Thread 104097997

Okay, I want you to explain to me why you hate Phase Connect.

I need legit reasons and not trolling.

Beggars are getting desperate

Lumi is there and I don't trust her.

They are safe-edge, not real edge

I don't care about it

I don't hate Phase itself.
I hate their fans.

>>104097997 (OP)
Their edginess and general disregard for Japanese etiquette is more than enough to dissuade me altogether.

>>104097997 (OP)
They're a bunch of literalwho whores whose only notable member is an ugly grifter bald swamp hick. Get rid of the girls who brag about buying condoms with dono money and then pathetically try to lie about "not knowing" what condoms are for, for starters.

>>104097997 (OP)
Pippa and fanbase

>>104097997 (OP)
Phasewhores are disgusting. Phasepags are subhuman

I don't hate Phase or its talents. I actually enjoy watching Clio when my favorite holos aren't online. It's the Phase fans who are insufferable. They're the fucking Deltarune trannies of vtubing. Stop shoving it down my goddamn throat and let me enjoy in peace.

>>104097997 (OP)
Pippa being friendly towards kiwifags = opening the door for literal stalker doxfag fuckers to come infest everything. It's be like a nijiEN being friendly openly towards nyfco when it existed. Also friendly to parrot, nousagi etc. Basically the inverse of the "enemy of my enemy" adage. She's friends with the enemy.

Her general tactics also badly influence the rest of PC as well but you also have to consider that her large pull of fans relative to the rest of the corpo = for many of the girls they are halfway a Pippa waiting room functionally and have to put up with Pippa fans like a fart in an elevator. Basically if pippa left that would be only the start of reconciliation towards them IMO. I am not entirely certain they can survive without her however (it seems much more possible now at least, it was outright impossible a proposition like 2-3 years ago). I don't really dislike the other phase girls that much (lumi I don't care for however, always gave an dirty feeling level of pickme) but Pippa basically ruins it for the rest of them. I am sincerely sorry if any of them happen to see this evaluation but I mean OP wanted a straight answer and this is it from me.

>>104097997 (OP)
>fanbase full of /pol/tards encouraged by Pippa
>bf yabs
>some of the girl behave like whores
>bunch of disgusting posts from them on Twitter
>gomen ne senpai
the only one I like from all of their roster is Clio and that's it. Hope she graduates sooner than later so I can watch her without being associated to phasefags

>>104097997 (OP)
I don't hate Phase Connect itself, I hate their retarded fans that live on this board

>>104097997 (OP)
the fandom, not their members.

>>104097997 (OP)
>Okay, I want you to explain to me why you hate Phase Connect.
Pippa has basically been a gateway for some of the most cancerous elements internet "culture" to get a foothold in Western vtubing but they'll never fire her cause they're cucked by the fact she's by fair their most popular member (not counting Invaders) and her influence felt in their smaller members who try to ape aspect of her style albeit to a lesser degree
Despite being rather small, their fans all really loud and obnoxious, every single phasefag I've ever had the displeasure of interacting is that type of post-2016 newfag who makes being a 4chan user their entire personality
Outside of that, I don't have beef with Phase since like 90% of their roaster is totally irrelevant and can just be ignored

>>104098608
this
Without Pippa someone like Kirsche or SmugAlana would never have gotten a foothold.

>>104097997 (OP)
you already posted the reason

>>104097997 (OP)
Phase fans somehow more than fans of any other corpo, feel that they have to tear other vtubers and vtuber corpos down in order to get ahead. Hating Phase is actually one of the few unifying forces in western vtubing because dealing with retarded Phasefags shit talking your oshi or Phasebegging is almost universal among Hololive, (ex)VShojo, Nijisanji, and many indie fans. They also like to invade threads to shit them up or shill Phase.

There is a possibility they poached my indie oshi and made her graduate. It's a very small and unlikely possibility, but if it's even remotely true I am dedicated every waking moment of the rest of my life to working towards this trash company's ruin.

>>104098933
It's the same person

>>104098388
pick-me girls are the best though.
at least they pretend to care about your hobbies and interest.
or do you really believe girls actually enjoy playing video games?

>>104097997 (OP)
I hate phase fans, those faggots are even worse than nijisisters. as for phase itself i have no opinions cause i never watched a single sec. and thanks to phase fans i probably never will

>>104097997 (OP)
>cringe CEO worship
>tumblr-era "mental illness" LARP
>cuck chuubas up the ass
>most obnoxious fans imaginable
still love purin/muyu

>>104097997 (OP)
PC associated themself with Twitch which is super duper hated because of Pokimane, Asmongold, subathons , Numi , Bao aka the whores

Youtube is the holy royalty and Twitch is seen as the disgusting usurper, anybody doing anything on Twitch is a criminal in their view

>>104097997 (OP)
>the phasebeggar problem
>cozying up to doxxniggers
>polluting my escapism with real life shit

I don't hate phase or its talents, in fact I even like quite a few of them.

HOWEVER

Phasecucks are so fucking obnoxious by being fans of le heckin contrarian not like the others corpo and are such narcissists with a bigger superiority complex than fucking vegans. They can't go 5 seconds without self-inserting themselves into any discussion and turn it into a shitflinging contest that I choose not to interact with phase or its talents at all out of spite for the phasecucks.

>>104097997 (OP)
I don't hate phase connect
but the 0.6% acting like this
https://x.com/JaneTheDemon
and then question why people don't like them

>>104099064
Nta but there is a "good" pick-mes and the "bad" ones. Good ones don't even need to pretend to like certain things, they genuinely feel that way, Lumi actually fakes it for the views

I don't watch any of them, but I hate the people who hate them, they're the most annoying people in vtubing.

