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Anonymous No.103811168 >>103811201 >>103811210 >>103811358 >>103812098 >>103814536 >>103814791 >>103815407 >>103815499 >>103817782 >>103817851 >>103817863 >>103818265 >>103820204 >>103820647 >>103820971 >>103821780 >>103821804 >>103821881 >>103822462 >>103822496 >>103822549 >>103822927 >>103823173 >>103823185 >>103823254 >>103824059 >>103824427 >>103824619 >>103825390 >>103825405 >>103828316 >>103829896 >>103832913 >>103834661 >>103846994
ERB showed Suisei who the real diva was tonight. For me this is now the definitive rendition of Stellar Stellar. The crowd was going fucking crazy.
https://litter.catbox.moe/zglz4xxucbtd2pvb.mp4
Anonymous No.103811201 >>103823807
>>103811168 (OP)
Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 it 8 out of 8
Anonymous No.103811210 >>103811297 >>103814646 >>103815558 >>103816940
>>103811168 (OP)
>loud=good
your brain on homocopium
Anonymous No.103811297 >>103811400 >>103815558
>>103811210
Suisei is a homocollaber, your post makes no sense
Anonymous No.103811358
>>103811168 (OP)
Anonymous No.103811400 >>103812016 >>103820725
>>103811297
Suisei gets a pass because she went through the idol journey and has superb singing skills.
Can't say the same with ERB
Anonymous No.103811568 >>103812201 >>103814037
>loud = talented
>loud = good
>loud = funny
No class. No range. No elegance.
Anonymous No.103811729 >>103812137 >>103817754
I was pissed when she decided to make the full HoloEN song all about her with her belting ad-lib bullshit
I hate this bitch so fucking much
Anonymous No.103811953
least schizo unicorn thread
Anonymous No.103812016
>>103811400
>Homocollaber
:|
>Homocollaber, japan
:O
Anonymous No.103812098
>>103811168 (OP)
Even knowing this is bait, I admit it got the tiniest rise out of me. Good job.
Anonymous No.103812123
(You)
Anonymous No.103812137
>>103811729
just a shame your oshi has zero talent, anon, otherwise cover might have considered her instead. No power though, shame
Anonymous No.103812201
>>103811568
welcome to modern HoloEN and Western Vtubing in general, enjoy your stay
Anonymous No.103812651 >>103822409 >>103837639
I mean Susie singing is mid to begin with. Idk how shes even that popular. Countless girls from hololive have better voices.

Guess the lil "self made idol" does give her a big buff
Anonymous No.103813038 >>103813218 >>103814646 >>103817653
Something something about how ERB sings loudly with confidence therefore she's bad because I am a retard with no concept of singing
Anonymous No.103813218 >>103813443
>>103813038
and you're a retard with no concept of hearing. she likes dragging out notes for far too every time she sings like one of those annoying singers when they sing the national anthem she only sounds decent if youre deaf in one ear and retarded
Anonymous No.103813443
>>103813218
you don't know ball anon, stop pretending and stick to your highschool level talents
Anonymous No.103814037 >>103814481 >>103814646 >>103821204 >>103821224 >>103828403 >>103828630
>>103811568
This honestly. I watched her at debut and hated her singing. It's so ugly sounding, despite being technically skilled. Such a gross timbre. Her personality of being a bitch libtard really shows through in her choice of how she sings.
Anonymous No.103814433
She's fantastic. The belting and shrieking she sometimes does isn't my thing but she's definitely a stronger singer than Suisei
Anonymous No.103814481
>>103814037
Show me a talented artist who isn't a bitch libtard in 2025...
Anonymous No.103814536
>>103811168 (OP)
>https://litter.catbox.moe/zglz4xxucbtd2pvb.mp4
Oh that is awful
Anonymous No.103814646 >>103814715 >>103814735 >>103814744 >>103814762 >>103814876 >>103817635 >>103817942 >>103819167 >>103820767 >>103820791 >>103821242 >>103821292 >>103822717 >>103823704 >>103828065 >>103837808
>>103811210
>>103813038
>>103814037
Being able to sing(and belt) within your supported register while projecting a powerful resonance at the mid-high notes without losing tonal quality making use of a damn near flawless melisma free of strain is extremely impressive

If you subjectively prefer the way someone else's singing voice sounds that's fine(some people prefer Post Malone vocals over Adele vocals), but in terms of pure skill and technique she is the objectively the best in hololive
Anonymous No.103814715 >>103821790
>>103814646
yeah but I prefer softer voices, so she's shit
Anonymous No.103814735
>>103814646
anon pls we have to contrarian circlejerk here in /vt don't give me such measured and correct takes
Anonymous No.103814744 >>103821790
>>103814646
She may be technically impressive, but I just cannot stand her voice whatsoever
Anonymous No.103814762 >>103814909
>>103814646
A generation has been convinced the delicate bedroom pop ukulele girl voice is best. Gura was a good example of that and I like her voice. They see technical prowess and sounding like you're trying as theatre kid shit
Anonymous No.103814791 >>103814863
>>103811168 (OP)
>Screamed like a bull instead of controlling high notes expertly
OP is fucking deaf
Anonymous No.103814863
>>103814791
She's nailing the "high notes" and the song isn't even high in her register.
