Thread 104257746

What are your honest opinions on Shondo?

>>104257746 (OP)
Destined to have a catfight with Nimi.

>>104257746 (OP)
she called out other vtubers for hiding boyfriends even though she has a boyfriend herself which makes her an idiot hypocrite

>>104257746 (OP)
Imagine getting to pound her british pussy every night. Michael is so lucky...

>>104257746 (OP)
sellout mythic

>>104257746 (OP)
I think she could have had a thing but the fact that she hangs out with male streamers and her male groomer mods and spends so much extra time with them in private playing games and watching games ruins her and makes her unsupportable

Better than every Phase tallent combined

>>104257746 (OP)
hypocrite but breedable

>>104257746 (OP)
>I fucking hate gfe

>>104257746 (OP)
R

>>104257746 (OP)
I want to get her pregnant

>>104257746 (OP)
Honest opinion:
She's really talented in terms of voice acting and ASMR, and she can be really funny, but sometimes she overmilks the same jokes, plus her obvious mental illnesses and the fanbase she cultivates makes her a difficult watch. It sometimes feels like a human zoo, and that honestly makes me uncomfortable
IMO, I'd just stick to the occasional clip or her gimmick streams. Barry and Sho were fun.

>>104257746 (OP)
I like her and she seems funny,
I feel sympathy for her family situation and her debilitating schizophrenia and ligma addiction.

>>104257856
proof?

My first stream of hers was the half life stream and that imploded and then her mom died so it just seems like theres and incredible amount of turmoil and drama around this poor girl. I didnt not watch after that stream.

>>104257746 (OP)
she's better when she's doing her hag voice

>>104257746 (OP)
Hypocrite, liar, manipulator and overall piece of shit.

>>104257746 (OP)
who?

>>104257746 (OP)
I love her the most out of any human on earth, but her jewishness and the fact she is a woman is really evident

Outside of her schizo crashouts and a cute model, she's kinda boring.

few people will ever receive the amount of sympathy, love, and affection that she does despite her actions. while her intentions may be good, over time her behavior has become increasingly self-serving, with little regard for those around her.

Don't like her voice (or well, the voice she puts on for "Shondo"), it's too ear grating and annoyingly child-like (even more than Kobo's), and I hate most of her fanbase's behavior outside of her streams
But I never had a problem with her personally, and I will always respect her for being really strong and taking care of her family in these extremely difficult moments, she did not deserve this

>>104257746 (OP)
She's starting to become annoying with the Phasepandering

>>104259139
Do your fucking reps, keyword 'michael'

>>104257746 (OP)
Her asmr helps me sleep haven't watched anything else of hers

>>104257746 (OP)
She exists. She will say something funny every now and then. Other than that idc

>>104260697
>look it up
>It's literally nothing
Everyone who says this phrase is retarded for trying to deflect with muh lurk moar.

The kinda woman you should never get close with
Even as a fan
But she's a decent entertainer

>>104261809
What possesses you to cope like this. Unless you're actually being paid by shondo to run deflection, it's pathetic behavior.

>>104261885
realistically it's not concrete evidence, but she doesn't really have any good explanations for it either, so it's kind of a wash

>>104261919
It's pretty concrete evidence. There is no other credible explanation, and her banning spree afterwards and suppression of discussion of it reinforces the most likely explanation even more.

>>104257746 (OP)
I want to lick her tight loli cunny

>>104261956
There was no banning spree, and the bannings that did happen were because she bans antis bringing a rrat from 4xhat into chat. It was also her mods that banned people, not her personally
She has an explanation, but i don't agree with it

>>104261956
It's obviously really suspicious, but I'd say concrete evidence would be something like a photo or audio clips of a man, or even a slip up by a friend. The available freudian slips isn't nearly convincing enough for the majority of her viewer

>>104257746 (OP)
If tall girls like her can be a cute loli, anybody can be a cute loli

Don't let your dreams be dreams

>>104257746 (OP)
I like the times when she was all uoh cunny sex (cute!) and talked a lot about hentai games like Teaching Feeling or Black Souls

>>104257746 (OP)
Been a fan of her before she was ever labelled Shondo, before she ever streamed. I remember the first video I ever watched of hers was the suicide pact ASMR (which she eventually took down for good reason) years and years ago.

She's a good girl with a sweet heart thrust into a position of responsibility of which she was never prepared for or deserved. I'm surprised she hasn't had infinitely more yabs than what she has done currently given her mental state.

>>104257746 (OP)
Unreasonably sexy, kind, and is often right

>>104262053
Whether the majority of her viewers know is a completely separate thing though. The majority of Lumi's viewers (Forgive me for bringin up ph*se) probably also don't know she has a boyfriend, yet the proof there is equally concrete (the oblivion yab) without a literal male voice on stream. The majority of Zen's viewers probably think he's a woman. I think it's beyond just suspicious at the very least.

