Thread 103899642

Did Coco’s sacrifice mean nothing? Hololive literally axed their CN branch and completely cut ties with the country to keep Coco, who only ended up leaving anyway, but the effect still lingers on. More and more members seem to be moving back into entering the CN market, is it finally time for Hololive to return to China officially or is the damage permanent

Holodrones always have a cope ready, the usual one is that China is "desperate for money" and "crawling back to them" and somehow that magically makes it ok for Hololive to be Chinese again. They don't seem to realize what a huge admission of defeat it is for Hololive to come back to China after all that, or if they do, they don't care because that would mean they'd have to admit Hololive did something wrong. So they've always got an excuse in the chamber.

>>103899642 (OP)
>Coco’s sacrifice
Coco didn't sacrifice for anything. Hololive only pulled out because chinks couldn't stop being assblasted.
Now they're begging hololive to return.

>>103899692
>"crawling back to them"
Thats accurate. Cope.

>>103899642 (OP)
Disgusting. Why doesn't the JP fanbase react to this?

I don't care but I need more info on Okayu playing with Nene's nipples

>>103899642 (OP)
And like that Nene is dropped

>>103899642 (OP)
BETRAYAL
Dishonor on you! Dishonor on your cow!

>>103899642 (OP)
>I got caught by Okayu-senpai playing with my nipples
Huh?

>>103899692
Yeah I also severely doubt that China is crawling back to Cover begging them to return, it’s much more likely that Cover is steadily returning by just doing Bilibili streams for now to gauge interest and then maybe start officially doing more Chinese related stuff to see how JP and EN fans react. Cause another facet was that the EN branch had pretty much just debuted at the time, so Cover also did not want the CN drama to overshadow the new branch. It’s just kind of the sad reality that it’s gonna happen, especially after going public, but there’s just not much more market availability besides going back to China. Which sure if that means cool collabs again like they used to have, compared to now where they usually just get no-name gacha collaborations, and perms for CN games too then that might be fine honestly

>>103899701
China ain’t begging for shit lmao, Cover needs them more than China needs them

>>103899820
>I also severely doubt that China is crawling back to Cover begging them to return
Bilibili is definitely begging

>>103899692
China want Holo again even after they said Taiwan, you faggots should cope indeed. Seethe more.

>>103899728
Because it hasn’t really been done in a massive/official move yet, just some members streaming on Bili

>>103899642 (OP)
>a chinese website that using nickname from japanese anime character
>forbidden to upload political content
>getting caught renting server in taiwan
who back to who again now ?

>>103899879
And yet chinks threw a huge tantrum and promised hololive can't come back.
And what do we see? Its not like hololive ever wanted to leave.
Yeah, chinks are literally crawling right now.

>>103899879
China dont forget and forgive saying Taiwan is country, yeT they magically allow Holo back. Cope faggot.

>>103899886
Why would they? It’s not like Hololive regularly streamed on the website even back in the day, it was mainly just Aqua that had a large presence there

>>103899879
>NOOOIOOO you can't say this other country's name its great dishonorobu on china
>feelings of the chinese people!!
>O-okay m-maybe come stream sometimes Hololive...
Cope you little cucks bend the knee.

Dunno what this "china" is supposed to be but the west Taiwan is desperate to have hololive back.

>>103899934
>>103899939
Cope Holokeks, chinks never forget and would only allow this if the company was crawling back and apologizing. Did people really forget that Cover publicly abided by the 1 China policy when the shitstorm happened? They are absolutely kissing ass to China trying to return because the EN market is failing with 1/3 of the branch gone and many of them being complete runts

>>103899642 (OP)
You got it backwards.
It's Cover who sacrificed Coco for this exact moment.

>>103899728
Only redditfags cared about coco

Lmao holodrones can't actually believe they're bigger than bilibili holy shit what am I reading

>>103900031
>chinks never forget
Seems like they forgot pretty fucking fast since Holos are playing hoyo games again lmao
>Cover publicly abided by the 1 China policy
Everyone does. That makes west taiwans little wannabe net soldiers little tantrums even more pathetic.

>>103899642 (OP)
>Coco’s sacrifice
intentionally trying to anger the Chinese people was such a huge sacrifice, thank you for your service reddit dragon

>>103899942
The less reasons Chinese people have to use outside software, the happier the Chinese government is.

>>103899642 (OP)
Ok ignoring the bait from the China shit, why is Hololive full of sexpests? Literally hear all the time about them groping each other and kissing sexually harassing etc. let me guess “it’s ok when Hololive does it.” Wow nice defense there, if it was any other company they’d be having google docs out the ass. Company filled with literal sexpests, even in management

>>103900031
>chinks never forget
No, but they bend over really easy

>>103899692
Holocucks REALLY think a company hundreds of times bigger than cover corp is begging them to come back, that's genuinely hilarious

>>103899642 (OP)
Companies that bend the knee to China in order to do business with them are traitorous spies and should be liquidated and their leadership imprisoned.
This concept that you can betray your country for money and send enemy states wealth and technology is psychotic anarchocapitalism that destroys nations from within.

>>103899642 (OP)
Nenechi got a Chinese outfit and is streaming Genshin on bilibili. Does anyone still think Hololive hasn't returned to the Chinese market? The only question is how long it will take before management twists arms and convinces a few of the girls in HoloEN to stream on bilibili.

>>103899642 (OP)
they are abandoning EN market for CN. I guess they we JP after all, tehy can't help it.

>>103900070
>>103900112
It’s the same thing with people thinking Hololive is still king in Japan, when Niji JP has always been way more popular. Even the EN and ID branches aren’t super popular either, cause indies still reign supreme for EN and ID has their own massively popular vtubers as well.

>>103900112
Ricecel cope

>>103900124
Welcome to capitalism, where morals and loyalty are thrown out the window for the bottom line. Bring back Cold War red scare hysteria

Reminder that 100% of chinese culture and folklore is stolen from Japan lol.