Anonymous No.103814876 >>103814976 >>103815019 >>103821790
>>103814646
Her voice sounds more fitting for normalfag music or something. It's pointless in this context. It's nice and all but does not fit the context she's in [just like everything else she does baka]. As a weeb, lots of songs I've enjoyed have kawaii uguu voices, and she's basically on the complete polar opposite end of the spectrum of that.

If I wanted to be impressed by the toppest of singing I'd listen to other established professionals. I enjoy a wide breadth of music, with some artists obviously better than her, lifelong decades professionals so it's natural, not calling her shit or going "my dad can beat up your dad over it." I really just hate how she sounds it's grating.
Anonymous No.103814909 >>103814943
>>103814762
It was always funny hearing chumbuds for years trying to claim Gura was the best singer in Hololive without a shred of irony.
Anonymous No.103814943
>>103814909
every time I hear her sing I imagine her as a bald make-a-wish kid
Anonymous No.103814976
>>103814876
She's not cutesy but it's not like there aren't artists like Ado in Japanese music doing similar
Anonymous No.103815019
>>103814876
Saying it's not to your taste is one thing, but then throwing in that "it's grating" is what makes your sentiment disagreeable.
Anonymous No.103815407
>>103811168 (OP)
ERB is a good singer, but I'd rather listen to many others before I listen to her. I feel nothing when she sings this song compared to suisei.
Anonymous No.103815499 >>103820715
>>103811168 (OP)
She sings every song the same way... You listen one erb song and you've heard them all.
Anonymous No.103815558
>>103811210
>>103811297
You're both cancer. Please end yourselves.
Anonymous No.103816940 >>103817004 >>103831257
>>103811210
Ironically that's how Suisei sings, both of them kinda have the same style as in going for "powerful" image with lots of belting
Anonymous No.103817004 >>103817252 >>103817597
>>103816940
suisei has a cute clear singing voice doughbeit
Anonymous No.103817252
>>103817004
You must have weird criteria of a clear voice, her voice is raspy
Anonymous No.103817597 >>103818130
>>103817004
what, the huskiest voice of JP btw
Anonymous No.103817635
>>103814646
Finally some logical take
Anonymous No.103817653
>>103813038
That part
Anonymous No.103817754
>>103811729
She takes center btw, keeps seething
Anonymous No.103817782
>>103811168 (OP)
They waited a fucking year to do this? Actual retardation by staff from not rolling this out day 1.
Anonymous No.103817851
>>103811168 (OP)
IRyS clears both
Anonymous No.103817863
>>103811168 (OP)
A quarter of the size of a JP concert HoloEN fags are insufferable
Anonymous No.103817942 >>103818049
>>103814646
We desperately need more people with training like her in holo, or to train the holos to raise to her level and not kill their throats.
Anonymous No.103818005
A pity that ERB is annoying half the time she has to do something like a game but is fun when distracted
Anonymous No.103818049 >>103818099 >>103818145 >>103821675
>>103817942
>We desperately need more people with training like her in holo
This shit takes a lifetime of training, it's not something you casually do while trying to stream and do a bunch of other shit
If you're not at that level already it's too late.
Anonymous No.103818099
>>103818049
You cant help someone who is tone deaf, but you can train someone who can already carry a tune
Anonymous No.103818130 >>103819040
>>103817597
Tower.....
Anonymous No.103818145 >>103821391
>>103818049
Well that's depressing.
There's gotta be ways to at least train what they can, right? I guess that's what they've been trying.
Unfortunately most of them are hags, though, so idk.
Anonymous No.103818265
>>103811168 (OP)
>"ppl" in this thread pretending to know anything about singing
lmao
Anonymous No.103819040 >>103820390
>>103818130
I said JP
Anonymous No.103819167
>>103814646
Reasons why Mori and Nerissa glaze her so much. From a singers standpoint, she's literally at the peak.
