Thread 104685942

How did your ex-oshi betrayed you?

Talk about it here so you may able to move on someday.

Collabed with Zentranny.

she ....
she wrote on social ...
that she ....
she's ... she says she's getting m...
m....
she's getting married okay?
married
and not to me
yeah
support welcome indeed lmao.

After Kiryu Coco

Now my kamioshi is Ichijou Ririka

She will not betray me

Even if she does betray me

I will accept it or move on

The answer is rotation

If you rotate with acceleration, you won't be hindered by depression

>>104686516

You need to accelerate, boy

Do you want to accelerate?

She used to be really talented, worked really hard, graduated, joined dorito as a green and now does fuck all.

Accelerate.

Accelerate.

Accelerate.

Repeat this three times in your heart, and all and any betrayals will feel faint.

This is the solution to depression.

>>104686578
Why? Sounds dumb

She pretends to be a virgin not interested in males

>>104686630
Accelerate.

Simply accelerate.

Her manager has allowed her to stagnate for the past year. She hasn't done anything interesting since 2024. Smshe keeps getting milked for collabs by less popular boring twitch vtubers. She's just floundering with no growth or development. She's never going to get a new model or outfit or hairstyle because her artist is crazy. She's not developing at all. Its so frustrating. I wish her support group was smaller but actually supporting her and being strong. I wish she had a different artist who designed her. I wish the manager would get off his fucking ass.

>>104686771
this is what happens when you fail to accelerate

>>104685942 (OP)
Vertical streams 6 months after they became a plague.
I thought she wasn't going to bother. And then she went all-in and did them for most of her non-gaming streams.

>>104685942 (OP)
Ame leaving Hololive.

>>104685942 (OP)
asked for my honest opinion then used it against me and got her corpo to issue a statement against fans like me for expressing the opinions she asked us to express

I moved on long ago but I still hate her and seeing her work with murderous psycho furries is gratifying

>>104686771
>manager
>indie
Kek
>>104686787
Stfu already

>>104687441
Yeah manager

>>104686554
Bean...

>>104686771
>I wish the manager would get off his fucking ass.
seriously? he makes her ride cowgirl every time? he won't put in the effort for doggy style?

She got drugged at a party after getting stupidly drunk and then probably got fucked, which she deeply regretted
Haven't watched a stream of hers since then but she's still in the back of my mind

>>104687698
Gura?

>>104685942 (OP)
She broke up with me a couple weeks after joining that corpo, which, fine, i'm not a fan of vtubers lying about dating anyway, but dropping a two year relationship out of the blue is fucked up. I dont know how you can just drag me out of depression and alcoholism, bring up kids, look at apartments together, and then just drop it all as if it didn't matter at all. Thats spectacularly fucked up. I know you lurk here too, I know you're gonna see this, and part of me wishes your fanbase knew about the shit you've done behind closed doors. Hate that I still care about you.

>>104687666
Not funny

Was a ex -Kroniie, collabed with males and promised not to do it. Then backstabbed her fans, also she picks the most boring games to play
Was a ex novelite , filled in that "cute girl next door yaps to you about books and stuff". Slowly did less gfe, then sprang and cucked her fans 2 years with male Monster Hunter stream, and banned anyone who disagreed
Now my new oshi is Chiaya, seems safe for now..

they failed to protect my smile
too many broken promises

>>104687712
Nah. But now that you mention her I'm starting to feel like this isn't an uncommon thing to happen. I fucking hate murrica.

>>104687698
Mori?
>>104687736
Skill issue

>>104687605
Is that a black bikini under there?

>>104686516
>homo cocksleeve who openly admits she just grifts her viewers for money
roru, rumao

>>104686554
Maybe she'll be blue again one day
But she might end up doing fuck all still.

>>104685942 (OP)
She's not my ex-oshi yet, but she's seriously stagnated over the past year compared to when she first debuted. No new albums, no streams, no interesting ideas or effort. She claims she's always busy and working hard, and that may be true, but all the things she's "busy" with are just being a supporting character in other chuuba's projects. I wish she'd put more effort into HERSELF rather than just eternally being someone else's sidekick. Most of the time it feels like she tries harder to pander to people who aren't even her fans while her actual fans get ignored and fed crumbs.

>>104687698
Trashpan...

>>104687698
laplus? haachama?

>>104688234
You will never be Asian.

Sure, I might be Chinese.

But at least I'm Asian.

You will never be Asian.

Stay non Asian, not that you can help it anyways.

Lmao!

Rumao?

Lmao!!

>>104688535
>bugman trying to cope by thinking he's even remotely similar to the nipponese
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>>104688535
nta. say tiananmen massacre 6/4 in your chinese vtuber's stream.

>>104686418
It's okay napcuck, there are a lot of vtubers who aren't self-obsessed bitches out there.

>>104685942 (OP)
My ex-oshi was /#/ .
/#/ told me numbers would go one was, but they went the other way. Now I'm sad, broke, depressed, and without money. I hope I can stop caring about /#/ one day

>>104688584
>>104688621

You will never be Asian.

>>104686516
>The answer is rotation
>Coco graduated in 2021
>Ririka debuted in 2023
??? The advantage to rotation is you always have someone. How are you going to claim you're rotating when there was over 2 years of nothing inbetwen

>>104688717
I wish I was Asian.

She left.
Years of saying love forever and how important her viewers were to her and then she just left.
She'll be back one day with a different name and a different face and everyone who knew her will have to pretend that the past years never happened and that it's totally fine that she abandoned us but it's not fine.

>>104688899
I don't care if I'm Chinese, Japanese, Taiwanese, Vietnamese, Korean! I just want to be Asian! Any type of Asian is fine!

