Thread 104387539

Investors are selling their stocks and expected to go even lower in the following days. Is this the end of Hololive and their reign of cancer to the Vtuber world?

>>104387539 (OP)
Equity markets are fucking stupid
Definancialize the economy and shoot everyone on Wall Street and whatever the Japanese equivalent is in the head

>nijinigger can’t answer for NijiEN’s cratering noombers
>deflects to stocks again
This isn’t /biz/, OP

Stock posters should be shot on sight. Doesn’t matter what company, it’s all fucking stupid

>>104387598
>>104387641
coping hard holodrones. your oshi company will 100% file for bankruptcy in 3 months

>>104387703
In those three months, 5000 more organs will graduate.

>>104387577
Having everything be private would fuck over normal people even more. You're retarded.

>>104387774
Sounds like we should abolish private ownership of the means of production then

>>104387887
Yes, the state is known for doing things so well after all. I want Trump to run my entire life.

HoloEarth failed, for cover that's a bad thing, for hololive fans, that's a good thing, they need to refocus on their successful business and stop with the tech company delusions

>>104387932
Everyone talks about HoloEarth, but what about HoloPlus? that was a huge flop

>>104387958
Why even bring up a tiny app an intern could whip up in a month with next to no resources?

>>104387981
Because it flopping is likely why Nodoka is leaving. That was her project and she likely resigned out of pressure from it failing.

>>104387932
They will never stop. They will just chase something else and waste money on that.

>>104387958
Really? I love holoplus for the schedule part. Every company should have that kind of app

>>104388013
Having merch reminders is a good idea with how much stuff is constantly opening and ending purchase periods (if I was buying merch anymore this year from meme tariffs and semitic shipping company practices)

>>104387539 (OP)
Good, burn it all.
Also bbno$ - Ironmouse song is fire

>>104387598
>W-what about nijien!!
Mind broken. As long as the main company sails, NijiEN will continue. Can't say the same about Holo.

The only time a company needs to give a single flying fuck about its stock price is if they want to raise additional investor money.
Cover is not trying to raise addtiional investor money. So they don't need to give a shit.

>>104388001
Please explain how a tiny app that literally never mattered could not be considered a "flop". It cost nothing to develop and it's not selling anything.

>>104387539 (OP)
>>104388167
This. It's hilarious how 99.99% of users on this board are financially illiterate and don't know that stock price has 0 effect on the company if they're not raising money or issuing new stock.
Cover is entirely self sufficient using cardgame sales ONLY. The stock could drop to 0 and nothing would happen. Low stock price might even be a good thing for them because they might want to buyback the stock.

>>104388167
sure buddy, not unlikely invests will btfo making the company implode

>>104388207
>It cost nothing to develop
Nta and I have no skin in the game but that actually would have cost them a lot. Yeah it's something easy to make but companies will still spend boatloads on that kind of shit. You don't just go hey I want this let's develop it you have multiple meetings and testing groups and stakeholder identification and meetings with them and plan a development timeline and make a test matrix and etc etc etc
There's a lot more that goes into it than just coding it.

>>104388135
>what is NijiKR and ID

>>104388375
Not that anon but you're fucking humiliating yourself to people who know how financial markets and stocks work. Clown.

>>104387958
because they pissed away $100m on holoearth
HoloPlus feels like it was made by someone from Fiverr (They probably spent millions on it anyway but still only a tiny fraction of the HoloEarth loss)

>>104388379
>that actually would have cost them a lot
Ok show me how much it cost them and why it being a "flop" matters.

>>104387539 (OP)
They selling their stocks because they learned Cover isn't a black company

>>104388371
The retards remaining on this board live in a country where it's too costly to invest in stocks and treat it like another horse race. The investors can shit and cry all they want but Cover is the one with their money that turned into a 3D studio.

>>104387539 (OP)
Hoping the stocks stay low until I get a higher paying job the coming year so I can buy 10% of the shares and go have an offpako with my oshi

>>104387598
>>104387641
>>104388167
>>104388371
>>104388466
Funny how these type of comments show up in holo threads but never in the niji threads

>>104388606
Anycolor is paying out dividends and doing buybacks which indicates they want to maintain a high stock price.
As for why? I don't fucking know. Maybe they want to raise money in the future. I'm only familiar with cover's earnings reports and know that they're printing money right now because of cardboard addicts.

