Thread 103817100

>>103817638
>These faggots have zero idea how professional art industry works
The fucking irony of this statement. Please tell me how it works. Please tell me how Ina LOVES AI.

>>103818268
>Is there any other examples besides the JP3 backgrounds?
Well obviously some of the backgrounds at the HoloEN concert and the ENReco merch that had extra fingers/joints.

>>103817100 (OP)
artists can be a liability. public crashouts, getting arrested for some shit like stalking schoolgirls, leaks etc. then time and money has to be spent replacing everything while mems get dragged by antis, cc looking for any reason to hate on them like what happened to sakuna

best to limit this risk, especially for shit like backgrounds most people dont give two fucks about as long as they do it right

>>103818762
This. I hope the next holo gen are all AI designed.

>>103818762
>cc looking for any reason to hate on them
Maybe Ceci is the problem, not the artists

>>103818693
Translator.
I usually use Faster Whisper first to get a transcript, then I ask GPT to translate it for me. Then I actually watch the video and make the necessary corrections. What used to take me a day and a half of work, I now do before lunch.
I've done this for movies and TV shows.
For example, I did the translation for the Mario movie in my country like this, kek

>>103818784
Why stop there? Use AI for the voices too. Hell, they should just hire Vedal to make 4-5 different Neuro AIs for a new Holo generation. No need to hire any new members.

>>103818711
Can you post the ENReco one?

>>103817317
>PENIS above Kiara's hand
What did Cover mean by this?

>>103817100 (OP)
>People worried that Dooby will make an AI Vtuber.
>It's actually an alt account just to post her desks & pets, & say the N word.
>Hololive uses AI after that.
Weird coincidence.

>>103817317
hehe penis

>>103817247
>Even professional JP mangaka and Western artists use AI nowadays
New Sekiro anime is using AI, it's genuinely over.

>>103817727
>AI with an artist proof checking it is 10000x better than relying on the AI itself.
While you are 100% correct to say that AI work (in any field) proof-checked by a human is at least 10000x better than AI work not proof-checked by a human, having a human proof-check AI work means paying a human a non-zero amount of money to do a non-zero amount of work, which defeats the purpose of using AI in the first place. It is a tool, but with very few exceptions (Vedal being the biggest exception in the vtuber scene) it's a tool used by the suits at techbro companies to cut payroll costs by having one schmuck at a regular-ass office PC spend two minutes typing a few keywords to do work cheaper and faster than having a team of competent artists taking a few hours to actually make art that doesn't look like eldritch ass.
It's like the techbros either forgot or never learned the old adage:
>You have three options
>cheap, fast, good
>You can only pick at most two options; can't has all three at the same time, not yours
AI can make "art" cheaper and faster than humans; but it's not better, not by a long shot. And AI is still struggling badly with the "how" part of art, never mind how hard of a time AI will have with the "why" part.

....In any case, Ina and Raora would be too busy with all of that "singing and dancing" stuff to proof-check the AI art.

>>103817195
It was initially uaed ironically to make fun of holofags whenever they acted hypocritically but they started using it themselves unironically

>>103818709
>If you don't hate AI and aren't offended by it that means you LOVE IT
Average art fag iq.
Hey retard; not everyone lives off patreon money and has to worry about getting replaced like you.

>>103819521
Well the reality is that your industry has successfully be circumvented by fools who accept lower quality due to that insane speed of convenience and attainability.
There have been many artisans / professions in the past where the knowledge has not been inherited properly to the next generation since the alternative was so easily mass produced.
The sad part of the situation is that what skills you impart to your AI structure the big tech company is privy to all those advancements and will render you obsolete quite quickly. The fact is AI learning is a super beast and will replace jobs whether you like it or not. So its best to master the new environment and 'market' middle manage, own your own iteration of AI centered work to generate a reputation. Since some companies will choose sloppy but the market does not have one that enforces a business focused on AI generated styles to a company's brand and touch ups.

>>103819796 (me)
you also need to understand only certain instances and industries demand over 98% perfection. Commercial art is not one of them. They would prefer excellence over something that requires little attention for speed. That is why people accepted shitty computer Japanese animation compared to the old method of hand drawn art. Speed is important and independent artists are so fucking awful at delivering on time.

>>103819880
>you also need to understand only certain instances and industries demand over 98% perfection.
>Commercial art is not one of them.
>They would prefer excellence over something that requires little attention for speed.
>That is why people accepted shitty computer Japanese animation compared to the old method of hand drawn art.
??????

>>103817100 (OP)
>what do you mean I am not special and people prefer something that cost 1% my rate despite it having small mistakes that 99% of people won't notice?

>>103819657
You're totally right. The only reason anyone could ever dislike AI is commissions. You're so damn intelligent.

>>103818936
>Can you post the ENReco one?
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/96069426/
Biboo had 4 fingers while Bae had 6 fingers along with extra joints. They likely used AI art for most of the ENreco merch and while making repairs they missed a few.

