In all fairness I don't think Penny burned Globie on the way out and she did leave on decent terms. The social media policy was likely due to DM issues or them being afraid that people would talk the remaining talent into quitting.

>2 globies die
bonj...

>>103657782
>No one in the small corpo audience wants to watch male vtubers or associate them because they unironically are there to try to date their 3 view oshi
>waste half the budget on male vtubers praying one is a top 1% niji level entertainer
as >>103658075 said DOA

>>103659025
boonie is the only one in globie worth a damn and that's because she knows how to handle her gooner fanbase and works her ass off.

what the fuck is Kiri going to do as an indie?

>>103657544 (OP)
Mimi is laughing right now, kek.

>>103659785
Phasing in for gen4

>>103657544 (OP)
Welcome back Shizukou, hopefully with a good looking model.

>>103658683
Squirmimi is just retarded but they definitely mishandled the French girl she’s alright.
But she isn’t even streaming on her alt anymore

>>103657933
pretty sure Kiri was the second in terms of numbers behind bonnie.

>>103657544 (OP)
the racing bit is so boring, i'm glad she's back to being a panda

>>103657544 (OP)
Nijiniggers keep losing lol

>>103657544 (OP)
WHO

>>103658180
i'm scared to ask how much she made. i'm sure it was some silly amount even though she's this small

I hope Alicja doesn't join the graduations....

>>103660496
I feel like anyone not leaving now either genuinely believes in Globie, or is hoping to hang in there until the place shuts down and they can get their IP

>>103659379
She unironically got better. One of the few redemption arcs in vtubing.

>>103660548
>hoping to hang in there until the place shuts down and they can get their IP
Brave is 100% going to sell their IPs to them for more than the cost of the models and not give them for free

>>103660681
>leaves because no money
Right

>>103661054
Nothing wrong with that, she's not a serf who can't change her workplace.

>>103657544 (OP)
Damn. I wonder how long Bonnie has left.
Kiri's like the only other name I recognized from there

>>103660772
Didnt they offer a revenue sharing thing for a few months when they bought Idol?

>>103661212
One year IIRC

First it was blue Pippa, now Kiri. Not to mention the two terminations earlier this year. I don't foresee the corpo making it to 2026, with or without Bonnie.

>>103661212
Yeah but that was a one-time offer only for the idol talents and only when they bought the corpo.

>>103657544 (OP)
EN5

0shirko and Muku Mamai are also Globie graduations, so we could be getting more if Rhubarb and Kiri stick to their OG accounts

>>103662147
One of the m*les is going too

>>103661369
Globie dies if Bonnie quits.

>>103662147
>0shirko and Muku Mamai
Who are those two?

>>103658659
>>103659231
>>103659281
>>103660129
Do any of guys pls have the name of her panda persona?

>>103662147
>0 subs
which one are you?

>>103662445
Their twitters were posted in the v4 thread, I presume someone noticed that some relevant account just followed them

>>103659195
During his peak sexpesting days last year he was getting about 10-15 viewers so 20 is an improvement

>>103658655
she had already gone back to the loli before her graduation

Rhubarb was doing better on her indie account anyway

>>103661369
The corpo is Brave, who owns VSpo. Globie is merely a subsidiary.

She's getting re:looped to join her fellow /slags/

>>103662184
oh I'm aware. Even if you assume one is the male, then there's still a 4th graduation potentially, for example

>>103662678
This one maybe?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HKhi2AejiSw

>>103662584
Is Re:Loop full of ex-corpo girls?

>>103662818
Holy shit. Yep, she's 0shirko I guess since she has a utaite tag

So, who's Muku?

>>103658103
Bonnie would unironically go to Phase Connect.
Retards thought Blue Pippa was going there off of the back of a random collab she had with Pippa and nobody knew her like that.

Bonnie on the other hand goes way way back with Phase, specifically Tenma, Lia and Lumi. She adores them and if they offered she would join tomorrow.

