Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:41:49 AM
No.104272135
>>104272226
>>104276333
/shon/
headpat the Shondo
>who?
If you aren't aware, Fallenshadow is the most hard-working schizo loli on the internet and enjoys the company of her husbands very much! Please treat her well.
>links
Twitch:
https://www.twitch.tv/fallenshadow
ASMR Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/@fallenshadow
VOD Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/@fallenshadowtwitch
Clips Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/@fallenshadowclips
Ribbon Cage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWMyb4vKRU0 [Embed]
You Are My Sunshine (Cover):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX_vx_p_Yfc [Embed]
Twitter:
https://twitter.com/fallenshadow_YT
Alt Twitter:
https://twitter.com/goodgirlshadow
Otis Twitter:
https://twitter.com/managerotis
Shondo Store:
https://shondo.store/
Schedule:
https://x.com/fallenshadow_YT/status/1961931988509561207
Please refresh yourselves on global and board rules before posting, you might be surprised!
Remember to ignore, report and hide shitposters. It's easier than you think!
Previous thread:
>>104235734
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:42:42 AM
No.104272162
>>104271288
Gj, you sharing that resulted in it already being shared to the farm.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:44:41 AM
No.104272214
>>104272342
>>104272167
so, what are they gonna do with it, call her a pedophile again? scary
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:45:13 AM
No.104272226
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:47:43 AM
No.104272280
i won c:
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:49:27 AM
No.104272318
Goodnight shoggas...
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:50:34 AM
No.104272340
>>104272353
>>104272365
HEIL SHITLER
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:50:36 AM
No.104272342
>>104272355
>>104272214
It's just good practice not to give them ammo. FF is giving them enough
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:51:17 AM
No.104272353
>>104272340
SHIGGA HEIL SHITLER
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:51:17 AM
No.104272355
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:51:37 AM
No.104272365
>>104272340
ALL MY SHIGGAS SHAZIS SHIGGA SHEIL SHITLER
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:52:12 AM
No.104272378
>>104272411
>>104272167
he posted it there
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:53:17 AM
No.104272411
>>104272378
actually follows dewds MO to drop that there
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:54:28 AM
No.104272447
>>104272505
>>104272547
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:55:19 AM
No.104272466
>>104272167
it was shared to the farm before he posted it here
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:56:51 AM
No.104272505
>>104272570
>>104272447
Why would one of her oilers do this?
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:59:02 AM
No.104272547
>>104272447
Forest Faggot
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:59:08 AM
No.104272550
>>104272561
>>104272613
Shondo really is the Ye of vtubers
>Unironic schizo dragged down by own hubris
>Incredibly loyal fandom willing to defend any crazy shit she says
>Likes Hitler
>Mom is dead
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 12:59:41 AM
No.104272561
>>104272550
we're gonna run out of "yeah but 2022 shondo" soon
>>104272505
he wouldn't, it's babies first falseflag
there's a reason he's not banned despite the groomerclique shitting
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:00:49 AM
No.104272591
>>104272635
>>104272570
>The retarded shit-stirrer wouldn't stir shit
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:01:31 AM
No.104272613
>>104272550
Subathon 2022 was her Graduation
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:01:34 AM
No.104272616
>>104272570
FF Defense force out in full force.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:02:09 AM
No.104272635
>>104272591
>groomsissy shitting
you lost cuck c:
cry to the mods lmfao
FF was frantically DMing people engaging with the Shondo thread saying it wasn't him.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:03:31 AM
No.104272673
FF is too clouted with the sauce to face real consequences.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:05:15 AM
No.104272727
>>104272855
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:05:36 AM
No.104272737
>>104272820
>>104272649
no proof i guess c:
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:08:19 AM
No.104272820
>>104272839
>>104272737
Posted too hastily you Farmer Faggot cock sucking faggot?
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:09:10 AM
No.104272839
>>104272820
so no proof
also not him cuck c:
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:09:41 AM
No.104272855
Imagine being married with Shondo. You return home after work only to find her drunk, passed out on the sofa wearing only her shirt, nothing underneath, her smooth, hairless pussy fully exposed to you. You get close to wake her up but as soon as she does she beats the living shit out of you in a drunken rage, nearly cracking your ribs. You can hear her cry as you fall to the ground, and you can feel her tears falling on your face as she says "I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN TO" while sitting on you, her still naked pussy rubbing on your clothes. She gives you a kiss hoping you'll forgive her, and you know you will. After all, nothing makes you feel at home like the smell of wine and the taste of an hangover's vomit in your mouth.
All you can do at that point, with all that pain in your body, is simply hugging her with one hand. while the other slides under her shirt just to caress her neck. She has no bra, but that's expected, and you can't help but appreciate her skin under your touch
Sure is singing passionately about wanting to hold and kiss someone this karaoke
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:14:02 AM
No.104272979
>>104271989
Nevermind, all may not be lost...
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:14:04 AM
No.104272980
>>104273226
>>104272936
her hands would break on my bones
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:14:39 AM
No.104273004
>>104273226
>>104272936
unrealistic:
- she wouldn't be able to beat the shit out of me no matter how hard she tries.
