Thread 104170877

She saw nothing, she heard nothing, she was not complicit. Got it, chud?

DO NOT LOOK AT THE $500,000 SHE RECEIVED TO HER BANK ACCOUNT THE SAME DAY SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO DONATE IT TO CHARITY

Who?

>>104170953
You don't even know the basic facts of the situation
The money went to her personal bank account from the start, because it was Twitch sub money
VShojo was managing her finances and had access to her personal banking
They were meant to take the portion allotted to the IDF from her personal account in the first place

>>104170877 (OP)
The thing is is this though, dude... you say "Got it, chud" but you look like Jimmy Neutron. You see how that doesn't quite fit? You're a nerd. A scrawny nerd that basically drew the short stick his whole life and yet here because no one can get to you, you say, "Got it, chud." It doesn't quite have any power, buddy. I know from your end it may seem like it, but to us, it's like a kid with muscular dystrophy entering the Mr. Olympia contest.

You know the sad thing is, you probably have more in common with the people you're shitting on than the people you're trying to impress.

>>104171131
and they didn't, so she just didn't notice she had +500k????

>>104171224
She never looked at her own bank account (yes this is what she wants you to believe)

>>104171224
No, they did take the IDF money
They just didn't donate it, and instead spent it on the company's debts

>>104171387
riiiiiight ;)

>>104171669
Right.

Unless you have any evidence to the contrary?

>>104171685
The fact vshojo is defuct and ironmouse has unlimited models.

>>104171893
VShojo did not pay for any of those models

>>104171942
yeah we know, iron mouse did with the 500k she stole.

>>104171977
She paid for the past 5 years of models with $500K that was raised last October?

>>104171131
>and had access to her personal banking
What kind of insane retard lets a company manage their personal bank accounts?

>>104172017
none because its not true lmao

>>104172017
Pushing all your finances through a third party is a good way to keep your identity secure

>>104172015
she has gotten more models in the last year than the rest of her career but OK.

She knew nothing that’s why she already had a merch link prepared when she “just found out” vshojo stole the money.
No one also thought it was weird Matara got fired for creating her own merch store when turns out no one had been paid in months. No one decided to stay by her side or speak up.

>>104172308
>She knew nothing
Keep telling yourself that and maybe just maybe, it will come true

>>104172104
https://www.ironmousemodelindex.com/timeline
She has gotten 7 models this year, plus 3 outfits from a SEGA collaboration. Those outfits were likely funded by SEGA.
The two from January were, naturally, commissioned well in advance so could not have possibly been funded by the IDF money.
That means 5 models that could reasonably be part of this rrat.

But, to be clear, not sure if you're aware of this, but the charity money was HALF of the money earned from the subathon.
In other words, there was a separate $500K from the subathon which belonged entirely to Mouse.
Have you considered the possibility that she may be funding these models with... her own money?

>noooo ironmouse didn't know anything about the money because all her banking and financial accounting is done by vshojo because uhhhh she has to protect her identity instead of all the other less retarded ways
>noooo ironmouse bought all her models herself using her own money and identity, vshojo was not involved at all despite all that stuff I said
Which one is it mousefags?

>>104172357
I know you have no clue what youre talking about but you pay on completion for models anon.

>>104172357
why use her own money when she has 500k stolen money? make it make sense.

>>104172483
>you pay on completion for models
Not necessarily. It's common to pay in two parts (on commission and then on completion). If you have a good relationship with the artist, you may pay up front. Payment may also be continuous if you decide to add more to the scope of the project.

Those two models were done by people Mouse has worked with before, so it's entirely possible that she paid up-front.
Staggered or on-completion payment are done as a safety measure for the buyer, but if the artist is trusted then it's not really an issue.

>>104172511
Why steal when she has enough money already?

>>104172620
All the money she has is based on lies, we all know her past, ofc she will steal money her lies could be exposed to the masses any day.

>>104172660
And what lies are those? Because I know her past too and I'm not seeing any lies.

>>104172620
It is extremely uncommon to pay before completion, idk who you heard this from, maybe it's different for mousey sized chuubas but all the 2-3-4 views I've spoken to have said it's pay on completion, with maybe a small upfront payment to confirm the comm.

>>104172682
you lying if you say you know her past and that she has never lied, look up mouse in the archives

>>104172705
>all the 2-3-4 views I've spoken to

>>104172733
No, I know. It's hard not to when people like you sperg out about it every single day.

>>104172828
>he actually doesn't know
okay nevermind I didn't realise I was arguing with an honest to god mouse fan, I thought you were baiting.

>>104172828
Sorry was my English too hard for you, I meant that I've spoken to many chuubas who have 10 to 5k views, I'm a vtuber with a sizable audience myself so I'm also speaking from my own experiences.

