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Anonymous No.103933565 >>103933607 >>103933740 >>103934279 >>103934336 >>103934845 >>103935799 >>103935894 >>103937484 >>103938097 >>103939906 >>103940438 >>103940606 >>103940857 >>103941073 >>103941379 >>103942859 >>103943588 >>103946581 >>103954031 >>103956082 >>103963118
Reminder
She knew nothing, she saw nothing, she definitely had no involvement with the pyramid scheme, the anti-holo smear campaign, the fake auditions...
Anonymous No.103933570 >>103935799
NOTHING!
Anonymous No.103933607
>>103933565 (OP)
>anti-holo smear campaign
They were all holo antis. Some were even hired because they spoke on it publicly (Veibae).
Anonymous No.103933740 >>103933846
>>103933565 (OP)
You'd maybe have a point if someone else was the main victim, but they stole the most money from her.
Anonymous No.103933751
>Mumei just enjoyers
Anonymous No.103933846 >>103933885 >>103947541
>>103933740
They stole money from everyone, but only mouse has concerts and MVs and disney IRLs to show for it. Mouse is fine with the company having debt because the company debt was used to pay for her talent managers like roxy and panini, for her meet and greet roomba, and for her music videos and art assets. Even if vshojo owes her a million dollars, the company spent far more than that on her concerts and MVs and mouse herself is clear of all that debt even though it was spent on her and at her direction.
Anonymous No.103933885 >>103933929 >>103954324
>>103933846
vshojo wasn't paying for that shit
Anonymous No.103933929 >>103933964
>>103933885
Where do you think 11 million dollars went in 2 years? Even if MTD tried to snort it all he would have overdosed long before. In reality it all got burned on shit like candypop and that one live actor video with half of the ex-roosterteeth roster.
Anonymous No.103933964 >>103934068
>>103933929
the ridiculous number of staff they had
Anonymous No.103934068 >>103934214 >>103935294
>>103933964
And what exactly were those staff used on? Was it upgrading zentreyas tts software? Helping recruit japanese-speaking talents for nazuna to collab with? Doing auditions? Or was it going to disneyland with mouse? Running a modded project zomboid server because mouse wanted to play on a project zomboid server twice? Running a modded 7days server for the same reason?
Anonymous No.103934214 >>103934293
>>103934068
playing fortnite and doing cocaine at convention parties
Anonymous No.103934279 >>103938807 >>103941144
>>103933565 (OP)
And none of the talents were doing cocaine, only the staff
Anonymous No.103934293 >>103934381
>>103934214
I repeat with emphasis. 10 million dollars converts to slightly under 100 kilos of cocaine. Over 2 years. MTD could drown in that and there would still be leftover cocaine to sell back to cover their debts.
Anonymous No.103934336
>>103933565 (OP)
everything you wrote is 100% correct, *clap clap* next thread
Anonymous No.103934381
>>103934293
as well as the 30~ staff and whatever gunrun and apek were paying themselves
Anonymous No.103934845
>>103933565 (OP)
How many backshots
Anonymous No.103935294 >>103935410 >>103935516
>>103934068
>vshojo wasted millions of dollars giving six figure salaries to gunrun's buddies? nah actually it must have been mouse wasting it all on a video game server
do you have any idea how little those things cost my dude? what are you doing
Anonymous No.103935410 >>103935666
>>103935294
People were hired for the sole job of running a server, for each server. Mouse was in regular contact with each of them and spent hours complaining every stream for the ~week she used each server where she was constantly pinging the server host and asking to implement a pile of new modpacks and then complaining about the server manager when the new mods caused compatibility issues and they werent solved instantly.
Anonymous No.103935516 >>103935666 >>103936035
>>103935294
A bunch of it probably went to Gunrun's buddies, sure. But lets not pretend that Ironnmouse was some peasant living in squalor, she basically was treated like royalty in Vshojo. And all those fucking outfits and help she got wasn't cheap either.
Anonymous No.103935666 >>103954620
>>103935410
no they hired fugi to do other shit and he set up game servers (poorly) in his free time
>>103935516
vshojo talents paid for their own outfits with the exception that new debuts were given a budget for about one model and a few assets
Anonymous No.103935799
>>103933565 (OP)
Yeah she trusted the guy and considered him a friend. Do you know what betrayal means anon? You can trust someone and get fucked over. She was talking about how he accompanied her to events like he was her dad or something. Also ironic you use a clip channel for your post that she literally just threatened during her last stream with legal action because of their clickbait going too far. But maybe you're that same ESL piece of shit.
>>103933570
And this is from the beginning of 2023, everything went down over a year and a half later. That was before the first three talents left, she even wrote a letter to Silver where she showered her with praise. No idea why you're trying to use this as evidence of something.
Anonymous No.103935894 >>103936424 >>103936550
>>103933565 (OP)
All vshojo tubers saying they haven't been paid by vshojo for months or even 1+ year was an insta red flag to me. There is no way they all just kept on streaming/doing merch for vshojo and not getting paid for that long. Like bruh, show me anyone IRL that would work for a company 1+ year without getting paid a single month. And also the fact that the charity organization that Vshojo didn't pay a half of mil to in the name of mouse never spoke about it/tweeted about it? Nobody new/was informed? Looks more like a coordinated ditch and forget done by them, and Nyanners/Veibae/Silver leaving back then and getting smeared for it were just not the part of inner clique.