>>104098608
this is also where I land
Pippa opened the floodgates to these types of cultural rot
The ''Fishman great'' meme is also kinda forced, gives me the ick

they're the johnny somali of vtuber corpos

>>104097997 (OP)
is this the phase connect thread

>>104098388
This is why the JP branch is so irrelevant because they cant use pickme western tactics like EN girls to become popular

>>104097997 (OP)
I don't like whores or women with bfs

>>104097997 (OP)
I don't. I think they've done incredible all things considered.
I just hate their fanbase

>>104097997 (OP)
Pippa is a cancer on all of vtubing.

>>104097997 (OP)
I don't hate them, I hate their fans, especially /here/ fans

>>104097997 (OP)
Honestly, a lot of the talents suck. The ones that don't can't carry the rest. There's too much Sakana worship amongst talents and fans. Phase fans are also extremely obnoxious and don't have faith in the company by begging for big talents. Their merch is also a scam that takes too long to ship if it ships at all.

despite making up only 0,6% of vtuber audience, phase connect fans commit 90% of the shitposts

>>104097997 (OP)
Phasecucks being annoying cucks.
If it was not for that, I would only have no particular feeling towards phase.
0.6% phasecucks should do the world a favor and kill themselves.

>>104102525
pretty much

Phase connect is the only corpo whose strategy for growth is to cozy up to dramafags and weaponize them against everyone else.
This results in the majority of shitposting, fake narratives and slander originating from phase connect fans

>>104105159
Here's Pippa with nousagi the famous seller of hololive dox

>>104105159
>>104105184
Here are phase connect fans sucking up to a drama channel and grifter

>>104105159
>>104105184
>>104105204
And the cherry on top of the shit cake here's hiromoot's top mod and defacto head of 4chan sucking up to Tenma.
Jannies and mods shill for phase while creating and allowing shitpost and narratives against every other vtuber run unchecked, they delete any posts and threads shitting on phase connect

>>104105184
Isn't she the doxxfag too?

>>104105313
So your reason for hating them is a tiny handful of one-sided interactions of dramafags trying to talk to them and getting ignored? Surely if they responded you would have screencapped that instead, but it doesn't exit. It sounds more like you hate them first and look for reasons second.

>>104105877
no, pippa is a huge hololive fan and is very respectful to the talents
not to mention she herself is a victim of doxxing

Lumi is a whore and so is Panko

>>104105159
Alt-internet culture in general is cursed by highly enthusiastic people who can't tell the difference between ironic edginess and being unironically maladjusted. Maybe it's not an issue for the Japanese corpos, but if Phase is western, they'll have a hard time avoiding it.

>>104106762
>please stop believing in your lying eyes
0.6%, 95% of shitposters

>>104105313
>Jannies and mods shill for phase while creating and allowing shitpost and narratives against every other vtuber run unchecked, they delete any posts and threads shitting on phase connect
Seen this happen first-hand multiple times, threads shitting on others corpos and groups left up for hours, often multiple threads on the same topic flooding the catalogue... but threads or even comments highlighting shitty behavior with Phase and/or their fans being pruned within minutes. It happens way too often to just be a coincidence.

>>104106762
One of the screenshots literally shows 2sided interaction(collab). Are you retarded?

>>104107342
1 ever and it was Pippa in her suicidal arc where she thought the company was a scam

>>104107460
>Haha sorry for promoting a doxxer, oopsie, i was suicidal
Do you even believe in what you type?

Ive grown disenfranchised because they seem very cliquey, from the talents to the fans to the phasefriend streamers. There is also Sakana's purge that he used mods for. I just slowly retracted away from it all, i watch less and less and don't really chat now, i just lurk at best. I like Phase, but I don't love it anymore.

>>104097997 (OP)
I dont think about phase connect, your fans are obnoxious and pippa is friends with doxxsagi and parrotfag

>>104107860
pippa was herself doxxed

>>104097997 (OP)
Phase Connect is just another Vshojo.

>>104111133
vshojo imploded due to scamming charity and talents. That's quite an accusation

>>104097997 (OP)
Pippa should be executed via firing squad for the wellbeing of vtubing

>>104111133
>phase members barely get paid
>merch never arrives
I think you're on to something

>>104111133
If that was true then the owner of the company would be spending tons of money on events and advertising in one city where only 0.1% of fans would every get anything out of it, just to stroke his own ego
oh...oh no...oh nonono

>>104111207
Phase already scammed a talent out of their IP, they just need to scam a charity now.

>>104111847
>Phase already scammed a talent out of their IP
Really? That's pretty uncool if true

>Click on vtuber post
>See weird anti reply
>Click on profile
9/10 times it's a phasefag. Their fan base is mostly dogshit.

>>104097997 (OP)
I don't hate Phase Connect but if I did, I would say the best explanation is jealousy. They are jealous of their success.

Bf yabs that I know of:
Pippa
Lumi
Jelly
Mari Mari
Muyu
Shiina
Panko
Saya

Dizzy once said "we" in relation to her living conditions so a bf is suspected but not confirmed.

Not necessarily a bf yab, but Lia had a stream where a man she knew from IRL came into her steam as a guest and started flirting with her.

Runie has a gf, which I suppose is not a bf yab technically.

Ember was an OnlyFans whore.

Mari Mari's I guess probably now ex-bf confirmed the 5 guys rrat, thus making her the biggest slut in the company and maybe in all of corpo vtubing

>>104111998
It's not something their phase drama friends would talk about but yeah, the mainland chinese fish terminated the contract of an invader "Yuri" and stole her IP. It's why Shondo is so opposed to them.

>>104112199
he did that for no reason at all? That's crazy
and none of the other talents said anything about it?

>>104112296
NDA's are a companies best friend.

>>104112296
The official reason was repeated breaches of contract. They supposedly also tried to work something out but couldn't come to an agreement. They never said what exactly happened but there was talk of embezzlement on the discord at the time. The other talents reactions to this ranged from indifference to actually being pissed at her.