Anonymous No.103819188 >>103820214
maybe she could sing if she didnt keep putting dumb flourishes in her singing
this ain't the pub mate tone it down
Anonymous No.103820204
>>103811168 (OP)
singing skill comparisons are stupid
Anonymous No.103820214 >>103820768
>>103819188
Or she can sing and you don't want to admit it.
Anonymous No.103820390
>>103819040
Trvke
Anonymous No.103820517 >>103820670
that was nowhere not even her best performance of the night, not even close
Alice&U was incredible

https://litter.catbox.moe/e1xa5jijim4ddxmg.mp4
Anonymous No.103820647
>>103811168 (OP)
she is obviously very skilled but she doesn't sound good. honestly takes the enjoyment out of songs :/ she either overdoes it or it's like something is stuck in her throat, like she's singing with bread stuffed in her mouth
Anonymous No.103820670
>>103820517
>ERB, Risu, Nerissa
That's a fucking amazing lineup
Anonymous No.103820715
>>103815499
this.
Anonymous No.103820725
>>103811400
KEK YWNBJ
Anonymous No.103820767 >>103821790
>>103814646
IRyS is better at singing, you cannot convince me otherwise
Anonymous No.103820768
>>103820214
He's right, she really does need to tone it down a little. I think that'd help a lot
Anonymous No.103820791 >>103820827 >>103821790
>>103814646
Being a good singer is utterly irrelevant when 90% of the people on the planet wouldn't know the difference and 50% of those 90% find her voice grating and unfitting for the songs she sings in hololive.
Anonymous No.103820827
>>103820791
>50% of those 90% find her voice grating and unfitting for the songs she sings in hololive.
[citation needed]
Random clips from her karaoke streams on no name clipper channels can hit higher viewsthan actual covers from other members.
Anonymous No.103820971 >>103820991 >>103821392
>>103811168 (OP)
>extra competent warmup vs hyper idol headliner
Suisei will always have home advantage when it comes to 2D crowd. ERB is lacking when it comes to otaku appeal and teh idol lore. Thats just how it is.
Anonymous No.103820991
>>103820971
I wanna hear them duet.
It'd probably give me chills.
Anonymous No.103821204 >>103828630
>>103814037
Fucking this.
Anonymous No.103821224 >>103821267 >>103821323 >>103828630
>>103814037
Fucking this. She has an ugly singing style. It's not delicate or feminine at all.
Anonymous No.103821242 >>103821790
>>103814646
Nigger, I don't care if she has been taking singing lessons the longest. I don't like listening to her singing. It sounds ugly to me.
Anonymous No.103821267 >>103821307
>>103821224
But enough about Towa
Anonymous No.103821292 >>103821790 >>103822293
>>103814646
I don't give a shit about technical superiority, she sounds god-damned awful to me.
If she wants me to care about her singing skill, she can start by making her singing and her music sound good TO ME and TO MY TASTES.

But, that would require pandering to some male audience member, and she's too proud a British boss bitch to do that.
Anonymous No.103821307
>>103821267
At least Towa is cute.
Anonymous No.103821323
>>103821224
Whether that's good or bad will depend on how she and HoloEN handle her career
Sumetal was also in a similar situation, a great voice that wasn't ideal to make normal Idol music, and the result was Babymetal, and it worked out very well in the end.
Anonymous No.103821391
>>103818145
They should do it to take better care of their throats.
I'm sure Bae started taking classes this year just because of the scare of what happened with Mumei, and she wouldn't have done it if it weren't for that.
Anonymous No.103821392
>>103820971
This too.
Anonymous No.103821472 >>103821739
ERB wouldn't approve you using her in divisive, bot-tier shitposts THOUGH
Anonymous No.103821675
>>103818049
Is IRyS the Frieza to Erb's Goku then? IRyS has never had a singing lesson so if she trained she could probably attain SSJB level right?
Anonymous No.103821739
>>103821472
psst anon, OP is an ERB anti
Anonymous No.103821780 >>103821826
>>103811168 (OP)
>that square of empty seats right in the middle
Scalpers couldn't sell their tickets
Anonymous No.103821790 >>103822690
>>103814715
>>103814744
>>103814876
>>103820767
>>103820791
>>103821242
>>103821292
The absolute state of this board seriously lmao
Imagine getting btfo by facts that you have to backpedal this hard

I don't want you to admit she is great, just don't talk shit about her, it's not hard.
Anonymous No.103821804 >>103821807 >>103821835
>>103811168 (OP)
How much restraint do you think it took to not do her retarded scatting?
