Thread 104319586

Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that they're actually a pretty good gen?

>>104319586 (OP)
Considering only GG streams during NA hours I suspect the more accurate phrase is this gen only exists as collab bait

>>104319586 (OP)
not the gen the fans deserve but what the established members needed

>>104319586 (OP)
My favorite gen, they're amazing.

they're good because they're ex-(twitch)indies

I like justice

>>104319586 (OP)
They are good in their own niche which makes them good by default + their fans really like their humor.
What will make them really good is what they will bring to branch this year. The first year is the settling down and looking around year. 2nd year is when they start pulling strings and put in their creativity for branch since they didnt had pull like advent and the western vtubing is at an all time low with all the controversy and economic repression. They have a lot of hard work to do compared to 3rd gen and have to be quick about it since en5 is on the neigh

I like CC/GG a lot. I'm indifferent about Raora, and haven't watched anything from Erb since debut outside of different perspectives in collabs. Pretty solid gen, imo. Also, it's funny to see how GG is pretty much ENs therapy dog.

>>104319942
>Fix Kronii
>Help Calli getting better
Yeah she is good even she have fucked up mom

>>104319586 (OP)
Saves Hololive English.

>>104319586 (OP)
CC and GG alone make it a good gen. The rest is just here to fill the blanks.

>>104319952
>justchads

ERB brings it all down, but 3 out of 4 is very good alright, CCGG in particular are easily the best EN right now. Sadly they still suffer from a lack of diversity in their interests and thus fail to capture new audiences, being their only selling point having a different timezone and that clearly didn't bring the numbers, so in that regard they are a failure.

I know I know, numbers and what not, but it is a reality of the industry which can't be ignored since it's one of the few metrics we have around to empirically determine their success.

>>104323390
>ERB brings it all down
But why

>>104323429
Dude?, she barely streams for shit.

>>104319586 (OP)
There won't be any kind of Myth-level of ground breaking success, not even with EN5, we need to accept it was a lighting in a bottle type of deal.
I think they're fine. ERB has perhaps the best HoloEN voice but has yet to make something meaningful with it, also barely streams, people love GG and while I don't hate her I just can't stand her "LOOK AT ME IM SCREAMING" type of humor, Cecilia is my potential oshi but barely shows off her editing and violin skills. Raora is probably my favourite simply because she commits at what she's good at, art and yapping, and her ESL appeal makes her cuter.
It probably helps that I'm from EU so I can catch up with most of their streams outside of GG, although they've been going for more US-friendly time-zone streaming hours lately.

>>104323456
I would disagree with you if she had an album already.

>>104319586 (OP)
Raora is the only semi decent one. The others seem more like desperation hires who wouldn't had good reasons as to why they weren't selected in previous gens,

>>104319586 (OP)
They only have one shitter member, but that one is super shit

>>104323456
>>104323731
>judging the quantity and not the quality

>>104323841
She averages around 4 streams per fucking month dude, can't judge "quality" when there's barely anything to judge to begin with now gently fuck off with your strawman.

>>104323983
>uses the stream time as base for judging
>"s-she does an average [insert the lowest number possible here], i can't judge the quality!"
>implying this means anything because you can still judge the quality despite how often she does it because an year passed, you have enough data
>"n-now gently fuck off with your strawman!"

>>104323797
I want to Raora to rap more. Her delivery is a little stilted but she writes old-school punchlines. Love it.

>>104324154
>completely ignoring the fact we are talking about streamers
>petty mockery instead of arguments

I accept your concession.

>>104324401
>completely ignoring the fact we are talking about streamers
Yeah and she does that.

>petty mockery instead of arguments
Allright, so if you want argument i can say it doesn't matter if you don't like her because of the number of streams, it's okay, you may not follow her, but saying "brings the all gen down" is wrong. Just because it doesn'st stream so much it doesn't mean she's bad overall.

>>104319586 (OP)
No.