Thread 103660201

>your oshi tries to read a long line of text in a game
>they can barely do it
these bitches are retarded bros.........

>>103660201 (OP)
>can't pronounce any word that has more than 8 letters
they are lucky they are charming

I always find it slightly encouraging when they can't read kanji. It makes me feel as though maybe it's fine that I can't either.
Happens a lot in fromsoft games, especially Sekiro.

>>103660201 (OP)
Girls are the cutest when they're a little dumb

>Tutorial pops up
>Giant flashing letters on the top 1/3rd of the screen so they're exactly at eye height to catch your attention
>Doesn't even register that it popped up
>Dies to the next obstacle instantly
>"Chat what was I supposed to do?"

It's been getting really had to watch people stream games lately. Between being unable to read, outright refusing to use mechanics, and skipping tutorials. It hurts and is no longer entertaining.

The worst is collabs. Friendslop collabs. Fuck them. No one has played the game before and it's mostly people walking in circles giggling going "I don't know how to play this do you?"
Just fucking have a chatting stream at that point if you're going to put no effort into the content.

>>103660201 (OP)
If I came for any sort of intelligence then I wouldn't be watching chuubas

>>103660201 (OP)
The retarded ones are really good streamers too. Korone and Miko constantly struggle with kanji. Pekora didn't know her cardinal directions.

>>103661246
I know women IRL who have to old up their hands to "see which one makes an L" to tell their left from right.
This is very common, I think.

>IRyS
>mispronounces so much stuff in English you'd think she's ESL
>told the story about how she went to a doctor in Japan and he got annoyed because she's a JSL that got hung up by the medical terminology

>>103661246
Shoutout to that one time miko thought the lunar eclipse was the sun getting inbetween the moon and earth
Literally what the fuck

>>103661347
Jesus christ

>>103660201 (OP)
Vtubers are mostly dumb don't you know?

>>103661347
Miko is just pretending.

>>103661424
Maybe, maybe not
I still love her all the same

>>103661424
Yeah, pretending to enjoy my cock.

>>103661137
I know this is going to sound crazy and I'm coming off as an anti and a corporate drone, but I think this is more prevalent among indies. Of course there are lazy retarded whores in both spheres, but indies in particular like to farm backseating engagement or straight up ragebait.
Compare
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfx2tH_IHO4
with
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ludJtmg22kQ

>>103661259
The really weird part is that she didn't know north-south and east-west were opposites. I can understand getting east and west mixed up.

>>103660201 (OP)
my oshi is an English major

>>103661058
Truth

Time to whip out this classic:
https://www.youtube.com/live/m26LjTMlbwE?si=wVEe42GrsuWXdr7K&t=1001

>>103660201 (OP)
I can name only 1, maybe 2 english chuubas that actually can read, and only one that can actually read fast enough to the point where they close the chatbox so quickly that people think she's mashing, so she summarizes/repeats it after if she forgets other people aren't speedreaders

>>103661346
It's more common than you think among people who read more than they talk

>>103661058
Wemi isn't dumb, she's legitimately autistic.

>>103660948
It's not fine. Take pride in learning everything you can.

>>103661347
Jesus christ Miko
I thought education was good in Japan

>>103661824
Peko is definitely pretending. She used to joke about believing in flat earth.

>>103661976
No, no, she's got a point.

>>103661976
I mean I can chalk that up to a momentary brain fart. Otherwise yeah that is wildly stupid lmao

>>103661137
>It's been getting really had to watch people stream games lately
It's their job to be funneh, talk a lot and pay attention to their chat. They literally can't 100% focus on the game otherwise they'd be fucking silent and not reacting to your VERY important shitty comments in the chat

Plus it's girls, so they're a bit dumber
Cut them a slack, fag, they do their best to entertain you

>>103661259
>"see which one makes an L"
Holy shit, kids in English speaking countries can have THAT cheat?
Fuck and I should've learned it without any cues what the fuck

>>103660201 (OP)
Welcome to 2025 where most people under 25 can't ready any better than a middle schoolers did when they were born

>>103661553
Mikochi oji-san, stop it

>>103662385
Anon

>>103662385
>people under 25 can't ready any better
Not just ready, but writey as well it seems

>>103660201 (OP)
Its not just them, kids these days can't fuckin read. They must have removed that portion of English class where you need to read a passage from the book everyone is reading from schooling.