- she doesn't get hangovers, or at least not in a way that is noticeable; her regular waking up mood is bad enough.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:14:43 AM
No.104273006
>>104273226
>>104272936
Couldn't get immersed by this when your post implied she could harm me in anyway.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:14:57 AM
No.104273013
>>104273226
>>104272936
>nearly cracking your ribs.
Stopped reading here, certified homosexual fantasy
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:15:31 AM
No.104273034
>>104273076
>>104272972
You people get off to this, don't you?
>>104272936
https://x.com/snowmantheBapy/status/1869792134523695286/photo/1
This could only work on a weak shogga like Bapy. Twig arms that are smaller than hers.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:16:54 AM
No.104273076
>>104273034
Yeah, i'm glorping it. Straight up glorpin my shit rn.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:18:56 AM
No.104273128
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:18:59 AM
No.104273132
>>104273194
>>104273063
fuck is he also anorexic
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:21:22 AM
No.104273194
>>104273221
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:21:50 AM
No.104273208
>>104273253
are you guys enjoying the stream today
ive been loving every minute desu
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:22:15 AM
No.104273221
>>104273194
>footfag
does he know where he is
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:22:24 AM
No.104273226
>>104273250
>>104272980
>>104273004
>>104273006
>>104273013
>>104273063
You've never been in a fistfight with a drunk and it shows
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:23:09 AM
No.104273250
>>104273226
if she hit me i would stone cold stunner her into concrete
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:23:15 AM
No.104273253
>>104273208
I haven't watched fallenshadow in a year
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:24:42 AM
No.104273304
Jason > Michael
STOP TALKING ABOUT FUCKING F13 AND JASON YOU FUCKING RETARDED FAGGOTS
https://imgur.com/a/1pV9qew
Take a look at Shondo's behavior during a watchalong in Alice Sawyer's discord. She would rather spend 8 hours a day ignoring husbands. Left out dozens of messages of her spamming the word sex or need
full 2.2k messages unedited
https://files.catbox.moe/e9p28x.rar
>>104273328
it's really hot though...
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:27:11 AM
No.104273380
>>104273413
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:27:42 AM
No.104273402
>>104273378
>>104273380
I'd fucking murder you
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:28:06 AM
No.104273416
>>104273378
Shut the fuck up Shondo
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:29:53 AM
No.104273463
>>104273373
I fucking hate alice
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:30:10 AM
No.104273470
>>104273413
not sure anyone is scared of the impotent threats from a literal manchild that feels cucked by a movie LMAO
grow up kid
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:30:13 AM
No.104273473
>>104273373
this is unhealthy anon set the screenshots down and enjoy her stream please
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:31:12 AM
No.104273500
I like alice
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:32:54 AM
No.104273536
I quite like Alice
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:32:59 AM
No.104273538
>>104273575
im still thinking about earlier when she said putting things in her tight body
the way she said tight body just reeked of eroticism and pent up hormones
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:33:59 AM
No.104273575
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:34:36 AM
No.104273595
>>104273661
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:34:50 AM
No.104273605
>>104273413
no you wouldnt
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:34:58 AM
No.104273608
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:35:39 AM
No.104273629
>>104272649
it wasnt, this is their MO.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:35:41 AM
No.104273632
Ok bored now turn the stream off.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:35:43 AM
No.104273633
>>104274529
im excited to hear the shit she says this time, is she gonna bring up masturbation again
>>104273595
how about now?
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:37:10 AM
No.104273674
>>104273545
Some shigger with nitro using crimson moon took this screenshot
The mouth tracking on her microphone asset is better than her new model.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:37:16 AM
No.104273678
>>104273661
nothing has been canon since before the big hiatus
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:38:03 AM
No.104273705
bros why is she so cute
>>104273676
it's actually better, you just aren't used to more realistic tracking.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:38:56 AM
No.104273731
>>104273676
lmao fuck you're right
hope she gets the new model looked at the tracking is atrocious
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:39:07 AM
No.104273739
>>104273676
probably because it tracks by sound while the model tracks by the camera and she's bouncing around cause she's white girl drunk.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:39:47 AM
No.104273759
>>104273718
Chin moves too much upward
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:39:58 AM
No.104273767
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:40:34 AM
No.104273790
>>104273718
teeth are together too much
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:40:56 AM
No.104273797
shes singing some bangers today
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:42:42 AM
No.104273852
>>104273883
I was afraid that she'd hate Metal Gear but she seems to have enough whimsy to enjoy the dumb parts unlike Oli.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:42:58 AM
No.104273857
i think seeing her teeth is what makes her look so much more childlike
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:43:55 AM
No.104273883
>>104273852
olivia loved the game she just made metal gear autistics mad
mgs1 almost filtered her though
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:48:47 AM
No.104274024
>>104273328
struck a nerve? :33
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 1:57:29 AM
No.104274267
>>104274380
she's my fute bagel
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:01:05 AM
No.104274380
>>104274267
I'm gonna touch you
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:05:17 AM
No.104274529
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:05:35 AM
No.104274542
>Family is main reason for living
Fuck us I guess.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:06:13 AM
No.104274570
>>104274594
>half my problem is having a male in my life
>I wish I had a secret boyfriend
UH OH
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:06:24 AM
No.104274578
>it's this part of the stream again
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:06:47 AM
No.104274593
>>104274642
I can be her boyfriend, I live relatively close by!