Dumb cunt went from having some of the best content to outright killing almost everything a year in. Promises of anime, retro gaming, VN, etc. I was so pumped, and believed it fully when the first year contained a decent amount of all of that. Then she decided to do a flip on her output and dropped to almost half while cutting away all of those things first because they take too much time or effort. Fuck that, fuck you for getting my hopes up that a perfect woman, a true weeb woman would exist.

>>104688717
I am literally Asian rumao.
六四天安門事件 Taiwan is a country.

>>104685942 (OP)
Nimi LLD
Discovered Shiina's past wontons yab

Not oshi, but I enjoyed watching them:
Nerissa supporting non-binary and trans.
Not a bit deal though since I stopped watching her long before, she doesn't do karaokes, peaked with her early covers, has boring streams, can't game, and I really only enjoyed her family and collab streams. And I can't stand her and Shiori's fake yuri-baiting because Shiori is too obviously straight and more into male characters and the homos.

Kronii RM falling for the non-binary meme. Also not a big deal since I don't like her outside of collabs, she had a period with a bunch of tired, no effort streams which turned me off.
Her narcissistic personality is unattractive to me, only works in a banter dynamic in collabs.
Maid outfit is cute and sexo tho, great fanart.

Kiara: Discovered old RM stuff, still enjoy her songs and whore (compliment) models though
Nyanners: (Lol)
Clara: everything about her RM. Shame because she's a great singer and entertaining in a wtf way.
Jelly: RM old Minecraft stream

>>104688373
Let me guess, Jailbird?

>>104688928
granted now you're Indonesian.

>>104687605
where's her braid? she can't not have her braid.

>>104688373
Shiori? Nerissa? FWMC???

>>104686630
>Why? Sounds dumb
have you ever seen sonic being depressed?
gotta go fast, accelerate

>>104685942 (OP)
they decided that their EOP fans weren't real fans and began to cater to their smaller JOP fanbase.

>>104689393
Honestly you just need to rape them back to the white cock anon, they're used to tiny asian cocks atm, show them who really owns their wombs.

>>104686554
Her drop in quality the past year has been so disheartening.

>>104688413
QRD? Surely Ragi is seiso

>>104689043

You will never be Asian.

>>104689468

You will never be Asian.

>>104689618
It's the cost of the dorito they have to use several hours of every day on menial tasks that cover gives them + meet with singing instructors + manager meetings + flying to and from countries to preform, it doesn't seem like much from an outsiders perspective but each of those things add up and take away their energy from streaming so quality slowly declines, it's the cost of fame.

>>104689677
Anon, why did you read my post about raping women back to wanting white cock and think I'd want to be asian like you?

There's a you that remains, that remains and remains

Don't worry Mori Calliope.

If I have the resources and time

I will visit your stream again

No need to scream for me

No need to scream to me

You might not be my number 1

But you can be my number 2, or something

Though

My priority has always been Asians, though

Asians first

But I do try to share some of my resources with whites

Sharing is caring, under communism

>debut collab, not-so-subtilely alludes to collabing with same gender only
>goes the longest out of anyone in the corpo avoiding collabs with opposite gender
>says during Minecraft stream "I know people just wanna wtach a cute and silly anime person, and that's what I want to be for you. Someone you can come home to after a long day at work to make you happy"
>drops all that to collab with whores suddenly
>to put salt in the wound it's on the same week where they released high quality asmr VPs
I know I'll get laughed at but I wantned to let it out anyways.

>>104689747

You will never be Asian.

Hololive is inherently Asian.

Hololive's core, has always been Asian.

>>104685942 (OP)
I oshihen'd but then she dropped a really nice orisong so now I feel double betrayed.

>>104689834
Again anon what makes you think I even like hololive JP?

>>104689874
He'll imply that because you don't want your vtuber to speak a bunch of Japanese and try to become the cocksleeve of the company she works for, that you hate Japan, hate anime, and are a tourist or something.

>>104689874

Even

Even Hololive EN is inherently Asian

I'm sorry

I'm sorry to break it to you like this, anon.

>>104689803
I don't get it. Unless it's a dude, collabing with whores doesn't contradict the no opposite gender collab thing.

>>104689965

Hololive is inherently Asian. Even EN generations are inherently Asian, at their core.

>>104689635
QRD is she never showed up for a scheduled Valentine's Day stream because >>104687698
happened.

>>104690053
That's kinda depressing and I feel bad for her.

>>104690053
I believe it. Girl has a natural pull towards getting herself into stupid shit. I honestly don't know how trashpans are holding up these days, Ragi barely does anything now and her content is pretty stagnant. Never trust college vtubers fellas.

You're probably gone from this thread and there's a good chance you didn't care/post this question in good faith in the first place but I keep seeing these fucking baits and threads all over the place and seeing as how /vt/ is a bunch of clip casuals, I'll try and answer the best as I can, as someone who used to be a Day 1 Kronie.

>Honest Effort Essaypost Incoming

First of all, when people ask "What did Kronii do?" there will always be a bunch of trolls eager to jump in with responses like "SHE COLLABED WITH MEN" "SHE SAID UNFORTUNATELY IDOL CULTURE IS A THING" and "SHE PROMISED TO STOP COLLABING WITH MEN AND THEN DIDN'T." These answers are all wrong and everyone who posts them is a faggot. It doesn't even matter why they post them. Some of them are trolls just trying to stir the shit. Some of them honestly think that's what happened because they didn't follow Kronii and just listened to whatever troll post or dramatuber vid told them. Some are actual Kronies trying to make the Kronies that left look like unreasonable schizos. Whatever the case, every single answer that is along those three lines is wrong and can be discarded immediately.