>>104257746 (OP)
she should start a fansly and spread her pussy open

>>104261956
There is literally no concrete evidence of anything

>>104260160
she wants to get in
>inb4 that discord screenshot
she changed her mind

>>104262120
Capital ASMR was better

>>104262169
>t. Michael

>>104262219
>t. Actual fucking retard

>>104257746 (OP)
TALL WEEB POWER COUPLE

>>104262149
>cannot help but mention all his favorite recent schizo posts
Take your meds.

>>104262345
I brought them up as comparable situations where the conclusions is unambiguous even lacking a direct confession or male voice on stream. You want people to not bring up examples in conversation?

>>104257746 (OP)
>"killed" her mom to try to end the Michael discussion

>>104262467
You're fucking disgusting. I'm not the biggest fan of shondo but the fact that you jump straight to thinking someone made up such a personal tragedy for clout reflects your rotten personality. It wouldn't even make any sense because she can't use her mother for content anymore. Fuck off.

how many of you would pay to see her get fucked by Michael live on cam
be honest

>>104257746 (OP)
I have enjoyed her streams before, but her interest in violence towards female children is disturbing. Unironically 2spooky4me.

>>104262533
wasn't she doxxed by her mom dying? she definitely didn't make it up

>>104262731
it's her lore, she's an eldtritch horror being

>>104262149
did Lumi say some guys name on stream?

>>104257746 (OP)
i have unconditional love for every loli

>>104262824
Arguably worse, she started Oblivion and it default loaded into a completely different male character. Gumis tried to cope by saying it was Steam family share, that it must be her brother's save, yet Steam family share literally does not do that (nor did Lumi claim that). She panicked, scrubbed that half hour from the VOD and put up a static screen saying there was 'just some boring lockpicking' going on so she cut it.

>>104262952
>scrubbed that half hour from the VOD
that's such a stupid thing to do, just make some shit up woman

>>104257746 (OP)
Whore.

>>104257746 (OP)
She's a clout chasing grifter that complained about gfe and talents having boyfriends, despite making sleeping with wet kisses asmr and having a boyfriend. I've seen much worse, but it's a reason to dislike her.

>>104257746 (OP)
I get filtered by her voice so I've never bothered to watch her content. But I am grateful that she is a lightning rod for schizos and other undesirables of this hobby.

>>104260007
>>104263347
which one has the best loli voice?

used to watch her until she started catering more to the chuds in her audience. she's not Kirsche-level shitty and she can be pretty funny but meh

>>104263464
You're not fooling anybody, you never watched her at all and you're only posting in the catalog to shill your politics

>gfe streamer
>boyfriend yab
Grim

>>104257746 (OP)
Good enough filler.

>>104263501
I did, actually. Her pro-fictional loli stance was why I stayed around.
I don't think she's a bad vtuber, but there's only so much ironic chuddery that I can swallow, personally

>>104262952
>yet Steam family share literally does not do that (nor did Lumi claim that)
Not defending Lumi but she definitely claimed she has family share and that it is her brothers save.

>>104263464
Are you one of those unironic trannies from /shon/

>>104262149
Comparing this shit to the Lumi nothingburger really doesn't help your point anon.

>>104263464
>>104263584
It's 2025 and being a chud is ubiquitous and normie tier these days. You're simply out of touch with internet culture.

>>104263584
you swallow lots of cock though anon

>>104263464
>>104263584
I dunno man, I saw a clip of her saying "Hitler nooo" and that was pretty funny
Reminded me of Filian a bit

>>104263590
You're right, she did claim it was her brother's save and that she uses family share, but she went with just 'I don't know how that got there', at most implying maybe steam did it.
>It MUST be family share
was pushed by gumis. When that failed, they tried
>It MUST have been OneDrive
which made even less sense. Not only does that require Lumi to set up Onedrive on a non-default location to share game saves, it would be a gigantic breach of contract to share files on her work PC with someone else, even if it were her brother.

I know you weren't arguing the contrary, but the simplest explanation is pretty obvious: her bf just played oblivion on her pc because she has a gaming pc.

>>104263624
Fyren, just go fuck Lumi or something, why are you deflecting on /vt/?

What if it's Lumi herself defending

>>104263464
>>104263584
are americans really this mindbroken with identity politics? chuddery doesn't even come to mind when I think of shondo

>>104263818
They are so delusional
They would consider the average Japanese person a chud because they have a culture of discipline and harmony that immigrants and foreigners don't have

>>104263880
i wonder what he thinks of this >>104252066

Anytime I see someone harassing my oshi publicly on twitter they have shondo oshi marks.

