Thread 104537173

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>>104537173 (OP)
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

EN5?

Rissa and FWMC mog Shiori and Biboo so bad in this

THE EN5 ISN'T REAL

>>104537437
>20k raided in
>11k watching
GRIM

does anyone really fall for this?

SIEG

>>104537448
after the myth concert
trust the plan
hologods are in control

>>104537497
What a slut

Mococo is the best VA.

>>104537504
based i belieb

If EN5 lore is related to AdventxJustice then we are only going to get EN5 once this ends next year lmao

You know what bros? I don't even want EN5 anymore, this fanfic comic dub is so amazing I am completely satisfied. To another year long gap of nothing!

>>104537491
or this?

You can tell which girls do voice acting and which dont lmao

>>104537491
She has a confirmed boyfriend, I guess only phasepags do.

You can tell Advent have a lot more practice doing voice overs than justice because jesus christ justice, besides ERB, sound rigid as fuck

>>104537497
ALL RISE FOR THE FUBUKINGDOM

Holo anime soon

You winning /#/?

fucking cringe. I wish extreme eternal pain on that omega tranny where ever xhe is. JP lucky to not have to deal with this retarded lore shit.

>chess game into a voiced comic
who asked for this?

/#/ too slow
/vt/ is dead

/promise/ will never admit it, but that was far superior to the 2022 Halloween thing that Fauna wrote, especially the VA.

ADVENTRIX STATUS?

ERB schedules weekly gangbangs with Advent members

damn, we have a lot of totally real holofans getting angry at this huh?

>>104537582
IN THE MUD
IN THE MUD
ADVENT'S IN THE MUD

>>104537497
I can't believe they were referencing this...

>>104537568
Yeah I asked for it

>>104537568
I did. The comic was Kino as fuck

the rat was waiting for advent vs justice to end, such a good senpai

>>104537582
lost, yet again
Justchads >>>

>>104537590
so die hard she barely knows anything about them.

>>104537568
Me

Good VAs:
ERB (pro)
FWMC (100% into their kayfabe)

>>104537578
Bae's eyeball schizophrenia will always be memorable to me. The rest weren't that great.

This really wasn't worth it

>>104537568
magnus carlsen

>>104537602
It's a near identical reaction to HoloID's concert selling out

>GRRRRR I'M A TOTALLY REAL HOLOFAN AND I'M REALLY ANGRY AT HOLOLIVE DOING WELL, IT SHOULD BE [Insert group here] DOING WELL INSTEAD

>>104537628
>mindbroken
nice

>>104537578
Those were pretty fun though

>>104537645
Rissa was good too, all the others sucked

>>104537529
some of you children are too young to remember this classic motion comic:
https://www.webtoons.com/en/thriller/chiller/bongcheon-dong-ghost-horang/viewer?title_no=536&episode_no=22

>>104537645
nerissa is literally a professional voice actress...

>>104537628
You don't need to know people to be in a gangbang

I still think a Myth and Council one shoulda been made

Saba karaoke>full advent chess match + important announcement on the main channel
Holy kek

>>104537645
Wissa is great at VA

>>104537621
comic was nice but only 3 of them enhanced it with the voice over, could have just released it normally like holowitches

https://youtu.be/2rWmCir5a58
https://youtu.be/2rWmCir5a58
https://youtu.be/2rWmCir5a58
Kobo sung this

>>104537645
Shiori was fine except when she had to act surprised.

>>104537645
All of Advent was good VAs actually.
Justice, though...

That was pretty cool, If I didnt have to be reminded every week that shiori and erb are homocollabers, I would appreciate it more. I dont hate it anyway.

>>104537720
She should have went AIEEEEEEEEE like the faggots on this website do

If we are being real here I am pretty sure Raora might even be better than Ollie

Of course CC is the best chess player

Nice EN5 retards

>>104537729
Biboo was bad too, shes still very stilted

>>104537701
I wish that was true, all the gangbangs are invite only

>>104537720
shiori already did better than most of "pro" VA

>>104537757
CC said she lost badly to Ollie though.

That wasn't bad but not worth all this to hype it up imo

it's 1-1 now in the advent vs justice thing
EN5 won't be released until they've done 5 streams

*SEPTEMBER 14TH FINAL EN TALLY*
>15,757: Ina'nis (Hololive English)
>9,813: Baelz (Hololive English)
>9,569: Shiori (Hololive English)
>9,554: Elizabeth (Hololive English)
>7,013: Nimi (Indie)
>6,713: Kiara (Hololive English)

The celebrations for Hololive English's 5th anniversary continue. Gold for Ina (and Hololive Myth)'s anniversary collab with announcement, Silver for Bae's playthrough of Yakuza 5, and a very entertaining Bronze race that ended up being won by Shiori with her Chess Lesson with Advent.

>RANKING PER POINTS (Gold = 3, Silver = 2, Bronze = 1)
Bijou = 26p
Calliope = 10p
Saba = 9p
Kronii, Ina'nis, Baelz = 5p
IRyS, Clio = 3p
FUWAMOCO, Nimi, Wilson, Elizabeth, Cecilia, Kiara, Shiori = 2p
Gigi, Clio, Aia = 1p

>>104537784
Calm down Flayon

>>104537613
>>104537621
>>104537638
>>104537666
4 asking for this vs about a thousand not asking for this

>all these Holo Vs Holo and EN5 seethe

Real natural, guys

>>104537800
biboo too

>>104537773
Nah Biboo was fine, it didn't sound like she was reading from a script like most of Justice was. But they'll learn too eventually, just give them time. Maybe another year

>>104537773
kill yourself brazilian schizo

I was feeling bad for this Zeal guy from NijiEN for getting only 1K on his half anniversary after 30m in, then I found out it was after the engine already started kicking in...

>>104537801
are those "thousand not asking for this" in the room with you?

>>104537811
is that
a
fucking
CLANKER

>2020 - Myth
>2021 - Council
>2022 -
>2023 - Advent
>2024 - Justice
>2025 -

Are we back to the GRIM era?
Homos have been doomposting but what if Cover and their homoloving managers announce a new homoEN gen after their "concert"?

>>104537791
2-1

>>104537672
i would be if the useless whore would stream more!

EN Golds won by the HoloEN channel in the last two months: 5

EN Golds won by Saba in the last two months: 4

>>104537757
Raora is terrible under pressure, she would totally fold in a 1 on 1 match

>>104537714
this is basically among us lmao

>>104537811
its all very organic seethe from totally real holofans that HATED this with her guts tho i would admit that the "mystery" around it wasnt necesary

>>104537757
Surely not? I remember Ollie was coached by some professional players several sessions. If CC is the better player, Ollie must've been retarded (I saw CC's chess stream earlier and she was worse than myself when I was an elementary school kid).

>>104537795
SEP 2025 EN GOLD
9/1 - Bijou - Hollow Knight: 8,800
9/2 - Bijou - Hollow Knight: 9,855
9/3 - Saba - Waterpark Simulator: 10,718
9/4 - Bijou - Handcam Model Building: 12,949
9/5 - Bijou - Hollow Knight Silksong: 10,634
9/6 - Baelz - Promise Offcollab: 11,005
9/7 - Bijou - Hollow Knight Silksong: 13,840
9/8 - IRyS - Crime Scene Cleaner: 16,407
9/9 - Clio - Europa Universalis 4: 10,612
9/10 - Calliope - Umamusume: 10,204
9/11 - Kronii - Archived Karaoke: 15,346
9/12 - Bijou - Hollow Knight Silksong: 16,249
9/13 - Calliope - 5th Anniversary: 28,748
9/14 - Ina'nis - Anniversary Collab: 15,757

PER COMPANY
12x: Hololive English
1x: Indie
1x: Phase Connect

PER STREAMER
6x: Bijou
2x: Calliope
1x: Saba, Ina'nis, Kronii, Baelz, IRyS, Clio

>>104537578
Well the VA in holoween was worse on average since some in promyth are horrible at it, though Gura was surprisingly good at it, made me wonder if she was aiming for a VA career before joining holo

>>104537714
oh that a anime? I don't know why I thought it was a game at one point.

