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Anonymous No.103944573 >>103944596 >>103944848 >>103944866 >>103944892 >>103944896 >>103945155 >>103945291 >>103946733 >>103948119 >>103948148 >>103949767 >>103949944 >>103950592 >>103950714 >>103951186 >>103956373 >>103957388 >>103957675 >>103957704 >>103957893 >>103957997 >>103961503
>Nijisanji EN
>9 females remaining
>18 males active

Thoughts?
Anonymous No.103944596 >>103944900 >>103962053
>>103944573 (OP)
two women for every male, as promised by Riku. I would choose Enna and Scarle
Anonymous No.103944614
Stop wasting thoughts on kurosanji.
Anonymous No.103944696
it feels like an all out war right now
lol
Anonymous No.103944831 >>103949944
Reminder, they had 10 females all the way back in 2021, and they've debuted an additional 10 waves since then
Anonymous No.103944848 >>103944990 >>103945299
>>103944573 (OP)
>9 females remaining
Who will graduate next?
Anonymous No.103944866 >>103951186
>>103944573 (OP)
Centralization of sexpesting.
Anonymous No.103944892
>>103944573 (OP)
optimal for eiffel towering
Anonymous No.103944896
>>103944573 (OP)
They're not gonna have enough cocksleeves to keep the males satisfied at this rate
Anonymous No.103944900 >>103944946
>>103944596
Anon, your math reps...
Anonymous No.103944946 >>103945022 >>103945151 >>103946172 >>103962632
>>103944900
4 homos are straight, one is bi and the rest are gay.
the math checks out
Anonymous No.103944990
>>103944848
millie
Anonymous No.103945022
>>103944946
eh, I guess so.
Anonymous No.103945151 >>103950999
>>103944946
>4 homos are straight
?!?
Anonymous No.103945155
>>103944573 (OP)
with each graduation we get one step closer to total NijiEN death and one step closer to all out peace. thats what i think
Anonymous No.103945291 >>103945728
>>103944573 (OP)
I think they should get rid of the remaining 9 if they want to continue to be successful.
Anonymous No.103945299 >>103945328
>>103944848
Petra assuming we aren't already counting her as having graduated
Anonymous No.103945328
>>103945299
counting petra that's 8 left
Anonymous No.103945417 >>103946483 >>103947200
The way I see it, the males are thriving in the all male environment while the females are forced to view farm by joining them to stay relevant. wouldn't be surprised if EN goes the Holostars route.
Anonymous No.103945728
>>103945291
tru
Anonymous No.103946172 >>103950999
>>103944946
>?
Anonymous No.103946483 >>103949053
>>103945417
Sadly that's not the case.
The girls need to exist to boost the boys.
These fujos love guys that are already loved by girls.
Anonymous No.103946733 >>103949944 >>103955318
>>103944573 (OP)
Better hope that three waves rrat for ENs sake...apparently they're looking for a hard rebrand as well. JP can't really do the heavy lifting that EN is supposed to do. Gotta put more resources into talents that can diversify the audience and grow Niji as a whole. The JPs hard market themselves in almost everything they do so ENs have to do same.
Anonymous No.103946936
Who the fuck is this dude
Anonymous No.103947200 >>103947344
>>103945417
The problem is that there's only so far they can go with the Holostars route too, without cannibalizing their own audience. But even ignoring the fact that NijiEN has a small demographic of males watching female talents, it's hard to introduce more girl livers because you might end up a case where the girl viewers (ironically) get upset over their male oshis getting close to a female talent too like Twisty. Or in an instance of a less controversial instance, Finana's collabs with Wilson.
Anonymous No.103947344 >>103947442
>>103947200
It was kind of an L to begin with debuting a mixed wave. They struck gold afterwards with BTB that may lead to execs pushing more male debuts
Anonymous No.103947442 >>103947648
>>103947344
If there's any lesson that should be taken, its probably that there should be no more mixed waves after TTT was reduced to one talent and Denauth hired a girl with severe mental issues and a pre-existing "friend" ready to fuck her over. That's not getting into what happened with XSOLEIL either.
Anonymous No.103947648 >>103948245 >>103958067
>>103947442
>no more mixed waves
Really believe that the second wave of Stars was originally planned to be mixed. Why they didn't debut with the first three, but it was cancelled due to fan backlash. And the cause of the long drought between HoloEN debuts, instead of quickly repairing the damage done.