>>104097997 (OP)
pippa is a grifting lying whore
lia is a grifting lying whore
lumi is a grifting lying whore
jelly is a grifting lying whore
tenma is a grifting lying whore
uruha is a grifting lying whore
dizzy is a grifting lying whore
etc.

It's a company full of blacked-obsessed horrible people.

>>104112643
but >>104112494 implied the talents wouldnt be allowed to react? why would they be angry at her over fishman stealing her IP for no reason?
Why would he want her IP anyway? What can he do with it?

>>104112643
that explains her termination, but not why they stole her IP.

Hired a tranny.

>>104112818
If the embezzlement rrat is true thats the reason right there. Can't recover the money? Take the IP out of spite. Would also be a sensible thing to put in a contract.

>>104112893
It's not a sensible thing at all you retarded phaseshill.

The fanbase are really annoying, the vtubers don't seem to tardwrangle them at all. Fans proclaim that they're here to save vtubing and that their vtubers are better than any other vtuber, but you can't watch them casually or you're a bandwagoner, and you can't watch anyone else from any other company or you're not taking it seriously, and you can't want to only watch people who fully act a role without involving their real life or politics or you're cringe, but you also can't watch "the wrong type" of indie or you don't deserve to watch their precious phase tubers. If you post about phase once and you have a notable following, phasefags will hound you forever.
The vtubers and phase management seem to make no effort to discourage or punish bad behavior like other notable companies. Pippa still doesn't have a handler and wanders around fucking things up for the others. It feels like most of their vtubers gave up some time ago and are now coasting.

>>104112973
>penalty clauses are a common thing

R-retarded phase shill!

>>104113023
See? You cannot even prove that she actually did anything wrong and yet you defend the company.
Obvious Phaseshill.

>you can join as an invader and keep your IP no strings attached trust :)
>actually we can just choose to take your IP if we feel like it
this is a black company

>>104113071
And you are claiming that they "stole" her IP without ever having seen the contract. How do you know she didn't sell it when joining? You are just some schizo with an axe to grind.

>>104113133
>>you can join as an invader and keep your IP no strings attached trust :)
They sign over the IP to Phase Connect when joining. Obvious to everyone ever.

>>104113144
Well yeah, the contracts are bad, the talents who join with their IP are getting fooled because the fish could steal them for any reason even if he promises not to. That's kind of the point.

>>104112790
phase girls react to everything if you watch streams the rules arent that strict

>>104113208
Not to everyone, apparently. The invaders themselves keep saying they own their IP, which is either a lie or they're actually stupid, and if anyone publicly states that invaders obviously don't own their IP anymore like shondo did, they get called a liar and hounded by pcg.

>>104113310
They obvious don't because... because why? Because you said so?

>>104113226
We've never seen the contract. Some of the girls have stated on stream that they were given plenty of time to sign and looked it over with their lawyers. They also never seem to get in trouble for anything they do on stream so its just really hard for me to believe that they are under some slave contract.

>>104097997 (OP)
Ran by a damn dirty gacha cheater!

>recycled 3 year old drama
Grim

>>104113310
Yuri chose to sell her IP, the others didn't, it's that simple.

>>104113377
Because they literally already stole someone else's IP already. There's precedent.
Either they don't own the IP and shouldn't have been able to steal that IP, or they do and are lying about the contracts. It's one or the other.

>>104113255
>the rules arent that strict
It's a bit of an indicator of professionalism, though. Isn't it? Hololive is pretty tight on perms, I'm sure that applies to everything else. They let a lot of talent go in the last year but if they have big ambitions, their talent needs to be on board with whatever their global projects are.

>>104113402
The ability of the fish to take away the IP of invaders makes the contract bad by default, I don't need to see more of it to come to that conclusion.

>>104113451
it's just what is the point of suspending them for every little thing especially if it's just a 2 second clip answering a chat question

>>104097997 (OP)
I like phase. I actually do have a real hatred for the beggars & political brainrotted fags who infest Twitter & sometimes youtube comments. They absolutely contribute to less new viewers due to them being retarded/toxic.
I like all the phase talents & my oshi is even a phase talent (uruka. Love the blue bear) but holy shit some of the fans are INSUFFERABLE.
Like during the vshojo stuff they kept gloating on twitter like have some fucking tact.
The most egregious example i can think if is When shondo's mom died there was some absolute retard who replied to pippa who said something like "pippa can you ask fishman to save shondo & hire her" like what the fuck?
The beggars are so fucking annoying. It's not the speculation that makes me irritated it's that you don't ask random indies during livestreams, you don't reply to random people shitflinging & being all smug. You don't be disrespectful to other people. At least do it on /pcg/ or in some private discord where no one is affected. It's fun to speculate but don't pressure other people.
As for the political fags... they just need to be purged, I'm glad pippa is already cooling down on her behavior (and calls out obvious clip tourists). But still there should be a purge. Like lmfao I saw some comments say pippa was "too liberal" like wtf...
Also i hate tribalfaggots. You know you aren't limited to just one corpo right? Or even indies? Like I went to AFO and had a blast. I like most the holo talents, I like (some) of the niji talents. I like most of the vshojo talents. I like most indies. You don't have to act like a tribalfag & that it's some sports team. You can just enjoy vtubing as it is.
Obviously you won't have time at all to follow so many vtubers, but you can just respect others for being in the same space. I mainly just follow my oshi but I don't have some seething hatred for others. It's just entertainment at the end of the day man.

>>104113553
I think a lot of the weird behavior is people who are on the fault line and are fans of both and they don't even realize Shondo and Pippa are not on the same team. Same for Vshojo and Niji people leaping over to "gloat" with Phase when a lot of them are scorned fans. This keeps happening only because Phase is the only thing still floating out there.

