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Anonymous No.103924658 >>103924693 >>103924707 >>103924726 >>103924770 >>103924962 >>103925076 >>103925726 >>103925813 >>103926277 >>103928557 >>103928581 >>103929617 >>103930222 >>103932715 >>103936085 >>103942569 >>103945019 >>103948234 >>103960489
MEWTENDOO LOREDROP!
https://x.com/MowtenDoo/status/1960541173317083540
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vRA21hVCGzp7xZyT1ij6GKVEKt7BGoTQCMFMY1JWVzxtr4ocdNnHUftoiLYxt3QQ5bxTFi7Y1eUSwuM/pub?pli=1
Anonymous No.103924693
>>103924658 (OP)
GOOGLE DOCKEY
Anonymous No.103924707 >>103924786 >>103926556
>>103924658 (OP)
So who DID have control over finances? There's no way it was just Gunrun.
Anonymous No.103924726 >>103933895
>>103924658 (OP)
TL;DR he doesn't go into the allegations about being a fucking assshole, just about how he supposedly wasn't aware or involved in the VERY criminal stuff with VShojo.
Anonymous No.103924770 >>103924832 >>103924859
>>103924658 (OP)
Is this the one who gets pegged by Mel daily?
Anonymous No.103924786 >>103924831 >>103924847 >>103924919 >>103925118 >>103925350
>>103924707
Everyone is going to say it wasn’t them and throw Gunrun under the bus.
When the IRS and the FBI start looking into it a Google dockey isn’t going to save anybody though.

Even Ironmouse’s ass will be wheelchaired to court if she was knowingly in on the financial fraud.
Anonymous No.103924831 >>103924895 >>103925499
>>103924786
If she was knowingly in it, then I guess she'd deserve it. So far that seems unlikely considering her history, but the money went SOMEWHERE.
Anonymous No.103924832 >>103924849 >>103925130 >>103925974
>>103924770
no he's the dude who peaked with the uaeleuale batman YTMND like 20 years ago and should have stayed there with that

feels like such a strange and small world that I knew about that ytmnd before I knew about 4chan, then didn't know he was actually a big OC maker until way later as well etc. him being a vshojo founder is also a "well that's real weird" type thing. like I wouldn't think some guy making dank meme vids would or should have much to do with running a vtuber corpo but if that was his jam then welp.
Anonymous No.103924847 >>103925934 >>103926158 >>103926195 >>103927854 >>103934524 >>103942898 >>103959830 >>103960419 >>103966554 >>103967990
>>103924786
Then the IRS and FBI are going to lose in the court of public opinion
Vshojo already is serving up a fall guy on a silver platter. Looking into it any further is money they could be spending taking down real criminals
Anonymous No.103924849 >>103924878
>>103924832
Fucking hell, that was him?
Anonymous No.103924859 >>103925145 >>103925228 >>103925228
>>103924770
He's the one that want to peg nyan.
Anonymous No.103924878 >>103924891
>>103924849
yes, back when I was a kid this was literally one of the absolute top ytmnds on the entire site and it was him. future vshojo founder mowtendoo, with skills like this how could they possibly have failed?

https://ualuealuealeuale.ytmnd.com/
Anonymous No.103924891
>>103924878
No fucking way. God, what a different time that was. I remember spending days, weeks browsing that site.
Anonymous No.103924895 >>103924940 >>103924948 >>103925118 >>103925350 >>103926022 >>103926493
>>103924831
It’s hard for me to believe she got 30 different Live2D models and was in charge of a charity donothon for her own illness and was the face of the whole company and had zero idea anything was wrong.
If she knew money was being ponzied to pay for other debts, and still went live with her donothon, that’s charity fraud.

Obviously we don’t know what she knew or when. But I have a hard time believing she knew nothing.
Anonymous No.103924919 >>103933934
>>103924786
I find it a little hard to believe that she would steal from a charity for a disease she has
Anonymous No.103924940 >>103924985 >>103925045
>>103924895
>It’s hard for me to believe she got 30 different Live2D models and was in charge of a charity donothon for her own illness and was the face of the whole company and had zero idea anything was wrong.
the problem with that is that we know she was legitimately popular and smart with money.
Also the whole fact that she had no reason to nuke the company herself and bring this all into the light. She could've easily left quietly and left them with the bag if she was in on it.
Anonymous No.103924948 >>103924975 >>103925350 >>103925517 >>103928750
>>103924895
I feel like people just want her to be guilty to vindicate the hate they already have, rather than any sense of logic.
Anonymous No.103924962 >>103938967
>>103924658 (OP)
Don't let this distract you from the fact that the Phase Connect CEO cheated in Azur Lane
Anonymous No.103924975
>>103924948
Got it in one.
Anonymous No.103924985
>>103924940
She did leave them with the bag tho
Anonymous No.103925045 >>103925350
>>103924940
Like I said we have no idea how much she knew. Maybe she really only knew as much as the other girls.
But like at some point she had to ask herself
>“Where’s the money for my charity? Why haven’t they been paid yet? Why are my friends all saying their payments aren’t going through either?”
If she got an answer to that question and continued collecting money for donations or for merch that wasn’t actually being funded, she “could” be liable to some degree.
I doubt they’d really drag her to court, but the internet would judge her quite harshly.
Anonymous No.103925076
>>103924658 (OP)
At least learn to type his name properly
Anonymous No.103925118 >>103925273 >>103925993 >>103926041 >>103960554
>>103924786
>>103924895
>IM out of nowhere
obsessed chimp
Anonymous No.103925130 >>103925268 >>103925433 >>103957295
>>103924832
>Peaked with YTMND
He peaked with Blend W actually.

Anyway anyone interested have a tldr from xvsj >>103921791
Anonymous No.103925145 >>103926921
>>103924859
He doesn’t really look...straight
Anonymous No.103925228 >>103969068
>>103924859
>>103924859
He isn't straight, he also didn't sexually harass nyan he just wanted her to say nigger out loud. according to her story.
Anonymous No.103925268
>>103925130
WAIT HE'S THAT GUY? Fucking hell I knew he sounded familiar.
That pepsi man video was amazing
Anonymous No.103925273 >>103925350
>>103925118
>Literal face of the company
>Had by far the most financial backing of anyone in the organization
>Out of nowhere

Screencap this.
There’s a solid 50% chance of a Google dockey regarding this within a year.
Anonymous No.103925350 >>103925413 >>103926060 >>103960554
>>103924786
>>103924895
>>103925045
>>103925273
same retard who lacks critical info. I'm not going to do your homework for you, but you surely type with a lot of certainty for someone who barely know anything about the topic or the person you're accusing.
Just confirms what anon said. >>103924948
Anonymous No.103925413 >>103925518 >>103925561 >>103925562
>>103925350
It’s just common sense.
It’s like saying Nixon was the only one who knew about Watergate or Bernie Madoff was the only one who knew about his Ponzi scheme.