Anonymous No.103821807
>>103821804
>How much restraint do you think it took to not do her retarded scatting?
Wait she shits on stage? I thought that was Cece's thing.
Anonymous No.103821826
>>103821780
>Scalpers couldn't sell their tickets
Good.
Anonymous No.103821835
>>103821804
None, because the "no control" is just a no-sense spread by this board. You guys really make-up the worst bullshit just to go against a person.
Anonymous No.103821881 >>103821949
>>103811168 (OP)
can someone share the full archive
Anonymous No.103821949 >>103822431
>>103821881
it's already on one of the most popular torrent sites
Anonymous No.103822035
/vt/
Anonymous No.103822293 >>103825433
>>103821292
You are displaying unironic ME ME ME behavior right now.
Anonymous No.103822409
>>103812651
>self made idol
this anon almost figured out what idol culture is about... almost.
Anonymous No.103822431 >>103822446 >>103822564
>>103821949
spoonfeed pls
Anonymous No.103822446 >>103822516
>>103822431
if you don't even know this much you don't belong here
Anonymous No.103822462 >>103822521
>>103811168 (OP)
ERB has no voice of her own, she can only imitate her superiors.
Anonymous No.103822496
>>103811168 (OP)
closed the video immediately after hearing her butchering japanese
Anonymous No.103822516
>>103822446
there are seven trillion torrent sites out there
Anonymous No.103822521
>>103822462
whatever this means lmao
Anonymous No.103822549
>>103811168 (OP)
She's good, sure. I just don't think stellar stellar is fit for her style of singing. Neither is most of the "traditional" holo/idol music, they're all for higher-pitched voices and everything. But she is doing great, that's hard to argue, singing like that on the regular without destroying your throat in a year is damn impressive at the least.
Anonymous No.103822564 >>103822593
>>103822431
There is one particular torrent site where we get the rips from. meow If you can't figure that out you need to lurk for several more years.
Anonymous No.103822593
>>103822564
thanks, found it
I thought they would be hostile to vtubers, for some reason. I am dum
Anonymous No.103822690 >>103823348
>>103821790
This is cope
Anonymous No.103822717 >>103822797 >>103822895
>>103814646
Anon, tone and timbre exists, the average normie just doesnt know the techincality of it, but non tone deaf people know what sounds good generally even untrained.
Freddie Mercury for example. Erb is a good singer, but she is a bit one note.
Anonymous No.103822797 >>103823049 >>103823704
>>103822717
Isn't that what that guy said? You can dislike the voice that's subjective at the end of the day
Anonymous No.103822895
>>103822717
>but she is a bit one note.
Dude you clearly haven't heard her during karaoke, she can shift between" Jaja Ding-Dong " and ""Why don't you do right" and nail them so well.
Anonymous No.103822927
>>103811168 (OP)
The original has been the worst version ever since it was released. I haven't heard a single cover that's worse.
Anonymous No.103823049 >>103823237
>>103822797
Point is, tone and timbre is measurable and used in judging singing quality. Someone can be absolutely pitch perfect and lose a singing contest.
Anonymous No.103823173
>>103811168 (OP)
>that intro
yeah, she didn't surpass Suisei. Too exaggerated.
Anonymous No.103823185
>>103811168 (OP)
Glad to hear ERB did well.
Anonymous No.103823237
>>103823049
>used in judging singing quality.
Yes but only after you judge the objective first not the other way around
Anonymous No.103823254
>>103811168 (OP)
Terrible
Anonymous No.103823348
>>103822690
yer a cunt fag
simply as
Anonymous No.103823704 >>103823745 >>103823773 >>103826150
>>103814646
>>103822797
It's not really subjective. A cute voice is crucial for the anime girl identity. She sounds like a nightclub slut who has spent the last 15 years shouting over loud dubsteb music trying to convey to the males around her how much she wants their dick. Her voice and personality objectively don't belong in hololive.
Anonymous No.103823745 >>103823892
>>103823704
>A cute voice is crucial for the anime girl identity
Not every anime girls are "cute" you dumbass.