>>104388874
>why is anycolor paying so much in dividends and keeping the stock price high

>armchair investors itt
kek

>>104389286
Remember, 44% of DIVIDENDS funded from nijisister purchases goes directly into riku pocket, the more he buyback niji stocks, the richer he get. Honestly, he should just ripoff those nijisister with 60% dividends payment.

>>104389524
Were you really suggesting they follow Vshojo’s lead? Giving talents that much freedom only lets them walk away.

>>104388402
>100m
How in the ever-loving fuck do you piss away 100 mil on a unity store asset flip? A bunch of frogs made E33 for probably less than half of that, and holoearth looks like a vibecode indie project...

>>104390032
Why should we give a shit about what the suits want? If the talents walk away, the viewers can follow them.

>>104390109
You’re being foolish for business. Why did talents join if they didn’t bring success? Are you suggesting giving them rewards without any benefit to the company?

>>104390042
all they cared about was working on the store and monetization aspects
everything else was an afterthought
it's extremely common, it's how things went with all those online shooters that were shut down in a week too

>>104390042
Because it's a directionless mess that has been in development hell for 4 years now that has massively grown in scope halfway through development, what was originally supposed to be just a Genshit clone featuring the girls has now turned into a persistent MMO metaverse where they are hoping to host VR concerts and the sort

>>104391257
They already hosted a concert. How many years before the next concert?

>>104387539 (OP)
only 1 stock thread? what you nijinigger sisters doing?

>>104390188
This is an actual disgusting post

>>104387539 (OP)
bump

>>104388371
A company would need to be royally fucked to be in a state that the value of owning the entirety of its common stock is zero, and benefits of all future dividends or buybacks that entitles the holder. At that point the public is essentially saying the company is a worthwhile as a Zimbabwean dollar money printer.

>>104390188
>Are you suggesting giving them rewards without any benefit to the company?
Cover would be a flop without Hololive.
To think how much of my oshi's money was used to fund their overbloated game development team, instead of boosting back to the talents.
Glad that my oshi left.

>>104387539 (OP)
Previously, Anycolor and Cover's stock performance were intertwined, but this year they've diverged. Anycolor is rising while Cover declines.
>Cover's strength was global expansion, where Anycolor failed.
Last year, anons were speculating about which country they would expand next, but that's faded.
>Cover boasted high talent retention.
This year, however, they faced a wave of graduations, including top stars. They acknowledged the "tactical shark" as a major threat—even without streaming, her IP broke sales records. And always had the potential to return as before.
They worry less about that now after seeing HoloEN -50% YoY. Plus, Cover didn't just lose talents, but is now competing against them.
>Holoearth is a disappointment
Continual delays. Graduations directly affect the number of fans who would play it. No longer looking like a game changer, but more like a money sink.

Cover's key advantages have evaporated. Anycolor, meanwhile, is holding strong, happy to rival Cover in Japan.

>>104387703
You been saying this every since Hololive got big

Hololive is too big to fail at this point just like Nijisanji desu
Japanese companies extremely rarely go completely bankrupt, restructuring is much more common

>>104387598
>NijiEN's cratering numbers
>NijiEN is actually inclining

Numberapes can't read numbers now?

>>104387539 (OP)
>x is dying
>1% drop

>>104398435
Expected from your Players FC, so who wouldn’t be glad the top earners left? Saboteurs and their accomplices share the blame, yet they excuse being flops.

There you go, defending the talents while glorifying them unfairly for greed and unfaithfulness.

You claim to prioritize the talents over the company, yet you expect them to reward those who don’t deserve it. That’s on you for giving money to the company; the talents aren’t obligated to give attention to donors.

Why are they dumping so much money into this HoloEarth stuff?

>>104399703
Proof doko?

>>104389286
Funny that people like to say this when it was investors were bitch about not having dividends after they explained that riku would gain the most they still wanted it anyways.

>>104388606
I say the same thing in every stock thread I see. It's all fucking stupid

>>104399412
Oh it's this illiterate retard again.

>1d
>1%
I can't even use this to buy the dip. Fuck you op.

>>104387539 (OP)
time to buy the dip