Thread 104300729

Nijisanji EN YouTube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@nijisanji_en/channels
https://www.youtube.com/@petragurin/channels

Twitter:
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World
https://twitter.com/i/lists/1415262975435231235

LazuLight:
https://twitter.com/EliraPendora
https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu

OBSYDIA:
https://twitter.com/Petra_Gurin

Ethyria:
https://twitter.com/MillieParfait
https://twitter.com/EnnaAlouette

Luxiem:
https://twitter.com/Luca_Kaneshiro
https://twitter.com/Shu_Yamino
https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma

Noctyx:
https://twitter.com/Sonny_Brisko
https://twitter.com/Uki_Violeta
https://twitter.com/Alban_Knox

ILUNA:
https://twitter.com/MariaMari0nette
https://twitter.com/AiaAmare
https://twitter.com/ScarleYonaguni
https://twitter.com/RenZott0

XSOLEIL:
https://twitter.com/D_Dropscythe
https://twitter.com/MelocoKyoran
https://twitter.com/Ver_Vermillion

Krisis:
https://twitter.com/VezaliusBandage
https://twitter.com/Tyrant_Vanta
https://twitter.com/YuQWilson

TTT:
https://twitter.com/ClaudeClawmark

Denauth:
https://twitter.com/RyomaBarrenwort
https://twitter.com/KlaraCharmwood

BY THE BEAT:
https://twitter.com/Seible_2434
https://twitter.com/KaelixDebonair
https://twitter.com/Freo_2434
https://twitter.com/ZealGinjoka

Teamup schedule for Nijisanji EN:
https://teamup.com/kstk7egnopr3xiqj4h

To watch streams at the same time:
https://niji-mado.web.app/home

Graduated Livers and Miscellaneous:
https://rentry.org/7k4s6man

Reminder to ignore bait, shitposting, samefags, discordfags, numberfags, tribalfags, and falseflaggers.

Previous thread: >>104289288

>>104300550
>>104300582
same
>>104300637
i'm trying man

Ike is the kind of menhera who is fucked for life because it makes him spiral when other people don't hate him as much as he hates himself

BBW sex

>>104300786
I will gently and lovingly hate him if it makes him happy

@robo fuckers
https://x.com/spripen/status/1959395846543523865

Contemplating first time mpreg ike and hex with morning sickness awkwardly trying to vomit into the same sink at the same time, while mpreg alban watches from the side. He also has morning sickness but he’s used to it after pumping out dozens of litters, but watching the other two puke is stating to make him feel a little bit burp-y

My heart goes out to the quills

>>104300829
i love beast wars

>Sonny Peak with 10Jin
They said it couldn't be done!!
https://youtu.be/-azjB3lsUTU

who the fuck vomits into a sink instead of the toilet

>>104300917
Different branch.
Lets celebrate if we see collabs with former EN's.

>>104300919
sonny.....

Dragoons got shit taste in music

https://x.com/yuika_siina/status/1964628734427947413
She quit.....very sad

>>104301016
Heh

>>104300987
my ancestors were cooler than yours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6loWrABr8gA

>>104300917
why is he an ikeman

ike
https://x.com/OlgaOkami/status/1962694475861385567

>>104300887
can i eat it? i wanna be fat

>>104300829
what the fuck I thought i was the only one

>>104301097
I thought all of you had EDs

>>104301097
order a pizza now bbygirl

>>104301054
Scandalous!

https://x.com/albanesque/status/1964688297239949581
First time this reminds me of is that cursed family tree from the Overflow universe.

Freo's 2nd outfit leak

>>104300987
Not a dragon, just one of fatass' weirder schizo personae. It's always this kind of slop or the Dragonball soundtracks for some reason.

>>104300887
Unless you are Ike I can't care

>>104301200
>Mpreg family tree
Image filtered, twitter person blocked.

ill always love my big sisters

i wonder what kinds of things sonny would want to do with/to his little sister? i need to start fantasizing about new things aside from sitting in his lap and grinding on his crotch and sucking him from beneath his desk

>>104301274
Why does he LARP as a viking when his obsession with DBZ obviously outs him as Latinx?

>>104301359
He was exposed as a flip on the other site.

Assuming 10jin has some runoff audience from the bird, how will this collab turn out?

>>104301394
sonny gets terminated

I’m disappointed in Sonny

>>104301293
Hello my quilldren. It is me Ike. I will visit you in your dreams tonight

I was going to maybe do something today but now i'm just sad about ike

>>104301430
Termination was out the question the moment his internet history was ignored

>>104301394
He won't have any noteworthy run off audience from her. Think of all the collabs they had while in Nijisanji and how little it did for ID numbers. The kind of people that watch her don't mind her interacting with guys but they aren't actually going to go watch them on their own.

how funny was the lingulini collab, i'm preparing to catch up on the vod tonight

>>104301631
hilarious

>>104301715
can't wait, i even have snacks prepared

Feeling sad again because of no Kotoka and no Kotoka cooking 3D

First-time mpreg Ike and Hex both needing to pee very badly because of their wombs weighing heavily on their bladders, both awkwardly standing in front of the bathroom going oh no you go first, no you, both thinking if this goes on for much longer they’re going to wet their pants and at the very least of the other guy is in the bathroom he won’t see me piss myself, meanwhile Alban has long since mastered the art of discreetly peeing into the gamer bottle

itai

>>104301805
fucking god damnit.....

>>104301780
it sucks knowing there's a high chance that there was a high chance she broke the news to xsoleil right when they were gonna start recording their 3Ds...

>>104301839
aitai

>>104300729 (OP)
Sometimes I forget the girls even exist in this branch.

>>104301631
very LOUD. you get vox and a faux italo-american out-brainrotting each other in stereo, and the latter has a shit mic

>>104301889
baby boi aaaaa.....

>>104301780
who?

>>104300917
Slowly, but surely.

Absolutely grim

>>104301934
that sounds amazing

sonny oniichan
i love sf6 streams because he's very oniichan in them

>>104301016
I can't believe that she was Japan's Prime Minister

maybe im baka but i finally realized who 10jin is. his model kinda has solo leveling/manhwa slop vibes...

>>104301780
>>104301805
this place really is like a graveyard

i really want sonny to groom me and invite me to his home

>>104301394
I think you're overreacting a bit
From what I've seen, fagoons don't care anymore and haven't for a good while now
It's Holofags and Phasecucks who are usually the one stirring shit and anti-ing
And they don't care for malechuubas
It'll be fine

nice 3D pose for the thumbnail

>>104301780
I miss kotokoto

>>104301780
I'm so depressed that she didn't hold off until after she got 3D. We'll never see her gyaru boobs in 3D...

>>104302088
the corpo to indie model downgrades are real.

>>104302094
ike's graduation hit the nijien scene like crack hit the black community and hrt hit gamers

>>104302236
just makes me realize most of my favs have shit taste when it comes to fashion and design..

>>104302242
this but ike
both of them

>>104302179
True, if it was like one of the girls, then that would make HoloPhase-cucks seethe. But is 10jin (a male), so they won't bother.

>>104302179
hakka also collabed with ike after collabing with doki and that was never a problem
as long as it's a dude it's probably fine

>>104301394
Dudes NUMBERS are well blow what we had as Bon, he has no overlap with the dookster.

>>104302242
Ike watches a gamer who trooned out
I miss Ike

>>104302496
Considering he was an ID... oof

>>104302573
Most people didn't follow them to their new identities.
Seeing the state of former ID, I can't comprehend why they graduated in the first place, even Nagisa is still around and she hasn't streamed in ages.

>>104302573
He didn't even do a graduation stream when he left, and it should say as much that he barely streamed in his final months in niji.

im so happy for sonny

>>104302788
thanks man

Loving sex with gym bunny Maria

Can't wait to see retards spamming, begging for a collab with other ex-niji, causing drama on X, and bam, the door closes again. Especially those girls begging for that dude from vpoacho

>>104302788
i wonder who invited who, or if they just decided on it at the same time together. sonny wasn't even following him until now so i thought maybe they drifted apart but maybe they were just locking in in preparation for this. i wish fans could have that level of awareness and consideration

>>104302648
Because he sided with Selen, and said so when he was streaming on his alt even when he was still on niji, I don't know why you retards are even happy with this collab.

>>104302496
>He is good friends with Dokibird, to the point where he's jokingly called "Doki's Indonesian brother".[2]

>>104302883
who fucking cares man

Ain't watch this shit, ain't support it too

>>104302882
>>104302883
and when was the last time he interacted with her?

>>104302911
why do you type like a black person

>>104302930
BLACK COMMUNITY

>>104302928
like few days ago they had a collab retard

>>104302911
can you be more specific, or

>>104302928
Literally 2 days ago.