>>104263644
no it isn't

>>104263818
It's subtle. Like I said, she's not Kirsche-level bad, she's just more irritating than entertaining to me now.

>>104264018
Yes it is. People have had enough of foreigners committing crimes. Anyone who disagrees defends criminals.

>>104264037
How? in what way do you think she's a chud as opposed to your average Japanese vtuber that dislikes people who don't respect social discipline or their culture?

>>104263971
who's your oshi?

>>104264111
kumogorogoro

>>104257746 (OP)
She is a good one.
Plagued by schizo antis though, does not deserve it.

>>104264049
Retards like Johnny Somali, Kurds, and the American rapists in Okinawa really is a catalyst. It makes me wonder if those Retards are government plants to push an agenda. Even your average JP vtuber is reporting on them.

>>104264101
She's made jokes about women getting jobs they aren't qualified for because of DEI in at least one stream (I think it was Half-Life 2). Even if she was just joking, it was delivered with a wink and a nudge to the chuds in her audience. I find that shit tiresome.
>>104264049
Everything is possible when you lie, I suppose.

>>104264174
is Kurds a person, or are you referring to the entire ethnic group?

Cute and boring

>>104264182
It's not a lie. A lot if not most of the crimes committed in Japan are by foreigners. There are grooming gangs in Europe doing the same thing. Politicians are being bribed to overlook crimes by foreigners. Even in Japan, nuisance streamers hadn't been a big issue until Logan Paul and Somali did them in. I could keep going on and on. Normies are now just realizing how toxic wokeness is.

>>104257746 (OP)
breedable whore

>>104264182
>women getting jobs even if they aren't qualified
That's called a diversity quota and that's a real thing, not a joke. She's 100% right about that as well, that's also a normie take, not a chud take. Even leftists would tell you exactly that, but sugar-coat it.

>>104264182
jesus christ grow thicker skin
you're on 4chan of all places and can't handle the mildest possible sexist joke?

>>104264312
>wokeness
go back to /pol/ dipshit

>>104264456
Go back to where? for telling the truth? Your average uncle Joe would have this opinion without being /pol/, retard. Nowadays JP vtubers also have this opinion due to the rise in crimes committed by foreigners.

>>104264415
Those were put into place because unqualified dipshits often got the spot over qualified women, not the other way around.
>>104264427
You or someone else posted this thread asking for my honest opinion. I gave it to you. I didn't call for her censorship or whateverthefuck, I just don't want to watch her. You're the one who needs thicker skin.

>>104264506
I'm not offended by you not wanting to watch her, I just think your reason is stupid.

>>104264506
Unqualified dipshits got the spot because that's the purpose of diversity quotas. It's the same affirmative action preventing qualified Asians from getting into a good institution or a job, while blacks have a much lower bar to get hired or accepted due to that. Nobody is saying it's one way or another. It's a wokeness issue.

>>104264607
>wokeness
opinion invalidated

>>104264654
>no argument
>can't differentiate normies from chuds
I accept your concession. Next time, use your brain. That's if it hadn't been rotted away with your backwards political beliefs.

>cannot even handle a mildly right-wing joke
and progressives wonder why the average person thinks they're a humorless wokescold. The DEI joke was incredibly tame. Ironically, I do think Shondo plays it up for her chud audience a little, but that's a poor example

>>104264654
Bro, hiring people based on how qualified they are is a sane and rational take
Meanwhile insane retards think DEI hires are a good thing as opposed to hiring based on how qualified someone is
Guess which ideology hires someone based on their race like Nazis did

It's useless. That retard thinks all Japanese vtubers are chuds. You can't reason with stupid.

>>104263958
Kind of gross that this whole forced immigration shit is purely to make population number go up

>>104264686
It'd be like arguing with someone over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. It's a fucking stupid argument, made by a fucking stupid person (You)
>>104264743
>Bro, hiring people based on how qualified they are is a sane and rational take
Yeah, that's why DEI is in place. Because otherwise, only the dipshit white friends of the white admins get in.
>>104264737
I handled it just fine. I left the audience. Didn't try to spam her stream, didn't launch a hate campaign, didn't lose my shit in any other way. I just left.

synonymous with several other vtubers that are too edgy for me they all give off this aura of malice as if i should be scared it only gets worse when they feign innocence too

>>104264839
Wow, so you really are a racist defending against hiring qualified people simply because you hate whites being hired
Notice how in his example he used Asians yet you're attacking White people, since that's all you've been programmed to do

>>104264839
Well now I want you to know that I think you're a humorless naive moron. I've seen too many grifters exploiting diversity initatives for me to think it's a good idea.
The worst part about DEI is that you'll never be able to get rid of it once you implement it. Just look at Malaysia.