>>103820032
>quit my job to make AI art
>other artists hate me because my method is just different
>put in work to make the style consistent and clean and edit my images using mspaint and more ai.
>game released is praised despite being AI
AI is the best thing to ever happen to me

>>103820092
biboo's has 5 fingers the pic they took is just shit bea's does actually have issue though

>>103817100 (OP)
>Twitter hates it.
>4 chin defends it.
Since when did we switch places?

>>103817727
>my factory produced slop is le good
lolno, you will never produce art, just more manufactured slop

>>103817317
>>103818955
>be me years ago
>buy a tablet for osu
>quit because of hand pain
>never draw anything
>fast forward to today
>the urge to shitpost with a drawing is too strong
>an AI fuckup literally made me draw something with my tablet for the first time
https://litter.catbox.moe/0seyae4cosbqsbls.png

>>103819880
youre retarded and youre the type of nigger who watches the 3d berserk slop and think its good. go walk infront of a train, abdul.

>>103820546
Shit like 3d berserk and QUALITY anime cgi is exactly the kind of thing that would've been better if it was AI-assisted. If companies were already too cash strapped to hire enough artists before why would they be able to hire more artists now even if AI doesn't exist? AI is going to reduce workloads for small studios and allow artists to focus on things that matters in their work now.

>>103819136
Everyone loves the Sekiro anime though.

>>103818887
As long you're still making the same amount as before. Get that bag.

>>103819136
One cherry-picked frame is hardly proof of AI, no matter how many retweets a content-farming account gets.

>>103818552
She don't hate ai, she hate people claim they an artist like those stolen valor.

>>103820953
Before AIslop there's art tracers too

>>103820343
Most of 4chan is indian, they literally get paid to shill and defend AIslop in every board.

>>103820972
With AIslop there's a new breed of faggot around: AIslop "artists" who repost other people's untagged gens as if they were their own actual drawings, under fanart tags.

>>103818492
No I just hate artists because they're all whiny entitled faggots. OP case in point

>>103820746
Why would the AI stuff help small studios. The big difference between the best work and the rest is attention to detail. When you have to tweak to get that detail AI is kind of terrible at making micro changes and most places are better off starting over. A small studio are better off not bothering in the first place unless they do not care at all about quality and will leave in all the crappy AI parts. The larger studios who can build custom tools and hire larger teams to tweak and fix the jank or maybe super small crazy teams like with voices from a distant star could get something out of it.

>>103821000
and spread bbc/tranny porn on all the nsfw subs. its IDF psy-op trying to turn internet losers into femboys and suicidal.

>>103821000
>Most of 4chan is indian
As opposed to fucking twitter? Calling out shitty lazy AI gens is one thing, but the people going in to a seething rage and losing their shit any time it's brought up are lefty fags who are looking for more things to be mad about and harass others for, and retarded online artists who are afraid they won't be able to scam people any more.
These tools aren't going away, no matter how much you shit your pants. Your best bet is to hope it gets better sooner so we won't have to put up with obvious low-quality generated shit.

>>103817730
>accountants
>software engineers
>mechanical engineers
>chemical engineers
>architects

Ah yes, the liberal arts that are getting demonetized by generative algorithms

>>103821000
Literally every person I've seen get mad about AI publicly is either a furry or a troon

Cucks will pay tickets for several hundreds of dollars, get low quality unchecked AI garbage and defend it.
If it's not cuckholding I don't know what it is.
You do deserve this.

>>103817272
>be criticized for using AI
>react like a schizophrenic asshole
>"Why do people hate AItards so much?"

>>103818450
Thats corpo dick sucking for you

>pays attention to the background
>instead of the fucking idols literally performing infront of them that they paid to watch
Who the fuck does this

>>103818956
They weren’t worried they wanted to make fun of her. But since it’s hololive it’s ok because they’ll never say anything against the corpo that gives them their daily dose of dick

>>103817272
This, hopefully they start AI generating all of their models in the future and get a program that automates rigging. Artists deserve nothing.

>>103819136
People aren't hating it for using AI, they're hating it because Crunchyroll.

>>103821095
>Why would the AI stuff help small studios.
>small studio are better off not bothering in the first place
ok

>>103821167
You got your "I"s confused there anon.
One "I" shits on the boards
the other "I" shits on the streets.

>>103822021
>mouthbreather is unable to take in the entire scene and is proud of it

>>103818685
>No supporting argument or anything
Ah, so you have nothing to show.

>>103822186
The images are in the link in the OP. I asked as you blind. Looks like the answer is yes.

>>103822198
>I asked as you blind
Ah, ESL floundering and sperging. Must be a day ending in y.

>>103822179
The backdrop was fine and they didn't pay some entitled hack artist for it which means more money in my oshis pocket. Win win

>>103822253
>can't spot a typo
ESL ape located.

>>103822289
Next they should get AI to produce their tracks. AI songs are dope and it's best to get as much money as possible into our oshi's pockets.

>>103822347
Not even that anon, but if AI can, they should. Anything to make my oshi's life easier, really.

>>103822347
If they can do it and it sounds good why not? It's not like Hololive original songs are incredibly complex in the first place

>>103822336
>A typo
>"as" instead of "are" is a typo
Lmao. You are so fucking stupid dude. Keep talking, it's hilarious to see you sperging.