Other people knew. How many knew, and what they knew, is yet to be determined. But it wasn’t just “le evil Gunrun!!!” and if you think it was only him you are legitimately retarded.
Anonymous No.103925433
>>103925130
For me it's Super Spice Bros 2.
That video got me laid.
I'm not joking, either.
Anonymous No.103925499 >>103925865
>>103924831
>the money went SOMEWHERE
Yeah, into Apek's pockets
>COO and CFO
>dipped from the company for unstated reasons in May
Anonymous No.103925517 >>103925550
>>103924948
Ding ding ding
Anonymous No.103925518
>>103925413
Yeah. That person being Apek, which literally everyone is saying you colossal retard
Anonymous No.103925550 >>103925582 >>103925628 >>103926493
>>103925517
>”Are you sure we have the money for my 45th Live2D model?”
>”My friends haven’t been paid in a year, and my charity is asking where the donation money is.”

If you don’t think it’s even possible then you are purposely trying not to.
Anonymous No.103925561 >>103925631 >>103925822 >>103933578
>>103925413
the difference is nixon's schemes were to the benefit of whoever helped him (presumably) since he'd get them a comfy job and kickbacks if he won. with gunrun the benefit is he gets to keep all the money and mouse doesn't get shit along with anyone else. she might have had a closer idea what was going on than a hapless newbie from experience but keep in mind she was the one who broke the dam about the situation herself and literally ended gunrun's whole career like the meme.

of course, one can also say mouse wanted to get out first to look virtuous and non-implicated in the process for brownie points. but if she had a paper trail it'd be found sooner or later regardless.

as for gunrun I mean the idea he's hiding in a bunker in brunei or something right now doesn't seem actually true, given he's been emailing the talents explaining they can't afford to declare bankruptcy unless .. the talents give him more money? but we know the paperwork and fees are like... $1000. for a company with a budget of a million a year they definitely could do it. even if all vshojo accounts were pilfered down to the last cent gunrun doesn't wanna cough up a thousand bones for it? or he was trying to fleece the talents one last time before fucking off. appalling shit really.
Anonymous No.103925562
>>103925413
>you are legitimately retarded
Yes, you are.
Anonymous No.103925582
>>103925550
VShojo didn't pay for new models, retard
That was never something they did
Anonymous No.103925628
>>103925550
That was not how VShojo worked everyone pays for their own models. The charity also would not be asking where the donation is because she didn't do an official declaration or pledge or anything she just said she would do it.
Anonymous No.103925631 >>103925671 >>103925683 >>103925686 >>103926181
>>103925561
I’m not saying she was a mastermind. Obviously that was Gunrun and the executive staff around him.

But knowingly selling merch or collecting donations, while knowing the money is going to go to other things, is fraud.
And I only said it’s a possibility.
Anonymous No.103925671
>>103925631
What other things? In this argument you're saying that she sold merch knowing that... the money was going to other things? So she scammed herself? Or are you saying she was taking money she made from merch sales, so you're arguing she was stealing her own money? Nigga what the fuck are you saying?
Anonymous No.103925683
>>103925631
Yeah, it's also a possibility that Gunrun conducted all VShojo business entirely nude
I have exactly as much evidence for that as you do of Mouse's knowledge of or involvement in fraud
Anonymous No.103925686
>>103925631
You're actually retarded it's unreal.
Anonymous No.103925701 >>103925718 >>103925833
A nimi thread died for this
Anonymous No.103925718
>>103925701
kek
Anonymous No.103925726
>>103924658 (OP)
>TLDR; "Gunrun's fault, not mine, LOLZ. See ya in my next project (You better be there)".
>Note: Anon won't be there.
Anonymous No.103925813
>>103924658 (OP)
So basically he has nothing to fear since his name is nowhere near anything on paper and was just a meme mascot CTO. He posted this doc to absolve himself publicly because he still has a project to release. He basically called himself a clown publicly to avoid prison.
Anonymous No.103925817 >>103925865 >>103925881
No you’re right guys. It was Gunrun and only Gunrun. He’s the sole big bad villain of VShojo, and everyone’s Google dockey says so!!

I’m sure nobody asked any questions throughout the year+ of not getting paid. I’m sure misplacing an assload of charity money was no big deal to anybody.
I am absolutely 100% certain nobody was told by Gunrun
>”We’re using some of the X money for Y right now, but don’t worry, it will get paid later”
and then continued as normal.
Anonymous No.103925822
>>103925561
I still believe Mel and Mousey were involved too but they turned on Gunrun with the help of the other girls so the only one that would come out fucked reputation-wise is Gunrun.

Had the other girls not went through with the plan, Mousey and Mel would have dropped bombshells about them too and then back and suddenly every ex-VShojo would have been reputationally ruined too forever.
Anonymous No.103925833
>>103925701
I'll take these over the umpteenth nimi-bait thread of the day.
Anonymous No.103925865
>>103925817
>>103925499
Anonymous No.103925881 >>103926701
>>103925817
Anon I need you to know that when people say Apek they're not doing a funny typo and referring to Apex Legends they're talking about a person who was the COO of VShojo and implicated in basically everything. Literally nobody is saying it was only Gunrun
Anonymous No.103925934
>>103924847
>the IRS and FBI are going to lose in the court of public opinion
It's the FED. They will go ahead and jail everyone involved regardless f the immediate reputation hit. Next week afterwards, some geopolitical fuckery blows up and the VTuber vs. U.S. thing gets completely overshadowed and forgotten.
Anonymous No.103925974
>>103924832
I made every single sentence in this post
Anonymous No.103925993
>>103925118
Liar rat's lies will bite her in the ass
It might have been sooner than was expected
Anonymous No.103926022 >>103926207 >>103926386 >>103926386
>>103924895
It's pretty clear that at least Mousey was in on-it to some extent unless Gunrun is a 300 IQ master manipulator Bond-villain tier embezzling mastermind.
Seriously, it's impossible that NOT ONE OF THEM KNEW, as far as we know, this whole debacle goes back a year or two.
It's impossible that no one noticed, much less that they didn'talk to each other about it unless everyone involved is also terminally retarded.
Anonymous No.103926041 >>103926687
>>103925118
Kys simp
Anonymous No.103926060 >>103926687
>>103925350
Kys simp
Anonymous No.103926158 >>103926687
>>103924847
>the IRS and FBI are going to lose in the court of public opinion
They ain't give a shit about public opinion even more so when it's just bunch of vtuber simps seething on Twitter because "muh le sick girl would never" you're acting like there will be national outrage, lmao
Anonymous No.103926181 >>103926302
>>103925631
>But knowingly selling merch or collecting donations, while knowing the money is going to go to other things, is fraud
This nigga so retarded that he doesn't realize he's suggesting that IM stole money from......herself lmao
Anonymous No.103926188
I'm dying laughing this stupid faggot begins with saying he didn't even know he was a nobody at the company and held a joke position.
Anonymous No.103926195
>>103924847
You must be 18 or older to use this website
Anonymous No.103926207 >>103926287
>>103926022
If Gunrun was sly enough to keep a lid on this from everyone, Vshojo would not have imploded. There's no doubt in my mind that at least some of the girls, at minimum, knew of what was going on.
Anonymous No.103926277
>>103924658 (OP)
It's fucking hilarious how he can't straight deny the sexpest allegations because people have screenshots of it
Anonymous No.103926287
>>103926207
Vshojo imploded because the IDF asked Mouse when they're going to get their money, causing Mouse to find out that Gunrun never donated the money, so she took down the company
Anonymous No.103926302 >>103926386
>>103926181
You have to go back to your Hasancord you absolute negro.