Anonymous No.103936035
>>103935516
>A bunch of it probably went to Gunrun's buddies, sure.
Anon literally all of it went to Gunrun's buddies. There is no "probably". A few people invested a bunch of money into Vshojo and Gunrun gave it all to his friends. Then he started to steal money from the talents so he could give that to his friends too.
>But lets not pretend that Ironnmouse was some peasant living in squalor
Mouse being successful is not a valid justification for stealing her money, Justin. Enjoy jail.
Anonymous No.103936424 >>103937108 >>103937113 >>103946408
>>103935894
The merch payments being backed up was explained as an issue with changing fulfillment companies in Q3 2024, after about 6 months people were strung along with a wave of "it will all be fixed soon just 2 more weeks". Most talents werent fine with this, but they had varying levels of willingness to rock the boat about it. The wave of 2025 talents leaving starting with mata and then geega and zen can basically be summarized as least Agreeable talents on the 5 Trait scale who were the most willing to stand up to fight the company on their own behalf, followed by kuro and kson who both mentioned that they had already made plans to leave vshojo before mouse dropped the nuke about the charity money.
Separately, Mouse killed the company shortly after she found out about the 500k charity unpaid, because at that point any future paychecks she receives are a federal crime for defrauding charity. Prior to that she was fine working for a company that simply failed to pay her coworkers and company contractors and 3rd party artists.
Anonymous No.103936550
>>103935894
>There is no way they all just kept on streaming/doing merch for vshojo and not getting paid for that long.
Most of them were preparing to leave and/or seeking legal council. It's not like they weren't still making money from Twitch and YT so they weren't completely fucked and had the time. Froot and Haruka probably didn't even know they weren't getting paid however since they weren't even streaming much less doing sponsors.
>And also the fact that the charity organization that Vshojo didn't pay a half of mil to in the name of mouse never spoke about it/tweeted about it?
Mouse and Connor have raised millions for them and they've basically used Mouse as their poster girl and even had her speak about her condition before congress. They have every reason to be patient with her and not try to cancel her on twitter. They may have even said something to her in private which kicked this all off.
Anonymous No.103937108
>>103936424
>Prior to that she was fine working for a company that simply failed to pay her coworkers and company contractors and 3rd party artists
the talents didn't know that each other and artists weren't being paid. you're trying to frame mouse but this happened to all the talents, almost all of them told artists to contact them if they hadn't been paid
Anonymous No.103937113 >>103940061
>>103936424
>Prior to that she was fine working for a company that simply failed to pay her coworkers
Anon most of them were really not talking about it with each other until Mouse really started to snoop around. They were too fucking terrified of those NDAs. Mouse probably thought at first it was just her specifically getting fucked over since they more than likely took over a million from her and that's not including the charity money.
>and company contractors and 3rd party artists.
They purposely fed her bullshit about those artists hating her for a reason.
But also why does it always come down to all being Mouse's responsibility with posters like yourself? She's not literally some queen of vtubing who bares the responsibility of all under her banner or some shit. Ultimately she was the one that broke the silence though so credit where credit is due. Zen, Geega, Matara and the four that left previously didn't say shit until she did.
Anonymous No.103937142
>AND ANOTHER THING ABOUT THE VSHOJO SITUATION!!!
Anonymous No.103937178
Mouse stole the money. She's chilling in Cuba with Tupac, Elvis, and Kurt Cobain. #wheresthemoneymouse
Anonymous No.103937197
it's sad that mousespergs have to resort to pretending to be retarded and blame mouse for stealing her own money because they can no longer pretend that she's botting
Anonymous No.103937336 >>103937697
Some things that I fail to understand is why did she open another charity fund?
>my company that I shilled for years stole my money, better ask these suckers for money, AGAIN
Why didn't she donate half of her share?
Anonymous No.103937484
>>103933565 (OP)
the whole company was rotten from back to front. I think Henya is the only one I trust wasn't in on the whole scheme.
Anonymous No.103937697
>>103937336
she didn't. 1st subathon wasn't for charity, 2nd subathon half was to charity and vshojo did donate it as they were supposed to, 3rd subathon was half to charity and that's the one vshojo stole. she didn't get her share from it either, so they stole 500k from her and 500k from charity
Anonymous No.103937975 >>103938094
>be vshojo talent
>aggressively and loudly dickride the company as often as possible
>do this for years
>do or say nothing about two talents being publicly thrown under the bus
>suddenly IM video
>complete silence from anyone else for about 12-24 hours until kson's stream
>kson, biggest shill of them all, can't get her story straight about what she knew and when
>suddenly now everyone is coming out with their own never-before-hinted-at sob stories
>Mel, the talent most blatantly involved in behind-the-scenes stuff has been relatively mum about the whole thing, even now