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:06:49 AM
No.104274594
>>104274570
you couldnt even hear that first one correctly you fucking retard
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:07:56 AM
No.104274642
>>104274767
>>104274593
seems like she wants one bad so if you're over 6 feet you're in
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:07:58 AM
No.104274644
>And her entire family
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:08:31 AM
No.104274658
Doing drunk streams after debuting and streams filled with literal who nonwatchers is just about the worst thing she could do in terms of streaming
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:08:42 AM
No.104274666
and there it goes, stream was going so well
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:08:58 AM
No.104274677
>>104274714
>she cries herself to sleep every night due to desire of penis
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:09:24 AM
No.104274694
Drunk people are the worst
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:09:42 AM
No.104274700
>p2w dead silent
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:10:00 AM
No.104274714
>>104274723
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:10:19 AM
No.104274723
>>104274755
>>104274714
she outright rejects her fans
how does having 6 people to support make youre MORE lonely than the average male
please explain im actually confused because i dont have someone i have to caretake
>you're lonely but are you six-people-around-you lonely?
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:11:07 AM
No.104274755
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:11:18 AM
No.104274762
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:11:24 AM
No.104274767
>>104274846
>>104274642
>186cm
Yeah I fit the bill, and I'm also Italian so superior genetics. Plus my ex was just as bad if not worse and she was the one to break with me, not the other way, and it lasted 5 years, so yeah I can do this
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:11:35 AM
No.104274773
>I wish I had no family so I could just get in a relationship, have sex, and stop being depressed
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:11:39 AM
No.104274776
she's just drunk ranting. Worst part of these streams desu.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:11:41 AM
No.104274778
>>104274734
her family dont take her seriously so they just put more pressure on her which she isn't able to take
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:11:47 AM
No.104274788
>>104274741
women do not understand the concept of loneliness
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:12:18 AM
No.104274813
Close the stream retard you're making a scene
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:12:48 AM
No.104274829
why does she always pretend like death only happens in her family? i hate when she gets like this
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:13:05 AM
No.104274839
OH NO OH NO
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:13:13 AM
No.104274846
>>104274975
>>104274767
Why have you not just gone to a meet and greet
LMAOOOO this is your wife
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:13:59 AM
No.104274874
Make sure to add three dots after every message so she knows you're really serious...
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:14:14 AM
No.104274887
>>104274852
yeah and i will marry her irl and save her
wait is that why she killed herself? because of john guy? I thought it was because of all the pain she was in from the abscesses
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:14:33 AM
No.104274896
She's so gross. I hate how she always proves the anti-drinking fags right, lol.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:14:48 AM
No.104274902
>>104274852
She isn't, she just wants to get dicked by some other guy
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:15:37 AM
No.104274927
>>104274893
it was several things piled up; her boyfriend abandoning her while she was in pain was a large factor
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:16:33 AM
No.104274954
>>104274893
he told her to stop taking her meds
also it was john singer and not john guy
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:16:40 AM
No.104274966
>>104274734
>>104274741
you've had a lot of time with her to realize the male sympathies are lip service, never forget she thinks you could just fuck a whore if you really care about virginity
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:16:58 AM
No.104274975
>>104274846
Because I still miss my ex despite it having been 3 years since the break up and while I wouldn't mind having her as a close friend and be her emotional support I don't see myself being in a relationship ever again. I wanted to go to vexpo but ehh, too busy with work and I hate Birmingham
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:17:09 AM
No.104274985
>>104275148
Another ban incoming
she should stop doing drinking streams and save it if she feels like she needs to
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:17:19 AM
No.104274991
>>104275043
Nice to hear that her fans don't make her life any better at all
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:17:24 AM
No.104274997
Women really are eternally mentally 14 years old
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:17:55 AM
No.104275021
>I won't be here anymore in 10 years
I don't like when she talks like this
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:18:19 AM
No.104275043
>>104275078
>>104274991
you're here and you haven't noticed how much her manchild fans have strained her for years
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:18:22 AM
No.104275048
>Something real
Marriage confirmed fake
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:18:31 AM
No.104275054
>>104275255
she has so many people that would do literally anything for her? people that support her even if she doesn't stream for months. she could unironically just pick someone and schizo out on him
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:19:00 AM
No.104275078
>>104275183
>>104275043
without her manchild fans she would be rotting away doing nothing
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:19:16 AM
No.104275092
>I think I'm a cheerleader
She says while spending yet another stream trauma dumping. LMAO
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:19:33 AM
No.104275101
>martyr myself
UH
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:19:33 AM
No.104275102
trainwrecks are always so entertaining www
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:20:30 AM
No.104275139
>>104275175
My heart breaks for her, i wish i could help somehow, being intrusted into a párent position because of her own mother fuckups is literrally a situation that she wont be free for many many years
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:20:38 AM
No.104275146
She continues for us yet she'll gladly ignore us
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:20:42 AM
No.104275148
>>104274985
Even if she does it will only be like 24 hours tops because she's already in contact with Twitch staff.