Brave has no idea what they are doing in EN. v4m is the biggest money pit in vtubing they stay alive just to force Mariya into concerts.
The ex-small corpo market is a comfy place where you can have a career and merch/convention support thanks to Kawa, AegisLink, and New Horizons but it is getting over saturated it basically feels like the 150 VSMP vtubers are all already apart of one giga cattle call corpo and then have their sub factions within that 150 group.

>>103657951
That's some next level retardation if true kek

>>103659132
Just Brave Group things, they love to sabotage themselves with micromanagement even more than the average JP corpo

i am shocked Mint hasn't signed with a Brave EN subsidiary yet. Go for the hat trick of picking to work for black companies

>>103663093
I agree. Who are the indie Thunderbolts?

>>103663296
I mean, she was going to sell out to VShojo and look how that turned out. Someone probably told her to avoid Brave.

>>103663093
They managed to get funds using early projections of growth for global vtubing and probably before the interest rates went up. There is no chance they can get a sensible ROI on that level of investment, so I imagine the higher ups are just coasting and trying to get as much money out of the company without alerting investors.

>>103663093
with the exception of like the 3 or 4 top girls, the vsmp horde are basically nameless faceless power ranger putties that all blend together

>>103663296
negotiations have been underway

the ex-small corpo giant friend group will get cut throat next con season when the 3d concert craze becomes accessible to them, and there are only a couple spots available then the knives will come out.
those 3d concerts are coveted and feel like they are bucket list badges, even more so if they manage to have one at a convention those don't really happen unless you are a giga indie like doki or in a corpo because conventions don't want to work with indie groups

>>103663100
It's not true. Two recent hires, a frog and a bong, tried to pull a selen. They got shit from the company for colouring outside the lines and escalated it into termination because woman moment. The frog got a good story going but made some mistakes along the way that doesn't discredit it entirely but shows that she lied about details she had no reason to lie about.

so 4 graduations coming up for Globie tomorrow? I could see Bonnie leaving after the UK con. She got her playbutton she already won. she is a highly likely Phase poach

>>103663661
They probably are all leaving after Vexpo as Globie will be at the event. Imagine being staff for them at that event, so awkward, good thing most of them only speak Jap.

>>103663661
At least 4, yes. Muku is either the homo or a 5th graduation

>>103663646
whatever happened to them? their 15 minutes of fame ended are they big hits after the drama?

>>103663396
A lot of those 3views make a pretty good amount of money though

>Miki coming back
>Kani coming back
big month for 2020fags

unrelatedly I found out through the follower chain who Kohaku is, and I saw blood red because he’s the same fucker who dated/is dating my old 2view oshi who went super menhera after graduating to be with him

>>103657692
I still can't believe they really called someone Rhubarb N' Kustard.

>>103663688
the colours match bonnie a bit

>>103663698
you can make better money getting an actual job. hidden perk there being you can also look yourself in the mirror and be proud of the work you do, not being an online asmr whore and fansly whore to make money the sleazy way

Another mixed gender corpo dying an unceremonious death. Wonder if AegisLink will backpeddle on plans to debut a male gen?

>>103663749
Bonnie had a well known PL

>>103663696
They tried to keep the momentum going but you know how it goes

>>103663783
which is the one Twisty completely shit on in her manifesto?

>>103663771
Aegis already have, they mentioned them during the audition phase and have since never once mentioned males ever debuting. They never intended on ever debuting males, it’s just they didn’t want to get sued, and because it’s more PR for them as a fly trap
>>103663749
I could see that, I remember she’s an artist too so maybe she drew her icon and logo

>>103663750
>you can make better money getting an actual job
>not being an online asmr whore and fansly whore to make money the sleazy way
The ones I was referencing aren't doing either of those things. Not sure what threads you frequent but your weird projection is painfully obvious.

>>103663811
>They never intended on ever debuting males
Didn't the ceo talk about mixed gender collabs being a core part of the corpos identity in the company manifesto?

