Thread 104382130

Even with BtB, NijiEN somehow has less revenue than last year's Q1. On top of that, the promotion revenue hit the lowest so far, meaning NijiEN was barely promoted with anything in Q1

Investors don't care as they are jacking off to JP's 15 billion yen revenue (and I will admit that was impressive and predictable since the concert tour and NijiFes is in Q1), but this is clear that Anycolor is putting less and less focus on their remaining Western branch

>>104382130 (OP)
Based numberchad
Nijiniggers will seethe and cope lol

>Event (8)
Gets me every time

>>104382153
cope about what? Nijisanji as a whole destroyed it's outlook.

>>104382176
Yeah no shit Sherlock. The "World tour" Japanese concert is in Q1. If they flop the predictions then they have real problems. Also no one tries to deny JP success, we are clowning NijiEN here

>>104382130 (OP)
>Western branch
if anything, the vshoujo implosion showed that western market is negligible, nijijp alone outsell entire holojp+en market at this point

>>104382214
>The "World tour"
it will happen every month until next year

>>104382214
Anon what are you even talking about concerts make up pretty much nothing on this.

>>104382130 (OP)
At this point Anycolor can comfortably axe NijiEN and investors would still celebrate because clearly NijiJP is thriving. We will soon see the final nail in NijiEN coffin soon as recent graduates will certainly affect their revenue even more

>>104382230
Niji's revenue is smaller than Hololive's despite having three times the talents and treating them like less than human :(

>>104382257
Did you forget that they also sell merch along side the concert tickets?

This is the tale of every branch Niji has tried to grow beyond their domestic market. The only difference this time was that Luxiem made them into something financially viable in the eyes of suits before the clique burnt their own castles down to the foundation.
Hiring Elira was an okay decision; turning her into the de facto monarch of their EN branch was not.

>>104382230
>all I have left is to celebrate what a corpo ojisan gets in his bank account
The absolute state

jesus

>>104382331
sorry seapagchud, i am anycolor shareholder

>>104382338
Effectively worthless if you aren’t a suit.

NijiEN comparison to past quarters

>>104382355
holocope

>>104382130 (OP)
Grim

>>104382338
>>104382130 (OP)
Monkeys see numbers go up they buy. But they are buying with the prediction of Anycolor making even more money after this, which is an unreasonable view because they have this Q1 result thanks to the concert spams and Koshien, which was supposed to go to Q4. There aren't that many concerts in Q2 so far so they are potentially over-buying this stocks

kuzubots will carry that company

Oh no no no, drop down under 2k again? Too bad yagoo

>>104382382
This isn’t /biz/, sorry to tell you.

>>104382130 (OP)
The branch's promotion revenue is down by almost two thirds YOY, and is at their lowest all-time level since before the branch's first anniversary
The other categories ain't exactly doing gangbusters either, with only commerce revenue being up YOY (but, like promotion, is down compared to Q4 of FY2022) - and this is also the fifth consecutive quarter with lower overall revenue than FY22 Q4.

As good as BTB has been for the branch, they're only slowing the bleeding, not stopping it. And their honeymoon period is just about over.

1st Quarter Sales
>Cover 9.6 billion yen
>AnyColor 15.7 billion yen
Operating Income
>Cover 970 million yen
>AnyColor 7 billion yen

Heh

>>104382567
Oof, I guess not paying their employees and talents is good now

>>104382567
Cover is a late surger. Their Q1 has always been their "lowest performance" and they go all in on Q3 and Q4 where HoloFes happens. That is their pattern. Anycolor purposefully shift around the events so that all quarters look like they make constant increase in money, and they did it again with NijiFes 2026 by putting it in next year Q1 instead. They made 15 billion yen now, but that does not mean they will magically make 20 billion yen next because it is unrealistic for them to make that much money with even less events in Q2, and I'm not even jinxing

>>104382130 (OP)
To the surprise of nobody at all.

Okay, so I don't watch Niji but I noticed that you guys comparing Holo and Niji too much.

1. Niji may have more streamers but a lot of them don't stream or barely.

2. Treated better is not sure, since I wanted to try out for holo staff and their salary is pretty low, at least next to my country's average salary. I saw people make fun of Niji's salary but they're not very far from Holo/Cover's.

Also, honestly they really lost a lot of money but they won't fully abandon EN side since they are still auditioning for new talents. And even then, if people know what to expect, you still have way higher probability as a vtuber on Niji if you know what to expect feom them. You can still get over 100 viewers which mostly impossible for the average vtuber.

All this stocks story is superficial, you should give it a year or two.

Honestly, Niji should try opening a EU branch instead of spamming EN branch

>that meager commerce forecast upwards revision
episode 192 of anycolor not living up to their best potential. underestimating mechatua and idios agains. Give oriens/dytica their arena live already and lock in that money printer. They're also fucking slow at capitalizing on lunlun for some reason. Berry and nana should have at least one single CD by now.

>>104382130 (OP)
that - 8 never fails to crack me up

>>104382792
>Honestly, Niji should try opening a EU branch instead of spamming EN branch
Whats the difference?

>>104382822
Probably water clearing, since people cannot yell that EN's black sheep are inside

>>104382843
They should just revive NijiIN then

>>104382801
Idios case is really funny since all they need to do is follow fruit zipper's playbook and when they finally did recently we get the most successful female unit niji in years.