Did anyone else get a seriously bad feeling from what she just said about there being "Only one way I can find peace and I look forward to it"
>>104275139
They chose this though. They fought to keep the kids in the house even though they clearly don't have the capacity to take care of them.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:21:34 AM
No.104275183
>>104275226
>>104275078
well by the sound of it she considers you guys keeping her alive to be a burden
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:21:38 AM
No.104275186
im extremely scared for her i know shes just having a moment but she sounds dead set on being dead or gone and every time she eludes to that concept the time frame gets shorter
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:22:25 AM
No.104275216
>>104275158
She's just like her old oshi, both suicidebaiting every chance they get
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:22:35 AM
No.104275226
>>104275351
>>104275183
even if every shondophrenic was fleece mixed with tubby and every other schizo they still wouldn't be as much of a strain on her than her own family and own brain
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:22:36 AM
No.104275227
>>104275175
they can't just abandon them.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:22:38 AM
No.104275229
>schizo bipolar wife saying schizo bipolar things
I think we did this to ourselves
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:22:59 AM
No.104275245
>>104275158
This is par for the course
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:23:13 AM
No.104275255
>>104275054
That's the whole point, those people don't make good husbands, heck they don't even make good people.
>>104275175
Yeah, let's just destroy the whole family rather than trying to save what little's left
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:23:20 AM
No.104275260
>>104275175
Theres only really one child in the house and that child didn't want to go anywhere else.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:23:25 AM
No.104275267
>>104275298
>>104275158
i mean it's obvious she's not going to last long. no IRL connections other than her family, mass in her chest she's ignoring, so many things. it's better if we don't think about that
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:23:39 AM
No.104275275
>>104275356
>>104275175
I mean, isnt that what you do for family? family together and all
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:24:03 AM
No.104275291
ok Shondo, you have a great cheerleader potential but it's wasted if you don't cheer up yourself first
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:24:18 AM
No.104275298
>>104275267
she already went to the doctor about that
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:24:55 AM
No.104275325
>>104275342
To any newfriends, this is typically how it goes when she drinks on stream. It lowers her inhibitions and she goes from very giggly and cheery to depressed and gloomy. She'll be fine once she sobers up.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:25:26 AM
No.104275342
>>104275428
>>104275325
>She will pretend to be happy when she sobers up
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:25:29 AM
No.104275343
imagine fucking her tight shunny while shes having a doomer episode
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:25:38 AM
No.104275351
>>104275427
>>104275226
everyone has crazy family and the most hurt has already happened until forest elder dies, most other people don't have kiwifags and "fans" scrutinizing their every move and threatening their personal safety
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:25:45 AM
No.104275356
>>104275474
>>104275275
That obviously depends? Would you expect a quadraplegic with brain damage to take care of a family? I really feel like /shon/ keeps forgetting that she's so mentally ill she's almost non-functioning while having a body that barely works because of her anorexia. Does it fucking sound like it's working out?
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:26:22 AM
No.104275376
i hope you shoggas do realize she's talking to herself and not for you
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:27:14 AM
No.104275407
>>104275462
Always depressing when you realize nobody actually wants to be part of this
>>104275351
her family are having daily meltdowns, abuse her financially and physically and don't take anything she says seriously while constantly putting more burdens on her physically and mentally
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:27:54 AM
No.104275428
>>104275342
She has to pretend, her brain won't allow her to be happy.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:27:57 AM
No.104275431
Man, I feel what she's saying on a deep level, having to go on due to one's own expectations on what is right to do to keep things going
I'm stuck in the same trap myself, and even being aware of it, it's almost impossible to run from it
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:28:58 AM
No.104275462
>>104275407
I would fix her, unironically.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:29:09 AM
No.104275469
>>104275427
Hey, that's just normal every day family life according to /shon/! There are other adults in the house, but it has to all be on Shondo because /shon/ said any other solution is inhumane!
>>104275356
Like she said, she cant leave her grandmother (who is old and wont be around anymore maybe in the next 10 or 15 years) to take care of all her siblings alone, this is the burden of responsibility.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:29:28 AM
No.104275477
>>104275599
>>104275427
is nobody else allowed to grieve
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:29:44 AM
No.104275490
>>104275567
>>104275427
What's wrong with the kids' dads that they need their schizophrenic self-employed older sister to care for them instead
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:30:38 AM
No.104275529
>>104275654
>>104275474
She doesn't have to do that. The siblings have father and FT should be expected to step up instead of having his non-functioning sister take care of him. Who fucking buck-broke you people?