>>103900112
Yeah because bili is bleeding money and needs something that attracts a lot of chinese viewers.
The drive against hololive was a minority of assmad retards and spineless companies like bilibili.
Now these companies figure its save again, so they ask for hololive to advertise them again.

>>103899692
More like Americans are coping. Tariffs will lead everyone into the arms of China. Say thank you Comrade Trump

>>103900172
>when Niji JP has always been way more popular
nijiseethe

>>103900136
I think EN will be harder to convince cause they pretty much have every shade of Asian in EN now, with Bae being really the only Chinese speaker and she doesn’t seem to care to pander towards that crowd which is a weird occurrence among non-Jap Asians in Hololive where they practically hide their true identity by never speaking their original language

>>103899879
Do chinese people even understand japanese or are they just like western weebs?

>>103899642 (OP)
Coco meant nothing just look at her now

Her 100 year plan continues to unfold

>>103900149
I think this is the case too, Cover wanted to see originally if the EN market was worth abandoning China for but that seems to have not worked out given the absolute state of the EN branch. And I doubt China will ever want to associate with EN anyway cause of the rabid faggot shit that some of the girls push

>>103900204
I mean the communism thing isn't even particularly relevant we don't need to treat Cuba or Vietnam that way.
It is that China is openly hostile towards the US, Japan, and several of their allies economically, militarily, and culturally.

>>103900217
Uh other way around bud, Japan literally stole religion/rice/culture etc from China

>>103900330
Except now US is openly hostile to everyone. A new realignment in the world order is happening

>>103900217
wait I thought it was the opposite

>>103900269
EN is going to be way easier since their audience are mostly Asian immigrants to the US and Canada. Plus with the loss of most of their white Amerincan talents and GG also being Chinese, there won't be any problems. I am actually more surprised Mori or Kiara hasn't tried streaming on Bug2

>>103900265
Who the fuck cares about Forbes in the big 2025? Suisei might as well not even be in Hololive at this point, her association is largely just herself

>>103900273
They'd just still have liveTL unlike us

>>103900124
>should be liquidated and their leadership imprisoned.
The US would literally crumble over night

>>103900303
Is Gigi Chinese, why doesn’t she seem close with Bae then or is it similar to Ina/Kroni/Kanade where they also arnt close despite sharing the same background

>>103900366
Is this the best cope nijifags can come up with these days?

Isn't the chinks more into neuro these days?

>>103900355
Well so far it’s only been JP and ID that have tried entering into the CN market, so we don’t know if any EN members would be ok doing the same yet. They should just get Bae and Gigi to act as bridges, I’m sure they’d like a chance to be able to use their original language

>>103900415
Third gens don't bond over heritage you mutt

>>103900472
What does this even mean, I’m too white to understand internal Asian racism

>>103900217
They hardly have anything good anyway

this thread smells like a cuck connect psyop.

burgers really cant let that reddit prostitute go

>>103900543
Nah, it's nijinigger this time >>103900172

>>103900366
huh isn't suisei fight so hard so she can enter holo with her model ?

>>103900543
We've been found out, phase sisters!

>>103900346
>LOL we don't US
>NOOOO tariff NOOOO US so hostile
typical commie

>>103900342
>>103900349
lol no

Chinese gacha sponsor gibs and donos from pulling streams is where the real money is, nothing wrong in crawling back for that alone, money doesn't stink. All the cope from holotoddlers is pure deflective whining even though it's unnecessary to begin with.
I hope holos are ready for consequences if anything goes wrong like it did with Coco. Chinks have even more volatile spergs that blow shit out of proportion (sometimes randomly over made up shit) even more than nips, but good fans are top tier. They donate, bunch of artists are chinks (fanart is the best exposure) and they translate the most. In 2020 I remember they were translating whole JP streams and were making a buttload of clips.

>>103900505
They are Canadian they don't care bout fellow Koreans

>>103900330
Actually they've been far less hostile to us than you have. At least they keep their word. Our loyalty to the US has been rewarded with tariffs and Israelis killing our humanitarian workers.
But we'll keep defending our trade routes from our biggest trading partner for the sake of a despotic retard and a gang of technocratic ghouls now proudly promising a future of human extinction.
Wait why are we doing that again? What are we getting out of this exactly? I forgot.
Anyway post true blue aussie chuubas

>>103900659
Jap gachas are way better and don’t need to do kike shit like that

>>103900384
You can't make laws like that retroactive because of the constitution so no it wouldn't.
It would have to be implemented over a period of time to allow for companies to follow it.

>>103900693
Ah so it’s basically just typical Asian American corruption the

>>103900641
So where did they get their writing system from?

>>103900659
Yeah I think many people fail to realize just how much shit China has to provide, especially compared to the EN/ID sphere. There are so many more artists/game collabs/revenue/people/literally everything that is being missed out on right now. Cover just needs to rip the bandaid off and make it official cause it’s obviously gonna happen

>>103899642 (OP)
>daily chinkbeggar thread

>>103900659
>Chinks have even more volatile spergs that blow shit out of proportion (sometimes randomly over made up shit)
This is the daily /vt/ experience. Wait a minute...

>>103900789
They brutally conquered the chinese and took it as spoils of war

>>103900865
kek fuck you i laughed

>>103900853
/vt/ is shit, but the level of harassment from here pale in comparison to chink's harassment

>>103899879
Zhang cope
>>103899942
>Why would they?
They are losing state foundings to TikTok unironically, the CCP is slowly pulling out the plug on them.

>>103900916
Yeah I don’t think people realize how toxic Chinese people get, EN has never really had that kind of crazy drama/backlash and there have been members saying nigga. I think EN could literally pull out a heil Hitler and still be ok honestly

>>103900916
the worst harrassment from /here/ are a few angry tweets that ger ratio'd or comments that gets instantly deleted
Chinks spammed the shit out of the live chat and hijacked every twitter tags that chuuba uses with gore

>>103899820
Could it also be that EN branch seems to have really slowed down the past year?

