Thread 103746703

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>>103746703 (OP)
Saba's honeymoon phase didn't last very long, did it?

>>103746703 (OP)
She would have still been a 5-view if she didn't downgrade her model.

Indie avengers win 3 days in a row! This is what natty wins look like without HolobotsEN.

>>103746751
Not really, her streams are just boring and her mindset is still very similar to her late Gura days in Hololive.

>>103746728
well no she's boring, only reason she had such high viewership before as gura is because 2 hours a month is just enough to not notice it.

>>103746728
She's a fun streamer but I checked out instantly over the pedo-baiting shit that was her debut. I hear she's backpedaled on it but meh, interest lost isn't easily regained.

Is she still streaming consistently or did the "couple of weeks" crowd get it right?

>>103746758
Late Gura still retained her charm. She was funny/ quick-witted by then.
I don't know what changed, but it feels like Saba feels constantly lost right now.

>>103746751
Agreed. I dropped Saba because she made adjustments to her model. The changes made me realize that she's always been a terrible streamer. Her streams are just completely unwatchable now.

>>103746772
its slowing down, couple weeks people forgot she did last like 2ish years before defaulting to the gura we know. it'll be a slow decline

At least for Nimi you can point at the lore drop debuff for her current views, but Saba's downfall is perhaps even more dramatic for someone who used to be the biggest vtuber in the world.

>>103746828
There's still a cull, retard. It happened around the same time last year, took like 2 or so weeks to go away. It's been 11 days since.

>>103746775
because she was at the phase where she was attempting to find out how to stream shitty Xbox and Nintendo games.
upgrading/rebuilding PC is her no.1 priority, but for now you are left with a bunch of testing streams

I still remember when she promised she'd stream retro games on their original hardware and upload her full teaser animation.

Has Gura ever gotten a sub-10k stream? Literally ever?

>>103746887
oh yeah, she talks about getting back to Elden Ring or Nightreign, but her PC graphics looked so ass and she crashed towards the end of the 2nd collab.

>>103746860
triple-quadruple culled Gura with extra Susan griefing and shadowban + negabots would have still gotten above 10k.

Pippa won

>>103746903
>retro games on their original hardware
That's retarded, she should just emulate them like a normal person.

>>103746703 (OP)
She can't surf on the hard work of other girls anymore

>>103746772
You were never a Gura fan if you weren't into the pedo baiting. She's acting the same as she always has. Not that I give a fuck, I'm a corpofag so I'm not much better...but at least I'm honest.

>>103746947
Point #2: She's been playing debuff shit like RE4 and now a 2nd playthrough of DMC3. As well as a bunch of random indieslop like Static Dread, Half Sword, and the 2 wizard games.

>>103746828
She showed her true colors by dropping Hololive just to go indie. It was never about being an idol, it was never about making fans happy. It was about the money and cutting out the middleman. That's what all of these recent indie redebuts tell us. At least Mumei left because she's literally dying. These other women just got greedy.

>>103746925
yes twice in 4 years
now she did it twice in 2 weeks

>>103746775
The rrat about Saba joining Mint's idol group with Doobs and Nimi in Vshojo were probably true. Now that Vshojo is gone she feels aimless with what to do.

>>103747047
It's always about the money, anon. For them it's a job. The problem is that she's making it way too obvious now, she's not even trying.

>>103747047
this desu, how dare they want to earn more money and pursue their own career

>>103747047
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>>103747106
explain how going indie yields more money than they did in hololive
you have got one chance holodrones

>>103746703 (OP)
weird, she has more likes than even the top jps. I think a lot of people have been saying ccv isn't displayed properly.

>>103747126
She doesn't have to cut part of her revenue with the agency. All or nearly all of what she earns is hers.

>>103746728
Not her fault she couldn’t predict that Nimi was going to pull such a retarded move like the LLD

>>103746828
Saba downfall started on the same day YouTube added age verification

those are still great numbers for indies, Nummer Negern has broke your brains

>>103747156
Why would Saba's fans stop watching Saba because of something Nimi said about Nimi?

>>103747156
>it's Nimi's fault
Rent free

I also believe she got shadowbanned, because even her clips uploaded by freebooters over the past few weeks do poorly.