What actually happened with Kronii was a little more complicated. Basically she first attempted to understand where her fans were coming from, and then abruptly did an about face and sided with the people calling them incels. It was a betrayal of trust on the deepest level, and whether or not she meant it this way is irrelevant, the effect was the same.

Basically Kronii did not have a lot of things going for her as a streamer early on. She had the Wada model and a nice voice. But she wasn't great at zatsudan, she wasn't great at games, and she wasn't great at singing, she also did karaoke pretty rarely. Which is fine, part of the joy of the Hololive experience is watching your streamer develop over time. Thus people had to find something else to latch onto and they did so by becoming parasocial with her. This wasn't helped by her choosing to watch a lot of "Gosling" movies in member streams like The Truman Show, and of course Ryan Gosling himself in Blade Runner and La La Land.

The male collab thing was not well received by this portion of the fanbase and they made their discontent known through long and lengthy posts in her community, trying to explain themselves as best they could. Whether they were CGDCTfags or just plain unicorns, or people who didn't like the drama that male collabs inevitably bring, they spelled out their grievances, for the most part as composed as they could be. I'd say the only person that came off close to being a unicorn was Aliaga Ayin's post and even that wasn't that deranged. Some of these posts were from long time members, people Kronii would actually talk and react to in chat, Kronies refer to such people as being on the "spreadsheet' which is an alleged list of her "favorite" members. The most notorious of this would be Gabe who was mentally ill and attention seeking from Day 1, but even his post wasn't that crazy.

The point is during a special unarchived member stream, Kronii took the time to read these posts, out loud on stream, in an effort to better understand what these people were unhappy about. And for a brief moment, that won her a lot of love and respect. While Reddit and Twitter were calling these people unicorns and incels, she actually took the time to read them, addressed their concerns, and even defended them, saying she didn't want people attacking her fans. She stated clearly, that while she would NOT stop doing male collabs, she would not initiate them, probably not tweet to them that much, and she would not stream her POV to them. This satisfied all but the most die hard unicorns, and again, even Aliaga Ayin was pacified. The point is, the Kronies that felt this way felt HEARD. She didn't just dismiss them out of hand, like others were doing.

Then less than a day later, she did this tweet, disappeared for a week, and when she came back said she would collab with whoever, whenever, and that was the end of it. There was no further discussion and at the same time the Hololive account made that proclamation against harassing the talents.

So in the eyes of the Kronies who felt betrayed, she had gone from understanding them and defending them, to siding with the people who mocked them and disparaged them, while running and hiding behind the skirts of the company from the inevitable backlash she had to know would follow. Honestly it would have been better if she had never done that unarchived members stream. She gave them hope that she understood, if not fully agreeing with where they came from, and then dashed it violently. That's why they hate her so much. It's not as simple as "male collabs" or "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" it is a real long standing feeling of betrayal and loss from people who watched her for over a year and thought they had a deeper understanding of their oshi and she them.

>>104687698
Why do unicorns care what happens to the person behind the vtuber? I mean yeah that's awful and I hope she's okay but I don't see how that should affect your unicorn feelings toward the vtuber character. Unless you found that information accidentally then it's your fault if you know that

>>104690229
Raki is very transparent when it comes to her vtuber persona and her as a human person. There's barely a layer of separation anymore.

Unfortunately Ceci isnt funny anymore and maybe never was, thats why Gigi overtook her, rightfully so because she doesnt stream. She doesnt even use her fucking violin, false advertising.

>>104690229
For the same reason that are you are asking this

>>104690326
Funmy thing is that GG isn't funny either.

>>104690405
yeah, i didnt say she was

>>104690222
good post

Oh I was a jailbird for a second. But she barely streams, doesn't play games anymore. Only does zatsus and Yuribaits fan art on Twitter. Very disappointed

>>104690326
Streaming was a fun time to relax, mess around and chat for hours about the most random stuff, or enjoy some media together. Now she acts like it's a quick in and out, low involvement chore.

>>104685942 (OP)
Watched her for a year as an indie and loved it
Then she joined Holo and I was happy she made it
First 6 months or so was great
Then she started getting complacent
Now it feels like she doesn't even try anymore
Dropped her for an indie who I know will never join Holo

>>104689174
Maybe you should stop looking at RMs, retard

>>104690222
This is a well crafted post, i'm sorry for your loss.

>>104690222
The worst thing about betrayal is that it never comes from your enemies

>>104690707
It's called MONEY
She needs to do whatever the company direction is, and does chat lightheartedly, but it's truly a job now.

>>104690707
Hobby/project vs job

>>104690777
I don't go looking for them, I run into them on here. The Kiara one wasn't even on /vt/, it was /v/

>>104690724
>Dropped her for an indie who I know will never join [corpo]
That's what I thought about mine.
Never trust. They all leave. They all change. It's just business to them in the end.

easy, its always the same shit
>oshi streams a lot, be happy
>oshi streams less and less, start coping
>oshi drops schedules and streams even less because of corpo/idol shit
>oshi starts using the 'im sick' card
>looking for a new oshi
>repeat
The obvious solution here may seem to be to stop watching hololive but in reality with indies or small corpos you just skip right to the 'im sick' card.
Im very close to being done with vtubers, its a ''hobby'' full of lazy and retarded woman who are just in it for the easy simp-money.

>>104685942 (OP)
I love Kiara, but she became too sexualized. Sounds fucking ridiculous for /vt/ and i'm really happy to see her confidence grow over so many years, but holy shit, it's too much.

>>104687713
lol this might be another Elira Pendora type moment.