>>103662385
Holy ESL

>>103661259
Left-right confusion is something I'm surprised I don't see more often, actually. There's been studies that put it at around 10-15% of people, more common in women, and yet I feel like I almost never see vtubers mixing it up.
>>103661137
>It's been getting really had to watch people stream games lately.
This I think is something different entirely, it's a question of divided attention and I don't really blame them since there's a ton of things to watch while streaming. The thing that really gets me is more like OP said where there's just text on the screen in a non-rushed area and they are intentionally focusing on it and trying to read it for their audience and they struggle. Makes me realize the general literacy rate is not as high as I thought

>>103661137
This guy knows the game >>103662338
And it's not just vtubing, but streaming games as well, the main point is being entertaining and, as much as it's possible, interact with chat/tts.

You can't concentrate on the game and talk constantly at the same time. I tried to do it as an experiment several years ago, and 90% of time I was just silent. If chuuba did something like that, people would be bitching endlessly about how she ignores chat/tts and doesn't talk/isn't funny.

>>103660201 (OP)
>Implying that it's somehow different for the normie zoomers/late millenials.
People go "media literacy this, media literacy that", but people unironically lack basic literacy and have reading comprehension level of a brick.
And don't get me started on the whole "don't understand idioms, metaphors, allegories", I don't know, whether it's rampant autism, prevalence of SEAs or just general retardation, but people really can't use and notice any figure of speech.

PS: Imagine arguing/debating with such people. It's like explaining calculus to a downie.

>>103662451
Don't forget about speaky and listeningy

>>103661137
I know a lot of retarded dudes that ignore directions and then get confused too. While it does seem to happen more with girls, it isn't completely gender specific.

>>103660201 (OP)
If they're making the effort to read instead of disinterestedly skimming over it, I'm fine with it

>>103662249
She wasn't pretending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SsYzF2jOHQ

>>103662249
>spherecucks on /vt/

>>103660201 (OP)
Gigi doesn't have this problem

>>103661058
Retards are just a waste of space as far as i'm concerned.

>Runs into the first Goomba 5 times in a row
>"It's okay guys she can't concentrate on chat and the game at the same time!"

>>103660201 (OP)
>asks chat a question while playing a game
>everyone in chat gives her an answer
>looks at chat 30 seconds later after all the answers have flown past still confused about what to do

>>103662385
>Welcome to 2025 where most people under 25 can't ready any better than a middle schoolers did when they were born
wha

>>103663619
Type fast, read fast, rap fast, she is speed.

>>103660201 (OP)
why yes, how did you know?

>>103661976
She's right though. Apples are not plants. Apple trees are plants, but apples themselves are not.

>>103660201 (OP)
They are just looking if they have to censor it for the youtube gods.

>>103664796
By that logic, does that mean that clipped tree branches aren't plants either? This is an interesting take on the word

>>103663943
How is she so erotic?

>>103660201 (OP)
it's just kayfabe bro haha

>>103662208
>I thought education was good in Japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oL5qf3mwu8

>>103664886
>This is an interesting take on the word
It's not a "take" on the word at all, it's the definition. Why do you think it's called a "plant"?
That one was the cambridge dictionary definition, here's the oxford dictionary. Note how it even says "a tomato/potato plant" as opposed to simply "a tomato/potato".

>>103664886
Have you ever taken an english class?

>>103660201 (OP)
It's a universal problem
https://youtu.be/iJgchoS75rc?si=g_thxGjzZJC8_QUf

>>103664965
>>103665074
The definition I was brought up with was the latter, anything from the kingdom Plantae.
Is that just not a thing anymore?

>>103665171
That's actually a trick question, depending on how you measure the feathers(compact, loose, in air, in vacuum) they have different weights.

>>103665390
anon...