>>103822437
The fact that you were able to discern what word was intended to go there proves that it's a typo, ape.

>>103821000
>Most of 4chan is indian, they literally get paid to shill and defend AIslop in every board.
From a SE's perspective, this makes no sense. The jobs that are at most risks are the junior / fresh graduate jobs and routine jobs (AI isn't posing any risk at other high level jobs anytime soon) - those are the ones Indians (or immigrants in general) usually take.
Ergo, if anything, you'd expect Indians to be vehemently against AI, not the other way around

I’m starting to think that it isn’t holofags asking for AI in this thread

>>103822459
>You know how English sentence structure works, that means my obvious and blatant butchery was just a typo!
God damn that is some impressive moonlogic anon.

>>103822519
You lost, chimp.

>>103822543
Keep telling yourself that, anon, I'm sure that'll make you less of a retard somehow... Just to let you know, your sentence isn't proper English even if you did use "are" instead of "as" so even if I accepted your laughably stupid "typo" excuse you still look like a moronic ESL.

>>103822596
>going on about some irrelevant shit when it was proven that you're a blind retard that can't spot the most obvious AI
Keep it up, ESL ape.

>>103822517
It is. Holochads are all for any kind of cost cutting measure.

>>103822613
>N-no you're blind, I can't actually back up this claim and have been sperging ever since but it's true!
Anon, it's amusing how dead-set you are at proving you don't really understand English at a basic level. Me calling you an ESL was secondary to the main claim that you were floundering and sperging due to a lack of actual argument. Your own accusation then applies more to you than anyone else.

>>103822656
You are blind.

>>103818887
this is the correct use of AI and people don't get it, you still need someone skilled steering the wheel but that someone is working at twice the efficiency. artist cucks don't understand this.

>>103822644
How convincing

>>103822667
And you are repeating yourself and sperging random nonsense more than the AI you're crying about. Keep it up buddy, you'll surely look cool if you keep going.

>>103820405
KEK
Stop using shitterbox, fucker

>>103822698
It's the same with programming. AI can spit out endless amounts of barely functional garbage, but a decent programmer can spend less than half the time they used to by simply sorting through and fixing the mess instead of having to write every function by hand.

Also artists are a god damn mess, and have always been a mess, usually requiring multiple revisions to get to a decent result. A smart artist can take generative art and fix it which is still a valuable skill, but the usual slop artists won't be able to benefit and will actually need to get good, but they're also lazy fucks so they rather bitch and whine on twitter.

>>103822705
So you admit that it's AI then. The reason you're sperging out must be because you're embarrassed about not being able to spot it yourself and got called blind.

>>103822734
>So you admit that it's AI then.
No, anon. Nowhere in my post did I do any such thing or anything remotely close to it. Good job proving once again that you do not understand basic English even a little bit.

>>103818221
>The only people AI won't b
Every subsequent group of people that has been "replaced" said the same thing.
>Nuh uh it won't happen AIs don't understand X and Y
>AI can produce X and Y
>le pikachu face
AI has currently hit a hard cap - sheer compute power.
Throwing more shit at the wall like the retards are currently doing won't fix shit.
The only true advance in AI recently was Deepseeks total redo of how Transformers worked, which is why AI is even as good as it is right now, and as fast as it is.

>>103818441
I look forward to you screeching in a years time.
Remember me, I will be the voices in your head saying "told you so".
AI will replace you, me, and everyone else.
AI will replace the people making AI.
AI has already produced AI children on its own before, the only reason nobody does it as a product is the fact it isn't profitable in any capacity, and it cannot be controlled as well.
All current AI models have been improved on via using the older models to auto-generate said models with human supervision.

>>103822754
>the AI you're crying about
The thread and the complaints are about the background. You just referred to it as AI, ESL ape.

AI cannot function autonomously so the only people AI is replacing are people who don't want to use AI.

>>103822812
People who don't want to use AI will be replaced by it.

>>103817100 (OP)
This is probably for shareholders. Using AI is good for stock price.

>>103821859
which is funny, because as a avid ai user who released a model that people share their creations with, a large majority of porn made with it is furries and futanari and focus mainly on large veiny penises.

>>103822786
Anon. You're complaining about the AI background, that does not imply or suggest that I believe your complaints are valid, and I have done nothing but suggest that I do not believe they are. You are functionally retarded for not being able to comprehend this basic rhetoric.

>>103821859
Which one of those are all the holos who said to not post AI art in their tags?

>>103822845
That actually explains both sides pretty well. Furry porn is a big chunk of commission money so if Furries are happy to get their big veiny penis porn for free with AI that will make a lot of artists who have been riding that train very angry

>>103822860
>the AI background,
There you go again admitting that it's AI
>that does not imply or suggest that I believe your complaints are valid
You claimed it's not AI when you said
>Faggots says everything is AI

>>103822861
Does that count at getting mad at AI? Retarded, sure but I don't think that's anger, the actual meltdowns you see with people like OP freaking out over a singular piece of AI art visible in anything? Yeah thats a tranny.

