Thread 103723658

Is this a normal thing in the industry?

>>103723658 (OP)
Well well well

>>103723658 (OP)
It's not that expensive, absolute clown show.

>>103723658 (OP)
>Is this a normal thing in the industry?
Can you name other instances of something like this happening? No? Then it's not normal.

>>103723658 (OP)
I'm still baffled how Gunrun managed to have such a good reputation from his StarCraft 2 days until before VShojo imploded.

I will be the one to link the video for peoeple that care https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLI8_41GylQ

Isn't the point of declaring bankruptcy that you don't have money, how does that then cost money. Sure is deserved fior having their HQ in California.

>>103724013
All his previous business ventures succeeded using the classic silicon valley business model of "outspend your competition using endless investor money until you're the only one left then start abusing your monopoly".
This time he was up against Japanese autism and he underestimated Japanese autism.

>>103723658 (OP)
in the entertainment industry? More than you think... A lot more than you can imagine.

>>103724057
even worse
>SF

>ill-managed corpo goes belly up
>execs run abroad with the money
>employees are expected to pay up to get paid
That's normal in any industry.

>>103724189
I refuse to believe he really expected to beat out hololive, hell if Niji didnt shoot itself on the foot i doubt they would've beaten them either.

>>103725124
Anon. Veibae revealed he truly believed that poaching Kson and hiring Michael cat would kill Hololive and that all holos would jump ship soon.

>>103725124
If we believe that he tried to steer public sentiment against hololive by paying shills on social media he might have thought he could at least cancel them in the west. He was probably hoping for something big to happen that he could abuse, I bet he got an erection when the graduations finally happened and then it went back inside once he realized they had 0 impact.

>>103723658 (OP)
They wanted the communist corpo, they got the communist corpo.

A corp is required to declare insolvency like more than a half a year before it runs out of money. It costs a lot to do that, and its illegal not to do it before you actually run out then declare bankruptcy. That's probably what she's talking about.

what the fuck?

The filing fee for bankcrupcy is $338 in texas. Only slight differences in other states.

I'm sure the CEO gunrun, COO Daniel 'Apek' Sanders or Melody's boyfriend CTO Phillip 'MowtenDoo' Fortunat all have over $338 in their bank accounts.
All three of those motherfuckers are just kicking the can down the road because they know they WILL be held liable for all the shit that went down once they file for bankrupcy. They just delaying it with that bullshit.

I'm also sure they'll face the music sooner or later anyway once mouse's lawyers get them to court.

>>103725176
Imagine his face when he found out just how fucking psychotic miguel gato was

>>103725176
This was hard confirmed by nyanner's bf when he talked about gunrun's weird obsession with taking down hololive, when he poached kson and nazuna he was laughing like a maniac telling them how Hololive now is over, nyanner's bf literally went ''who the fuck is nazuna?''

The company should not be declaring bankruptcy so late. Any other company that stopped paying months ago and was scamming people left and right, would be under investigation long ago. Maybe she should have not glazed vshojo until it blew up and sued them instead

>>103725422
I like to imagine his face when all the EN's decided to graduate, Mumei, fauna, ame, gura. Bet your ass he thougth with a little more time he could get things running again and maybe took gura's attention considering nimi, senzawa and saba decided to follow gunrun on X. Had the bitches gives him more time he would've succeeded in his shit but he forgot you never mess with a woman's money.

You see..... Vshojo is still holding Iron Mouse's music hostage. So they're still making money off youtube whenever people listen to Iron Mouse's music. I'm sure it's not just Mouse's music either.

So right now they are just delaying bankruptcy as much as possible to milk as much as they can before they lose it all.

>>103725658
Is this possible if Vshojo already officially disbanded?

>>103725761
They still hold the rights and theyre still technically under contract as kson in the video confirms they havent terminated anyone.
Kson just doesnt give a shit since they cant touch her in Japan

She's really trying to milk this

>>103725658
They're delaying it because after the insolvency proceeding starts, a lot more people will start asking where the money went.