>>104537845
I only remember the valentines stream what was the other?

>>104537811
>The full power of advent+ justice on the main channel came nowhere close to saba's karaoke or IM's anniversary
Holy grim

>>104537860
h-h-hot

>>104537843
I don't even know how many male vtubers have graduated recently for that to even happen the only one I know of is a massive Niji shill

>>104537560
um sister its been ages since omega was axed you are a bit behind on years and brains and the lore thing is for merch drop which will happen later. There is nothing more to it.

based chammers

>>104537902
It's the anime adaptation of the game
Anya played it even

>>104537895
but CC can code, ya know

>IM
ennacuck zzz

>>104537821
shes still definitely a tier below Shiori, whos wayyy below rissa and fwmc

>>104537920
what language

>>104537898
SEP 2025 EN SILVER
9/1 - Saba - Hatsune Miku Project DIVA: 8,397
9/2 - Nimi - Hollow Knight: 5,765
9/3 - Bijou - Hollow Knight: 8,724
9/4 - Calliope - Dead Take: 11,876
9/5 - Wilson - Birthday Stream: 6,802
9/6 - Saba - Waterpark Simulator: 8,389
9/7 - Elizabeth - Karaoke: 8,773
9/8 - Bijou - Hollow Knight Silksong: 12,411
9/9 - Saba - Facade: 8,674
9/10 - Kronii - Ringfit Adventure: 9,277
9/11 - Bijou - Karaoke: 8,183
9/12 - FUWAMOCO - Japan Stigmatized Property: 12,492
9/13 - Ina'nis - 5th Anniversary: 20,670
9/14 - Baelz - Yakuza 5: 9,813

PER COMPANY
9x: Hololive English
4x: Indie
1x: Nijisanji English

PER STREAMER
3x: Saba, Bijou
1x: FUWAMOCO, Baelz, Kronii, Nimi, Calliope, Wilson, Elizabeth, Ina'nis

>>104537915
Omega is Max, retard

>>104537582
You expect any good response here for this?

>>104537874
I do hate chess and shit on management for picking it
never once seethed about en5 or act like a jealous child doing holo vs holo

>All the fags replying to me last thread
Sorry for being happy with our current talents. I forgot we need to expand infinitely, hiring every single indie, debuting solo holosingers every month and poaching talents left and right,, so you attention deficit zoomers have something to slob over for next 2 weeks before going back to same old shit

>>104537773
Shut up bitch, Biboo was so sweet and fluffy in how she talked

>>104537903
Party Animals

>>104537941
german

>>104537942
SEP 2025 EN BRONZE
9/1 - Cecilia - Thank Goodness You're Here: 5,972
9/2 - N/A (Only two talents qualified for the Tally this day)
9/3 - Shiori - Super Mario Sunshine: 5,983
9/4 - Kiara - Hollow Knight: 9,747
9/5 - Clio - Total War Shogun 2: 6,438
9/6 - Calliope - Karaoke and Announcement: 6,936
9/7 - Gigi - Hollow Knight Silksong: 6,629
9/8 - Cecilia - The Quarry: 8,633
9/9 - Bijou - Hollow Knight Silksong: 8,498
9/10 - Aia - Elden Scrolls IV Oblivion Remastered: 7,507
9/11 - Bijou - The Headliners: 8,076
9/12 - Calliope - Elden Ring: 8,767
9/13 - Kiara - 5th Anniversary: 13,274
9/14 - Shiori - Chess Practice: 9,569

PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive English
1x: N/A
1x: Phase Connect
1x: Nijisanji English

PER STREAMER
2x: Cecilia, Shiori, Bijou, Calliope, Kiara
1x: Clio, Gigi, Aia

>>104537915
the tranny basically forced it onto EN (Myth and Council) and now the branch thinks every gen has to have some kind of retarded lore

>>104537714
I don't really hear any vocals other than a dude's in whatever song that is

>>104537933
That's your personal preference, which I disagree with, but that's still better than sounding like they read from a script like most of justice

>>104537903
The players themselves admitted 1-1 idk what the fuck the adventfag or justslut is meaning to say with 2-1

>>104537843
Not really. Grim era caused not only by the lack of new members, but the lack of streams in general. Currently, most of the time HoloEN members still fill the days just fine - we usually have at least 2-3 streams outside rare exceptions during concerts. Most members are relatively active (except ERB and perhaps Nerissa) Back then there were days (in plural) with literally 0 stream
EN5 would be nice but I'm not really that desperate for them yet.

>>104537953
>t.

Mint is for...

You cant say anything about Biboo because pebbles inmediatly start crying

>>104537998
>>104537964

>>104537933
You are really searching, she was better than all of Justice besides erb, and no one from Advent was that much better than her.

>>104538008
do not recommend this channel
block user
hide post

>>104537895
She lost to Ollie. She traded wins with Gigi during their practice according to her profile. But I think CC RR and GG has punched above their weight class, hence Advent getting decimated. Honestly if I were Advent I would be slightlyyyy salty considering CCGG were try harding while the other 3 Advent members barely give a fuck, but it is what it is.

>>104538013
Stop being sensitive bitch, damn

>>104537757
Raora was trying to lose the game for Justice by getting them to attack the bishop that was protected by both the rook and queen of Advent. Thank god Gigi just decided to ignore her.

>>104537964
that wasn't on the official channel and they were constantly switching up teams so you couldn't even call it a real vs

>>104537843
>Cover and their homoloving managers announce a new homoEN gen after their "concert"?
NTA but no the ROI on homo's is bad for something like cover now. They have to reboot the entire branch if they wish to venture into male vtuber thingy now

>>104538033
>no one from Advent was that much better than her
you have to be deaf anon

>>104537933
you lost, schizo

Holostars haven't had new gen for longer than holopro girls and I don't see them complaining

I THINK IF WE GIVE ENOUGH SUPPORT TO JUSTICE THEY WILL BE THE FACE OF HOLOEN, WHO WITH ME?

>>104538008
cucks

>>104537582
3-1 for advent so far out of all advent vs justice collabs

>>104538070
just brown, you can usually tell

>>104537943
Retard how is he max when omega was a known tranny you fag slicker

>>104538050
>Thank god Gigi just decided to ignore her.
Thank God cc ignored gg trying to get their pawn killed by the backline rook. Literally almost lost the gamr

>>104538070
I think you just have some schizo shit against her, because no one from Advent were some amazing talents that are blowing her out of the water.

>>104537941
i think python and javascript. her websites are full of easter eggs but otomos.me expired recently so i can't link her code. not sure if she made anything else recently
https://web.archive.org/web/20240913193230/https://otomos.me/static/css/style.css

>>104538050
CC was getting REAL frustrated with Raora for a while there

>>104538070
seethe biboo schizo

>>104537910
AI does a very good porn of this

>>104538079
Hard to do with 3/3 but maybe they can pull it off

>>104538005
>there were empty days up until last week
Active my ass

>>104538055
I still count that as an Advent win, though.

>9 hololive members 23k
>one silly tapir almost 10k
One Nimi > 4 holoEN members

>>104538079
Scratch ERB and you've got a deal. Otherwise no.