>>104113553
>As for the political fags... they just need to be purged
Nyanners has had a hard time escaping her rep too, if she ever did. Overall I'd think it's very detrimental in the long run to be associated with well, whatever you call it.

>>104113553
>uruka. Love the blue bear
She's great, btw. Forgot to mention that.

Okay, I've read every post in the thread and I can sum things up into 3 categories pretty easily
>sakana worship is gay
True and real
>the fans™ are bad
The fans of every chuuba are dogshit, the entire industry is targeted to social rejects afterall. Holo, Niji, Indie, Phase, small corpos, there isn't a single "good" fanbase out there
>I have never watched a stream but the catalog has dramaposts that I slurp up all the time without looking any further into them
Yeah, you're genuinely retarded, lol

>>104113984
/shon/ is the best fanbase in vtubing and don't you forget it

>>104112188
>-bf confirmed the 5 guys rrat
Sauce

>>104113984
It's the kind of cancer you see in all scene politics. At least it's not as bad as Death Row and Bad Boy Records literally murdering each other in the 90s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41qC3w3UUkU

>>104113226
>the contracts are bad
Proof next thread?

>>104113475
Don't forget she changed her name when joining Phase. She gave it away to Sakana thinking she was tricking him and could have her cake and eat it.

>>104113984
>The fans of every chuuba are dogshit
Phase fans are worse than dogshit and I say that as one of them

>>104114434
I think you're lovely, anon. :)

>>104097997 (OP)
Hatred is far too strong a word for what I feel regarding phase. For the most part it's indifference - I simply forget they exist until they pop up in the catalog. When i'm reminded of their existence however I do dislike them quite a bit - they cozy up to doxxers and dramafaggots, they revel in lowering standards and they cultivated one of the most persistently cancerous fanbases in all of vtubing.
I'm sure the fish has good intentions and i'm sure most of the girls aren't malicious but when I stack the positives and negatives then phase as a whole measures up very poorly

>>104097997 (OP)
Deliver products on time

>>104112188
I mostly watch Tenma and Wemi anyways

Merch sucks
Pippa is a spineless idiot

That's about it, really.

>>104097997 (OP)
The talents are fine, some even pretty good, even Pippa isn't the antichrist of VTubing people want to see in her. Fishman-cult is literally just Yagoo-cult except funnier.
No, the only problem, the one big problem, Phase has is the fanbase. It's literally a cesspool for all those rejects that have been booed out of less toxic fan-bases for being socially retarded asswipes.
I basically watch only one Phase-girl and even she low-key admits that she wished to have made it into a more "friendly" company i.e. with fans that are less prone to constantly bullying you.

>>104114742
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy5UDtmaFTo

Too many talents. I can't keep up with them.

My main issue with people complaining about "politics" is that the only reason they're actually complaining is that they're not personally being pandered to.
If Phase was pandering to left wingers instead, the majority of people who are currently complaining about politics wouldn't have a single problem and the worst part is that this distracts from the actual problem caused by Phase's fans
Also the Phase women who post /here/ are almost unbearably catty. I don't trust a single post that uses "pick-me" unironically

>>104115799
>femanons
the niji threads are unbearable for the same reason

>>104115799
No I hate leftoids & magatards equally. But phase isn't really a political company, just a part of the fanbase is too poisoned with political drama. Just go watch kirsche if you want political streamers.

>>104114742
Anon, I hate to say this but if you're only interacting with them in the catalog you're definitely not encountering the normal Phase fans. This is like saying Holofans are the absolute scum of the earth because you personally only encounter them by opening /#/

>>104115799
>pandering
grifting*

>>104115799
It's only american chuubas that "talk politics" and american politics is fucking retarded

>>104116166
Yeah the ones in /pcg/ are even worse

>>104116211
/pcg/ is just a bunch of corny horny old guys

>>104116185
I'm not saying that I even want to hear it myself, especially not as a Yank. But the only reason most people /here/ whine about their politics is specifically because they're not being pandered to. People like this anon below
>>104116177

>>104105159
>>104105184
This girl really love dramatuber

>>104116303
It's a grift because none of them are actually right wingers.

>>104116211
Most of /pcg/ doesn't watch Phase. It's the default hangout for losers who live on /vt/ regardless of who they watch. They treat it like a social club
Like 20% of them at the most watch streams. Next time there's only one Phase stream live go to /pcg/ and livepost something out of context, you'll get 10 replies asking what tf you're talking about because none of them are watching

>>104106907
Except when she doxxes Kiara

>>104116391
Hey I watch uruka.

I don't really live post cause it's usually a race war retardfest & I think there's like 5 urufugang on the entirety of /vt/ anyway. (& 3 of them don't use /pcg/).

>>104116364
They're women, they're far more likely to go with the flow in general.
Surround a woman with right-wing men and she'll become right-wing

only group of vtubers who actively interact with dramafaggots.

>>104116537
Even though /pcg/ treats the whole company as a unit, fans come in waves just for the news gens. A lot of posters for a long time were just Gen2fags and while they knew about the more memes ones like Lia, they never watched or talked about Uruka. The same was true for Gen 3 and is especially true now with Quest.

You have to actually introduce Uruka to them if you want them to talk about her.

>>104116166
>the normal Phase fans
Yeah, i've seen the ones on twitter too. I don't care if there are good phase fans the same way I don't care if Syria has cheap holidays and great tourist spots.

>>104116665
You may be right. Bat was forced by like one person in /lig/ & now she's a meme there.
I think I may do something similar but be less annoying about it...

>>104116657
if you can't rise through talent, rise through drama. worked for asmongold.

>>104112188
>>Ember was an OnlyFans whore.
Actually she was a camwhore, this is way before OF even existed.

>>104116166
Nta but i also see these shitters on twitter and in other girls chats. These clowns raided Mori youtube comments to "defend" Pippa.

