Thread 103832075

So who was in the wrong here?

she has less hours streamed than ina this year

These are the same faggots who will cry when my borgar wife decides to graduate because she feels unappreciated

>>103832075 (OP)
Cover

>>103832093
Nerissa is one of covers golden girls who they want to use for literally everything so she atleast has that excuse, Ina is just a lazy whore.

>>103832075 (OP)
nerissa

>>103832075 (OP)
why do these guys care so much? larping as her business manager / boyfriend kek

>>103832075 (OP)
>>103832237
>fangirls over Kiara to the point of getting to have sex with her
>they stop talking
>tries to switch over to Marine, her other oshi, and harasses her
>Marine is audibly and visibly uncomfortable
>preaches how hololive is an 'idol company' in her debut
>this very idol company stresses her to the bone to the point where her already lowering streaming hours and interactivity with her dedicated audience becomes non-existent, spawning vocal 'disgruntled' individuals in said fanbase
Hololive kills hopes and dreams (for those who can't handle it)

>>103832075 (OP)
>So who was in the wrong here?
anybody that read this and cared about it

Nerissa. Both because she doesn't communicate and because she should have prevented the massive number of negative fans she has.

>>103832075 (OP)
where is this even from? YT comments?

Myron's parents, for naming him that way. Dude never had a chance in life lmao.

>>103832075 (OP)
They all were? The fan shouldn’t have said that in her live chat and she needs to market herself more, it’s an important part of her job.

>>103832075 (OP)
Nerissa for getting one guy'd

>>103832075 (OP)
Nerissa for being friends with horrible people like Shiori and ERB

>>103832373
>muh golden gen
adventfags were a mistake.

brown "people"

>>103832800
it's like every single EN gen, only 1 or 2 of them are anywhere near decent. The rest of them are mistakes

>>103832596
From her free chat yesterday

>>103832093
>she has less hours streamed than ina this year
Okay, but when fans openly complain about that in chat it only makes the talent feel like garbage. The recent graduations were demoralizing for the EN branch and Nerissa can't say that to viewers because it would get her on the wrong side of management. This will be another year of fake smiles when a lot of them will have to act like everything is okay when they really have concerns about the direction of Hololive.

>>103832237
>Cover
They definitely make the Hololive situation more stressful for talents by keeping all the contract disputes a complete secret. The NDA maintains the idol waifu illusion but it means that graduations are often sudden and that fans don't have a clear idea of what is going on behind the scenes. The graduation wave also made fans more cynical.

>>103832075 (OP)
Fans are allowed to voice their opinions

>>103833069
God that wave of graduations was dreadfully awful. I sincerely hope we’re free of any more for 1.5 years at the least, but trusting Cover these days is hard.

>>103832755
Retard

>>103833077
Doing that in your Oshis public chat is shitty though

Someone has to be the worst at communicating with their fans and making them happy, and unfortunately the easy scapegoats have left the company.

>>103832075 (OP)
not this lazy white whore, that's for sure

>>103833284
where else? /here/? twatter? some sekrit discord? or a doxxsite?
kill yourself

>>103832075 (OP)
do these bitches think we are fucking stupid? It takes a couple hundred bucks and an hour to set up a pc anywhere, at any time. "I don't have a pc for months, sorry lol" Are you fucking kidding me? Lazy whore, she is so butthurt at being called out. How long you think before she graduates? Over/under 6 months?

>>103833410
You shouldn't fucking say it where she will most definitely see it especially the day of her concert. Are you retarded

>>103833580
Hi Myron please kill yourself

>>103833580
reminder that moona made a setup inside her car, in the middle of the third world, during the pandemic to stream

>>103832075 (OP)
nerissa

>>103832075 (OP)
vtubers should learn to balance working behind the scenes to create a good product like a concert and maintaining a presence through streaming.
I've seen this kind of feeling among fans of small corpos that are "hololarping" too like v4mirai (they had the tact not to complain directly to their oshis tho).

>>103832800
stupid fucking nigger I'm not talking about Advent. Calli, ERB and Nerissa are their golden girls because they can actually sing.

Post is getting out of hand gonna delete it but irregardless,

Be good to your oshi.

>>103833666
is not the same retard
moona is not a conceited and entitled middle upper class white girl

>>103832237
third post best post.

>>103833666
>>103833580
that's what I dont understand. How can they possibly think that's a good excuse. Uh I've only got my phone, sorry I can't do anything. Really nigga?

Nerissa undoubtedly, doing a one hour zatsu or so takes nothing and yet she chooses to not even do that, not even some fucking twitter space.

>>103833755
This ain't reddit little bitch, grow a set.

>>103833750
too bad IRyS mogs all of those skanks at singing AND gaming, your argument is automatically invalid.

Yeah that shit is scary how viral it got and i was like "shit ollie will see this and i need to quell this now"

>>103833816
She literally did one last night you retard

>>103832075 (OP)
to be fair to nerissa, this kind of follows along with what kanata was talking about. they can't talk to literally anyone about anything. you have a project? can't talk to other talents about it, or your fans. having an issue? doesn't matter, talk to us or no one at all.

on the other hand, i get that being frustrated when your oshi doesn't livestream. we've been told over and over that cover doesn't force overwhelming homework and projects onto them, so her not having me to do so is either her burying herself under projects or... being lazy.

or, you know, they're being told to fib about all that or lose their jobs.