>>104537984
Nerissa and ERB like the lore wstuff so its not omega thing. Basically both of them are theater fags

>>104538013
aww poor brazilian got his feelings hurt after shitposting all day

So what happened to the great "Grandmaster Biboo"? Why didn't Advent try to go on the attack even once?

>lost the gamr
the ESL brigade

Stop your Holoseethe and gather for Nephilim cutie

https://www.youtube.com/live/WHcApxr5heQ

>>104537917
no she should shut the fuck up
her whole schtick was to be randumb chaotic weirdo until recently doing jebait graduation is easily what people think she can pull
I literally do not want to hear anything about being "weird" from chama of all people

>>104538118
I should learn how to code. Just for fun though because programming jobs are competitive as fuck now

https://youtube.com/shorts/EWJnl8DpZJY
https://youtube.com/shorts/EWJnl8DpZJY
https://youtube.com/shorts/EWJnl8DpZJY

>Biboo is better VA than all of EN
>Biboo is better singer than all of the holos
End of the story.

>>104538135
No one is going to check her graph ennacuck. You wasted your bot this time

>>104538158
>Schizo having to pivot shitposts after getting blown out already
Bitch move

>>104538128
>>104538137
>mindbroken
nice

>>104537953
you are unironically stupid.

>>104538187
pebbles unironically think like this

>>104538079
mori and ina already have years above everyone else

Why doesn't Cover understand we don't want lore, 3d lives, concerts, all this cringe shit that distracts from daily streams.
They just need to rush out new gens until they can get cover the until 24 hour day with streams. To make it faster, just hire the applicants with the highest amount of subscribers. Why are they over thinking things

>>104538181
https://youtube.com/shorts/JKgQh_PYfMs

Mori.... Is cute?

https://youtu.be/RQHTD81PdQI
I miss coco

>>104537541
Yeah me

>>104538013
Awwww you will get them next time lil favella shitter

>>104538193
that's not a botted graph lol

>>104538205
>we

>>104538205
Nijisanji is two blocks down

>>104538005
It wasn't just the lack of streams
It was also the homo ACCELERATE instead of EN3 and the very real fear the Cover and Omega were trying to nijify EN in response to luxiem

>>104538079
I can't stomach erb in any capacity

pls consider
learn to drop hate
invest in a smile
love will come
maybe you will like it

>>104538170
>typo is in the same sense as being an ESL now
Man, why are thirdies so obsessed with grammar?

EN5 doko?

>>104538205
>we

>>104538205
But we do tho?

>>104537491
The other day Dizzy was talking about whay kind if men the other girls might go for and chat had to remind her that Lia was supposedly gay

>>104538205
not sure if ironic post or weak falseflag attempt

>>104538235
hope you're ready for ARMIS REVENGE :)

>>104538249
Next week

>>104538199
you replied because you know its true. and you will continue to repeat the same two words like a faggot forever kek

>>104537843
It's grim because the numbers they're pulling lately are bad, even with the cull. EN5 would last around 2 weeks before the viewers start falling again. JP was barely affected btw.

>>104538005
this, EN5 will fill the rest of the slots
and management has to step up their projects because its looking GRIM

>>104537953
Only nijisisters believe in accelerating. I'm happy with what we have right now as well

If we get Raora into a real competitive game we might actually get to see her cry on stream

>>104538187
>>104538203
kek this is pathetic now. How long are you going to try make biboo some villian fag

>>104538258
Yes I'm sure the girl who flirted with a guy on stream at one point is gay

Fucking cover I swear.
I want serious IDOL gen for EN. How the fuck did you give up on idol stuff for EN before you even tried it??? So fucking stupid.
Cute voices, cute models, decent singing ability from all of them, fun gimmicks and characters. Is it really that hard??

>>104538249
At the Holostar's concert, trust me.

>>104538132
>Rare exceptions during concerts
And no, there were no day without any stream yet in September, much less "up until last week". The worst day we had was 3rd Sep (JST) and there were still 3 streams. Every other days had 5+

>fun holoEN collab ends
>phasepags and nijinigs immediately come out extremely jealous and shitpost like crazy

>>104538205
>"we don't want lore"
>go to multiple social media
>find people who don't like lore
>check profile
>nijifags and ligtroons

>>104538290
>doubling down on his mindbreak
damn

>>104538329
Apparently yes

>>104538309
I've seen her cry on stream already

>>104538205
reminder half of the holofans here are fucking around with en5 bullshit your bait was already pre-baited idiot

>>104538343
EN5 doko?

>>104538329
But most idols can't sing for shit

>>104538205
>lore
based
>3d lives
based
>concerts
cringe

>>104537173 (OP)
Recent Clip Numbers
>>104481351
>>104481363
>>104481389

>>104538343
The usual

>>104538366
are the holofans you mentioned here with us?

>>104538205
So true sister we don't want lore we want our vtubers to be twitch thots with anime avatars

You guys to go to sleep there's a collab tomorrow morning
たぶん・・・
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw3j4J0k_IA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw3j4J0k_IA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw3j4J0k_IA

>>104537173 (OP)
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>66,612: Miko (Hololive)
>53,389: Marine (Hololive)
>44,636: Subaru (Hololive)
>35,767: Pekora (Hololive)
>28,604: Korone (Hololive)
>18,941: Ars (Nijisanji)
>18,759: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,885: AZKi (Hololive)
>16,393: Lamy (Hololive)
>16,136: Marin (Nijisanji)
>15,995: Kokage (VSPO)
>15,836: Ina (Hololive)
>15,460: Vivi (Hololive)
>14,210: Met (VSPO)
>13,194: Mio (Hololive)
>12,974: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,824: Watame (Hololive)
>12,670: Botan (Hololive)
>12,412: Noel (Hololive)
>12,309: Toko (Nijisanji)
>10,461: Su (Hololive)

So just like that?
advent loses?

Need more biboo. A solo stream please

>no Advent and Justice streams for 2 days
>for this announcement
it's weird.

>>104538384
they indeed go up

I miss Nimi

>>104538351
they are not trying hard enough

Holo Lore Drop
>Cute anicomi about relationships between gen
Niji Lore Drop
>Some member tried to kill themselves
Vshojo Lore Drop
>We scammed the entirety of our roster off their payments for a year
Indie Lore Drop
>I'm actually married and all your merch purchases is used to fund my husband's vices
Phase Lore Drop
>Actually I want my fans to get shot like the faggot that just got shot on live TV

Which way Western man?

>>104537173 (OP)
100k by holos in 2025

1. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01)
2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01)
3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01)
4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01)
5. Ceres Fauna graduation (Fauna/03-01)
6. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01)
7. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01)
8. 4th gen 3Dlive (hololive/05-01)
9. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01)
10. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01)
11. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01)
12. New years games festival (Towa/13-01)
13. HoloX anniversary 3DLive (hololive/19-01)
14. Sakamata Chloe graduation 3DLive (Chloe/26-01)
15. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02)
16. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03)
17. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03)
18. Sakura Miko Bday 3DLive (Miko/05-03)
19. Murasaki Shion graduation announcement (Shion/06-03)
20. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03)
21. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03)
22. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03)
23. Nanashi Mumei graduation announcement (Mumei/28-03)
24. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03)
25. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04)
26. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04)
27. Gawr Gura graduation announcement (Gura/16-04)
28. Otonose Kanade Bday 3D Live (Kanade/20-04)
29. Amane Kanata Bday 3D Live (Kanata/22-04)
30. Murasaki Shion Graduation 3D Live (Shion/26-04)
31. Nanashi Mumei Graduation (Mumei/28-04)
32. Gawr Gura Graduation (Gura/01-05)
33. Which hololive member loves Subaru the most? (Marine/01-05)
34. Spring Hololive Member Counseling Session(Subaru/06-05)
35. Animal Tower Battle tournament (Lui/18-05)
36. Miko Switch 2 lottery (Miko/03-06)
37. Tsunomaki Watame Bday 3DLive (Watame/06-06)
38. Todoroki Hajime Bday 3DLive (Hajime/07-06)
39. Takane Lui Bday 3DLive (Lui/11-06)
40. Sakura Miko Switch 2 lottery 4 (Miko/17-06)
41. Kazama Iroha Bday 3DLive (Iroha/18-06)
42. Sakura Miko Switch 2 GET announcement (Miko/22-06)
43. AZKi Bday 3DLive (AZKi/01-07)
44. Oozora Subaru Bday event (Subaru/02-07)
45. Pekomama holomem totsumatchi (Pekora/16-07)
46. Houshou Marine Bday 3DLive (Marine/30-07)
47. Guess which holomem the present is from? (Miko/03-08)
48. Best loser Smash tournament (Miko/06-08)
49. Usada Pekora 6th Anniversary 3D Live (Pekora/31-08)
50. Nakiri Ayame 7th Anniversary 3D Live (Ayame/03-09)
51. Shishiro Botan Bday 3DLive (Botan/08-09)

