Thread 103790132

Nothing is worse then a fake otaku

"hehe i love BL and anime guis Naruto is so cool right"

>>103790132 (OP)
The classic prep talk

>>103790132 (OP)
>Dropped from getting 10K viewers in her lunch series to 2-3K nowadays after her drunk "collabing with male is fine since I will heal your horns later" speech
She has some rather weird ideas of growing

It's his own damn fault for staying with her after her first controversy.

>>103790132 (OP)
She outed herself as a fake bitch after her first unicorn incident where she got drunk on stream and was like
>"Eeeeeh~? I want my unicorns to come back thoooough! It's okay, if I just kiss up to them for a while and do a karaoke they'll forgive me and come back ne~"
It's one thing to be a male collaber, it's another to fully let the mask slip and admit you want to manipulate an audience you spurned into coming back just so you can use them as paypigs.

>>103790132 (OP)
>fake otaku
that is 98% of holos, anon

JP unicorns are some of the worst "people" in the world.

>>103790132 (OP)
>"hehe i love BL and anime guis Naruto is so cool right"
Shiori Novella

>>103790253
In the end of the day they're all still paypigs though, knowingly or not doesn't change a thing.

>>103790132 (OP)
She's right but unicorns are too dumb to understand

>>103790317
Most girls at least have the tact to not outright say they view their fans as paypigs, though. Even ERB has to decency to just outright say she isn't unicorn friendly and that if you don't like it go watch someone else, Ririka is a two faced manipulative cunt.

>>103790302
Why?

>>103790132 (OP)
Ririka's quote is incomplete; it lacks the last and most based part.

>>103790369
Shiori is too, and a coward

>>103790253
>It's one thing to be a male collaber, it's another to fully let the mask slip and admit you want to manipulate an audience you spurned into coming back just so you can use them as paypigs.
wdym? For unicorns, those two are the same thing; you don't need to admit it, if you homocollab then you are a manipulative whore. Right unikek bros?

>>103790369
They're all dumb bitches
Cut from the same cloth

>>103790253
I remember
thats when I unsubbed
Now shes the runt of her Gen

>i guess its not like i judge people based on whether theyre a man or woman
the tabula rasa is made by the wiping the slate clean not created from nothingness her logic is circular

>>103790632
>Now shes the runt of her Gen
>Now

Makes me wonder what would've happened if they didn't have an anticorn for a manager, though knowing what she did it's probably for the better

>>103790253
>>103790369
>its okay to squeeze lonely men for money, so longs as we don't find out about it
Gen Z is fucked.

>>103790632
>>103790846
She's a pushy numberfag. She'll never rise from the runt status.

>>103790132 (OP)
I feel like I'm going insane surrounded by so much dissent but what she's saying here sounds completely reasonable to me.

>>103790369
>Ririka is a two faced manipulative cunt.
She's a vtuber, they're all like this
>No! My oshi really is an anime catgirl from mars and she loves me!

>>103790132 (OP)
Can't wait for Yagoo to terminate that fake bitch lmao. She'll be like Mel where absolutely nobody will miss her.

C u c k e d

>>103790253
It's crazy that the part you find issue with isn't the act itself but rather finding out about it. Get some help.

>>103791157
NTA but you completely missed his point. You're either being disingenuous or youre just retarded

>>103791213
Probably both.

>>103790132 (OP)
If you didnt leave after the first time she made fun of you, you have it coming

>>103790632
Ao still exists

>>103791213
Enlighten me. What was his point?

>>103791213
He was salty that Ririka let the mask slip and expose that she's only in it for the grift. He then goes on to state that he's glad most girls have the tact not to mention this, so he knows on a fundamental level that this is a common attitude. However his problem wasn't that Ririka grifted her audience, but that she didn't have the tact to be subtle about it.

>>103791339
You should have learned reading comprehension in school. I'm sure you can apply a skill they teach 10 year olds anon.

>>103790132 (OP)
So when does she make another stream and apologizes again? Why can't she decide which lane she on
>Fuck the gachikoi
>NO NO NO PLEASE COME BACK
>Actually fuck them, I can collab with whoever I want

>>103790132 (OP)
I didn't know you had to join Street Fighter tournaments with males to grow as an artist

Management really pussywhipped her into submission huh

>>103790132 (OP)
BASED, I love this gyaru
why do idiots also keep sending large akasupas with these kind of messages? lol
>I'm gonna punish you by talking like an incel and giving you the largest amount of my allowance for the week instead of doing it for free in the comments section or chat

lol these fools honestly expect their "MONEY DO AS I SAY BITCH !" technique works, if you're gonna get mad and throw large money each time still there's no incentive to stop her ways, she's right anyway but these passive aggressive idiots never learn.