She was still getting paid by the company. It’s the fans that get fucked like Henya’s fans who won’t be getting their merch. Mousey probably got her cut of the donothon money too (I think it was a 50/50 split?).

If you think Gunrun wasn’t paying her that whole time you’re insane. She’s the one person he’s be paying even if nobody else was getting their money.
Anonymous No.103926386 >>103926475 >>103926479 >>103926854 >>103929948
>>103926022
>It's pretty clear that at least Mousey was in on-it to some extent
And what, exactly, makes that clear?
>>103926022
>It's impossible that no one noticed
But they did notice, we already know that there was discontent among talents for months prior. Why do you think Geega and Zen left?
None of them knew the full extent of what was happening. And even now they're still learning more in the fallout.
>didn't talk to each other
They were under NDAs which were clearly designed to keep the talents isolated so that they wouldn't discover the shady things going on with the company.

>>103926302
>If you think Gunrun wasn’t paying her
Everyone focuses on the charity money but Mouse is also owed money personally. She said this in her video.
She cannot say the amount but she implied it was equivalent to a house.
Anonymous No.103926475 >>103926537 >>103926541 >>103926542 >>103926586 >>103926687 >>103927585 >>103948386
>>103926386
Fucking simps. Even if evidence slaps you in the face, you still would rather believe liar rat's lies.
Just follow the money and you'll know who the culprit in this gray ass storytelling is.
Anonymous No.103926479 >>103967246
>>103926386
Mouse can say she’s Nigerian prince. She can say literally anything.
>”Y-Yeah me too guys! I wasn’t getting paid either! Man.. that really sucks for all of us, huh?”
Literally this faggot mewtwodicksucker did the same thing on Twitter.
>“Man, that VShojo news is pretty crazy, huh?”
He’s doing it with this bullshit dockey too. Bro jumps ship a month before the company implodes and he knew nothing too?
Okay lol
Anonymous No.103926493
>>103925550
>>103924895
This logic doesn't make sense
At the very least, Ironmouse would waste, let's assume, 100k purely on models in one year.
For the IDF, it is unclear what amount they would get after cuts (Twitch and hers, which only hers is missing since Twitch is automatic), therefore, the money THEY themselves split, have to be notified and reported to the IDF, thus giving the money to them
This is literally whatever, since there's no written document over how much they are giving that they themselves don't declare. So, while it is barely on the line to make the accusation of a deceitful act with the funds to classify as charity fraud, it would be a reach to say it was to pay Mouse's models, when she was already getting a cut.

Also, 500k is literally an enormous amount just in models
Anonymous No.103926537
>>103926475
what evidence?
Anonymous No.103926541
>>103926475
Give me evidence, then
Anonymous No.103926542
>>103926475
>accusing others of believing anything when he's the one who's making shit up to fuel his hate-boner
Are you mentally deranged?
Anonymous No.103926556 >>103926608 >>103947972 >>103960690
>>103924707
Mel's boyfriend had control of them too. Notice how she never complained about not getting paid and this year just before vshojo collapsed and went bankrupt she made her lifelong dream move to Japan meanwhile their near million dollar house they own didn't sell until moths after they moved
Anonymous No.103926586
>>103926475
The only evidence I can truly found, it's Gunrun literally admitting and declaring that they (the company) spent the charity money, never cussing any talent nor their involvement. What sort of evidence do you have?
Anonymous No.103926608 >>103926638 >>103926640
>>103926556
I’m sure that’s just coincidence too.
Didn’t you read the Google dockey?
It’s nobodies fault the entire company was a giant Ponzi scheme.
Except for Gunrun of course!
Anonymous No.103926620 >>103926662
Geega, Aethel and Nyan all implied that someone is going to get a lot of shit once the NDAs expire but they're all hanging out with mouse so it's clearly not her, why is this schizo so obsessed with trying to pin the blame on her?
Anonymous No.103926623
Are we living in the "Ironmouse arrested" timeline?
Anonymous No.103926638
>>103926608
Literally he's mentioned a lot of times on the document (the COO or CFO)
Anonymous No.103926640
>>103926608
Literally nobody is saying it's only Gunrun at fault
EVERYONE in this thread is telling you that Apek is also on the hook
Fucking listen
Anonymous No.103926662 >>103926774
>>103926620
Because he hates Mouse and her proximity to a fraud and embezzlement case is the closest that he will ever get to feeling vindicated.
Anonymous No.103926687
>>103926041
>>103926060
>>103926158
>>103926475
>simp
For someone who hates them you surely like to type the word
Anonymous No.103926701
>>103925881
He is also Mel's longtime boyfriend/pimp. Him pimping her out is basically how vshojo was created
Anonymous No.103926774 >>103926831 >>103926848 >>103926850 >>103927880
>>103926662
Okay fine.
It’s Gunrun and Apek.
But NOBODY ELSE knew ANYTHING about missing money/paychecks/sponsorship payments/charity fraud for over a year!
NOBODY!!!!
Anonymous No.103926831 >>103927085
>>103926774
bro why do you think mata, zen and geega left?
Anonymous No.103926848
>>103926774
What about Mel, you absolute schizo? She's a LOT more suspicious than Mouse.
Anonymous No.103926850
>>103926774
This really isn't as unbelievable as you think it is.
It's not that the talents weren't receiving any money at all, because they still had all their Twitch revenue and anything that was organized without VShojo.