>>104172867
You can go ahead and say it. Mods don't seem to give a shit anymore.
But I'm telling you, there are no lies there. You just don't understand the concepts of chronic illness or linear time.

>>104172916
No I knew what you meant
I just don't believe you at all
>I'm a vtuber with a sizable audience myself
Then why were you just deferring to "people I've talked to" instead of your personal experience?
Because I have experience commissioning a model, and it was pay half on commission, half on completion. In shopping for a model I saw many artists offering similar arrangements, and some who would only take payment up-front.

What is so entertaining about this whore why she has so many defenders? Unless these are vshojo paid interns, but that's not likely because....well...

>>104173005
I'm not talking about her "illness" anon, she has a much bigger secret than that.

>>104173068
i do not like her but still take every opportunity to dunk on uneducated thirdies who don't understand medicine

>>104173005
I gave you my personal experience you refuted with no evidence so I backed up my claim by revealing its peer reviewed, not just myself but EVERYONE I've spoken to is the same.

>>104170877 (OP)
man not even the hololive girls gased up yagoo like this. this seems so manipulative reading now

>>104173091
Yeah, I know.
And I know that you think it's proof that her illness is fake.
But it's not.

>>104173106
>he actually unironically thinks I'm talking about her illness
kek

>>104173124
>trust me bro, I'm a big vtuber and all my vtuber friends say I'm right

>>104173131
No you really don't know, it has literally nothing to do with her illness, she lost her infant daughter through neglect because she streamed every day instead of watching her. Fuck it I'll take the ban if it happens

>>104173149
>he thinks i think that because he barely understands english and missed the subtext
double kek

>>104173207
yeah bro you're right you definitely were referring to what I was talking about, your posts make total sense in the context.

>>104173205
>lost
Well, that's a new one.
I think you may have gotten that information from an unreliable source.

You've never seen the archived tweets from years before she started streaming, I take it.

>>104173274
thank you for admitting your mistake.

>>104173301
No I have you haven't seen the final one I take it where she posted that they took her away before she promptly deleted it, I saw the tweet with my own eyes.

>>104173312
>now that you've posted what you actually meant I can pretend I always knew
triple kek

>>104173332
I think if that was real I would have heard about it by now.
>I saw the tweet with my own eyes.
You never knew who Mouse was before she started streaming so that's not possible.
If this happened it would've been over 10 years ago.

>>104172340
Had you read the rest you’d see I was being ironic.

>>104173408
believe that if you want :) it will be easier for you to cope.

>>104173476
Anon there are archived tweets mentioning her many years before Mouse had ever started streaming. So no, your story cannot possibly be true.
In fact I think there are surviving clips from the YouNow days where she can be heard. You know, speaking. Something that you need to be a few years old to be able to do.

>>104173610
2 year olds can speak anon, you're an infant until 5, she lost her at the age of 4 maybe 5

>>104173772
>you're an infant until 5
You are only considered an infant for the first year or so. After that you're a toddler.

And no, the tweets I'm referencing are still too old for this to be true.
Also, for the stated reason, because she was streaming every day.
https://twitchtracker.com/ironmouse/streams
Mouse started streaming on YouNow in 2017
So it took her two years and change to even begin streaming regularly.
For the entirety of 2020, she was streaming for 3 hours on average.
July 30th 2021 is the first stream that meets or exceeds the length of a shift of full-time work, at 9.8 hours.
In other words, the idea that she was too busy streaming is demonstrably false.

You could maybe, maybe squeak by from her first subathon in 2022... if that weren't 4.5 years after she started streaming, putting the age range completely off track for what you're claiming.
And it would only work if Mouse lived alone, which she doesn't.

>>104170877 (OP)
Crazy how one can go six months without getting paid and not see or hear or even question any of it. Especially when a coworker's boyfriend is in charge of payment

>>104173976
she literally tweeted out that she had to have her mother look after her because of streaming and then like 3 months later (seemingly while drunk) she tweeted "they took her I didn't realise she had been getting hurt by her (her mother)" and then she deleted it 12 mins later.

>>104174085
>promptly deleted it
>actually it was 12 minutes later and she was drunk (which she can't do because of her illness but I'm not claiming her illness is fake by the way)
You're not very good at this

There is no possible way that it was up for 12 minutes and nobody screenshot it or archived it or ever mentioned it in any of the thousands of Mouse seethe threads that are on this board every single day.

>>104174193
> this was 10 years ago before anyone knew who she was
> THERES NO WAY NO ONE SCREENSHOTTED THIS
okay anon time to stop larping.
also she used to get drunk all the time before her illness got worse

>>104174818
>before her illness got worse
Which was many years before she started streaming.