>>104302928
Literally yesterday. They've been playing GoW together on stream

>>104302883
And yet they still don't watch him.

>>104303010
Nobody should be forced to watch another vtuber just because they're "friends"

VexPo Niji meet-up

>t-they haven't collabed for years!
>h-he is a male!
>t-they don't watch him!
the cope is strong with this one

>>104303114
what is even your angle with this post

>>104303094
Yufeesh thriving

>>104303094
Don't whitewash vanta

>>104303094
whoa freo

>>104303161
This comment with that black petra there makes me giggle.

all ex nijisanji members need a penis for a safe collab, yeah mine

>>104303094
That Freo is hot. The Ver is cute too

>>104303094
PETRA NIGGIN

>>104303094
these are all british niji fans...

>>104303094
Is this representative of the average British weebs?

>>104303094
>black cosplaying petra
>blacks are invading japan also

>>104303134
i cant really discern it either, the whole discussion was about if 10jin collabing with sonny would cause issues because his fanbase might be made up of doki fans with a hateboner for anything Niji related due to him collabing with her, which is a dumb thing to worry about to concernfag about to begin with that gets even dumber when considering collabing with EN girls had next to no impact on ID boys numbers

>>104303094
Black pentomos are as rare as their oshi on her channel

>>104303094
No British kindred…

Alban but tall
Wilson but more masculine
Zali but normal
Doppio but depressed
Luca but normal IQ

>you whip out your dick
how does your oshi react?

>>104303332
>erm...

>>104303094
YUQTIE LOOKS LIKE THAT HUFFHUFF SEXXXXXXXXX SEXXXXXXXXXX

>>104303134
I just find it funny how you call everything that interacted with selen is le evil, but when one of them is finally going to collab with sonny he's good all of a sudden

>>104303355
Which one are you talking about there are three of them

>>104303354
haven't femanons ever wanted a dick?

>>104303383
it's fine when sonny does it

>>104303396
the one thats obviously yuqtie herself, are you dumb

Melon bro celebrating Ryojisan's birthday

>>104303094
Kind of glad I never bother going to these things. I would feel so out of place and anxious surrounded by females.

Let's circle back on α Alban and ω Hex and ω Vanta, both in heat but they are out of suppressants

>>104303414
recently aia's been going on about how ball waxers manhandle the cockles of their victims like a high speed ufo catcher and wondering what that'd be like

>>104303270
>>104303288
Not all are Brits. Some came from France. One or two from Japan but living here for work visa.
>>104303316
Sadly not.
>>104303465
About six guys in total this weekend who liked Niji

Here is all our merch together! The standees got won via mystery bids. Mel's standee went to a fan who left early

>>104303455
Oh so the ugliest one

>>104303383
i don't think anyone is doing that though. if anything i see more people criticizing sonny for this (which i find dumb but they might be shitposters)

Maybe the management didn't know his PL, can't remember all the details shit if the vtuber themselves are too small. It would be hilarious if they got a DM about it and it got blocked immediately.

>>104303556
wouldn't be surprised if you are replying to the poster who seemed to be samefagging trying to bait people to shit on sonny and briskadets after it was initially posted but got no response

>>104303546
oh you're mistaken with the /trash/fag there

sex

>>104303522
I see u-san.........

>>104303632
he wouldn't risk something like that and would be transparent with them

Why don't one of the AInons gen something with cuntboys

>>104303632
i dont think bobon played dota and especially phantom lancer

>>104302533
>Ike watches a gamer who trooned out
who....

>>104303632
it would be funny if twitter kadets can't shut up about it and then management noticed it and cancelled the collab

If you want any other pics, say so. Did some pics per-gen too

>>104303469
who the fuck said alban was alpha

Damn Enna really addressed the elephant in the room.
Good for her. I can only imagine how bad the thread was during her zatsu.

>>104303741
more of that Freo PLEASE

>>104303522
Maybe if one of the earlier gen girls or Scarle was doing m&g you might get some more guys show up. I feel like Meloco probably has a majority female audience outside of Japan.

>>104303778
and catalog fags aren't happy about it
>>104300470

>>104303880
Jesus that OP reeks of fatty.
Fucking hate this man, the livers should just sit there and take it? Let people abuse them.
I'm sure Enna knows what she's getting into at least.

>>104303719
F1NNST3R

>>104303763
Why are you so angry at the idea of small top big bottom

i just wanna know what vsf drive thru experience is going to be

>>104303880
>still seething about the secret gc stream
they're so thin skinned

>>104303785
As you wish. Only other pic I got
>>104303841
Scarle is def not as big here. If you wanted a girl that the Euros love; most have departed. Wilson seems to be the one all the Frenchies wanted

>>104303094
the aiamigo looks like a nerd

>>104304030
These people are stuck in the past, anytime I see FInana in the catalog is ancient bitching about her like the parasocial fucks thing.

>>104304006
maybe home 3d..

>>104304034
Woops. Forgot to attach

https://x.com/juicebvx/status/1964259874919108682
going to listen to the first few seconds of this whenever i want to feel my heart flutter
>>104304073
i hope!

>>104304034
I was mostly just looking at the line up and thinking its 2 guys and a girl who is probably most watched by girls outside of Japan. So if you had one of the earlier girls there who tend to have more guys in their audiences than the later ones or Scarle who is a bit of an outlier in that respect you might get more guys deciding to show up.

>>104304030
Forever mindbroken that they called out on their bullshit and couldn't take it. Like the shit they're saying to them wouldn't be noticed? It's baffling to see them think they're "untouchable" bc it's 4chan.

>>104303880
That's 100% about matara and mint kek, based enna

>>104304081
huoohhhhh they're so hot. do you know their twitter?

>>104304320
Odd that Matara hasnt shill not reimu.

>>104303987
i'm not, i'm angry at the idea of alban top, it's so wrong

nope, i still miss ike

>>104302051
it is fun just remember to lower the volume

>>104304365
anon they stopped talking to each other and unfollowed on twitter forever ago at this point.

>>104303987
With gay men it's customary to compare dick sizes, who ever is the smallest is on the bottom

>>104304469
Alban topping the most muscular body-builder type men ever

gm... i passed out last night and sonny posted a schedule what the fuck is a vsf drive through experience... ALSO SONNYBON COMEBACK? though they will never be the same because 10jin is a twink now

>>104304785
no.... he needs to get topped and impregnated by an even smaller shota........

>>104304320
Could be about a preemptive hit at Rosemi. Anons are way to dismissive about the idea of Rosemi coming back and stabbing everyone in the back.

Why do people have to make it weird. It's a guy collabing with his friend who just happens to be friends with someone else. He doesn't have to like that someone else or stop being friends with his friend over that?

>>104304994
women love relationship gossip and can only think of relationships in in black and white

>>104303332
>elira
utter disgust and revulsion

>>104304994
something about if my friend is also a friend of someone who ruined my other friends' life

>>104305187
everyone loves sonny

>>104304950
well no she said its something that already happened retard

>>104304994
Stop pretending to be obtuse, if you only care about your oshi that's fine. I won't watch the collab and that's it for me.

>>104304950
No it's a preemptive hit at ike. she knows what's going to happen when he comes back

>>104303094
wow barely any fatties compared to anime impulse

>>104304855
I don't like shipping them so it's good for me I guess

>>104305187
Selen didn't do that. Blame dramatubers.

>abandon friend you've been close with since before joining because they decided to collab with someone you're not even necessarily still friends with
>stay friends with someone who is friends with someone else who arguably ruined the livelihoods of your other friends
you can't please any side. except for the normal fans who don't think in black and white like this and are just happy about it

>>104305482
pomu...

>>104305288
You weren't going to anyway, so who cares?

>>104305524
sonny had nothing to do with the selen situation
elira did

>>104305388
Kill yourself.

>>104305595
kys kadet

>>104305729
built for being my wife

>>104305820
i made this post

>>104303778
>>104303880
Why does this retarded bitch keep feeding dramafags? Holy shit, shut the fuck up. Just when things were dying down. FFS

>>104305974
adorably naive of you to think it matters whether or not someone says something "feeding" them

>>104305337
AI had a few hot chicks. Nobody stunning but a couple lookers.

>>104305974
If saying "don't slander people" is feeding dramafags I wish every vtuber alive would do it

>>104305974
as if matters to you fatass. because anything she says is "feeding drama" in your retarded head.

>>104304030
>>104304167 (me)
Also I'm thinking it, and it's kinda funny in a way, because the most evil people ever getting asshurt at being called out for being evil, so they respond by being evil. Whether or not they're aware of this or if they even care is up in the air.