I know you're poor as hell so you obsessively check your bank account, but when people have comfortable incomes that really isn't necessary. Maybe they check in to look at how much they have, but they probably aren't auditing their own cashflow.
Anonymous No.103926854 >>103926894 >>103928488
>>103926386
>They were under NDAs which were clearly designed to keep the talents isolated so that they wouldn't discover the shady things going on with the company.
But they all talked to that girl (don't remember her name) that also dropped a googledoccy saying she was told by multiple talents they weren't getting paid throughout the past year? Get real.
Anonymous No.103926894 >>103927913
>>103926854
Yes the NDA forbade them from discussing things specifically with other talents, congratulations
There's nothing stopping them from confiding in a trusted personal friend or family member
Anonymous No.103926921
>>103925145
Looks like your average SJW male feminist circa 2015
Anonymous No.103927085 >>103927416
>>103926831
zen has been there since the start, doubtful she hasn't ever asked for a piece of the pie
Anonymous No.103927416
>>103927085
Zentreya is mad at Mouse because she was preparing to sue VShojo but Mouse did it first and the company folded instantly lol
Anonymous No.103927554 >>103928134
He got fucking screwed by this shit too, god damn. They told him he was a CMO but really he was just some grunt by the sounds of it. Shady as fuck. The CEO and COO tried to keep the company compartmentalized, stopped as much open communication as possible, to hide the fact the company was crumbling.
Insane how bad this is looking for those two.
Anonymous No.103927585
>>103926475
You're so fucked Gunrun hahahahahahahaha this is BAD bad.
Anonymous No.103927611
>Company CEO and CTO is a flip and a jew
what can go wrong?
Anonymous No.103927854
>>103924847
This might be the dumbest thing ive read. I think this might actually beat the "gura is the mj of vtubing" thread for dumbest shit posted on this board
Anonymous No.103927880 >>103927945
>>103926774
Read the fucking document mate.
>There were times where I was asked to sign documents without adequate time to get them reviewed by an attorney and told that it could potentially lead to my removal from the company.
Do you understand how illegal this is? lol not only that, but they lied to him completely about his role in the company, they would make decisions and then only tell him after they were being put into action etc.
>In the final years, I did not directly speak to the CEO one on one in any capacity, only the COO weekly. This was likely due to the fact that I would be extremely critical...The CEO had a habit of putting other staff in front of him when faced with adversity.
Gunrun constructed a cascade of lies to deflect and divert any and all accountability by the look of things. He intentionally made it hard to open lines of communication to discuss anything. I have no fucking idea what he thought was going to happen but he is really, really screwed.
With that said, I'm not too familiar with Vshojo or the situation at large, but I imagine Gunrun is trembling with a loaded gun to his forehead rn, cold sweats, stomach twisted into hell.
Anonymous No.103927913 >>103928488
>>103926894
>There's nothing stopping them from confiding in a trusted personal friend or family member
...who can act as a mediator and tell talent A that talent B told them they aren't getting paid either, that's my point exactly
Anonymous No.103927945 >>103928025
>>103927880
All I can say as an xvsj watcher: Apparently he's still basically impossible to get ahold of. They're getting the runaround, ghosted, etc. The place just closed up shop and they can't get to anyone important. So I don't know what he's doing right now but it sounds like it's still trying to delay the inevitable for as long as possible.
Anonymous No.103928025
>>103927945
This is going to end with a corpse or a psych ward.
Anonymous No.103928108 >>103928452 >>103928488
I'm going to explain this for dumbasses who keep saying the dumbest shit imaginable as to how this was able to go on for as long as it did
1. They were still getting their Twitch income the entire time. That never stopped. So they were more lenient with a late payment or whatever because they could still survive just fine with bits and subs money.
2. Merch was paid out quarterly. That's basically 3 months before you even have the chance to notice a problem, and if they tell you oh we'll get it resolved next payout that's 6 months they've stalled you on a payout. Again, not the end of the world thanks to point 1
3. People generally don't assume that a problem is company-wide until it happens repeatedly. If you get your paycheck late from your boss, are you going to immediately ask everyone you work with if they got paid? Or are you going to go to the people in payroll to let them know so they can fix it? The proper channels gave excuses, which stalled for time. A problem has to be repeated and consistent before people start asking their coworkers if they're facing the same issues, which further extends how long it can happen
4. They were getting paid eventually. How exactly? Probably because something like a Mouse sponsorship would cover a debt owed to like, Kuro or something. Thanks to point 1, a late payment is easy to brush it off since at least you got it. That doesn't mean they got all their payments of course, since like kson mentioned she was owed for like a year, but excuses from people you trust are easier to swallow.
5. And most importantly of all: They had actually finally started to notice all at once. Kson said she was on her way out the door before Mouse's video hit. Kuro said the same. So did Haruka. That's 3 more members in addition to Geega and Zen having left before Mouse did and Mata having been fired a few months prior. Even if Vshojo hadn't died this way, losing 7 talents in one year, with 2 of these being fucking Mouse and Zen, would have dealt a killing blow to VShojo even if all of this hadn't come to light. Mouse's video accelerated the inevitable. It didn't cause it.
Anonymous No.103928134 >>103928353
>>103927554
We know that's you, MTD. We know you try to stir shit /here/. You're not off the hook you sex pest
Anonymous No.103928353
>>103928134
I'm a random australian man who barely knows who the guy in question is, fuck off. I'm basing everything I said off of what is in the document. Idk whether it's all true but documents regarding the merger at the very least prove that MTD was not on the board of directors, despite being told he was the CMO.
If he rapes anime women in his spare time, well I guess that sucks too.
Anonymous No.103928452
>>103928108
mucho texto
Anonymous No.103928488 >>103928750 >>103928961 >>103932677 >>103937428
>>103928108
>1.
Noone has said otherwise, just that you'd notice if you expected certain money to come in at certain times.
>2. [...] that's 6 months
Except, as you've said later, multiple talents have been waiting for 9 months+, so that's more than 3 quarters, nearing 4 in some cases. That more than raises eyebrows.
>3. If you get your paycheck late from your boss, are you going to immediately ask everyone you work with if they got paid?
Yes, you jobless nigger. In every thread you guys have posted this cope, multiple anons have come out to tell you we talk with our coworkers about payments if it's late by even a day, nevermind full-on months. Also, they literally did talk to others about it, >>103926854, >>103927913. Also-also, NDAs banning talks about payments/salaries are illegal and unenforceable everywhere that matters, every adult (should) knows this, they have no excuse.
>4.
Hence the "accusations" (reality) of Vshojo being a ponzi scheme, the term isn't being used lightly.
>5.
The rapid loss of talent is what ticked off anons *outside of the company* to realise Vshojo is actually doing badly, and this was months ago. It is very easy to imagine that the talents, being *inside the company*, would have had enough information to know/realise this even earlier. Hence the graduations, obviously, but also the allegations that ironmouse dealt the killing blow "prematurely" in a preplanned manner, perhaps even talking with gunrun, so that she can shift the blame to the execs fully, instead of waiting to go down with the ship and getting blamed as well.