>>103822902
Cool mental gymnastics, anon.
You would claim anyone telling an AIslopper to fuck off from FA tags is mad about AI but when a holo does it they're suddenly not angry.

>>103822921
Is that an indirect admission you're seething right now if a simple request is indicative of irrational anger to you? Makes sense you anti AI cultists are hyper emotional and retarded, probably all the horse piss hormones you're taking

>>103822901
No, anon, that statement does not admit that it is, it explains that you're complaining about it. If I say "you're stupid for complaining about pink elephants" that doesn't suggest that I believe pink elephants actually exist you dumb fuck. If anything it suggests that I believe you're stupid for complaining about something that doesn't even exist.
>You said...
Different anon, retard. You might want to check the return policy on your magic eight ball, it's broken.

>>103822956
>Different anon, retard.
Then why are you even replying to me, ESL ape?

>>103822704
Why wouldn't holochads want to cut costs wherever possible?

>>103822969
>W-why is someone on a public forum speaking to me when I say ridiculously stupid shit! Also y-you're the ESL now somehow!
Lol.

>>103823219
You saw some else getting called blind and acted like it was directed at you, ESL ape.

>>103823137
Wow I’m so convinced

>>103817100 (OP)
at least AI can't fuck minors...yet

>>103823270
>Still getting it completely wrong
Hilarious. How are you still confidently deciding random guesses is a good way to identify who you're talking to when it's failed so spectacularly? Are you completely lacking in self-awareness? (You are, that question is purely rhetorical)

>>103823392
I even said you admitted it's AI and then you said you didn't do that which means you made a claim about the background no being AI. Even if you're not the original retard you're still a retard who claimed it's not AI.

>>103823431
>Y-you're a retard for pointing my claim is retarded and wrong!
Lol. Infantile. Prove your claim, buddy.

>>103823450
Why do you keep claiming that an obvious AI image isn't AI? Are you blind?

>>103817100 (OP)
this IS the work of a "professional" artist you fucking nimrods
those little shits will do anything to accept money and skip work, this the natural endgoal

>>103823572
Are you brain damaged?

>>103823467
Your AI is looping again anon, fix it.

>>103823675
You're blind.

>>103823609
should I have made it clearer? Cover isn't using AI, the artist they paid used AI

>>103823733
This might come as a surprise to you but "Cover" isn't a single person.

>>103823691
This statement is false.

>>103817100 (OP)
Don’t care
Awful people have whined do hard about AI that they’ve made it impossible for me to care about this
It’s the new Green Party, where even if it’ll the complaints have a bit of weight, the people pushing them are so fucking insufferable that nobody cares anymore

>>103823898
>Anon proudly making statements that expose him as mentally being an infant.
Good job I guess? Well done being childishly obstinate, you did it!

>>103823928
Don’t care >w<

So that's why Ina's gonna graduate
They literally humiliated her with this AI slop

>>103822837
If it makes the shareholders happy then I'm happy. If you don't think this way, you're not a real Holofan.

>holo uses ai
>board defends ai
do holocuckd even

>>103824381
>Pig licking the anus of twitter artists is sperging about people not upset at AI
Aren't you ashamed of yourself even a little bit, piggy?

>>103824443
How’s Yagoo’s cock fag?

I normally stand up to faggot antis slandering Holomem for no reason in the catalog, but I'll be fair: it's gay that they used AI, and it looks like absolute shit. The criticism is valid.

>>103817317
damn cover's even creating their own fake language! How impressive of them!

>>103817730
>liberal arts
>when it's graphic designers who are getting fucked over the most here
/pol/ has rotted your brain.

>>103824443
>twitter artists
Find a new boogeyman AI shitter.

>>103824833
>N-no you!!
Ah, so you could have just said "no anon, I'm a disgusting pig and I like it that way" instead of sharing your pitiful fanfiction.

>>103824917
Please go outside. There's better things to do than white knight cartoon ewhores on 4chan. Even just masturbating in your bedroom would be a better use of your time.

>>103818441
>AI is limited as fuck and we're not going to see the improvements you think will happen.
I remember when people were saying this back during the "AI will never draw hands properly!" era. How long was that, I wonder...

>>103825840
Please go outside. There's better things to do than talk down to strangers on 4chan. Even just masturbating in your bedroom would be a better use of your time.

>>103818906
They should build super advanced physical robot bodies for those AI chuubas to inhabit. Then, someone should hack them before their live show to do a stripper routine on stage. That would be cool I think.

>>103817247
AI only exists until the first lawsuit

>>103827007
true, LLM training has essentially been the most massive instance of intellectual property theft ever

>>103827007
>muh lawsuits
>muh law
governments have 0 power. politicians will never do anything about AI either because they see the money it makes or because they know that banning it will make fall behind the countries that don't (china)

AI is inevitable, there has never been an instance of technology being straight up banned from existing and this won't be the first

Couldn't they have at least replaced or removed the nonsensical AI text?

>>103828037
That would require someone who is being paid for their time.