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:30:41 AM
No.104275534
>saddest girl alive
>[support] for no reason
lol
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:31:07 AM
No.104275548
>>104275654
>>104275474
her grandma isn't that old, both her and her daughter had children very young.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:31:36 AM
No.104275567
>>104275490
they are trailer trash tier retarded faggot niggers
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:31:51 AM
No.104275577
>virgin stuff again
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:32:05 AM
No.104275587
so true sister you should fix that virginity thing
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:32:10 AM
No.104275592
She wants to be fucked so badly lmao
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:32:11 AM
No.104275593
Yeah she's actually getting into depresso mode, her feelings are catching up with her thoughts
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:32:14 AM
No.104275596
>>104275628
>I'm too cute for being virgin
UHM BROS? WHAT DID SHE MEAN?
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:32:19 AM
No.104275599
>>104275477
all of that has been happening for years
It's cruel and mean for her to say a man in her life would fix her, knowing full well 90% of viewers watching would die to have that chance but will never be given it
its like knowingly dangling the bait just for the kicks
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:32:49 AM
No.104275616
I will fix her with my penis
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:33:14 AM
No.104275628
>>104275596
D showing why he's King of the G unit
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:33:14 AM
No.104275629
>>104275606
This is why the incel movement became a thing in the first place. Women are insane.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:33:21 AM
No.104275634
>>104275606
i will be given that chance and i will blow it and make her worse xdd
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:33:38 AM
No.104275652
the writing is on the wall
don't act surprised when it happens
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:33:42 AM
No.104275654
>>104275723
>>104275548
Oh i didnt know that, my bad
>>104275529
I'm just looking at it from her perspective, if i could give her a life that she deserves i would take her away but i don't think SHE would feel good running away from all of it basically (in her mind) letting her family fend for themselves
>>104275606
the sad truth is that none of the men who watch her could fix her.
It's kinda like how Shadowmama just kept attracting pieces of shit. Shondo only attracts other schizos with their own problems.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:34:05 AM
No.104275669
Quick, ask how many visits it was this time
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:34:35 AM
No.104275683
>>104275693
mmmmhmm she wants some DICK
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:34:55 AM
No.104275693
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:35:38 AM
No.104275720
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:35:43 AM
No.104275723
>>104275820
>>104275654
The only family members she should feel bad about are FE and Baby Bunny. The others are either evil or old enough to take care of themselves
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:35:51 AM
No.104275729
I gebuinely believe that * believes she is a virgin because what happened didn't count because women logic.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:35:53 AM
No.104275732
>>104275666
truth or not, it just seems very distant for her to talk about getting a man infront of her fanbase who yearn for her everyday
also you underestimate my tenacity, ill fix her or die trying
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:35:57 AM
No.104275736
>>104275777
>she's hallucinating
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:36:05 AM
No.104275742
>>104275666
Nah, I could, but only because I'm not like the other viewers and I'm not into her for the parasocial relationship thing
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:36:40 AM
No.104275757
>>104275703
me and shondo
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:37:11 AM
No.104275777
>>104275736
The meds are wearing off because she's been drinking. It's why you don't drink on antipsychotics but she does it anyways.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:37:17 AM
No.104275781
>>104275666
>Shondo only attracts other schizos with their own problems.
yeah, me. and i will fix her
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:37:18 AM
No.104275782
>>104275745
this is what they all think
>>104275745
>wall of buzz lightyears.gif
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:38:14 AM
No.104275820
>>104275876
>>104275723
Its clear that she feels bad about leaving all of them, if she didnt she would already have gone, unironically theres a few 10/10 gigachads in the community that she can pick from (if she even considers dating a fan ofc)
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:38:30 AM
No.104275829
TELL ME WHY I HAVE TO BE A POWERSLAVE
I DONT WANT TO DIE IM A GOD
WHY CANT I LIVE OOOOONNNN
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:39:28 AM
No.104275856
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:39:30 AM
No.104275858
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:39:55 AM
No.104275876
>>104275922
>>104275820
I know she feels obligated to take care of them but FT and BC will both leave her within a couple of years, leaving her with the shitter critter and BB to raise with FE.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:40:03 AM
No.104275880
well its not like marley or the time she was off her meds and missed gramps, I'm not concerned she's gonna log off and go do it but its grim
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:40:11 AM
No.104275884
>>104275840
ruined/ending
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:40:28 AM
No.104275895
>>104275840
colossally dogshit due to the ending
2/10
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:40:29 AM
No.104275897
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:40:53 AM
No.104275920
>>104275840
get a therapist and stop trauma-dumping on chat/10