Anonymous No.103948119
>>103944573 (OP)
I blame Homostars
Anonymous No.103948148
>>103944573 (OP)
The spit roast configuration
Anonymous No.103948245
>>103947648
>Why they didn't debut with the first three, but it was cancelled due to fan backlash. And the cause of the long drought between HoloEN debuts, instead of quickly repairing the damage done.
Imo HoloEN's brass show guys like Vox and Luca and Mystia doing well, panicked, and decided to shotgun as many male vtubers as they could within a short period of time because they didn't want Niji to have a monopoly
Anonymous No.103948276
They've got their work cut out for them at the company orgy
Anonymous No.103948329
Nobody cares about kurosanji anymore, ironkek baits are much more efficient nowadays
Anonymous No.103949053 >>103949819 >>103957888
>>103946483
how?
Anonymous No.103949767
>>103944573 (OP)
The spitroasting and sekuhara will continue until morale improves.
Anonymous No.103949819 >>103950759
>>103949053
Loser male characters might appeal to males and isekai watchers but they are a turn off for women. Males without female orbiters are losers.
Anonymous No.103949944 >>103950467 >>103950576
>>103944573 (OP)
>9 females remaining
No, they still have 10 females. Or 11, if you include Rosemi (since technically she hasn't actually graduated yet)
Petra counts as "active" despite having done fuck-all over the past year, for largely the same reason Kunai counted as "active" for the 3-4 months between when she buggered off and when the company made the official announcement; and for a somewhat similar reason to why Twisty counted as "active" for over six months despite being very obviously permanently suspended (and "active" enough to get a voice pack release back in April)
>>103944831
Your math is a bit off, they've debuted "only" 8 waves since the time in 2021 when they had 10 females
Incidentally, those 8 waves had a combined 10 females debut (and all of the branch's 25 males, including the male-presenting Yugo Asuma)
>>103946733
EN continues to exist for exactly one reason, and that is so that the company executives can tell the shareholders that EN exists. And the execs have already admitted to the shareholders that EN's revenue is in "recovery" mode (with pretty much the same connotation as when a search and rescue mission changes into a search and recovery mission)
Anonymous No.103950467 >>103950725 >>103952837
>>103949944
The problem with the counting is that 3 girls who are ostensibly ""EN"", that is Klara, Meloco and Maria, stream exclusively in JP hours, title their streams in japanese, and speak japanese half the time. They are barely even "EN".
To be honest there's only 6 active EN girls, and one of them's Finana
Anonymous No.103950576
>>103949944
I don't care if it is "official" or not, if your last stream is a literal year ago you're not active, end of story
Anonymous No.103950592
>>103944573 (OP)
Spitroast or DP?
Anonymous No.103950714
>>103944573 (OP)
I am the original nijiEN hater and every failure is enjoyable to see
Anonymous No.103950725 >>103950790
>>103950467
Is this a jab on Finana having half her schedule be 3-5 hours of white noise, or her finally becoming a 2 view on members?
Anonymous No.103950759
>>103949819
I dont think they really tried with the "loser male" aspect at all, outside of maybe Mysta discussing his life early one. That would have made them relatable to male viewers in the first place, but by then they understandable swung to fujo pandering because it made them a shitload of money, even if it alienated casual males.
Anonymous No.103950790 >>103950859
>>103950725
finana is only able to stay relevant by being a Wilson simp.
Anonymous No.103950850
Hi!
Welcome to NijiStars
Anonymous No.103950859 >>103951084
>>103950790
I thought it was all the blatant botting of her streams and songs.
Anonymous No.103950999
>>103945151
>>103946172
It was revealed to me in a dream
Anonymous No.103951084 >>103951145 >>103951262
>>103950859
That's management doing the botting; and they're botting (nearly?) all of the livers, not just Finana.
Wilson got bonked by management for complaining about it.
Anonymous No.103951145 >>103951440 >>103953091
>>103951084
didn't someone else also complain about it on priv too?
Anonymous As Frick No.103951186 >>103951240 >>103951883 >>103953008
>>103944573 (OP)
>>103944866