>>103663886
Yes but that’s obviously not a thing anymore, it’s like that one Stalin meme of the guy disappearing

squirmimi won
idk why or how but she sounded kinda vindictive so it's true

>mal*s
deserved

>>103663927
Her complaining about gooners after getting her initial popularity off of a tweet about her armpits smelling like cum never sat right with me

>>103658580
Sad, really.
Didn't know that's where it came from though.

>>103663927
sadly she is a blown out whore

>>103664084
You would still line up outside her hotel room if she did a fuck a fan event at VeXpo though.

>>103663991
and now she's stuck with a dildo in her ass
sad

>>103663411
She's also been part of a bunch of stuff with Mariya, but yeah that's not happening
She'd probably have fun in V4 from what I've heard. I don't think I've heard anything bad about that group and they're constantly given new shit like 3D models.

Brave is definitely some kind of money laundering scheme and v4's endless resources feel like proof of that

bonnie is the most obvious phase connect poach since purin
https://youtu.be/znXTRFeWmhI?t=3180
https://youtu.be/znXTRFeWmhI?t=3553
https://youtu.be/znXTRFeWmhI?t=3846
https://youtu.be/znXTRFeWmhI?t=5283
https://youtu.be/znXTRFeWmhI?t=4056

>>103664131
Did it come out or did she have to go to the ER?

>>103663927
She's off her meds right now

>>103664147
Mint would have fun with v4m because they are owned and operated by a black company, and Mint has a fetish for working for black companies

>>103664421
All vtuber companies are black companies so that's not saying much

Taring is graduating too

>>103663093
Wait, kawa still alive??

>>103664553
they are dead as a corpo, but they do small vtuber merch and stuff

>>103664553
They were always a merch company, but they tried branching out to an agency, but it didn't work out. The main business is still running.

>>103664521
*except hololive (or cover in general)

>>103664632
lmao no

Every agency has their warts, so it just comes down to can you get the most of your time in an agency than they get from you?

Some girls come out on top, not just from a numbers standpoint either.

Is there any corpo that has ever survived the loss of about a third of its talent all at once (including the 2nd most subscribed one)?

>>103664756
brave is turbobotted and a decent platform to advertise yourself, you'll see their real impact once they leave and after the drama buff that follows a graduation chain

>>103664798
HoloEN

but what about the males, they sinking with the ship?

>>103657544 (OP)
She'll be back as an indie, ready for another car chuuba?

>>103664756
There are maybe 1-2 girls per small corpo that can say they “won.” Phase are the exception they have like 8

>>103664833
Technically incorrect, also you know what I meant

>>103664864
What will be this time, Ren Auhlt?

>>103664798
Idol

And just like them, Globie will be fine as long as Brave is willing to keep carrying them.

>>103664798
v&u is close

>>103664218
Don't even need to watch her stream considering she's orbiting their chats all the time.

>>103664952
>idol
>the company that lost over 1.1 million subs
>the company that got killed and rebranded and has no momentum whatsoever and just spinning their wheels going nowhere in the small corpo dregs
So nobody

>>103662558
And how long do you think the subsidiary company is gonna last?
Saturn and Pontiac were subsidiaries of GM, and they went under despite other GM subsidiaries like Chevy and Buick still being around. And if you want me to stay in the vtuber industry for my comparisons, remember that Niji India, Niji ID, Niji KR, Niji Shanghai, Niji Taipei, and Yumenographia were subsidiaries of Anycolor; none survived, despite how well the subsidiary company Nijisanji proper was and still is doing.
Do you really think that VSPO and V4M doing well is gonna save Globie? Do you really think Chromashit not having a foot in the grave yet somehow means that Globie doesn't have a foot in the grave?

>>103657544 (OP)
I am not trying to be mean, but if this is the best piece of fanart I can find for my graduation, I'd do it too.

>>103664798
V&U and months later some regret leaving

>>103664944
>Ren Auhlt
my sides, good one anon

>>103664922
Kawaii managed to shit out one last gen and go on for another year after vdere abandon ship

>>103664968
I swear I had to check because I was sure that V&U closed up shop. Who knows what other small corpo I confused them with

>>103664991
V4M just exists. They arent doing well or thriving.