>>104112188
the shiina one was her PL prior to joining phase. she's no longer with that guy. I don't recall any recent ones where she's blabbed so she's likely still single at this time. we've seen partial cut off frame pics of "gay best friend' that definitely confirms girl.

>>104105159
Don't forget they're the only corpo to pander to election tourists too. And we just saw how that paid off.

>>104097997 (OP)
cuz the fans suck, and they are cuck beggars. I don't want to oshi someone with fans like that.

>>104105159
>>104105184
>>104105204
Yeah, this probably what makes me dislike Phase the most; their propensity either be friendly with or attract shitnigger dramafags who basically function like mudslinging attack dogs who are always ready to try to tear down other corpos/groups while trying a blind eye to Phase
Accounts like BTVM, ShitpostRock, and Grxit are all prime examples of fags who are very eager to shit on Holo/Niji/(Ex)Vshojo/Indies but seemingly never have anything bad to say about Phase
I mean just look at this goofy faggot's bio, he has like a 2/3rd of Phasemem's oshi marks here lmao

>>104120263
while those twitter fags may not hate equally, i assure you they are equally hated

>>104099109
>tumblr-era "mental illness" LARP
>cuck chuubas up the ass
>most obnoxious fans imaginable
>still love purin/muyu
you just described muyu are you fucking retarded

>>104120263
almost all of those oshimarks are indie, nijinig, you arent fooling anyone

>>104120263
>>104120964
Phasetrannies are basically twitterfags who got into vtubing as a side hobby when they're not typing 120wpm rants about the latest culture war distraction meant to divide and conquer the plebians.

>>104119636
By the time merch is ready to ship the tariffs will be gone anyway.

>>104120263
This retard is pretty much hated by everyone in /pcg/. He rocks the boat too much & posts drama bait way too much, he should be blocked by everyone.

>>104120263
This dude and Azehara faggot are the biggest offenders, idk why Pippa keeps giving them attention. They are the best examples of shitstirrers among phase community. Constant shittalk about other corpos, dramafagging, concern trolling.

>>104112188
What's going on with the Mari thing?

My understanding was they a bunch of people came to play Melee or something. And what's with the ex?

>>104119636
Thats how they will actually win, no one buys their merch anyway, but now they fucked over Hololive. 200IQ move from Fishman

>>104121053
says retard mad at a specific group because of some twitter fag with 500 oshi marks ( a sign of being a huge faggot to begin with)

While I love most of the Phase talents and I for the most part agree with the company, I do have some issue with Phase.

Too many lefty tumblr girls who spew the most retarded opinions on the planet.
Poor opsec. 2/3 of the company has had a bf yab within a year, and more continues to come
NTR pandering galore. NTR is a degenerate fetish, so I can't fathom why these girls keep doing cuck/ntr roleplays.

Even with all this, they're still better than most western Vtubers.

>>104120846
nothing in my post applies to muyu and you're a dumb nigger

>>104097997 (OP)
What good reasons are there to like boyfriend connect?

>>104105159
>>104105184
>>104105204
You're the only drama fag around here fagot

>>104126119
>You're the only drama fag around here fagot

>>104097997 (OP)
Lumi

>>104098388
A reminder that this tweet is the entirety of the "doxxing" that Pippa is accused of.

>>104119636
Better than pandering to school shooters.

I really dislike their girls. After going through a few of them I just gave up, they are horrible.

>>104126773
>school shooters
but enough about pippiggers

>>104127149
This week's shooter as well as the one your image references are transsexuals.
Since there are so many transexual shooters it was just a matter of time one of them was a Pippa fan.
The law of large numbers will eventually allow you to connect a shooter to any vtuber. This doesn't mean that the shooter committed the crime because he was a Pippa fan.
This is not the own you think it is. In fact the common denominator between all those shooters is that they are transsexuals.

>>104126616
This is "I too am on /vt/" dog whistling. Not even close to doxxing because unless you've already seen it you have no idea what she's talking about.

>>104097997 (OP)
>Phasenegros are former Nijinegros
Case closed

>>104127326
Nah, you're reaching hard given the one shooter was a fan of Pippa and put her name on his gun.
The only way you can try and both sides this is if another shooter put Nerissa's name on a gun.
But that didn't happen, so you're grasping at straws

If IDs existed here, how many repeats do you think you’d see?

>>104127523
Pippa loves to give attention to dramafags and containment breakers, she's a shitty person that brings herself and her company into disrepute

>>104128559
ITT or in the catalog?

I don't hate them. I'm a male vtuber i wish there was a company as good as them for us. Sadly there isn't.

>>104126616
>this
>doxxing
not only is her identity probably the most open secret in hololive, but you would have to have seen the video to even know what she's talking about
this is not doxxing anyone

>>104126616
a reminder that phase connect fans can't see why this is in extremely poor taste and against the basic logic and etiquette of vtubing

>>104130217
Wasn't a good joke & was pretty tasteless but still not doxing.

damn that's a lot of pretty good reasons.

>>104128883
>I'm a male vtuber i wish there was a company as good as them for us
Just stay indie.

>>104130291
>she didn't post the dox herself, she just endorses the doxxers that did and makes allusions to it
boy, it must be exhausting grasping for scraps of moral integrity

>>104128271
You have a point, they really can't "both sides" that.

>>104130802
those goalposts are heavy put them down before you hurt yourself

>>104130740
You think corpos aren't worth the hype?

I don't hate Phase itself, I don't even watch them. I don't care about the streamers themselves beyond seeing some webms posted on here and thinking they're crass.
Who I actually hate are Phasefags

>>104130802
I think if you asked her today, or even like 2 years ago, she'd apologize for this and admit it was a shitty thing to do
it's hardly doxxing though

>>104113144
a contract that has a clause that lets them take her IP that she grew before joining is really fucking scummy.
you would need to be a kike or a shill to defend shit like that

>>104097997 (OP)
Phase watcher here (mostly only Tenma, Remi, and Eimi nowadays). The girls humor is generally a bit more up my alley then the normal Hololive stuff and I like them playing some odd stuff or doing weird themed streams.