>>104264929
>Wow, so you really are a racist defending against hiring qualified people simply because you hate whites being hired
>Notice how in his example he used Asians yet you're attacking White people, since that's all you've been programmed to do
No one with half a brain would read post that you quoted and think that's what I'm arguing.
>>104264963
Sure you have.

>>104264839
You really need to get your head out of your ass and use your brain anon. You're sad and pathetic, trying to defend a failed ideology due to sunk cost fallacy. What I said were all rational takes and barely political. Hiring people based on quality instead of race is a rational take. Preventing criminals being imported is also a rational take. Yet you seem to disagree with that and attack White people specifically for some reason.

>>104260697
She said a man's name once and you think that's proof she has a boyfriend? You're delusional.

>"progressive" on 4chan
Can't believe y'all are falling for this

>>104264456
go cut your dick off, sister.

>>104265032
>What I said were all rational takes
>All foreigners are criminals
Dude, you're just a chud. Own it.

>>104265039
>once
>still coping
Let me guess, you think shondo is small in real life too? And never had a boyfriend? Oh wait, she was forced to discuss that on stream so I guess you do accept that one lol.

>>104265012
at this point you're just arguing with yourself bruh. get ahold of yourself before you try saying those deranged takes

>>104265115
Oh no, was it twice? That must mean they're married!

>>104265083
Nah, I'm a cis dude. I like my dick.

>>104265039
>cat named Otis
>nickname is somehow Michael
>this nickname is never ever brought up again and anyone talking about it is banned

>>104265106
>All foreigners are criminals
This was never said, yet you're lying about what he said as a last ditch effort

>>104265128
I might be arguing with a bot, sure. Problem is that bots are taken seriously unless the shit that they're trained on is pushed back against.

She's streaming right now.

https://www.twitch.tv/fallenshadow

>>104265150
>anyone talking about it is banned
It was one guy, and of course someone that comes into your stream just to cause trouble is going to be banned.

>watching her boomer shooter vod
>"oh good the second floor is accessible I was worried about the disabled people in this universe"
Kek
She's good at quips at least. If she wasn't the mentally ill imouto who had beef with nimi she'd probably be more popular.

All these "boyfriend" schizos truly were seething trannies the whole time huh, not surprised.

>>104265106
That's not true at all, but some cultures are more prone to criminal activity without constant oversight. As the saying goes, "Old habits die hard". The Johnny Somali nutcases are from the outside, not from within.

>>104265252
They're just trying to get at her over the manager stuff, that's why they desperately cling to this narrative even though it's the biggest reach of all time.

>>104265137
>still coping and deflecting
We all call out a man's name when we're scared and want him to come help us since he's nearby, you're so right anon.

>>104265181
What bot? With your sunk cost fallacy retardation, you'd more likely to be the brain-dead NPC here

>>104265275
>I'm not a racist, but here's a racist thing that I believe
You gotta bury the lede a bit more than this, chud.

>>104265318
There's nothing to deflect from, because you have nothing. It's just desperate flailing.

>>104265139
>>104265252
>>104265299
Least obvious samefagging tranny

>>104265355
>can't even address the point
Don't think anyone reading missed that you ignored the question about other obvious shondo lies either, some of which recanted later. I'm just about ready to accept your concession, but give it a shot.

>>104265344
Where is the lie? Aren't you the one attacking white people in the first place? Why are you calling me racist for telling the truth? And that doesn't even involve race, but culture. You're projecting hard.

>>104265251
I mean, even this joke is kind of lame. Even some boomer shooters make an attempt to be accurate to real-life places (like Duke Nukem 3D). What's the punchline, here? Disabled people exist? Hardy har har.
If there's context that I'm missing here, please supply it.

what do y'all reckon her favorite sex position is. Part of me thinks she's a basic bitch missionary girl but the other part wonders if she loves being anally railed. Who knows.

>>104265379
I can't address what isn't there, now say "concession accepted" or whatever canned cope phrase.

>>104265396
You're a woman aren't you.

>>104265344
>Having equal opportunities for all races is le racist you chud!!
Dayum nigga you live like this?

>>104265414
>short woman
>likes BIG guys
Alaskan Sunrise is her favorite.

>>104265443
Cis dude, actually. What do you have against women?

>>104265396
I think it's clear you just don't have a sense of humor.

>>104265425
>cucked out of answering the question yet again
Yup, I'm calling it, I accept your concession.

>>104264456
>literally demanding to send people back
So now you finally understand why open borders and/or unchecked immigration is a mistake lmfao

>>104265572
It's so funny how you demand to be taken seriously

>>104265474
>short
wut? She's posted on main that she above average height for a woman even if she were from the country with the tallest people on Earth.