>>103664993
Isn’t that the one where one of the girls tried to pull a Selen shock (minus the an hero attempt) and no one cared?

>>103664147
V4 stealth fired Abi and a lot of the other graduates have complained about management being retarded too

>>103664991
not that anon, but no
it makes sense to shutter globie

vspo is kinda seperate from everything else because they have their own management and staff, while v4m is directly under brave US (and globie is brave EU)
meaning that vspo en isn't under brave US, they have their own limited management from vspo proper

>>103664798
Survived? Yes.
Thrived? Nope. Mass graduations happen for a reason, and it is because the group is sour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlFV9693-A0

And then there were five

Maybe Bonnie can pull a Nova from vreverie: show loyalty for a minute and then agree to an IP buyout

>>103665095
Hu?

>>103664147
>>103663093
They're not putting Mariya in concerts, she had to become a producer because she felt she'd never make her dream of performing on stage a lot if she just let V4mirai management do it for her. The only thing they did is the 3d model

>>103665145
The first baseman.

>>103664991
Brave is in a very peculiar situation. They have a lot of cash and equivalents and no idea how to invest it. In the EN market they don't have any success story they could build on.

>>103665116
The survivors are probably hoping they give/sell the IP away when they shut down

>>103664952
Idol is a shell of its former self, I wouldn't wish its fate to anyone

>>103665210
Their claim to fame is having Gigi for 6 weeks
None of their other talents popularity feel organic it feels fake

>>103665210
Brave has always been pretty incompetent. Their crown jewel was a group they bought and don’t let their own management team touch for fear of fucking it up (VSPO).

>>103665251
Because it is fake. They are botted to high hell. They got mass demonstration because of botted viewers and subs.

>>103665228
Idol died when they fired Tomer. None of the girls have done horny content on main since then (yes I know about Coni, but that was on PL and not on main)

>>103662821
Unless I'm schizoing too hard I believe three out of four are former corpo.

>>103665228
Being the horny loli corpo was really the main thing they had going for them besides Rin having a completely seperate fanbase

>>103665164
>>103665065
Well, that's bleak.

>>103665326
Botted to 200 viewers?

>>103665451
they sub bots are more obvious but yeah, they also bot ccv

>>103658517
kek what a grifting KWAB

I think what happens is Brave does yet another company realignment, where Bonnie and the remainder get put into whatever the clusterfuck Idol became. Or they reallign and then give the Globie girls a chance to buy their IP's like they did with original Idol.

They have to be careful with how they handle Bonnie I will tell you that right now she has the right friends in the right places and any wrongdoing with her would lead to a shit storm that could put serious smoke on all of Brave EN

>>103665671
That's a weird way of saying she pegs false in vrchat (on stream).

>>103665059
https://x.com/alien_mixture/status/1956313293389181017
she’s still trying to grift

>>103665763
I'm more so talking about Bao and that mafia over there. Bao and Bonnie have been friends for a long time

>>103657692
QUINTUPLE GRADUATION
It's actually over

>>103657951
>watching jp corpo chuubas
Great!
>working for a jp corpo as a foreigner
Not even once

>>103662331
Shizukou

>>103664989
You forgot
>the company that got multiple talents demonetized from youtube and couldn't correct it for 3-4 months in some cases.

>>103664798
>Maeve walked to join vhojo
>Suri walked to join pixel
>Spectra walked to join globie
>Liora walked to join glitchstars

a graduation announcement relay, that's a new one.

>>103657808
Wait what?

>>103657735
Not while Norris exists.

>>103657544 (OP)
Maybe not graduation. Just leaving Globie

>>103657544 (OP)
Wonder if she's going to larp as a /o/tist as an indie now, it was about all she had going for her

>>103657544 (OP)
Did Kiri also play racing games on her PL? That's literally why I subscribed to her

>>103666009
Thanks man, I was a bit confused who's who

>>103664798
Kawaii lived for another year after losing 1/3 gens and debuted 2 more. By all accounts they were profitable and successful when their corporate overlord wrote them off.

>>103666624
She did, I imagine she will try to keep that niche.