Anonymous No.103823773 >>103823892
>>103823704
I mean, Suisei's voice ain't on cute category either if the cute voice is that crucial for you
Anonymous No.103823807
>>103811201
FPBP
Anonymous No.103823892 >>103823966
>>103823745
Yes they are. The cuteness trait is always high even if they have other traits too. Erb is just trashy and unlikeable in every way
>>103823773
Suisei has always been one of the worst singers in hololive, but she's still better than erb
Anonymous No.103823911
Homosexuals
This place is nothing but homosexuals
go back to #, and please stay there
Anonymous No.103823966 >>103824261
>>103823892
>Yes they are. The cuteness trait is always high even if they have other traits too
No there are several anime characters which take their primary trait the "cool" one. Like pic related for an example,
Anonymous No.103824059 >>103831167
>>103811168 (OP)
Something about the way she sings feels tacky, like she belongs in a cabaret club. If she could control it she would probably be the best singer in hololive but it feels like a taste thing which you can't control. Erb likes tacky, normie shit so the artistic aims will never be in line with her potential.

I think she's more interesting than suisei though, who sounds average. I don't know why they don't push risu more because she's kind of the same as Liz but without the gaudy style.
Anonymous No.103824261 >>103824324
>>103823966
To make a cool anime girl character, you'd adjust both the coolness and cuteness slider in the 50-100% range. To make erb, you'd set both to 0% and instead turn up the whoreness and trashiness sliders
Anonymous No.103824324 >>103824468
>>103824261
You're clearly just shitting on her without knowing what you're talking about and put random rules and percentage despite i show you proof. Like you have even move the goalpost, from "the cuteness trait is awlays high", now you say "it's a slide between 50-100%". Just give up and move on.
Anonymous No.103824427
>>103811168 (OP)
I just don't like her operatic singing.
Anonymous No.103824468 >>103824503
>>103824324
Your "proof" was a girl with high cuteness and high coolness, so you only proved my point
Anonymous No.103824503
>>103824468
>Orfevre
>high cuteness
Anon...
Anonymous No.103824584 >>103824723
Covers are very rarely as good as originals, and I'd prefer to listen to Suisei's version because I just like her voice better in a subjective way, but ERB is objectively a god tier singer and from a technical perspective the best in the company. If you think she sucks you're a retard and you're confirming you don't understand musical ability
Anonymous No.103824619
>>103811168 (OP)
Why do Twitter people keep posting on this board? Go back to /mans/ or better yet stay on X
Anonymous No.103824723 >>103824743 >>103824797 >>103838025
>>103824584
Irrelevant, as timbre of the voice is much more important than technique. It's more pleasant listening to someone with good timbre who doesn't get a single note right than listening to her. Not to mention her technique isn't that good either, her voice is just loud and manly (probably picked it up from the homo collabs)
Anonymous No.103824743
>>103824723
Idiot
Anonymous No.103824797 >>103824925
>>103824723
>shits on ERB
>ending his sentence mentioning the Homos
Like a clockwork
Anonymous No.103824925 >>103825499
>>103824797
Well she's basically one of them. What's funny is that she'd still be the worst singer even among them
Anonymous No.103824965
>vtuber
>god tier singer
lmao
sorry, but unikeks win this one
Anonymous No.103825390
>>103811168 (OP)
Anon you don't need to false flag to make me dislike ERB.
Anonymous No.103825405
>>103811168 (OP)
>For me
Good for you anon, you don't need a retardation diagnosis from the doctor.
Anonymous No.103825433 >>103825495
>>103822293
I'm just explaining my individual tastes nona.
Anonymous No.103825495
>>103825433
Ignore him hes an EN shart. They aren't the brightest.
Anonymous No.103825499
>>103824925
seethe
Anonymous No.103825614 >>103825656 >>103827447
I think ERBs skills are very impressive and she has a powerful voice.
I just wish she didn't sing any weebshit because she sucks at it. Her pronouciation is god awful, and her voice doesn't fit Stellar Stellar at all, as well as many other anime girl songs.
I don't really care about her being a homocollaber, but I really didn't like this cover.
Her Alice&U was the better song of her that night, although she still was the least enjoyable of the three for me.
But still, powerful voice, honestly very impressive technique, but she's literally made for normieshit.
Anonymous No.103825656
>>103825614
>I don't really care about her being a homocollaber
You didn't have to mention it, and still you had to point it out.
Don't worry anon, your opinion doesn't really matter after this choice of words.
Anonymous No.103826150 >>103826646 >>103826788
>>103823704
>A cute voice is crucial for the anime girl identity
Tourist.
>Dick mention
Cuck tourist.