>>104690906
>she became too sexualized
You can honestly say the same thing about almost all of HoloEN.

>>104690882
>/v/

>>104690882
>I run into them on here
I could tell from the way your post read like an AI summary of an average day on the catalog.

>>104685942 (OP)
Announced her graduation and made me feel like a retard for supporting her. I was already watching Biboo more at the time, but now I don't even keep up with her new model.

>>104690906
I've been watching Kiara since early 2021, only took a break for a few months when she was in her hardcore depression arc after the album release. Came back in 2024, and she 100% has ramped it up because it sells. She used to tease and flirt a little, and it would show up sometimes, and that was cute and sexy and fun. When it's ALL ABOUT THE BOOBA, it gets really tiring. I love the fever night outfit, but I really dislike what it's done to her general content and outlook on her 'character'.

>>104690906
Went from dorky weeb idol to shameless diva

>>104690972
Yeah, i feel exactly the same. I want more shit like some of her personal POV songs, but desu, i'm happy to see she feels good the way she is now, even though it's not something i personally enjoy.
>>104691031
Pretty much
>>104690943
I'm getting real fucking sick of constant queerbaiting all the time. It's fine once in a while, as a treat, but not when it's constant barrage of ohhhh_womeeen

>>104685942 (OP)
my oshi has never betrayed me sorry

>>104690882
He says while on this specific thread

>>104690882
>I don't go looking for them
>I spend time on the /vt/ catalog
Pick one and only one, you fucking retard.

>>104685942 (OP)
Two cases.
First one, she was part of a fan favorite duo but one day they stopped collabing and the fans noticed. One seemed to be really mad about it and my oshi was kind of sorry.
I kind of inferred that my oshi played a roll and it disappointed me because I was a huge fan.

Second case.
She was part of another duo and both of them were my oshis, this one quite more popular and again I loved it. They stop talking and one makes it look as if nothing had happened while the other is super sad about it.

I stopped supporting her and went to support the other one, over time it paid our handsomely.

Went from being in a corpo to being and indie got everyone really excited about her being her own boss and that the community would be okay only to then jump into another corpo less than a week later.

>>104690905
>in reality with indies or small corpos you just skip right to the 'im sick' card.
I kind of narrowed down what kind of girl I watch to the point where this never happens to me but man, I felt like pic rel when I was gathering common patterns and info watching random girls.
Your alternative is checking a channel and its monthly frequency. If there's a time skip you bail out.

>>104685942 (OP)
mine was an indie, obscure indie
she never did collab, didn't have to she was pretty entertaining on her own and it was nice to her going from quiet and reserved almost afraid to open up to really extroverted, loud, and willing to share her knowledge about fitness and health since se was a pretty big health nut
I really don't know how to explain what happened... it started with a few new viewers coming in, then they just dominated the stream vying for her attention
every stream was about them rather than her and she did nothing about it, even made them mods just so they could further shit up the streams acting as annoying as possible and derailing streams linking random youtube vids and demanding she watch them on stream or demanding she check discord live on stream for their messages
I checked back just a couple days ago when she was streaming and pretty much all her old viewers had abandoned her. Can totally see why too
she moved out of the U.S. just because of politics and literally spent most of the stream talking about american politics obsessing over it
all of her new viewers are just as bad too
she traded in the obnoxious chatters vying for her attention for the new
>just got done debating people on reddit about american politics
>streamer: oh yeah? how'd it go?
she used to break at least 100 viewers being a small indie, but now is lucky to break 20 most days

>>104691262
Kamo...

>>104688373
>>104689177
>>104689257
Gotta be a Jailbird, and honestly, same. I think it's why she agreed to have Paparissa on so soon, the Jailbirds are turning on Nerissa and she knows it. Shiori and FWMC haven't fallen off as far, but I think Shiori has fallen farther, given that she now normally streams significantly earlier than she used to.

Oh well. At least Advent still has Biboo.

>>104691391
No it was one of the former Boundlive girls

>>104691319
tell me who you found then, im generally more into gaming streams (real games) and close to giving up

>>104691391
kanna lost me for good today with her body cam stream, i was already one foot out when she joined a corpo and got that ugly new model

>>104691478
Other than Biboo, I think Shiori retains the most of her streams from her earlier days. She's still just as autistic and obsessed with the things she likes and can just tangent on command about the dumbest shit. The only difference is she isn't lovey dovey anymore and collabed with DA BOIS

>>104685942 (OP)
She graduated. She could have stayed, but she graduated. Her new content is a shadow of what it once was.
I've already moved on. But it still hurts.

>>104685942 (OP)
I thought Enna was only playing the bitch as a character, not that she was really like that.

>>104691674
Unpopular opinion time: I'm actually fine with collabs with the boys as long as they fit together well. Jurard didn't the first time, but I think he got the hint and toned it down the second time.

>>104685942 (OP)
she was having a menhera moment and talked about people who supported her in a members stream - members, donators, her dedicated clipper - insulting used because she thought we weren't doing enough for her and abandoning her. to me she went pretty much overnight from someone who I regularly donated to to someone who I couldn't listen to without thinking about what an ugly person she was inside. a bunch of regulars ended up deciding to oshihen
I ended up finding someone who I had more in common with as far as interests, whose content I enjoyed more and who has a bigger drive to do more without having the same kind of corpo backing. I'm much happier where I am now.

>>104690880
I hope she'll regain her passion, one way or another

>>104691752
Fuck i miss HoloSalt...