>>103900916
true, i caught a whiff of it back in the day. sucks that it tends to go down like that.

>>103901013
Really just shows the main difference in how each fanbase views itself and the members. In EN there is not really as much fan unity, as there is about talent worship. While for CN there is absolutely a sense of fan unity, where the talents have to also abide by the herd mentality or get fucked. JP has this as well to some extent, but their autism is not as cancer as China

>>103900415
GG is Chinese and even sings in it, Bae hates being Chinese and hid her Cantonese from Kobo

>>103900711
>Actually they've been far less hostile to us than you have
>At least they keep their word
what dimension you are in
china literally has anti japan sentiment like iran to america
and when japanese kid get stabbed in china
the response is "no japan hate in china"

>>103899642 (OP)
you lost the culture war, faggot :)

Guys, they were banned from China because of the T-bomb. They didn't leave the Chinese market because they wanted to. Them being slowly allowed back in because there's so many Chinese investors isn't some policy shift on Cover's side.

its been half a decade already...I have my own misgivings for what happened to Coco and Haachama and would like remuneration as well but it is what it is. The environment has changed.

Chinese soft power is ascendant with the proliferation of labubus, gacha (LADS and Genshin are the top earners), gaming (Black Wukong), and even movies (Ne Zha 2) while Japanese soft power continues to stagnate. China has also had a lot of good PR recently with a lot of streamers going there and positive PR on tiktok.

Ultimate all we can hope is that Hololive's stranglehold of the vtuber market gives them significant leeway in regards to any partnership.

>>103901043
I think that’s a big reason for this, EN already reached its peak with Gura and now she’s gone. So unless they get another Gura, EN isint going to get any bigger so that only leaves returning back to the CN market. Sure they could try debuting EN 5, but I doubt that’ll solve their problems

>>103900415
Because American and Australian cultures don't mesh well despite singing the same language.

>>103901111
Seems like the Holo members that are passport bro’s children, which Bae is and probably Kronii/Ina too, want to hide their nationally

>>103901155
Gura was right place/right time, they wont get another Gura. Sucks for them cause if Gura had actually been a go getter, Hololive would be mainstream by now doing collabs with Wallmart and stuff like that

>>103901148
I don't care, chinks eat dogs and cats, I don't want them anywhere near Holo

>>103901148
Yeah at this point I think it’s fine, there hasn’t really been another drama as big as the China one since for Hololive so it should be fine. Literally just as long as they don’t show their analytics it’s fine. Hololive still openly says Taiwan/Hong Kong through events and collabs, so that’s not the problem it’s only a problem if you insinuate that they are separate from China

>>103901138
I am gonna be honest, here's the truth. The whole reason back then the whole thing exploded was a pretext by b2, they believed they could do the classic chink shit of stealing Cover's chinese branch IPs and use them for themselves, the market there was booming thanks to Holo but they wanted all the pie, if you worked with chinks you know they fucking do this all the time, they think they can outsmart you despite being pretty retarded. Nothing changed at Cover because they still use Taiwan, deal with Taiwan, and hold events there. What changed is b2 completely failing at creating an internal market. They thought, "if the japanese can we can too." Well they couldn't, they are now sponsoring fucking Filian's vtuber awards out of desperation.

>>103900719
maybe they're better, but you can't deny the absurd amount of money and traffic that moves through chink gachas, japan doesn't even come close. That money isn't so balanced either, when divided into JP/CN/GLOBAL, it's the CN side that donates the most. Checking right now, for Zenless Zone Zero, which is popular across the board, it takes the rest of the world combined to overcome chinese paypigs. There are exceptions, like horse gacha, but the point still stands.
I personally don't like it, but china does have a ton of potential paypigs, so it's understandable why holos would like a piece of that.

>>103901176
That doesn’t seem like it should hamper anything tho, they still share a nationally and language so it’s kind of sad to not see them embrace it just like how the Korean members don’t do anything with each other

>>103901213
You're just a poster on /vt/, we're talking about global trends. No one in any position of power actually cares what you want. I'm just laying out the groundwork for why there is a thaw in relations. Both Japan (not just hololive) and China see benefits in further integration; This is why China has become Japan's top trade partner in the last 25 years, replacing the USA.

>>103901252
(me) What people also forget (weren't there for) is part of the chink branch being against those same chinks bullying Coco, they used to call them bad wolves (?) or a chinese term like that. Implying they were working for someone else.

The retards that say Holos are crawling back to China are either have selective memory or a newfag larping or just retarded, It was China that decide to blacklist Hololive because they refused their demands.

>>103901204
For sure, especially if she actually focused more on music she could’ve been what Suisei is to JP. But at the end of the day she was just a lazy grifter

>>103901119
I'm Australian. But don't worry they don't like us either. Well I mean we deserve it a little bit given our history, but not as much as you guys do (assuming you're japanese) (no offense).
Which is a shame. I'm just a schmuck caught between two retarded superpowers I don't have any particular dislike of. It's not like my family did any of that awful shit either as we came from Ireland.
Oh well guess I'll die in the anime wars.

just a reminder coco deserved it. she was a redditor who thought it was hecking epic to be anti china.

the equivalent scenario is if a popular streamer in china endorsed a terrorist cell in america. yeh the americans would be angry.

>>103901252
this

>>103901342
Being anti-china is a objectively, morally correct thing to do.

>>103900136
>>103900355
>convinces a few of the girls in HoloEN to stream on bilibili
Do you really think a company like Cover that always plays it so safe would try something risky like that? The girls might agree to do it but it would cause a conflict between the EN and CN fans again. Cover will most likely continue to appeal to CN fans through HoloJP and TW fans through HoloEN.

>>103901342
I mean... would they be?
Like imagine a popular streamer from China supporting Luigi. I think that would be quite popular in the US.

>>103901413
The rift was never really from EN fans tho, it was entirely a JP/CN thing. Yeah EN fans were mad because the company was bending to China, but ultimately it was 2 JP talents that caused the controversy

Good. They'd be retarded not to get back into the market of a country that is massively on the rise with a middle class that finally has some purchasing power.