>>103791669
No you idiot, it's to prove that they're an actual supporter.
If you just say that in chat not only is it a big wall but no one will read it and she'd skip right past it.

>>103791669
Hey, she the one who started crying and begging for people to come back while stopping the male collabs for some time. Guess something happened and she just doesn't care anymore.

>>103791669
These types of fans honestly believe their donations are transactional instead of tips of appreciation. I'm sure most of these girls don't care too much for SCs since most of their revenue comes from merch and adsense anyway.

>>103791864
Adsense is next to nothing for their income, it's the smallest part by far

>>103791669
Fun fact: OP omitted some parts and she actually said she still wanted him to support her and she would be sad if he stops (but since she is an unicorn herself she'd understand that)
https://youtu.be/02zZX-F8vTA?si=57xeaHnbRV_7vpNg

>>103791739
>it's to prove that they're an actual supporter.
No actual supporter acts that way
>>103791747
>she the one who started crying and begging for people to come back
Don't recall her doing any of that, do recall her saying it'd be easy to get pathetic losers back easily by acting exclusive to them.

>>103792021
Source on this?

>>103792021
>>103791864
I don't even know why some people think adsense / ad revenue is important. Most big streamers have said that it's their least important source of income (with the biggest being merch). Even more so when Holo / VTubers in general aren't doing the kind of contents with high paying ads (like laws or financial videos)

>>103790132 (OP)
>Grow as an artist
>It's a SF6 tournament
???

>>103792040
Kiara talked about the income. SC is the biggest part, though the best cut is their own personal merch (think birthday or anniversary, group merch is bad)

>>103790632
>the runt of her Gen
That's Ao.

>>103790132 (OP)
gave up on her after the GTA RP shit

Why is regloss management so fucking retarded?

>>103792124
Is that the woman who reads racemixed erotica?

>>103792038
I recall she did want those "pathetic losers" back.

>>103792124
Well her male collabing ass is graduating soon as she barely streams anymore, so Ririka going to be the next runt who I wouldn't be surprised ends up like her.

I watched the clip and gave it a dislike (obviously it's made in bad faith to cater to the yes-men from reddit), but what she said wasn't so bad. She's also addressing it and acknowledging how some fans feel, which is much better than changing the course and flat out ignoring your fans (Aki, Mel). That being said, seems like she's roped in hard by her managers.

>>103792114
>SC is the biggest part
After the cuts of YT, Cover, and taxes I find that very hard to believe.

There was never any hope for dev_is just because management doesn't want them to have gachikoi fans at all. She even said as much before. She literally said if mgmt feels like people become too gachikoi for a devis girl they might feel the need to make her collab with some guys just to shoo them away.

The direction for this branch is quite a bit different.

>>103792187
No that's the other whats-her-face

>>103792220
Tell Kiara she's wrong then, I'm sure she has no idea what the biggest part of her income is.
Despite only getting 35% of SC money, yes, it still wins overall.

>>103790188
She's literally most famous for shitting on unicorns and chasing them away when she first debuted, she only later pulled them back by telling them to just forgive her. These so-called unicorns that only hang around girls like this should all be burned alive.

>>103791669
I cant wait for Yagoo to fire your whore. She brings nothing to Hololive and her streams are boring af. I've seen lukemia wards more amusing than this bitch. I'll save her cucked fanbase the effort of giving me a (you) and predict they're all just gonna say something like unikek melty.

>>103792167
they still want the normie audience

>>103792114
Do you have any timestamp or clip for reference? Otherwise I'm inclined to believe that you misunderstood what she said since many other girls have said that merch is their biggest part of income.
Even if we are talking about cut rates instead of what they get in total, personalized merch and VPs will still wins over SC

>>103792220
you get what? 20 cents on a dollar from SCs?

>>103792276
Way to misrepresent her "do you guys really mind if I join VCR GTA and guys are there too? I'll repair your broken horn with bandaids and ASMR afterwards~" thing.

>>103792310
>Even if we are talking about cut rates instead of what they get in total
We aren't though.
35% of x can still be more than 50% of y.

Their personal merch has the best cut, but SCs is what she makes the most money from quantity wise.

>>103792036
>she is an unicorn herself
Oddly enough it's "a" unicorn, maybe because it starts with a "y" sound? English is weird.