I just want the entire Nijisanji English
branch along with BOTH Nijisanji itself
and AnyColor,the company that owns it
to be gone!,...As in gone,forever!
Is that too much to ask for?
And on an unrelated side note,
the creator of BOTH Cover Corp
AND Hololive,YAGOO himself,
in some way,had been living "rent-free" in
the head,and the mind of that "Gunrun" dude,
who happens to be the man who I will
NEVER,EVER forgive.

Go on,you "Niji-Sisters"!

Come on,you "Niji-Sycophants"!

Prove.

Me.

Wrong.

I DARE YOU!
Anonymous No.103951240 >>103951540
>>103951186
looks little bro didn't take his meds today
Anonymous No.103951262
>>103951084
I think they mean it as it's the only way she gets any traction outside the sub 50 fans that still watch her
Anonymous No.103951440 >>103957094
>>103951145
Probably. I know Ryoma hasn't complained about botting, dunno about the others
But as far as I know, nobody's complained about botting more than once
Anonymous As Frick No.103951540 >>103952033
>>103951240

"McScuse Me,BITCH???!!!!"

"THE FUCK YOU SAY TO
ME,YOU LITTLE SHIT??!!!"

"(DO) YOU KISS YOUR
MOTHER WITH THAT MOUTH??!!"

"YOU'RE MESSING WITH
THE WROOONNNG MAN!!!!(??!!)"

And additionally,...
"My Stinky Nuts and PP Want a Word With You!!!"
https://youtu.be/9Ldmm5AhjqY?si=6TOAZ1kzBodPy0Za
Anonymous No.103951806 >>103952793
scrolling niji threads is always the worst experience ever. even stars is not that bad
Anonymous No.103951880
>cooks your company
Anonymous No.103951883 >>103952033
>>103951186
>Nijisanji itself
>and AnyColor,the company that owns it
>to be gone!,...As in gone,forever!
that ain't happening. keep seething tho
Anonymous As Frick No.103952033
>>103951883

No,U!

You first,you "Niji-Sister".

You are a "Niji-Sycochant".

And please go look at this right now.
And enjoy the YouTube video(link).
>>103951540
Anonymous No.103952793
>>103951806
Beyond the warring male and female fanbases since Noctyx, the drama surrounding Selen's termination basically resulted in the thread being put in there being two types of people using that thread
>Shitposters ready to fuck with sisters
>Remaining fans being too defensive, to where they brand some livers as "traitors" more than others. Regardless of whether they were shitstirrers like Nina/Reimu/Kyo, whether it was from during their time in the company or not.
Anonymous No.103952837
>>103950467
>there's only 6 active EN girls, and one of them's Finana
And the other one is Millie.
Anonymous No.103953008 >>103953628 >>103959106
>>103951186
Why not just burn their building and kill as much of their staff in the arson as possible? Like what happened to KyoAni?
Anonymous No.103953091 >>103954679
>>103951145
Wilson complained in priv as well as on main.
said something to the effect of
>I don't want this viewership if people are gonna say im botting
Anonymous No.103953628
>>103953008
based.
Anonymous No.103954679
>>103953091
dang
Anonymous No.103955318 >>103956768
>>103946733
>Better hope that three waves rrat for ENs sake
This is the first time I read this.
Anonymous No.103956373
>>103944573 (OP)
Women are the principle victims of marketing and consumers of useless shit. It actually makes much more sense to market to parasocial women, and on average they make more money and spend way more, like WAY more. Men are good at exploring new hobbies even when the public makes fun of them, but they aren't how you make money now that's it's more of an established thing.
Anonymous No.103956768 >>103957558
>>103955318
And it's just as well, since the only way any new EN waves would do well enough to justify the costs of creating the respective character and wave IPs is if they're all-male boy band waves, and even then they'd end up cannibalizing the fanbases of LuxNoc and BTB
Anonymous No.103957094 >>103957312 >>103957783
>>103951440
That implies Ryoma even gets botted
Anonymous No.103957312
>>103957094
He does sometimes
Anonymous No.103957388
>>103944573 (OP)
Orgy party
Anonymous No.103957558 >>103958452
>>103956768
That's still going to put them in between a rock and a hard place, because like you said they'd cannibalize LuxNoc's remaining fanbase and screw over BTB too. Its more than likely that they'll pick up some random Asian girls to be new EN girls in order to replace the ones leaving.
Anonymous No.103957675
>>103944573 (OP)
you have to subtract the VTL dodgers
Anonymous No.103957704
>>103944573 (OP)
>9 females
>18 males
Just nice for a mass spit roasting session
Anonymous No.103957783
>>103957094
Out of his last 10 streams, he was very clearly botted 5 times and 2 other streams were in the more suspicious side. 5(possibly 7) out of 10 makes it looks like he gets botted more often than not - just because his botted numbers weren't high enough doesn't mean he wasn't botted.
Anonymous No.103957888
>>103949053
It's shows that the boys are, in some sense, "desirable." It's similar logic behind why women will try "mate poaching"; flirting with guys who they know are dating someone or are wearing wedding rings. The guy has already proven himself worthy of settling down with, so they don't have to put the legwork in themselves to see if he's up to snuff.
Anonymous No.103957893
>>103944573 (OP)
>9 females
>3 of them are part of the mean girl clique
>1 of them is on perma hiatus
grim as fuck. I guess scarle is alright although I refuse to sub to anyone in this corp
Anonymous No.103957997 >>103958447 >>103959045
>>103944573 (OP)
>Thoughts?
The company was legitimately on a good path when Niji EN was female only. Especially the first two waves.