>>103901464
Retard-chama, vast majority of west taiwanese population is effectively a slave or farmer fully dependant on their lot.
They don't even uderstand the concept of "purchasing power"

>>103901317
I find it hilarious that Australia spends a considerable part of its military budget on "South China Sea Trade Protection" when the trade they're protecting is from China and they're ostensibly protecting it from...China lol

>>103901464
They consume rhinoceros horn to grow their dicks.

>>103901519
I mean this is just cope...ultimately underestimating China will be to your detriment so I guess continue thinking this?

>>103901176
We hate seppos but unfortunately we get along like a house on fire

>>103901553
I don't underestimate them. They are a danger to the human race and must be opposed at every turn.

>>103901519
>Retard-chama, vast majority of west taiwanese population is effectively a slave or farmer fully dependant on their lot.
the average chinese person is more educated than the average american now. china is creating huge amounts of engineers and scientists. while america spits out new onlyfans accounts just as fast

>>103901635
And yet they still abuse animals and belive in folk magic. Wow, great education.

>>103901573
If you say so, lets check back in a decade to see where China is in the world order and if anyone is "resisting" them when current global trends are shows countries further warming to China.

It controls significant parts of rare metal processing needed for chip production, EVs, Solar/Green energy, ship building, and is catching up to TMSC with chip manufacturing, even Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA has admitted this.

Even India is being pushed by the USA to recently warm relations with China.

I think if you want to resist someone you should at least have an assessment of them that is rooted in reality otherwise you're just fighting ghosts

>>103901450
>it was 2 JP talents
anon... yeah those 2 JP talents that were so popular with EN fans that they were considered holoEN Gen 0. A lot of older EN fans are still here and hold a grudge.

>>103901531
On the plus side, at least we got a good sketch out of it.
https://youtu.be/sgspkxfkS4k

>>103901573
They're just dudes

>>103901697
>They are evil, but they are powerful, better not to resist, just let them rape the earth
What kind of bullshit reasoning is that? Is your argument that I shouldn't resist them because others won't? Appeal to popularity?

Are you asian by any chance?

>>103899642 (OP)
I mean it's been years and years. Everyone involved is gone.
Plus America is unstable and being a bitch to Japan for no fucking reason outside of Trump having nostalgia for the 80s.

>>103901669
>And yet they still abuse animals
have you seen a factory farm before? america invented them

>>103901822
Fubuki is not gone, nigger. Nor is hachama.

Also, what? Did China gave up on Taiwan. Should cover just backstab Taiwanese fans?

>>103899642 (OP)
i don't understand why JPs are engaging more and more with Chinese fans than American ones
the USA is their better ally in both business and military, even our cultural connection is closer. so why are they cozying up to the enemies? just to spite? when they make shipping goods to US cost $200 USD its really like they're trying to repel their western fans when it should be 1500 yuan shipping to china instead
i just dont understand

>>103901835
Whataboutism.

Also, chinese farms are worse.

>>103901853
>when they make shipping goods to US cost $200 USD
Who introduced tariffs, hm?

>>103901213
>chinks eat dogs and cats
So do japs outside the tourist areas

>>103901853
Because mutts elected a loonie. Simple as.

>>103901835
Come on now, I like China but when it comes to industrial farming and meat markets, you gotta let the yanks have this one. Pick your battles man lol

Are we now pretending the japanese give a shit about animal cruelty. Their zoos look like concentration camps lol.

>>103901885
t. Zhang.

>>103901921
They care more than the chinks, that's for sure.

>>103901851
In the end they can't help but respect Fubuki sticking to a friend even at a financial loss. They don't obsses over her anymore.
Nobody ever gave a single shit about Haachama. When have you seen the Chinese giving her shit in the last 4 years? Even back then they just did their typical screeching for apology but it was just comments, it was with Coco that stuff escalated.

>>103901879
>>103901901
that's just a cover (pun unintended) they were already gearing up to return to bilibili before then so the same thing would have happened under sleepy joe round 2

>>103902011
>In the end they can't help but respect Fubuki sticking to a friend even at a financial loss. They don't obsses over her anymore.
I don't believe you, they are feral.

>>103902018
MIGA lies

>>103899879
Wasn't there that leak on Taiwan forum about Bilibili kneeling to Cover and promising good terms & benefits just last year?

If some Japanese chuuba had said native americans were genocided or mentioned the holocaust as a rrat there would be Americans calling for her head too.
And just recently Fillian got in trouble for daring to speak to Russians.
The Taiwan stuff is similar I guess.

>>103902116
I honestly don't care who kneels to whom. They are nothing but trouble, keep them out.

>>103899642 (OP)
huh? oh it must have been the wind
yeah fuck china please return coco

>>103902116
>believing the island chinks
Don’t
They are just as fucked in the head as mainlanders

>>103902141
>If some Japanese chuuba had said native americans were genocided or mentioned the holocaust
Western streamers say stuff like that all the time and nobody gives a shit. Don't act like both countries have the same attitudes towards free speech.

>>103902141
Since when mentioning Taiwan is the same as denying the Holocaust?

>>103901851
NTA but, Fubuki and Haachama ain't gone and they still do business with Taiwan as usual which means China bend the knees so where is the problem? Business is business
>what if there is Taiwan yab 2.0
Hololive already prove themselves to be able to survive and thriving without China market as opposed to zhangs claim that they will die without them back then so they are basically negligible

>>103902141
Orc seethe
Slava ukraini
Hololive stands with Ukraine

>>103899642 (OP)
>playing with my nipples
you read this and thought about china? what's wrong with you? the important part of this tweet is about nipples.

>>103901853
>the USA is their better ally in both business and military, even our cultural connection is closer.
Well they don't have much of a choice now, do they? For starters, Japan doesn't really have a military, the US military ostensibly is their military. It's also a grave mistake to assume Japan has no resentment for the US, especially reignited after the tariffs.