>>103792316
For Holo, it's 35% by default (50-50 with Cover after YT takes their 30% cut), but it's negotiable (some, i.e: Lamy, managed to negotiate for a 60-40 cut for example).
Don't think they can negotiate for a significantly better cut, though

>>103792243
The thing is, people used her saying that as proof she had been reformed and turned against management but this proves the exact opposite was true. But yes, only retards ever supported Dev_is because it was never even remotely secret what they were meant to normalize. All this cope about "they're just like Hololive, why the different name" was fucking retarded from before their debut streams.

>>103792187
You have no idea who or what you're talking about stay out of the convo adults are talking, shoo shoo back to the catalog.

aka-san should take a look at the birthrates and then implement a change in his life

>>103791157
I dont even dislike the grift itself, its more the careless mercenary behavior insisting that it will work in the future.
Its one thing to make up for a mistake with flowers and dinner, its another thing to make the dinner reservations while planning the 'mistake'.

>>103790132 (OP)
>I'm starting to wonder if maybe it's time for me to move on...
Why is Hololive so full of cunts?
Act like a man and just leave. Acting like cunt; No one gives a fuck about you.

>>103792370
and after taxes that 35% lands in the ballpark of 20 cents on a dollar

>>103792114
How old is that clip? Because I'm pretty sure that merch and sponsors are king. I can't believe that SC is where they rake the largest profit especially since many talents deign to just turn their SCs off most streams.

>>103792275
Kiara doesn't get much money compared to popular members, SC's are her main thing she has always emphasized. It's honestly unbelievable you are so retarded that you think what one member gets most of their money from is what every other member gets most of their money from. Many members turn off superchats or actively refuse to encourage them. Are they living in poverty?

>>103792243
>design a character who is essentially marin
>also she's a turbo-unicorn
>but for a gen where you want no gachikois
Damn devis management really is retarded

>>103792450
Why is it so weird to you that one member talking about their own finances would be wrong? The idiot you're responding to is the one extrapolating that one member's finances are the same as every member but even in his "quote" >>103792350, that's not what it says.

>>103790132 (OP)
Those SF6 collabs don't even help Regloss grow

Is this the retard thread? I'm only seeing retarded posts

>>103790132 (OP)
>op seething has nothing to do with picrel
I don't particularly believe this is an earnest thread or that the screens reflect reality

>>103792036
>>103792213
Once again, the actual truth gets ignored.
These dumb *insert only (some) TL to the OP and leave out the rest* posts need to fuck off (they won't). If the TL doesn't include a source always assume it's a shitstirrer and the oncoming replies will be too.

>>103792359
It's not weird if you speak it. You wouldn't say a heir or a homage. But u is a vowel, so no idea why you think it would be otherwise.

Merch is the main source of income for the girls and the company. It used to be SCs and memberships but that was years ago.

>>103790132 (OP)
DEV_IS was created to be a trojan horse
We need a real HoloJP gen and fast

>>103792450
Sponsors are a bunch of money but they don't grow on trees or else Grifter Murin would make constant back-to-back sponsorship streams until she has to be hospitalized from insomnia and malnutrition

>>103792611
Lmao keep defending your pathetic ewhore cuck. You deserve to be scammed.

>>103792525
>I know better than the girl

>>103792350
Again, do you have a timestamp or clip for us to take a look at, because
>but SCs is what she makes the most money from quantity wise.
is not what other girls said.
I meant, we can easily see how it couldn't be the case with some math, too: Kiara made $173,260 from SC in 2024 - that would earn her around ~$60,641 after YT and Cover took their cut. On *average* (and this average was dragged down by low earners like HoloStars and HoloID), Cover pays their talents ~$450K a year. No way SC (60K a year) could be where Kiara made the most money unless she somehow earned far below HoloPro average for some reasons.
Not Kiara, but IRyS's 2024 birthday limited merch sets alone (not counting non-limited) sold for $270K - even assume a modest 30%-40% cut from revenue (after Cover's cut and all expenses / cut to merch providers) it'd have been $81K+ to $108K+ - way above what she earned from SC. She got at least two personalized merch waves (birthday and anniversary), plus a bunch of standardized merch (with notably lower cuts, admittedly) - no way she'd have earned less money from merch than SC

>>103792656
What are you talking about, you're the retard claiming she's the personal accountant of all Holomems.