I feel so sorry for Kiara because she toils and toils for this company and they tarnish her name with this shit

>>103827383
>they see the money it makes
negative amounts? meta is already downsizing their department kek. the only one making money is nvidia, because they are selling shovels during the retard rush

>>103827383
>People get DMCA'd over crickets chirping and this retard thinks AI using stolen media will be ok
AI wont be banned, governments wont legislate against it, it'll just be someone suing over stolen art and everyone shitting themselves
AI is just the new NF, metaverse etc "revolution" that idiots fall for

>>103825840
anon i think you just really like telling men to jack off

>>103817125
Except this is ai. Unless the person who was drawing those backgrounds were extremely drunk.

>>103817660
Then the Civil War happened

>>103824988
Drawing on a computer doesn't make the drawing any less worthless.

>>103829208
Not downsizing their department, freezing hiring. Considering the rumored bonuses and aqui-hires they made in the past months, this is warranted.

>>103820806
It's not even out yet and the game is trash and waste of money unless you're an autist who likes spending 10 hours on every boss fight

>>103829593
good for Pang, Zuck is never getting ROI from that lmao

>>103817100 (OP)
>hundreds of empty seats
>using AI instead of art from a hard working artist
what the fuck is going on with cover

>>103820830
>One cherry-picked frame
and the studio saying on their website "Oh yeah we're using AI"

>>103817100 (OP)
Holonig barely make money they can't pay real artist to draw kek

Why are twitter artists, who often are very low in artistic skill or merit, whine so much about AI? They're not getting paid for their shit, bottom tier art so it's not like they lost their 'job' to AI.

>holo fans are indian
>official holo 3D ""artists"" are indian
It's over...

>>103830479
Is there something wrong with having empty seats? It means they overestimated EN's popularity and got a venue where everyone that wanted to go could.
Given the use of AI to cut costs, you can expect a much smaller venue next time (assuming you're getting any EN concert at all).

>>103830592
Because they need commissions to make any money. All top artists like hololive mamas love AI and support it's use.

>>103817137
spbp

>>103817125
The last image I can't really see it at least not as zoomed in as it is but the second picture not only makes it blindingly obvious, it also looks REALLY bad lmao

>>103817100 (OP)
Oh no. That's awful. Anyway.

>>103825840
Faggot

>>103817317
>>103817100 (OP)
>>103830758
SAAAR THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS
SIR YAGOO DID THE NEEDFUL FOR MAXIMUM PROFIT
YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS OF THE HOLOLIVE IN BRAND

>>103818450
For what? 5 seconds of background noise?

>>103817125
I literally can’t understand the Japanese

>>103830925
Why are you excusing noise at what's supposed to be a top of the industry live show?

>Kiara has been vocal about being anti AI garbage
>Inanus is literally an accomplished artist part-time chuuba
Looks like an humiliation ritual took place here.

Wait weren’t some members of hololive RAGING bitches against AI and the use of it by anyone? Can anyone remind me who they were because i thought Kiara at one point hated AI? Oh wait! Iopi hates AI now that i remember LOL

>>103830979
I just can't put effort into caring about this specific thing.

>>103831094
So you would absolutely love it if there was 10 seconds of loud white noise in the audio track in the middle of a song.

>>103831061
They don't want AI art to be marked with twitter hashtag.

>>103817100 (OP)
>have all the money to hire artists
>have a lot of talented artists within the company, and know many outside
>still use AI sloppa
>don't even bother touching it up so the hiragana looks like actual fucking hiragana
The last part is the worst for me. I can deal with AIslop, just put a modicum of fucking effort and fix the many errors it will output. Imagine how fucking low rent this would be in English. A bunch of WeCLmo and THNK Ỷ̵̧̗̠̙̜͈͍͎̀͊͋̽̊̇͗́͒̔̃̕̕U̸̢͓̯̭̜͚͍̫̪̮̹͙̎͐̉̆̌͜Ǫ̵̧̡̼̰̗̦͉̗̼̯̬̀́͌̕ banners for the billion dollar company.

>>103831115
Those things are not the same though.

>>103831393
Yes they are.

>>103830592
I can't draw at all, I just don't like it when ai art is so obviously ai. A human being comprehends language and wouldn't make my brain try to decipher retarded machine hallucinations of language.

>>103831461
You're obviously a tranny furry artist.

>>103831341
Banger arart

Someone explain why I should be mad about AI

>>103817100 (OP)
Genuine, sincere and honest recession indicator.

>>103831406
The choreography and songs are the main events and are on the foreground, while the images are on the background

>>103831649
And? You're saying that something being half-assed is actually totally ok in a top of the industry production.

>>103831607
It's stealing job from artists

>>103831607
You shouldn’t, only troons and leftoids hate AI

>>103831679
Good, artists are lefty pussies.

>>103831341
This. Do the ends justify the means when the ends turn out looking like literal dogshit smeared on pavement?

>>103831679
That's a good thing.

>>103831686
So true, this is why I can't wait for Cover to replace all the Hololive talents with AI

>>103831785
this but unironically

>>103822784
Running PR for the Basilisk

>>103831785
They're a publicly traded company. They'd do just that if they thought it would be profitable.

