Thread 104521697

Well well well...something just never change!

>>104521697 (OP)
>no holo health plan
will she be ok?

>>104521697 (OP)
>Graduated to go indie
>"I'm still not happy :( "

>>104521697 (OP)
It begins. Honeymoon phase is over.

>>104521697 (OP)
Looks like the honeymoon period is over. I'll admit it lasted longer than I anticipated.

>>104521769
why do phasefags have to insert themselves into everything?

It's over

>>104521792
Its also holochads laughing at the traitor failing yet again. Once they lose the seal of approval, they go to shit.

why are vtubers incapable of having normal work schedules?

>>104521697 (OP)
Man <undisclosed health issue> sucks, I hope she gets better soon (no pressure tho, self-care above everything)!!!

>>104521836
glowing

>>104521867
because that's the reason why they're not doing a real job

They just can't and that's actually a society and work system problem, but i don't want to get into /pol/

>>104521867
the human body wasn't made to feign excitement for 3 hours 4 days a week

>>104521769
>phase is over
so true

>>104521926
The human body wasn't made to work 8 hours a day 5 days a week either.
Adapt or die.

>>104521995
>adapt to a system made by human themselves and not by nature

>>104521867
Which Holo was it again that started bragging about how much she enjoyed having no schedule? Fauna?

>>104521697 (OP)
Is it 4viewitis?

>>104521697 (OP)
You love to see it

Now it feels like she's back alright!

>>104521697 (OP)
Gura had many issues with Cover management but she did make friends in Hololive and missing the Myth anniversary is likely weighing on her a lot this week. Ame was also missing from Myth's 5th anniversary but she will most likely return before the end of the year while Gura is now in the history books. Saba is an indie vtuber with complete freedom but that did come with a high cost and this was always going to be a tough week for her.

>>104521730
No one expected Saba to be happy during the Myth anniversary week. This was going to be a sad week and even the Myth anniversary was heavy on the nostalgia.

>>104521697 (OP)
>sorry for not updating you sooner.
Where was that apology when she ghosted her fanbase for years in Hololive?

>>104522174
Cringe

>>104522174
>Ame was also missing from Myth's 5th anniversary but she will most likely return before the end of the year

>>104522043
>implying there is a difference
we are animals, everything we do, even those acts that society considers most degenerate and repugnant, is natural behavior. it's a meme distinction made by people that want to push an agenda - as if something became valid or good just because you attributed it the condition of "natural"

>>104522698
She is doing a collab with Remia later this week

>>104521697 (OP)
women

I wonder who could be behind this thread

>>104521697 (OP)
stop being an asshole OP.
Saba is soon going experience a lot of painful health and mental issues due to the magical fairy that makes vtubers sick during holydays days.

>something just never change
saar...

>something just never change
good luck learning english, SEAfriend

>>104521926
Streamers don't have to be extra-high-energy all the time. Kronii for example is pretty low-energy streamer and she's doing fine.

>>104521995
What was human body made for then?

>>104522878
that made me laugh

>>104521867
There were no schedules before Ame

>>104522255
>Where was that apology when she ghosted her fanbase for years in Hololive?
HoloEN had years of behind the scenes fights with management in 2022, 2023, and 2024 so what good would it have done Gura to apologize when she didn't have any idea when it might end? Looking back I think 2023 was the last year that Yagoo could have settled the contract fights in the EN branch in a way that might have kept Gura. Still even if the graduation has been certain for a long time the Myth anniversary is a clear reminder of what that means so of course they are sad.

>>104522698
>Chronicles of hololive EN: THE NEXUS GATE -Act I: The Portal Awakens
That is a really curious theme for Cover to use for an EN store and there is more going on with that than merch shilling. Cover is a business they aren't rolling out an elaborate mystery/time theme unless there is some major event related to it.

>>104521697 (OP)
Male streamers
>will stream non-stop, 8 hours a day every day of the week
>will have some kind of extra podcast or show on top of regular streaming
>will actually be interesting to listen to

Female vtubers
>inconsistent schedule
>will stream 3 days out of the week at best
>will stop streaming and take months long breaks if they bump their pinky toe
>take away the anime girl model and you lose 70% of the reason why you're watching in the first place

I'm not sure what you expected. If this upsets or disappoints you, you really only have yourself to blame. Fish will stream when fish will. That's just how it is.