>>104265610
You're giving him too much credit. He's unironically brain-dead and can't see how hypocritical him and his beliefs are.

>>104265610
for people to go back*
Fuck it im drunk

>>104265610
I mean, you can keep whatever basement you're posting from if you're mom hasn't kicked you out of it yet.

>>104265654
>He's unironically brain-dead and can't see how hypocritical him and his beliefs are.
I don't think that I would be able to post at all after experiencing unironic brain death, Alanis.

>>104265476
>use of 'cis' instead of 'normal'
You're 100% a woman.

>>104257746 (OP)
I like her humor but I can't stand the overly cutesy baby voice she does so I simply don't watcch her.

>>104259139
>>104262219
>>104262053
shondo incriminated herself on her own stream and in her own tweets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrUDwef87Bc&ab_channel=CunnyClips

>>104265862
I'm 100% not a chud, because I don't whine about being placed on the same level as trans people like you do. I was assigned male at birth, and that happened to be correct. That's all that "cis" means.

>>104265993
It must be difficult being this illiterate

>>104265796
It just means they're using their political programming as the processing unit of their beliefs instead of their brain by reflex. It's an analogy where the spinal cord does a similar job overriding brain signals when it comes to reflexes, thus receiving no inputs from the brain but from a much closer source.

>>104266088
yes being a shondocuck must be hell

>>104265754
>having a sane normie take must mean you live in a basement
Woke retards aren't sending their best

>>104266119
Oh damn, I guess I have to explain it to you, you posted stuff about her ex-boyfriend, which she's never attempted to hide.

>>104265993
>6"6
She was getting creampied every night
Nice oshi cucks lol

>>104266170
even if you believe she broke up with the guy from yt vid the tweet is about her current bf

>>104266015
99% of men are chuds and the remaining 1% are trannies you are clearly a woman stop lying you dumb bitch, I bet you can't even make a fucking sandwich.

>>104265610
TRVTH NVKE

>>104266208
False

>>104266170
>which she's never attempted to hide.
Amount of meetings that only happened once predicted to quadruple in the next three years

>>104266156
>"Woke"
>I'm the normal-brained one

>>104266356
Yeah whatever that means, right on.

>>104266220
>99% of men are chuds
I doubt that.
>I bet you can't even make a fucking sandwich
The 2000's called, they want their insult back

>>104266388
>>104266443
lol

lefty melty!

>>104266416
You too shoomfie

This thread is a good reminder that whenever leftists point at others for being racist, bigoted, or nazi, there are 3 fingers pointing back at them. They judge and segregate people based on race, they want to hire people based on race, they tell you to go back where you came from despite their ideology defending open borders for illegals. They shit on others for the things that apply to themselves.

>>104266620
>This thread is a good reminder that chuds will repeat the same 3 bullshit talking points ad nauseum in the hopes that everyone will give up and let them get what they want
Not this time, bitch.

>>104265993
Anon, we were talking about the new boyfriend, which she is hiding, not the old one.

>>104266679
>insane people gives up on spouting their lies and fallacies
and that's a good thing

>>104266741
Whose existence is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt because she spoke his name once or twice.

on the side note
what makes a girl that lets say was getting fucked in every hole for 10 years but it happened some time ago better for unicorns than a girl who currently is getting fucked
either way she's used goods and her pair-bonding is irreversibly damaged

I love her guys (I never watch her streams)

>>104266477
Kek

>>104266855
>reductionism
Okay anon, offer one (1) credible alternative explanation for her behavior in that stream, and the ban spree following it

>>104267008
What else would you do to people coming into your stream solely to cause drama?

>>104266477
lmao what is this from

>>104267047
>no alternative explanation
That's what I thought. The only mystery is why you're so invested in protecting her financial interests. Do you get paid, are you Noncium/dewd/some other pedo regular from the discord?

Does anyone want to have big anal sex?

>>104267080
I'm not going to try to explain the actions of a schizophrenic woman, feel free to answer my question now.

>>104266819
Where are the lies? The same chud ones you keep spouting?

By the comments on here I think it's funny how the only explanation is that Shondo herself is trying to run defense about her boyfriend, because is either that or the guy defending her is just as dumb as it gets.

>comments
They out themselves so quickly

>>104267115
>schizophrenia cope
of course, how could I not see this coming. This, uniquely, must be absolutely true despite no real proof from shondo and therefore is a get-out-of-jail free card for anything (not what schizophrenia even is), but anything else with no """"real"""" proof cannot be trusted.

>>104267179
Cool it with the ableism, chud.