# of 100k streams last year: 58

>I want new hololive gen right now
>But all indie girls are bitches and whores
You can't even name a single girl you would want in EN5, and yet demand a whole ass gen

>>104538379
well that's why I said decent instead of good.

>>104538460
Why isn't Nimi's lore drop on this list?

>>104538329
This guy was hypnotized by the "success" of the first NijiEN male. We're in 2025 and still didn't receive the memo about how they collapsed.

>you asked for EN5? here's another homo gen instead!
chances of this happening after their MMD concert?

>>104538466
Notice how Suisei is in none of these? She's lost the hololive audience.

I thought GG would be better at chess

>>104538482
Anon it's on indie lore drop....

>>104537927
>this upset advent and justice lost

>>104538475
all the best girls in the previous 2 gens where random low 3views, theres probably some chuuba out there you never heard of whos pretty good

>>104538493
>not even an actual concert
There you have your answer.

>>104538475
good thing cover is getting thousand of applications not only from active indie vtubers

>>104538496
Suisei doesn't want the holo audience, she wants the normie audience now.

>>104538500
Yeah I got gaslit into thinking gigi was smart, too. It's okay

>>104538493
like 10%

>>104538500
she did ok, she was better than anyone except for CC who was clearly way better than all of them combined, advent was a non-starter

>>104538475
The most popular of Advent and Justice no one did name. Retarded precedent to go by.

>>104538493
more than you'd think

>>104538329
Find five girls that are:
>want to be chuubas, and specifically holo chuubas
>decent or salvageable singers and/or dancers with cute voices
>also not too boring outside of idol activities and can operate well under Cover's restrictions and perms hell
>not too whorish and don't lust after homos
>pass the vibe check
>live near each other so can easily collab and record or whatever together without needing to go to JP (or just all live in JP)
That's a really really tough ask

>>104538343
Uh oh pebblepaggy

>Gamer of EN
>Sucks at Chess
CC is the new gamer of EN then?

>>104538434
Fuwamoco are streaming in 1 hour
Cecilia and ERB streamed earlier today
No excuses

>>104538524
Makes sense. Ever since her meltdown she's been pissing hololive fans off. She doesn't care about hololive and will probably sink their ship on the way out.

>>104538540
What? Raora made better moves than GG. At least Raora's moves didn't almost throw the game... Twice...

Honestly Cover should hire two girls to tackle onto Myth like they did with Promise. Having gen anniversary with only 3 girls is just embarrassing!

>>104538582
>>104538524
>>104538496
ONE
MINUTE
BETWEEN
ANSWERS

YEAAHHHHHHHHHHH

>>104538583
raora did nothing except for what CC told her to do, and what little she did where bad moves

Cute cute cute!

>>104538578
always was

>>104538205
Cover are incredibly full of themselves and think that they're MORE than just streamers, they're a global multifaceted entertainment business

>>104538590
Tacking on new girls to years old gens, is retarded.

So this settles it right?
CC > Biboo

>>104538616
>and what little she did where bad moves
Huh? Name them. Because I can tell you with certainty that if they followed GG's plan to turn the pawn into queen early Justice would've lost.

>>104538576
Hey ennacuck there isnt going to be any streams today so maybe come tomorrow?

>>104538618
>Computer, enhance.
>Touching hands
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, are they?

>>104538506
>upset

>>104538654
>Holo vs Holo
You ain't slick phasenegro

>>104538329
EN is kind of headless I've noticed. YAGOO was talking about how he wants to focus on helping the girls find their direction or something like that in an earlier interview, which kind of implies they're all mostly just coasting with a
>Stream and sing sometimes and collect a paycheck
kind of vibe rather than some specific passion they're constantly striving for. Same with management, they don't seem to have any real idea of what they want the branch to be or encompass. JP is much better about that.

>>104523568
I nearly got it right. Dang it.

>>104538475
I don't know if she'd be interested but I'd like Isla Coleman for EN5. I liked her 3d live from a few months ago. She seems like a good egg

>>104538639
This post sounds so vitriolic and full of envy that it's like a woman made it

>>104538329
peak EN was 2020-2021. the only one who wanted to be an "idol" back then was kiara and arguably gura.
the old random fuckery vr chat streams were so much more kino than the performances that mori put out. they lost the SOVL of being streamer/entertainers and were reduced to dancing prerecorded monkeys.
NO ONE ASKED FOR THIS.

>>104538582
>>104538524
>>104538496

Nigga, plz, just stop. Let it go...

I'm okay with waiting more for new gen. Things like that simply take time to grow properly. It's just a better alternative than rushing some half baked gen with girls that clearly don't fit in or will graduate almost immediately like sana

Look at them

>>104538654
as pebble yes even ERB is greater than biboo you know what yagoo is greater than biboo just leave the girl alone now go after fucking reimu new debut give her some love

Justice > Advent
its settled

>>104538668
>Yomosaka

She knows

>>104538699
Not every criticism is jealousy you stupid ESL

i won a suisei plushie at an arcade recently and i really like it

>>104538730
Hololive > phase
its settled

>>104538684
someone already leaked it elsewhere what the thing was going to be yesterday (they said it was going to be either a motion comic or a song) so we might be getting song next

>>104538662
Pebblepag seethe

>bae yakuza7 part 10 5K
cull really is over

>>104538719
>Things like that simply take time to grow properly.
No they don't

>>104538599
This thread is fast so this sort of thing is not uncommon. It's not unreasonable for two people to have the same opinion.

>>104538346
lore shit is a waste of time for the girl to record this in their spare time. when it will never be mentioned, or watched by their general audience. its like collecting those useless book/data entry/notes in video games. Does anyone ever read those?

>>104538329
You forgot the most important requirements.

Vibe check. Ugly and evil ass bitches dont matter and their grifts will bring ruin to Holo if they dont filter them out.

>>104538639
Yes, and?

>>104538719
This

>>104538661
When she tried to attack the bishop, but GG also missplayed yes
thankfully all of advent sucks so nobody capitalized

>>104538590
There's a pretty simple solution. Merge Promise and Myth together into one gen, and then move Kronii to Justice. You now have 3 gens all with 5 people. Kronii already has a military outfit so she'll fit right in.