I mean you guys literally dethroned their living god. Obviously much has changed since then, but still.

>>103902280
>I mean you guys literally dethroned their living god
No, they famously and controversially didn't. Is that what they teach in west Taiwan?

>>103899642 (OP)
The fact that they can stream on bilibili means the chinese lost and had to kneel to Cover. Taiwan’s its own country, China lost.

>>103901798
You’re the one saying they are evil. I disagree that they’re evil. If we’re looking at the score board then the USA would be a way more evil entity. It’s currently funding a genocide (human rights watch, amnesty international, Doctors Without Borders, and Btselem all agree on this). Within the last two decades it has illegally invaded two counties and then operated multiple torture sites to terrorize usually innocent people. It has also funded the pedophilic states of Saudi Arabia and UAE. Not to mention the innumerable amount of coups it has started since the end of WW2 and the millions killed by its funding of right wing groups/death squads in South America and south east Asia. Not to mention the CIA’s funding of global drug trade. This is all stuff the CIA itself has either admitting or was leaked.

You just know that the chief reason yagoo is doing this is the ludicrous cost of holo earth. Seriously what the fuck were they thinking?

>>103901953
haha yeah...

>>103902328
Forced them to admit their living god isn’t a god
Better?

>>103900239
you've been saying bilibili is bleeding money and about to go out of business since 2021

>>103902141
maybe more akin to people being arrested for criticizing Israel

>>103901413
>Do you really think a company like Cover that always plays it so safe would try something risky like that?
Considering how many talents now have bilibili channels they obviously don't consider it that risky. They already have a few talents in Holostars EN streaming on bilibili so the next step would be Hololive EN.

>>103902328
You're right that was a poor choice of words. I meant made their god admit he wasn't a god. I was thinking about it too metaphorically and forgot that nigga is literally an emperor on a throne lol

>>103901342
>anti-china
>calling taiwan on youtube statistic is equivalent to supporting terrorist
CCPshill is really sending their best

>>103902347
>I disagree that they’re evil
You should be killed

>>103902340
Taiwan recently went through a recall campaign started by the “separate from China coalition” and all 31 recall campaigns were won by the pro-China coalition so clearly the civilian population has a much more nuanced and complicated view of Taiwan-China relations than outsiders might expect

>>103902141
KEK

I find it funny that every catalog bait thread designed to cause Holoseethe ends up being taken over by Holofans despite like 60% of the Holo fanbase being somewhere else.

The jannies over here could directly ban any Hololive discussion and it would still be the same.

>>103902579
Come get me then, pussy bitch

>>103901450
this is rewriting history. en was the main driving force behind leaving china. japan would have been fine if cover sacked coco and haachama. corporate worship is the norm over there. it was the massive success of hololive en that made them consider otherwise. now en is dead so they need money from somewhere else.

>>103902347
by your own logic chinese is still most evil stupid
chinese killing each other for 2000 years while USA only ~200 years old
is this why le america evil always including "after WW2"

>>103900366
>Suisei might as well not even be in Hololive at this point,
Hmmm watamage might appear and take away you kuzuha at this point

>>103902563
The biggest giveaway is
>yeh the americans would be angry.
lol this guy has no clue just how disillusioned yanks are right now

>>103900172
NijiJP needs to be botted just to be able to beat HoloEN (the SIDE BRANCH) and the discussion about Indies (even including ex-Holos) is fruitless after the LLD.

Kinda based that hololive made China bend the knee.

I don't blame them since USA is fucking themselves over and they need a new market to make money.

>>103902347
100% this was posted by an American
>>103902579
100% this was posted by a fat Malaysian

>>103902737
Korea is right there and they don't even care that Japan denies their war crimes against them as long as they don't make the small penis gesture or whatever

>>103902656
>chinese... ....2000 years
I guess we're just going to forget that time that mongolians invaded and replaced china's entire culture with actual civilization and bred out the original chinese bloodlines.

nene just tryin to get that bag
nothin wrong with gettin some Chinese money for free
better than letting them spend it on eating dogs and torturing cats and invading taiwan

>>103902347
Wait why was this deleted and not the rest

>>103899642 (OP)
>>103899692
Literally samefagging on cooldown

>>103902392
They do retard

>>103902624
>60% of the Holo fanbase being somewhere else.
99% of holobrowns being on r*ddit isn’t exactly something to brag about

>>103902792
Are you trying to suggest Gengis Khan wiped out and replaced Han Chinese people? Are you actually that fucking stupid?
Jesus christ man

>>103902949
it was a faqin monkey joke, dumbass

>>103902988
Chink cope

>>103902624
phasefags love holo

>>103899820
>it’s much more likely that Cover is steadily returning by just doing Bilibili streams for now to gauge interest
They have been doing this for 2 years. lmao
It's more like a simple gesture to the Chinese fans that a desire to return to the country.

Hololive fleecing chinks for their simpbux and keeping their semen flowing to handkerchiefs instead of making chinklets is a good thing, retards.

>>103903022
I mean it's a good bit, at least

>>103899896
/thread
>the bullshit calmed down
>the reddit coomer dragon is gone
>people can enjoy chuubas again
>nature is healing

>>103903058
They're doing the exact same thing in Japan though.

This is why Coco will never comeback. She only bring a problem.

>>103903126
Cover doesn’t even want her obese 3view ass

>>103903126
Yes Vladimir good good you get food for today very good

>>103902773
Cover would have never ending scandals with HoloKR far worse than anything in HoloEN. China is actually the safer option and they have a much larger market. The main issue with China is that NijiEN already got most of the Chinese fujos that wanted to watch EN vtubers.

This >>103902609
Taiwan and Japan are one of the few countries that have positive trade balance with China.
China is their main customer.
Nijisanji can do business in China just fine
Cover's shareholders also pushed for returning to Chinese market since last year.