>>104382893
That is impossible unless they kick out the first two gens.

>>104382257
>nothing
>literally 2 billion yen for the concert compared to the last Q1 at 212 million yen
Damn you retards can't read

>>104382567
>Holoniggers mogged in any possible metric
Nice

>>104383118
If they were intelligent they wouldn't be nijisisters

>>104383118
>>104383172
Uhm, Hololive also had multiple concerts lol?

>>104383181
Hololive hold no events in Q1 you retard.

>>104383228
>hololive 6th fes. — Color Rise Harmony (Part of SUPER EXPO 2025)

>Solo Performances Around Early 2025

>Flash Solo “Mini Live” by Mori Calliope in LA

Oh yes, they didnt.

>>104383259
Literally none of it is Q1 you total buffoon
Fes and such are Q4
Holy retard

>>104382405
>thanks to the concert spams
The only different one is the world tour. And, as other anon already mentioned, it will continue throughout the year. So if it's really due to concerts, Anycolor will continue raping Cover all year round.
>and Koshien
Kek, retard

>>104382130 (OP)
>nijien is 2% of their total revenue
LMAOOOOOOOOO

>>104383277
Are you stupid? Despite streaming and ticket sales extending beyond March, the live concerts themselves occurred within Q1. The money goes to q1

>>104383277
We just call them Nijiniggers around these parts

>>104383304
If they weren't stupid they wouldn't be nijisisters

>>104383304
Anon it doesn't and Cover mention it in their own reports, Q1 is literally their weakest quarter because of the lack of event
Who do you call stupid you fat landwhale

>>104382655
>paying their employees and talents
That's a nice wording for investing into bots and fake superchatting/membering talents to create a fake increase in sales.

>>104382130 (OP)
So when's Cover going to show EN and JP separately?

>>104383327
Bro that doesn't mean they didnt hold these events in q1. Go make more researches than a simple text.

If you don't even know which hololive events are held how can you call yourself a fan???????

>>104382792
>Honestly, Niji should try opening a EU branch instead of spamming EN branch
Their reputation is already rock bottom with english speaking countries. Why would people even audition?

>>104382257
It all comes down to a group of mid-20's women shitting all their money out on plastic buttons and acrylic stands. The audience has not increased, just the merch sales.

>>104383358
People are stupid, they still would be way more popular in nijisanji than as 1 view indies. Just make sure to read the contract and have a good lawyer

>>104383353
>Bro that doesn't mean they didnt hold these events in q1
Nigger Fes is literally not in Q1, Q1 doesn't meant first quarter of the fucking year dumb retard, Fes and shit happens in Q4 and count toward Q4
Actual mental midget
>>104383334
Ah yes, also fake buying merch and fake concert attendance lmfao

>>104383353
https://cover-corp.com/en/ir/calendar
Check the damn calendar yourself faggot

>>104383370
Yeah that sure worked out well for twisty didn't it?

>>104383403
I knew twisty from before niji and she's not that good of a person lol her teammates dont have any drama

In the end if you dont want to take risks then stay as one view indie and move on.

>>104382792
Treated better comes in more forms than just financial compensation.

> You can still get over 100 viewers which mostly impossible for the average vtuber
The average vtuber has a much better chance of reaching 100 viewers than being hired into a corpo

>>104383439
Lol tell that to 80% of indies.

They like acting like they 'dodged a bullet by not getting in' when it just means they're just not good enough

>>104382338
How much will riku get for his dividend? Will he get another yacht?

>>104383181
>>104383259
>>104383304
>>104383353

>>104383370
>pass niji auditions and get presented with contract
>hire a lawyer
>lawyers makes a bunch of edits and changes
>resubmit the contract to Niji
>Niji says the contract is non-neogitable

Okay, what now? There's probably 100 equally qualified vtubers right behind you who would be willing to sign that contract without looking.

>>104382418
it will be three times after this

>>104383460
ah so that explains why nijien is full of vta dodgers

>>104383456
Because they did?

>>104383462
What it means is, if you are unhappy with the contract then move on. The lawyer works better once you are inside than before

>>104383456
What you just said has no relation to what I just said.

Whether or not people believe in something doesn't change the fact that getting into a corpo is infinitely harder than hitting 100 viewers

>>104383480
Please pardon him, he's special

>>104383474
Its not called dodging a bullet when they never had any % of getting in. Dodging a bullet would be acvepted then refusing

>>104383475
So essentially your comment is worthless because of course the Niji base contract is shit and any lawyer worth their salt would be making changes and Niji, with how we know it's run and how rigid and corporate bootlicker the culture is, would not ever allow for changes.

So why hire a lawyer at all? You either accept the contract or you don't.

>>104382655
Not hiring 500 useless game devs is a good start, yeah.

>>104383387
>fake buying merch
Yes
>fake concert attendance
A 90% of niggers during their EN concerts easily proves that. They probably agreed to participate for food stamps.

>>104383490
Funny that sounds just like what a seething nijinigger would say

>>104383513
I love the smell of nijiseethe in the morning

>>104383514
Funny how you all are obsessed with undermining people instead of stopping losing time and going to support your oshis

>>104382257
holobros... what is this...

>>104383387
>>104383389
>retard hide in shame
Holy fuck you nuke that retard.

>>104383532
Oh I'm sorry enna did I strike too close to home?