>>103725828
of course, see mouse went from 3k ccv to 7k ccv all because of the drama.

>>103723658 (OP)
I'm sure vtuber jesus can resurrect without that money. maybe she should stop traveling around to cons in the meantime though

>>103725176
Nazuna angel avatar similar to kanata...

Kson should did JAV with Ai Sayama

>>103725595
>Had the bitches gives him more time he would've succeeded in his shit but he forgot you never mess with a woman's money.
None of them ended up having a influence on hololive and Nimi already fell off.

>>103726560
I'd even accept gravure from her for now

>>103726534
i like how holofags can't comprehend a world in which more than one woman wants to be an angel

>>103723658 (OP)
Vshojo doesn't have any assets to liquidate to pay for the legal fees.

>>103724057
I don't know the ins and outs of bankrupt, much less corporate bankruptcy. But you probably at least need to pay a lawyer to handle it.
I'm assuming it's a llc and gunrun isn't going to foot the bill himself.

>>103723658 (OP)
VSHOJO TO THE MOON!

>>103723658 (OP)
The scam never ends.

>>103730024
>I'm assuming it's a llc and gunrun isn't going to foot the bill himself.
It's almost certainly a Delaware C-Corp.
Taking VC money with a different structure requires more effort for no benefit, so everyone starts as a Delaware C or converts before taking investment.

You are correct that no one can force Ignacio to "foot the bill" himself, but that doesn't mean it won't eventually happen. One path is that someone (such as a creditor) can sue the company in a manner that, skipping a bunch of details, effectively forces him to. Most people will know about the "the corporate veil" but when there is a finding of wrongdoing by the company, officers are legally exposed in a manner that some random employee isn't.

>>103730362
This basically. He's trying to grift the talents to pay his bills with the promise of paying them after. I admire his audacity.

Speaking of
>Melodys last stream more than a month ago
Where is she?

>>103724013
Well just looking at Vshojo by itself, he hyped himself up and made everyone worship and lie for him

>>103730779
supposedly taking a mental health break. she should have just pretended to get scammed like the mouse

Do you think Gunrun has moved to a non-extradition country yet?

>>103723658 (OP)
no cons!

>>103734527
she cant because she knows truth knowers would spam and claim bullshit because she was fucking the money man LMFAO

>>103724057
I cant watch her videos, i just end up rubbing it out to her rm.

>>103724057
I'm not listening to Kscam

>>103730101
fuckin embarrassing lol

>>103730779
It's very telling no other Vshojo ex talent ever replied or QRT'd her update post like a casual "oh baby i hope you are doing good! We will get through this hardship together" yada yada

>>103723658 (OP)
lmao

>>103723658 (OP)
CONS: NONE!

It’s very easy to be a shell company and kick the can down the road forever. Force your clients to sue you into bankruptcy and no show any and all attempts to negotiate

>>103725384
MowtenDoo isn't Melody's boyfriend...

>>103725513
Any clip of this?

>>103723658 (OP)
Mousey refers to this scam as ''Exiting the Ironlung''

>>103725124
I think he just wants to beat out the en branch specifically?

>>103741228
mel only spoke on her discord and has a stream schedule to this weekend dramafaggot larper.

>>103724057
>Isn't the point of declaring bankruptcy that you don't have money, how does that then cost money
The point of declaring bankruptcy is to legally get away with being a retard. That's why you pay, it's a "get away" fee. Of course, it's not always possible to declare bankruptcy, but you get my point.

>>103725253
I firmly believe that if the company's finance weren't so bad, he would have paid gura, fauna and doobs a massive sign up bonus just to have them in vshojo.
Of course, we now know that he didn't even have the money to send out the merch people paid for last year, let alone pay the streamers. But Gura especially could have easily gotten some XQC-tier sign up bonus if he could secure the funding for it.

>>103746274
It isn't "get away" but filing is a way of helping to separate the individual from the company. Usually most sane people would do it so creditors don't try to get their money back by going after their home or other assets.