Anonymous No.103826646 >>103827944 >>103831110
>>103826150
>someone trying to preserve the quality of the culture is a tourist
>someone not supporting sluts is a cuck
Nice projection
Anonymous No.103826788
>>103826150
>an ENshart calling other people tourists
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Anonymous No.103827447
>>103825614
>Her pronouciation is god awful
And still better than 99% of indies and most of HoloEN. It's always easy to spot indie seethe cope when they go after her pronunciation. I saw it during her debut too, I was in calls with other indies seething and raging about her pronunciation and all I could think was dude yours is even worse let alone the other two here you just glazed a week prior. Let alone that half of them claim to speak Japanese, and she doesn't speak it at all. The fact is that they had to hold her to a much higher standard or it wasn't possible to seethe about how bad she is.
Anonymous No.103827944
>>103826646
>someone trying to preserve the quality of the culture is a tourist
You're trying too hard with your headcanon
Anonymous No.103828065 >>103828207
>>103814646
>Being able to sing(and belt) within your supported register while projecting a powerful resonance at the mid-high notes without losing tonal quality making use of a damn near flawless melisma free of strain is extremely impressive
that'd be great if she was able to do any of that, she isnt. The fact you mentioned her resonance as a good thing makes it clear you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. She's nasal and quavering
Anonymous No.103828207
>>103828065
unironically fix your ears.
Anonymous No.103828316
>>103811168 (OP)
ERB is the Michael Bublé of vtubers
she can hit all the notes but it still sounds like shit
Anonymous No.103828359 >>103829750
Isn't Suisei filipina? That one photo of her outstretching her arm toward the camera while standing on a roof
Anonymous No.103828403 >>103828490
>>103814037
You sound obsessed.
Anonymous No.103828490 >>103828592 >>103828685 >>103844328
>>103828403
>guy watched her once and didnt like her
>Y-you're obsessed!
ERB's fags, I dont even know your fan-name or if she even cared enough to give you one, are REALLY bad at arguing for her
Anonymous No.103828592
>>103828490
If we had IDs I would bet my soul that that anon's reply wasn't his first post ITT or in any of the half dozen ERB bait threads posted in the last few hours. Who posts in obvious anti-threads of girls they're ambivalent towards anyway?
Anonymous No.103828630 >>103828672
>>103814037
Gachasloppers should not be allowed to post their dogshit opinions.

Also
>>103821204
>>103821224
I can smell the samefag a mile off
Anonymous No.103828672 >>103828779
>>103828630
i don't like how erb sings. simple as that.
Anonymous No.103828685 >>103828736
>>103828490
To be fair he said she sang like a bitch libtard whatever that is supposed to mean. It's very reasonable to conclude that anon is a mentally unwell retard just from that.
Anonymous No.103828736
>>103828685
His singing style preference is MTG.
Anonymous No.103828779
>>103828672
That's totally valid, man. I just wanted to hate on gacha for a bit. Unless you're the samefag in which case get raped.
Anonymous No.103828780
Thanks for all the replies, didn't think my bait would go this well.
Anonymous No.103828868 >>103829226 >>103830349
i know this thread is bait but fuck it

ERB is a good entertainer, but that's it.

The reason she's so popular for singing is that she did covers that appealed to fandoms in her pl that everyone has probably heard at some point. She sings like a b-grade cabaret performer, but she sang songs that weren't getting covers yet and/or pandered to a lot of communities that were desperate for content that sounded even a little bit good. and yeah, even communities that she was desperate to escape from for years afterwards.

fast forward, and now everyone thinks that her "belting" singing voice is good, when really it sounds like she's untrained, nasal, and straining her voice. the belting really does sound unnatural and forced and like she's not singing in the range or style that works for her.

TL;DR: holo please get ERB real singing lessons before she permanently wrecks her voice
Anonymous No.103829226
>>103828868
>The reason she's so popular for singing is that she did covers that appealed to fandoms in her pl that everyone has probably heard at some point
No, it's because she is a great singer.
Now go home.
Anonymous No.103829750
>>103828359
This thread finally showing its true colors.
Anonymous No.103829896
>>103811168 (OP)
Don't care, don't like her or her singing
Anonymous No.103830349 >>103831263 >>103832329
>>103828868
Real issue is that she is not fitting in, just that. And not even culturally, that could be easily flipped into an advantage with proper character arc.
Issue is pretty much logistical in nature - Holo will provide you with limited pool of producers, most with backgrounds in electronic/pop-rock music, cause doujin circles, duh.
Fitting in her style of vocals into typical edm-y or pop-rocky song is a challenge doujin/b-grade anime composers/producers simply not ready for. And to make matter worse cover cannot afford to spend mad money for regular live band recordings that will properly highlight her strong sides with numbers she brings in.
Unless ERB somehow manages to secure extremely favorable label contract, she always gonna be an awkward child of HoloEn.