Even if, somehow, none of them knew anything about what was going on, you have to admit the sequence of events is suspicious at the very least.

>but muh NDA
NDA's do not protect blatantly illegal actions such as embezzlement and fraud.
Anonymous No.103938094 >>103938370
>>103937975
for mel yes it's suspicious, the rest no. all of the glazing of the company was before they stopped being paid for longer than could be considered an accident
Anonymous No.103938097 >>103941208
>>103933565 (OP)
I think Doki and this bitch are just pity farmers who are huge pieces of shit backstage but no one wants to talk about it to avoid blowback from bullying these retards
Anonymous No.103938370 >>103939304 >>103942418 >>103942993
>>103938094
Mel being involved is a 100% certainty. Nobody whose boyfriend is a CEO of a company who fucks up this hard this fast is clueless about this. We now also have more evidence she was the one who fucked over Nux, regardless of how you feel about the guy. She is as slimy and conniving as they come.
kson being involved is likely, as someone as money-driven, and with as expensive tastes as her going 10 months without getting paid is nowhere in the realm of possibility - 80% chance she at least knew funds were being mismanaged, and that's being generous.
Mouse is the Girl Who Cried Muh Illness, Muh Victim-hood one too many times. As the talent directly involved with the charity, and thus either her or her direct management team/orbiters were in semi-frequent contact with the IDF. The idea that the IDF at no point asked where the money was is possible, but unlikely. Also, her being the one to blow the whistle and then start another charity drive - it glows. It sucks to say, but it smells the same as an FBI honeypot op.
Everyone else is up in the air. Michi and Kuro should have know better or at least seen the signs given their experience.
Anonymous No.103938470 >>103938728 >>103939813
>be /vt/ poster
>be retarded
>aggressively insult vshojo talents as often as possible
>do this for years
>make a lot of false assumptions based on shit children in /#/ made up
>suddenly ironmouse video
>kson talks about it on stream immediately as she was live when it was uploaded
>i didn't know that because i was harvesting bananas on a filipino beach at the time
>kson then makes a dozen videos and two large blog posts documenting the situation in great detail but i don't know japanese so i just post "she can't get her story straight"
>suddenly everyone that gunrun stole money from double checks their finances and realizes gunrun stole their money
>why didn't their bank tell them that gunrun stole their money? that's suspicious. (i never had a bank account i get paid in micrograms of gold dust after each successful banana harvest which i trade for produce with street vendors)
>mel, the talent i have read a lot of rrats about, also got over $100k stolen but i don't know that nobody posted it in /#/ yet