>>104691674
biboo is slowly drifting into her less-streaming-phase too, there are no vtubers with stable streams

>>104691986
There's always Clio lmao

>>104692041
dont tempt me, at this point i take everyone who simply just streams at all

>>104692041
lmao fuck no, I'd rather become a normalfag than watch a phase stream

>>104692076
you say that now, may as well start watching normal male streamers because a lot of them actually stream, its mostly woman who are able to do nothing and still get money

>>104690053
it was her friends that gave it to her too
>>104690148
>last ASMR stream was 4 months ago
>last members ASMR was 6 months ago

>>104692143
I'll watch male flesh streamers before I watch a phase stream

>>104692076
Shit, Clio is actually chill.
I'm tourist dumbass that likes streams as a background noise though

>>104685942 (OP)
what did ceci do?

>>104692182
theres your solution then, nothing wrong with that

>>104691084
I love my wife Ichijou Ririka.

I will announce it to the entire world.

>>104690707
Damn you guys are harsh
Only because she can afford to focus on her health and areas that are not as visible

>>104692428
The COMPANY wants to focus on things that are not as visible. She is in line with the company because she works for it and it affords her a lot of liberties she didn't used to have. You're only bringing up the health thing now because of the most recent comment from her about taking a week off, while ignoring how inconsistent her channel was during the 5 month Japan stint.

>>104692428
cover sucks the joy of vtubing out of everyone, or accelerates the process

>>104688091
She described it as a "bralette", kind of like a camisole

>>104692428
Watching someone you enjoyed for years deteriorate into a shell of their former self in such a small space of time is both sad and annoying

>>104686516
>>104686548
>>104686578
>>104686717
>>104688535
>>104692333
A lot of reddit spacing in this thread.

>>104692999
and how do you know, anon?

>>104691103
I like to see women scissoring as much as the next guy but the queerbaiting is getting out of hand, and not only in hololive

>>104690222
fuck off falseflagging napcuck

>>104690559
cuckold

>>104690859
Nimi is getting plapped as we speak

Oh boy, someone is really mad.

>Then less than a day later, she did this tweet, disappeared for a week, and when she came back said she would collab with whoever, whenever, and that was the end of it. There was no further discussion and at the same time the Hololive account made that proclamation against harassing the talents.
>So in the eyes of the Kronies who felt betrayed, she had gone from understanding them and defending them, to siding with the people who mocked them and disparaged them, while running and hiding behind the skirts of the company from the inevitable backlash she had to know would follow. Honestly it would have been better if she had never done that unarchived members stream. She gave them hope that she understood, if not fully agreeing with where they came from, and then dashed it violently. That's why they hate her so much. It's not as simple as "male collabs" or "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" it is a real long standing feeling of betrayal and loss from people who watched her for over a year and thought they had a deeper understanding of their oshi and she them.
This is complete fabrication.
Understanding != drop male collabs. Stop spreading lies

>>104693719
omega sex

>>104693519
I've learned over time that no woman that does that shit is worth of it so I drop them instantly if they do. You'd be surprised by how much bullshit you can avoid with that trick.

what a sad existence
it's friday night, step away from the computer and go have some fun

>>104693840
take your own advice, faggot

>>104693995
I'll take it when I start making replies like yours

>>104694079
you are an incel like the rest of us, stop pontificating

How come this thread has so many replies

OP only talked in Nimi anti threads
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/image/Z2vU-mnY9CRPdYWu-w9TZA/

Bot post image >>104686516
>>104692444

Also what >>104692999 said

Seems like this thread is to farm bait and content.
I here by certify this thread as a BVTM & Co bait thread.

>>104692832
I assume that since that model is also a titlet that it really must reflect on her irl size.

My oshi treated me like shit after being her main supporter for months. I fell for the grift, I should've left when she said oshi was some disabled EN whore.

>>104685942 (OP)
I drifted away and found a new oshi before she could betray me, pretty lucky desu
>>104686418
Maybe when she disappears for maternity and doesn't come back you'll be able to move on. Good luck anon

>>104690222
if my oshi did this I would turn anti for years

>>104697217
get fucked phaser.

>>104690321
It was Raki?!

>>104698252
no, they are having fun with you

>>104685942 (OP)
Her streams started feeling more like 9 to 5 job and she sees her fans as just numbers but someone she grinded with her talent and happy to have.

>>104690321
I see. I really don't like when vtubers keep making that line between vtuber and real person thinner and thinner, but I guess that's almost all vtubers these days.

>>104691370
That’s actually quite tragic. What a shame.

She refused to sit on my face.

She told me male collabs were going to be rare occurrences. Then she organized multiple male collabs and told me to improve myself for not liking them. The fly me to the moon duet with the blue homo was the last straw. I previously did not care about male collabs and even watched a couple homos, but the way Ame, my first oshi, handled them made me go schizo.

Then I switched to Fauna and then LLD happened. I've been trying to not get too attached ever since.

>>104685942 (OP)
Became a whore selling porn audios while in Hololive.

>>104695486
The lack of posts calling out the reddit spacing besides ours is the dead giveaway I would say. This thread is not natural. Although that seems to be fairly common on this board, many occasions have happened where I catch a thread when it's just been created, get the first reply and say something very incisive, then the thread gets hundreds of posts and none of them reply to me. Almost as if the thread is planned out in discord from the start and I threw off their plan so they can only pretend my post doesn't exist.

>>104685942 (OP)
Kronii betrayed me for collabing with m*les and the spreadsheet she has killed my love for her and still can't find a new oshi to fill that void

>>104685942 (OP)
She said her back pain was so severe she was bed-ridden. Then her roommate tweeted about spending the day at the salon. And after graduating the first thing she eventually streamed was Genshin.

>>104702651
What spreadsheet?

>>104702944
Newfag...