You guys need to have friendship sex

>>104267133
Chuds don't lie, they meme trvkes
Anti-chuds are delusional however and attack normies like they're chuds

>>104267133
I bet you don't know the difference between a chud, a normie, and a groyper

>>104267133
One of the biggest lies they make is calling normies chuds. They treat a sane Japanese vtuber's takes as a chud take.

hypocrite whore
at least she stopped pretending she's not a chuddie grifter and embraced it

Based on this thread, the 3 core tenets of anti-chuds are as follows:
>Hypocrisy
>Projection
>Lying

>>104263404
Panko or Saba

>>104265993
>5'7
dropped. fuck that. enjoy your giraffe wife i guess.

>>104257746 (OP)
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>>104257746 (OP)
Her cookies had too much baking soda

>>104264743
>Guess which ideology hires someone based on their race like Nazis did
muricans, amarite?

>>104266198
I think normal height couples also have sex anon

>>104257746 (OP)
I have never watched a single stream or clip of hers but I do follow her on twitter. I don't even know what she sounds like.

>>104268559
Brownest post I've seen on this board

>>104269011
stfu shondo you will never be a real loli

>>104269286
we already saw her chest, she is a loli as long as you are taller than her

>>104269396
would you still watch shondo if she turned out to be a 250lb black woman? it's like that for me. her whole persona feels like a lie now.

>>104257746 (OP)
she's based for calling out filian mods.

my earnest opinion from a long time observing her
>she's entertaining, good at what she does
>she's a tortured existence who is admirable for still fighting (being rich now can't hurt at least)
>she's chosen some poor ways to cope in the past and dragged down others with it
>she's desperate for a very particular form of affection that won't trigger her trauma making for the most bizarre and schizophrenic set of boundaries a chuuba ever had
>she's acknowledged issues in her community downstream of all this and tried to make change, but too little too late
>much as she hates people tearing down others for her sake she does it a fucking lot, probably her most glaring fault that she's blind to, typical womanism
>she has a rigid code you can't expect from most especially many years into becoming popular on a general stage
>super fucking stubborn, always complains about advice before realizing a year later that she needed it
>you understand her indignance towards her fans at times like the above though because 90% of the chats are from the same 30 manchildren who make her life hell and ruined GFE for everyone

>>104257746 (OP)
hypocrite whore.
she play along for now, but once she don't need the money anymore she will turn against her audience.

>>104269916
she already did, she's talking up how much she hates intimacy and GFE now that the paypigs are in too deep and she has a much more sizable twitch normie viewerbase to buy her merch when the paypigs self destruct as they have been

>>104263584
I can't imagine following a vtuber just because she agrees with your political/cultural viewpoints.

>>104264312
>A lot if not most of the crimes committed in Japan are by foreigners
Forgot your shitty per capita argument there? Because that most of the crime in Japan is committed by foreigners is patently absurd.

>>104265993
>6’6 boyfriend
it’s all so tiresome

>>104265054
Prior to 2016, most anons on 4chan were edgy, yet fairly progressive sorts. I guess apolitical would be more accurate, but definitely not outright "chuds" as we know them to day since those kinds of posters would get laughed out as stormfags. Remember pre-culture war things like Anonymous or Project Chanology?

>>104270732
>noooo you can't just have natural selection

>>104261809
Without fail, it means whatever they have is flimsy enough that it's sounds pathetic to just type out directly. When there's an actual story people tend to be happy to tell it

>>104270857
Natural selection is when women go for men that beat, rape and steal because they’re 6’6, muscular and handsome

>>104269490
leaving behind the fact that a person like that wouldn't even be able to have that voice without a bunch of effects, she still isn't your average adult woman though and imagine she still has child like features on her face considering her stories (not that strange desu)

>>104269767
>>she's chosen some poor ways to cope in the past and dragged down others with it
tldr? I got that she suffered from bedrot something quite common for kids raised by the internet (like me) and having a chronicle depressive familiar is quite sad (I also had them) and also that she mention smoking but what else? drugs to cope with her issues?

>>104257746 (OP)
she sounds like lily hopkins. she sounds fake and she can be very hypocritical

>>104271681
Women want strong men, not just in body but in character
The reason it seems like they keep going for bad men is because it takes strength to be bad
It takes strength to be truly good too, a weak man will claim to be moral but isn't in a position to even know if he would do those things or not (this is you)

>>104270645
I don't even need to check the stats to know that violent crimes in japan are usually committed by foreigners (aka brown people)
>>104264504
speaking of japanese tubers do they have their own version of "the industrial society" and "the west has fallen" spam?