Anonymous No.103831110 >>103833128
>>103826646
Go watch My Hero Academia or whatever waifu slop got you into anime during covid.
One Holomem talking like an actual adult won't take your screeching lolis away.
Anonymous No.103831167
>>103824059
>I don't know why they don't push risu more
Because she does fucking nothing. Like 5 years later her only relevant song is the one she sang again yesterday, everytime she sings in ANY event she steals the show and has both holos and fans gushing over her, even Suisei called her the Celine Dion of hololive, and instead of keeping the ball rolling by doing things as basic as releasing covers or at least doing more karaokes she just fucks off for days and comes back with morning zatsudan part 638578, and then months pass and everyone collectively forgets she exists again just like before the concert. "why they don't push risu more" because she doesn't give a shit truly, and it's frustrating as fuck.
Anonymous No.103831257
>>103816940
She has plenty of songs where she sings more softly. She has a powerful voice but she isn't a retard who thinks belting out no matter the context is good, see Bluerose, Debutante Ball, Orbital Period, Ryuseigun, her Shoujo Rei cover.
Anonymous No.103831263
>>103830349
As an ERB casual fan, I agree with this sentiment. Her being a bad fit for Hololive has nothing to do with her actual talent but with Cover's faults. Multiple talents have been dissatisfied with Cover's connections within music industry, especially when it comes to mixing. They very clearly don't care about the talent's vision for their own content and won't change their ways just to accomodate a member who's not even popular to begin with. It will be hard for ERB to shine if the environment isn't fit.
Anonymous No.103831835 >>103832014 >>103832150
Can someone enlighten me on how she convinced herself to audition in the first place? I don’t know anything about her PL, but it’s painfully obvious that she isn’t much of a weeb like Irys who loves Eurobeat and Gundam. She’s seriously not a great fit for Holo culturally speaking. Cover was basically ticking a box for EU talents and got too enamored with her technique that she misuses.
Anonymous No.103832014 >>103832077
>>103831835
considering she deleted everything on her old youtube despite her huge success, she wanted to go scorched earth with her pl and succeed in streaming with a completely different peer group. she never broke out of being a sub-100ccv streamer on twitch, and even tried rebranding a few times.
Anonymous No.103832077 >>103832310
>>103832014
Was she a vtuber before though? I literally know nothing about her at all other than I don’t like how she sings most of the time and that’s what her strength is. I don’t relate to her much at all as a potential fan.
Anonymous No.103832150 >>103832265
>>103831835
Supposedly she was basically about to quit before getting in, so it was probably just a 1 last try at something given her age. She's not really a great fit but I also don't really think she's a bad fit either, so time will tell if she can develop into something more.
Anonymous No.103832265 >>103832475
>>103832150
It’s no surprise she wasn’t getting anywhere as a streamer before. Her personality is a bit too bland for it. I suppose she’ll do okay on the strength of her singing, but even after a year she still feels misplaced in holo.
Anonymous No.103832310 >>103832336 >>103832541
>>103832077
no worries anon, didn't want to rehash too much in case i was paragraphposting

separate from her youtube vids she did a lot of vrchat roleplay streams in 2019/2020 onwards, and that turned into vtubing with mostly twitch sings/karaoke at some point, not really sure of the timeline but possibly 2021/22?

if you look up her pl you'll see her pl, she was well connected and well known, but streaming just never worked out for her
Anonymous No.103832329
>>103830349
>with numbers she brings in
What numbers?
Anonymous No.103832336
>>103832310
>if you look up her pl you'll see her pl
i am stupid i meant you'll see her model
Anonymous No.103832456 >>103832672
bloodfart and susie are the chad kroegers of chuuba singers. Sure, they can do the "mmmmyeah" belting and music autists like you are gonna frreak out about it, doesn't mean normal people are gonna like it, though.
Anonymous No.103832475 >>103832591
>>103832265
She needs to open up a bit more, she keeps herself very private. As much as people bring them up she doesn't even do all that much with the homos, I've kept an eye on her twitch RP since that's her PL group and she seems more lively with them so I think she can improve but someone probably needs to crack her shell.
Anonymous No.103832541
>>103832310
Ah okay thanks. Yeah, I found her old YT. The remaining songs that are up make it hard to believe she reached 650k subs organically, but I don’t know what she deleted, so it’s hard to judge. Supposedly she was popular in some niche fandoms?
Anonymous No.103832591 >>103832718
>>103832475
She’s still active with them over there?
Anonymous No.103832672
>>103832456
people very fucking clearly like suisei and her music though. bad example.