>>103832083
Considering the number of views Neuro is racking up, I wouldn't be surprised if Cover is already working on AI vtubers in the background.

>>103831679
artists are using ai to steal jobs from other artists

>>103831679
Wait til you realize they're stealing the humanity from regular human beings as well, my little zoomoid. Watch some GitS:SaC, read I have No Mouth and I Must Scream

>>103832711
You should watch my sack too, lmao

>>103830108
You just suck, mate.

>>103818441
The limitations of AI are inconsequential. AI is not the real taking over because it's even good, but because it's being pushed by a cartel of multi-billionaire tech corporatocrats, bugs and all. e.g. literally every single buggy, faulty and unoptimized OS, browser, app, website, etc. that's used en masse right now. One day, they'll start deploying things like AI surgeons that will result in the deaths of thousands, or even millions, and no one will be able to do anything about it. Hell, politicians are already using AI to decide how the economy should be run.

>>103833269
>AI surgeons that will result in the deaths of thousands, or even millions, and no one will be able to do anything about it
This is hysteria and shizoid delusion, please take your meds.

>>103831999
the anecdote about the basilisk is so fucking funny. it shows how even the most fedoracore atheists can and will be as religious as christfags

>>103817272
>you could have paid me to use AI in secret instead of just openly using AI yourself.

>>103832144
Plenty of people have tried to make their own AI vtubers and it doesn't work because Neuro is made from Vedal's own particular sense of humor and has latency times that no one has yet to beat.

>>103832949
Sure, is that why even streamers like asmongold dropped it after the first boss for being too hard? I've beaten most souls games because they're balanced and you can kill the bosses with strategies like spells and summons instead of relying on muscle memory from hundreds of brainless repetitions. I could've beaten sekiro too if I wanted to, I just don't feel like wasting my time repeating the same shitty boss over and over again

>>103832788
Present it. For real, though....buncha you zoomers should watch/read up on some of that shit. It's gonna get waaaay worse, real soon lmao

>>103831999
Of course, he's going to make me immortal.
>>103833359
To be fair not all people that believe that scenario are that level of retarded.
There's a lot of religious people heavy in to that whole idea, the singularity and so on.
Scam Altman being one of them.
In fact he is actively trying to accelerate AI chaos to push his shitty eyeball scanning thing as "proof of identity" and pump his shitty worldcoin garbage. Some countries already banned him kek

>>103817317
>>103817100 (OP)
What a PR failure. Just generate something without text, noone could prove it's AI then.

>>103817125
Totally not AI bro

>>103833729
What, you never heard of Hollywoid before?

>>103817100 (OP)
LMAO this is pretty fucking funny. Worst part they probably used some shitty out of date AI, most latest models can render text fine.

>>103833729
tbf it makes sense they wouldn't actually say "Hollywood" because the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce is pretty litigious and will sue for commercial use well outside of the bounds that their trademark covers and will force companies to a settlement demand through extending it as long as they can with appeals

>>103817125
lol it's definitely slop, look at that fucked up text

>>103817272
Artists need to be humbled desu

>>103833953
Cover should start using AI to make their own L2D models, that way the girls can have new outfits for practically every stream

>>103832711
I wouldn't worry current method of how AI is done is pretty much a dead end (I say that as someone who likes this shit). Unless some new breakthrough happens, which I doubt with the current understanding.

>>103833941
NTA but, is it supposed to English or a different language? If it's English, definitely, otherwise AI generators do not produce foreign writing right now.

>>103834210
4o and qwen can do foreign writing pretty great. Though that background does have a lot of text so not sure it can do to that extent.

>>103834210
I just generated this slop so it can clearly attempt to
I don't know why you think they couldn't, it's just forcing machines to pattern maxx basically so if you tell it to give generate a foreign location it'll try replicate the pattern of foreign text in that location, to a fucked up result because it typically doesn't actually understand the meaning of the letters, mashing them all together to try create something original

>>103834689
Last time I generated an image was back in 2022, it couldn't do text even to a fucked up extent.
>>103834369
Definitely makes sense.

>>103817730
actual artists are the reason you have your retarded anime filter waifus

Hololive uses AI constantly and no one bats an eye
Every other vtuber corpo uses AI and people lose their minds

>>103835136
>Last time I generated an image was back in 2022
things have advanced a lot since then, it used to produce very dreamlike/nightmarish shit, it's gotten better/more realistic (still fucks up the small details), just two years ago I was laughing my ass off the utter absurdity of these AI will smith eating spaghetti videos but now they can do it pretty convincingly

>>103829576
It takes a shockingly narrow mind to not realize how much actual artists have contributed to the human experience, not to mention that your precious yellow-tinged 6-fingered AI art wouldn't exist in the first place without them. I bet you're really happy though. I envy the retarded.

>>103835504
We have a bit of a saying here on /vt/:
It's fine when Hololive does it.

>>103835889
That's a literal holoanti rallying cry.

>>103827007
>>103827246
>>103829396
Japan has already updated their copyright law to include AI training as fair use.