>>104538778
Come on nigga it was just Forbes, you don't need to throw a multiweek long melty for it

>>104538744
Funny that sounds just like what a jealous woman would say

>>104538806
AAIEEE GIGI IS SEXPESTING PERO

>>104538792
and they're wrong

>>104538744
Show tits

>>104538806
my cute wife

>>104538798
>split up TimeRyS
This is Omega-level retardation

>>104538590
No they should just shift them down by seniority
EN1: Mori, Kiara, Ina, IRyS, Kronii
EN2: Bae, Shiori, Biboo, Nerissa, Fuwawa
EN3: Mococo, ERB, GG, CC, Raora
There, fixed

>>104538639
yeah they obviously want a bigger audience thats what DEVis all about
duh

>>104537533
>after fucking every male in niji EN she's no longer heterosexual

somehow I can believe that imagine sucking off pretentious faggot like VOX or genuine perverted asshole like Luca only to get nothing out of it because they all fell off into irrelevance and all the humiliation was for nothing

>>104538749
could've paid a lot less for it at fandom/lashinbang w/o the rng

>>104538829
Nijiseethe

>>104538831
your wife seems pretty bad at using her brain. Might want to get her checked out

>>104538833
Guess anon doesn't have to put on a dress

Guys, we are being too greedy. Going too hard on new gens will result in the same situation nijisanji or phase are in. That would be bad for us. Let's slow down and manage our expectations properly.

>>104538816
Why the fuck would I be jealous I don't want to run a vtuber company

>>104538205
>They just need to rush out new gens until they can get cover the until 24 hour day with streams

That worked for NijiEN very well lately...

>>104538639
But they are a global multifaceted entertainment business

>>104538857
no need, i like them retarded

Kitanya sounded fine, but if kokonuts, milky, banyana are not getting in? Or if those are being reprogrammed to fit in, its fine to wait.

>>104538719
nothing is fucking growing
especially when youtube is culling shit all the time and shadowbanning your streams and channels.
Idea that you don't need to replace your LITERALLY most successful talents with at least something is wishful fucking thinking. EN needs new stars. New blood, New wind.
Otherwise it is stagnation. Especially when obviously management doesn't really have any interesting ideas.

>>104538862
>1 gen per year
>going too hard
????

>>104538865
I don't know, why are you jealous?

Nimi missed out on the giga holofunnel

i got 3 days bc i celebrate charlie kirk death what did i miss?

>>104538851
The crane rng is a part of the fun. I tried getting a pekora and haachama plushie too, but i failed

>>104538785
vibe check is assumed by default

>>104538898
is that the KING ENGINEEEEEE!?

>>104538862
they cant support the current ones and they want more? morons

>>104538803
Absolutely no one cares about that. It's normalfag old media. I guess that is all she cares about. She's never been on that vtuber magazine which means much more. Why do you think anyone cares? You project.

>>104538862
I'm just wondering where all the recent indie grads are going

>>104538862
EN literally lost literally all of their most popular talents lmao
the fuck are you on about?

>>104538941
You're having a melty
Seek assistanceb

https://poal.me/mgyufl
https://poal.me/mgyufl
https://poal.me/mgyufl

>>104538941
>Absolutely no one cares about that
>Has spent the last month calling Suisei all sorts of names

This is embarrassing

>>104538782
w/o lore, you might as well watch ethots. the whole point is that they are playing a fantasy character. this whole hobby is about escapism and them being unrealistically idealized subservient females

I've noticed YouTube has been doing this a lot lately, and it's almost always with hololive music. Why is it recommending me 3 random fucking playlists instead of just recommending me the actual video for Mori's new song? I don't want to click some rando's playlist. I never do that. Is there some kind of option where I can get YT to stop recommending me playlists?

>>104538941
Holy shit calm down you sperg

>>104538848
how well did that work out for them

Nimi wins just like that huh

>>104538886
Tanya is verifiably a good girl

>>104538984
Pretty good I'd say

>>104538971
Where the fuck is this retardation coming from? JPs do not do cringe lore shit and are fine. It is not really necessary

so what was the reason why they had to do the chess collab last minute despite it also being myth anniversary?

>>104538889
>Idea that you don't need to replace your LITERALLY most successful talents with at least something is wishful fucking thinking. EN needs new stars. New blood, New wind.
if holofans had to pay for homos to get ARMIS after losing dumb and dumber EN should get two gens of cute brown girls for losing amesame+faumei

>>104538958
You need to adjust your expectations, the people who quit HoloEN were worthless and we always hated them, we love Advent and Justice, the saviours of Hololive

releasing 1 gen a year is not rushing

>>104538963
gotta vote for shimaidonburi

>>104539002
kanade and ririka are so hot

AHAHAHAHAHAHA total Adventcuck humiliation

>>104538886
Phasing in

>>104538785
>mori is in charge of the vibe check
>she hangs out with ALL the indies
great filter, yep

>>104538973
No, it will recommend the song exactly once, and then shunt it into playlist hell for the next few years before randomly recommending it individually again years after you forgot about it.

>>104538590
Move Risu and Iofi into Myth
Move Kobo and Renei into Promise
Move Kaela into Advent
Move Zeta into Justice
Move Moona, Ollie, Anya into JP Gen 2
Disband Holo ID

>>104538921
You say that, but then all other corpos fail the basic "default" check and bring ruin to those companies.

>>104537953
People in this thread are just schizos that don't watch anything, man

>>104538973
>was morrowind as good as I remember
yes

>>104537173 (OP)
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>>104539019
It is already the second half of year is anniversary after anniversary + birthday + concert and some other bullshit

>>104539011
Fan fun fantasy is just lore in a nutshell

>>104539011
pekora/subaru/etc never ever dropped character in their entire existence. fuck off

wow that got shot down fast

>>104538886
the only one of those that's EN5 is Milky, the rest are either whoring it up in phase or whoring it up in a small corpo/dead corpo like nijiEN

>>104538984
of course it didnt work,they are TRYING
>do a normal gen?
its not working

>>104539002
They're less popular than the original JP branch, and it's not like there's new people watching them either, they didn't expand their audience
It's an Omega-tier failure

>>104539026
i am supposed to seethe about this but some how i feel sad for her idk why

>>104539081
He has been doing it FOR FOUR YEARS

Probably some of the words are already blacklisted by now

>>104539086
>of course it didnt work,they are TRYING
why do they keep TRYING to reach a normalfag audience when their success has always been with otaku?

>>104539086
But it worked tho?

>>104538973
I dunno, but it fucked my usual recommendations too, since the last 2 months. And somehow it does it more frequently on Sundays.

>>104539086
>they are TRYING
They should stop trying and accept what they're actually good at

Homofaggot delusions is up on the sky once again. Nijiniggers is using the anti idol approach. Did that successful chess event rattle their asses so much

>>104539105
If they has actually blacklisted them it wouldn't show up at all

>>104539018
no I don't need to
cover is not a small indie company
it's not my job to figure their shit out. Whole shitshow is their fuck up in the first place one way or another.
>the people who quit HoloEN were worthless and we always hated them, we love Advent and Justice, the saviours of Hololive
shut the fuck up

>>104538891
YAGOO said they don't want to debut a new gen before previous gen can stand for themselves.
With that said, no new gen until all Justice girls are above 5K average CCV

>>104539027
>>104539082
>phase
>new gen
lol, they don't even have merch.

>>104539018
We only hate nimi here

>>104538941
>She's never been on that vtuber magazine

>>104539089
nigga they are on the same level of popularity as rof-mao which debutted 2 years before them. Mind you this is an entire different branch made just for jpop idol bullshit and they are handicapped by AO le disease so yeah thats a good gen with all the debuff they have 2 good singer one good social butterfly and one good brand collector

>>104539026
hhhmmm why are these graphs so different?

>>104539090
I feel pity for the Advent girls for they have to deal with fans like Myron

>>104538958
I swear to God if you plan on how to get them to stay is
>Just give them whatever they want no strings attached

Then I beg you to fuck off. The four girls were going to leave sooner or later, and it's a miracle they didn't do it on 2023

>>104539089
Can't say about others but Raden definitely pulled new fans in

>>104539019
I wonder what happened to the managers of the people who graduated in the last year.