>>103665390
They are both a kg

>>103665390
so what? The steel is still heavier because it's solid metal

>>103665379
Does an apple belong to a kingdom? An apple tree, malus domestica for example is part of the plantae tree. But the fruit of the plant itself? Would this be an equivalent of calling a liver an animal?
Well, this is all very nitpicky, obviously, just a funny mental exercise.

>>103665851
True. It's fun to think about.

>>103665415
>>103665419
Which kg, weight or mass? The question says "which WEIGHS more", not which has more mass.
A kg of feathers actually does have more mass than 1kg because of the air as well, unless measured in a vacuum. Just like a balloon has more mass when filled even though it has the same weight.

Face it, it's a trick question in disguise designed to make the asker seem smart because of an ambiguity of language, much like all those math memes which are entirely about there being two possible interpretations of the question which makes people endlessly argue about the answer not understanding it's entire semantic in nature.

>>103665851
Well in this case an apple is a seed, which literally becomes a tree. So it's more like asking "is a fetus a human?" which people are famously split on.

>>103665390
You have one kg of compressed feathers and one kg of loose feathers
Calculate the weight of both at the altitude of 10 km from sea level

>>103663943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeDIZCc6Cyo

Apple is not a plant, it's a fruit

>>103665900
Wouldn't it be more like asking if uterus is a human? An apple cannot create an apple. It can create an apple tree, which in turn can create more apples. Just like a uterus can create a human, who in turn develops a uterus.

>>103665900
If a fetus is at the stage at which it can live outside of the womb it's a human

>>103665908
Are the feathers in a container? What's the temperature? What's the location? What time of year is it? What phase is the moon? What material is the scale made out of? What species of bird is the feather from?

what the fuck is going on in this thread

>>103665965
Well an apple tree can't create an apple either, it can only create a flower which ca create an apple.
This is a pointless exercise in semantics.

>>103665994
fans reflecting their oshis

>>103661346
IRyS isnt that bad but there is a serious discussion in Sweden about people being "nollspråkiga" which would be translated to "not fluent in a language", lots of immigrants and "refugees" are bad at their language and the swedish language so they do not understand medium to advanced language used in swedish or their so-called mother tongue

>>103666004
but when apple is created, it is still part of the tree
but it stops being part of the tree before being capable of creating a new one

>>103661856
please give me her name, i love lit shit

>>103665994
What's wrong? It's a good thread

>>103666091
Trees can't produce trees because their seeds stop being part of them before they can turn into trees.

>>103663236
A couple of days ago I saw a twitter thread where they said that Ironman had an allegory or whatevs for sexual assault (Tony allowing Piper to change the core from his chest is shown as an intimate moment where he trusts her and then later in the movie the fat ugly bastard that groomed Tony when he was a child has Tony immobilized and then removes the core by force) and people got fucking mad about it and calling her woke

>>103666186
grafting and cuttings exist

>>103666275
That's the new normal, Pippa got yelled at by her audience for hinting that "The Most Dangerous Game" had a progressive subtext. The movie where the antagonist is a Russian aristocrat that escaped the revolution, kills people for fun, and wants to return to tradition. Escapism and media literacy have become incompatible for most people, everyone is a baby now.

>>103660201 (OP)
>oshi playing a game
>starts talking
>slowly stops playing
>full on yapping
>completely stopped playing game

Anyone got the clips of Himawari thinking the sun and the moon are the same thing, and Furen thinking the moon physically shapeshifts on the different phases? I can't find them.

>>103662770
> Left-right confusion is something I'm surprised I don't see more often, actually. There's been studies that put it at around 10-15% of people,
This is simply not true. It's extremely rare.
I think I've met like one person in my whole life who had this. She was otherwise quite functional, just could not immediately answer what direction was left and what was right.
Sounds bewildering, but what can you do.

>>103663842
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJjd1KIC7k
This entire stream

>>103660201 (OP)
>he gets mad at his oshi
>he doesn't instruct and encourage her
Diagnosis: grim, NGMI. >>103661058 is right, it's a cute bit. It's not like *I* have trouble reading. It's fine.

>>103660201 (OP)
>Playing a shooter
>Runs out of ammo
>Ignores all the dead bodies, flashing ammo pickups, and different guns laying on the ground.
>Dies
>Complains about how hard the game is
>Doesn't understand how you were supposed to get past this area with 9 ammo.
Use your eyes woman.