>>104271961
fundamentally the obsession bordering worship that she demanded of her fans in the past is how she copes with being touch averse and feeling she can't function in real relationships and having major abandonment issues
she did have substance problems on numerous occasions too, only once of note while she was a vtuber though
I wouldn't say her fixation on guro is bad coping but I think involving other people probably isn't best, it's made a bunch of weirdos performatively talk about abuse scenarios concerning her, but I guess overall not that harmful, just one aspect of how she tries to "make men worse" and capture them in her own unwellness and develop mutually toxic relationships that burnt her out a year or two ago

Fucking OP asked what people think about Shondo and it rapidly DEVOLVED into an argument about evolutionary biology and people seething about getting banned for being confrontational assholes in chat.
I like her and I think she's funny. I lurk in her streams sometimes but she's not my oshi.

>>104272050
>I don't need to do any research but--
Idiot.

>>104272153
>getting banned for being confrontational assholes
I wish they would be, most of those types are too far entrenched and she won't remove them until they really mess up

>>104272153
(Me) God damn it I meant evolutionary psychology

>>104262783
she was doxxed by her grandfather's death (the guy she used to call "dad"), not her mom's.

I liked it better when she screamed cunny
Parasocial behaviour is a 2 way street, I don't want to hear about her dead mom. You're a performing monkey for me, not a real person

>>104262533
>not her fan
>has an emotional crash out
Ok L.

>>104257746 (OP)
Very uoh too bad about her mum

>>104272301
nta but if I meet someone and find out they're that shitty of I person I'm gonna hate them too. Shondo discussion on 4chan is half actual psychopaths. Which I guess is okay because she's having fun with over 2500 people watching right now and saying this stream is awesome and these losers will never touch her.

>>104272142
there is absolutely nothing wrong with guro and ryona

>>104258813
What's ligma?

>>104272271
>I liked it better when she screamed cunny
/thread

>>104272409
Right. Not being a fan of someone, but being This sure she wouldn't be capable of doing something bad

>>104272421
thank you for not reading what I said

>>104272409
they already did "touch" her insofar as they've affected her psyche and she keeps many of them around

>>104272718
you said "i wouldn't say that guro is bad, but...", i say that there is no but, guro is great.
https://files.catbox.moe/f4hrqo.png

>>104272860
I'll never understand gurofags, why would one want to kill her?

>>104273243
she's too cute and pure for this world
also her shrieking streams as she suffers immensely are adorable in themselves

>>104273285 (me)
* screams

>>104273243
She drew that.
This is what I am talking about. She's crazy, but people still believe her.

>>104273285
>she's too cute and pure for this world
And thats why i'll protect her and do my best to shield her from the evils of this world, i'm a paladin at heart and her smile is worth fighting for...

>>104259719
she's literally me but without the first part :D

>>104273387
I can understand she drawing these but i dont get it why anyone would like to do stuff like that to her, i mean look at some of the guro fanfics some of her other fans wrote where they mutilate and kill her

>>104257746 (OP)
I’m mostly a Holochad, but what I’ve seen of Shondo is always great.
The clip of her telling e-whores they were being replaced, her “Males on stream!” clip, and other Shondo kino that has come my way has always been fucking hilarious.

I also think as a person she’s great. She has had to deal with some really hard shit in her life, and she is still very down to earth and genuine, and is kind to her fans. She’s a good chuuba.

>>104257746 (OP)
>honest opinions on Shondo
Lying bitch who definitely has a bf but pretends to be a single pickme. Also from her "mommy" voice I can tell she is at least in her late thirties.

>>104273243
>why would one want to kill her?
Cute aggression
>>104273387
was she is insane from the begging or was slippery slope? also why she in particular needed draw both guro and lolicon of her?

Shondo is actually at the very top of my "whore vtubers to avoid". Pippa is second, and third is Marimari 5 Guys, and fourth is Lumi. It's a funny coincidence that now 3 of them are in Phase Connect now.

>>104265993
Someone needs to post more of her old tweets. Also
>5.7 woman
Jesus she is a monster.

>>104273946
she has been insane since the beginning, when she was younger it was even worse (she tried to kill her mom with a knife while she was sleeping, for example).

>OH YES MICHAEL FUCK ME HARDER WITH YOUR HUGE BBC IM CUMMING OH MY GOOOOD
you give money to this whore

>>104274198
what did her mom's boyfriend/husband to her mom to make her so depressed?

>>104275338
her bf at the time: encouraging her not to take her meds.
her latest ex: leaving her while she was in pain at hospital.

>>104275467
single mom? that kinda explains everything, how many siblings she has? 2? is her mom a whore or just unlucky that her first husband left her/died?

>>104275714
she had a thing for "bad men", many of her exes ended up in prison. shondo has 4 half-siblings.