>>104305362
I just hate how twitter is so loud about it... even non kadets are talking about thankfully i know sonny wont feed into the PL talk and would probably just refer to 10jin as an old friend long before his nijidays

>>104306344
>10jin as an old friend long before his nijidays
Isn't that the truth, though?

>>104306375
yea it's the truth and the only truth but there are people who don't know about his connection with the late bobon

im tired of autistic briskadet can sonny graduate already

>>104306421
do you want more quilldren tier posts then?

>>104306421
Can you point out which posts are theirs so I can filter

>>104306344
https://x.com/blackgugu4/status/1964791784590217589
apparently 10jin referred to him as a new friend so i guess that's what they're going with

>>104306464
ill take 20 misspelled ike posts over constant mini essays and complaints over the tiniest sonny related issues

>>104306582
20 ijke posts coming right up

>>104305993
>>104306124
>>104306151
Watch this be covered by drama channels and spammed here by dramafags. Hope it was worth it.

>>104306576
>yeah i can make new friends
>it's an old friend
they really are the same

elira facing the wrath of a true gacha game

>>104306576
“I love you in every lifetime.”

Get a load of this sleepy feesh!

>>104306701
please kill yourself

>>104306867
You first

>>104306576
>doritos chin vr chat model

seiun get

freedom

>omg tenjin collabed with dooooki????!!!!
>aiiiiiiiieeeeeeee
calm down, retardchamas

>>104306902
kenmochi...

>>104306844
She's a cute feesh

>>104303880
Holy guacamoly, she is so valid for that !!!

>>104306701
>drama channels react to being called out for slandering creators for years in bad faith and profiting off of it by doing exactly that
Good, let them expose their own hypocrisy

>>104306953
okay fatass.

>>104307151
for
>>104306978

>>104303094
Mysta…

10Jin looks like he's going to challenge Sonny to a duel for the Millenium puzzle

>>104307151
eudrick...

>>104307250
LET ME IN

Shu is begging Elira to use his not even 9 star Maruzensky…

>>104306936
>>104306939
I did 110 pulls and got shit, should have saved for a spark in the future but Elira got me going :'(

>>104307062
I'm sure that's how it will go down.

>>104303778
I'm a bit bothered at how this implies that Enna is secretly a numberfag.

Maggie!

https://magma.com/d/rhTuoMqcTN
https://magma.com/d/rhTuoMqcTN
https://magma.com/d/rhTuoMqcTN

>>104307427
>seeing people actively working against you to grow and gain new viewers make you a "numberfag"
You wouldn't survive if you were in their shoes.

>>104307427
Girl would rather play elden ring than enable supa to get money.

>>104307526
she literally started her rant with
>I'm sure you guys can notice, there's been a huge decline in a lot of our views and analytics

>>104307659
>speaking the truth is bad now

>>104307659
Yes and then followed it up with the why that happened, her talking about numbers was the set up.
Im surprised that Lunguini guy didn't get more shit, everytime anyone outside of that vtuber sphere wants to collab with Niji its all "UMM DID YOU KNOW THEY DID THIS?"

>>104307725
Well, do they know?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsChjMsKyVQ
ike never did reclaimed his jump king crown.

>>104307427
If you're a streamer chances are you're a numberfag unless you do things that are detrimental for viewers like backseating and guessing will get you banned and play the same dull game for many hours on end for many streams.

>>104307918
why should it matter? oh right, you just want to gaslight to manipulate people into thinking the en livers are "bad people" so you can isolate them further. go fuck yourself.

>>104307926
He said he didn't want to

>>104307975
I mean why does it matter if someone drinks Starbucks or eats McDonald's.

So who is missing from the pile?

who in nijien is a zionist

>>104308049
>shifting goalpost

>>104307427
>secretly

Enna is genuinely retarded.

>>104308086
Shark Ike is so cute :3

*Yawn*, stfu and only post back when Enna starts putting up some obnoxious subscription counter the whole stream.

>>104308092
Zaion...ist...

which nijien girl has the hairiest ass

>>104307969
>play the same dull game for many hours on end
wiwa…..

yes yes yes!
what a beautiful day!

>>104307926
why did you link this clip why did you remind me of ikes sweet voice

Moving on from Enna's number rant, she has a point. How do you move on from this? It's been well over a year at this point and even after concerts and covers, views have not bounced back and it's become incredibly difficult to grow their fanbase (at least for girls). How do you fix this?

>>104308307
You don't.
The people that left are the genuine fans that want to stick around.

>>104308307
shut the fuck up and go back

>>104308307
Get rid of the clique. Easy.

>>104308307
It's unfixable

>>104308307
move to japan or graduate if you can't

>>104308307
>it's become incredibly difficult to grow their fanbase (at least for girls).
You know, there's something very telling with how female fans are more willing to see past all the drama bullshit and be supportive than male "fans".

>>104308307
put me in coach i have a vita which means life

>>104308307
Unironically, fire the females and make it an only male branch. That's the only way to start off fresh.

>>104308307
Debut new girls to attract new fans.

>>104308424
>Forgetting the Vox yabs
Ok

>>104308307
They can spam shorts like Maria to gain back the lost subs but live views is not affected by that. They need to debut someone like Salome.

>>104308307
Realistically the company should actually work to promote the livers and especially the girls. Not just as side pieces to JP.
Everything done to recover the branch image has been done by the livers themselves because the company gave up trying and has quietly shifted them into JP. Stuff like actual events, stuff like more clips and animations involving multiple livers, merch that doesn't suck ass, more 1 minute shorts on livers, more collabs with JP so it feels more natural when en livers participate in JP events.
All of that would be great but instead the company is completely focused on promoting 2 specific waves and everyone except for them can fuck off for all they care

>>104308476
case in fucking point! it's been over two years and you schizos still bring it up as if it relevant! meanwhile his female fans realized that the harassment was wrong.

>>104308461
Mix gens/waves/branches or whatever are clearly a failure in the west. As much as I don't want that to be the case, it is. So, new girls won't fix anything.

>>104308482
In this case it's not as much about debuting, but getting rid of bad actors. Subtraction before addition.

are we getting railed

>>104308532
You have a point certainly but vox is one of the lower watched males and I think the lowest watched in Luxiem, a good portion of his fans didn't come back after his multiple yabs.

>>104308569
not yet, bend over

>>104308519
>side pieces to JP
>because the company gave up trying and has quietly shifted them into JP.
>more collabs with JP so it feels more natural when en livers participate in JP events.
so which is it fatass?

>>104308569
derailed

>>104308532
>female fans realized that the harassment was wrong
When did this happen? Because most of his viewerbase straight up left, he used to be big time, now he is a small fraction of what he used to be

>>104308538
I don't think that anon was talking about mixed, I think they meant actually debuting female wave. But the company won't do that because as is the females don't get fucking shit

>>104308577
>continuing to prove my point
to think i'll see full grown men be more high school drama obsessed than actual women.

>>104308443
i say this as someone who for the most part has no interest in the girls' streams or content (i mean that kind of applies to everyone except for my oshi) but this would be incredibly boring

Retards watch stream instead of replying to fatty

>>104308532
you don't actually believe this, do you?

>>104308519
>AR Live, Summer Jam, Niji ENcounter, Overture, 3D lives for multiple waves
These are all things the company did in order to try to win back people's trust (views). It didn't work.

>>104308599
see
>>104308616
find a hobby bro.

>>104308482
>find a salome
You say that like it's easy. Salome was a lightning in a bottle and even by chance we do find one fitting that for EN, she would get overlooked by bias. There needs to be a change in the perception of NijiEN.

>>104308631
this, go watch enna stream where she talked about this

>>104308307
Hate to sound like a shitposter. But they really can't. They need to be happy with what they have or if they are really desperate become pseudo JP. If they treat this just like a fun hobby on top of a real job then maybe it wouldn’t be so bad

I don't really get what Enna is complaining about but does it have anything to do with why she's not playing Sekiro?

>>104308616
>>104308646
I accept your concession

>>104308443
They need new girls. Get rid of the existing girls with the baggage and debut new ones.

>>104308640
>It didn't work.
And that's on the fault of the EN sphere being drama obsessed and outright ignoring anything good happening in Niji and writing it off as "stopping graduations". It's no use to win those retards "back", as if we ever had them in the first place.

i want to lay down in his grasp and feel his abs and stomach on my back

anyways,

>>104308687
>no argument
>not even denying being drama obsessed

>>104308640
Those were all for existing fans though.

i still haven't forgiven vox and i never will

for a second i thought i accidentally clicked into the numberfag thread

>>104308703
>and writing it off as "stopping graduations".
And they were right. See Reimu and Rosemi graduating right after the well ran dry.