>>103903229
>Nijisanji can do business in China just fine
lol

Hololive talents were never against China or Chinese audience
the coco incident was only inconvenience to them to get that bag

Hololive Taiwan debuting next year

>>103899728
JP fanbase don't give a shit about bili streams

>>103900172
I can feel how strong the hatred and seeth from this female nijimonkey. It's been a while since I genuinely read real hatred that deluded their perception of reality. Kwab

>Hololive won't come back to china
>It's fine it's just Kobo and Matsuri
>Sora is shilling merch but that's just merch it's fine
>Ok talents are streaming there but it's fine EN won't do it
You are here

>>103903352
people forget that Taiwanese are also on Bilibili

>>103903349
>Hololive talents were never against China or Chinese audience
True. Didn't stop the Chinese audience from thinking they were though.

No politics means no politics, not only politics I agree with. If China agrees to stop sperging and not trying to tell Cover what they can or can't do, then there's no reason to refuse to do business there.
On the same day Nene announced her billichink stream, FWMC announced a Taiwan sponsorship, using the word Taiwan.
And I didn't forget the great coincidence that not a single holoEN talent apparently wanted to play the wizard game while the JPs all flocked to it as the new FOTM. Curious. Almost like Hololive was bending the knee to political screeching from loud minorities trying to do thought policing, exactly like the retarded bugs over the Taiwan shit.

>>103902988
well wiped out no
let's just say forcefully adding some genetic variation to population

>>103900269
I actually discovered today that Nenechi is actually Korean.

>>103903549
Nenechi is a FUCKING ALIEN

>>103899642 (OP)
>Did Coco’s sacrifice mean nothing?
you've said it yourself, despite everything cover has done for her, coco still decided to abandon the company

>>103902773
Actually Korean hate Japanese much more than Chinese hate Japanese.
Their netizens are one of the most toxic in the world. There is a reason that Ina, Kronii and Kanade never try to pander to them.

>>103903549
Nene is bear, seal, dog and god

>>103901444
Chinks DID support Luigi.

t. RedNote doomscroller

>>103902773
>they don't even care that Japan denies their war crimes against them
You cannot be serious lol

>>103903671
You only need to look at the k-pop fanculture they've exported to realise that shit is beyond fucked

The plan is:
Appeal to China
Force homostars in more
Release HoloEarth in china
???
Profit

They think china will save their failed metaverse project, they already have the twitter account parked https://x.com/holoearth_cn
They are willing to destroy the whole company chasing AI and metaverse
Everyone laughed when they said they still think they're a tech company but they really do think that and vtubers were just an accident for them

>>103903352
What would be the point?
They’re just as fucked in the head and easily offended but there are way fewer of them.

>>103903870
They are trying to have some gacha collabs of popular holos.

>>103903671
Japan but fucked Taiwanese as well, but surpassingly they don't seeth in comparison to Chinks and Koreans

>>103899642 (OP)
>Nene casually playing with her nipples
>Okayu:

>>103903870
If Hololive can finally colab with Hoyoverse or Azur Lane we will reach peak pre Coco Hololive

>>103903870
Everyone involved in creating Holoearth should be executed. Anyone who saw it happen and didn't stop it should be executed as well

>>103904078
Okayu is sexual abuser worse then Matsuri

>>103902773
>Koreans don't hate the Japanese

LMAOOOOOOOOO

what happened to hololive sovl bros
I want to go back

>>103899642 (OP)
HoloChina when?

>>103899642 (OP)
That was before it went public wasn't it

>>103899692
they hated him because he told the truth

>>103904183
their impeached president loved Japan and was secretly worshiping Amaterasu

>>103904260
Half of their presidents were either Japan collaborators and the other half got arrested over corruption charges.

>>103904260
Damn, now that's an Okami superfan

>>103904220
Back to where? Sora is still there and picrel is before Coco even exists or even gen 1

>>103901043
The tariffs hurting merch sales is one thing but the other thing is Justice fucking sucks. They need more gens like Advent, not more loud chinks and Homobeggars.

>>103899642 (OP)

China does have a fuck ton amount of money

Sorry, but money runs the world

You can't live purely on grass and water

>>103904769
Tell that to the horses

>>103904769
>China does have a fuck ton amount of money
no it doesnt, they just played off the greed of idiots
>think of all the POTENTIAL money you can make from the chinese market!
and they end up losing a fortune but nobody ever learns
It's funny watching Blizzard stick their dick into the same trap over and over though

>>103899642 (OP)
>>103899692
>>103899728
>>103899741

Surprise - The company that is bullied by investooooors to grow constantly must swallow the pride and go back to selling their shit on the market their hate. Welcome to real life, duh.
It's also not helping that EU, SEA, lol Australia and Africa are massive nothingburger markets for vtubing and uncle Donald is hostile towards everything and everybody. Cover has literally no choice but to return to China... or sell entire Hololive brand, which will end with whoever will buy it still reaching to Chinese market, lol.
It fucking sucks ass, but there's no other valid markets for Hololive but China. Unless someone here is like planning to repeat assassination attempt on uncle Donald in hopes that whoever will replace him will do the 180 turn on all import policies, lol.

>>103905412
China is probably among the most weeb adjacent country in the world
literally every Chinese person under 30 is an unironic otaku
makes sense to pursue that market

>>103905412
[cont.] And in contrary to random pro-China fucks here - No, China has no massive amounts of money, lmao. But they still have billions of bugmen in need of brainless entertainment and are not putting 100000000% tariffs on others for existing in the same Universe.

>>103901798
>>They are evil, but they are powerful, better not to resist, just let them rape the earth
you're talking about the states here right lmao

>>103902116
>Bilibili kneeling to Cover
I dont think you guys understand how small Cover is when compared to Bilibili. Some basic research shows Bilibili is worth around 9.5 billon, meanwhile Cover is worth 222 millon

I hate China and the CCP, but the US has higher tariffs on Japan than China does. What do you expect them to do? Also China's weeb population is probably larger than the US's per capita even if they have lower spending power.

>>103902141
Nigga America talks about the dark parts of history daily, fuck, hourly even.