All of this has been covered extensively over multiple threads the past month, do you just ignore any and all arguments coming your way or what?
Anonymous No.103928557 >>103928581
>>103924658 (OP)
First thing to notice is that this fucker is NOT responding of what he’s actually accused, beung a creep and doxxing the talents. Seeing him avoiding the argument entirely, I’m gonna believe it’s true.
Second, being told “you are on the board” and then finding out you are not is WILD for several reasons, most importantly the fact it creates a lot of misrepresentation, which is legal basis for a lot of problems of stuff Vshojo did, even up to contracts if they cite him as COO.
Third, to release all this shit and scream “I’ll collaborate”, it means that legal shit is happening and he is shitting himself of the tsunami. Lawyers banging at the door looking for someone to eat level of scared. Gunrun better not be on US soil anytime soon.
Tl;DR this guy is still a creep but lawyers are hunting for financially responsible and this guy came prepared as fuck.
Anonymous No.103928581
>>103928557 (me)
Also this guy has NOT denied the allegation of going around shitting people.
>>103924658 (OP) is 100% MTD, say hi.
Anonymous No.103928750 >>103928998
>>103928488
>>103924948
Anonymous No.103928961 >>103929078
>>103928488
>Noone has said otherwise
NTA, but a lot of people on this board were talking as if the talents weren't getting paid at all
Anonymous No.103928998 >>103929471
>>103928750
a) Cope
b) I don't hate her, and I don't know that she is involved for sure, hence I left 'allegations' out of quotation marks because that what they are, allegations, rrats.
c) This only kinda addresses point 5
d) The "they should have known/noticed" argument is for all talents, Ironmouse gets the brunt of it because she is the face of the company. Personally, I find Mel to be the most likely most-involved talent in the scheme.
Anonymous No.103929078
>>103928961
Was mostly talking about itt there but fair, but they're also either retarded, tourists, uneducated shistirrers, or a combination of the above.
Anonymous No.103929471 >>103929514 >>103929711 >>103929843
>>103928998
fine I'll give a longer response because you seem honest in your beliefs about this where a lot of anons don't
with non-payment, keep in mind that it wasn't just the talent, it was tens of artists as well who all weren't paid for 9 months but didn't say anything publicly until it exploded. that should give you an idea of how much trust there was in the company even from people who hadn't personally experienced a lot of support from them. so talents mouse and michi, who first hand had a lot of non-monetary help from vshojo for a long time up until issues started, would trust them enough to go a long time without being paid
this also explains why current talent weren't talking to each other about non-payment, it has nothing to do with NDAs. they thought it was only them that had missed payments, if they knew it was systemic this would have come out way sooner. every single one of them who spoke at length about the blowup had said that they didn't know the others were in the same boat
with former talents not talking about it, they just wanted to put it behind them as well as they knew that mtd was turning all of them against each other and didn't want to have to deal with that. silver already felt slandered and knew she wouldn't get anywhere because gun had been awful to her personally, vei walked away because she had stability with soda, nyan and mouse's friendship had been fucked up by mtd but nyan also didn't want to hurt mouse by putting the company in a bad light because mouse relied on the company more than anybody else
when it comes to mel, originally everything negative about her was rightfully being dismissed as mtd shitstirring after he was caught /here/ red handed a few days after the first bombshell, but even those who wanted to believe her like myself are now extremely skeptical because none of the others are talking about her besides zen wishing her good luck in restarting streaming. she still could be entirely innocent considering that apek was obviously excellent at hiding things and manipulating others (also remember, people have lived with serial killers and had no fucking idea. it happens), but clearly the other talents aren't showing any trust publicly right now and that's a bad sign
Anonymous No.103929514 >>103929600
>>103929471
Not that Anon, but writing isn't the same as speaking. Please learn to break up your writing into separate sentences and paragraphs. This is painful.
Anonymous No.103929600 >>103929624
>>103929514
they are paragraphs, four of them and a sentence up top. I prefer using "reddit spacing" between paragraphs normally because yes that's easier to read but I've been bitched out here before for it so I stopped doing it
Anonymous No.103929617
>>103924658 (OP)
Classic.
Anonymous No.103929624 >>103929639
>>103929600
English sentences begin with the first letter of the first word capitalized.
Anonymous No.103929639 >>103929685 >>103929843
>>103929624
you're the first person I've ever seen complaining about the formatting of any post I've ever made on this board so I'll be kindly disregarding you, thanks
Anonymous No.103929685
>>103929639 (me)
besides the paragraph separation thing, shouldn't have to clarify but clearly you're a stickler about dumb shit and it's pulling away from any real conversation
Anonymous No.103929711 >>103929843
>>103929471
>you seem honest in your beliefs
He's a /pol/nigger, you're just wasting your time.
Anonymous No.103929843
>>103929471
>with non-payment...
I can understnad the logic behind it, but I find it very unlikely both talents and artists were all so trusting and retarded that they didn't mention payment issues to each other until, presumably, early this year. A quarter, I can maybe accept, half a year+? Absolutely not. I want to attribute this to stupidity rather than malice (ie from the company pulling even more shady shit, certain talents/artists benefitting from prolonging/hiding the situation), but it'd require a lot of stupidity.
>this also explains
For me it doesn't, even if I trust my employer/coworker/"friend", I would still talk about missed payments to others in the same circle. Of course these are women so that may play a role.
>silver etc
Actually brings up a good example of bts collusion of certain talents and exclusion of others, even if caused by mtd. Another example would be the nuxtaku drama, and how they collectively shat on him even after he'd gotten approval from their management, to cover some shady shit Vshojo and some top talents were involved in. Reminder that Mel was involved in some calls there as well. I can't believe that mtd was such an expert manipulator and/or the girls as so easily manipulated that these were all caused by him.
>when it comes to mel
She's the one from Vshojo I liked the most (due to her fapping streams), but the evidence that came out the past few weeks (dating/living with the COO, selling their hoise/buying a new one and moving to Japan), along with, as you said, the lack of mention and support from the other talents, has me nearly convinced she was involved. Unfortunate, really, though not necessarily surprising.
>>103929711
>/pol/nigger
I don't think I've visited pol more than a handful of times in the decade I've been on this site, what makes you think I'm from there, troll?
>>103929639
Tbf, capitalising would've helped but it's fine, that anon is exaggerating a bit.
Anonymous No.103929948 >>103930117 >>103932720
>>103926386
>And what, exactly, makes that clear?
Vshojo has three levels of staff. the founding three C-level officers, a bunch of ironmouse mods who double as critical vshojo staff, and then people like haigai who are basically just contractors on permanent retainer. It is difficult to imagine things have been going on with the company for so long that also remained hidden from panini and roxy and everyone else who works for vshojo on paper but works only for ironmouse in reality. Even people like loutlot the "JP CEO" spent more time mastering ironmouse MVs than actually managing other talents.
Anonymous No.103930117 >>103930219
>>103929948
only roxy was a mouse mod
Anonymous No.103930219 >>103930318
>>103930117
all three were salaried vshojo staff who were paid collectively by every talent in the company and just happened to do all of their work for mouse (eventually loutlot also did mixing for those 2 songs henya did before long ligma, maybe he would have done more, but after that it was back to just mouse)
Anonymous No.103930222
>>103924658 (OP)
>My responsibility was limited to technology and marketing under the approval of the board.
He is all but admitting that VShojo execs greenlit his /vt/ astroturfing.
Anonymous No.103930318 >>103930353
>>103930219
Panini and Roxy were managers for multiple members and loutlot ran a whole branch
Anonymous No.103930353 >>103931360
>>103930318
do you have any evidence of activities supporting this, or only words on paper?
Anonymous No.103931360
>>103930353
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTzoh0wAPsI&t=8892s
Roxy was Mata's manager
Anonymous No.103932677
>>103928488
>NDAs banning talks about payments/salaries are illegal and unenforceable everywhere that matters, every adult (should) knows this
>(should)
Your ideals are not reality. Most people are just going to play nice so as not to start trouble, regardless.
Anonymous No.103932715
>>103924658 (OP)
Now that mountaindew dropped this google dockey, it is confirmed that he is preparing for this fallout in advance and knew the persons to point. Who are the people that he will drag into this legal hell?
Anonymous No.103932720
>>103929948
>everyone else who works for vshojo on paper but works only for ironmouse in reality
This is schizo within schizo
Anonymous No.103933578
>>103925561
>he's been emailing the talents explaining they can't afford to declare bankruptcy unless .. the talents give him more money
This doesn't make any sense, because VShojo was funded by VC. It's pretty rare that a company went under and the inversors are not hunting him for the chance of getting something back. It makes me thing that the missing money was used to pay the penalty to the VC and get them out of his ass. After that the talents didn't have barely any chance to get nothing in return.
Anonymous No.103933895
>>103924726
He did go a little bit into that but he deflected by saying that he was lied to about the actual reasons why certain talents left and that it impacted his opinions on them.
Anonymous No.103933934
>>103924919
Hey, why not cut out the middle man?
Anonymous No.103934354 >>103934490 >>103935765 >>103935953 >>103960818
Gunwun’s pwobabwy gonna twy to kiww himsewf
Anonymous No.103934490
>>103934354
bold of you to assume that he hasn't already fled to a non-extradition country with all the money
Anonymous No.103934524
>>103924847
>Then the IRS and FBI are going to lose in the court of public opinion
Melody doesn't work for a trillion dollar Hollywood studio do you think the IRS cares about fan backlash on Twitch?
Anonymous No.103935765
>>103934354
Why if he supposedly had exclusive access to the money and therefore has all of it rn
Anonymous No.103935953 >>103935982
>>103934354
Why are you talking like that?
Anonymous No.103935982
>>103935953
Sometimes I’m annoying for fun. It isn’t my best quality
Anonymous No.103936085
>>103924658 (OP)
So tl;dr is that he got cucked out of a company he founded, he doesn't mention his sexpesting at all and it's everyone else's fault BUT he has his near worthless logs backed up to help anybody with their investigation (forcing sexpest victims to get back in contact with him)
Lol
Anonymous No.103936129 >>103937460
It’s pretty funny that some of the more outlandish shittalking we got up to about Vshojo on this board just ended up being true
Anonymous No.103937428
>>103928488
>NDAs banning talks about payments/salaries are illegal and unenforceable everywhere that matters, every adult (should) knows this, they have no excuse.