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:40:55 AM
No.104275922
>>104275958
Let's be real, sex with her would be incredible, she'd be down for anything and everything. Since she's a history of eating disorders, you can bet her gag reflex is completely gone, so she'd able to deepthroat with no issues. She'd never say no to anything, bdsm? Anal? Rape play? Fucking her while she sleeps? Throatpie? There's no way she'd refuse anything, and being severely underweight means no period which means unprotected sex without any worries
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:41:27 AM
No.104275944
>>104275840
stupid retard needs to stop drinking/10
otherwise 10/10 actually a good stream
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:41:57 AM
No.104275958
>>104275922
One has a job and GF and the other will probably go to Uni
>>104275937
she's touch averse and is a germophobe
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:42:24 AM
No.104275971
someone should map the shoncycle. drinking stream has to be at some point before the real life obligation that requires she takes a month off
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:42:59 AM
No.104275994
>>104276031
>>104275840
I liked it alot, please christian bros pray for her tonight
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:43:06 AM
No.104275999
>>104276527
>>104275963
That's what she wants you to believe, you just hear her real thoughts
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:43:30 AM
No.104276012
>>104276058
>>104275937
she would be the classic menhera girl with amazing pussy relationship but of course if that goes too long you either die horribly or lose your soul
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:43:33 AM
No.104276013
im willing to take one for the team and marry her irl and take care of her forever
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:44:04 AM
No.104276031
>>104275994
she wanted you to pray TO her anon
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:44:11 AM
No.104276036
>>104275963
thats what makes it hot
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:44:48 AM
No.104276058
>>104276012
>if that goes too long you either die horribly or lose your soul
Latter already happened, I'm down for the former
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:45:23 AM
No.104276081
>>104276440
>>104275963
yeah i too dislike germans :^)
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:45:58 AM
No.104276098
thread reading shondo i will always be ready to go on a date with you and sit there awkwardly mumbling but at least i will pay the whole bill myself
>S raging at randoms because he doesn't want the streamer to find a bf and be happy
lmao the g roomer anti classic
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:46:11 AM
No.104276106
Shondo will not last to next Vexpo
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:46:17 AM
No.104276109
>>104275840
8/10 was a fun karaoke stream for a bit. I don't like when she gets really depressed at the end of these streams though. Makes me sad and wish I could help her. 10/10 wife like usual. Hope she gets something yummy to eat.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:47:13 AM
No.104276136
>>104276099
ultimately she doesn't do GFE anymore and "husbands" are the worst and most entitled viewers, she should just do what makes herself happy and she won't even really suffer financially from it
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:47:58 AM
No.104276167
>>104276099
When will he turn this energy towards Forest_Fires who is a proven anti
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:48:16 AM
No.104276179
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:48:31 AM
No.104276190
>>104276143
>she should just do what makes herself happy
>and she won't even really suffer financially from it
hard to make money if you're living in the void
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:48:52 AM
No.104276200
>>104276259
>>104276143
At this point it's either FT hooks her up with a nice guy or she dies, anyone not supporting the former is an anti, plain and simple
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:49:01 AM
No.104276206
>>104276143
Sadly Shondo is not that funny or cute nor can she do back flips, so She has to pander as a wife giving cookies to randoms.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:49:02 AM
No.104276208
She does such a good job at making me care about her. I want to save this schizo mess so badly.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:49:26 AM
No.104276227
>>104276143
>ultimately she doesn't do GFE anymore
watch streams also i will save her
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:50:32 AM
No.104276259
>>104276200
She should just hook up with me. I already scouted the property we can move into and I am prepared to build an extension for FE.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:51:09 AM
No.104276281
thread reading shondo marry me irl
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:51:10 AM
No.104276282
>>104276310
This was a perfect stream to make people accept the big dick Chad bf plapping the shunt twice daily when the new lore drops
Jason 13th
9/7/2025, 2:51:30 AM
No.104276295
I will make her happy by killing her in quite a gruesome way
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:51:50 AM
No.104276310
>>104276282
>big dick Chad bf
Me
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:52:23 AM
No.104276333
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:52:27 AM
No.104276335
>>104276483
>iyh
did she just misspell ily
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:52:36 AM
No.104276344
grrr these TOURIST fucks believe her drunken words and give reasonable advice for anyone not in a blood pact with other online virgin losers to be miserable forever and die at 30
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:53:18 AM
No.104276365
>>104276451
>>104276099
wonder if she would become a trad wife if she ended up with a british chud?
It baffles me how some of you are absolute man children that cry about not getting cookies and her fangirling about Jason for example, what makes you think she would pick you instead of a 6'0 confident british gentlemen that has a nice job, a house of his own and a car?