>>104702944
Ctrl+f "spreadsheet"

>content stagnating
>takes another fucking break
You know who it is. I'm fucking done. I'm sick of karaoke.

>>104685942 (OP)
She got a fanart with another vtuber that heavily implied he is her boyfriend(im the boyfriend)

TIL that my oshi collects swinger stickers...

>>104703057
Thanks

>>104691606
what's funny about kanna, recently even, is that a lot of her post earlier sounds like cope. it's a whole lot of words for getting oneguy'd in maros that you have to post about it.

also her ASMR sucks now, i don't know what happened. youtube chilled out on the ASMR apocalypse but she never came close to putting out the same quality after she got bonked.

there is no such thing as "reddit spacing" you fucking newfags. im sorry that you didnt pass middle school english class but it's called making your post actually legible for those of us with working brains

>>104703487
woah

>>104703487
im a contrarian. when people say not to reddit space, i reddit space. when people say to reddit space, i will clump my posts. like what im doing right now. now is the era of clump posting.

>>104690229
For the same reason you'd feel sad if there was a cashier at a convenience store you were familiar enough with to remember the face of but later overhear them laughing in the back while calling you the "Friday Wienerman" for always buying sausages on Friday

>>104690326
Watching their episode FWMC Morning stream gave me the impression that Gigi carries their duo hard

>>104690222
>during a special unarchived member stream
https://gofile.io/d/7M1nyX

>>104703887
beginner error, don't show chat on member streams.

She blocked me indefinitely without explaination on all socials and even dono platforms and steam. I was the only one gifting her stuff a giving big scs. Gave her immense donation when we celebrated monetisation. I dont fucking understand why. I did not do anything i could remember that would have caused this. Why would she block and ghost her only fan for 3 years out of nothing without warning? Was half a year ago but it still hurts

>>104704130
>and steam
buddy, you were in deep. either you fucked up and truly don't realize it, or she decided somewhere along the way that things didn't feel right; ghosting is considerably easier than trying to explain things to people, and if she's confident you wouldn't take it well if she talked to you directly, even more justification for her to take the easy way out.
sucks, anon. sorry bout that.

>>104703487
Reddit spacing exists because if you have only one carriage return after a quote, your next paragraph will still be added to the part you were quoting. So redditors always double space their paragraphs, where this is not necessary on 4chan because one carriage return will not merge separate statements.
This is particularly obvious after using >> to reply to a post.
If I made this post on reddit, it'd look like this:

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wow, yesterday I was not expecting this thread to survive and blow up like it did. (not OP btw)
Women, am I right?

>>104703422
it's not a cope, Meimi openly doesn't play what logs and management suggest her to play to boost the noooombers which I appreciate because I hate souls slop and warhammer

>>104690222
RIP
guess I'm lucky I could never get into her content in the first place

>>104704518
fuck off back to /pol/, election tourist

>>104691699
>she was really like that

>>104704130
maybe her bf felt threatened by you

>>104703610
>them laughing in the back while calling you the "Friday Wienerman" for always buying sausages on Friday
Who the fuck would get upset over something like that???

I can't really point to one, but it bothers me how much the "Golden Gen" has fallen on hard times in a year.

I was so hopeful for Advent, but of them only Biboo is left to carry, Shiori tries but DABOIS drama follows her now. And more she does it the more I see how dead she is inside.

Nerissa is the biggest disappointment currently in EN, even ERB does better than her now, just become a Vsinger already and give up. And her friendships with the rest of the group are so fake at this point.. Honest I think not even Kiara can stand her now.

FWMC, it's not the Japanese streams that bother me, it's their utter inconsistency. Do they even know what they're doing anymore streamwise?

Biboo at least still treasures the streaming side, but for how long, I don't think she'd stop if she can help it, but she can't fight the company. Just never knew she'd be the Anti-Gura where the company has to fight her to stop her from streaming.

>>104704851
It is possible and i think so too since i dont want to belive she did that out of her own reasoning. He was always less chatty when i was around. Whenever they played community games without me he would talk non stop. But they knew my wife and knew there was no reason to feel threatened romantically, since i never did anything in that direction and always just wanted to support her and our community and was happy to see her grow and get recognized

>>104705132
>and knew there was no reason to feel threatened romantically
I also happen to be the jealous type, so I totally get why he would feel this way despite you not doing anything... it is what it is.

>married dude donating "big scs" to a girl with a bf instead of buying something nice for his wife
has to be a rage bait

>>104705184
It was my hobby. Where is the difference if you buy merch from a rockband or a youtuber? It is all just entertainment. And big scs like a red here and there, not like spending my whole income

>>104685942 (OP)
Betrayal is a strong word, but she Flanderized herself so much after reincarnation that I can’t stomach it anymore.

>>104705229
Your wife told them to block you.

>>104685942 (OP)
does
>literally told me, by name, on stream, to leave and watch someone else
count? I don't think so, and I even deserved it for the shit I pulled... I still miss her, months later

>>104705431
>literally told me, by name, on stream, to leave and watch someone else
jesus fucking christ anon what did you do

>>104685942 (OP)
Graduated then disappeared from the face of the earth, then dropped songs despite her "throat hurting"

>>104705461
I can't say without some schizos recognizing me. yes, that happened before

>>104705483
She just wants to watch whales and shit. Don't take it too personally

Ina was my OG oshi. Watched her for years but she lost me with her FFXVI streams because Clive's game is just so boring to watch (and play). I haven't really gone back too often to watch. Okayu's game choices have been more my speed

>>104705461
A 2-view chuuba told me this when she was telling about jogging and I said that I want to sniff the back of her knees.