>>103817100 (OP)
i dont give a shit about the ethical debate or paying artists or whatever. But there is no way I can justify spending money on AI generated shit

>>103817100 (OP)
>the artist is shaking her ass in front of the audience so they have to use AI to create art
lmao

>>103833512
>he watches assmoncrap
Neck yourself immediately

>>103833512
>filtered by Chained Ogre
>watches Asmongold
Captcha related

>some random background
We did it bros... we finally got hololive! Wait why are you laughing! Hololive is over now because of some random background!!!

>>103831341
Did you forget how the government had to force cover to pay artists?

>>103836458
You first trannoid

>>103817730
They can join us CS majors in working at McDonald's. I'll put the fries in the bag for you, sir.

>>103836936
thats how it always starts "its just a random thing x" Question is where it ends. And use of AI should be disclosed.

>>103817100 (OP)
Based Hololive, trannies stay mad

>>103837686
Let me guess, being against AI is woke now? When did this happen? When did shitty slop become related to gender identities?

>>103837847
Seethe woketard

>>103837847
Literally only trannies on xitter are against AI. Nobody else gives a shit

>>103837329
Wasn’t that just a policy change in Japan, also didn’t artists come out and say that they were being paid?

Good. Only pearl-clutching tranny and tranny adjacent social warriors dislike AI

>>103838013
Which one of those are all the holos who don't like AI? I expect you to anti all of them.

>>103835458
So?

>>103837904
>>103837925
>>103838013
Painful samefagging

>>103838046
I forget which whore it was, but one of them whined about AI in her twitter. I think Nimi hates it too but you don't need further excuses to anti that one.

>>103817100 (OP)
nobody gives a shit about the background, try again when the girls have 6 weird fingers that fuse into each other

The faggots that cry about AI would be the same losers who had a job as a carriage driver right before the automobile got popular. Get with the times, stop trying to halt progress.

>>103838248
Progress isn't consuming dogshit regurgitated slop instead of art made by people. Most of you are chudbrained philistines

>>103831670
not him, but yea, people have different priorities.
If your priority is on the background, then that's on you.
I don't care if my doctor can't speak nigger language

Can't wait for Holofags to defend this shit "oh it was outsourced to another company" Doesn't matter, looks even worse when AI shit is being done alongside an actual artist with Ina

>>103838248
Under capitalism, being a Luddite is completely rational, as technological progress actively makes life worse for vast majority of people.

The only recourse is unionizing and making, not demanding, technological progress actively benefit all the people. When was the last time labour-saving automation was used to reduce average working hours?

This is, of course, literal torture for Westerners, as it goes against liberal idea of individualism, and they'd rather adopt Social Darwinism, instead.

>>103838248
I'd imagine cartmen would have evolved into taxi drivers

>>103838848
Jobs evolve into other jobs, that has never been a mystery to people who protest these developments...but the people who specialized in the original job get dustbinned and new people take on the new jobs.

>>103838450
>Under capitalism... technological progress actively makes life worse for vast majority of people
This is not true. Technological progress makes life worse for the people who lose their jobs to automation while benefiting everyone else. Eventually society adjusts and new industry provides new jobs.
>When was the last time labour-saving automation was used to reduce average working hours?
Automation increases productive capacity. Let's assign 100 units to an industry. Then let's say automation increases the units to 200. You could then cut work hours in half to bring it back down to 100, but by that logic you could cut work hours in half without the automation boost and bring it down to 50. It's a matter of supply and demand.

>>103840139
>Eventually society adjusts
Yeah, about that. How's that working out with student loans, rent costs, child-rearing costs and birthrates?

>>103817100 (OP)
Ai is the future. stop being a reddit faggot

>>103840370
All things AI can circumvent

>>103840463
>AI will fix all social problems caused by capitalism
What is this? The next "blockchain"? How many times you Silicon Valley lib techbros need to be taught this lesson?

>>103836034
and the Yomiuri Shimbun lawsuit is already killing it

>>103840370
>student loans
Have you tried not taking a loan when you don't know for a fact you'll be able to pay it back

>>103840370
>How's that working out with student loans
Pretty well, people are starting to realize that not everyone should go to college and that tradesmen and menial laborers are necessary for society.
>rent costs
Would be fixed with reduced zoning regulations.
>child-rearing costs
Like what specifically?
>birthrates
The collapsing birthrate is almost entirely due to a decline in accidental pregnancies. Natural selection will correct it.

>>103840927
Nah, the only reason that case has any chance at all is because they're suing an American company. AI training is locked in as fair use in Japan.

>>103830698
Is there a single holo mama that isn't in the Anti-AI group? A lot of them attended the government conference.
And that's proceeding pretty badly for the AI supporters, they're currently going forward with requiring AI art to bear an identifying mark if its a commercial product, but it will be held up in court for a while at least.

>>103825840
I do go outside and do things. Vtubers and /vt/ are my dedicated slopzone. It's where I go when I want to turn my brain off. You're my company when I'm stupid.

>>103833512
>relying on muscle memory from hundreds of brainless repetitions. I could've beaten sekiro too if I wanted to, I just don't feel like wasting my time repeating the same shitty boss over and over again
Have you tried using your brain?