You're gonna have to work on this rrat if you want it to be even remotely believable because the timeline is completely fucked.

>>104175380
I mean I don't know what to tell you anon, she lied about alot of stuff that's my point, you're saying "nuh uh" to my posts but using her lies as evidence.

>>104175512
And this entire conversation you have shown no evidence other than hearsay and "trust me."
Every time I poke a hole you change the story.

The narrative you've presented to me falls apart just by looking at raw facts. How can she have been taken at 4-5 when Mouse wouldn't have been in such a position until 4-5 years into her streaming career, and she was already speaking age from the beginning? You haven't even offered a timeframe for this supposed deleted tweet.

>>104175703
I didn't change the story at all we just differ in opinion on what's infant and what promptly means.

>>104176097
how old do you think her kid currently is?

>>104175703
>she literally tweeted out that she had to have her mother look after her because of streaming and then like 3 months later
no time frame btw.

>>104176126
She's 11/12.

>>104176097
Those aren't matters of opinions, you're just really bad at making shit up and thought I'd be stupid enough to buy it.

>>104176128
I'm talking about years. Where in her career did this supposedly happen?

>>104170953
>>104170877 (OP)
she literally did keep half of the charity money to herself, the only question is if she did it for the other half of it too

>>104176173
I mean they are tho? I consider under 5 an infant and promptly being less than 15 mins. The same year as the other tweets obviously, 3 months later like I said. Are you esl? You seem to be struggling to read, and you're doing that esl thing where you think English can only mean 1 exact thing and isn't loose.

>>104176281
>The same year as the other tweets
which year was that?

>>104176281
>The same year as the other tweets obviously
And what year was that? You never said.
>where you think English can only mean 1 exact thing and isn't loose.
You will never find anyone else referring to a 4 year old as an infant.

>>104176349
ahh I see I googled it and Americans really think infant means to 1 yesr old only, my bad, I'm British.
I thought you'd seen those tweets anon? 2014.

>>104176349
oh wait you thought I was talking about these tweets? No I'm talking about her 2nd younger daughter.

>>104176492
Oh, now there's a second one
Sure thing champ

>>104176510
The archived links are still up in that image, those are real you can still check for yourself, you realize that right?

>>104176510
I thought it was weird you were going on like this, you've only seen the ones that still get posted here, I'm talking about the ones that were posted on the other site in 2021

>>104176567
>uh uh actually it's on "the other site" and nobody ever talked about it here because uhhhh

>going through vt
>see this thread
>read about it
>some mouseschizo for some fucking reason:
lmfao

>>104176621
I didn't say no one talked about it retard, my literal first reply to you was telling you to read the archive.

>>104176932
I'm saying no one talked about it.
I've been in enough of these threads to know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2wtIIT9hMU
any liggers hosting any concerts this month?

How she put so much trust on them to not even check if they gave the money to the charity is beyond me.

>>104170877 (OP)
interesting, isnt it?

>>104171131
Why don't you explain this on stream, mouse

>>104181942
It's literally in her video, those were the first facts we ever knew about it.

>>104170953
Proof this happened?

kek

>>104173068
Well, majority of Vshojofags are Mouse "fans". Besides, the company is gone and who's the current richest person who needs help with damage control now?

>>104170877 (OP)
I'm very much looking forward to the day that Ironmouse gets exposed for the fraud whore that she truly is.

>>104170877 (OP)
>>104170953
stop noticing

>>104170877 (OP)
I can't believe she stole all that charity money. Is it just a thrill for her to see what she can get away with? She's already rich.
And the crazy thing is, she's already running more subathons for more money.

thread summary:
in early days Mouse was testing different pity baits: from a chronic illness to a tragic child loss.
in current days Mouse keeps 100% of donations to herself.

WHOLESOME
CHUNGUS

>>104192149
>she's already running more subathons for more money.
subathons doko? or was she running zen and michis?

Every single time I see Mouse in an OP, and it's not /xvsj/, I just know the entire thread is gonna be a tard battle royale.
Antis think the voices in their heads constitute proof of... whatever it is they're angry about with Mouse this week, and mousefags are absolutely incapable of not responding to even the most obvious of bait.

>>104189801
2 more weeks.

>>104170877 (OP)
She waited until she had enough dirt on gunrunn to burry him

>>104192761
she has one on twitch and two on tiktok

She was pulling a comically corrupt move, literally something that has been joked about for decades as an obvious attempt to steal money

>>104192464
Got nothing to base that on but I believe this rrat just because she's an evil subhuman cunt
Sociopath needs to get a real illness for all the grifting she's done. Brain cancer would be nice.

>>104192847
I don't think you know what a subathon is.

>>104193548
BASED