>watch chuubas play Nightreign
>"haha that looks fun"
>watch them again after having played myself
>"why are you going there, you forgot to pick up the orb, you forgot your runes, you don't have the time for this why are you ignoring that you can't win with that, why would you pick that, why would you go all the way there, how did you miss that it was literally right in front of you"
I don't comment of course, but god damn, it can be painful when you actually know what works

>>103662338
who asked?

>>103661824
>I can understand getting east and west mixed up
Was the game in English? Because in Japanese higashi/minami (east/south) sound a lot closer than higashi/nishi(east/west)

>>103660201 (OP)
One thing I noticed from watching streamers is that white men are the least retarded.

>>103666087
Isn't this just a roundabout way of saying they're dumb?

>>103671556
Can't blame language for this one.

>>103661058
>>103664917
Which chuuba is this? I need to witness it for myself

My contribution to the vtubers lacking common sense collection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZBQN1DC9FU

>>103668987
I will often mix up left/right unless I make a special effort and I know a fair number of other people who do too. I don't know about whatever study but I wouldn't really say it's extremely rare either

>>103672156
Jesus

>oshi is a slut
>but she also has 140 IQ

>>103660201 (OP)
>Your oshi died multiple times to the Soldier of Godrick boss

>>103662385
>ready
Fucking palpable

>>103669493
Paradoxically IRyS is dumb but also a fast learner, her problem is that she forgets what she learns very quickly. When she plays a multi-part game, she'll be playing competently at the end of one stream and completely forget the controls by the beginning of the next one
Reminder that she was the MVP of the Mario tournament after her training arc

>>103661137
holy shit this, why can't any of these niggas READ

>>103663700
male retards*
At least female retards can still be cute. Some would say it makes them cuter

>>103661733
Counter point, Nerissa Ravencroft is in Hololive

>>103672200
Remy of Phase Connect

>>103668987
Half of gura's collabs are the other girl saying "your other right"

>>103665872
the division sign should be abolished

>>103670327
Women immediately lose 15 IQ as soon as they start playing an FPS game
This is why the few women who are good at them seem so retarded all the time, they got good by incorporating the debuff into their daily life

>>103676716
I kneel

>>103660201 (OP)
This is okay if your oshi is ESL btw

>>103670933
i noticed this too when any streamer played the diablo2 remaster for the first time

>>103662338
>>103663077
Noone is expecting them to be pros at the game, especially if it's their first time playing it, if we wanted competent players we'd watch male streamers. However, they should make the minimal effort to learn the basic controls through the tutorial when it pops up. Concentrating for like 20mins to learn the basics allows you to then use said basics to actually perform funny stuff in the game, instead of getting stonewalled for 10mins every second obstacle.

>>103669493
IRyS is cheating. She's too obvious of an example.

>>103661058
Would Nene get a higher or lower score than that?

>>103662451
giggled at this

>>103664942
Does she think we live on like archtrees like in Dark Souls? Wtf this has to be a bit. It's gotta be a Japanese idol thing. This is literally how a gnome would think

>>103660201 (OP)
Some holoJPs are borderline illiterate because they can only read very common kanji.
Haachama especially. There's an old stream where she's playing some idolmaster gacha game and had massive trouble reading the dialog.

>>103674235
Also her forgetting words or not quite getting the meaning right is a scientifically proven effect of being bilingual right from the start
When you learn two languages as a child they are BOTH your first language, which unfortunately means the wires often get crossed, you forget words, and have that on the tip of your tongue feeling more often than people who learn a second language later on
If you have two first languages your brain is running them both at the same time constantly

>>103665872
But mass is irrelevant. Heaviness refers to weight, not mass. It's not a trick question at all. The language is clear.

are u fucking with me

>>103686686
It's a trick question because kilograms formally measure mass, but colloquially measure weight, and you're not being told which definition to use

>>103665390
>depending on how you measure the feathers(compact, loose, in air, in vacuum)
Nope, you're retarded, in each case there would be a volume/mass/density of feathers such as that they would weigh 1 kg. The only trick is you overcomplicating it. We could also have 1 kg of atom-thin steel that acts like feathers and also traps air; we could add hypotheticals all day but that is beyond the scope of the question.