>>103747001
>You were never a Gura fan if you weren't into the pedo baiting.
Who are you talking to, retard?

>>103747145
but she drops new merch like once every 6 month and you didn't even try to prove that "once every 6 month" beats Cover's greed

>>103746828
Show us your oshi's numbers

>>103747076
>ironmouse killing Vshojo from the inside so that she couldn't be dethroned by Saba
Holy rrat

imagine waking up every day and the only thing you think about is numbers
just become a robot at that point, you're LITERALLY no different from one

>>103746703 (OP)
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>>103747047
You make it too easy to identify your shitposting

>>103747323
all me

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>>103747126
>$360

>>103746703 (OP)
KEKKAPOOOOOO
nimikeks and sabasisters our response?
We were supposed to destroy hololive what went wrong?

>>103746703 (OP)
she shouldn't have nerfed her model and her intro

>>103747323
when you don't bother even checking timestamps

>>103747499
mods are slaves to /#/ not only do they get a free shitposting thread, theyre also allowed to make blatant troll threads like these all the time

>>103746703 (OP)
>ligger traitors struggling
Cheers my fellow holochads! Feels good to always win.

>>103747073
twas thrice in 2 weeks her re4 stream was also below 10k for most of it

>>103747187
>>103747195
There is the saying how you are who you surround yourself with. With how close Saba was to Nimi before the LLD, some fans (non ddoxfags) couldn’t help but wonder if Saba was similar to Nimi too
Saba and Dooby quickly tried to distance themselves from Nimi after the LLD but some damage was already done

>>103747865
Ah yes.
I too refuse to watch hololive because they associate with ERB and Bae.
Same with Phase and... half their fucking roster.

>>103746703 (OP)
This should be a reminder to all Holo girls that they're not actually talented or well liked, which is why they were all hardstuck 3views at best before they joined. They're all completely carried by the brand, and without the brand they're nothing. I don't think we'll be seeing anymore traitors in the future.

>>103747865
>Saba and Dooby quickly tried to distance themselves from Nimi after the LLD
This never happened, take your meds.

>>103747865
totally schizo

>>103747865
that explains Nerissa's low merch sales

>>103747954
holy fucking cope

>>103747865
This mental illness is from /#/. Delete the thread now.

>>103746703 (OP)
not going to watch grifters who abandoned hololive

>>103746703 (OP)
Mind you HoloEN is dead right now so what are all those people doing

>>103747187
I did preemptively thinking more lore drops would come or full support for Nimi, still think it’ll happen so staying away

>>103749739
AfO

>>103747229
Clips keeps showing up on my recommended despite clicking not interested so I don’t think that’s it

>>103749826
I mean the fans, they could be watching the Akatsuki in the mean time but are not

>>103747131
stop nooticing

>>103749853
We only watch holos

>>103749853
No dorito no watch

>>103749853
never liked neither gura nor fauna because of the egirl voice (and history) and the late 2010s ironic weeb character
nowadays i don't understand why people watch biboo
i'm glad holoen doesn't hire that type of people anymore, and i'm glad that anime (in the west) is becoming niche again

>>103750208
Agreed.

>>103747947
Each new Gen gets less and less of a following, just look how long it took Justice to reach 500k. Before long all of Holo's new gens will be sub 500K and the indie scene will outgrow hololive. Enjoy it while it lasts.

>>103750585
>Year 8 of "2 more weeks until hololive dies"

>>103746828
>for someone who used to be the biggest vtuber in the world.
for all of 6 months

>>103750585
If indie scene really outgrow Hololive, ENVtubing is doomed.

>>103746752
>They win if holoEN doesn't stream
The absolute state of indie avengertards

>>103746703 (OP)
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>>103750585
>he forgot about Advent and the boom they got
You guys have to understand there are many things involved in order to success. You may never know what will happen.

>>103750763
If that's the case then it just proves that most EN viewers were always temporary fomo tourists and would inevitably gravitate back to the most fleshstreamer like chuubas instead of watching real vtubers.
Those who want the genuine vtuber experience have to watch JP.

>>103750871
>fomo
fotm*

Holodrones thread. KYS!