>muh NDA
NDA's don't protect crimes. all the talents have to tell everyone that they got robbed. wait they did that. dunno what i'm mad about here.
Anonymous No.103938728 >>103939162
>>103938470
Gunrun isn't able to pay you anymore, bro. You don't have to do this.
Anonymous No.103938807
>>103934279
Roflmao
Anonymous No.103939162
>>103938728
>noooo don't correct my lies
choke on my balls retard
Anonymous No.103939304
>>103938370
what's suspicious about Mel is that other talents aren't publicly talking to or about her. zero evidence otherwise she was involved and no a relationship is not evidence when people unknowingly live with serial killers
zero evidence that kson knew
zero evidence that mouse knew. the new charity drive is through tiltify so no one can touch it and doesn't mean shit unless you want to specify what the issue is
I think I remember her saying the idf did contact her this year asking about it, around the time she started doing her finances herself
your entire post is vibes based, if you want to accuse the talents of crimes or being complicit you need evidence, not your feelings about them
Anonymous No.103939813 >>103939869 >>103939904 >>103942143
>>103938470
>mousecuck
>extreme ESL
Every fucking time KEK
Anonymous No.103939869 >>103941292
>>103939813
where's the esl?
Anonymous No.103939904 >>103942264
>>103939813
i'm a native english speaker and i don't watch mouse, mr. kek.
Anonymous No.103939906 >>103940233
>>103933565 (OP)
So could sb do a qrd on current status of the drama?
Anonymous No.103939964 >>103940006 >>103961649
>"I don't trust we're being told the whole story about this."
>"y-you're brown! Stop insulting my dead corpo!"
Never change, vshojokeks. This place would be boring without you.
Anonymous No.103940006
>>103939964
we don't give a fuck about the corpo, ex-vsj fans are first in line to piss on its grave. there's no evidence that talents besides potentially mel were involved and there's still no direct evidence for her, only that others aren't talking to her
Anonymous No.103940061 >>103940177
>>103937113
>They purposely fed her bullshit about those artists hating her
anon mouse was very willing to eat a lot of bullshit from vshojo to the point that it is frankly preposterous. we know as a fact that nyanners and connor, aethel and connor, and aethel and mouse were in direct communication for years including multiple situations to talk privately, yet mouse doesnt know about the NDA preventing nyanners from talking or about all of the other damning company secrets that nyanners knows but none of the talents in the company do? She's just so innocent and guileless, that ironmouse. A naive child, she is.
Anonymous No.103940177
>>103940061
>mouse talked to nyan but didn't know nyan was under an NDA because nyan didn't tell her
HOLY SHIT that's insane bro what a juicy rrat
Anonymous No.103940233
>>103939906
current status: vshojo/gunrun are being sued by a bunch of people.
Anonymous No.103940438 >>103940472 >>103941471 >>103943294
>>103933565 (OP)
we'll see when there're lawsuits
if there're no lawsuits then they were likely in on it
no lawsuits with this much money and this many people is a fairy tale (scam)
Anonymous No.103940472 >>103940745 >>103940748 >>103943294 >>103959619
>>103940438
they've all spoken about this, gun and apek are in hiding and not responding to lawyer's emails
Anonymous No.103940606
>>103933565 (OP)
>the anti-holo smear campaign
I genuinely learned more about hololive and it's members watching her than anyone else. Even the abandoned auditions were only abandoned to sign ex-holos.
Anonymous No.103940745
>>103940472
Psst, kid, you interested in buying a bridge?
Anonymous No.103940748 >>103941142
>>103940472
Ah, so the moron who admitted to 'mistakenly' spending charity money on Twitter, is also a world-class mastermind of counter-intelligence who can disappear without a trace in a way even Bin Laden couldn't pull off.
How convenient.
Anonymous No.103940857
>>103933565 (OP)
nobody would lie for 500k
Anonymous No.103941073
>>103933565 (OP)
Nah she is complicit along with Melody and all others. They known this for years and with fake smiles kept the charade going. Fuck em.
Anonymous No.103941142 >>103941354
>>103940748
>guy who was breaking the law is now hiding
that's unbelievable...
Anonymous No.103941144
>>103934279
Nyan and Veibae definitely bump
Anonymous No.103941208
>>103938097
Basically
Anonymous No.103941292 >>103941355
>>103939869
ESLchama...
Anonymous No.103941354 >>103941400
>>103941142
If lawyers can't get a response by phone or email, they send someone directly to the party in question's address. If this does not work, the trial begins/continues in absentia, or it escalates to where the feds get involved. Neither has happened yet. No need to hold your breath, either.
Anonymous No.103941355
>>103941292
i accept your concession
Anonymous No.103941379
>>103933565 (OP)
Took the 500k to shush.
Anonymous No.103941400 >>103941471
>>103941354
for the record when the talents have said they can't contact gunrun, they are talking about on discord and shit where they are trying to get info about the merch from him. obviously their lawyers have served him.
Anonymous No.103941471 >>103941546
>>103941400
Then I defer to the kind anon here.
>>103940438
Anonymous No.103941546
>>103941471
you can rest easy then because there are many lawsuits
Anonymous No.103942143
>>103939813
ESL retard calling esl. #things.
Anonymous No.103942264 >>103942287 >>103942316 >>103942567
>>103939904
Sure you do, pancho.
Anonymous No.103942287
>>103942264
simply point out the error then :)
Anonymous No.103942316
>>103942264
please highlight what parts of that original post aren't correct english, if it's blatantly written by someone esl I'm sure that would be an easy task
Anonymous No.103942418
>>103938370
neck yourself TVA chimp
Anonymous No.103942567
>>103942264
we are waiting
Anonymous No.103942859
>>103933565 (OP)
The girls are always and forever victims. They never know anything about anything, even when all of them haven't been paid for nearly a year. This is very normal and so is their lack of reaction until forever-victim mousey posted her "I'm a victim again" video.