>>103792658
People are allowed to make fun of her low effort sponsor slop. I swear we haven't had a good Holo since 2021. Every debut since has been boring and belong in low wage burger flipping jobs.

>>103792619
Please do say it out loud:
They don't have an heir (silent h)
They don't have a horse in the game (non-silent h)
They don't have an uncle in kentucky (u sound at beginning)
They don't have a unicorn (y sound at beginning)
They don't have a yellow car (y sound at beginning)

>>103792768
>he actually watches gigi

>>103792629
It is clear the brains have vacated the heads of most people here because they think Hololive is a hippie commune where all individuals pool their money. Sponsors are a lot of money but not everyone gets them and some of them get pretty low-quality ones while others get huge collabs.

>>103792737
I can excuse her sponsorslop since most of her earnings seem to flow back into la creatividad projects like her 3D debut.

Ririka is much closer to Kiara in terms of the kind of holo she is (lots of zatsus, SC readings) than she is a Marine or a Suisei or something

>>103792837
You wouldn't know what creativity is even if it wacked you in the face with its cock.

>>103792902
Link me what you consider to be a creative stream.

>>103792923
Nothing you'll get from a vtuber anyway. Especially not in 2025.

>>103790132 (OP)
>"hehe i love BL and NTR and anime guis Naruto is so cool right"
Shiori?

>>103792952
Link me one nontheless. My only stipulation being that it better not be a Jerma stream.

>>103790214
VSPO does the same thing. For some as long as they get a bit of healing time with them they are fine with it.

>>103793027
You're not going to find anything creative from any ewhore. If you wanna see creativity go play a video game. And not just watching some ewhore with a cartoon avatar play whatever slops popular.

>>103793108
There's no point in engaging in this conversation if you're going to have absurdly high standards while also being evasive about what those standards specifically are.

>>103793108
are you lost, how did you end up on /vt/ by mistake

>>103793182
Looks like he added the "t" by mistake.

>>103790253
god women are so stupid it's unbelievable. I'm pretty sure those words are her own but not corporate answer right?

News at 11: Top story the primary motivating factor for having a job is making money. Later in the hour a story about how if you give money to a whore with no expectation of receiving sex you are a retard and should be euthanized.

>>103790369
>Most girls at least have the tact to not outright say they view their fans as paypigs, though. Even ERB has to decency to just outright say she isn't unicorn friendly and that if you don't like it go watch someone else
Honesty is better for everyone though unicorns on this board still call them sexist insults even if they were honest from day one. Ririka is attempting to keep her unicorns when she is either blaming management or saying that it's needed to grow the Hololive brand. Still her response is moderate considering a unicorn made the absurd request to stop interacting with men and even Japanese idols would usually give a harsher response.

>>103792620
>Merch is the main source of income for the girls and the company.
The generic merch split goes almost entirely to Cover and talents earn little from generic merch. That is why they really hype up their birthday and anniversary merch. That is the only merch they seem honestly excited to shill while the generic merch shilling feels mandatory.

Going over the clip, it seems like it's once again management in their ears going "You'll never grow unless you do esports shit with guys" just like they've done before with other talents

>>103790132 (OP)
is this actually recent? i hate shit without a date.

>>103791157
check this out, I don't even care about finding out myself, I care about others finding out because that will make ME look like a cuck

>>103793492
12 days ago.

>>103790132 (OP)
Women should not be allowed to speak freely. They should write all of their talking points on a card and have managers oversee them to check for bullshit. They should also be on a 10 second delay so that male managers can cut off their stream when they say something stupid.

>>103790132 (OP)
>trusting a literal gyaru character from the normie-oriented shitters branch
>>103792036
>"Nooo, please support me out of pity despite deliberating doing things you don't like"

>>103793603
This is literally what she's doing. This is management talking points. She got slapped by them before for being too vocal about it.

>>103793667
Then I should be managing what they say

>>103791739
>it's to prove that they're an actual supporter.
Doesn't quite work that way given that charge backs exist. Besides, if her 100 bucks is the only way for her to hear you out then she is not worth of anyone's time.

SHE SHOULD GRADUATE

>>103791864
How do we sabotage merch then? I highly doubt I'd ever actually be angry enough to do it to someone but I wanna know how to do as much damage as I can in case I ever need a fuck you

>>103790214
>you're a tiny minority Unicorn!
>loses 70% of her CCV

>>103793457
Not when some talents say that they earn good money from stuff like the generic voice packs. The only thing I can say they earn less is from HoloTCG.