>>104383458
At this point she can literally buy the entire Cover, Fagoo and all holowhores for spare change, their life isn't worth much anyways.
Obviously, there is nothing much to do with useless holowhores, so they would probably be used to harvest organs and maybe send your oshi (or parts of her as an onahole) to Aster to rape her as a goodbye gift for him.

>>104383549
Remember 50% of that money goes directly into riku pocket through dividend

>>104383532
The all out war has not necessarily developed to nijiniggers advantage

>>104383594
>she
I didn't know riku is a faggot Hahahahahaha, thank for the inside scoop nijisis.

>>104383594
Fuck you nijiniggers are vile
>>104383549
Nijikeks what is this..

>>104383639
Wtf they're still sinking, even after their boyband debut.

>>104383527
Too bad, the stench of HOLOCOPE mixed with HOLOPROJECTION completely overpowers it.

>>104383596
Damn sister love sucking riku cock huh, i want to say they're doing it for free but they're actually pay him to suck his cock.

>>104383611
>I didn't know riku is a faggot
Only retard would come to this conclusion, sasuga holonigger.
If I was implying a tranny I would say "them", like most holokeks call themselves. I said "she", because Riku, unlike disgusting holowhores, is a cute anime girl.

>>104383596
>>104383775
It's funny because he's getting away with it and you're just here seething

>>104383639
>>104383664
>1 minute apart
Nice samefagging, retard

>>104383728
>>104383781
Oh yeah that's the sweet nijiseethe

the literal single quarter of "event spam" to cover up the selen shock never stops being funny

>>104383800
Uh oh nijinig melty

>>104382130 (OP)
Still doing better than hololive

>>104383847
>selen shock
Speaking of which:
>Anycolor stock is up over 50% since before "Selen shock"
>Cover stock is down over 50% since before "Selen shock"
Looks like she shook the wrong company, kek

>>104383889
Riku is spamming low quality merch which is purchased in numbers by his female audience. This is how he's killing japan's birthrate.
The reason Anycolor stock is up is because of share buybacks, basically raining money on the rich investors. Cover rains money on its talents instead.

>>104383916
So why are multiple holos selling voice porn on DLsite?

>>104383931
BECAUSE ITS SO MUCH FUN JAN GET IT

>>104383889
>piggybacking on pleasing investors with cope maneuvers and the JP branch
>NijiEN* (note: CN) is still a wasteland with ever dwindling ranks
I get that you’re retarded, but still, this is rather extreme in that regard.

Someone explain to me why Q1 2026 ends in August 2025

>>104383916
>stock is up is because of share buybacks
Holonigger conveniently forgets how he was coping that Fagoo had a masterplan to buyback the company during low stock prices. In reality, only Anycolor does that and holonigger copes about it.
>Cover rains money on its talents instead.
Yeah, rains with bots, fake superchats and a generous payment of 260$. But they shouldn't worry too much as nice Cover will provide them with a nice loan.

>>104383931
>1. They are holowhores, so it's their nature
>2. 260$ is not enough to survive, so the only solution aside of Cover's loans, that will bring them into corpo slavery, is making cheap porn.

>>104383931
Riku's company targets women in their mid-20's and gives them fantasy roleplay husbandos to pour money on. This is interrupting any chance this group of women has for married life, for Riku's own profit.

Japan loses 600,000 people every year through low birthrates, and Riku is profiting off this trend.
If a foreign army invaded japan and killed 600,000 children every year, that would be a warcrime. But Riku does it, and that's called "good business".

>>104383916
>Cover rains money on its talents instead.
spends it all on holoearth lol
ftfy

>>104383958
Nice holoseethe mixed with holocope and with a nice sprinkle of goalpost moving.

>>104383992
>>104384021
>260$
Ah I see the ndf bulletin went out

>>104382130 (OP)
I wonder how this would look like if Scarle graduates

>>104384051
>thread starts off by talking about NijiEN
>nijiniggers attempt to deflect with JP stats, stocks, and worthless noombers not linked to NijiEN
At this point, I shouldn’t expect any less than total deflection.

>>104384024
Trying too hard holobrown

>>104384123
Nijiseethe spotted

>cover spends most of their money in a dead game
>anycolor spends pretty much everything they have in stock buybacks
>phase connect will be gone the minute the canadian government decides to crack down on crypto scams

>>104384079
NijiEN is an army that keeps losing its generals. Elira might run the clique but the actual branch is carried by someone with power. Previously that was Pomu, Selen, then later, Rosemi. Now it’s Scarle. When she leaves in the footsteps of her Sempai, some absolute gutterbrain like Millie will try to fill the role and the whole operation will plunge into a disaster of burning trashfire so pungent the smoke will be seen and smelt all across the world

>>104384141
Got at least another 4.5 years for the last one

>>104384141
>cover spends most of their money in a dead game
Stop pushing this retarded lie

>>104384141
>>>>>>most of their money
Proof next century?

>>104384183
He fell for the nijinig psyops please understand

Actually spending millions on a shitty VR game is holobased.
Nijiniggers wouldn’t understand.

>>104384261
THIS
don't forget hiring great managers that will micromanage their talents and drive them to graduate!

>>104384338
And molest them lol

>>104382130 (OP)
They're still around? I thought they shut down or something. Fucking goldfish poop tier.