>>104308725
i want to give millie fifty kids

>>104308631
ike isn't streaming so there's nothing to watch

>>104308703
This. The EN scene is filled with COVID tourists who refuse to understand vtubing culture and encourage scummy shit like doxxfaggotry and grooming. We're better off without them.

>>104308579
Call me whatever you want but none of those statements contradict.
The events the livers do are pretty much exclusive to Japan, it makes it feel like the en branch hardly even exists at this point. One concert every 9 months in the west doesn't make it exciting to be an en fan, especially when a good chunk of the branch aren't invited to participate in the concert.
If livers were actually to interact more often with JP at least it would feel more natural than just throwing them into events as openers. It's cool that we got to see people like Enna open but it feels unnatural because there's no actual interaction with JPs for 99% of the branch

>Dont really play Uma, just randomly log in to get the free shit
>Log in today
>New horse
>My xitter keeps telling me shes big meta
>Do a pull
>Get her first try
well fuck, now what

>>104308749
Again, you guys are retarded.

So anon,
What are you doing/watching right now?
What streams you are waiting to watch?

>>104308768
Wasn't a cancer patient just attacked yesterday and sent death threats and harassed? The Nijisis are the problem.

>>104308730
>Hey most of Vox's female viewerbase left him because of his yabs, so your argument of that the female fans being better is invalid
>erm, actually, your drama obsessed
Ok

>>104308804
im thinking about ririmu
im waiting for ririmu

>>104308798
>The events the livers do are pretty much exclusive to Japan, it makes it feel like the en branch hardly even exists at this point.
Only you see that fatass.

>>104308307
There is a fix but no one here would ever go for it and even mentioning it causes seething. On top of that, I don't even know if it's possible. There would need to be a very public burying of the hatchet between you know who and everyone else with a promise of doing better. That's the only way I see of fixing and directly addressing the issue but I don't think management would ever allow that.

>>104308812
That is correct. Also are you looking forward to Nimi's wedding?

>>104308725
I want to worship and massage Kurara's body

>>104308809
>no actual credible source
>no discord screenshots, no xitter screencaps, nothing but hearsay.
>b-but it's all real btw fuck those nijisis!
The JP scene would have never let this shit be legitimized. EN is killing vtuber culture in the same way they're killing anime/manga.

>>104308804
Elira
8 streams in 5 days, truly a blessing

>>104308856
>There would need to be a very public burying of the hatchet between you know who and everyone else with a promise of doing better
That will never happen. It's obvious to everything that Doki is no longer in contact with anyone at Niji and probably still viewers them as "bullies".

>>104307604
Fromsoft doesn't allow it

>>104308307
Get rid of the people who caused this, then debut new people. Clean slate.

>>104308804
ike

Debuting new talent is pretty much the only effective way to get new fans and bring back fairweather fans, and this isn't a strictly Nijisanji thing, this is general entertainment industry strategy/planning/marketing. People just like new, shiny stuff.

I'm amazed no one posted "fire Elira" as a solution on "fixing the EN branch". Guess people don't really hate her that much anymore.

>>104308809
>I'm being harassed!
>they're sending evil streamlabs to my oshis!
>believe me guyss!!
twisty has done irreparable damage to online discourse.

>>104308856
Tazumi more or less did this with his video apologizing for how the situation went down last year and promising to do better for EN, but people didn't accept it.

>>104308861
Who the fuck is Nimi?

>>104308960
The only people that still care about the drama weren't going to watch niji anyway

>>104308960
we are talking about enna here, this is all started because of enna

>Rosemi pls pls graduate too and take the indie pill
>the indie pill:

>>104308856
notReimu could probably do it, if she and the other party had the inclination to, but I wouldn't say it's incumbent upon her to do so especially since people would probably still make excuses for why it wouldn't count anyway.

>>104308991
English speaking fans didn't watch that. They only saw Elira's stream.

>>104308991
The black screen stream preemptively undid any good Riku's apology would have done.

Do you guys miss rosebuds?

>>104308995
>playing dumb
I accept your concession.

>>104308640
>AR Live
Was missing literally half of the livers originally promised. Even at a discounted price, many people felt burned that it was taking place so long after it was promised. They also cut a portion of it out because of Selen
>Summer jam
Was cool would have been better if they had more stuff like that
>Niji ENcounter
Cool concept but they also didn't give like half the branch and opportunity to do anything and we've heard a total of 1 of those songs live since it came out. Would have been cool if they continued to do it
>Overture
Was missing half the branch and Nijifes is something en has always participated in, from the sounds of it several en livers won't be participating in the upcoming one either.
>Multiple 3D Lives
Literally stuff that should have happened years ago. While it's exciting to see people getting their 3D stuff, it's hard to blame people for not being excited when it took 3+ years to get there.

>>104309034
Both videos were planned at the same time. It's as if you retards didn't even watch the same thing as us.

>>104308640
They have to get rid of the problem people and issue an apology.

>>104308998
Fair enough
>>104309008
Wouldn't anons blame Enna's fuckups on Elira because of "clique nepohire" rrats?

>>104309088
>we've heard a total of 1 of those songs live since it came out
How to tell me you don't watch EN without saying you don't watch EN

>>104309088
>IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!
>excuses on top of excuses
just kill yourself

btb sub growth mogs every single EN vtuber who isn't holo related btw. but keep doomposting, I'll be watching Kaelix.

>>104309088
don't forget they also delayed AR live because of "covid" where even the livers complained about it

BTB showed that fairweather fans can come back. So just debut new girls and let time work its magic.

>>104309053
Yes

>>104309059
Ok, schizo

>>104309136
The only one I remember seeing/hearing live was Solar Dawn. If there were others performed at hopcon I must have missed it

>>104309197
acceleration does work huh....

guys im a true nijinen fans for real noomber low i sad but believe me i am true niji en fan!!!!!!!!

>>104309269
It's the doomer ryuguard just ignore him

>>104309269
hi enna

>>104309269
Enna is more than just a NijiEN fan

>>104309197
One thing that kaelix and the rest of btb is that only do they show promise, is that they also actively working towards their dreams and actively working to be better. Whereas twisty for example, she showed no promise and was trying really hard to scare away people and sabotage everyone around her. It ultimately lead to her terminations and forcing another EN liver to graduate bc of her.

>>104309269
this but unironically

I'm honestly worried over any potential new female hire being lazy at best or an uncontrollable menhera at worst. It's a miracle Klara is relatively normal and sane.

>>104309301
tbf aster also had zero promise

>>104309235
>spouting buzzwords
concession accepted

I miss Ryugal and her glorious bush

>>104308935
miss

>>104309141
Recovering a branchs image takes a lot of work, yes. Giving people things that were expected years ago and expecting them to be super excited about it, is literally retarded. Excluding half the branch from events and then expecting people to roll over, doesn't excite people or bring in new people

Would any girl join now though

I won't reply but enna and every other livers are the only one individual who's valid enough to care about numbers. It's literally their JOB that's on the line. Of course they would notice and eventually gets worried. You fat retards never had a job once in your life and it definitely shows.

>notAster is objectively more successful than Twisty
What a tweest

>>104309324
He was actually working to being an esports guy, which was why he was trying hard in league, apex, and valorant later. He also wanted to get better at singing, which was later shown, and probably japanese. But he never got the chance to show it.

>>104309312
They should just nepohire some of Millie and Elira's friends, I don't get the fearmongering about nepohiring when it's historically led to strong hires who have a proven track record as content creators and pre-existing synergy with existing talents, both within Niji and in other agencies.

>>104309367
>more excuses
just say you're an unhappy retard and fuck off already.

>>104309383
When a new person joins they just get piled on with all the old people and their baggage. I wish there was a fresh start without the baggage dragging them down.

>>104309383
1 or 2 views I think would, just to get a foot in the door viewer wise. It's just not worth it if you're already an established 3 view to join and bring your audience and get dragged down with a ton of baggage and drama.

>>104309088
>We want events !!!
Events happen
>NOT LIKE THAT !!!

>>104309383
after the rumors of girls treated badly in nijien, probably bottom of the barrel girls left who wants to join

>>104309346
yeah

If the EN branch reputation is that bad, surely people like linguini, girl_dm and Maia get harassed for collabing with them?

>>104309197
the real questing would be: are there enough and capable girls willing to joing NIJI EN and actually work to make things better instead of being menhera, sabotage each other, just joining to get close to the guys and just use the branch as a stepping board to boost their post-Niji indie careers in 2025-2026?