>>103901853
>even our cultural connection is closer.
There is no way you genuinely believe, some history and/or politics professor in school failed you.

>>103899692
Are you afraid they will detrone youload from his last bastion?

>>103905519
[cont.] One more kind of important element to note - Youtube is becoming more and more garbage as a platform. So Cover has a choice to either stick to rapidly shitting itself platform with users composed of Europoors, Seanigs, exactly three Africans and Australians, and Americans that will buy jack shit due to tariffs... or try to expand to Bilibili and make money there.

>>103899642 (OP)
>Did Coco’s sacrifice mean nothing?
Much like Coco herself.

>>103905769
So it's just coincidence the JPs had a group trip to Hollywood but not China or even Korea? Funny.

>>103899642 (OP)
Americans buying anything from Hololive.. you guys are the weakest part of their empire.

>>103899642 (OP)
>>103899692
Samefaging aside, Holos had been streaming on Labu2 since 2023 and there not signs that there was a real change to fully return to the plataform. Outside of sporadics appearances from some Holos that still have some fanbase there.

>>103901853
All east asians, contrary to how much they hate each other, are much more culturally similar to each other than to westerners. They all go to very similar school systems in their formative years and are much more collectivist than the west. The Japs actually consider parts of Chinese history like the Three Kingdoms to be part of their own history because Japan didn't even exist yet.

They kicked out the one who said Taiwan so the whole "They crawled back to Holo despite them saying Taiwan" is cope

>>103906335
Anon, the only reason China is rich is the US

>>103906351
retarded take
they learn english in school and not chinese

>>103906389
It's like the story of Frankenstein.
Wait, who's the monster again?

>>103906489
The garchs that sold us out. And are still doing it.

>>103906390
What do you think kanji is?

>>103905686
Correct. Bilibili was the one who banned hololive from streaming on their platform. Now they have unbanned hololive.
Hence, they changed their stance and bent the knee to welcome back hololive.

>>103906668
Based man of principal standing above the waste of mammon

>>103906723
Other way around. Hololive didn't change any policy, didn't publicly apologize, didn't do anything that could be seen as kowtowing.
Bilibili (a Chinese government owned service) was the one who changed their policy and welcomed hololive back. They kowtowed.

>>103906390
Japanese learn classical Chinese untill end of WW2
The Kanji onyomi spellings are all Chinese anyway desu

>>103906822
Did bilibili, the corporation, ever actually get involved? I was under the impression that it was always the schizo users.

>>103906822
>>103906750
and cover is willingly holowashing them
i don't ever want to hear about saudi sportswashing from hippocratic leftists again

>>103906914
Yep, they actively banned hololive content on the platform.

>>103906931
The saudis put up millions of dollars in prize money and in actually funding travel and the esports event itself. What is the equivalent of that which Cover is doing to "holowash"?

China is a massive market, ignoring it over some ungrateful bitch is not a good strategy

>>103905519
>and are not putting 100000000% tariffs on others for existing in the same Universe.
retardanon do you have any idea the kind of shit you have to do if you want to sell your shit in china?

>>103906922
>all this seething over a 2d women streaming on a chink platform

God just get a fucking job you people.

>>103907105
>sell your shit
I believe you would need a permit from the Surgeon General? are you indian by any chance?

>>103906943
they didn't
Hololive clips are big in Bilibili to this day

>>103905686
>China demanded Coco,Fubuki and Haachama to get fired
>China banned Hololive for not bending the knee
>Hololive not only survive but thriving without China
>They suddenly let Hololive back to China again despite Fubuki and Haachama still there also still doing collabs with Taiwan
I think you're the one that don't understand, Hololive never reject the idea of doing business with China or anyone for that matter, only reject their unreasonable demand and Hololive going back to China means extra money with no real downside, it's not like they can steal or copy anything from Hololive, they can't copy Hololive talents lol

funny 90% of traffic on this thread isn't:
-Chinese mainlander angry at Hololive
-Hololive fans
-Coco fags
it's mostly seething niji/phase keks feeling jealous of Cover

>>103902648
>if cover sacked haachama
We'd have a 3rd world war

>>103899642 (OP)
This is worse than nanjing

>>103907038
MAMMON

>>103907105
China may have very restrictive rules about it, but at least they are not changing it on a whim of a senile idiot. The situation from... yesterday? showed how absolutely miserable is doing business in USA - Trump announced new bullshit tariffs hitting mainly Japan and suddenly every store selling Japanese goods suspended selling shit to USA because they are forced to restructure everything.
Literally everything is better than America right now because of how volatile and prone to pissy fits is Trump. Nobody knows what this elderly moron will create tomorrow.

>>103909013
>China may have very restrictive rules about it, but at least they are not changing it on a whim
Yes they are, even their own companies like tencent get fucked regularly because of it

>>103899642 (OP)
Genshit

>>103902487
>They already have a few talents in Holostars EN streaming on bilibili so the next step would be Hololive EN.
There is no next step, holoEN and StarsEN are not even on the same stairway. Holostars are just desperate for any views so they were probably recommended to try streaming on B2 too since it worked for NijiEN before.

Coco aside, it's also pretty funny that Nene was originally designed to appeal to China, but after the drama, they made a big deal about giving her a new design.

>おかゆ先輩にちくび弄ってるのバレちゃった
Does anyone who actually knows Japanese know the context of this?

>>103901853
Look at what's popular in China. Especially their video games. Hoyo games, Wuthering waves, all these anime-inspired games are popular over there. So you have people with similar interests with the biggest population in the world and the spending power that will make most companies bend their knees.
Trailertrash and activists are incredibly retarded

>>103913974
>Look at what's popular in China. Especially their video games
>Chinese game
>Chinese game
>Chinese game
wow great pattern recognition champ, very smart foreigners will bet their business on selling to china!