They are unenforceable, but it's like Non-Competes. Most are unenforceable, but many people follow them, because they either don't know better, or they don't want to waste time and money with a legal situation, or they simply do not want to have beef with a company that can fuck you over in other ways (e.g. use their influence to soft-black-list you, by ruining your reputation behind the scenes)
Anonymous No.103937460 >>103937535 >>103937581 >>103937931 >>103939097 >>103945521 >>103961718 >>103961969 >>103968102
>>103936129
My only cope is that at the very least VShojo's fall is not a proof that "talent first" doesn't work, it's just proof that VShojo wasn't what they said they were. They went broke, even though they took 100%.
Anonymous No.103937535
>>103937460
All that Vshojo’s “Talent First” ad campaign proves is that you probably shouldn’t spend a cent on trying Own Anonymous Epic Style when you’re trying to run a business. I was amazed by how much money they were willing to spend purely just for /vt/ catalog real estate
Anonymous No.103937581 >>103938662 >>103938794 >>103942740 >>103950989
>>103937460
they didn't start by taking 100%. they took the money because the venture capital funds ran out and they couldn't raise anymore. the issue was that it was operating at a loss. the problem is trying to build a group brand with funds and still try and take less overall of a cut is a losing strategy, but they also know that you can't get talents that are already successful to agree to the kinds of terms that would make it profitable because unless they are vested into it, building a brand they don't own does not seem like a good investment
Anonymous No.103937931
>>103937460
Anonymous No.103938662 >>103938884 >>103939232
>>103937581
It's also funny that since this happened it's just been story after story of stupid projects that never got off the ground and failed that are just money sinks. Geega talked at length about this a couple days ago and they'd throw parties all the time but you wouldn't even know they were VShojo parties because they didn't advertise, didn't do any presentations at them didn't shill merch, none of that.
Anonymous No.103938794 >>103938909
>>103937581
BS. He operated at a loss and with a "investors will buy" mentality that is absolutely ill. You don't do that Tokyo Metro BS if you see red, you try to counterbalance shit around.
He wanted to operate in red with people supporting his dive. Only Japs are that retarded.
Anonymous No.103938884 >>103939232
>>103938662
That is insane lol
Anonymous No.103938909
>>103938794
There's this thing called the passage of time anon. They weren't broke day 1. They didn't start day 1 by taking talent's money. This happened after money had run out.
Anonymous No.103938967
>>103924962
He was desperate…
Anonymous No.103939097
>>103937460
It does work, but the cost of it can be expensive in terms of staffing (not just VShojo stealing them blind)
Also goes to say, that VShojo did some stupidbly wrong mistakes, which I can't say if it's just techbros being retarded (as always) or maliciously doing it. It goes both ways.
Some, like GEEGA, have mentioned that they would have projects, not consult the girls about it, tell them later and when they were pointed out by them that it was a stupid idea, they went "uhm, yeah you are right" and just literally drop the project with the investment already made.
The heads also sucked at securing deals directly addressed to them for some fucking reason.
They didn't have an organizational chart, which adds up with what MTD says of him not knowing what exactly was his role.
And obviously, their stupid behavior of trying to up Hololive without understanding their market hurt them bad.
No fault to the talents, since I think both NOVA and the Idol Group are pretty fun and lovable girls, but can't deny they were huge investments with no return in an already fucked situation. They basically let them into the fire.
Anonymous No.103939232 >>103939295
>>103938662
>>103938884
She had to basically twist their arms to sell merch at their convention booths
Anonymous No.103939295 >>103939336 >>103939532
>>103939232
The impression I get from what she's said since leaving is that she worked there almost entirely out of morbid curiosity past a certain point
Anonymous No.103939336
>>103939295
Probably, also her friends where there. Much like Matara, she wanted to try and work it out with them, without realizing that the company was in such a shitshow
The part of the conventions was really funny
Anonymous No.103939532
>>103939295
People like being in groups, especially if they're with friends. She was friends with everyone in VShojo and she liked being with them which is why she probably stayed as long as she did. She even talked about when she was leaving how she felt like she had to reassure everyone that her leaving had nothing to do with negatively with anyone she worked with.
Anonymous No.103941331
So, where's apek? When's the one person that actually knows him going to speak?
Anonymous No.103942569
>>103924658 (OP)
Anonymous No.103942740 >>103942801
>>103937581
>they didn't start by taking 100%. they took the money because the venture capital funds ran out and they couldn't raise anymore.
I doubt they started operating at a profit and only started spending like drunken sailors when the investment money was secured. I don't think VShojo was doing that well from the start. I want to know where Apek got $250,000 for a down payment on his condo.
Anonymous No.103942801
>>103942740
>I want to know where Apek got $250,000 for a down payment on his condo.
melody made over a million her first year
Anonymous No.103942898
>>103924847
Yes yes. I'm sure the fucking IRS, the most universally hated US government institution, is sweating over taking a PR hit over prosecuting a vtuber agency.