>>104309528
by this logic sonny should be harassed for collabing with doki's friend

>>104309403
I'm actually happy for him, good for him

>>104309532
Yes (me)

>>104308307
You move on by just moving on, what else is there to do? Debut more waves and continue bringing in new fans.
BTB have shown it works. If new fans watch the existing livers, then that's great, and if they don't, well they're still helping promote the EN brand by being fans of whatever the newest generation is, which helps keep EN in the algorithm and can indirectly lead to other new fans who discover the existing livers.
There are always going to be those whose channels stagnate and that's perfectly fine. JP livers like Ichigo and Hajime still regularly stream despite getting a fraction of what the least popular EN members get.

>>104309528
Did you forget how crazy people went over amalee doing a collab with Luca ?

elira likes the yandere horse in JP

>>104309587
everybody loves sonny

>>104309637
Vshojo is confirmed to be scummy enough to spend money generating fake outrage so I'm blaming them for that shit.

I am going to do it, to PULL SEIUN SKY

>>104308800
I've gotten so many good characters in Granblue but it doesn't matter because I don't actually play the game, I just log in and do the free pulls since it takes like 10 seconds.
You have to actually play the game for it to matter. Of course in gacha meta doesn't really matter because there's always another meta character that gets released. What actually matters is that you like the character, because then you'll actually want to play the game for her. Maybe you'll find that one someday.

>>104309624
>debut more waves and bring in new fans
>btb has shown it works

It doesn't always work though, TTT and Denauth were failures. How do you make sure every wave is a success. Especially if it isn't an all boy wave.

>>104309673
i'm everybody

>>104309707
Amalee was part of Vshojo, you think they would spend month to attack one of their own?

>>104309761
yes

>>104308307
For the livers personally, all they need to do is realize that the core fanbase has always stuck by them which is what Enna was talking about. Events like AI are actually super important for liver morale because it helps them put faces to chatters and lets them know they're not as isolated as they might think they are.

>>104309761
Yes

>>104309719
The girls side won't be fixed until they get rid of the clique.

Stop spamming fatty, find new material

>>104309301
Much as I hate invoking her, a good counter example to this would reimu.
I can praise her for being the most consistent streamer, but music wise she didn't do much to further her goals.

>>104309761
They literally pin vshojo members on each other. It was so bad that every other vshojo member collectively hates Ironmouse.

>>104309719
>How do you make sure every wave is a success
You don't. Not every wave has to be a success. The very notion is laughable; is every musician a success? Every actor?

>>104309532
question*

Ignore the buzzwords. post a beautiful, cute, or silly image of your oshi.

>>104309761
>stealing their own member money
>Allowing one member to harass another because of harry potter game
Yes

>>104304081
Got @'s of any of the cosplayers?

>Bora forma de Tsuna commented on nachume's work turned to anime
Cute...
https://x.com/tsuna_nekota/status/1964691042592317854

>>104309916
To have your creation turned into an anime, living the dream.

>>104309916
isn't that more because her mama was the original illustrator of the LN

wonder if there are people jobless enough to review bomb nachume's anime on MAL when it airs because she's a niji

>>104309505
>WE WANT EVENTS
>"the best we can do is exclude half the branch from new stuff and give you stuff that was promised years ago. We will not give you anything new outside of this"

>>104309916
It’s similar to generic casual comedy anime nowadays, but it can become popular because it originally came from a VTuber. I suppose current LN and manga authors should consider becoming VTubers.

>>104310046
how new are you you fucking faggot if you think overture should have been a full branch concert lol

>>104309034
The other stream was reviewed by the niji lawyers and management gave the go signal. If anything it’s management fault going with those 2 videos instead of letting the ceo do all the work.

>>104310000
she's niji jp

>>104309869
not a stargazer, but i've been waiting to bake a thread with this uki

listening to the album yukari telepath by coaltar of the deepers with sonny in a dimly lit room

>>104310000
Hahaha, how many people in the world actually care about finding the name of an anime's author, aside from the extremely popular ones

>>104310172
oh... my beautiful baby boy.... i want to bite his legs

>>104309532
They exist deep within the mines of the 1- to 2-views.

>>104309528
An artist got harassed for drawing Elira with other hologirls.

>>104309532
the REAL question is: even if there are, can recruiters sift them out from the likely mountain of all of the above?

>>104308991
the timing was horrible. Tazumi-san's video by itself, while it wasn't perfect, would have been enough. Whoever in EN management who thought that the black stream video was a good idea needs to be fired.

>>104310172
He was so excited for his shorts.......

>>104310221
Yeah me, elira shouldn't be together with these holowhore

>>104310046
You mean project your own rules about how things should be organized and who they should pick, disregarding the fact that at the end of the day it’s still a corpo that needs to make profit. Anon, it’s not a charity… I’m sure you must have experience working at a talent company to speak like that.

>>104310223
unlikely. the real gems would be some 1-2 views that are just doing this out of love for the hobby and even then it's a gamble.

People tell me that NIJIEN SUCCS and I say 'ok, I'll aislop that'

>>104310221
I still genuinely believe that the Elira hate was artificially pushed by dokifags.

>>104310252
>ESL Millie.jpg

Don't let this distract you from the fact that Cover use Ai art for their concert backgrounds.

>>104310349
Small company please undastando their stock is dropping again

>>104310221
A cosplayer got harassed too for cosplaying Elira. It’s also a holocosplayer…

>>104310323
Fagoons don't even care anymore, it's phasecucks pushing this shit because Elira isn't a "based/chud" enough for them

mana and rai overstimulating willy's willy

Nah still hate dookiefags, you can't change my mind

>>104310046
Yes this is how things work, the popular people get the thing, this is true even in JP.
Its a profit oriented business, not a charity.
>>104310323
I feel a lot of the hatred stemmed from people just wanting something to beat on, up until the black screen stream, Millie and Enna where bearing the brunt of it with a lot of spillover to other livers, then the black screen streamed happened and it really kicked off the hate, it gave them targets to attack at last and they focused their hatred and ire hardcore on them.

>>104309528
>girl_dm
her CCV fell off because she kept collabing with them.

selen was in my top 3 and my "shit on Niji" phase lasted like a month, I don't know how people can remain bad faith for this long since it has to be exhausting trying to twist even Niji's attempts at improvement as somehow a "bad thing" or "it didn't count because it was too late"

>>104310323
It was artificially pushed by reddit. Seriously nobody ever talks about how the r/nijisanji sub was extremely slow because Niji fans don't use reddit, then out of nowhere a highly active r/kurosanji pops up overnight. It all circles back around to reddit.

>>104310474
it fell off because she had a visual update that turned her into basically a man

>>104310078
Even outside of overture though the majority of events en
>>104310284
You can't both simultaneously be asking how to improve the branch while going
>well it's not a charity!
if you want to improve the branch image the only way to do so is to take a risk and be charitable in order to bring people back. Giving people events that were promised years ago and not doing anything with half the branch doesn't really inspire faith

>>104310477
Do you still watch her?

What a slow painful death this branch is going through

>>104310539
yeah

>>104310507
I really hope you're not referring to the sexy villainess model as a man.

>>104310507
so she nijified herself? got it.

>>104310474
False, it fell off because she changed one of the best rigged models in the business to some shitty stiff, "villain" one, it unanimously hated and she had a meltdown about THIS IS HER TRUE VISION and that people that didn't like it could just leave.
And so they did.

>>104310507
not sure about girl_dm but I believe Doki's numbers did fall off because of her terrible tomboy/dyke/femboy models

>>104310239
why did things have to turn out like this.... man.....

>>104310456
Only Millie received a significant amount of hate in the immediate aftermath of Selen's termination solely because of schizos interpreting her tweet in the worst possible way.

Told you shitposters don't watch anything, they hate vtubers

>>104310559
So you're like one of a handful of nijigoons left

>>104310477
>people
NIJIantis, they will never let up

>>104310600
https://streamable.com/26fzn3

>>104310591
She fell off because she's a terrible solo streamer, she worked well in Niji because had people to bounce off a lot, by herself, her solo streams are just aggravating, doesn't pay attention, fucks up the controls, basically go watch her MGR stream as Selen and you get a good idea of how she is when left to her own devices.

>>104310437
until he pisses himself right?

>>104310591
nah, she still has the same numbers she had when she was selen. i agree that her models suck tho.

>>104310642
>Anon posts something about people interpreting Millie's tweet in the worst possible way
>You reply with a video also interesting Enna's worst in the worst p[possible way
A BVTM video no less.

>>104310563
That villainess is more handsome than most male vtubers. She looks more like a love interest in an otome than the villainess

>>104310591
The short hair is fine especially with the gag boobs
Not being womanly enough does make her feel detached though

>>104310645
I still cringe remembering her crying over the tutorial so hard Pomu had to tell her chat to stop bullying her.