>>103687196
No one is asking how much the fucking air between the feathers weighs. The whole point is that if you have a kilogram of literally any two materials in the same general vicinity here on planet earth they will weigh the same. Retards cannot comprehend this idea. That's the joke.
There is no le reddit ackshually trick question to this.

>>103668220
It means the game is shit

>>103660201 (OP)
But aren't girls cutest when they are almost retarded?

>>103687196
But it's still the same value??????

>>103688350
If you're using it as a unit of weight, like a layman, a kilogram of anything weighs the same as a kilogram of anything else. If you're using it as a unit of mass, as it's intended to be used, you have to multiply it by gravitational force. This seemingly also always gives the same result of 9.8N, and in a complete vacuum, yes, a kilogram of anything will weigh 9.8N. However, you need to remember that air is a fluid, and as such has buoyancy. This is normally negligible, but a kilogram of feathers has such a low density that you could measure a noticeable weight difference compared to a kilogram of steel

>>103688644
Right but the weight difference is accounted for, i.e if there is a weight difference, then it's no longer a kilogram of feathers, therefore it falls outside of the scope of the question. The question involves a kilogram of feathers -- even if that kilogram of feathers is a temporary configuration, it is still a kilogram of feathers, for if it isn't, it would be something other than a kilogram of feathers. What the kilogram of feathers goes on to be is frankly not my business.

>>103688876
You're misreading my reply, I'll be more concrete
>A layman's kilogram is a unit of weight, therefore if you have two objects that weigh 1KG, they both weigh 1KG
>A scientific kilogram is a unit of mass, if you have two objects with a mass of 1KG, they can have different weights

>>103686517
Nene is actually pretty smart, heaps into science and entomology etc.

>>103665872
What do you mean which kg? Are there separate grams that measure mass instead of weight?

Otherwise you are correct, mass and weight are related but different measurements altogether. But the question is specifically about the weight.

Now, how I often hear the question asked is which is heavier 12kg of X or 12kg of Y. There actually multiple factors at play when determining how heavy something is, and both weight and mass are two different measurements of an objects heaviness.

It is a trick question in this sense because two different objects can measure the same weight but differ in how heavy they are.

>>103688934
Shit u right

>>103688876
I mean you’re playing at semantics now. Feathers are a real physical thing that is subject to physical laws, and a kilogram of feathers is a real physical thing that is subject to physical laws. To argue that those physical laws shouldn’t come into play when trying to solve the problem is almost a tacit confession that it’s a type of word game and nothing more.

It is a trick question in that case too.

>>103689036
The thing is there's a significant difference between mass and weight, but most people use them interchangeably since for common objects they're roughly equivalent.
1kg of feathers(mass) weighs significantly less than 1kg(weight/force) if you measure the mass in air since the mass of the air adds to the mass of the feathers.
For another clearer example, a filled balloon has the same weight as an empty balloon when measured in atmosphere, but even without air resistance it has significantly more inertia because of the mass of the air.

>>103660201 (OP)
yeah it do be like that

I will never forget Okayu's "Are turtles animals? I thought they are fish"

>>103662451
lol

>>103686592
>Does she think we live on like archtrees like in Dark Souls?
on giant beasts obviously

If you're paid for playing a game, bare minimum is that you k ow the basic controls and gameplay mechanics before entering a collab.
I've seen collabs where everyone knows how to play butnone dumb bitch, and she spends the first 2 hours whining that ahe doesn't know what she's doing and begging the others to explain the game to her. That's just unprofessional

>>103668920
Here’s the sun and moon thing, I didn’t know about Furen’s case though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKoZ29qyz8

>>103660201 (OP)
>Can't read a long line of text in game
Mine can barely read an eight word message in chat

>>103686592
No shit its a bit, dude. The kinds of ignorance you'd expect from Japs is usually historical shit like Azki not knowing about Japan's occupation of Indonesia, not whether entire landmasses are supported by giant, underground trees.