>>103666624
she did an NFSU2 series and dabbled in a couple other racers but it was maybe 10% of her total content

Her design was sex, RIP.

>>103667436
>By all accounts they were profitable and successful when their corporate overlord wrote them off.
lmao
corporate overlords care about 1 thing: making money.
kawaii made no money except for nene. if you listen to their exit interviews, kawaii talents like isla even admitted she felt like they failed because they themselves didn't bring in a lot of money and if she had done more, then maybe things would have been better

kawaii survived a year after gen3 left, but the damage of mass graduation is unrecoverable. you can survive, but you will never thrive. the damage is done.

I hope that in her next iteration Kiri can be really successful and happy. She's fun to watch.

>Vexpo is coming up
>the biggest UK vtuber con
>globie is the UK corpo
>globie is a sponsor and they are all over it
>half the talents are leaving
bad timing. globie couldnt have stalled until October?

>>103667633
Right? It’s so stupid

>>103663771
The tide has shifted so much on mixed gender vtubing content in such a short amount of time, it's hard to keep up with.
Feels like everyone was trying to do mixed gens back just 2 years ago

>>103660496
I think Ala has some kind of deal with Globie where they hire her for art stuff sometimes so leaving would cut that off.

>>103667633
Brave are retards and don't know what they are doing. Reminder they decided to rebrand Idol Corpo 2 days before OffKai, despite all of the promotion for their concerts and stuff being Idol. They had mixed branding at the event some stuff was Chroma other stuff was Idol. Just confusing business.

>>103664521
>>103664679
Ah, the "corpo vs indie" zealots, of course

>>103667633
They had exclusive merch and a whole isekai themed event, baffling

>>103660496
Already confirmed no announcements from her. As did Bonnie.

>>103657544 (OP)
The only thing i know about this corpo is that one of them was simping hard for Flayon in his chat but then left IMMEDIATELY after Shiori (or was it ERB?) showed up

>>103667818
Cera also did on her alt

>>103658659
>>103658537
>>103658517
Ah it was that vtuber who grifted with tits and lost her viewers

>>103657782
Dude the males are 1views what do you think all the males do is ride off the coat tails of bigger corpo vtuber and they still can’t keep viewership

>>103664218
>>103667361
Someone at globie is either getting sweaty hag sex or she's got some massive dirt on someone.

>>103659025
>A mixed male and female vtubing branch
Into the trash it goes.

>>103668734
She’s just actually successful in the branch

>>103668734
>>103663093
>>103664147
Just because globie was in the red and couldn't survive on it's own doesn't mean V4 is on the same situation

>>103670126
The V4 girls have been dooming for a while, even more today

>>103670126
>they are all raised by the same parent company that is black as hell and has numerous scandals ranging from va replacement to getting mass demonetized for botting
>idol is a disaster
>globie is a disaster
>v4m is the perfect angel that dindu nuffin things are great everybody is thriving i swear just listen bro

>>103670254
VSPO! is fine though.

>>103670126
nobody in v4m, or any Brave EN subsidiary, makes any money
their superchats are in the toilet
if the Brave EN companies were based on if they made money or not, literally none of them would exist. They are like 5 mini WNBAs.

>>103665059
>>103665815
Isn't this exactly what she said she'd do last year (If she doesn't make it big as a vtuber she won't prioritize it anymore)
I'm not seeing a grift.
Also V&U tried to charge her 400k USD for leaving and said they were going to sue her outright for slander and leaking info (about the little graduation fee).

>>103670366
You could use their stream chats for a thesis on dead internet theory

>>103670366
Brave bought VSPO, but VSPO continues to run operations themselves.
Brave bought Idol, but Idol did not continue running operations (they did a different kind of "running")
Globie and V4M are both run by Brave.

>>103670366
no entity under the Brave umbrella is fine. They are a legit black company that has always done things the wrong way and have a terrible history and history literally keeps repeating itself you are posting in a thread about how there are about to be 5 graduations in 24 hours. That is not an indictment on any of the talents it is not their fault, it just is what it is.