If anything this might make peoples respect of them go up, if only an inch.
Anonymous No.103945019
>>103924658 (OP)
Who
Anonymous No.103945521
>>103937460
VAllure is talents first and it seems to be working well for them
Anonymous No.103947546
At this point, I'm just surprised that there still no one in cuffs after this massive crime.
Anonymous No.103947972 >>103948278 >>103951383
>>103926556
>Notice how she never complained about not getting paid
Anonymous No.103948234
>>103924658 (OP)
Every single corporation founded by millennials is cringy as shit from facebook to whatever this is. Daniel Pena sits on you. In fact that's probably why boomers dab on their gen y spawn so easily. I dread the day in another few years when Gen Z ceos start to be a thing and we get shit like "Fr Ong Corporation" and other such garbage.
Anonymous No.103948278
>>103947972
What a gross voice, can't listen to it sorry. Also
>going to bat for a literal prostitute with a boyfriend
Literally just find any woman and make her your gf and stop being such a pathetic loser.
Anonymous No.103948386 >>103948981
>>103926475
>Even if evidence slaps you in the face,
Ok, then provide some? The voices in your head, and your seething anger do not, in fact, constitute evidence.

This is the part where you tell me to educate myself, and it's not your job to spoonfeed me. I also left a space between paragraphs so you can just respond "reddit spacing" and ignore anything else in the post.
Anonymous No.103948981 >>103949089 >>103949434
>>103948386
This is the part where i tell you to kys. Whatever whiteknighting you do would not save liar rat from all of these. She is as culpable as the founders and accomplices. She cannot keep a lid on all the rotten lies that she built up.
Anonymous No.103949089
>>103948981
>no evidence
i accept your concession
Anonymous No.103949434
>>103948981
>She is as culpable as the founders and accomplices
All your doing is exposing how little you, and several other people in this thread, understand about how a talent agency works. You seem to think the talents are on the board of directors or something and have all this power, and are the first to be informed at any small change in the companies finances or plans.
In truth, it's exact fucking opposite. As independent contractors, the talents are literally the single last link in chain of information. The lowest level employees have more information on what's going on in the company than the talents do. The talents are the easiest people to keep in the dark and fed bullshit because of the amount of contacts and restrictions the company can put on them.
And, as I predicted, your evidence consists purely of schizo seethe.
Anonymous No.103950989 >>103956062
>>103937581
>the issue was that it was operating at a loss.
They shouldn't have been.
For what VShojo needed to do, it should have been really easy to keep the lights on.
The problem is that they spent money like it was never gonna run out.

They had, at one time, at least 25 employees, many of whom the talents never knew about or spoke with. How does this operation need that many people? What were they doing?
Anonymous No.103951383 >>103960847
>>103947972
Sorry but even for Mel that's suspiciously nervous
Took her over a month to say anything, the only one to take a break over it
Doesn't pass the smell test
Anonymous No.103956062 >>103959084 >>103960967
>>103950989
It always should have been a problem since they claimed to take almost nothing and only give to the talents. Where does the funding come from, in theory, according to their business plan? Even one employee is a questionable presence needing to be justified.
Anonymous No.103957295
>>103925130
all his shit was cringe, never liked him back then, never liked him now
Anonymous No.103957901 >>103958104 >>103959154
i love how subhumans want so bad to mouse to take the blame even when someone comes out saying he will spill the beans and show proof that only gunrun and apek had total control over money.
Just accept your defeat and jump to the next schizo rrat.
Anonymous No.103958104
>>103957901
Thank you for your bump.
Anonymous No.103959084
>>103956062
50% cut of merch
Anonymous No.103959154
>>103957901
If you think there is a zero percent chance that any talent was unaware of misuse of funds, let alone the face of the company, you are retarded.