>>103794300
Short of tracking down a pallet of their goods and blowing it up your only recourse is to vote with you wallet and not purchase their merch.

>>103793603
Based management anon. Many careers would have been saved it some of these ho's didn't run their mouths when they shouldn't have.

>>103793603
The GTA male collab was an offer from Managment.

>if we want to become more famous we will need to interact with males
Why vtubers keep falling for this shit?these collabs are way more beneficial to the males than the females

>>103790302
Japanese niggas in general are pathetic. The gen z generation of Japan is so pathetic no wonder old people have lost all hope.

>>103790132 (OP)
This is exactly why Nimi's lore drop was so important. It made many other vtubing girls comfortable with the idea of talking about male interactions and relationships. On twitch it hasn't been a problem for a long time, but Youtube vtubing is still stuck with the taboos imposed upon it by 2020 Hololive and Japanese idol culture as a whole. Even without Nimi those retarded rules would have gone away eventually, but she definitely accelerated the progress significantly.

>>103795303
Blame management for not understanding the dynamics of streaming audiences. Cover does a lot of dumb shit, because they believe their girls are somehow different from other female streamers.

total unicorn death

>>103790132 (OP)
didn't she say management forced her to collab with men the last time? but now it's because she wants to?
never trust women anons

>>103791739
>actual supporters sit in the cuck chair and lick the cum afterwards

>you couldn't possibly watch a vtuber without wanting to be her girlfriend
not everyone is you

REMINDER
These are women.
>>103790253
>>103790559
>>103790317
>>103790632
>>103790944

Homostar sisters absolutely loathe Ririka for some reason.
Even been nothing but a great friend to lots of senpai and the actual literal unicorn.
All the hatred you see is from spiteful English speaking women.

>>103791864
>donations are transactional instead of tips of appreciation
because they are, vtubers are providing a service not begging for money on the street

>>103796840
>providing a service
for which you don't need to pay

>>103793603
I like when they out themselves so I don't even have to waste time in them.

>>103790132 (OP)
>collabs with men
>"ill do asmr and theyll forgive me"
>does asmr with noel
>"management made me do male collabs"
>does a male collab
Really fucking tragic she's like this. She's the only holo that' actually open about being into bondage so she should be perfect for me, but alas, she is a whore.

>>103797770
>open about being into bondage
>she is a whore
It was impossible to see this one coming.

>>103793603
>Women should not be allowed to speak freely. They should write all of their talking points on a card and have managers oversee them to check for bullshit.
That is most likely a joke but a lot of Hololive unicorns really do believe that. The entire reason they side with Cover is they consider them a force that maintains the idol illusion. Unicorns don't care what the talents want they only want them to be idol waifus.

>>103794300
Have you tried not being a vindictive pussy?

>>103796688
So what you're saying is women are actually based?

>watching hololive in 2025
Come home white man

regloss was a mistake, we all know this. the blue token woke holo is gonna be the first to graduate, but ririka is a close second. Female manager came up with the regloss bs concept in the first place, female manager did the recruiting. look upon their works and despair. This ain't the golden age of vtubing or hell even the golden age of hololive no more....it's a dog eat dog world now and there's blood in the holo waters kekw

>>103790132 (OP)
As a reminder Ririka herself told us Cover is now anti- unicorn
https://files.catbox.moe/8s2hg2.mp4

>>103808660
Literally the exact same thing Kanata's old manager would pull. They might even be the same one.
There's some good managers and some really shitty ones.

>>103790302
Even japanese normies act really cucked so i can't even imagine unicorns

guys just ruin the entire vibe it's that simple. I wouldn't not watch someone because they've streamed w/ a guy but I won't watch a stream w/ a guy or clips w/ em. It just becomes a different thing and that thing is better covered w/ tv shows or movies.

>>103790132 (OP)
Ririka the
>Well sorry incels I dont care I will collab with men anyways
A bit later
>Actually, the management forced me to do it, I was kinda against it
Now
>Well, you know, we gotta do whatever we gotta do to grow

>>103809616
this music focused group gyaru just can't grow wthout doing a street fighter man collab. like u can't believe shit this chick says simple as.

Her (and cover's) fatal mistake was thinking she could appeal to people beyond lonely virgins and lost men. Just sing "Our Bright Parade" and act cute for money, whore. Terminate regloss and there might be hope left, cover.

i'm sort of OK with her continuing to tank her numbers.

Isn't the target audience for regloss, women?

>>103798339
>talent freedom
Remind me what happened to the company that said this?