>>104275714
she has a brother who shares a dad and three sisters with different men each
mom never married in the first place
norf things

>>104275843
>the sexual revolution and it's consequences had been a disaster for humanity
I almost would like to fix her

>>104275030
Michael is black?!? Damn she must get pussy and asshole stretched out everyday. Good for her.

>>104272040
OR, you smoothbrain dumbass.
Bad men just lie better because they feel no guilt.
They tell the woman all the lies she wants to hear to get that pussy.

>>104272301
No I'm just upset when people reveal their incredible shitty personalities on this website, especially when it's clear it's not a joke or funny in any way. This is the second time I've seen someone say this. Another one that got to me recently was someone wishing Dokibird actually died so that the backlash would have been larger and there would be "total Holo victory". At the end of the day, it's just a fucking hobby watching cute anime girls prancing around on the screen. Call me a snowflake or whatever, but I'm just genuinely disgusted.

>>104257746 (OP)
I consider her a dishonest grifter desu. The way she always brings up other vtubers having boyfriends to highlight how she would never betray her fans like that is really scummy. Especially if you know. It's one thing to just never talk about dating or romance but when you're actively lying to your audience to collect money and present yourself as their romantic ideal idk it just makes me feel like you have zero respect for them. Really shitty thing to do.

>>104257746 (OP)
desperately needs to stop using twitter and discord

>>104277548
>use 4chan
>meet horrible people
>surprised pikachu
well done faggot.
You are a pot calling kettle black, just because you have slightly better moral.

>>104258183
>i fucking hate gfe
>i fucking hate loli
>i fucking hate age gap
>i fucking hate whores
>i fucking love 6'4+ chads

>>104262120
She yabbed all her old fans away after she became a normalfoid

>>104262952
>brother
LMAO that's already been cemented millenia ago as the horribly hidden code word for boyfriend

>>104265610
TRVKEY NVKEY

>>104266477
>neon red shirt
>glasses
>hard balding
literally redd1tman himself LOL

>>104266902
Even worse because now she's writing songs about him (look up the lyrics to Ribbon Cage)

>>104269767
>>90% of the chats are from the same 30 manchildren who make her life hell
These men deserve medals

>>104272000
lily makes me cum from asmr kissing though

>>104277548
>falling for the rage bait of obvious shitposters
holy shit fuck off fucking retard before you die from a self-inflicted aneurism

>>104265610
lmao owned

>>104274102
Those are also my top avoid, just swap Shondo and Lumi around

>>104272676
Everyone is capable of something bad. I'm sure the person who accused her of killing her mom is also a child rapist. How's that?
>>104272750
So what? She had a great stream today with 2500 people who enjoy her company while loser shitstains were here losing their minds about her.
>>104279967
>act shitty on 4chan
>get called out
>surprised pikachu

I only cared about her kissing asmrs and she doesn't do that anymore as far as I can see, plus others are doing it more consistently

>>104257746 (OP)
what are the chances for this orphan mesugaki of having a good ending? especially considering how the internet had affected her, like even she gets a (good) man irl isn't all of the attention she has gotten and her abandonment issues something that would end up fucking up her relation in the end?

>>104277548
that's the downside of sharing a hobby with third worlders

>>104279967
case in point, an ESL

>>104284908
Sigh. They still just get away with it. Women like this probably make up the majority of marriages. So many of my own family are exactly like that, and the men put up with it because they're simps/lazy/dumb and can't be assed to do much about it but just get fat and drunk or something. Old normal hags with a kid or more, dead marriages.

So most likely she'll just get old, haggy, and the knowledge of her dead-end scenario will force her memory to go bad as a coping mechanism, and she'll just be kind of psycho and act like some roaming enemy NPC. These are the weird old semi-belligerent people you see at walmart or taking public transit.

Either that, or does the druggie white trailer trash hag shit, or does the meme and becomes some kind of Christian (with good chance of still doing everything above).

>>104285445
Seems like you're writing a fanfic. These are things that have not happened. If this isn't a story you're writing, maybe try and be a little positive. Just a little. Might help your mental health.

Seems like a malicious and mean spirited boyfriend having woman that calls out others for the things she does herself

>>104265993
michael...

>>104280145
Just part of growing up and maturing. You forget she started posting on YouTube when she was about 14.

>>104273462
I need you to look up cuteness aggression.

>>104257746 (OP)
kinda cute and funny but too unstable to invest time into getting to know her properly or be a frequent watcher

>>104284908
her brother will eventually grow some balls, start taking care of his siblings in place of a disabled and mentally ill girl, giving shondo the peace of mind to finally just kill herself.

Not sure how the type of fan who liked her for being pro gfe and against whores hanging out with men would still be watching her after what she's been doing on discord

>>104290420
Jessie, sweetheart, what do you mean by that?