>>104310670
She gets botted because it's a lot easier to bot one person than it is a whole company. Then they can easily push the narrative that she's "winning" and leaving was a good thing for her

>>104310642
Thank you for confirming you're a dramafag who's just falseflagging as a nijifan, I will now ignore any further provocations because they are obviously just shitposts instead of just misinformed.

>>104309514
>the rumors of girls treated badly in nijien
Then theywalk into traps like vshojo or get overworked in Holo. Isn't the EN vtubing sphere wonderful?

>>104310563
There is nothing sexy about that model. Its crap compared to one she was using before, the meltdown over people hating it was just icing on the cake, pure woman moment.

>>104310591
Numbers across the board have fallen off, I think western audiences have just gotten tired of vtubers in general.

>>104310456
Elira was already hated before that because of the clique rrats. Millie was hated because of secret gc and her reply to Selen and her clip of defending niji. Enna not as bad as the other two but her membership got clipped and leaked. The black screen pushed the antis for their hate propaganda to finally take off.

>>104310223
Doubt it. I have to wonder how many better girls were passed up to hire twisty of all people?

>>104310645
>She bounced off people a lot
What are you talking about anon? She almost never collabed with people except for rare occasions like nijicancelled or events? She was pretty much always a solo streamer.

>>104310693
I guess men have thin waists, visible breasts, and wear skirts where you're from. Actually now I want to go wherever you're from. Thailand?

>>104310742
I noticed that some twitter vtuber fans now jump to umamusume as their next bandwagon

>>104310742
It used to be fun and now it’s draining. Not just for us but for everyone. Also it’s so saturated now

>>104310710
>She gets botted
nah, her chat speed and superchats don't lie. also, doubt anyone would bot her, seeing as /#/ hates her. only /#/fags bot streams to prove a point.

>>104309719
>TTT and Denauth were failures
That's because vivi, kunai, and twisty were failures. They didn't even try to better themselves while twisty made only herself worst.

>>104310645
Most of her popular streams when she was in Niji were collab with a lot of bantering with other members. I guess now that she has gone indie, people are just scared of her menhera personality, making it hard to reach the same level of bantering as in Niji, which made her streams interesting.

>>104310790
Chat speed has nothing to do with CCVs, unless you can count a thousand people in chat, which you can't.

>>104310771
LA actually

Even the lowest viewed EN's make good money, enough to pay off debts at least, if you're a low 2 view joining EN would be a step up, and as it stands its the only game in town willing to cast such a wide net as everyone else is dead or dying.
Like, can you imagine ANY other corpo hiring a woman like Nina? All these shit ass corpos just want the same cookie cutter personalities, its the only thing I'll praise Phase on, they at least hire some real weirdos that don't fit that "idol" mold.

>>104310742
no, even regular streamers and youtubers have noticed the lack of CCV too. it's youtube fucking up again, and not showing the real numbers.

>>104310715
If you point this out, they'll call you out for deflection, but then they walk into another trap where now it looks like they expect a higher standard for Nijisanji talents compared to Hololive or VShojo.

>>104310790
Hummmm.....

>>104310826
true, but the donos don't lie.

>>104310742
the constant drama, oversaturation and then vshojo imploding made a lot of people tired of the hobby and moved on.

>>104310781
I always knew that game was going to be popular here, but I didn't expect it to be so popular it would cannibalize the vtuber community. Cygames is fucking retarded for waiting as long as they did to localize it

>>104309832
>a good counter example to this would reimu
She would be a prime example. Zuttomo had promise, but she left before it could blossom. She was a guest a Deron's live concert, but probably felt live performing was too much. And gaming-wise? She appeared in vsaikyou, the biggest esports tourney in vtubing, many years back but never again since and while looking down on the "sweaty" gamers.

>>104310839
There are no real numbers, considering at least half the Web are bots now.

>>104310836
Niji doesn't get enough credit for hiring Nina, I remember so much rage that a corpo would dare hire her, calling her PL "blackened" and all sorts of insane schizo crap, and yet now she's beloved. All because Niji took a huge risk on her

>>104310046
>exclude half the branch
What will you retards think if EN expands past it current number?

>>104310890
Lol, lmao. Only overseas fags beg for more global versions of the Japanese games they love I have never heard of the opposite case

>>104310875
I don't think any of those things would affect Hololive, but their numbers are down as well

>>104310477
It was too late. When the big graduations and terminations began then it was too little too late. They should have had a plan got 2023, not turbo charge everything after their reputation was in the gutter at 2024. There was no way it would attract new people.

>>104310904
That's why I found her reason for graduating dumb, she never made any attempt to really push herself as a performer/singer.
I'd said this before but if you wanted a concert, you have to prove you deserve it and work hard as fuck, even Chronoir didn't get everything handed to them, they work as hell for a long time to get there.
>>104310931
She was the biggest dark horse pick in vtubing history.

>>104310946
Holo EN is in its own bubble. It's a "walled garden" for a reason.

YouTube has been fucking with the numbers lately. Even big streamers have taken a notice to it. Turns out YouTube isn't counting or including everyone watching. For example lurkers and watchers without accounts won't be counted anymore. All this is because YouTube is trying to implement the ID verification system and combating bots. Crazy shit.

>>104310970
They should hide the ccv like they did with dislike

>>104310529
>if you want to improve the branch image the only way to do so is to take a risk and be charitable in order to bring people back
There's taking risks, then there's
>just include the whole branch bro!!
Which is absurd and you know it.

>>104310946
Cover is making plans on trying to enter the western Twitch esport scene.

>>104310942
That's because western games get translated into Japanese regardless. Only Japan is stupid enough to hold their own games hostage and kill profits for no reason

>>104310742
>I think western audiences have just gotten tired of vtubers in general.
you retards say this every year!

>>104310966
Exactly my point, but like I said, their numbers are down as well, giving credence to it being a Youtube fuckup

>>104310942
If the game isn't mobile or portable then it is niche. People still think of console or desktop games in regards for the west even though such games like Angry Birds or Candy Crush exist.

>>104311043
It's true tho

>>104310970
that and switching on restricted mode without you knowing is making things more difficult. like i couldn't get updates on which livers were live because of it and have to manually turn it off to fix it. it's so stupid.

Speaking of ex-livers, chances of Reimu trying to leech off Mika now that they're both are obsessed with Epicslop? Not they they interacted or anything but still.

>>104311075
Who cares

>>104310970
Twitch is doing the same with Phone verification soon
Soon privacy on the Net will be no more

>>104311075
Eww don't talk about indog whore

>>104311114
Would this place follow soon?

>>104311075
notmika just did a successful subathon, that's a prime leech target

Please stop engaging with fatty...

>>104311148
I'm parasocial for him sorry

>>104311132
Probably, the UK is trying to take this place and others like it down

>>104311132
Lol i hope so, the FBI should strike this site's owner and put in a verification system

>>104310890
Personally, I didn't expect it to get as popular as it currently is. I figured it would stay within the at-the-time existing overseas Umamusume fandom and catch the interest of a small percentage of the gacha gaming community and miscellaneous weebs, but it blew up much further than that.

>>104311132
4chins told the UK they'd rather stop letting bongs access the site than kneel to their bullshit

I think merch sales being down is more of an indicator of the shit ass worldwide economy we find ourselves in.
Nobody's going to argue that the selen stuff didn't do something, it did, but the current recession plays into it(holo included), people aren't gonna keep dropping money and buying shit when things are bad financially.

>>104311181
newfag

>>104311180
4chan literally old offcom to go fuck itself, a foreign power has no power over the US internet, and in fact every website that has complied with the ID stuff has seen massively reduced traffic so far.

>>104311211
the tariffs situation doesn't help things either. getting vtuber merch in the US just became much more difficult.

>>104311148
Then say something fucking interesting already. There's nothing else to talk about. No one actually talks about cool topics or ideas, it's just one of the following posts

>Screenshot of ririmu
>This but ike
>Some 2 second gif with no text
>Fatty makes a post

>>104311250
Japan post isn't even shipping to the US, shit fucking sucks.
I ordered my Overture blu-day, it comes out in December so I hope something gets sorted otherwise I dunno what's gonna happen.

Nothing good going on in this thread

Have you guys considered the possibility that the whole world is going to shit and it's not entirely Vtubings fault for the "decline"? Like rampant censorship and economic decline is hitting the whole world, not just Vtubing.