>>104384338
Yep

>>104384338
It's funny because the actually good managers themselves graduate lol

>>104384411
They practically already did, it's just hanging on for image reasons

>nijiniggers still bringing up Mel’s manager
>they completely ignore Yab’s existence

>>104384420
A-chan was never good, only reddit liked her. Her blatantly stabbing Yagoo in the back after leaving was fucked up.

>>104382130 (OP)
Jesus fucking christ. How could they have performed worse than last year? This is hilarious

>>104384496
Exactly
One bad apple doesn’t stop cover managers from being amazing and competent

>>104382372
-8 gets me every time
Either way I hope this decline continues.
The branch really doesn't deserve to exist anymore.

>>104384074
HOLOSEETHE

>>104384672
NIJICOPE

>>104384527
How dare you. Fuck you. You take that back.

>>104382372
Top kek. Riku-sama, don't look!

>>104382130 (OP)
So Niji mogged Hololive in profits again, I take it?

>>104384577
>one bad apple
Aster
Raito
Some of the KR organs

>>104384577
>One bad apple

>>104384815
Eh, not sure if I'd include Kanae but the rest tracks.

>>104384496
>Mel’s manager
Well, he fucked the entire branch and had to stop only after it became public. So yeah, it's the usual approved practice in Cover that still persists to this day behind closed doors.

>>104384881
You'd love for thst to be true wouldn't you nijinig

>>104383460
>pairs
FWMC living rent free in their heads

>>104384702
HOLOPROJECTION

>>104384785
In everything, actually

>>104384961
Based

>>104384895
You'd love for that to be false wouldn't you, holonig

>>104384831
Why not?

>>104384925
>>104384991
Most intelligent nijinigger

>>104384805
>>104384815
>cover

>>104385028
>nijinig

>>104383460
>by continuously debuting distinctive VTubers
So ACCELERATE for yet another year?

>>104384904
>FWMC
To be fair, Cover attempt at pair vtubers was a spectacular fail. Now they have to bot them profusely so they wouldn't be at low 3-view level. If Anycolor really plans to have a go with the concept, especially for JP, they would do a much better job.

>>104385067
That's good. Allow more people to have their chance to shoot for stardom

>>104385015
>>104384925

>>104385125
That doesn't even roll off the tongue.
God, you're bad at this.

>>104385116
You mean get fucked by nijimales

>>104383639
holy shit lmao nijiEN is even more dead than I thought

>>104385143
>doesn't even roll off the tongue
No wonder. Being as retarded as an average holofaggot comes with speech impairment.

Why can HoloEN start to recover after losing some of their biggest talents within half a year, but nijiEN continues to bleed money, fans, viewers, and vtubers for almost two years straight?

>>104383368
Actually, they're bringing in around 100k fans every quarter, as indicated by new accounts made to purchase merch/event tickets
Cover doesn't disclose this data, probably because it would show they're just milking the same ojisan paypigs dry

>>104385587
Might have something to do with the Black Stream, maybe, possibly.

>>104385587
>Why can HoloEN start to recover
Where's the proof that they've recovered? Cover doesn't release any data about EN and just mixes it up with JP and others.

>>104385660
>this cope again

>>104385587
HoloEN has been in a slump for ages now. Cover just doesn’t admit this.

>>104385686
>cope
There's no proof they're recovering

>>104385660
>Where's the proof that they've recovered? Cover doesn't release any data about EN and just mixes it up with JP and others.
They just had their largest EN concert ever, and if you want to consult reports they said even with tariffs reducing EN's revenue it's started to recover in the same quarter.

>>104385710
>they said
Meaningless. They need to show the actual data.

>>104385728
Send them an email then if you care that much shitposter, what is complaining on /vt/ going to do?

>>104385728
Fuck off retard
Get the data yourself if you care so much

>>104385754
>>104385819
Why are you so dedicated to running damage control about missing EN data while shitting on niji for what their EN data shows?

>>104385878
>missing data
Just go acquire it, then.

>>104385878
Don't get how I'm running damage control, I'm just pointing out all metrics I can use for Holo like the EN concert and statements in their reports.
If you want them to split EN and JP data then you need to ask them, I don't work at Cover retard.

>>104385878
Stop being a whiny fuck
You lost
Get over it

>>104385587
They didn't do a black stream saying that Selen should've killed herself

>>104385909
There are no metrics regarding EN.

>>104385970
Shame she didn’t desu

>>104385987
now she's doing better than nijiEN so this just comes off as jealousy

>>104385987
and this is why nijisanji continues to circle the drain

>>104386198
Because Doki's obese body was too much for the rope?

>>104386229
once more demonstrating my point

>>104385108
So far I count two pairs and a trio that is popular

>nijifans having zero empathy and making fun of s*icide
Classy

>>104386229
Not really. That's because her morbidly obese carcass generates so much gravitational force that the entire nijisanji orbits (circles) around it. And by the drain, anon meant the infinite demand for food wasted on such a useless pile of shit like her.

>>104385587
Hololive didn't try to pull a character assassination at the same time that Saba, Dooby or Nimi went live, worst thing they did was cancelling Mumei's nendo

>>104386331
>s*icide
>In reality: binge ate too much food due to stress and got in the hospital due to stomachache

>>104386331
Women have less than a 1% success rate because they aren't trying to die. Taking it seriously would be an insult to people who actually kill themselves

>>104386474
Or maybe women are just better at not dying
Men are weak and fargile

>>104385660
>Where's the proof that they've recovered?
NijiEN concert after Selen boom. Canceled and only 400 tickets sold.
HoloEN concert after Gura boom. Pretty much sold out and around 5k (x2) tickets sold.