>>104523066
kronii does a character, being low energy is part of that. in fact she's one of the few holos that never goes out of character

>>104522174
>Gura had many issues with Cover management
Like what, they wanted her to stream once every 3 months? Stop sticking up for a lazy sack of shit.
The amount of bullshit that Cover put up with to try to keep her happy is unreal, she'd have been fired at any actual job.

>>104521697 (OP)
>streamed for the entirety of august
>panko was on hiatus for the entirety of august
>panko comes back
>saba disappears

>>104521697 (OP)
her health issues are that I got her knocked up again

>>104522174
>she did make friends in Hololive and missing the Myth anniversary is likely weighing on her a lot this week.
These bitches are fucking grown ass adults. At a certain point you have to expect more from these people. This is like if I took a 2 week vacation off work every time I suddenly remember one of my ex gfs.

>>104523092
Playing video games for 8 hours a day apparently

>>104521697 (OP)
holy ESL

>>104521697 (OP)
>Take the Indie pill
Many such cases

>>104522731
My point is that you cannot say "just adapt or die lol" to a system made by humans. It's not something that you "have to adapt or die", you can fight to change this system or trying to exploit it.

>>104521697 (OP)
>All four members that left were lazy and spoiled
>All of them were close friends with Saba

>>104524084
>My point is that you cannot say "just adapt or die lol" to a system made by humans.
You can. Because it's really a wildlife you need to adapt to — it's human society.

>>104524252
>it's NOT really a wildlife
is what was going to say

>>104521697 (OP)
She's been trying to have a child since before she left hololive. Whatever is wrong with her body, it wasn't because of corpo stress.

>>104523169
so you are saying it's ok for someone to get shot in the crossfire just because fuck you

>>104521905
"It's society's fault that I can't set an alarm and go to work on time!!!"

>>104524084
>you can fight to change this system or trying to exploit it
so waste you time or adapt

Are monkeys really having a seething meltdown because she's feeling unwell and told people about it?
Didn't a bunch of Phase whores go on an unexplained one month hiatus recently to participate in some swinger cuck parties or something? Gee I sure wonder who could be behind this thread...

>>104522174
really wish I could achieve this level of delusion

>>104521697 (OP)
>this is drama
How about another Nimi seethe thread to add to the thousands you already made?

I refuse to believe vtubers somehow are just vastly more vulnerable to disease than everyone else. They're lying. These constant "Sowy I'm sicc" posts are cover for them getting bored/burnt out but not wanting to say so because it might cause their audience to expect less content from them and, therefore, not pay them as much attention meaning they bleed viewership as attention shifts elsewhere.

>>104524774
So true, pagpag.

>>104523092
gooning, faking adhd to get an amphetamines prescription, and setting up scams where you tell old people they should invest all their savings into your AI-first blockchain B2B SaaS startup

>>104524252
>>104524412
I explained why you can't. There is more you can do in human society, not just "adapt and die", you can "fight and exploit" too.

>>104524774
>I refuse to believe vtubers somehow are just vastly more vulnerable to disease than everyone else
It might be a thing actually.
Streamers and Vtubers tends to have sedentary and lazy life, where you don't even go out so often or care too much to cook an healthy meal or doing excercizes.
Also it's a better job opportunity to those who can get easily sick by genetics, it would be hard to keep a normal job or even getting hired with those problems.

>>104521697 (OP)
I knew this would happen, it was just a matter of when.
A week break here, then you'll see a month. I'm sorry to any neo-chumbies who fell for the lovebomb.
If she was still as sharp and funny as she was 2-3 years ago, it might be tolerable.

>>104524774
People get sick all the time. The difference is that the average person can't afford to call sick.

>>104524934
The fact that system created by humans doesn't mean that's it's something you can just go and change willy-nilly.
Even if you want to fight against it you still need to adapt first. Otherwise you won't survive long enough to make any impact.

>>104523092
Walking for 8 hours straight in the sun to tire out a large herbivore animal to poke it to death and gorge ourselves on its meat until the next season

>>104525108
I can't even survive a walk to the grocery store.