People have been predicting NijiEN would die for years and it just keeps going while dozens of other corpos have been crashing and burning around them. The funniest one I saw was someone who preemptively said something about even though it was obvious to him that it was a black corpo that was doomed to die, it would take a while for it to actually happen. Because he clearly didn't want to have egg on his face when it didn't happen in a couple months, and hoped people would forget about his post. But then when it did happen in a year he'd be able to swoop in and point to his post saying "see, I predicted this a year ago!" Pure sociopath behavior. That was over two years ago now and it still hasn't happened. These people just throw shit at the wall and hope something sticks, then act like prophets if one of the thousand things they said coincidentally happens to be correct.

>>104311263
"This but ike" should spam their posts right now instead of doing it in dead hour, i guess they are all shitposters

>>104311241
But the US will be trying to implement the same laws the UK has.

>>104311289
It's called a "knock on effect". Vtubing is going to shit BECAUSE the world is going to shit.

>>104311263
ike topics are the only good thing itt though

>>104311320
Key word is trying and it hasn't happened yet.
If it happens, oh well, but people will fight it, they're already sick of the censorship.

>>104311293
If you told anons years ago that Vshojo would have died before NijiEN, they'll call you a shitposter. Now look where we are now.

>>104310932
I've said before that acceleration is pointless if they don't bother to help out the members in the branch currently because it just means even more people get even less. Until they can actually give stuff to everyone then I don't think a lot of people will trust NijiEN again
>>104311003
Why is it dumb to include other members in stuff like ENcounter and other stuff like that?

47,13%
33,80%
102/135
6/8

>>104311263
I prefer a dead thread over a shit thread. Why would you even entertain someone like him ?

>>104311343
Oh shit I didn't know you're British, now I have to start reading your posts in a british accent

>>104311338
do you think ike is on his period right now
sitting on the toilet and crying his eyes out because his hormonal mood swings are making his rampant depression even worse
so cute

>>104311342
>Until they can actually give stuff to everyone
Literally impossible, I once again point to JP with over a 100+ members.
People will be left out, that's just how things are, you aren't entitled to jack shit.

sonny please eat

>>104311263
>>104309869

>>104311293
would you rather die a quick death or live a long life of pure pain and agony?

>>104311385
Me out

>>104311342
>Until they can actually give stuff to everyone then I don't think a lot of people will trust NijiEN again
No one who watches Aia or Scarle gives a shit about them performing songs in NijiFes, why would forcing livers who have their own unique niches and no inclination towards those kinds of events to participate have a positive effect on brand image?

It makes sense they would still target Elira so hard after all these years, after all despite their best efforts she is still the most popular girl in the company. They know if they can take her down the rest will be no threat. Just like how Kurapika knew if he could beat Uvogin anyone else in the Phantom Troupe would be a piece of cake.

>>104311372
he's also holding in his pee while doing this because even though he's sitting right there he's trying to clean the bloodslop out of his pants and is stubbornly refusing to do anything else until he's finished
eventually though the instincts of his body take over and his sphincter gives out, and it feels to him just like he's peeing his pants even though he's right on the toilet
and he cries

>niji vtuber anime announcement thread on /a/ is dead
it's over

BtB's pretty successful, right? Just debut female BtB
>someone made in a lab to appeal to people
>someone who released an entire album on debut
>someone who plays niche games that most of the branch don't touch
>someone who looks normal but is pretty unhinged
>everyone's active and cheerful
Now how would they find girls like that that aren't too menhera, have go-getter personalities and have drive to continue? Who knows

>>104311416
>Calling what NijiEN is now "a long life of pure pain and agony"

>>104311263
Hey, don’t talk about my goat ririmuschizo like that. He keeps making post for his oshi even though nobody pays attention to them. Honestly, we should be more like ririmuschizo than waste time engaging with fatty

2025-10-26 - ???

>>104311509
Pretty sure they just see her as leader of sorts.
>>104311517
/a/ is a worthless garbage board.

>>104311263
I’m just trying to get @‘s of the niji cosplayers

>>104311524
I don't know which of those is which in BtB

>>104311509
>she is still the most popular girl in the company
she is now? where is the proof? what's her donos like?

>>104311524
>someone who released an entire album on debut
Someone like Zeal is rare and I'm amazed we got him

>>104311509
I don't read HxH, please use JJK for your analogy thank you.

ririmu likes hxh

>>104311509
>she is still the most popular girl in the company
Now that Rosemi is gone, yeah.

>>104311564
I remember one of those dev gloss holo girls saying if you wanted to make it in vtubing as a man, you should just join Nijisanji, and she's right, the rest of the industry, especially in the west is to oriented toward women.

>>104311564
and he applied several times before too and only got in now, like how? he probably has one of the most impressive resumes out of everyone

>>104311509
>most popular girl
By what measure? Not by CCV and not by donos. Pretty sure Enna and Scarle beat her.

>>104311509
I don't read HxH, please use dragon ball super for your analogy thank you.

>>104311559
I didn't save the image cause I don't care about numbers but IIRC she still consistently beats Scarle and Aia who are the second and third most popular respectively.

>>104311524
>J-just debut a female BtB!
Anon, any EN girl with singing aspirations will just try to go for holo or V4Mirai
EN girl scene is far too polluted now.

>>104311524
NijiEN has/had girls like that, but we've all seen how management ends up treating them

>>104311624
>one of those dev gloss holo girls saying if you wanted to make it in vtubing as a man, you should just join Nijisanji
What a shit thing to say.

>>104311635
it usually comes down to what they're looking for at the moment. expect future livers to mention that they've applied over 10 times.

>>104311693
Is she wrong though

>>104311575
>>104311642
It's like when all the Avengers attacked Thanos and all they managed to do was give him a small scratch on his cheek. Elira is Thanos

>>104311693
Is she wrong?

>>104311487
Aias audience has heard her gripe for the past 2 years avout not being included in anything and it's not like it's just her either. Literally people like Finana, Millie, Meloco, Klara and Ryoma, etc. haven't been included in hardly anything.
>>104311381
JP aren't trying to redeem the branch name

>>104311705
>>104311715
She got instant karma for it because flopgloss is Holo's biggest flop thus far.

>>104311359
im not...

>>104311624
Sometimes there's people like Tsurugi who can make it even outside of Niji, but for the most part, she's probably right. If you're a girl, try to join holo; if you're a guy, go for niji

>>104311693
she's not wrong

>>104311705
It's still a slap in the face to the holostars member, regardless of the truth.

>>104311713
Thanos lost in the end.

Fixing the branch isn't about adding people, it's about subtraction. Get rid of the bad people.

>>104311746
That was a Thanos from a different timeline. The first Thanos won unequivocally.

>>104311738
Their new group is an even bigger failure.
>>104311735
I love Aia but she's menhera as fuck and has been given chances, she's even in the Arc Goes on thing and she is by no means a singer.

>>104311713
what's elira's goal though? what's her thanos snap?

>>104311703
>expect future livers to mention that they've applied over 10 times.
How many times have twisty, zaion, or even kunai applied for niji, I fucking wonder.

>>104311790
her snap was the black screen stream, and it erased half of nijien's fanbase

>>104311681
Why I said not too menhera. It doesn't matter if they're talented if they're gonna crash out

>>104311817
and half the livers too kek

>>104311735
>Meloco, Klara and Ryoma
How would livers who didn't even have their 3D debuts at that point be able to participate in Overture?

>>104311509
The most popular girls right now are definitely Enna, Elira and Meloco now that Rosemi is gone. Scarle and Aia on the other hand bring in supa money.

which luxiem member will collab with mysta?

>>104311817
Then she snapped again and erased vshojo

>>104311817
kek that's true

>>104311838
ike

>>104311742
Some people are lucky like Tsurugi but then you look at most men in Neo-Porte and then yeah…I feel especially sorry for Hiura since if he made it through VTA he probably would have been as popular as the rest of the gen 2 VTA guys

JESUS CHRIST MY SONNY STREAM KEEPS BUFFERING

>>104311833
>>104311851
kek XD lmao

>>104311860
yeshhh...

>>104311817
I mean, you're not wrong

I feel like only FSP has been able to successfully launch a male branch in the west.

>>104311564
I still don’t know how they got Zeal in but when it comes to male waves niji still has the upper hand with their jp
connections.

>>104311896
>btb and starsen are failure now

>>104311896
???

>>104311835
Meloco has 3D, genius.
Klara needs to get to 100K subs to earn that 3D.

Ah, so that's why they've been raiding us for hours. >>104309087

>>104311935
Other than us I mean.
>>104311929
Stars EN is a colossal failure.

>>104311929
btb is not a branch

>>104311940
Overture was in February 2025 retarded

>ger ni ger ni ger
Sonny..........

>>104311646
Anon what the fuck are you talking about she's no where near first

>>104311953
Yeah dude they totally gave three waves to a colossal failure. Do you hear yourself?

>>104311896
Don't jinx them, idiot.