>>103899642 (OP)
>nene we need more money for holoearth
yeah yagoo is losing it

>>103914263
You forgot anime-inspired. They're chinese games based off of something that was cultivated in Japan. You're not beating the trailer trash allegations bud. Work on your intelligence and maybe your pattern recognition might work properly

>>103915877
China doesn't need to buy shit from anyone because they can just steal it instead. This is the reason imported media will never be consistently big in China. It might be a hit at first but then it will be endlessly copied by chinese companies, and chinese consumers prefer the local products to the foreign ones. Japan inventing anime and vtubers is not relevant at all to China

>>103899642 (OP)
>playing Genshin
Noooooo not my wife Nene!!

>>103899642 (OP)
It does suck that HoloCN was cut, I watched one of them somewhat regularly at the time and it was sad seeing her say goodbye to us.

>>103899879
What happen to EVERY vtuber on bilibili having to adhere to china policy of doxxing themselves as soon as vtuber hitting 100k subscriber? So hololive get special privilage while china vtuber can't, sound like bili2 crawling back to holo here.

What's with /vt/'s hatred for Genshin? What's the /vt/ approved gacha anyway?

>>103915877
your mother dead or whatever stupid insults you gutter oil bat eaters say

>>103913974
The only popular Chinese product is gacha Sloppa. Unless you play gacha, which is just shitty games with gambling mechanics, nothing good comes from there.
Their people are assholes.
Their government is unironically trying to cosplay the Soviet Union in 2025.
Their products are crap.
And touching China at all puts the company and talents at risk of harassment and Chinese chimp out

>>103899642 (OP)
Any more info about the whole nipples thing has come out since this thread was made?

>>103917847
i was about to ask why is everyone ignoring the nipples part

>>103917847
>>103917883
>braindead EOP coomers not watching streams

>>103918058
Some people have jobs, just post the link.

>>103899642 (OP)
The dissolution of HoloCH branch was Cover's biggest mistake.

>>103918188
>>103917847
Someone on Reddit (sorry) said they were talking about a game or something

>>103917847
>>103917883
>>103918683
I was doubting my own Japanese too much. The Grok translation is wrong
Nene was streaming Okayu's game and was pretending to grope Okayu's boobs using her own 3D model. Okayu caught her doing this
"I got caught by Okayu-senpai playing with her nipples" would be the actual TL in that case, the auto-TL doesn't have the context necessary and the original JP doesn't specify a subject clearly

>>103899934
Chinese fans were hoping Cover would come back after Coco's graduation. Ready to forgive. Didn't happen then.

Don't understand Cover's direction to return, which has been a year in planning... pressure from shareholders?
It's no longer the lucrative market it once was—overcrowding among streaming creators, with an economy experiencing less disposable income.

>>103899642 (OP)
>Vtuber who literally had to change her entire design and lore because of china is now back to streaming to them
idk why but that's funny as hell

>>103921498
Just realized it's probably more to be removed from blacklists. Let bygones be bygones.
There is no new China branch.....yet.

>>103921498
With the state of economy that Japan is in right now, Cover doesn't have much choice. Realistically, where else should they expand to?
It's not like they've never tried.
EN
> rapid decline
EU
> Justice is a flop
ID
> stagnant with no future
The only big market they've never tried is LATAM but I doubt it's better than China.

>>103923466
China was never a good investment.
Part of what made their decision to cut them off after le Taiwan incident was that Myth right out of the gate was making more money than the entire CN branch.
The Chinese don’t donate a lot of money.
It’s a communist country where a generation or two ago a bad crop could mean starving to death in a famine.
Nobody there dumps their wallet out to get a message read.

>>103923534
So what?
Having more bad customers who actually pay is better than have no new customer at all.

>>103923466
im guessing they just dont to deal with the lawlessness that goes on in LATAM

>>103923963
Not when the CCP decides to fine you a billion red Chinese Monopoly money because somebody said “Taiwan” on stream.
Or when all of your other talents’ streams get filled with Chinese spam bots for an entire year because someone somehow accidentally stepped on one of the countless cultural land mines that country has.

>>103923534
>CN branch
Nobody ever said CN branch making a lot of money, CNfags already watch Hololive before CN branch even exist, Azurlane collab happened at the same time around HoloCN gen 1 debuts

>>103899642 (OP)
>Did Coco’s sacrifice mean nothing?
Yeah pretty much. Bitch was a net negative and she did more harm than good overall. Now they realize how stupid they were to alienate an entire nation just to please one disloyal bitch.

>>103924143
How many times have we had to deal with CCP spambots since cutting off the Changs? Zero

I’d like to keep it that way.
They’re the most cancerous community on the entire internet. They make non-binary retards with pronouns in bio seem reasonable. We don’t need to go back to China.

>>103924221
Found the tranny loving kike/Indian

>>103924221
It's on them to decide if they can take the risk or not, you can't really stop schizo to anti, be it tranny, zhang or V-anti fleshstreamerfag, if the girls are ok with it then if you're a real fans you should at the very least not doomposting too much or even hate the girls for it or else you're not better than zhangs

>>103900204
you forgot basic dignity too.

>>103899642 (OP)
It's hard to ignore the world's second largest economy when you're a multi-billion dollar multi-national corporation sadly.

>>103925307
especially when your largest competitor can do business there just fine

>>103899642 (OP)
Cocofags it's time to leave hololive. Coco already left yet you didn't follow. Your oshi is not with hololive anymore. Go watch her act like a whore on her channel.

>>103899642 (OP)
US is falling apart, so it's natural they would seek other markets.

>>103899642 (OP)
Sacrifice? She didn't sacrifice anything. She left on her own thinking she was different and can make a difference.
She actually made things worse. Haachama made an honest mistake and could have been swept under the rug yet for some stupid reason Coco made a it bigger.

>>103925799
>US is falling apart,
2 more weeks?
Have you looked at China's economy?

China number one. Must be humiliating for japs to have to come back to China for money given their past history with WW2.

>>103899642 (OP)
honest question, why should hololive care about Coco or her "legacy and sacrifice" when it's pretty much confirmed she was actively trying to sabotage them once she left for VShojo?