Any and all dissension is 100% Gunrun or MTD on 4chan. Veibae said so, so it must be true. And just look at parrot's video. Nearly 80 minutes long, and somehow it almost entirely shows nothing but 4chan talking about Gunrun and only Gunrun.

...Really though, I'd be willing to bet that most Vtubers have doubts about the girls, but not a single one of them is going to say anything publicly. Which is the smart move.
Anonymous No.103942993 >>103943348
>>103938370
The one thing about Michi and Kuro is that they both aren't the sharpest tools in the shed, there's a reason why they were both taken for a ride from two different companies. In the off chance Kuro had a bad feeling in his gut, I'm willing to bet the sole reason why he didn't act out was because Gunrun and Ironmouse technically reached out to bail him out of his tax problem. So there's one conflict there.
Regardless, I still dont think the situation is clear cut with people like Ironmouse or Melody. Mel in particular was involved with the group during its conception phase, there's no way she didn't get a kick from the group growing. As for Ironmouse, she was one of the few remaining OG talents next to Froot and Mel, there's no way she was that distant from the inner workings either as the "queen bee".
Anonymous No.103943147
>*watches the zapruder film*
>"heh, i bet JFK was in on that. always a victim, how convenient. governor connally had to know too"
this is what you guys sound like
Anonymous No.103943294
>>103940438
This is my threshold for it as well. I currently lean towards at least Mel and Mouse being in on it, but if there's no legal action against anyone within a year or so I'll be 99% sure of it.