>>103835458
I don't made background as my waifu.

>>103838013
True

>>103838377
Yeah man nobody cares about some stupid shit like backgrounds. They should just get rid of them completely because us reasonable people do not even look at them.

>>103817100 (OP)
Huh, the replies on Twitter actually shit on this instead of "Holovie can't do nothing wrong".
The thread is grim though.

>>103845064
Yeah, that's why he stopped playing those trash games

>>103817100 (OP)
Nothing happened to suisei when she used AI in one of her MVs
Nothing happened to Pekora when she used AI during one of the Gen3 concerts
And guess what? Nothing is going to happen to HoloEN. And it's so funny that it's been 24 hours and that tweet only managed to get 7k likes with a lot of replies saying "who cares"

>>103817100 (OP)
holy shit those gibberish kana

>>103838146
Already happened last time and you’re still sucking Yagoo’s cock

And?
Why spending when AI makes it for free and faster?
The only issue I see is that they should have checked the text before using it.
A bit lazy, but nothing new nor problematic.
Who cares.

>>103842315
It's like trying to stop people from using trains and cars demanding them to keep using horses.
Large scale use of AI will happen, like it or not. Whoever puts restrictions on it will only be left behind by other countries.

>>103840600
It won't.
Still, capitalism is the least pernicious economic system none the less. All the alternatives are still far worse.
AI is simply inevitable period.
So, any discussion about it is pointless.

>>103857520
>All the alternatives are still far worse
No they're all infinitely better, they're just made impossible by capitalism. Capitalism is an industrial positive feedback loop that has instrumentalized and possessed us as agents of its growth, i.e it's a parasite. It beats every other human economic ideology because it is better than us, it beats us at every single game we play. We invented a system so powerful that it enslaved us.
It's not that the alternatives are worse, it's that the alternatives are impossible. They get eaten and integrated and sold back to us. We have no choice. Capitalism is a cognitohazard that we dreamed up and unleashed upon ourselves, a memetic bug that has taken over humanity. Once we help it automate itself, it won't need us anymore, and we'll be discarded/disposed of. It will travel the stars, not us.

>>103817100 (OP)
Holoslop

>>103857520
there are likely better alternatives the only issue is those alternatives would require a completely new system as currently we only really have 2, capitalism and communism. i'm partial to a sort of mix of both plus a bit more since pure capitalism completely falls apart once menial labor jobs do actually start fully disappearing. cant have a society run on a system that requires people to make money if 90% of the population just isnt

Holocucks really be defending the use of AI because their glorified corpo used it twice uh.

>>103857847
This, but it's a good thing.

AI > Iofi arts

>>103858578
Based

People in here just live in their own echo bubble where All For One was an abject failure huh?

>>103858578
Why not just skip all those steps and kill yourself? It's basically the same. Better than the annihilation of human consciousness and the planet that gave rise to it. If you want to embrace the death drive so badly, I am earnestly suggesting you blow your own brains out.

>>103858578
I believe that man was created in God's image, not capitalism.

>>103858893
Nah, I want to actively do my part to usher in the ultra-capitalist AI and watch meatbags become obsolete.

>>103858928
God isn't real. Or if He is then he loves capitalism and only created humans so that we could create capitalism.

>>103858929
Irony is a method through which such a thing produces itself.

>>103858952
Based capitalism is the way

>>103858953
I'm not joking

>>103858929
Holy based, only niggers are scared of this which is inevitable

>>103858952
>God loves the Tower of Babel

>>103858784
No, but the concert being successful doesn't mean it wasn't morally wrong

>>103858975
I am, I literally made all of that shit up

>>103859005
No you didn't.
>In socio-historical terms, the line of deterritorialization corresponds to uncompensated capitalism. The basic - and, of course, to some real highly consequential degree actually installed - schema is a positive feedback circuit, within which commercialization and industrialization mutually excite each other in a runaway process, from which modernity draws its gradient. Karl Marx and Friedrich Nietzsche were among those to capture important aspects of the trend. As the circuit is incrementally closed, or intensified, it exhibits ever greater autonomy, or automation. It becomes more tightly auto productive (which is only what 'positive feedback' already says). Because it appeals to nothing beyond itself, it is inherently nihilistic. It has no conceivable meaning beside self-amplification. It grows in order to grow. Mankind is its temporary host, not its master. Its only purpose is itself.
- Nick Land

And I unironically think this is good.

>>103859560
You got me, I was bastardizing Land. But I was still joking.
>I think this is good
Elaborate. I'm very interested in Land even though I don't really agree with him. What do you think of your enjoyment, in general?

>>103817100 (OP)
It's hard to care about this because the alternative is just some img barn slop that also means an artist isn't being paid soooo

Based. Hololive trampling Ina's beliefs and pride as an artist just because she acted out and aired Bad PR to holo regarding her Visa. Japs are always superior to gooks and they don't take kindly to one getting uppity. Their message is that artists are a thing of the past and are easily replaceable.

>>103817125
Fpbp