>>104539141
stop he's already dead

man this thread is moving so slow meanwhile global is at its 3rd thread now

>>104539106
It's the same mental illness that affects every small business that blows up overnight
They think the sky is the limit, that this growth can go on forever, that they can become the most popular thing in the world because they've tasted that incline

>>104539039
vibe check is cover's internal thing what the point in actually mentioning it?
also I kinda don't mind a bit of friction for ambitious idol minded people.

>>104539082
milky is 100% going to flop because doxxfags can't stop overhyping the mori nepotism pairing
remember how ina-sana were supposed to be best friends too? turns out their dynamic is being total bitches to each other (which is probably a fine friendship irl) but it just ruins ina's idol image while not boosting sana.

>>104539144
maybe they're a good gen but they're still less popular than what came before it and they never reached any new audience, it's just regular Hololive viewers

>>104539149
>still objecting the 9.5k vs 9.2k likes
Adventkek everyone

>>104539160
Raden would have pulled more new fans in as a real member of holoJP. She didn't need to be in a weird experimental homocollab branch to talk about art.

>>104539064
that's beyond the point
>>104539071
lol? you don't even watch them

>>104538963
good job posting it on global too but weird justice has that low counts

>>104539164
and this is at it's top speed nowadays

>>104539164
Towa global or this global

>>104538751
I'm not touching hand with an otomo, their hands are stiff

40k VOD from a 3.5 hour, 8k average stream
Yeah, ok dude

>>104539181
>remember how ina-sana were supposed to be best friends too? turns out their dynamic is being total bitches to each other (which is probably a fine friendship irl) but it just ruins ina's idol image
brown opinion

>>104538187
Pebbles are happy their oshi works hard, is improving, and seems to be happy with the people around her

>>104539026
RUMAO! Indie Avengers won!

>>104539232
He was baiting ignore such post

>>104539106
>>104539107
>>104539112
its not good enough neither devis nor holox
they cant expand like this

>>104539180
cover is a talent company, why bother mentioning any talent requirements?

>cute voice
talent
>cute models
talent
>decent singing
talent
>characters
talent

Why bother saying those since those are all basic requirements for talent?

>>104539225
>1 hour ago
It's going to be in the 100K range after YT finishes processing (takes roughly a day)

>>104539086
>its not working
but it does
and did
people want to watch hololive because of hololive
that's how you get normies you show them that hololive is great. You don't get into normalfag (not real btw also) audience by showing them what you assume they want. It never happens and will never happen because that's simply not how things work.

>>104539222
That's not my hand, you silly grem

>>104539161
managers each have 2 or more girls they oversee so they would just have 1 less to manage

>>104539246
>they cant expand like this
they just can't expand, the boom is over

All i have to say is
Regloss >>>>> ROF-MAO

>>104539026
>>104539210
bots

>>104539036
>Move Risu and Iofi into Myth
>Move Kobo and Renei into Promise
Do you want to explode?

been away for a week, did they announce en5 already?

>>104538205
its called idol larping and yagoo is a loser thinking hololive could be as big as AKB48

>>104539277
>ROF-MAO
whats that?

>>104539268
Stealing this

>>104539265
Imagine calling Phase an opportunity of a lifetime

>>104539245
I know anon, it should still be said

>>104539246
that's literally false lol dev_is expanded fuck all
suisei is expanding shit, marine is expanding shit, miko is expanding shit.
The most hololive talents ever. They are pushing into normalfag sphere... AGAIN.
everything management does is interfering and fucking shit up

The day it all snowballed

Its funny how hard Advent and Justice are trying to carry HoloEN and they just cant. They lack the charisma and star powder of ProMyth.

>>104539265
what if she was going to be in a new vshojo gen kek

>>104539268
How does one tiny rock exude so much aura?

>>104538857
kys czech tranny

>>104539315
how much did you get paid to write this

>>104539254
Nigga, it's already reached the point of glacial growth.
Only 3k extra views in the last 30 odd minutes

>>104539164
>>104513895
>18 hour thread
>400 posts
???

>>104539315
STAR POWDER

>>104539317
She would've grifted it hard like all the other "I was supposed to be in Vshojo but never debuted" rejects

>>104539341
he does it for free

>>104539315
specially biboo, shes just astroturfed by botting

>bibjeet lost
Kek

>>104539347
Fucking monkeys, superman was right

>>104539247
>cover is a talent company, why bother mentioning any talent requirements?
I didn't? I literally just named what I want and voiced an opinion that it's stupid cover never tried idolshit with EN and literally gave up and started doing shit as if EN is 8 gens of JP when they skipped all the steps JP had. It is very fucking annoying.
>Why bother saying those since those are all basic requirements for talent?
ARE THEY??? ARE THEY BASIC REQUIREMENTS??? EN literally never had talents with unique voices like Marine. Or cute voices like Ayame or even Noel.
Stop saying retarded shit.

uh oh Biboo schizo melty

what was the announcement?

>>104539311
kinda, Fauna was thinking about getting out of there before that. Gura and Mumei was a last moment choice, like there was no place for them anymore.

I like that we get people criticizing cover for not being idol enough, and also people criticizing them for too much idol, depending on the day and thread. They can't win.

>>104539397
Nothing important

>>104539368
while there's some truth to that, the astroturfing worked; she's legitimately one of if not the most popular single talent in EN right now by all measurable metrics, including ones that aren't frequently gamed to our knowledge

>>104539392
>EN has no talent
Opinions discarded

if cull is over, why nimi 1:1 ratio?

>>104539392
>cover never tried idolshit with EN
what does that mean? they do concerts and shit

>>104538782
I love those data books lol

>>104539225
meanwhile cc with a 7k sub 2 hour stream, really makes you think

>>104539415
>she's legitimately one of if not the most popular single talent in EN right now by all measurable metrics
not true

>>104539159
My plan is not the point. Point is that EN needs more people and will need more people even with EN5

>>104539404
>people criticizing cover for not being idol enough
Hilariously stupid falseflag attempt
>also people criticizing them for too much idol
Phasefags and liggers throwing shots

>>104539315
Lol the top 5 HoloEN members are all in Justice/Myth.
1. Fuwamoco
2. Biboo
3. Raora
4. GG
5. ERB
However they do need help, and a new gen is the only way to lift them all up.

>>104539426
Like bots

>>104539397
They had important announcement in description which they removed to only announcement. Probably will be announced later

REMINDER
https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/e5fc5d6e/af2e/4cb2/80aa/1f8120e5ffae/20250520183805075s.pdf
>Our thinking is not to simply replace those who have graduated with new performers. Rather, we are looking to develop the influence of each of our existing performers so that they can realize what they want to do.
>Therefore, rather than unnecessarily injecting new performers, we are shifting to a system that provides more equitable support to the most promising talents currently under our management. On top of that, we need to constantly nurture new performers, as a medium- to long-term strategies.

https://youtu.be/wiXnTY_MH5Y?t=4803
>All I will say is that it'll probably be a while, it'll be a hot minute [...]
>I can neither confirm nor deny, but I think right now there were no lies being told when it was stated that "we're going to be looking after the people that are here right now instead of just getting new people in and trying to rely on profits through that", I guess, if that makes any sense. They were not fibbing, it's gonna be a minute at least for EN, so I hope you guys are comfy with the girls that are here right now. We're doing our best! [...]
>I can't confirm or deny anything, they may have been cooking something behind my back that I know nothing about, but from what I know and have heard.