Even without data that's a good way to see the respective power of the two branches.

>>104386451
>due to stomachache
No way a piggy like her is even capable of eating too much, her stomach could fit most of China.

>>104386497
>Pretty much sold out
So it didn't sell out while all the previous ones did.

>>104386497
Also Holo didn't have a mass unsub event

>>104386331
Nijiniggers will defend their master (kurokara), even if it means abandoning everything they previously claimed to care about.

>>104386525
The venue was double last time though.
Another thing we can take is Niji getting a downsized event this year (con concert literally below phase tier) that didn't sell out (only 500 tickets sold HoloEN sold x10 of that at the very least).
I can go on and on if you want but I think you get the point.

>>104386621
>only 500 tickets
Still no proof of that kek

>>104386621
And it would have sold out easily without everyone leaving. The next EN concert, if one evne happens, is getting downsized.

>>104386525
Stop arguing like a kike nijinigger

>>104386712
You loved posting like a kike when holo stock was doing well but now that it isn't you suddenly hate the idea of a concert selling out.

>>104386621
>HoloEN sold x10
90% of audience there were niggers from the street gathered for free food stamps to make it look like a lot of people came. The actual audience that purchased tickets was less than 500 people.

>>104386790
Proof next thread? I do however remember there being zero (0) people at that one convention where NijiEN was supposed to go on stage with ChroNoir being the top billing.

>HoloEn recovered
>the concert showed that!!!
How do we know they wouldn’t have sold that with the other girls still there? How does that show they “recovered”. Reality is merch sale numbers are down down down as are SCs. I guess they are combating that with all the shilling they doing now but doubt that makes the difference up for Gura’s merch sales

>>104386948
It shows it had nowhere near the negative impact Selen boom had on NijiEN. Which is the point getting discussed here.

>>104386971
That's not what's being discusssed. You're just bringing up the comparison to make EN look better when they have in fact not recovered.

>>104386331
Because antis actually have empathy for the livers? Don't you guys love to harass them and now you want to pretend you care about mental health? Funny

>>104386948
The concert proved nothing. HoloEN isn't even profitable, they just ride along JP's success. Otherwise, Yagoo would have been shilling their profits in the reports

>>104382130 (OP)
>Nijisanji continues to decline
>Shows a revenue number higher than the last two quarters

I didn't know number monkeys were this retarded

>>104386843
>t. hdf nigger working overtime for food stamps

>>104386790
>The actual audience that purchased tickets was less than 500 people.
but enough about nijiEN's hopcon FLOP KEK

>>104387017
Numberfags can't read numbers, that's the paradox

>>104382130 (OP)
>thread specifically about nijiEN's continual recline
>"CHECK JP HOLOKEK"
Real nijiSEA hours in here.

>>104387112
>>104386790
>>104383513
ah I see the new bulletin just got posted

>>104387233
>Holonigs losing (as always)
>Suddenly Niji vs Niji
like clockwork

>>104387250
Bulletin? Is that how you communicate among yourself in hdf? Quite cute, actually.

>>104387270
Try to address the OP without crying next time, nijipaggy.

>>104387270
>monkey eating pagpag happily knowing some Jap suits made profit
Absolute retardation

>>104386526
Which is still going, Finana just dropped back to 483k

>>104382130 (OP)
grim

>>104386331
It's interesting that nijiEN's fans left en masse after the black screen stream, but nijiJP has had numerous yabs on that level but JP nijiniggers will continue to defend them to the death.
They don't call chinks bugmen for nothing I suppose, those nijiniggers have no moral code.

>>104382372
That promotion is now the lowest number in 3 years really does tell us that Riku has completely given up on NijiEN. That management doesn't believe in either growth or recovery.

>>104383847
>the literal single quarter of "event spam" to cover up the selen shock never stops being funny
What is sad is those 3D events must have lost them money and AnyColor will never do it again. They only did them briefly for damage control.

>>104385587
>Why can HoloEN start to recover after losing some of their biggest talents within half a year, but nijiEN continues to bleed money, fans, viewers, and vtubers for almost two years straight?
Cover spending money on HoloEN doesn't necessarily mean they have recovered after the graduation wave. They don't release most of the numbers for the foreign Hololive branches and they have never released any numbers for Holostars. Yagoo does have the quality of not caring too much about short term results but the negative side of that is he will burn a mountain of money on HoloEarth.

>>104384141
>most of their money
Nowhere near that lol

>>104386985
That is what's being discussed and the comparison was there in the first post. I'm sorry Selen killed every single Niji talent growth potential while Gura didn't but that's reality.

>>104387324
Nice projection, holoseanig

>>104388097
The comparison is false because it's based on the premise that holoEN is recovering.

>>104388178
>the comparison is false because I don't like it
Selen graduiates from NijiEN. NijiEN explodes, they lose all the revenue from active talents, from subs to SC to merch sales.
Gura graduates from HoloEN. Nothing like that happens.
There's the comparison

>>104388396
It was a termination not a graduation retarded

>>104388396
>because I don't like it
Why are you making shit up? I just explained to you why it's false.

>>104388414
potato potato

>>104388423
You literally didn't.