>>104525206
>t. landwhale Amerilard who has to walk for an hour through his cul de sac hellscape to get to the nearest Dollar General
What a sad existence

>>104525308
we won WW1 and WW2.
you're welcome eurocuck.

>>104525206
if you wouldn't be able to work and survive without the computer, you're a cyborg. which is way cooler than an endurance hunter. most chuubas do be cyborgs

>>104522174
>>104523169
>no one told outfitschizo to kill himself yet and people are genuinely replying to him
/vt/ is cooked

>>104521697 (OP)
*u**y hort

>>104525334
That was a century ago, Mutt. You didn't do that. The people who did that are all dead. You get 0 credit.

>>104522878
Sometimes the shilling is comically transparent.

>>104521905
>society's fault
Marx much?

>>104525517
nta but no anon you're right
society is perfect :D

>>104525549
you are goddamn right

>>104521730
I think she really thought it was hololive and not her. No introspection and now she realizes that vtubing is the exact same slog as it was in hololive only now she's got not of the connections. She's going to live to be a very bitter person I'd bet.

>>104521769
Yup. Was going to happen eventually. Turns out it really was her and her shitty attitude, not hololive.

>>104525089
Technically no, you can still fight without "adapting to the society", like pillaging. It's harsh but you might still do it, or exploiting the system somehow. Those are rules you can go over and facing "consequences", which is something different from "adapting". You can decide to play with the rules are still there, but there are other choice human can make. We don't have the means to change the "rules of nature", but just adapt to it and trying to survive with all we can do.

>>104526510
Now you're just splitting hairs.

lol so many delusional drones ITT

>>104522878
Is he wrong?

Obsessing over a schizo post from 4 months ago. That takes dedication.

>>104521697 (OP)
6 month break LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>104522174
Ame isn't returning to hololive as long as they have perms autism.

So why didn't more people accept the affiliate deal?

>>104523459
and this is entirely why I didn't care about streaming before vtubers, what the fuck are you doing with your life that lets you watch some guy online 8 hours a day every day? A few hours every week with months of breaks is more in tune with other forms of entertainment like episodic TV or sports

>>104523092
Eating sleeping and having sex to pass along genetic legacy. Somewhere along the way people decided they wanted to have money.

>>104528294
This is how I can tell you don't play video games.
Male streamers were expected to be the best of their respective games. Queue in ranked regularly to keep their top ranks and provide advice for normies to do better in multiplayer matches. They were like athletes in a way.
This was all before IRL variety streams and e-whores took over twitch.

>>104521697 (OP)
>Saba takes short breaks because of anxiety
is better than
>Gura takes multiple-month breaks because of anxiety compounded by management

>>104522174
>Ame was also missing from Myth's 5th anniversary but she will most likely return before the end of the year
Doobmelia should just come back and act like nothing happened. But I don't like that spectre hanging over the three Mythketeers and preventing them from growing into something on their own.

>>104528726
amelia was the worst hire they ever made. she's caused alot of drama and took their best talent to a dark place.

>>104524656
Retard, it's about setting a standard that not everyone will be able to achieve without burning themselves, expecting flexibilty but only in a way where you can work more. And this is just for being able to live a normal life, i don't even talk about luxury or owning an house or car.

>>104521926
KEKAROO

>>104521697 (OP)
>it's because of retarded nip bureaucracy!
no, she's just lazy

what she does > what she says

>>104524734
she's been feeling unwell for the past 4 years and not once has she specified why she's supposedly feeling unwell, other than sometimes saying that she's burnt out. but how can she be burnt out when she spends more time not doing anything than actually working?

>>104521697 (OP)
>"health issues"

>>104521697 (OP)
>already burned out from streaming
lol. she really thought it'd be different if she went indie.

>>104521697 (OP)
Panic attack induced by naplings blackmailing dooby to follow Nimi again.

>>104521697 (OP)
Didn’t Chumkek tell me it was all management fault? Was it all just their oshi’s skill issue all along?