>>103833834
ollie?

>>103832075 (OP)
I didn't save it but the last time you posted this bait someone proved that YOU were in the wrong here.
The full, unedited chat is very civil and reaches a nice conclusion where everyone is happy.

>>103833870
@clips_karl87054

>>103832075 (OP)
nerissa is an AI generated white woman, it's the guys fault for expecting anything to begin with

>>103833666
>fucking satan watches moona

I always suspected that Soominpark was a bit otherworldly

>>103833831
Irys can only sing in Japanese so there's no need to compare her to the golden trio.

>>103832075 (OP)
If you're a jailbird you should already be expecting that kind of answer from her

>>103832075 (OP)
I doubt this is real

>>103833410
There no centralized site in the style of nyfco anymore, info is all over the place

At the end of the day, it's just better to throw your hands up and walk away if they aren't providing the content you want. They make enough money to not care if they lose you and you won't change their mind on anything, only make them less willing and more resentful. Money speaks, and if you're not the only one walking away because of a change in their content, they'll feel it sooner or later.

>>103834151
troglodyte. philistine. Maybe do your reps, she has plenty of english songs

>>103834180
Oh it's real

>>103832075 (OP)
Should I try to watch nerissa or shirori or gigi i just like hearing women talk at me with nice voices

>>103834440
Shiori is fun if you just want to hear a woman yap about whatever comes out of her autistic mouth. She's cute.
Gigi, if you like her voice, can have very energetic moments but is usually pretty quite during gameplay outside of occasional yelling.

>>103834358
I didn't say she DOESNT sing in English. she's just not as good as the trio at it, she's better in japanese best japanese singer they have

>>103833410
Any vtuber knows that /vt/ will have blunt criticism but generally they don't expect fans to openly complain in their own chat. I think there are various reasons for the radio silence but in 2025 it will obviously cause more concern.

>>103834433
Of course it's real and there was even a thread on the Hololive subreddit about this that was quickly locked.

>>103834440
>nice voices
>GG
What? Go for CC man

>>103834514
ahh...well I apologize, didnt want you besmirching my queen. But her english singing is underestimated, its not *her* its the dogshit paint by numbers boring songs they write for her. No one could make them sound interesting.

>>103834556
not everyone likes ze kraut accent, YAH?

>>103832075 (OP)
contrary to what the twitter retards will say, nobody is wrong here. its called criticism from fans, you know, people that actually want to watch streams and dont just tweet bullshit

>>103834586
I agree with that

>>103834617
I see. You want an American accent. Nerissa is the best choice then

>>103832075 (OP)
Why doesn't she have a laptop? How does she do work on the go?

>>103834824
nah, we need a scot, or a british accent that isn't attached to a raging SJW whore

>>103832075 (OP)
BETAS

>>103834617
>French mother
>British media
>Lived in Norway for years
CC is the least kraut sounding in all of Deutschland.

>>103835083
CC do be cute

>>103835083
maybe you're just biased, she sounds like she's choking on bratwurst constantly. Thank god for Raora, or CC would have the worst voice in all of hololive.

>>103835275
hey buddy you better shut your fucking mouth, CC is a fucking treasure.

>>103835302
on what planet? her voice doesnt match the model at all. you expect a gentle violet evergarden and get some obscene mangled ESL garbage

>>103835379
oh you're just baiting got it.

>>103835404
I'm honestly not. I really wanted to like her when her model was revealed, but her voice just does not match. There's too much of a disconnect for me to enjoy watching her. Slight exaggeration, but no bait. She seems like a nice girl, but her voice is not.

>>103834440
>nice voices
Watch Nerissa then

>>103835462
I'm sorry that your ears are broken in that case anon, she's super cute and unironically is actually the hardest working member for streaming.

>>103833618
the point of voicing a complain is for it to be seen so something can change are you fucking retarded ?

>>103832075 (OP)
both sides are and handled it terribly

>>103832075 (OP)
The fat brown third worlder by the looks of it.

At the end of the day she's streamed the least of any Hololive member and no amount of narrative creating will change that statistical fact.

>>103836001
Facts, myron

>>103833666
how do you think they won nam

>>103832075 (OP)
she can't talk too much about the reasons

>>103835083
and i thank god everyday for that

>>103836113
>thirdies getting brain broken by the concept of NDAs

>>103836113
Other than obvious protection from outside factors, this probably helps in the case if there's people that don't get along or prefer not to be bothered.
All these statements make her seem so naive and incompetent

>>103835083
where does she live now?

>>103836113
blame mel and her retardry for that
why the fuck did kotoka have the need to fucking speak I won't ever understand, fucking jp autismo

>>103832093
fewer*, retard

Be ashamed that you're not paying enough and not sending feedback, so we can't build a recording studio in North America. Cover doesn't need to own it; a third-party company can simply operate another facility that anyone can use.