>>104311944
Its always #

>>104311967
Ok, retardado. I meant for future events.

>>104311944
They're reading us? Oh I couldn't tell with all the graphs and CCV talk in our thread

>>104311981
Stars EN 2nd wave 3D debuts gobbled up the entire Stars budget, and I mean THE ENTIRE BUDGET, as in the JP budget to.
That's how little they give a shit about them, and yes they are a failure regardless of debuted waves, they're treated like lepers within their own company.

bettel is more popular than prime mysta and people still think starsen are failure

>>104312018
Prime Mysta was a 5 view, Bettel has never gotten anywhere close to that.

>>104311867
I wouldn't say Tsurugi's all luck. He also has great chemistry with big JP streamers and has great gaming skills. It's hard to recreate what he's done though
VTA on paper is mostly to train people with no experience not necessarily just for Niji but for streaming in general. Sometimes they go through VTA and just don't debut like Koyuki. Still, it would've been nice if he debuted under Niji.

>>104311945
Feesh should get molested more in art

>>104312018
StarsEN never really recovered from Vesper and Magni's graduations.

>>104312072
This but ike

>>104312018
>A single person out of group of 3 being successful means they aren't failures!

>>104311982
I will jinx more

>>104312012
I still don't understand why HoloEN fanbase is so schizo about males, HoloJP interacts with males all the time and nobody complains. But the EN side it's like an actual cult. Like they're trying to imitate some funhouse mirror perception of what Japanese people do and of course failing it because EN fans are retarded and fail at everything they do. EN was terrible for the vtuber community but not in the way most people think. It's because it created these glib facsimiles of JP fans.

I would join Niji just to call Sonny my little brother

>>104312018
No other EN male group has gotten to 2022 prime Luxiem, and no one probably will. Just too many factors that played into them

anons are fighting meanwhile we will get nijinova cover soon

>>104312012
But… but… I thought only Nijien treat one gender better than the other… So is it misandry or homophobia? Do you think dramatubers will make videos about it?

>>104312158
nijinova SUCKS

>>104312174
Dramatubers don't ever touch Holo shit, they glossed over their failure to pay artists for example which made the news in Japan.

>>104312155
>No other EN male group has gotten to 2022 prime Luxiem
explain krisis

Man I really don't care about Uma.
I just don't see the appeal to the game. I guess it's fun if you're gambling on which of the horses that aren't yours will win or some 2nd?

>>104312209
Not even close to the absurd level of popularity of prime luxiem.

>>104312209
krisis don't have their own wave channel and puchi krisis

>>104312209
Krisis? They're okay at best but not Prime Luxiem levels of successful. The ones closest to that is actually BtB.

>>104312209
They're talking about quantity of fans, not quality of content.

>>104312223
pio-chan has been trying to get my resurrected wife into honse game and i love pio but i pray it doesn't stick because one regular gacha is enough

>>104312209
prime luxiem were 5 views without even effort. Literally not even close.

>>104312209
krisis newfags… luxiem were even beating holoen why do you think numberfags are so schizo about them

>>104312114
>I still don't understand why HoloEN fanbase is so schizo about males
They're just transplanting gachafag culture into vtubing. Just look at how they treat male characters in gacha games, compare it to how they treat male vtubers and suddenly it makes sense why Holostars is so hated by them.

>>104312114
>HoloJP interacts with males all the time
Well, some regularly do, but most of them don't, let's be real. Holo is a "walled garden" for a reason. Stars' problem is that unless they can have someone as entertaining and attention-grabbing as Kuzuha, they're always just gonna play second fiddle to the girls. Heck, that's how Holo fans who are okay with guys treat them. "Brotubers"
Honestly, not too dissimilar from Niji's situation, the gender's just reversed. Girls can at least still make it in Niji though, see post-VTA girls

has chat told wiwa about auto skip…

>>104312317
>holobronies are just gachafags
that explains so much

>>104312295
remember when vox's handcam cooking stream's ccv was 15k and it made numberfags shit themselves? good times

>>104311817
>>104311833
Lmao

Is Feesh the most erotic EN vtuber?

>>104312455
>petra
>maria

Luxiem was a lightning in a bottle scenario
It can never be replicated again

>unironic numberfaggotry in 2011 + 14
Zoomers are boring as shit fr fr

>>104312455
Petra, Maria, Enna.

>>104311967
Okay but the most recent hopconcert wasnt in February 2025 and Millie, Finana and Meloco weren't in it. They did however put Claude in it who also doesn't have his 3D.

sonny pissing in my mouth

>>104312514
whats 2011 + 14

>>104312455
It’s Elira for me but she’s too silly.

>>104311742
Wasn't Tsurugi a 3 view before he got popular in gta? I remember he was constantly interacting with Kuzuha and viewers discovered him and came to love him. I remember there were so many clips on twitter during that time with him in them and people starting talking about him like crazy.

>>104312455
Yes

>>104312516
I hear you but counterpoint
https://files.catbox.moe/biuzbm.png
https://files.catbox.moe/o632mx.png
https://files.catbox.moe/b50ao9.png
https://files.catbox.moe/o4l94k.png
https://files.catbox.moe/os60je.png

the first thing sonny eats in the day is chips when he's feeling sick... is he really taking care of his health

>I just really need calories right now
FAT FUCK BRISKO AT IT AGAIN
>I'm just fingering it
SLUT

>>104312656
he also got teamed up with kuzuha and kanae during the last apex vsaikyo

SONNY IS FINGERING ME

>>104312632
I hate gnarly but I have to admit elira's rendition of it was unbelievably sexy
https://youtu.be/r7kfKClouHE?t=2768

>im fingering it
>chat goes ???
>you heard me
why is sonny like this

>>104312535
Hopconcert 2023 and 2024 ?

>>104312693
You make a compelling argument

>>104312807
Weren't in 3d

>>104312693
not bad. would smash that donut right away...

>>104311735
Ryoma is part of the butler collab just recently and Meloco was chosen for japanese game with nari.

>>104312884
And it was the first 3d hopconcert so why are you complaining? It's not like it won't happen again?

>>104312295
Prime luxiem was so huge it destroyed # for months since the boys kept topping their precious charts.
CCV, superchats, you name it.

Prime Luxiem was never going to last forever but I don't know how it just got to where it is now

I miss Ike

I remembered when all of the dramatubers went 'luxiem is the future of vtubing'

>>104313149
False used to be friendly with us.

zerpent birthday soon
https://x.com/zealginjoka/status/1964879702574965021

i’m still pissed that the retarded zoomers didn’t understand the phantom pain joke i did ugh

>>104313118
Waaay too many fuckups. Both on livers' and management's sides. Yugo was the first big crack, but AR Live was the main trigger imo. If it happened when it was supposed to, maybe things would've been better

>>104311860
unironically a possibility that kuro does a doki-mint or a sunny-mogu and gets ike back into streaming... i'd be happy if that happened...

>>104313118
Mysta and Ike were menheras, Shu went on too many hiatuses, Luca couldn't stop using his mommy manager and Vox kept yabbing with his chinese sister audience until they left.

>>104313284
oh, i thought zeal was laying an egg

Since we're talking about the past, who was that one faggot that EN shilled for a lot? Way back in the early days, he did like little animated shorts and even collabed with EN, now he's doing purely Holo stuff.
God who WAS that cunt's name...

>>104313339
he is, that egg being me

>>104313344
jerma...

>>104312061
this but ike

wiwas seiun stamina is kinda worrying teebeehach…

>>104313284
oh that's what it was... i thought it was some neopets thing.
i hope we look cool. like a robot snake or something.

>>104313333
I'm sure you can find successful female vtubers like that out there.

>>104313339
He did, how else do you think zerpents came into existence?

>>104312455
no ike is

i want sonny to play with viewers i need my oniichan fix

>>104313333
It's kinda funny how both Mysta and Ike were menheras but on opposite ends of the spectrum. Mysta was explosive and terminally online, while Ike was too detached and just quietly self-imploded.

>>104313143
yeh...

>>104313294
Isn't it a video game

sonny is so kimoi i'm the only one who will ever love him

>>104313333
Only shu wasn't a menhera.

>>104313294
where

>>104313536
Shu's a menhera too, he just didn't stream it. He seems a lot happier and easy-going now though

Don't care. post more vexpo cosplays

>>104313471
I just want him to play ranked, and as akuma

>>104313510
yeah but luca was joking about the vrchat meme that cutaway to invisible

>>104313486
Ike is too attached to me and I'm a bad influence on him

>>104313626
hi kuro

>>104313626
giwtwm
>>104313675
giwiwk

NijiEN for this feel?

If Ike comes back, hopefully he does creative things and stays out of doing anything public.