>>104705132
Male friends will always get insecure and possesive of the girl they orbit, no matter what you do. Might aswell piss them off since they are going to terrorize your relationship with her regardless.

>>104705349
Let.me.guess, Saba?

>>104705483
If your throat hurts you can still sing retard.

>>104704598
The thread about silently sperging about something your oshi did was also very popular. Would be nice if more of this discussion of the hobby happened, instead of all the weak bait threads.
>>103937741

>>104705762
Fuck you I want her back

>>104705731
Nope
another fish though

>>104686418
>and not to me
skill issue

>>104705863
She already told you she won't be coming back, fuck off.

"Betrayal" is such a dramatic word, but I left CC membership and subscription because for the 2~3 first months she didn't do shit for us otocranks. Now don't take me wrong, this wouldn't be an issue if it wasn't because she herself promised a lot of stuff; exclusive vlog, music streams, songs, midis and other stuff that I can't remember, but if she was honest and said "I'll occasionally upload random goodies" then yeah, perfect, but don't go asking for money and then failing to deliver on every single shit you promised, that's just wrong and shows a serious lack of ethic and I can't stand that shit.

>>104705796
that was a good thread

>>104704908
Upset is a strong word, but buying stuff at a store you know belittles you has to be atleast an uncomfortable experience

>>104704908
I would... thank god self checkout is a thing.

>>104706283
She still doesn't do shit for her Tier 3 to this day. Most Holos are smart enough to offer higher tier ranks without any added benefits. It's really not worth the time invested, when the only people willing to pay extra would have done so anyway. Even Shiori has learned that lesson, when she initially used to spoil her Novelknights with exclusive stuff.

>>104706487
>>104706516
Why would you care
Self-checkout is good though, because it's much faster

>>104706575
>Why would you care
because I was bullied since birth up to the age I became able to cause potentially fatal injuries bare handed

>>104706575
Because I'm empathetic?

>>104686771
Neuro?

>>104690222
The funny thing is that this is such a woman moment in its most distilled form. I can practically imagine how she arrived at the decision to do such a thing: she probably thought it a noble and good-hearted thing to try and understand the perspective of her incel interlocutors - probably even patted herself on the back for it. Next day comes, and she just gets the most abrupt epiphany, thinking, "Why the heck am I even condescending to these beta, low-value men? Ick!" Cue the tweet.

There's nothing more that a woman hates than having to acquiesce to men that she thinks are below her while at the same time believing she deserves better, especially in matters related to sensuality which vtubing is, implicitly, adjacent to.

>>104685942 (OP)
Thankfully no one betrayed me although one graduated

>>104704598
Because at the end of the day, there are people here who really do enjoy some of the talents, and a chunk of those people get far too attached. Not to mention that people change over time, so even if it's not full-blown anger, you still have some frustrations to vent about. Add in that if you ever complain about something in their designated thread (if they have one), you get 1-2 fags who take it as an extreme attack on everything about them.
If anything, the girls I cut way back on helped me realize just how much a good chunk of fans simp for women and pretend they don't.

>>104685942 (OP)
She had a boyfriend from the start. Good thing I wasn’t a fan for long.

>>104707464
>people change over time, so even if it's not full-blown anger, you still have some frustrations to vent about. Add in that if you ever complain about something in their designated thread (if they have one), you get 1-2 fags who take it as an extreme attack on everything about them.
i remember getting shit in shiori's thread a while back from one of these people, for pointing out that she's become noticeably mean spirited about certain things, and just being a lot less nice of a person in general. they really do take that shit personally.
i'm a lot happier after being quicker to drop vtubers and move on when they clearly are changing for the worse.

>>104707671
lol, had the same situation in CC’s thread

>>104707308
trvke

Not proud, but first oshi Nyanners.
When Nux wanted to expose the doxxer posing as vshojo applications, you either
>a
Had the most insufferably stupid woman moment ever, thinking exposing a doxxer would inspire more doxxers. I know you've got doxx ptsd and some schizo pissed on your family members grave, but it was already handled by the time you convinced everyone to turn heel all at once
>or b
Knew all along vshojo was a scam company and granted, as such, couldn't offer any protections or guarantees for safety or opsec. Therefore justifying your fearful menhera meltdown, but that still means you scapegoated Nux for no real reason anyway to deflect from vshojo

Either way, since fans were left in the dark, ditching vshojo with that stacy bitch Vei and streaming with bf sealed the coffin

>>104710539
Lil bro oshi'd the 4chan getaway kek

This one still stings, second oshi Fauna
One Skyrim stream and I was hooked. I would drop what I was doing to watch you live.
Fauna standard time kept me afloat during the hardest time of my life. Making you laugh with a comment was like lembas bread for fighting depression instead of hunger. I was so bummed I couldn't see you perform at BD, not for lack of trying.
Your announcement hit like a cargo plane full of trucks hauling bricks. Ive had real relationships end that hurt less. And it felt like you took a chunk of talents with you, and left holoEN in total disarray. So my gaze had to turn away and ahead to avoid dwelling at this disaster like a car crash.
>"Advent's on the horizon now but the message stays the same

First day napling. Ffw to lld. I didn't think I would find myself on the same boat as boyfriend connect with a former Holo-now-indie. So I had to jump ship. This one didn't hurt, just disappointed. Wtf are you doing Nimi, I would have followed you to the end if things had remained how they were before whatever you did in summer '23
This sapling withered and died, this napling dissipated into vapor. Now I am stone, rock hard, and will not bweh

>>104710674
Not sure if you mean gateway or meant to say getaway but I suppose it works in either case
Idk what to tell you man she's the first I found after watching Kizuna AI as a curiosity for a year, that I was happy to realize I actually recognized. Nyanners pipeline led me to lewdcast (proto-vshojo), then Myth, to now
She made me laugh when she wasn't being a stupid bitch

>>104685942 (OP)
The moment Shiori stopped giving kisses and being lovey dovey towards her fans, I knew something was up. It only snowballed from there when she didn't show up at FES to join the rest of Advent for their first FES appearance. Then, she started banning people who didn't like Jurard and critcized the stuff he said about Hololive. I think that was just one betrayal too many, and I couldn't go back to her after that.