>>103940472
lol, lmao
Anonymous No.103943348
>>103942993
>there's no way she was that distant from the inner workings either as the "queen bee".
why do you think this besides her being there for a long time? specific reasons. I still haven't seen anything with evidence beyond 'vibes' and that's not good enough to take seriously. and what does 'in on it' entail? like what do you think she knew and when?
Anonymous No.103943565 >>103944977
Yagoo started following Gunrun on linkdin in mid-2024, right when Vshojo ran out of money. He was in on it.
Anonymous No.103943588
>>103933565 (OP)
She dindu nuffin!
Anonymous No.103944977
>>103943565
anons were joking early that the merger was into cover. That would had been the most funny shit ever.
Anonymous No.103945979 >>103946057
I would keep posting that IronLung and Mel were on board with Gunrun, unless there is some sort of litigation that clear them.
Anonymous No.103946057
>>103945979
the only thing you should do is pick up an english textbook KEKAROO
Anonymous No.103946408 >>103946562 >>103946607 >>103948229 >>103948464
>>103936424
>and kson who both mentioned that they had already made plans to leave vshojo before mouse dropped the nuke about the charity money.
I haven't really given a shit about kson for years, but now, after her own admission, I really don't see the appeal.
She admitted, on stream and perhaps it was a slip of the tongue or something, that she was basically willing to be part of the ponzi scheme to sacrifice the dreams of the new jp gen so long as she got paid by the money they'd bring in but all of a sudden it's iron mouse's raising of the charity embezzlement that was "the final straw" for her. That was where she drew the line, not because the company told her that they needed fresh meat for the grinder to pay off the older talents.
It evokes an unpleasant feeling.
Anonymous No.103946562
>>103946408
one thing is bankruptcy the other is actual crime.
Anonymous No.103946581
>>103933565 (OP)
yea sure
Anonymous No.103946607 >>103946844
>>103946408
>she was willing to work for a company that paid their employees but unwilling to work for them anymore after they stopped doing that
that's insane... holy shit..
Anonymous No.103946844 >>103946883 >>103947583 >>103948024 >>103948229
>>103946607
She said it in an odd way. Iirc with some odd hypothetical.
>"They" [admin] might've even had been able to convince me [to stay and get the payout from the ponzi at the expense of the fresh blood] IF it weren't for iron mouse blowing the whistle on the charity theft first
I don't think she meant for it to come out like that or at all. Very dumb thing to say on stream.
Anonymous No.103946883
>>103946844
you might be retarded
Anonymous No.103947541 >>103947675 >>103960013
>>103933846
>They stole money from everyone, but only mouse has concerts and MVs and disney IRLs to show for it. Mouse is fine with the company having debt because the company debt was used to pay for her talent managers like roxy and panini, for her meet and greet roomba, and for her music videos and art assets. Even if vshojo owes her a million dollars, the company spent far more than that on her concerts and MVs and mouse herself is clear of all that debt even though it was spent on her and at her direction.

You guys are still so phenomenally ignorant about the basics of what VShojo even was.

- Panini wasn't 'her' talent manager - she was the company's talent manager. I believe she's part of Mouse's management team now, but that's after she quit the company.
- Mouse (and all of the rest of them) paid for their MVs and solo concerts and stuff themselves.
- Every talent had a manager with the company (ie. Maiko, Roxy). Any other management they had was paid for by them.