>>104539315
there's simply no good antagonist in vtubing anymore. we need ONE good heel
promyth had to fight off covid and travel bans and incompetent management. jp side had to fight off bugmen chinks.
there are no battles left to be fought and no reasons for fans to care

>>104539432
everybody in hololive does concerts
what about "idol unit" is hard to understand?

>>104538493
You are the type to get mad at your boyfriend for what they did in a dream

>>104539225
shhhh, youre not supposed to mention it

>>104539430
>Whole holo + homo box altogether at this moment
>Still loses to Nimi's peak tonight
Sad...

>>104539462
Nimi is the antagonist

https://x.com/hakuikoyori/status/1967419126395306182
>※ヒント:こよりだけではない
Koyori running some big collab again probably

>>104539491
What idol units are there in Hololive?

>phasefags are harassing and doxxing their own talents
What's going on? what prompted this behavior?

>>104539461
This is the way to go

>>104539421
so you have no argument lmao? fuck off then dumb retard

cover should hire the girls from new jeans for EN5 I heard theyre jobless

>>104539499
Nimi already lost two hours ago nigga

I don't care about your seething and shitting
Promise all the way baby

>>104539415
The only good thing biboo schizo does with his regular biboo melty is making people ignore whatever bullshit he spews which works positively for both pebbles and biboo now. It was fun earlier when she was a runt but now its like a monkey screeching for no good reason

>>104539461
>Trust me Guys EN5 right before the concert to do watchalong
>Trust EN5 during the EN concert
> Trust me EN5 right after the concert
> Mori is going to announce EN5
>Both Shiori and GG has ??? on there schedule it's EN5
> Trust EN5 after the chess collab?

>>104539462
the storyline in EN was supposed to be unitychads defeating the unicorns and welcoming TEMPUS to holopro but it didn't work out. They tried rebooting the narrative with ARMIS ERB and Shiori but it just isn't sticking.

>>104539516
/pol/tard shit

>>104539002
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo they're just a pet project

>>104539455
>top 5
>Raora
>ERB
?

>>104539491
Every gens are effectively an idol unit.
Just make it clear, what exactly do you want them to do?

>>104539426
Cull isn't totally over, and it perma deleted some of her viewers that where seen as bots, so even if the cull is over, she won't get back all of her watchers entirely.

brats lost

>>104539539
Ah i thought it was luxiem defeating selen and vshojo huggers and ushering a new era for nijiEN while riding kuzuha's dick with meloco??

>>104539368
>>104539415
>meanwhile all your nijinigs that you botted to hell over 10x their regular ccv are still nobodies
kek what a fucking joke

>>104539400
>Gura
was already thinking of leaving in 2023, it was not a "last moment choice"
Only reason she stayed as long as she did, rather than graduating in 2024, was to get all the prerecorded obligations including holofes and myth 3D anniv out

>>104539462
Isn't that fine? Why do the newer gens have to struggle or have to fight against anyone?
Be happy they can enjoy all of the benefits the older gens worked so hard to earn

>>104539247
>>cute voice
>talent
>>cute models
>talent
>>decent singing
>talent
>>characters
>talent
>Why bother saying those since those are all basic requirements for talent?
This reads like a seething 1view mad at Holo.

>>104539265
Ah yeah, the trustworthy and reliable source of "Cunny News Network"

>CCGG seethe into Holoseethe into Bibooseethe then loop back

Why is this too common

>>104539566
Kinda funny how Genos VA knows about Hakos Baelz and watches her stream.

>https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Kaito-Ishikawa/

>>104539309
Maitake

>>104539565
need saba stream to know for sure

>>104539575
I don't think that was holoEN management's plan, personally

>>104539462
EN V-Tubing since 2024 has been little more than a humilliation ritual, that's why these "Champions" are propped up here and there.

But if Doki with the single biggest dramabuff in history didn't prop the indie scene, nothing will.

>>104539516
I don't know and I don't care and also phase should graduate to make more room for Hololive

>>104539555
Raora: most watched AFO short, highest CCV of any Justice 3D debut.
ERB: 2nd highest 3D debut despite having no Hololive guests and only Holostars. And still gets high ccv on many streams without bots or raids.

>>104539608
no one watches anything else here. Zero clue about phase, nijiwho? and indies get thrown around left and right

>>104539588
Where's storyschizo when you need him

>>104539461
>>Our thinking is
WISHFUL THINKING
what makes you think that fucking retards who birthed fucking OMEGA who almost ruined their whole branch and then were so busy sucking their own dicks and taking things for granted that they lost all their popular talents know what the fuck they are doing? They don't. They never did.
>Rather, we are looking to develop the influence of each of our existing performers so that they can realize what they want to do
It's a meaningless corpo statement and means nothing without specifics.
So far by the way their efforts to "develop" anything ended up in failure and management REALLY fucking wants to ruin hololive in general because they are that stupid.

>>104539461
>lose 4 of your most beloved iconic talents
>sit on your ass for an entire year+ doing nothing
tell me how this is a smart business move? what other company would think this is acceptable?

>>104539608
because those are the most retarded fanbases and they keep biting bait

>>104539462
Niji and nimi are still there tho?

>>104539462
Sameko Saba

>>104539565
Something else perma deleted people and you can't put it on jewtube lmfao

>>104539592
they arent even trying to hide it at this point

>>104539600
That 10 hour jerma stream was a trip

>no Biboo streams in 2 days
thank you Cover

>>104539533
He's not wrong when he points out that she gets botted. It just doesn't matter, she'd usually still come out on top even without the bots
>>104539584
>lure people in to watching a loser
>"wow this person sucks" (closes stream)
>lure people in to watching an actual entertaining streamer
>"I should watch this person more" (subscribes)
real mystery

>>104539647
i have seen the exact reply before

>>104539620
MINDSHARE BROS

>>104539455(me)
Meant to say Justice/Advent.

>>104539647
you're right but you won't convince the SEA tribalists in this thread

feels like we're back to 2022 again but without nijien dominance. All we need now is new stars debut

>>104539639
>most watched AFO short
lmao, what even is this
>highest CCV of any Justice 3D debut.
least viewed Justice 3D debut you mean
>2nd highest 3D debut despite having no Hololive guests and only Holostars
okay so youre just a retard

>>104539647
Femoid fingers wrote this post

>>104539658
Niji EN is fucking dead, and holo JP is holding fine against niji JP
Ex-holos aren't a threat except to schizos

>>104539701
Being blind and deaf to nijinigger propaganda is a good thing

>>104539651
damn how dare they make an effort to please the current girls
they should just fucking accelerate like in nijisanji and don't bother if people start dropping like flies
also they should start paying dividends, and cut all expenses on the talents
am i right or am i right fellow hologods?

>>104539651
In part this is true, BUT, you should think about what happened to these girls who decided to leave in first place (7 talents+2 managers), before hiring more people.

>>104539605
he talks mostly about pippa so yes, it's trusworthy

>>104539608
cuz theres no en5
no new topic, no new drama
WERE STUCK IN TIMELOOP

>Beats Biboo in Crab Game
>Beats Biboo in Chess
>Beats Biboo in Silksong
>Beats Biboo in League
Man I guess GG is truly THE Gamer of HoloEN

>>104539559
I literally gave you a fucking list tho of what I want?
>effectively an idol unit
that's a big stretch if you look at how EN gens are.
>>104539506
You mean JP? They literally do not need them because of how idolcoded they are by default. Plus they have a lot more popular and more importantly loyal talents than EN.

>>104539735
pointing out the hubris of cover doesn't make you a nijinigger

>>104539728
Not that dead
Don't be like Hitler who decided Britain was pretty much dead only to get butt fucked by them a couple years later

>>104539608
Literal faggots.