After hiring the homos the entire branch was destroyed.
- Male viewers left because nobody wants to watch homos
- Chinese fujoshis rushed in to watch Vox’s foreskin cleaning ASMR streams
- Went from female only content to content that ALWAYS had men involved in every collab
- The girls’ growth completely plateaued
- The girls’ viewership sank like a rock
- Fujoshis quickly left for LADS and kpop groups
- The homos’ growth and viewership also dropped

But worst of all…
- Hololive almost fell for the same trap and spent 2 years trying to sneakily change Holo EN into Niji 2.0
Anonymous No.103958067
>>103947648
Do you have anything to believe this apart from “It came to me in a dream”?
Anonymous No.103958447 >>103958627 >>103959066
>>103957997
They should actually debut a female only wave and keep them hard segregated from the males to try and regain some male viewers. Who knows if it would work, but if I were in charge of this ship I'd rather try something different than just continuing to slowly sink into irrelevancy and death forever.
Anonymous No.103958452 >>103958544
>>103957558
And those random Asian girls wouldn't get nearly as much fan support as an all-male wave would, much less support from management.

For vtuber agencies, there are certain unavoidable costs involved with creating a vtuber character - not just the model and the rigging, but also registering copyrights and trademarks. These are costs which the company generally can't pass on to the talents, or reasonably expect the talents to pay up front, due either partially or completely to that whole "the company owns the character IP rights" thing.
Multiply that per-character cost by enough vtubers to debut them together as a wave, add in the art asset costs and IP registration costs for creating that new wave, add in however many dozens of yen Niji would spend on promotional materials for that wave, and you've got the up-front cost of the new wave. And then compare that cost to the expected revenue generation of that wave for their first 90 days.
If the new wave isn't an all-male boy band wave, how big will the deficit be? If the new, non-boy band wave is comprised entirely of ESL girls from SEA, Japan, Taiwan, and/or Korea, how big will the deficit be?

And how willing do you think Anycolor would be to eat the costs of another failed wave in a dying branch that's already hemorrhaging revenue?

...

tldr the only two options for a new EN wave are yet another boy band, which will have positive ROI at the cost of reduced LuxNocBTB revenue
or a wave that isn't a boy band wave, which will have negative ROI
Anonymous No.103958544
>>103958452
Or the third option, stop pulling at the dregs to make a new wave at all.
I could see why they would anyway though. It's risky but either the new entries are just truly retarded, in which case easily taken advantage of, or they aren't retarded, know exactly what they're getting into, and plan on taking advantage of the company.
Anonymous No.103958627 >>103958667
>>103958447
This would be disastrous and I wouldn't wish any indie the treatment they would receive from the coed women.
Someone would commit Selen for real this time.
Anonymous No.103958667
>>103958627
Yeah unfortunately it’s over.
There’s really no saving that branch.

Most likely it will be closed and merged with the main branch like all of their other failed branches. Nijisanji as a brand is simply unsalvageable in the English speaking world.
Anonymous No.103959045 >>103959761 >>103962840
>>103957997
No.
The "fall" started with Ethyria. That was the turning point. Luxiem getting the lighting in a bottle moment was something the Ethyria girls took advantage of.
Anonymous No.103959066 >>103959177
>>103958447
>hard segregated
>in NIJISANJI
not gonna happen. try holo or Specialite EN for that.
Anonymous No.103959106 >>103961270
>>103953008
Glownigger post
Anonymous No.103959177
>>103959066
>holo
lmao
Anonymous No.103959761
>>103959045
true
Anonymous No.103960705 >>103960918
wouldn't be surprised if they started to graduate more females at this point
Anonymous No.103960918
>>103960705
But then who would service all the boys?
Anonymous No.103961270
>>103959106
don't care if I sound like a glowie. Just kill them. Let it serve in Japan that Black companies need to have its members massacred and raped.
Anonymous No.103961503 >>103963501
>>103944573 (OP)
Gay Niggler branch, free Scarle
Anonymous No.103962053
>>103944596
You officially failed at life.
Anonymous No.103962632
>>103944946
Straight predators, you mean.
Anonymous No.103962840
>>103959045
Finana was cringe on Twitter before she debuted, and she was just as cringe on stream after she debuted
Anonymous No.103963501
>>103961503
Too little, too late