>>103670553
Kek

Her Kiri model was great, shame

>>103670430
> nobody in v4m, or any Brave EN subsidiary, makes any money
Some do, but not by streaming

>>103670681
>$60,000 a year
that isn't a lot in 2025, especially if not streaming picking up passive donos etc and after everybody gets their cut

not that Brave companies are pressed for money. They have all the money in the world and keep trying to buy and fake their way into popularity and it has failed at every turn. They throw money at things expecting to have hits and it doesn't work.

>>103670366
Want a keyboard? Want 400 keyboards?

>>103657839
They're probably keeping her because she's the only one that found any measure of success.
picrel it's management

>>103670823
Plus the additional work her PL still does.

>>103670681
Does Brave get a cut from Patreon?

>>103662331
Namechama it's literally written on the image two replies above you...

all of the brave agencies are poisoned timebombs everybody knows their rep.

idk what it says about small corpos that phase connect and vallure are the only 2 that made it

i guess would pump the brakes on vallure they are still a baby company wait until they get to year 3. a lot of small corpos started a year 3 and never made it to year 4

>>103671684
And a shit load of small corpos never made it to their first anniversary

>>103664147
>She's also been part of a bunch of stuff with Mariya
Yeah but that was more about making dreams come true for her fan chuubas like Isla and Naki and Beri. Poor Emuri....
>>103662860
>>103664218
Strange, I would have thought she'd get along better with Uruka than any of those three.
>>103665360
If that's what it would have taken for them to succeed, better to fail.

>>103665427
It's a shame because Rin is actually talented. Juna and Nikki too but yeah you know what I mean

>>103665833
Wait, what?
>>103667361
Bruh, she's not supposed to make it this obvious that they're graduation announcements even though it already is obvious
>>103670681
To be fair it would have been much the same for her as an indie.

>>103671684
Unlike 90% of other small corpos, Vallure wasn't founded by some outsider looking to make a profit off vtubing, It was founded by a group of vtubers.

>>103671925
>It was founded by a group of vtubers.
By one specifically with a chip on her shoulder and money in the bank.

>>103672297
one that is hellbent on building a corpo that sells itself on the same principles that vshojo and idol corp spent years jerking themselves off in public about and ended up not making any economic sense
I give it a year before they all jump ship and we find out the corp doesn't have the money to set up merch or events since they went with the 80/20 split for twitter points and it's run by a retard

>>103672371
What events? Aren't they just an ASMR group? I don't see them doing music or concerts or 3D or whatever.

>>103672424
they don't even do merch and their second gen had so little money that they went with the cheapest indies for their watchalongs
the only reason I knew they had a gen 2 is because para did the most lazy watchalong I've ever seen

>>103672371
But their USP is being actual whores on stream, and that is a product as old as time. VShojo and Idol etc were just incidental whores rather than making it a core selling point, whilst most other failed corps were just flavors of Hololite.

>>103672672
>and that is a product as old as time
exactly, and it's a saturated market, bao does drugs and does anal in 3D on her alt
best gen 2 can do is the robot monstergirl that's obese Irl shaking her fupa on a small cam and trying way too hard while wearing the cheapest darkstalkers cosplay

>>103672782
The internet has unlimited porn for free, but people still blow fortunes on particular girls they make a connection/develop an obsession with. It is a differentiator from all the other small corps who have come and gone doing the same copy paste of the Holo/Niji model.

>>103672948
Yes but the whole point of having a corp is to have a larger budget and a bigger team to do projects with,
Things you can't do on 80/20 contracts
At some point the girls will just go "why do I even pay you? Give me back my 20%" and fuck off

>>103671811
the list of small corpos that died before their first anni is small
year 3 if the big year when plugs get pulled, that is why last year was a blood bath. only phase connect has made it to year 4

>>103671622
vallure sure as fuck has not made it lmao

>>103674132
Vallure hasn't made it for fame but they've made it monetarily. they have no real brand toxicity so far, have decent enough income and they have almost no expenditures due to Stronny seeding the company meaning they have no debts to pay off (which is what usually kills small corpos like this)

>>103671892
>Strange, I would have thought she'd get along better with Uruka than any of those thre
why would you think that?