However Jesus fucking christ women. Shut the flying fuck up about your bfs and just stream more. Its not the interacting with males (See Tenma's best content with Albino) it's the pretending to not have a boyfriend but constantly getting caught having one or flirting with males on stream. That and a lot of the fans really are just super obnoxious. Phase numbers are pretty small for anyone in the corpo cept like Pippa and Clio.

>>104133076
that guys a retard & kiba would have been retarded if she signed that. What's more likely is she sold her ip for some amount of money.
Ultimately no one really knows what happened between her & phase, but every invader has said they own their IP (I think every).
I don't think they own their new models, but they own the brand itself. So if for example clio left phase her new model would be gone but she'd have no issue going back to her old model.
I'm not 100% on this anyway, it could be some of them own their new models & some don't. No one really knows, I am curious to see what actually happened with kiba & phase though.

>>104134644
>What's more likely is she sold her ip for some amount of money.
That's not likely at all. You even contradict yourself later.
>but every invader has said they own their IP

>>104134940
No. Every other invader since kiba left.
Lumi joined with kiba & she said she owns her ip.
Could there be some clause that meant phase got her ip if something happened? Sure, but literally no one knows. And kiba signed it anyway If that's the case.

>>104097997 (OP)
They have normalized cucking the audience by blabbering about the dicks they are taking, more than Nimi ever could. They also brought the culture war- / muh edge-crowds with them, which have made enjoying chuubas a less wholesome experience.

>>104135002
Nobody left Phase with their IP.
Being deceived into signing a shit contract doesn't make the contract less shit btw, only a retarded phaseshill would think that way.

>>104135089
How many invaders left Phase again?
Also Jelly is still using her Moon Jelly IP and making money though it independently from Phase

>>104113475
Considering that's only happened once and all the other invaders have had no issues leads me to believe Phase wasn't in the wrong for that.

>>104135089
>being deceived
You are unfathomably retarded if you sign a contract without a lawyer reviewing it or at least reading it. Your logic can only lead to
>kiba knew
>kiba is retarded
I'd like to give her the benefit of the doubt, she knew.

>>104135089
I doubt it was deceptive

I'm just waiting for the inevitable vshojo style collapse and all the girls crying about how awful it was after sucking up to fish man all this time

>suddenly 4 phaseshill replies
ah I guess their discord gave out a ping to do damage control lmao

>>104135283
I do see some worrying signs. But it's unrelated to this retarded stealing IPs rrat, I'm taking all the praise for phase with a grain of salt cause no one knows what really happens behind the scenes.
>>104135285
>didn't even try to respond

>>104135405
Why even bother responding to obvious paid 50cent army shills who just try to brush the issue away as not a big deal or simply blame the girl who got her IP yoinked because the company is always right in their book?

>>104097997 (OP)
They have the worst, most obnoxious, and most retarded fanbase ever and I would never want to be associated with them under any circumstances

I notice everyone here can agree that the fanbase is a fucking disaster, and that comes from the point of view of other viewers who only see them in passing without needing to interact directly. How bad must it be for the girls themselves who are forced to pander to them every single stream?

>>104097997 (OP)
Henya: 'I'll now proceed to pleasure myself with this fish ~dayo'

>>104097997 (OP)
The phase general is downright the worst I've seen

>>104097997 (OP)
phase is okay, it's just that pippa sucks

>>104137141
>pippa sucks
But does she swallow ?

>>104097997 (OP)
Some of the talents are alright, but there is a clique and they have some really toxic fans. This spills over to enjoying the group of Phase talents as a whole.

>>104097997 (OP)
I fucking hate Pippa although I acknowledge she used to make decent lives, mostly very old by now.

>>104136013
even prostitution is less debasing

>>104138079
Still not debasing enough to make the based rabbit baseless.

>>104138339
>pippa
>based
What rock are you living under?

>>104135243
You are a delusional retard

>>104138401
I mean, what were you expecting from her now, a mass shooting?

>>104138627
Supporting BLM and trannies disqualifies someone from being based.

>>104097997 (OP)
I seen more phase haters then actual phase fans

>>104136013
most of the girls are just as bad

>>104097997 (OP)
Its the fact that they unironically put the cuck in phasecucknect; boyfriends, slut pasts, openly e-thotting. And let us not get started on how they make all those deflect threads to talk about everyone else cucking, when their walls are made of glass. Just a gross company with a hypocritical fanbase.

>>104097997 (OP)
phase staff are similar to vshojo staff and are here posting 24/7. nothing against the talents.

>>104097997 (OP)
They pretended to be a 4chan clan in a gacha to poach people from actual 4chan clans

>>104105159
>Phase connect is the only corpo whose strategy for growth is to cozy up to dramafags and weaponize them against everyone else
>Only

>>104142367
Mowtendoo is not a dramafag just because he shittalked Vei on 4chan + Vshojo is dead so the statement is correct either way.

>>104097997 (OP)
>>104142498
>>104142367
>>104141229
>>104140882
>>104138606
>>104136721

I GOON TO ERINA DAILY

>>104142554
based

>>104142554
>>104142598
TRVKE

>>104140698
Making up lies again sister? Jealousy like so does not look good on you... LMAO

I only watch Wemi non-consistently and don't interact with phase outside the streams. I'm genuinely curious what the fans are like to get this much hate? can you post some screenshot examples?

>>104120263
The allegedly insufferable 'phasefans' are usually just attention seeking tourists who actively engage in ragebaiting on twitter.