Which leaves you with Gunrun and Panini live-streaming a trip to Disneyland with Connor for Mouse's benefit because she can't leave her house, and a fucking iPad on wheels for conventions and award shows, lol. That definitely offsets the over-500k they stole in charity money alone, before you even get to whatever they owe her personally.
Anonymous No.103947583 >>103947927
>>103946844
>they might have been able to convince me that they were a legitimate business IF it weren't for ironmouse making it clear that they were definitely not a legitimate business
what exactly is the problem with that
Anonymous No.103947675 >>103947708
>>103947541
>Which leaves you with Gunrun and Panini live-streaming a trip to Disneyland with Connor for Mouse's benefit
funny thing there is, connor paid for the actual passes, including gunrun / panini / bodyguard
Anonymous No.103947708 >>103947940 >>103947966
>>103947675
mouse paid actually
Anonymous No.103947927 >>103948003 >>103948186
>>103947583
>I probably would've stayed and perpetuated the scummy business practice of a dying company that preyed on the new talents so long as I got my money and would've gotten away with it too if not for that meddling kid, iron mouse, bringing the house down before I could get my pound of flesh extracted from the new girls
How many of the new talents did she lure in despite the knowledge that the place was destined to fall?
Anonymous No.103947940 >>103948097
>>103947708
Mouse can't pay if it were her supporters and sponsors paying for it. So technically its the supporters and sponsors fault.
Anonymous No.103947966 >>103948097
>>103947708
they both paid. That's why both spammed mobile trash sponsors for months.
Anonymous No.103948003
>>103947927
old talents weren't told who the new talents were no matter how many times they were asked
non-payment started after the auditions were closed
Anonymous No.103948024 >>103948154
>>103946844
>[to stay and get the payout from the ponzi at the expense of the fresh blood]
Why is this part in brackets? Did you hallucinate this part anon-kun?
Anonymous No.103948097
>>103947940
>>103947966
connor does sponsors to pay for non-mouse IRLs and events like the RV trip, mouse pays for everything but souvenirs on her IRLs
Anonymous No.103948154 >>103949270
>>103948024
reasonable implications and extrapolations
Anonymous No.103948186
>>103947927
What "pound of flesh", exactly, did you think the existing VShojo talent were going to get from the new 3view gen that was supposed to debut for a company that was bleeding money?

Never mind that the auditions leading to that new gen happened chronologically before it seems talent started not getting paid what they were owed, and were being given empty promises that it was coming.
Anonymous No.103948229 >>103950524
>>103946408
>>103946844
Wow, this smells like shit. It's probably because you pulled it out of your ass.
Anonymous No.103948464
>>103946408
neck yourself mizutranni
Anonymous No.103949270
>>103948154
so you made it up then. ok
Anonymous No.103950524 >>103950667
>>103948229
>no argument
mousecuck is shitting himself KEK
Anonymous No.103950667 >>103950775
>>103950524
>projection
hate for hate's sake is a bad look, you don't have points to refute as you literally invented the statements in your head
Anonymous No.103950775
>>103950667
i didn't make those points cuck
she isn't going to fuck you for defending your whore btw
Anonymous No.103954031
>>103933565 (OP)
Yup. Definitely clueless.
Anonymous No.103954324
>>103933885
Right.... Ironmouse just happened to win all those awards and articles glazing her when she doesn't even crack top 50 twitch streamers. That's including her sleepathon numbers voodoo, remove that and she would be lucky to be top 500
Anonymous No.103954620 >>103955352
>>103935666
If vshojo girls paid for their own models and assets then why is Ironmouse asking artist to DM her for payment if they did work for her through vshojo?

Of course they're going to say it's all them, why would they publicly say who paid for what assets. Either way vshojo was involved in her streams so it's no stretch to say some of the money they squandered was spent to prop up with biggest streamer
Anonymous No.103955352 >>103955520
>>103954620
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2519890943?t=00h26m49s
Anonymous No.103955520 >>103955606
>>103955352
Yes, Ironmouse can commision her own assets. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that vshojo got their hands in making stuff for her too. You don't think it's strange the other talents all complained about not being paid for months but Ironmouse had no problem paying thousands for new models every few weeks? She's not innocent in this, she only had to come clean once the company imploded.
Anonymous No.103955606
>>103955520
mouse averaged something like 12k subs a month which is about $42k. So she could easily afford models
Anonymous No.103955731 >>103958789
They did it for free, dumb
Anonymous No.103956082 >>103961556 >>103961672
>>103933565 (OP)
>Is the literal face of the company
>Is so close with Gunrun that she often talks about how close their relationship is
>Has been in the company since nearly the beginning
>Has open communication with Gunrun and executive staff at all times
>All of the talents are missing payments and sponsorship money
>Apparently her own fucking charity didn’t get the $500,000 she raised for them
>Artists and contractors are contacting her saying they haven’t been paid either
>Suddenly, out of NOWHERE, just mere months before VShojo was about to financial meltdown and go bankrupt, Mousey posts as MeToo Google dockey about the financial situation apparently it’s impossible she could have known anything about