>>103674767
the downside is they are whores. there is no upside vtubing wise for them they are what they are.
no major convention will welcome them as guests and they will never have 3d concerts at cons. that is fine because they are whores and are not actual vtubers so why would they care about those ambitions

>>103674828
They show up at literally every con nonny, I just checked and they're going to one I'm going to soon. Why would you lie about something that's so easy to falsify nonny??? Are you stupid? emotional perhaps??

>>103675544
said major con

>>103659281
most vtubers are grifters like this one here btw.

>>103673030
The moment girls realize how little the company does for them and have a relatively stable paypig income is when they start jumping ship. That's the danger with these small corpos face when girls start gaining popularity.

>>103664993
>>103665059
I'm out of the loop, what happened with v&u

>>103671011
Using their ip, most likely they will get a cut.

>>103676000
it all comes down to the ambitions of these prospective small corpo girls.
if they are content just being another random face in the vsmp mob and make part time job money, then having a cup of coffee as a small corpo to become friends with them and then having an easy friend group landing spot is the move

if they want something more, then stick it out and maybe your small corpo can become players of some kind like how phase connect did and you have a chance to be something more. more than a number more than just a face in the crowd.

>>103677077
Amano Serafi sent in a request to graduate. V&U responded by sending her an invoice for around $450,000 USD, including $20k for essentially "et cetera"
She is now AlienMixture of Socks

>>103667436
kawaii were ahead of their time with 3d concerts and now that is the meta
if their gen3 never quits like a bunch of babies, the company is likely still around healthy and probably doing multiple 3d concerts per year
atletta and oceane were 2 cash cows. them + nene was a very viable top 3
but nooooooo gen3 quit because they joined an idol company and didn't want to do idol stuff and have all the money go towards idol concerts. vdere could be doing 3d concerts at offkai and vexpo instead of doing lame glorified karaoke on the side stage as they've been doing as vtuber friend group #19

>>103678581
HAHAHAHA what the actual fuck. I need the info on this holy shit

>>103657544 (OP)
New Phase gen is gonna be weird.

>>103678581
jesus

>>103678899
If Oceane wasn't a doxxfag and management didn't fuck up their response (not punishing her for doxxing the rest of gen 3), things might've played out differently. Not to mention they played by the JP perms system and their management team didn't believe in digital marketing.

>>103678899
I think if Gen3 never quit, kawaii would probably be sitting at the ChromaShift level. They never had the it factor. Idol EN had it for a few months there were it looked like they were gonna solidly pass Phase Connect after Rin & Yuko got algo'd and then a very strong Gen2 debut
but at the end of the day, being at ChromaShift level that is probably enough isn't it? Join a corpo to get started, maybe you get to travel to do 3D concerts, do convention circuits, maybe you get lucky and get a playbutton, make some money and friends along the way, collab with your oshis. If you can do that then what more are you hoping to get out of this? those are the ultimate win conditions as small agency vtubers.

>>103678899
... if you close your eyes...
https://youtu.be/hQrNdJ4U7EU
https://youtu.be/IFa39yiPPwk
https://youtu.be/DkPQplRx2oo
https://youtu.be/v30SPRMkIEM
https://youtu.be/7WvA4mZBxU4

Go watch Isla's indie concert as well
https://youtu.be/X_5GvJ-otc0

>>103679240
i will never understand why people who cant dance insist on doing 3d concerts just stick to 2d singing

>>103679210
idk
aletta had some juice. she got to 100k fast like in 6 months, inclining viewership was hitting 400 regularly which was a shit load at the time, was an early neuro sama collaber. people forget but at the time gen3 quit kawaii, it was a 3 way dead heat between them, phase, and idol with phase being very cold at that point until pippa did the hogwarts publicity stunt and even then things were still kinda cold for them until offkai.
but then gen3 set the company back. there is no telling the what ifs with them if all 5 stayed

>>103679690

Kawaii outliving Vshojo does sounds hilarious

For those of you who watch the girls, what ere they like?
I know the dude draws, and he may actually be black.