>>104707671
To be fair it's hard for people to not be sensitive when you're surrounded by cynical dramanigs who want nothing more than the opportunity to just laugh and say "I told you so", especially since shiori had naysayers from the very start

>>104712054
>especially since shiori had naysayers from the very start
I mean, took a bit of time but she ended up proving them right.

>>104687107
Who would that be?
>>104687713
This sounds like the start of a soap opera

>>104704708
>"not a cope"
>writes NOT for "not mandated" in capital case
>"I can leave at any time"

It sure reads like a cope anon. She slipped on twitter before that she had a meeting with one of her managers and he suggested her to play Jump King. And now she is "not encouraged to do any specific type of content"?
She does such cope outburst once every few weeks, last one was just few days ago when someone one guy'ed her too and she started to rage about how GS is great, everything is always right and they even have an accountant, as if this was some sort of achievement. If anything, how the fuck PL and VR operated without one.

>>104703422
I don't really see much decrease in ASMR quality, but I'm a no brain so maybe there is something to it. Got some examples to compare? I have noticed she does a lot of random blanket white noise here and there, even when its not really appropriate, but its been a thing for a long time now.

>>104702578
This was made by some spergs to rage about Nimi again and also whatever the fuck first ten posts are about and then got derailed into indies.

>>104710992
I know it don't mean much from a fellow anon but she didn't deserve fans like you. I'm glad you had some distance by the time the LLD hit the second tower.

>>104687698
Maybe that's the behind the scenes price she had to pay to keep her IP, these entertainment companies do dark shit.

>>104714338
Don't be ridiculous

she left to get da milk and hasn't come back

>>104714509
Sorry, she's still milking me, my udder (male) is very stubborn.

>>104713905
Damn dude, it means more than you think, you didnt have to say that. So thank you.

>>104690222
Goddamn i forgot just how callous she was during that whole thing

>>104691188
There is a difference between passive immerision and active hunting. Yes, I know I will find out lots of things about shit I never even thought to ask questions about by coming here. The difference is if I see some rrat here and then spend a half hour skimming feeds and articles trying to verify it.

Attending an open forum vs. being a PI.

>>104690906
agreed

>>104715175
Good response.

>>104714566
Luca get off 4chan

>>104689992
It's a red flag. Like when someone goes to college and starts drinking, hanging out with weird people. We all know what happens.

>>104715258
My condolences dude, shit happens.

>>104702578
Fuck you, I've been on this fucking site since '08 and I have ALWAYS spaced my fucking posts because it reads better you incompetent mongoloid nigger.

Having a physical separation of ideas and content allows the HUMAN brain to process things more smoothly and intergrates better. Something you wouldn't understand because you're a NIGGER.

>>104715633
>redditard since 2008

>>104704130
This is a man who hasn't fully accepted that he was a monkey branch. I'm sorry, man. It fucking hurts most the first time, you always remember it.

>>104715633
Lmao at this reddit ass nigger

It was just various small things that added up over time I guess. Weird moments where it felt like she either didn't appreciate her audience or saw them in a condescending light. I just stopped watching after a while, but I think a big turning point was her being two hours late for a stream and, instead of immediately coming to her own stream, she went to her grifting fucking Gen mate's stream (made to leech views from her currently absent genmate) instead. That and the whole debacle with her saying her viewers were pathetic was bad. Everyone was mad about the jab but I didn't actually care, it was that apology that made it go from a fun jab to "wait does she actually feel that way about her audience?"
Granted, I do think a majority of Takodachi are faggots, but if she's looking down on them and I'm technically part of them as a viewer I'd rather just stop being a viewer. Plus I dunno it feels like she became faker after the first two years.

She genuinely couldn't understand that people over 25 could be virgins and thought that the reason people would be curious about a vtubers status was purely a parasocial cherry popping fantasy and not to commiserate over commonalities.

>>104716044
The audience isn't just you, the apology was for those who took it at face value. I'm not sure why the act of apologising for it would make you flip from jab to how she genuinely feels. In polite society it's normal to apologise if there was a misunderstanding. It's not like she said retard and there was a mob on twitter or similar.

>>104685942 (OP)
The regular couple of days breaks became literal weeks of silence, she stopped putting any sort of effort or creativity into streaming and never gave back anything to her fans despite the (huge) support she had then she graduated, things only got worse and ffw to now, the lore drop stuff went down. I had stopped watching her before that but still got played like a damn fiddle.
Going from gosling to hater is a beautiful thing to do instead keeping up with their bullshit, and that doesn't apply only to her.
>picrel

>>104716337
It's just the way she said it and what she said specifically. I'd have to dig it up again to explain exactly why it made me feel the way it did, given it was so long ago, but it broke the illusion for me somewhat. After a while it was getting harder to believe that she was prioritizing her own community over, for instance, networking with the jp side of things.
Again though, the community that rented a billboard and linked their own discord, but still.

>>104716504
Fair enough, not all apologies are created equal, and it's true that the vibes were shifting around that time.

>ctrl+f yuko
>0 results

No longer stream for 12 hours.

>>104685942 (OP)
been a couple of years, it hasn't happened