Nobody is saying they know this is a certain fact. But being as close to Gunrun and the executives that she was, having by far the largest amount of financial connection to the company, and being the one to blow the whistle merely months before the company was about to collapse, should at least make it a possibility.
Anonymous No.103959830
>>103924847
The feds don't operate like that, there won't be a trial because everyone is just going to accept a plea deal
This isn't your local prosecutor the feds will seemingly ignore you for years and then indict you dropping 5k pages covering even the tiniest details, you used the money to buy a sandwich at a subway? They have the girl that served you as a witness
Anonymous No.103960419 >>103960567
>>103924847
This is someone in Vshojo who will be investigated in the future and is coping hard here.
Say hi to the courtroom, /vt/.
Anonymous No.103960489
>>103924658 (OP)
mowtendoo didn't kill himself
Anonymous No.103960554
>>103925118
>>103925350
she won't fuck you li'l bro
Anonymous No.103960567 >>103961507
>>103960419
I unironically think this mowtendoo guy is the OP of this thread and was initially arguing with people after he posted it. Some of the early coping in this thread sounds really defensive and nervous.

And we know VShojo execs cares enough about /here/ to spend actual money shitting up the board.
Anonymous No.103960690
>>103926556
stop noticing
Anonymous No.103960818
>>103934354
*mossad will assassinate him
ftfy
Anonymous No.103960847
>>103951383
I'm glad at least a few anons see through her bullshit
Anonymous No.103960967 >>103961481
>>103956062
According to the one guy who was supposedly being offered to buy VShojo, they were taking in about $500K yearly from merch.
Now, this company is entirely remote. Which means the only *necessary* cost of operation is employee pay.
It wouldn't be glamorous, but 500K should be able to pay a livable salary to a small team.
Anonymous No.103961481
>>103960967
BS. You still need to advertise and organize events, otherwise where is the growth to make that merch keep selling?
Having said that, the embezzelment is pathetically obvious as there are literally “unspecified” costs everywhere rather than a clear cut list of them.
I will not be surprised they did giant stunts like the metro because it was so unbelievably costly no one would question it it wasn’t exact.
Anonymous No.103961507
>>103960567
Think? It’s basically confirmed. Who the hell would argue from him /here/? Even the fans follow the talents, not his ass.
Anonymous No.103961718
>>103937460
Wrong. Unfortunately for any other talent first company-to-be, both the Vshojo talents and its staff wee saying the correct things (ie the things some fans wanted to hear) throughout the years (eg talent freedom, keeping ip, generous cuts etc), so now, anytime a group/company/corp tries to make the same promises "but for realsies" this time, they will inevitably be compared to Vshojo, and have a harder time gaining trust and growth.
Anonymous No.103961969
>>103937460
What an absolute retarded corposlave thing to say. 50% profit split is absolutely bearable in many other business, but you need to actually act as such, not spend like a retard and embezzle funds.
Even taking 100% from the talents they would have been in the red with their absolutely ridicolous expenses.
Sadly Vtubing is riddled in corposlaves such as you so retards will parrot “you need to enslave your talents” to corpos.
Anonymous No.103963426 >>103963632
If this event of vshojo imploding with no one getting behind bars would set an awful precedent for the whole vtubingsphere. Retards will do bolder moves because they think they can get away with it scot free just like the liar founders and accomplices in vshojo.
Anonymous No.103963632 >>103964442 >>103965931
>>103963426
Depends where Gunrun is hiding. MTD passed the buck majestically here and I’m sure Apex il preparing his own defense. MTD can’t be got for harrassment or doxxing because it requires more than just testimony.
He’s a faggot but he just got away with it. 2 possible fuckers left.
Anonymous No.103964442 >>103965346
>>103963632
Unless other people drop their google dockey, no one is in the clear of this malicious cover up.
Anonymous No.103965346 >>103967344
>>103964442
dropping dockys is stupid and not legal defense. You call your lawyer and let him handling it. What MTD did here was trying to save his face with people, he still deep in shit.
Anonymous No.103965931 >>103966136 >>103966565
>>103963632
Apek fucked off from the entire planet. You will never see him publicly talk about this, at least no time soon, if you ever see him again at all. I think it was Geega that recently said that one of them had already left the country, and my money's on him being the one.
Anonymous No.103966136 >>103966309
>>103965931
The funniest thing is that for a LONGGGGGGGGG time no one in vsj+ or everywhere knew anything about him, he was always this shadow presence, no one even knew his real name. NOW that the company exploded we know why
Anonymous No.103966309
>>103966136
Yeah, if anything, him not saying anything is consistent. Dude had no online presence anyway. Which does paint him as the shadow mastermind to anyone that is aware of him.
Anonymous No.103966554
>>103924847
>Then the IRS and FBI are going to lose in the court of public opinion
Underage or third worlder? Call it.
Anonymous No.103966565
>>103965931
He's in Japan at Melody's apartment as he can't and won't have anything on his name so he won't leave any trace of his foul existence. Why do you think she was the only one to take a one month break instead of pityfarming lmao
Anonymous No.103967246
>>103926479
he was literally on this website the day of the explosion. posted something like "what if it turned out mtd didn't do anything illegal and just was a really big dick to nyan and aethel?"

It was super funny to find him anxiety posting the same place he was being PAID to astroturf a month ago lmao
Anonymous No.103967344 >>103968436
>>103965346
Anon, those are pretty serious recipes. He is so sure he's out of this shit he literally posted it.
Anonymous No.103967990
>>103924847
Dude it’s the government, the public having a low opinion on them is normal and they never give a shit about what the public wants
Anonymous No.103968102
>>103937460
The issue was that VShojo was doing the epic game store tactic of poaching popular things and forcing their way onto the market, except epic games had the unreal engine and fortnite to fall back on for income, Vshojo didn’t have a fall back.
Anonymous No.103968436 >>103971264
>>103967344
like i said, you give this shit to your lawyer. The judge will not scroll through twitter to find out about your docky. He also exposed everything he knows and makes easy to counter his lawyers. That's why everyone else is quiet and not going around spill the beans.
Anonymous No.103969068
>>103925228
That sounds like something you'd do if you're high as hell on coke
Anonymous No.103971264
>>103968436
I see, you are seething he's not getting incriminated. Gunrun? Apex?