>>104526313
Nice projection

>>104525574
baaa baaa

If Nimi can thrive without Hololive so can she

>>104521697 (OP)
Without protection from corpo, her number would plumment when she returns, unless she brings a song or two

>>104526313
she's going to be bitter because her numbers are going down despite doing exactly the same shtick bitch thought she doesn't need holo, that all this people belong to her and she can keep their attention by simply existing and doing the most low-effort slop possible forever

>>104533937
>they are

>>104522174
Does Gura really cared about Myth or hololive as a whole in her last 2 years? Felt like she was super checked out constantly ghosting everyone including her friends sometimes for a whole fucking month I doubt she watched anything or thought about it much at all she was done with this part of her life a long time ago and really with Vtubing shit as a whole she never cared about muh freedom as much as senzawa fags claimed, she didn't want to be edgy online it's all about making money, monetizing her fanbase as much as possible and there is nothing genuine about it.

>>104523537
she had some issues with 3D live and shit but so did every member at some point I doubt it was a reason why she fucked off

>>104526805
No but the post after, shilling fishman's coffee is just the cherry on top.

>>104521697 (OP)
The more things change the more they stay the same desu.

Who milks their "Health issues" excuse more? Big Fish or Ironlung?

>>104528457
>Male streamers were expected to be the best of their respective games
Nah, they were just expected to play the games and shoot the shit. Most of them just happened to be good at that.
Female streamers can barely do that. Tune into any DMC stream with those and you'll only see Stinger spam 99% of the time. Meanwhile, even more retarded male streamers understand how the game works.

>>104539587
Saba only use it to be lazy with no consequences. Mouse used it to build her entire career.

>>104539587
mouse and it's not even close, her whole thing is grifting about so called health issues

>>104525397
Anon you keep calling me outfitschizo but Hololive recently had a graduation wave of 7 talents with many of them leaving because of disagreements with management. HoloEN getting into huge fights over model redesigns in 2022 would explain a lot and don't forget that Cover did give Vesper a full 2.0 redesign. They could have easily done the same thing with Ina, Sana, and Kronii.

>>104538643
>Does Gura really cared about Myth or hololive as a whole in her last 2 years?
Ash Again made it clear that Myth was important to Gura and she chose to add them as key figures of inspiration. She went out of her way to include Myth in her last original song.

>>104538643
>monetizing her fanbase as much as possible and there is nothing genuine about it.
That is absurd and no matter how well Saba does her revenue is only going to be a fraction of what Gura was earning in Hololive. All the talents would quit to be indie vtubers if they could earn more by leaving especially when they would have full ownership of their copyrights/trademarks. Ina and Kronii are currently stuck with stripper outfits, which are unusually degrading even for Hololive, so they have definitely considered the economics of leaving to be indie vtubers.

>>104521697 (OP)
"Health issues" is usually period cramps.

>>104521697 (OP)
I have never seen people more sickly than vtubers.

>>104539881
This always pisses me off so I'm gonna sperg a bit.
You got girls like the vspoen ones who are allegedly good at their games, but then they.. stay completely silent while playing.
As a viewer, every stream is the goddamn same. They quietly shoot their gun and nothing happens other than sometimes they win and sometimes they lose.

Meanwhile, you have tourists crowding into Doki's marvel rivals streams even if she's just ranked grinding because she's always talking, laughing, having a good time, or having unique, interesting interactions with other players/streamers. The amount of greys I see in her rivals stream saying, "I've never seen someone have this much fun playing ranked" is testament to how awful most streamers end up being, regardless of skill level.

I feel like the special streamers are the ones who can make you want to stay and watch them even if the game itself was removed from the equation. Most of, if not all of the holos have this. Saba has it in spades, and it's the glaring difference between her and someone like Remia.

She will make Saba AI to stream in her behalf soon.

>Doki and Mint all have low 4views.
>Saba and Dooby disappear eventually.
>Nimi is recovering from the cull. Almost reach 5 digit streaming horrorslop.
Only Nimi remains as a pillar of Indieavenger fighting evil corpos.

>>104540961
>Ash Again made it clear that Myth was important to Gura and she chose to add them as key figures of inspiration. She went out of her way to include Myth in her last original song.
commissions something, see guys she does care its in here

>>104526313
She's not lying. It's clearly a mental health issue.

it's actually amazing how hololive always wins in the end

>>104530503
Maybe the health reasons she has talked about for YEARS were real and she really cannot stream that much? And that's the reason she has never had a 9-5 job?