>>103746728
Nimi went full retard and kamikaze'd both her and Saba's career

>>103746703 (OP)
>Gura indie already down to 4view
Oh no no no Saba bros, its so over

>tranny porn
KEK
This is the kind of person who wants to see Hololive burn and goes on about American freedom and shit shilling his indie whore

>>103746828
dont give a shit
you play dmc3 im watchin

>>103750585
Holofags don't want you to see how far HoloEN has fallen.

>>103750825
>we win if we're not streaming
Are all holofags equally as retarded?

>>103752803
Alright now let's compare noombers when they weren't being kneecapoed by youtube age verification
Oh no....Napcucks...

>>103752971
Botlive

>>103753308
Cope harder faggot.

>>103752971
Youtube Age Verification went into affect on the 11th

>>103750585
Trvke
>>103750763
>Holodrone
>ESL
Natürlich.

>>103753496
When I click on you in an RTS game, you shout
"NATURLICH."
"UNTERWEGS."
"WIRD GEMACHT!"

>>103746703 (OP)
Wow it's some site I've never seenssying some sort of shit in another language

>>103752971
Why is Raora the biggest of the four? I don’t watch Hololive, I’m just curious

>>103754339
Unironically her fanbase is insane but in a good way.

>>103754339
Sex

>>103754339
unironically it's because of sex model and japs watching

>>103754339
her voice is sex

>>103746728
No but she seems a lot happier.

>>103747615
Has she ever even addressed why she changed this?

>>103746703 (OP)
>holofags will lap up whatever slop is put on their plate but won't watch actual talent

>>103746703 (OP)
So both Nimi and Saba have to resort back to play the game they are most known for (DMC for Saba, Minecraft for Nimi) yet neither of them can get 10k even when no one else is streaming?
>HEY GUYS REMEMBER US WE WERE IN HOLOLIVE YOU KNOW!!
Holy fucking grim.

>>103758732
>So both Nimi and Saba have to resort back to play the game they are most known for
Funniest thing is they probably got a huge reality check on finding out people really don't care about the games they weren't allowed to stream during Hololive, because "muh corpo perms", and so they get back in those which were actually good.

>>103759979
She'd be doing karaokes if she cared about numbers you troglodyte, you fucks should really be contained in ur schizo den

>>103758732
>gura known for dmc
what do we call this disease

>>103760061
just a pebblekek who has to make the comparison

>>103759979
>games they weren't allowed to stream during Hololive,
If they actually had time to stream, look at all the idol and shill work all the EN girls need to do now. Concerts require dance lessons, since you don't want look dumb in front of your peers, participating in other people's 3d and birthday stuff, since you gotta be a team player. I'd have to assume recordings for cringe ass voice packs, sometimes in JP and they will keep telling you redo. And who fuck knows about meetings for business collabs that you are probably expected to at least read over the document, sit in a meeting with your manager and mangers from the other company only to just say ok at the ed of a2 hour meeting. Who has time to be streaming after all that shit? Only Biboo can pull that off

>>103760251
Dude it's not about "they cannot stream", but rather not having "perms" to stream.

>>103746703 (OP)
All. Indie. Avengers. Quitted. Because. They. Were. Lazy.

>>103760027
no, because she prefer gaming rather than singing.

>>103746860
>It happened around the same time last year, took like 2 or so weeks to go away.
The cull isn't going away this time and the lower numbers are neither a mistake or a temporary glitch. They want the real identity of the accounts on Youtube so those numbers aren't returning for viewers that remain anonymous. Soon enough there will be streamers and vtubers asking fans to verify their age.

>>103746975
>almost a 3 view now

>>103746703 (OP)
Lazy WHORES status:
>Losted
>BIGLY
Love to see it

>>103750763
Already did.

>>103760457
Boyfriends. Being lazy is second.

>>103761213
Nice try retard. Let's see how the numbers are actually evolving.
Except for a period between 2016-2017 where kizuna ai had most of the market share. Indies have always had the largest market share because there's literally thousands upon thousands of them.
Yet they're fucking LOSING market share to Hololive. Fucking let that sink in.

>>103761213
thing about that chart is hololive has 70 people (if its just counting the girls) or 92 if you include the guys currently, while indies amount to well over 100k vtubers if not reaching into the millions of them, so its not a shocker to see they take up the most even if you changed the stats from hours watched to literally anything else there is just too many indies