Never seen those faggots talking about the actual stream

>>104132929
Nah, she would double down and say she was based

It's pippa's fault for giving attention and empowering some of the faggots. That's how reputation of pc fanbase got ruined

>>104126616
Based Pippa

>>104130831
It's a classic conservative tactic of both double standards and changing the subject so they can't be held accountable. The problem is he tried to change the subject that directly affected Pippa due to the fact a mass shooter was her fan, including etching her name on his gun. Then he tries to use a double standard and broad generalization in a bad faith attempt to blame Nerissa, when her tweet just asks if a group exists falsely implying everyone in the a group is a mass shooter when the real binding factor is they're both white. Good luck getting him to agree on that.
And the whole thing is people like Pippa pander to the shooter's ideology which is why he gravitated towards her and not anyone else. The fact she refused to condemn him is tacit approval since if you're going to gatekeep any group from your fandom, mass shooters is going to be one of those no brainer groups.

>>104147841
he didn't shoot anybody, get over it

>>104148662
>Pippa's fan shit the bed so it doesn't count

>>104148753
you can't call someone who didn't shoot anybody a mass shooter. call him a failure, attempted shooter, whatever. just use the correct words it triggers my autism

>>104148830
Yes you can, he tried, and failed to shoot up a bunch of innocent people. The only thing you can't say is he was using the pippa gun to murder people, since that was already confiscated.

>>104148830
>you can't call someone who didn't shoot anybody a mass shooter
You absolutely can wtf lmao
Just cuz his plot got foiled doesn't means he didn't have intent to be a mass shooter

>>104097997 (OP)
I jealous of his success.

>>104097997 (OP)
The fans and the dramatubers.
Associating yourself with the likes of BrownVTM and his Browncord full of Hololive antis.
Most of whom are Phaseniggers themselves.

I legitimately think Phasefags have been the worst Hololive antis since the chinks in the Taiwan arc. The sisters don’t come anywhere close.

>brag about no male managers
>hire degenerate groomers to work with talents anyways
Ssshhhh don't notice

>>104097997 (OP)
They have boyfriends while I'm still single and a virgin.

>>104133314
It's like they have an autistic guide on what having BF is and what they can't say, but zero common sense about what they sound like.
You can say you're a shut in all day but when you go on twitter and flirt with some attention whore, it's all the same.
We don't want your chu chus, don't want your asmr anymore, your daki goes on Ebay.
You go make that kiss emote :3:3:3 one more time, see what happens.

>>104138339
>based rabbi_
ftfy

>>104097997 (OP)
I don't hate them, but I don't watch them mostly because of pippa. I generally don't like that she panders to 4chan types; I was turned off by her years ago when she talked about how she doesn't like nyanners because of the pomf thing.

>>104145429
Yeah you never watched pippa before have you.

>>104098933
Why would you do that to your Oshi?

>>104097997 (OP)
Phasecucknet, the vtuber company to introduce you to NTR.

>>104097997 (OP)
They're alt-vshojo. Down to the "hidden" male vtuber.

>>104097997 (OP)
Their fanbase alone has completely turned me off from them. Literally some of the most unpleasant polniggers I have ever had the displeasure of witnessing. Even in their containment threads they can’t help being the most obnoxious little fuckwads.

>>104133314
>it's the pretending to not have a boyfriend but constantly getting caught having one or flirting with males on stream
I thought it was just lumi with the bf yab?

>>104097997 (OP)
They platform polfags and dramafags

>>104097997 (OP)
I know that there's a bunch of reason to dislike some of the Phase talents, genuine shit. But can I be honest?

They just aren't very good. Like, all of them. I've tried watching several based on Design/Vibes/Friend recommendation; Tenma, Lumi, Dizzy, Airi, Panko, Shiina, Uruka, Jelly, Eimi, Clara. I really tried. None of them could hook me.

>Phase is the corpo with some actual grifters and not in the buzzword sense used by shitskins /here/ and twitter trannies.
>Phase hires tranny supporting whores who pretend to be edgy, and literally hired a tranny along with an even bigger whore this year.
>The Phase fanbase is just as cancerous as nijiniggers, sometimes arguably worse.
Aside from that I don't find any Phase girl particularly entertaining, though I will admit Airi is based for commissioning huge titty art of herself. I'm generally indifferent to most of them.

They're all Californian or west-coast Canadian

>>104097997 (OP)
I don't hate them, OP. I think at least one of them is kind of a shithead (Pippa) and the rest are hit and miss entertainment-wise.
For what it's worth, their fans are less obnoxious than Hololive's.

they literally all have boyfriends
and their "best" streamer hates streaming and only does low effort reactslop

>>104097997 (OP)
because the girls are annoying grifters with publicly known bfs and the fanbase consist of the most annoying cucks on and off this place. I will say it was pretty funny seeing that one Jelly fag completely off himself when her bf yab happened awhile ago.

>>104155930
>because the girls are annoying grifters with publicly known bfs and the fanbase consist of the most annoying cucks on and off this place. I will say it was pretty funny seeing that one Jelly fag completely off himself when her bf yab happened awhile ago.
Yeah, see, this is what I'm talking about. For their many, many faults, the average Phase fan comes off as the kind of idiot who has Joe Rogan on in the background. Just kind of casually absorbing chud shit, but not at a rate that makes them unsalvageable.
The quote above is par for the course for Hololive fans - pathetic, disgusting and completely unhinged.
Maybe they're only like that /here/, idk. The flood of unicorn shit that I've seen in at least one Hololive chat makes me fear talking to them in public.

>>104155930
>because the girls are annoying grifters with publicly known bfs and the fanbase consist of the most annoying cucks on and off this place. I will say it was pretty funny seeing that one Jelly fag completely off himself when her bf yab happened awhile ago.
Yeah, see, this is what I'm talking about. The average Phase fan comes off as the kind of mostly harmless idiot who often has Joe Rogan on in the background. Just kind of casually absorbing chud shit, but not at a rate that makes them unsalvageable.
The quote above is par for the course for Hololive fans - pathetic, disgusting and completely unhinged.
Maybe they're only like that /here/, idk. The flood of unicorn shit that I've seen in at least one Hololive chat makes me fear talking to them in public.