>>104544156
lol lmao, you're the same ilk who believes Mori and Gura fought for "LE SOUL OF LE BRANCH" when they only drifted because Gura never got angry at a minority of the fans that doxxed their location, they then decided to not get close on-stream because these mentally-ill chumbuds would try and involve family members.

>>104544284
Mori should've used common sense. Freedom to be dumb does not imply freedom from consequences.
>chumbuds
You need to provide me with real proof for this claim.

>>104544405
>victim-blaming retard.
Sure anon, let's all blame OJ's wife for his actions.

>>104521867
women with no responsibilities or held accountable to anyone

>>104524774
poor sleep and diet absolutely makes you more vulnerable

>>104525517
but he was lowkey based tho

>>104524734
The point of the thread is that she's falling back into her old habit of taking the break first, telling people about it after. Eventually she's just gonna stop giving any justifications at all.

>>104546499
>old habit
How about you blow your brain, stupid monkey?

>>104521697 (OP)
I thought this was her announcing she was steaming at the same time as the chess match

>>104521697 (OP)
tummy hort, my beloved...

So is this woman still number one in the industry or without holo botting and money laundering she is suddenly a nobody with questionable talent like I always suspected she was?

all women are normies and thus incompatible at a fundamental level with civilization of any kind as it was created by the autist-schizio-narcissist triad with no intention of ever being adapted for the worker-cattle. it exists solely so that autists may indulge in their special interest, so the schizo can prozelytize whatever delusion they have, and so the narcissist can punish anyone that doesn't treat them with the respect they think they deserve. of course in recent times the normies have gotten more power and are removing the triad's power which is why everything is going to shit

>>104546889
>half the population who are required to birth new humans are incompatible with civilization

>>104546991
Most men are also incompatible with civilization

>>104528588
>short
lol

>>104528588
come back next month when she's still missing and say this.
gura has always been a lazy fuck.

>>104542429
While being a good STREAMER is necessary, you also need a bare minimum of skill to not be utterly infuriating to watch.
Gura's DMC streams did not reach it for me. A lot of women playing MGR have same problem though I distinctly recall Selen actually being decent at it once she sat down to learn, bothering to use moves other than mashing for once (like getting a lot of use out of the sweep kick and Monsoon's weapon).

>>104521697 (OP)
is vtuber fans that bad these girls have to go away for weeks?

>>104547521
mgr is slop

>>104521697 (OP)
I want to lick her loli pussy

>>104525397
tfw >>104522174 is actually outfitschizo
my knees anon...

>>104522174
Anon, she sang about burning it to the ground lol what are you smoking

>>104524774
It's almost like the complete lack of accountability is a slippery slope for those who have absolutely no personal drive

Grifting vtuber
>haha tommy hort throat hort no stream tnx for monnies ;-P
Real streamer
>my nose is clogged, shit is escaping my ass and my throat makes me sound like toad, but i wanna stream, let's fucking go

>>104523092
BBC from what I understand

What happened now, Phasecucks are desperate today

>>104521697 (OP)
Two and a half months is pretty decent compared to my expectations for her before debut.

>>104553475
Agreed, she lasted much longer than most of us thought she would given her behavior while in Hololive. How long before a series of "blah blah thanks for waiting for me..."?

Just admit it.
Girls being Vtubers is equivalent of men’s catching crabs in Atlantic Ocean.
It’s just hard job.

>>104523489
yeah, I play the same character too
it's called getting baked

>>104523489
never seen devout collabs huh

>>104522878
This carbuncle is still around? Do you think he is the one behind Clio's CCV botting?

>>104521730
She is happy

lazy boneitis strike again

>>104521697 (OP)
Did someone say something that made her uncomfortable that she's using the 'health concern' excuse?

>>104521697 (OP)
Sickly lolis are the cornerstone of vtubing.
Complaining about their existence just outs you as a tourist.

>>104521722
I belieb

>>104556638
Couldn't be me...could it?

>>104521926
Clearly you've never worked retail

>>104556209
So happy she fell ill? Huh.