Jason 13th
9/7/2025, 2:54:23 AM
No.104276397
>>104276477
>>104276373
I got cookies
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:54:42 AM
No.104276408
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:54:58 AM
No.104276419
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:55:31 AM
No.104276440
>>104276765
>>104276081
I found the pole
UH OH MANLET MELTY. WEE WOO WEE WOO
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:55:46 AM
No.104276451
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:56:29 AM
No.104276477
>>104276397
Based Jason Voorhees
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:56:30 AM
No.104276478
>>104276445
do NOT try to solve the problem she is supposed to be miserable with us forever cause she PROMISED she NEEDS me
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:56:45 AM
No.104276483
>>104276335
No she correctly spelled "I yearn, Hitler"
Jason 13th
9/7/2025, 2:56:47 AM
No.104276487
>>104276445
I will take care of shondo he should calm down
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:57:06 AM
No.104276498
>>104276445
grrr stop talking to my wife
The funny part is that she projects her own seethe at virginity onto her viewers and assumes that all they want is sex whereas most of her cucks probably would happily become her emotional tampon even if they only got a pity handjob once a year from her while drunk.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:57:55 AM
No.104276515
>>104276557
>movie
OH NO
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:58:07 AM
No.104276520
>after party
uh oh
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:58:24 AM
No.104276527
>>104275999
>>104275963
many people to say that are in really repressing their feelings and necessities, for fear usually to them or to be weak, I know that from first hand, also lack of human touch can make you retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYzXvt15sLI
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:58:31 AM
No.104276532
its patently kinda silly hearing "I don't want to be a wizard" from a woman I'm sorry for giggling a bit shondo
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:58:33 AM
No.104276533
>bloody valentine 2.0
im out
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:58:36 AM
No.104276536
>>104276591
>>104276445
When will he comment on the FF drama
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:59:14 AM
No.104276557
>>104276596
>>104276515
This is one instance where the Meet and Greeters are losing.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:59:16 AM
No.104276558
>>104276502
No I think she was correct about that, men hate being used as an emotional tampon with nothing in return. That mindbreaks the simp.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:59:39 AM
No.104276572
>>104275840
8/10
not gonna count the depression bit cus that's just par for the course for drinking streams
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:00:13 AM
No.104276591
>>104276536
He won't because they're groomers in arms.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:00:23 AM
No.104276596
>>104276557
No, they win because they won't have to listen to Shondo continue her depressive rant
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:00:26 AM
No.104276599
i will hug her to sleep
>>104276502
you know I thought her "have pride about being a virgin it's easy getting laid if you wanted to! just fuck a whore!" bit was stupid and patronizing but I guess she was just coping that virginity is a matter of pride
I still think she'll never understand what makes men insecure about being virgins but at least I know part of that stupidity was her coping
>>104276601
its a common woman opinion i think saruei said the same thing
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:02:13 AM
No.104276658
>>104276143
i would be ok with her dropping wife status officially, but then favoritism would lose every restriction
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:02:20 AM
No.104276662
>>104276636
I mean it really is super rare, but that sort of loser naturally congregates in GFE VTuber streams
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:02:30 AM
No.104276670
>>104276601 (me)
to that end I think her insecurities are very high schooler coded, which is fair she's still mentally there but I hope she grows up, it's not a big deal, the real "adult" things that she needs to catch up on are basically everything else
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:03:35 AM
No.104276705
Betting a buck fiddy that the movie is going to get paused midway through for another rambling
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:03:44 AM
No.104276713
>>104276818
It would be funny as fuck if she got a bf and he became the top mod on her stream after everything
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:04:58 AM
No.104276765
>>104276440
german humor is not a laughing matter
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:05:47 AM
No.104276786
>S got shown on the farms
UH OH FF turned on S?
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:06:29 AM
No.104276818
>>104276839
>>104276713
Genuinely wondering what the shroomers would do, stick around and hope for another chance when they break up?
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:07:02 AM
No.104276830
>>104276893
Staying virgin for wife comes with the dread of being a shitty love maker due to the lack of experience in sex, would an inexperienced woman like her even be able to tell if her partner is a virgin or not?
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:07:14 AM
No.104276839
>>104276818
Probably, that's the beta orbiter MO
Do you think I'm still in time to get a flight from the Scottish hell hole I live in and go to vexpo?
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:08:36 AM
No.104276893
>>104277025
>>104276830
She would realize when she doesn't cum
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:09:46 AM
No.104276935
>>104276879
Couple years too late
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:10:07 AM
No.104276955
>>104276879
>there's no direct flight from inverness to birmingham
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS PLACE
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:11:11 AM
No.104277001
>>104277130
>>104276636
I don't know how you explain it, I would say that it's more about the conquest but that sounds too rapey. I think it should be obvious that it's more shameful to have only lost your virginity to having paid for it, but women are dumb about these things.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:11:52 AM
No.104277025
>>104277111
>>104276893
Wich would be worse, to be caught lying about something so important to her or the chance that she might have caught the ick from your love making skills and may dump you in the future
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:14:38 AM
No.104277111
>>104277379
>>104277025
Since you shouldn't be lying your way into her pants you should just make it clear and she probably won't see you as a whore if it's just with past gfs anyway
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:15:00 AM
No.104277130
>>104277190
>>104277001
Tbh losing your virginity to a whore is bad but builts confidence and makes the fear of women vanish, i mean if you are a certain age its the only thing that seems to help
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:16:48 AM
No.104277190
>>104277130
I don't see what would be cause for confidence in that case, maybe it could solve a fear of intimacy but my confidence has little to do with fear of sexual performance that a whore would just lie to me about anyway
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:18:02 AM
No.104277232
>>104276445
>read the room
>proceeds to be a sperg
for his sake I hope he's still in his early twenties because otherwise he'll never grow up
Jason 13th
9/7/2025, 3:21:01 AM
No.104277327
Saving shondo by astral projecting my seed into the left sheye
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:22:15 AM
No.104277379
>>104277111
True in the end this is a matter of trust, i was overthinking this and getting worried about nothing, i still think Shondo would be bummed out that she isnt our first but would appreciate our sincerity, thank you anon for the help
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:22:25 AM
No.104277383
>>104277501
>>104276879
Wouldn't driving be faster?