>>104388097
>ONE niji leaves due to coworker and corporate harassment, nijiEN permanently destroyed because of how poorly it was handled
>nijiniggers spend the entire time after this wishing death and destruction on Holo instead of getting their livers to accept responsibility and demand change from their corpo
>to this day they blame every single niji that's left for why their corpo's reputation is in the gutter instead of the actions of the people in their corpo
meanwhile
>multiple Holos leave HoloEN, leads to a few months of uncertainty
>fans demand answers and are able to engage in as open a dialogue as possible with talents and staff
>none of the members or notable staff that left have anything actually bad to say about Hololive
>ONE Nimi tweet destroys every single rrat that was built up for months immediately
>the only thing that actually affected Hololive were trump tariffs
Really shows the difference in fanbases.

>>104388456
>ONE
Ah I see you're already memoryholing pomu, twisty, Vivi and kunai

>>104388178
HoloEN is still gaining subs and memberships

So this is why the /#/monkeys are making so many threads about nijisanji's finances again KEK

>>104388483
pomu leaving didn't cause the collapse of nijiEN though, all those others left after selen was terminated

>>104388450
I literally did. HoloEN isn't recovering so the comparison can't be made.

>>104388487
Just like they were before but at a lower rate. They're not recovering.

>>104388595
>>104388611
>I-IT DOESN'T COUNT
NIJICOPE

>>104388487
>lose 8 million subs worth of talents
>It's ok, because ERB gained 1k

>>104388631
>I-IT DOESN'T COUNT
The only person saying that is you coping with holoEN's decline.

>>104383931
Link?

>>104384527
qrd?

>>104384815
What did Kanae do?

>>104385710
>They just had their largest EN concert ever
You mean the one that didn't sell out? Yeah that's pretty grim.

>>104388595
>>104388611
>>104388636
>>104388652
Niji Losers kek

>>104388836
>posting a photo from a concert that failed to sell out as a "flex"

>>104388856
>IT FAILED BECAUSE I SAID SO

>>104388825
>>104388836
More than 100x what nijiEN gets here and it was over 2x the capacity of the last one+sold more than 10k tickets so I think they're doing fine.

>Nimi 1500
>Niji Troons 200
Kek

>>104388898
Cope.

>>104388905
>m-m-m-more people went!!
Still didn't sell out.

>>104388836
pretending like Bae and ERB can replace the loss of Gura, Ame, Fauna and Mumei is more insulting to what Hololive used to be than anything I said you corpo worshipping fuck

>>104386991
HoloEN was very profitable in the beginning due to low expenditure and Gura being a phenomenon, so Cover lumped revenue from all branches together because letting news of the main branch becoming #2 for even for a single quarter spread would cause chaos. The reason for doing so now has changed since EN's situation has changed so much.

>>104388985
This. EN was the only reason they were able to start doing holofes and a bunch of other events yearly. JP were nothing and the JP suits as well as the girls themselves had their heads so far up their own asses that they couldn't admit that to investors.

>>104389095
>EN was the only reason they were able to start doing holofes and a bunch of other events yearly
Are you retarded? EN wasn't even involved in holofes until third fes

>>104389134
The revenue they brought in was. HoloEN money funded almost everything JP got for years,.

>>104389134
That's one reason why EN made so much money. COVID restrictions meant that Cover didn't have to spend a cent on travel costs or any 3D/concert work for the first year or so.

>>104388951
Phase is next brown SEA tranny

>>104389240
*for EN

>>104389240
Expenses have nothing to do with EN making money. Flying EN to Japan isn't a deduction on how much they made.

>>104388926
nijiseethe

>>104382130 (OP)
>(8)

>>104388936
They had more attendance and made more money than last time, you're just trying desperately to find whatever cope to make it look bad because it disproves your narrative.

>>104388595
>>104388951
>NijiEN lost Selen
>every single liver lost subs can't even hold a concert in the states
>HoloEN lost Gura
>can't see anything changing at all because the only thing being removed is Gura earnings
I'm sorry facts don't care about your feelings

>>104390026
I counted every single holonigger in the audience and it is less than even 2k. They reclined hard since their last concert.

How to kill a corpo vtuber branch in one easy step

Please tell me these nijifags are just larping, nobody is unironically defending this trash fire of a company

>>104390597
>>HoloEN lost Gura
>>can't see anything changing at all because the only thing being removed is Gura earnings
Huh? What did you expect to happen in this situation? Bots suddenly gaining conscience and starting to unsubscribe? I mean, Cover had some big upgrades for their botting servers, but no that big for them to become agi.

>>104391831
you didn't though and you're wrong, sorry

>>104391897
You have one trying to project niji's bots onto Holo right below you so I don't think they're larping

>>104391911
holy copium

>>104391915
>no u
I accept your concession

>>104391948
>HOLOSEETHE

>>104391986
If you want to post your dot headcounts I'll concede but otherwise you're seething+coping right now.
Your confession=denied.

Reminder NijiEN got away with sweeping the Aster shitshow under the rug because everybody was too busy watching Vshojo implode

>>104392043
Awww, little holonigglet still seeting about Cover being absolutely raped by Anycolor and the absolute recline of WhoroEN. You can pretend to be blind all you want and not being able to count, you already lost

>>104382792
Because that worked out so well for Brave Group…

>>104392185
>still seeting
Your typos are coming out like usual when you start getting really upset, nijiSEAtard.
>still no proof after all his shitposting
Bummer, better luck next thread.