>>103836728
She says Immerheim as in Germany, but I can't remember when she moved back again. She moved to Norway early on, then went back to Germany in 2022 I think. Then moved back to Norway again, and is now aparently back in Germany.
Or she could still be living in Norway and is just saying that for opsec. Who knows honestly.

>>103834440
If only Nerissa streamed

Holomems get so much money that they start to aim for idoleness.

>>103837103
that'd still require most of them to fly to a specific location to record, unless you're suggesting they all setup shop in the same US city, which comes with its own host of problems

>>103832075 (OP)
It seems she's making more appearances as a guest on official programs, but if she's staying for a long time, she should get a PC locally. Being in a half-hearted state is the worst.

>>103833750
>Mori
>Singing
when did this meme start?

poor irys...

>>103837321
she had a laptop for streaming last year, but gave it away to someone and never replaced it.

A devout FFVII fan, she's grown tired of the ongoing war between FFfag and E33fag here. As a result, she's plotting to follow in Biboo's footsteps, despite Biboo being an E33freak herself...

>>103837322
Dude, watch her 2nd LIfe, faggots like you probably haven't heard her in years.
She isn't the best in EN but she has the power in her voice and improved a fucking lot since, hurr durr fuck fuck rap Mori

>>103837442
>Life
She got way better, yes, I agree, then got worse again because she fell for some meme whispery singing that sounds like shit, but still better than when she started, but
>isn't the best in EN
that's literally what is being said. She isn't even close and doesn't belong in that discussion. She's much better than she was and much better than she needed to be for a rapper, and I enjoy her karaoke a lot, still not a top 3 singer in Hololive no matter the way you're measuring it.
Maybe if Hololive did more rap songs then it would make sense, need a rapper after all, so she's one of the 3 golden girls. But they don't even make rap songs for their designated rap group, Flowglow.

>>103837432
kek
Would that person, who hardly plays games, really have that much passion for them?
Working in another country isn't as simple as just feeling like it

is this a pick me moment

>>103832075 (OP)
>So who was in the wrong here?
Real question is, who honestly cares at this point?

While the complaint itself isn't wrong, the timing and location made it counterproductive...

>>103837484
honestly? You are much more reasonable than I thought, so let me say this, if IRyS wouldn't fall back on her hamster voice so much, I would take her over Mori but as it stands she is the only powerhouse that can keep up with the other two actual singing talents.

>>103832075 (OP)
Nerissa for replying

>>103835083
Her accent has been stronger in offcollabs
She cutesys her voice up a bit when solo streaming

>>103835379
voice not matching the model is arguably a gap factor

>>103832075 (OP)
Meh after seeing how Gura treated her fans for 4 years, this is nothing. But it is a worrying sign that she's becoming lazy and needs to be whipped into shape or else she should get the boot

>>103837707
She can't, at all. You're genuinely delusional. I don't even like IRyS' singing much either, I think Bae is much better if we're going with Promise.

>>103838139
Bae would be my solid 5 of the bunch, so I'm glad to see someone acknowledge her, anyway, show is starting

>>103837918
True

>>103838139
you are deaf

>>103838139
wow lmao

>>103832075 (OP)
one guyed the thread

>>103832075 (OP)
I don't watch or care much about Nerissa but it was clearly the retard in chat.

>>103836280
to be fair she is a woman, it comes with the territory.

Nerissa for being a lazy bitch

>>103833750
>Calli
Gura's way better

Myron did nothing wrong.

>>103832075 (OP)
So she can spend hours every day interacting with twitter lesbians but streaming for her fans is too much work?

>>103843586
She has to wear a mask in front of fans. Masks are exhausting.

>>103832075 (OP)
Dont worry she will stream soon(tm) in a mandated collab! Be excited!

>>103832075 (OP)
He has a point, it's pretty horrible marketing to shadow drop your big 3D musical on Twitter (and then immediately bury it with Bloodraven shit), also making it a premiere was extra stupid (because premieres have absolutely garbage audio)

>>103846962
Don't worry lads, she's gonna rape ERB on said mandated collab!

>>103832093
What the fuck is inas excuse

>>103847663
Ina has another job

>>103832075 (OP)
His for posting that in her chat and not here where it belongs

>>103832075 (OP)
Nerissa for creating an environment that made faggots like this guy feel like it was safe to be a faggot in chat. A faggot will always be a faggot. That's just in their faggoty nature, you can't fault them too much, they don't know any other way then being a faggot. But Nerissa is too weak willed to wrangle these faggots up when they act up.
I gave Ame a lot of shit in the past, but one of her few qualities was curating faggots out of her chat.

>>103832075 (OP)
lmao what a little bitch, Gura would never. These whores can't even ghost their audiences properly

>>103832237
If /vt/ reflects the norm then it is Nerissa's fault for not informing her fans and should be taking extra responsibility for the fans she has created including the passive aggressive ones.

>>103832075 (OP)
That's the most women codded complaining I've ever seen. She must be doing something right to get this kind of hate.