I forgot how cucked discussion was
the discord is more lobotomized than I remembered
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:24:31 AM
No.104277461
>>104277681
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:24:50 AM
No.104277480
is that a SEX JOKE guards seize him
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:25:31 AM
No.104277496
>>104277681
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:25:42 AM
No.104277501
>>104277383
Nope, still faster to fly, even if I'm going to Amsterdam and then back, 6-7 hours vs 8+ depending on the traffic
Hell probably even cheaper
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:26:12 AM
No.104277523
>>104277495
What was the joke?
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:26:32 AM
No.104277534
>>104277681
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:27:36 AM
No.104277576
>>104277750
>>104277495
Oh no the girl who just went on a long rant about how she has an 8 inch itch would hate that ;(
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:30:22 AM
No.104277681
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:32:13 AM
No.104277750
>>104277576
they haven't updated their firmware yet
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:34:31 AM
No.104277830
>>104277889
WHAT WAS THE FUCKING JOKE
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:34:41 AM
No.104277847
Will there be more of the first Shumos? she received a box of them apparently, if yes how many?
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:35:17 AM
No.104277869
>>104277898
Shondo will only find happiness after she finds a ha penis (ha means 8 in moonrunes)
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:35:53 AM
No.104277889
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:36:05 AM
No.104277898
>>104277989
>>104277869
八 what though?
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:38:25 AM
No.104277989
>>104277898
erotic cheeks..
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:38:26 AM
No.104277992
inis movie
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:42:31 AM
No.104278176
I'm jacking off
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:43:43 AM
No.104278236
im jacking on
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:44:06 AM
No.104278250
im jacking up
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:45:05 AM
No.104278314
i jacked off after the stream
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:45:10 AM
No.104278320
I'm jacking down
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:47:18 AM
No.104278409
im jack and im masturbating
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:48:12 AM
No.104278448
>>104278659
Almost posted in the honest opinions thread...
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:50:18 AM
No.104278538
Hi, I'm Brenda Song and you're watching Disney Channel
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:53:02 AM
No.104278659
>>104278816
>>104278448
It's my honest opinion that Shondo is both cute and funny
>>104278659
Don't you dare make a cute and funny joke.
Discussions are so fucking cucked lmao.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 4:00:33 AM
No.104278967
>>104278816
>blue archive pfp
Hypocrite lol
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 4:02:58 AM
No.104279045
>>104278816
cunnychuds your days are numbered....
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 4:12:55 AM
No.104279482
>>104278816
We love hags in this thread
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 4:20:40 AM
No.104279742
>>104279798
It's quiet.
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Too quiet.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 4:22:20 AM
No.104279798
>>104280414
>>104279742
we're watching this weird ass german movie about two twinks and a cuck dad who does nothing to stop them from terrorizing his family.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 4:41:19 AM
No.104280414
>>104280443
>>104279798
Yeah, but not even one post ITT?
Feels desolate.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 4:42:17 AM
No.104280443
>>104280532
>>104280414
FF is busy lil gup
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 4:44:49 AM
No.104280532
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 4:46:19 AM
No.104280590
>>104280880
all she knows is laughing at mens pain...
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 4:55:07 AM
No.104280880
>>104281077
>>104280590
She really hates beta males like this dude. Guy did nothing and watched his son get shot and wife nearly get raped because his leg hort. Like come on man, at least try to do something.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 4:59:00 AM
No.104281002
least favorite watchalong by far and it's not because of the movie. (rape was not mentioned or hinted at once btw)
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 5:00:50 AM
No.104281061
>>104281116
holy fuck are watchalongs usually this autistic?
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 5:01:14 AM
No.104281077
>>104281172
>>104280880
a femur fracture is pretty serious man, though quite possibly more so because of complications
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 5:02:14 AM
No.104281116
>>104281061
if you mean does she always ridicule the movie and offer dumb metacommentary because she has zoomer attention span, yes
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 5:04:05 AM
No.104281172
>>104281077
What about the implications?
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 5:04:23 AM
No.104281181
>>104281571
It's funny to me that Shondo is european but absolutely can't stand european films. She's the most americanpilled brit i've seen.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 5:06:26 AM
No.104281249
Movie is pretty bad though to be fair. It's only a groundbreaking movie if you have 50 iq and are incapable of defending your own actions
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 5:16:29 AM
No.104281571
>>104281181
German movies are absolutely awful though
This movie is a subversion to the slasher film genre. That's why Shondo fucking hates it. She just wanted Jason to pop up and fucking kill the twinks immediately.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 5:26:30 AM
No.104281851
>>104281815
its not a good subversion
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 5:27:30 AM
No.104281877
The movie was not terrible kinda enjoyed it
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 5:28:53 AM
No.104281907
>>104281815
To be fair, that would've been a better ending. cheating death only to end up dying anyways.