Yup. No way Mousey could have known anything about anything
Now go watch Mousey’s sleepathon to her through this rough time.
Anonymous No.103956235 >>103958789 >>103960910
Gunrun vshojo is over, why the fuck you still hiring people to smear the talents here?
Anonymous No.103958789
>>103956235
>>103955731
Anonymous No.103959619
>>103940472
>Don't answer your emails
>I guess that means you can't be sued, legally embezzle money with this 1 simple trick!
You're so retarded this has to be bait for this exact response right?
Anonymous No.103959711 >>103961556 >>103961672
>>None of the talents are getting paid for over an entire year
>>$500,000 in charity money missing
>>Everyone is talking about it behind the scenes and asking what’s going on
>>You still get your 30 Live2D models paid for
>>You still get your roombas and Disney trips and sleepathons paid for
>>Company is about to collapse financially
>>Post a Google dockey before it collapses

Anons?
Anonymous No.103959907
Guys stop bullying the multi-millionaire....FINAL WARNING....
Anonymous No.103960013 >>103960099
>>103947541
>Mouse (and all of the rest of them) paid for their MVs and solo concerts and stuff themselves.
So youre saying that during the time when VshojoNext let nazuna walk so that JP director loutlot could secretly do work mastering ironmouses' songs for the Sayton Gang 3d birthday concert, ironmouse had actually poached loutlot and had him stop taking salary from vshojo (including a cut of nazunas own activities) so that ironmouse could personally pay for his time?
Anonymous No.103960099 >>103960179
>>103960013
Didn’t you read the Google dockey???
NOBODY except Gunrun and Mel’s boyfriend had ANY questions about missing paychecks and sponsorship money and merchandise for over a year!
NOBODY!!!!

And it’s a coincidence that Mouse dropped a Google dockey just months before the Ponzi scheme was about to collapse!
Anonymous No.103960179 >>103960312
>>103960099
>just months before
The timeline is that it was about 10 to 14 days after the charity fraud was discovered, or at least after kuro became aware of it. Everything about the bankruptcy is something mouse is not legally liable for. Taking paychecks from stolen charity money is something that the courts will go after even ground level employees for if the employees were aware of the chairty fraud. Once the stolen charity money became a known factor in internal communications mouse has no choice but to go public to save her own hide.
Anonymous No.103960226
Ironmouse is going to do great without Vshojo holding her back.
Anonymous No.103960312 >>103961003
>>103960179
the talent are not employees
Anonymous No.103960910 >>103961013
>>103956235
What is this projection and deflection?
Pretty sure the smearing campaign was for Hololive. Which Mouse 100% agreed and allowed.
Anonymous No.103961003 >>103961040
>>103960312
Yes they are, but even if they weren’t, knowingly taking misappropriated money, especially money that was meant for charity, is a crime. It would make her or anyone else who did it an accessory to financial fraud.

And if the fed does pick up this case by the way, they are going to have access to every single email, every text message, every money transfer, every scrap of information they could possibly ever need.

So these talents really better hope Gunrun never told them that he was using X money to pay for Y.
Anonymous No.103961013 >>103963074
>>103960910
>Which Mouse 100% agreed and allowed.
and other things you hallucinated due to your body odor causing braindamage
Anonymous No.103961040
>>103961003
nope, none of the talent were employees
Anonymous No.103961556
>>103956082
>>103959711
And you'll both be written off as MTD or another ex-vshojo employee "trying to spin a narrative."
No one could possibly find this suspicious on their own. Nope, definitely not.
Anonymous No.103961649
>>103939964
>[Deleted]
uh oh vkek janny melty
Anonymous No.103961672
>>103956082
>>103959711
stop noticing things
Anonymous No.103963074
>>103961013
She is literally the one closest to the boss and has actual pull but keep covering your ears, bro.
Anonymous No.103963118
>>103933565 (OP)
Yea, he was definitely like a dad to her. And she is definitely "sick* too.