Anonymous No.103832718 >>103832769
>>103832591
Yeah they started a VRC RP series 2 months or so back now, and she made a twitch and joined. She even made an original for the series, but only has half of it released till they get further into the story.
Anonymous No.103832769 >>103833717
>>103832718
Wow, I’m a bit surprised she has the time for that, but I guess some of the other girls have their own side projects too.
Anonymous No.103832913
>>103811168 (OP)
>im gonna do the famous opening song
>can you hit the opening?
>no
weird british lady is weird
Anonymous No.103833128 >>103833176
>>103831110
>One Holomem talking like an actual adult won't take your screeching lolis away.
There's a limited amount of spots in hololive, so erb, with her smoker hag voice, already took away a position from someone who's cute and more deserving and doesn't have her awful personality
Anonymous No.103833176 >>103833345
>>103833128
they're never gonna make a loli gen you dumb fuck. if it wasn't gonna be erb it was gonna be someone else who also had a deep oneesan voice.
Anonymous No.103833345 >>103835343
>>103833176
No one's talking about lolis, and she doesn't have an oneesan voice, just a generic trailer trash voice with a strong shade of masculinity
Anonymous No.103833717 >>103835750
>>103832769
RP is like her thing after karaoke and Enreco once every 6 months probably isn't really enough for her so makes sense. It's a bit of a shame it took so long for her to get something going and also it being isolated on twitch doesn't help.
Anonymous No.103834661
>>103811168 (OP)
Has to be bait. Borrowed glory and proud of it for her? Get real
Anonymous No.103835107
I dunno how to put it in "music terms" but ERB just sounds off and I don't like it. I even usually like what I would consider more powerful singing but there's something about ERB that doesn't work for me.
Anonymous No.103835343 >>103835626
>>103833345
You sound very angry, Anon. Are you jealous? Are you low test? You can train your voice to sound more masculine just look up for tranny voice coaches. Good luck anon!
Anonymous No.103835626
>>103835343
>You can train your voice to sound more masculine just look up for tranny voice coaches
Oh so that's what she did. Makes sense why she thinks she's one of the homos
Anonymous No.103835750 >>103836164 >>103836657
>>103833717
Maybe she’ll try to get DND going in HoloLive, it could be fun, but I guess she’d want to include the homos so it wouldn’t ever truly work.
Anonymous No.103836164 >>103836305
>>103835750
Didn't Calli try before? It was very cringe. I think the best you can get out of roleplay are the Minecraft, GTA, Rust, etc games where it's not as much into the imaginary
Anonymous No.103836305
>>103836164
Ah true, I guess I did forget about that. I just figured that could be ERB’s niche other than being a skilled singer.
Anonymous No.103836657 >>103836723
>>103835750
I believe she has mentioned it, and even talked about looking at DM's. She's been fine separating them so far, so I don't imagine she'd have any problems with running it without them. It really is a question just what cover has her doing that she can't get around to other things, she always mentions recording and while she does seemingly have 3 unreleased covers in her playlist that still doesn't really explain it.
Anonymous No.103836723
>>103836657
with all the recording they all claim to do to the amount we actually see released tehy must mostly record private unreleased shit for saudi princes and shit
Anonymous No.103837639
>>103812651
Suisei's cover of Phony is good, she's undeniably talented. The world is full of good singers but they do need production that stands out and matches them. Just singing well can only take you so far. ERB's cover with Mint was also good, it's not coincidental the cover is campy and dramatic and the whole vibe is more showy than serious.
Anonymous No.103837808 >>103839254
>>103814646
It might be technically impressive but I don't like listening to it which is what matters more
Anonymous No.103838025
>>103824723
Her timbre is clear and strong, unlike most holos who do cutesy/whiney or excessively breathy. The cacophony that comes out of Shiori's mouth is an example of bad timbre.
Anonymous No.103838581
Her version sucked. It was like if your theater teacher came out and sang Stellar Stellar. The Risu one was pretty good, but she got mogged by Risu which is why you fags aren't shit posting with that song.
Anonymous No.103839254 >>103839728
>>103837808
That's basically why indie scenes exist in music, technical ability isn't everything.
Anonymous No.103839728
>>103839254
>why indie scenes exist in music
try popular music since the 60s. half of these rock/country/folk bands have god awful singers who sing their heart outs anyway and people love them. neil young sings like ass but i love listening to him sing.
Anonymous No.103844328
>>103828490
only once? that's hardly a basis to form an opinion.
Anonymous No.103846994 >>103848687
>>103811168 (OP)
Great performance
Anonymous No.103848687
>>103846994
Agree