>>>>>>>>>>>"chud"
Holy fuck.
Kill yourself, tranny.

>>104156465
lol cis male, actually

>>104156757
Saying "chud" as a cis male is even worse.

>>104156883
>Saying "chud" as a cis male is even worse.
touched a nerve

>>104157012
You were touched as a kid if you use tranny terminology, sorry anon.

>>104097997 (OP)
If you look into the PLs of most of the talents, you'll notice that they are lying about a lot of thing. Most will point out their political beliefs which is bad enough, but they also purposely say they are lonely femcels to entice their fans to give them more money when in reality they have/had been in a relationship. At least Hololive has the decency to not bring up relationship status so its left ambiguous; Phase just shoves it in that they're are "single".

>>104157250
triggered

>>104158257
my post made you recall your childhood trauma for half an hour so nice cope

>>104158309
NTA but you're projecting like crazy lol

>>104158365
nope just calling it as I see it, stop acting like a raped trannoid if you don't want to be called one

>>104134644
>What's more likely is she sold her ip for some amount of money.
why would Phase buy an IP to not do anything with it? and why not mention it if they did?
in the end you are right that we will not find out for a long time if at all but the whole thing just seems really scummy no mater from what angle you look at it

I was about to buy some merch and found out about the temporary ban on shipping to US, fuck me

>>104097997 (OP)
BF yabs

>>104097997 (OP)
>(You)

>>104098415
>I only like the tranny
rumao

>>104127149
Please tell down

>>104145429
>>104155232
i heard her argue with Kirsche about mentioning vtubers previous life in chat and her opinion on it was to never do it out of respect, even if the vtuber seems okay with it she would not do it personally.

>>104097997 (OP)
Never understood the hatred. Figured it's just tribalfagging or Karens.
What clips I've seen of Pippa (non-political) showed she was very engaging with her fans.

>>104164831
I thought she was aight until the terf wizard game stream. Twas completely unnecessary chud pandering.

>>104164910
>standing up against bullying is bad

>>104164910
>terf wizard game stream
YWNBAW

>>104164968
uh oh, melty

>>104164920
everyone who played that dogshit on stream deserved to have their hands slapped (including Pikamee, who I otherwise don't really have a problem with)

Let me put it this way: If their fans are "chuds" then they'll act as single girlfailures with mildly """racist""" or based parroted opinions. If their fans are liberal redditors, then they'll be loli hating, pronoun allies, who'll mention their bfs and ex's. And so on. Also afaik not mentioning a bf seems to be hard for them either way (while also putting up the antisocial failure act)

>>104165177
i know this isn't your point but you can enjoy lolitubers and also show trans people some basic respect, they're not mutually exclusive

>>104165099
I don't even hate trannies but you're fucking retard if you think playing a videogame warrants cancelling someone just because the author said some mean things on twitter.

>>104165232
People buy their opinions and tastes as a package when they got no personal ideals. Not all chuds will like girlfailure pickmes, but you know most fall for it.

After reading all of this I came to the conclusion that all vtuber fans on 4chan are pathetic losers. Holo fans here really think they are better than phase fans? You guys are the same, just accept it.

>fans are CEO cock-suckers who harrass random indies and gloat at every opportunity
>also 70% of them are edgelord /pol/ teenagers who think screams and slurs are the peak of comedy
>"talents" refuse to stream
Why should I like Phase? I have nothing against most of their talents, but the fans are so smug and obnoxious for no good reason. Even Hololive fans don't suck their CEO's cock as hard.

>>104165297
She's a billionaire who's flexed her wealth and influence to make trans people second-class citizens in her home country. Everyone knows this now, it's not the 2010s.

>>104165359
And this is why I like her. Also go sleep Clio.

>>104165359
I hope you are baiting, but just in case you're not, you should probably go back.

>>104165359
Stop, you've already convinced that she's great!

>>104165337
>edgelord /pol/ teenagers
Part of their keyfabe. Most of them don't really believe what they say, they just know that it will make them more popular with their chud fans

>>104121053
stop noticing

>>104122881
those two fags are also sincrocucks btw

>>104112643
>>104112893
embezzlement is literally a crime, and Kiba was never charged, so either the fish fuck is aiding and abetting a criminal or it never happened. pick one

>>104165379
>>104165402
>>104165473
This might be why people hate Phase in general - they confuse the average Phase fan with the average Pippa fan.

>>104165359
>She's a billionaire who's flexed her wealth and influence to make trans people second-class citizens in her home country.
And why should that be bad?

>>104165833
Truns are not people.
For you there is Nijisanji and Hassan's friends from Vishojo.

>>104165631
A company doesn't have to bring charges against an embezzler (in the US that only happens in 45% of the cases), especially in small time cases like this one would be
But the doxx rrat is probably more likely anyways

It is amusing to go over some of the comments, and seeing that the language used by the phase-defenders, is the very same used in so many of the bait threads to antagonize people. They are never beating the allegation that their form of PR, is really just throwing shit on others because they have nothing to offer. Stay stinky Phasecucks.

Uruka plays a mean fiddle but not a single other phaser in the talent void that is phase does anything that interests me. Sleepy is nice but I don't consider her phase yet, if ever.

I feel really bad for anyone who might be joining that shithole of a company

>>104165833
I don't hate Trans or particularly care about them either way. But the entire hogwarts legacy was such a massive optics L for them I really wonder whether you are actually a supporter or baiting. Cause the few people i did know who participated in it dropped it like a hot coal since it's reputation has been poisoned by the worst of them.