>>104384993
He was an innocent bystander in that yab
Honestly, shilling do-it-yourself Jager Bombs to high schoolers during a sponsored stream is far worse than roleplaying overly aggressive flirting

>>104382372
Honestly it looks less like NijiEN has been dying over the past year in terms of revenue and more like it stagnated after a large chunk of the fans left during seren shoku

>>104393173
nijiEN was at one point 25% of niji's revenue. Now they're 4%.
nijiJP literally makes nijiEN's entire revenue each quarter in half a week.
If nijiEN was terminated it wouldn't matter. None of their JP fans give a single shit about nijiEN and they clearly have no paying fans anymore so the few remaining fans it pisses off wouldn't matter.

>>104384904
Last time they had a pair, instead of a solo debut like Salome, or a wave of 3 or more livers, one member of the pair was fired in under a week for trying to go full Cosby
And the other member of that pair eventually graduated, resulting in the pair wave be the first wave to go fully defunct for lack of members

>>104394063
Not even EN has a defunct wave yet, although obsydia technically is because Petra doesn't stream

>>104393377
Hell, there are JP livers other than Kanae and Kuzuha who individually bring in more revenue than the entirety of the EN branch combined. Scarle is the top earner in the EN branch, but she wouldn't even be top 100 company-wide.

>>104394234
And Scarle is only successful because she and her community basically exist in their own bubble outside of nijisanji

>>104382372
>puts Dookieturd's departure in the wrong quarter so it'll look like she mattered
lmao
remove the event revenue and it's just a continuation of their gradual decline

>>104394183
They have 3 waves on the razor's edge of officially going defunct:
>Obsydia, which as you correctly said is already effectively defunct
>TTT, which is down to just Claude, and which was the first EN wave to be reduced to its last member
>and Denauth, because Ryoma and Klara were not happy with what the company did to Twisty; and are probably not in any particular hurry to extend their contracts, especially since the company will almost certainly make publicly claiming to hate Twisty a condition of extending their contracts

>>104394415
>gradual
anon I don't think you know what gradual means

Dookibird showed Japan that the west itself is negligible and Nippon doesn't need filthy gaijin to prop up vtubing.

>>104385067
yes? that’s been their good ol’ MO. rapid fire and hope for something that sticks which has worked for them.

>>104394415
That's the right quarter, keep coping niJEET.

>>104382176
>as a whole
No one's denying that, sister. NijiEN by itself, however...

>>104395113
Ironically accelerating might be the only thing they can do to recuperate metrics for EN. Anyone that existed during the Selen incident had their channel completely eviscerated from the algorithm for the foreseeable future due to the subscription exodus, so just ending support for all of the remaining golden 20 members nobody likes while letting the branch earners like Scarle and Aia continue doing their own thing, might actually get traction back on the EN branch and let new livers flourish.

>>104395437
Yes but the Nijisanji name is still tainted in the west and the Aster shitshow proves they haven't changed on bit

>>104395520
and? the show must continue.

>>104388985
>Retard thinks HoloEN ever made more money than JP
And other hilarious copes holobronies actually think

>>104394415
FY2024 Q4 covers the months of February, March, and April 2024.
The black screen stream happened midway through February 2024.

>>104387784
>That promotion is now the lowest number in 3 years really does tell us that Riku has completely given up on NijiEN. That management doesn't believe in either growth or recovery
I love the use of the word "recovery" in this context. It is the financial/revenue equivalent of firefighters and paramedics at the scene of a major accident recovering the bodies of the victims (as opposed to rescuing the survivors)
Also worth noting is that at the shareholders meeting at the end of July, the company told the shareholders that the EN branch is in revenue recovery mode

>>104395270
EN by alone is making 4 million USD a quarter I don't think they are closing down anytime soon.

>>104395520
Unfortunately, the internet does forget things quite quickly. If you completely replace the cast pre-Krisis, then change up the branch name to something fancy, they'd probably successfully be able to start over since as long as the name isn't exactly "Anycolor" or "Nijisanji" people likely wouldn't remember it.

>>104399927
How much was ID/KR making when they went under?
Pretty sure that EN is still way above them, but what's like the point of no return?

>>104400424
none of that was ever public, but I don't think they were even making a faction of what EN makes or made as even has made over 100 million.

>>104400424
>How much was ID/KR making when they went under?
Enough that they weren't merged into the main branch for lack of revenue generation. KR was closed due to gross mismanagement, and ID was closed at the same time so that the company could protect the reputation of the KR branch managers (and by extension, the company's own reputation) by claiming that the closure was for something other than gross mismanagement - closing both ID and KR to "save money" would earn the company more brownie points with the shareholders than closing just KR because the managers (and some of the KR livers) were cunts.
>Pretty sure that EN is still way above them, but what's like the point of no return?
EN is in the red again, earning under a billion yen for the fifth quarter in a row. And nothing short of a complete and utter collapse of the yen will cause the branch to ever again make more than a billion yen per quarter.
In purely financial terms, they crossed the point of no return last year, around the time when they cancelled what would have been Chronoir's first concert in the West due to lack of ticket sales. The only reason the EN branch still exists is so that the company can tell the investors that the EN branch still exists, and the company would rather lose money than lose face; but as soon as the company (thinks they) would lose more face with the investors by keeping the branch open than by closing it, they'll close it.