>>103679690
mozzu was selfish and led a pointless mutiny. kawaii could have been contenders they could have been phase connect. instead, they quit, kawaii never recovered, and vdere are just random vtubers in the vsmp horde and cant make it onto convention main stages

>>103680370
I used to watch Taring Hu occasionally, was pretty good but nothing super standout

>>103680370
Reina is cute and has a ball-drainingly hot Spanish accent

>>103680370
>graduation relay

>>103680370
Reina is cute and sex and is a tsundere

>>103680681
Easier to get it done all at once PR-wise

>>103657544 (OP)
"HEY! WHAT HAPPENED?"
And how about a quick rundown?

>>103680370
Jeez!
There's too much
drama for me to
be dealing with.
I'm done!
I'm out.

>>103657544 (OP)
Is she going back to being the panda?

>>103658683
Yeah seems like V4Mirai and Idol are being managed by actual English speakers at least.

who cares, it's a bunch of male collabers

>>103662818
Holy fuck even Reina is leaving. Do any of you know her PL and can drop the name? I want to keep following her if possible.

>>103670126
Yumi's PL is super active. Which gives me reason to believe she might be graduating soon.

>>103680370
Reina, Rhubarb, and Kiri are all pretty damn good. I used to watch Kiri back when she was the panda. I really like her voice.

>>103680370
And so another small corpo dies with a whimper.
Sucks that most of them will also leave for good since there's market oversaturation on both indie and corpo audiences.

>>103663731
You good bro?

>>103657692
Jesus. She and Pebblesworth were actually watchable.
Brave should just scrap globie at this rate. Even v4mirai is doing better

>>103680370
hu is friends with melon (pictured)
she's nice

>>103671622
Phase isn't small.

>>103683283
0shiriko is her new persona

>>103683561
Yes, I’m just shocked that for once the “X male vtuber is a sexpest” was actually true. Dude fucked up Mumu bad

>>103683457
>small corpo

You mean branch. Brave will just keep on trucking

>>103657692
god why would you name urself rhubarb n kustard

>>103657544 (OP)
Isn't this the girl who used to be Shizukou the panda? I used to love watching her all the time but then stopped completely when she started using that disgusting coomerbait model. I was happy when she stopped using that model and returned to the cute panda and was happy to see her doing well in Globie, even if her racing gimmick wasn't for me. If she goes indie I hope she returns to her cute Shizukou panda model and not some coombait model again

>>103684137
if you watch WWE, it's like when an NXT guy comes in and you know right away if they are gonna be a top guy or dead on arrival.
They aren't gonna make Michael McGillicutty or Lance Uppercut world champion.
I can just see the silver playbutton now with "Rhubarb N. Kustard " on it

>>103665251
>Gigi for 6 weeks
what character was she?

>>103684280
it's up there with Pippa Pebbelsworth. Yes, go ahead and name yourself after a controversial figure already in the space and every single day you are gonna be confused for that Pippa and you will never be your own thing and be able to escape it. globie has retarded people naming some of their girls

>>103683359
Her mother has cancer, she won't do anything drastic for a while, but her alt will debut in September (when she also will end her hiatus as Yumi)
>>103684313
Biscotti

>>103684332
According to Blue Pippa, she didn't even know Pippa nor Phase existed when she joined Globie. Pippa is a relatively common name in England, so it makes sense if you're a UK chuuba.
Who chose the name, the company or herself, I'm not sure.

>>103684440
thanks

>>103684458
It's still no excuse. she should have run her name by some of her friends and they would have told her immediately there is another Pippa and she ought to call herself Poppy Pebblesworth or something instead.
there are certain names you don't want to overlap with in the scene for a number of reasons. you will kill your growth and will always live in a shadow of the more popular version of your name

>>103684440
in retrospect biscotti felt like an odd model for her but she worked with it

>>103663933
...What did malls do to piss you off?