Why is /HiRyS/ melting down over a collab with a random male?

>>104539742
What effort?

>>104539491
It’s not possible for EN due to logistical issues. Regloss can still hold a concert as big as the entire EN branch, yet they aren’t a huge success by any means.

>>104539759
Funny that sounds just like what a seething nijinigger would say

>>104539752
>holo vs holo
yawn

>>104539758
So EN aren't idol enough like JP, they need idol units, but JP doesn't have idol units because they don't need them because they're so idolcoded?
Can you explain what being an idol actually means?

>>104539765
It's not a collab and the fact that you're calling it a collab makes me think you're the one shitting HIRYS in the first place

>>104539588
some people like CGDCT slice of life
but a lot more people like shounen battle anime
hint: the latter category is like 100x larger

>>104539787
It definitely is a collab, he will be in voice chat with them

>>104539635
>But if Doki with the single biggest dramabuff in history didn't prop the indie scene, nothing will.
The indie scene is too large, diverse, and divisive to propped up by a singular person tbhdesu
It's not like corpos where they have shared "box", if you're indie the closest thing you have to that is maybe 2-4 friends who also indies that you have a small level of viewership overlap with

>>104539588
no competition = no innovation = stagnation = eventual decline

>>104539789
They should play Chrono gear if they like battle shounen so much
That game's story is battle shounen to a T

>>104539780
Bibjeet lost get over it cuck saba mogged her subs in less than 24 hours kek

>>104539765
its a day ending in y

>>104539783
Thats because en audience is at most 1/5 as large as JP. EN5 wont fix that. So the argument about EN5 being "idol" is dumb since you dont consider any of the current EN doing idol work as idols because they're not as big as JP.

>>104539566
i think one punch man SUCKS

>>104539812
JP has had no competition since 2019 just like EN has had no competition since 2020

>>104539647
>>104539701
Smell like a retarded nijinigger in there
How do you cope with all the girls saying they are happy about the current status quo? you shit yourself and call them bootlickers?
>>104539773
Concerts? events? The girls clearly being happy and enjoying an increase kind of unity?
You're more than willing to shit on cover manifesting random bullshit out of your ass but the shit mori said somehow is not to be acknowledged?

>>104539805
I watched the Miko collab, nigga.

The only time he ever talked with the talents was a 1 minute interview at the end.

>>104539622
it could've happened to literally anyone.

DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>104539268
This is true, nobody in EN can reach her CCV.

>>104539742
1 gen a year is not fucking accelerating

>>104539839
>How do you cope with all the girls saying they are happy about the current status quo?
What does the girls being happy have to do with Cover growing as a company?

>>104539742
The fans only watch Hololive because of the Holo Box. The EN box is currently Meh with no real draws (draws as in they can make people come watch them on any channel no matter what).
How do you fix this? Add more people into the EN box.
Why? Because it increases your chances of finding another instant hit like Gura and Fuwamoco, and also give more collab partner variety and options to the EN Box.

>>104539687
I doubt it but I said similar things before.

>>104539850
Happy for her. Remember the doomposting a few months ago.

>>104539818
ennapag this is pathetic you're just throwing everything at the wall without even knowing what you're talking about

>>104539880
We don't need more HoloEN members, HoloEN is stronger than it's ever been
Until we get more HoloEN members, then those members will have saved HoloEN

>>104539877
is that even a real question nigger?

>>104539588
Because if you don't have adversity you won't get kino story arcs that get people invested.
Remember a good portion of people who stuck around with hololive back in 2020 did so because they didn't want to big bad pooh and his Zhang army to win

>>104539839
>How do you cope with all the girls saying they are happy about the current status quo? you shit yourself and call them bootlickers?
are you retarded? how is it in any way relevant?

>>104539837
>JP has had no competition since 2019
you don't believe that

>>104539848
But it didn't

>>104539910
Yes

>>104539839
Yes the girls are happy but it’s the same as in previous years.

>>104539850
Oga's bitch

>>104539268
If management had any brains, they would be pushing her as much as possible. They fucked up with Gura but she didnt care anyway. Biboo wants to work and all the other girls love her also.

>>104539842
just post the videos
it was like 15 minutes total talking with them
https://youtu.be/WiuXHt1tkMg
https://youtu.be/2f5Dq-HY0w4

>>104539775
>It’s not possible for EN due to logistical issues
It literally is possible but it requires a bit more efforts from cover than bare minimum

>>104539897
Uh oh pebblepaggy seethe
>saba 1.37mik
>bibjeet 800k
Kek

>>104539877
>>104539916
Spoken like a real nijitranny lmfao
>unhappy talents
>talents leave
Nigger lol
>>104539937
Bullshit nigger

>>104539462
There are still battles being fought.
When Mooms and Fauna got their emo choreo denied just because it wasn't homogeneously idol coded, the villains won.
It's a culture war and the west lost to the dirty old japanese businessmen.
Sometimes anime girls trying their best is not enough.

please don't release a new gen cover-sama
our by the beet organs are already getting smothered

>>104539912
Sounds like "people" are dramafags, then
AKB had no real antagonist and yet they got their beautiful storyline just fine. Just find a grand goal to aim at.

>>104539969
How is the girls being happy growing the company?

could management maybe be waiting for the US tariff situation to be resolved before debuting EN5? revenue from debut merch is likely where they get a return on their initial investments into new gens

>>104539855
Yes it is

>>104539981
We need new gens to attract new schizos though

>>104539744
lol think? they thought enough. they need action
fuckers were thinking through 2022-2025 and that's the result

>>104539994
Wtf do you think would happen if they were unhappy nigger

>>104539981
I just want more good singers

>>104539906
Lol you must be an undercover Niji fan who is purposely giving the worst advice to Hololive in order to make them flop. Lucky for you, there's a lot of idiots in the Holofanbase that also think everything is fine. Hell's you could have 10 more EN graduations in the next month and they'd still think HoloEN is doing fine.

>>104539880
>dogfuckers adding any value to the EN box
you're delusional

>>104539986
There is no grand goal so you have to invent scapegoats to get mad about

>>104539997
Retard

>>104538006
What a fag

>>104539971
>When Mooms and Fauna got their emo choreo denied
No, you fucking retard, the song was a last minute choice they were made to do and they COULDN'T GET CHOREO AT ALL. Fuck off and stop talking about what you don't know about.

Biboo 1 Million when, ERB is gonna catch her at this rate

>>104539999
real, im so done hearing the same shit everyday

>>104539994
Did you mean "the group"? Because I don't give a fuck about "the company"

>>104540015
How is that relevant? Doesn't matter if they're happy or not, the company still isn't growing

>>104539969
I started watching with Advent

>>104539996
>no EN5 until 2028
Grim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHcApxr5heQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHcApxr5heQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHcApxr5heQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHcApxr5heQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHcApxr5heQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHcApxr5heQ

>>104539742
Cover unironically should try harder to penetrate EN market.
Fucker you are so dumb. They literally THEMSELVES acknowledged that they had no strategy and were just strolling along with unexpected myth popularity.
And I said it before but hololiveEN competition is not nijiEN phase or indies lmao it's whole western streaming scene.

>>104539999
It's funny how every single member of HoloEN has her dedicated schizo at this point

>>104540041
damn even combined, irys mogged those shitters...

>>104539880
The box doesn't need more members, it needs more events. Council newfags and Justice newfags have an attachment to the gens older than theirs because they had events like OG EN Minecraft and ENReco to help push the cross-gen interactions and form new bonds with new members. Advent newfags don't because there was no box event when Advent debuted, so they have minimal overlap with other gens.

>>104539986
>AKB had no real antagonist
The fuck are you talking about, they compete against each other all the time