Easiest way for them to extinguish the money furnace without losing face with the investors would be to say that they're doing it to increase dividends. That would probably allow them to close EN without dropping to the lower circuit breaker.

>>104391897
No nijiniggers are actually like that

>>104393377
>nijiEN was at one point 25% of niji's revenue. Now they're 4%.
SELEN SHOCKED

>>104382130 (OP)
Ah so that’s why today the catalog is so shitty. NijiEN fans proving once again they are troons, loud and poor and in need of an ethnic cleansing.

>>104393377
I see the problem. Riku loves 2% and will not merge them until they get that.

>>104393377
>NijiEN still is profitable
>HoloEN isn't

Numbers don't lie, Holobrony

>>104395270
>Holobronies try to sink Riku by going after Niji
>Nijisanji consistently makes double the amount Hololive does now
>Goalpost shift to just targeting NijiEN instead of Riku apparently
>Even that's failing too since NijiEN started to incline to their late 2023/early 2024 numbers

When will holokeks stop losing?

>>104405853
>>Even that's failing too since NijiEN started to incline to their late 2023/early 2024 numbers
Are we looking at a different chart? NijiEN pulled in just about half of those numbers.

>>104382372
ok im dumb
how the fuck they can predict 2026 revenue
are they from future?

>>104405961
Learn to read charts. Q1 last year was when NijiEN still had Selen. They're making a similar amount now that they did compared to last year and are inclining from their last two quarters.

This is just a typical Niji win

>>104406247
Alright, you've lost me.
Did you mean Q4 2022?
Because them being below that is horrific.

Left after the Black Screen Stream same as everyone else with a modicum of taste. Getting mad at Nijisanji for stock gains at this point is like getting mad at Marvel movies for having a profitable weekend. It's 2025, if you're stupid enough to be in a theater then it's your own fault for having a bad time. Stay home where you have Internet and can watch something good

>>104406433
How many times do I have to explain this to retards? Q1 2024 started in late 2023. They made a similar amount this quarter than that one and are inclining from the last two quarters. Trying to distract with 2022 numbers is retarded so you dumbasses are trying to argue Selen killed the branch

>>104406247
>Q1 last year was when NijiEN still had Selen
No, Selen Shock happened February 2024
FY2024 Q4 covers February, March, and April 2024

>>104406680
wait, you're not trying to compare this quarter to the two directly before it instead of YoY, right?

>>104407123
So FYQ1 2025 is may June July 2024 ? Explain it better because it doesn't makes sense.

>>104407334
japan's fiscal years are fucking insane. Look at the little calendar. They start their years in May for whatever stupid reason.

>>104406027
Businesses number their fiscal years according to when the year /ends/, not when it starts.
So for Anycolor here, FY2026 Q1 covers May/June/July 2025

>>104407123
But wouldn't it make more sense that FYQ4 2024 is for 2025 ? Because overture was an event in February 2025.

>>104407470
Overture happened February 2024
According to Anycolor's own calendar (which I put in the top-right) of the graph, that is part of Q4 FY2025
You may be wondering why Event is 0 for FY2025 Q4. That's because Overture Daytime, despite it being performed by NijiEN, is counted by Anycolor as a NijiJP event, and therefore is part of NijiJP's earnings table (not pictured here).

>>104392185
What's more pathetic is nijinigger would rather pay riku 45% dividends directly into his pocket just for the privilage to suck his dick here. And this is from the corpo trying to kill selen of all thing.

>>104407601
I wonder which fandom has a whole statue of their CEO, hummmm complicated.

>>104407571
Apologies, Overture happened February 2025, which yes would be Q4 FY2025.
Yes it can be a bit confusing, see I even messed up myself.

>>104407571
So they're doing a little bit of accounting fuckery to make JP look a little better at the expense of EN.

>>104407707
And holo still doesn't release the en files kek

>>104407707
If you want to put it that way, sure.
See, isn't Anycolor terrible? Maybe Nijisisters will stop defending Anycolor on everything when the company themselves are doing things to make NijiEN look bad.

>>104407334
Fiscal years are named by the year they end in, not the year they start
The current quarter is Q2 2026 for instance

>>104406433
NTA
Q4 2022 was Feb-Aril 2022, i.e. the quarter when Noctyx debuted, and the last quarter before the branch's first anniversary. The branch's total revenue for that quarter was reported as 807 MJPY (million yen)
The next 8 quarters, quarterly revenue was above 1000 MJPY; but that eighth quarter was Q4 of 2024 - the quarter in which Selen was terminated. Revenue for that quarter would have fallen below 1000 MJPY if not for the emergency un-mothballing of AR Live, but it still would have been above Q4 of 2022 (916 +-1 MJPY vs 807 MJPY)
All five quarters since then (May 2024 - July 2025), revenue was below that of Q4 2022 - which, as you said, is horrific. The "good" news for EN management and Anycolor's bean counters is that the branch's revenue is unlikely to drop by any statistically significant amount due to the existence of a natural floor of fan support (i.e. Scarle's whales, Aia's whales, and the fujos who buy LuxNocBTB merch)

...the bad news for EN management and Anycolor's bean counters is that the branch's revenue is unlikely to raise by any statistically significant amount, due to WHY fan support has dropped to the natural floor, and has been reduced to those whales and fujos. The fan support has dropped to its nadir, it has bottomed out, and recovery is impossible as long as management refuses to even acknowledge the existence of the underlying issues.